00:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:19023 (2:31:50)
00:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sheltathalore (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a green dragon, on T:38223 (12:22:17)
01:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scales", on T:24317 (6:43:22)
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02:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Arc Trt Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:23896 (9:50:15)
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02:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a chain mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:25561 (9:50:07)
03:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cubical amulet on an altar, on T:5147 (1:21:18)
03:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5157 (1:22:47)
03:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:5704 (1:30:11)
03:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a spellbook of turn undead given to her by Moloch, on T:6702 (1:40:15)
03:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a mithril shield of light entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:6995 (1:42:07)
03:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a pair of jumping boots entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:7887 (1:57:43)
03:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8302 (2:03:35)
03:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:9172 (2:11:53)
03:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:9282 (2:13:40)
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05:31 <mobileuser> early find of jackboots of warning, cool
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07:20 <K2> wewp
07:25 <Umbire> ab
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08:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Venus, on T:101255 (1 day, 4:33:05)
09:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:6153 (1:06:33)
09:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6773 (1:12:04)
09:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Venus, on T:105549 (1 day, 5:26:36)
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09:58 <Umbire> K2, taking it quest leader buffs came from Spork?
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10:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:10116 (1:49:57)
10:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:10349 (1:53:17)
10:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law), 63496 points, T:21266, poisoned by a locust
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10:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law), 1889 points, T:2855, killed by a large cave lizard
10:59 <Umbire> terrapin, what would be a concise way to express the chance of a hostile quest leader appearing?
11:00 <Umbire> the chance to successfully get the QA is easily expressed as {{frac|(x+1)²}}, but what of the inverse
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11:06 <Umbire> I feel like it's {{frac|(x+1)²-1|(x+1)²}} but I wish I could simplify further than that
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11:15 <terrapin> it's 1/x to have the artifact generated times x/x+1 to get a hostile QA, so x/(x+1)^2 in total
11:17 <Umbire> cool, can adjust
11:18 <terrapin> *hostile QL, but I imagine you figured that out
11:28 <Umbire> ty
11:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha), 1631 points, T:1846, quit
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12:25 <mobileuser> trapped between a trap door on one level and the magically closed stairs to minetown on the next level, annoying
12:26 <mobileuser> means I have to leave my large cat behind for now
12:27 <krm26> ive been trapped in a single square of water (diagonal connections only) as a tortle before, had to wait for a dwarf to generate and dig me out :-)
12:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:110225 (1 day, 7:18:30)
12:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4410 (1:56:41)
12:33 <mobileuser> yeah, it could have been much worse :-)
12:34 <mobileuser> that's the stairs freed now, back to the mines
12:35 <mobileuser> and try to survive the large crowd of zombies there
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12:42 <K2> \o/
12:43 <Umbire> K2, working on quest leader stuff, including variant things
12:44 <K2> https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2642/source
12:47 <Umbire> I forget, you use makemon for quest leader inventory, right?
12:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 1124200 points, T:111360, killed by an Angel of Mercury, while moving through the air
12:47 <K2> sounds right
12:47 <K2> damn krm26 :/
12:48 <krm26> heh, eldritch ki-rin master surrounded and master mind flayered me
12:48 <krm26> i'm just happy i didn't die to brainlessness
12:48 <krm26> and i managed to die after well over 100k turns without ever getting a stethoscope which is awesome
12:49 <mobileuser> damn :-(
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12:50 <mobileuser> it just occurred to me: healing spell hurts zombies?
12:50 <Noisytoot> !lastgame krm26
12:50 <Hecubus> Noisytoot: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1708194690.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1623895588.evil.html
12:50 <K2> no, cure sickness
12:50 <Umbire> very annoying
12:51 <Umbire> K2, did my message sense?
12:51 <krm26> your message much sense many times
12:51 <Noisytoot> TH:4 seems very low
12:51 <Umbire> send*
12:52 <K2> quest ldr stuff? for shizzle
12:52 <Umbire> After that
12:52 <K2> yeah makemon sounds right. i replied
12:52 <Umbire> I was gonna ask if you still used makemon.c for quest leader inventories
12:52 <Umbire> ah
12:53 <Umbire> wasn't sure it even sent, this thing dies so inconveniently
12:53 <Umbire> have to babysit the damn wire so much
13:04 <Umbire> hmm wonder why spork gave Hippocrates flight
13:19 <mobileuser> lol "The large cat picks up an unlocked iron safe containing 9 items"
13:19 <mobileuser> amazing how strong they are
13:22 <Umbire> they have the strong attribute so lol
13:22 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggers_viii]> re: flying hippo, probably so you can’t lead him near the water and kill him from range?
13:22 <Umbire> yeah das smart 
13:22 <Umbire> also speaking of uhhhhh
13:22 <Umbire> K2, where IS the quest leader inventory stuff
13:23 <Umbire> it's not in makemon.c, so assuming .des?
13:23 <Umbire> memory's spotty
13:23 <K2> it depends
13:23 <K2> some quest leaders have their stuff in the .des file for that quest
13:23 <K2> others in makemon.c
13:23 <K2> or a combo
13:24 <Umbire> doubling back through the leaders I did already, carnarvon is .des
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13:27 <Umbire> same with pelias
13:28 <Umbire> probably most of them are in .des minus the priest/monk leaders
13:29 <Umbire> let's see if that bears out, so far it's the case
13:29 <Umbire> also doing vanilla ones first
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14:05 <Umbire> neat, arthur also gets flight in spork
14:05 <Umbire> presumably for similar reasons
14:06 <Noisytoot> why didn't they give him water walking boots instead of giving him intrinsic flight?
14:07 <Noisytoot> or flying boots/amulet if those exist in spork
14:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] sheltathalore (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 214594 points, T:40974, killed by an elven soldier
14:08 <Umbire> because "fuck you" I imagine
14:08 <Umbire> !lastgame
14:08 <Hecubus> Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/sheltathalore/evilhack/dumplog/1708413294.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1706006969.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1707505981.evil.html
14:10 <Umbire> a real answer would be "catch all to avoid moat cheesing and not have him reliant on items which introduces another form of cheesing"
14:11 <Umbire> as an aside, arthur is the first leader covered in makemon because he gets excal
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14:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:10678 (1:59:22)
14:20 <mobileuser> The large cat dies from its illness
14:20 <mobileuser> this is the way
14:20 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> that's kinda messed up actually. if you don't make excalibur for yourself before going in the quest as a lawful, you aren't allowed to make it in the future
14:21 <mobileuser> same in vanilla 3.7 I think?
14:22 <rld> <hackemslashem [@hackemslashem]> haha yea, TIL
14:22 <Umbire> the thing being you almost always have the means to make excalibur pre-quest as a lawful knight + said character wouldn't want to put that off anyway
14:23 <Umbire> I say almost because it's a non-zero chance but the required odds are truly batshit (no main dungeon fountains until quest, no-fountain bones on oracle)
14:23 <Umbire> and in evil I'm p. sure even that isn't possible technically
14:24 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> or just have your only sword rust away
14:24 <Umbire> and somehow never find another long sword ever 
14:24 <Umbire> and never encounter anything that could generate with one
14:24 <Umbire> so like I said, batshit odds
14:24 <Umbire> barring some speedplay shenanigans where you go weaponless for Some Reason
14:26 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> wait a sec, so you can get excalibur even as a chaotic knight if you just ask arthur nicely
14:26 <Umbire> nnnno, you have to kill him for it
14:26 <Umbire> or otherwise wish it
14:27 <Umbire> chaotic knights can't excal dip, they get dirge from same-race sac instead wielding a long sword (or racial equivalent longsword)
14:27 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> yeah that's what i mean by asking nicely
14:27 <Umbire> oh then yeah lol
14:27 <Umbire> YANI: Excalibur and Dirge should each evade the grasp of opposite-alignment Knights
14:29 <rld> <hackemslashem [@hackemslashem]> Hey you can forge long swords in evil, no excuses!
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14:42 <rld> <Shrigis [@shrigis]> reminds me of the time one of the knight player monsters in the knight home spawned as an elf and another as an orc and they fought to the death right there on the spot
14:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 209 points, T:807, killed by a giant mimic
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15:00 <Noisytoot> in variants with object materials/properties there is a good reason to delay dipping for excalibur
15:01 <Loggers_VIII> evil makes it so excal-ing a sword changes it to the default excal material (steel, I think), and removes its properties
15:01 <Umbire> getting all oprop'd/omat long swords in variants where making Excal removes those is yet another set of batshit odds
15:01 <Umbire> and also you could dip an inferior mat sword 
15:02 <Loggers_VIII> I know in grunt you can get excalibur of reflection and stuff
15:02 <Umbire> s/removes those/removes either or both
15:02 <Umbire> Loggers_VIII, what does it do about objmat
15:03 <Loggers_VIII> idk
15:03 <Umbire> also master po inventory is covered in makemon but there's no special enchantment like all the other leaders
15:03 <Umbire> (or if there is I didn't spot it)
15:03 <Umbire> same for arch priest
15:03 <Loggers_VIII> they're strong enough already
15:04 <Umbire> fair
15:06 <Umbire> done with that, now to double back and account for un + dyna 
15:06 <Umbire> 6-9
15:06 <Umbire> btw Loggers_VIII you're free to add strategy section for the ones I've finished so far, {{upcoming}} included
15:07 <Noisytoot> you can get an excalibur of reflection in dnh too with the sflame reflection boon
15:07 <Loggers_VIII> sure
15:07 <Umbire> yeah but you can get all sorts of props on it
15:07 <Loggers_VIII> can do some later this afternoon
15:08 <Umbire> sure sure, whenever you can
15:08 <Umbire> does grunt role-gate Excal dipping or no
15:09 <Loggers_VIII> I kind of wanna say yeah but there's no basis for this belief
15:09 <K2> no
15:09 <K2> sporkhack was the first to do that afaik
15:10 <Loggers_VIII> yeah I was thinking of spork
15:10 <Loggers_VIII> they're kind of interchangeable to me
15:11 <Umbire> lmao don't insult spork like that
15:11 <Umbire> /hj
15:11 <Umbire> does spork preserve objmat/oprops for Excal or no
15:11 <Loggers_VIII> all I know is that they were the go-to 'hard' variants before evil
15:11 <Loggers_VIII> don't wanna play cause 3.4.3 lol
15:15 <Umbire> thankfully un doesn't seem to change leader stats yet
15:16 <Loggers_VIII>  old leader stats are very confusing to me
15:17 <Loggers_VIII> @V?shaman karnov
15:17 <Hecubus> Shaman Karnov (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d4 weapon physical | Align: 20 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis
15:17 <Noisytoot> @?shaman karnov
15:17 <Hecubus> Shaman Karnov (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d10 weapon physical, 2d8 cast clerical | Align: 20 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis
15:17 <Loggers_VIII> 2d4? no wonder you were no match for a couple of hill giants
15:18 <Umbire> that was done with the expectation you wouldn't try to fight yours and FUBAR a game
15:19 <Loggers_VIII> I guess. still weird
15:20 <Umbire> a little, considering grand master/arch priest
15:21 <Loggers_VIII> they were just copypasted high priests so makes sense
15:21 <Umbire> @V?grand master
15:21 <Hecubus> Grand Master (@) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire sleep shock poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d10 claw physical, 2d8 kick physical, 2d8 cast clerical, 2d8 cast clerical | Align: 0 | herbivore, seeinvis, nopoly, infravis
15:22 <Umbire> oh yep, didn't think to double check
15:22 <Loggers_VIII> heh though he has a claw attack instead of a weapon
15:23 <Loggers_VIII> lower AC and speed, too, to be in line with other leaders. so he's not a total copypaste
15:24 <Loggers_VIII> oh huh arch priest is even closer; identical in everything but speed
15:25 <Loggers_VIII> arch priest being slightly weaker than high priests is kind of funny :p
15:37 <mobileuser> smoky healing...
15:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:6477 (3:09:28)
15:44 <mobileuser> but that was a magic lamp
15:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the invisible Aphrodite, on T:11698 (2:39:13)
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15:58 <K2> sporkhack doesnt have object materials or object properties
15:58 <K2> obj mat as in same object can spawn with differnt materials that is
15:59 <K2> grunthack has both though
15:59 <Umbire> o
15:59 <Umbire> right right
15:59 <K2> spork is actually a lot like vanilla, a lot of the changes are more subtle
15:59 <Umbire> also peeking around priest code I think Arch Priest already generates with a mace as part of makemon stuff?
16:00 <K2> maybe? i dont know from memory. best to look in the code
16:00 <Umbire> including a mace per L1349 in EvilHack makemon.c
16:00 <Umbire> but there's also a race-specific mace at L2267 in the same file
16:01 <K2> yeah depnding on its race
16:01 <Umbire> and THEN arch priest has robe/mace specified on .des
16:01 <Umbire> does that mean they all get multiple maces somehow? or is it handled differently
16:01 <K2> the arch priest is a unique monster
16:01 <K2> its not a priest type
16:02 <K2> gotta run, back soonish
16:02 <Umbire>         } else if (ptr->msound == MS_PRIEST
16:02 <Umbire>                    || quest_mon_represents_role(ptr, PM_PRIEST)) {
16:02 <Umbire> ^this doesn't cover him, then?
16:02 <terrapin> it seems it does cover the arch priest, yeah
16:02 <Umbire> yeah it seems like it
16:03 <terrapin> unless that function isn't run for uniques, but there are a whole lot of specific cases for them, so i can't imagine it isn't
16:04 <Umbire> he'll chime in whenever he gets back
16:04 <Umbire> though I may be AFK/off IRC for the usual appointments by then
16:04 <Umbire> 4:30, runs roughly an hour?
16:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming an ice nymph, on T:14168 (3:00:17)
16:06 <Umbire> in any event I'll send what I have currently and adjust as needed after
16:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2187 (0:13:01)
16:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una), 52388 points, T:15147, killed by a leocrotta
16:15 <Umbire> just started a small PR because of a Thing I Noticed
16:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 44 crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:5087 (0:34:00)
16:29 <Umbire> leaving off on Orion for now, bbl
16:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:7112 (3:26:58)
16:55 <mobileuser> weird, can't find the One Ring :-(
17:05 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@loggers_viii]> could be on the far island
17:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed Ixoth, on T:31270 (21:32:17)
17:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31272 (21:32:28)
17:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) became literate by reading Lords and Ladies, on T:5734 (0:41:14)
17:16 <mobileuser> I agree Loggers_VIII, has to be
17:17 <mobileuser> first time for me
17:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha) refused to give up The Magic Mirror of Merlin to King Arthur, on T:31581 (21:45:49)
17:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed King Arthur, on T:31585 (21:46:13)
17:28 <mobileuser> King Arthur :-(
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17:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law), 22463 points, T:12184, killed by a leocrotta
18:05 <Umbire> hm, orion swims so he's less cheeseable than most Spork quest leaders
18:05 <Umbire> does also prevent EotA invoke into lava-filled floor cheese 
18:16 <Umbire> this technically makes spork harder than evil also, snarksnark obnoxious snort
18:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2207 (0:16:01)
18:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:3662 (0:23:04)
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19:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10918 (1:19:37)
19:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:11373 (1:22:36)
19:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a kabuto entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:11932 (1:26:41)
19:37 <Umbire> So if I read the code right, terrapin, wishing for Longbow/Carlbow generates a ranger playermon instead of Orion, yes?
19:43 <K2> no
19:43 <K2> wishing up a quest artifact, the owner if one is generated will be its quest leader
19:44 <K2> i think you're seeing the quest artifacts in that switch case yeah?
19:53 <Umbire> Yeah, and I think I'm misreading PM_<ROLE> as "actually that role" and not "quest leader for that role"
19:53 <Umbire> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/cbe155fe21a9575b03d3a813c19a7a05372fe17d/src/objnam.c#L5051
20:01 <K2> i think the quest artifacts were included there as a failsafe maybe? not sure. wishing up an artifact and getting the owner is years old
20:01 <Umbire> wizmode time, then
20:03 <K2> you'll always get quest leader
20:03 <K2> only exception i can think of would be wishing up both the longbow and crossbow (ranger)
20:03 <Umbire> yeah funny you say that because
20:04 <Umbire> Knoobbrekur the Reconnoiterer says: "Did you think that I would hand over The Crossbow of Carl without a fight?"
20:04 <Umbire> ^after Longbow wish
20:04 <K2> failsafe works, ship it
20:04 <Umbire> keep in mind this is 0.8.2-beta
20:04 <K2> that's fine
20:04 <K2> why arent you testing things on 0.8.3?
20:04 <Umbire> Now something else + Longbow/Carlbow...
20:05 <Umbire> Because at the time 0.8.3 hadn't been released
20:05 <Umbire> I feel like it should affect the outcome of this but I'll probably give it a go if it doesn't eat my saves
20:06 <K2> updating will nuke your local saves
20:06 <K2> diff version
20:07 <K2> hell you might as well pull from master so you're on 0.9.0
20:07 <Umbire> neh
20:08 <Umbire> I kinda can't anyway, nothing to really compile with and also a bit of ask atm
20:09 <K2> foood time
20:11 <Umbire> just made some eggs
20:11 <Umbire> Again, something else + Longbow/Carlbow...
20:11 <Umbire> already have the PYEC in this test game
20:12 <Umbire> somehow didn't roll Ranger/Orion
20:13 <Umbire> And that's also a Ranger player mon
20:13 <Umbire> hm hm
20:15 <Umbire> oh right, I have latest stable actually
20:16 <Umbire> Regular arti followed by Carlbow = still ranger playermon
20:18 <Umbire> QA, rather, actually gonna try a regular artifact next
20:19 <Umbire> and somehow both missed the owner roll
20:19 <Umbire> annoying!
20:24 <Umbire> Longbow missed owner roll, Carlbow after brings Ranger playermon
20:28 <rld> <Umbyre (he/him) [@85602018]> victoly
20:28 <rld> <Umbyre (he/him)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204191497331810338/1210035357513551943/image.png?ex=65e9183e&is=65d6a33e&hm=2bd0b32f21bbad211677a6277ea534b508bf35d9bb2603b92d6d1b07cabcac73&
20:29 <Umbire> and if you have one and wish the other there's a ranger player monster, as intended
20:29 <Umbire> (I presume)
20:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:20838 (2:44:19)
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20:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:21515 (2:55:20)
21:11 <Umbire> K2, so the hobbit ranger QA change is for 0.9.0, right?
21:13 <Umbire> As an aside, testing the above shenanigans caused some crashes with Infidels
21:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:22209 (3:18:25)
21:22 <terrapin> yeah each role has a defined QA, so wishing for the crossbow of carl will not summon orion
21:26 <K2> <Umbire> K2, so the hobbit ranger QA change is for 0.9.0, right? <--- yes
21:29 <K2> <Umbire> As an aside, testing the above shenanigans caused some crashes with Infidels <--- update
21:30 <Umbire> This is on 0.8.3
21:32 <K2> what did you wish for as an infidel that made it crash?
21:34 <Umbire> I think it was Fire Brand into aligned QAs, my brain's scattered atm but I can try to repro tomorrow
21:35 <Umbire> Also gonna make sure I'm not doing this in a way that causes version mismatches without me noticing
21:39 <K2> just an fyi, leaving tomorrow for another mini-me gynastics meet, wont be back online until monday sometime
21:40 <Umbire> Noted
22:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:17246 (3:01:44)
22:51 <terrapin> yay...
22:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:17603 (3:06:35)
23:05 <terrapin> ooh, sting on the far island in gollum's cave, and mithril elven chain mail
23:06 <terrapin> and of course i'm an orc
23:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Fem Una), 792 points, T:989, killed by a piranha
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