00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:21713 (3:59:34) 00:46 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had Dramborleg bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:24371 (4:15:57) 00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +3 gray dragon scales", on T:24665 (4:23:20) 01:06 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:59460 (1 day, 18:18:11) 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Daffy213 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 59 points, T:319, killed by a boulder 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide t-shirt", on T:24723 (4:52:48) 01:25 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic missile", on T:59520 (1 day, 18:27:22) 01:34 That last one just pinged a guy named 27 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:27307 (5:13:08) 02:21 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1915 (2:04:10) 02:23 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:45 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4013 (2:28:46) 02:53 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 02:55 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone crude dagger on an altar, on T:4445 (2:38:38) 03:01 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una), 9083 points, T:4702, killed by a panther 03:54 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:59934 (1 day, 18:59:31) 03:56 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:59965 (1 day, 19:01:26) 03:57 -!- gdiist has joined #evilhack 03:59 if vecna is killed on the lava, there will be no hand or eye left? i just killed him found nothing 04:01 -!- gdiist has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:06 -!- krm26_ has joined #evilhack 04:08 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:08 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:09 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 04:10 hand or eye are fireproof 04:11 freeze all the lava and dig it up 04:12 you could check with object detection (etc) for the right spot 04:14 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:16 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:22 -!- MTF has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:54932 (1 day, 1:15:00) 04:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:59 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 07:23 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:25 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:16153 (3:15:02) 07:51 "The chameleon is caught in the chameleon's explosion!" 07:52 hah, that's not one you see every day 07:53 chameleon in exploder form? 07:55 yeah, the chameleon was an acid sphere 08:01 The werewolf punches the antimatter vortex 08:01 the werewolf was also swallowed an number of times 08:02 do monsters actually suffer damage from antimatter vortexes 08:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:19985 (3:56:09) 08:13 grr 08:28 k2: shopkeepers who can see you (i.e. illithid telepathy) should let you in when you are invisible 08:28 blaspheme 08:29 they cant even tell youre invisible, they can see you 08:29 can you tell that every time i run a giant a magic trap instantly turns me invisible 08:29 the yendorian constitution plainly spells out the law regarding invisibility and places of business 08:31 stupid originalist, the intent of the founding Yendorians was clearly "not perceived", not "not visible" 08:32 i want it on the supreme court docket 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:21600 (4:17:07) 08:34 giant mummy wrapping when 08:34 mummy tiamat drops one i hear 08:35 the trick is getting the mummy to wither her last hit point away, tough with her ac 08:35 ah, the special hax 08:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:44 can an anti-magic trap be destroyed by cancellation, like a magic trap? 08:45 i dont think so 08:45 shame, one is blocking a path for the wraiths to follow me :-) 08:46 but I can still use branchporting 08:46 polymorph the trap? 08:46 ive always thought that should work 08:47 huh maybe it can 08:47 mobileuser's query 08:48 alright, 12 illiterate levels is enough for me i think 08:49 mobileuser it does work 08:49 cancellation and anti magic trap 08:49 \o/ 08:49 thx 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:60821 (1 day, 19:56:24) 08:50 HP growth is pretty nice for giant cavepeople 08:51 sadly i will just die to not having mr 08:52 just get the sceptre of might, problem solved :-P 08:52 (something amateurhour would suggest to me) 08:53 well, i have reflection, so if i can figure out a healing potion than maybe 08:55 dammit, not only no magic lamps down to 12, no lamps, no lanterns 08:56 also no blindfolds or towels 09:19 K2 I see all traps of a magical nature can be cancelled (like in 3.7), including magic beam traps 09:19 nice 09:19 i'm looking at trap placement and the buried chest that holds the magic key in mines end 09:19 mobileuser yeah 09:20 so, if you happen to have a trap form on the same spot as the buried chest, it's ok unless the trap is a spear trap 09:20 all other traps you can make go away, whether its using it up, untrapping it, zappy zap a cancellationw and at it, etc 09:20 spear traps should break when boulders are pushed over them 09:21 they do break if you're thick skinned (or a monster is) 09:21 wearing hardened armor should prob have the same effect 09:21 body armor 09:21 Doesn't it aim for the leg? 09:22 yeah true 09:22 body armor is assumed to cover your legs 09:22 (hence no pants) 09:23 hmm 09:25 hackem just allows untrapping on a spear trap. 09:26 pfft 09:26 i mean, a boulder that blocks a square should be just as hard on a spear as a mammoth 09:26 i can see that 09:28 since it's a physical trap, it does make sense to allow untrapping them 09:28 uh oh. why does level 13 have angels in it 09:28 dammit 09:29 @e?Angel 09:29 Angel (A) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 10 | Res: cold sleep shock poison magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 55 | Gen: dungeons | AC: -4 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical, 1d4 claw physical, 2d6 cast magic missile | Align: 12 | flies, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 09:29 Might be conversion bones, might be regular bones 09:30 Do you mean just A in general or specifically ^those guys 09:30 most likely an altar conversion that went bad 09:30 yeah clearly bones -- just unusual to have no blindness tool by 13 so i cant figure out what horrible thing happened here 09:30 locusts and angels eww 09:30 The A being there kinda narrows it down, yeah 09:31 also coatl and what looks like a few hill giant shaman bugstorms 09:31 hah https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Inventory#Pants 09:31 and naga and *trics, what the heck did this guy do to himself? 09:32 uhghhh and black dragon wtf 09:32 Might've been a nasty summoning that spiraled 09:35 id be a lot more comfortable trying to unpick this knot with a blindfold 09:35 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/splunginator/evilhack/dumplog/1707121068.evil.html 09:35 this one perhaps? 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:39347 (12:49:59) 09:37 how did you do that mobileuser! that is it exactly 09:37 I just looked at recent games 09:38 ooh, grayswandir and dichotomy -- so lucky i am a caveman :-P 09:38 i just wanted an amulet of mr, but nooo 09:39 wonder why he wasnt wearing his free action 09:39 how are you actually going survive that posse 09:39 and why he didnt teleport himself 09:39 ooooh yeah "mr in bag 09:39 ok black dragon i'm gonna boulder you to death 09:40 at least you have reflection vs the breath 09:42 oh splunginator is a specter with a wand of death and his full bag, so i'm gonna die :-P 09:42 -31 ac 09:42 oof yeah 09:43 and cant hit it with boulders (or see it) 09:43 how do you land any hit on that :-( 09:43 yeah level 30 wtf man 09:44 Well, you wanted Splunge bones. 09:44 so i can't go below level 12 09:44 maybe ludios has a blindfold 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful soldier ant, on T:62130 (1 day, 20:59:07) 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful leocrotta, on T:62130 (1 day, 20:59:11) 09:59 i think that about 15 blessed scrolls of fire might kill this thing 09:59 @e?spectre 09:59 spectre ( ) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 9 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -8 | Atk: 1d10 weapon physical | Align: -5 | flies, phases, breathless, unsolid, nopoly, stalker, passes-bars, vegan 09:59 like 250 hp, -30 ac spectre 10:03 do you still have like a 1 in 20 chance of hitting when your to hit chance is negative? i forget 10:04 i wish nethack had a "command" spell so i could make this guy drop his bag 10:05 Magic harp hopium? 10:08 lots of confused taming scrolls could do it 10:09 @e?titan 10:09 titan (H) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -3 | Atk: 2d8 weapon knockback, 0d0 cast spell | Align: 9 | omnivore, flies, infravis 10:09 he's level 30, you'd never get a charm off at level 12 10:09 does that matter for taming scrolls? 10:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1798 (0:40:37) 10:10 doesnt it? i thought all charm/taming was level based. no expert tho 10:11 I think you're right 10:11 thought resist was some combo of mr + lvl 10:11 yeah, at level 30 that's going fail 10:11 plus he's wearing a cloak of mr 10:11 That has no effect on taming, only the score does 10:11 Taming spell and taming scroll call the same block of code 10:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1629 points, T:2075, diseased by a human zombie, while praying 10:12 Chance = MR/(100 + (attack level) - (defense level)) 10:12 Hence me specifying magic harp (and even then as hopium) 10:12 beyond hope 10:13 MR? 10:13 monster MR (50) 10:14 that formula makes no sense, chance gets worse as attack level exceeds defense level? 10:14 i'd have a 50/(100+12-18) chance which is quite good 10:15 oops +12-30 i.e. -18 10:15 i guess the code is sitting right here i might as well look for myself 10:17 defense level is monster level, so 30 10:17 50/82, and that might be the chance for the monster to resist 10:17 He corrected in the next line 10:17 ah ok 10:18 rn2(82) < 50 10:18 that formula is a bad bad formula 10:19 should be 100 - dlev + alev 10:19 want chance to decrease as defender level increases 10:19 oh man i must still be asleep, reading the whole thing wrong, sorry. RESIST chance :-) 10:20 so i would have a 39% of overcoming resistance 10:21 I guessed as much honestly 10:21 soooooo only 5 scrolls of taming required to have at least a 90% chance of succeeding 10:21 that isn't the end of the world 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Lolth, on T:62934 (1 day, 21:31:13) 10:25 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:25 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0040220592e2...087f562f34da 10:25 [EvilHack] k21971 087f562 - Fix: allow spear traps to be disarmed. 10:26 thanks @shrigis for encountering the scenario described in the commit 10:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 691 points, T:695, killed by a dwarf zombie 10:40 and then of course the centaur with cancellation in a ludios cage 10:43 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/087f562f34da...72d226d2e33f 10:43 [EvilHack] k21971 72d226d - Fix: heap-use-after-free (bones). 10:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 832 points, T:1080, killed by an Uruk-hai 10:46 -!- gdiist has joined #evilhack 11:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:63555 (1 day, 22:06:33) 11:19 i think i'm gonna spend the next 100k turns hanging around in the upper dungeon 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had a mithril spear entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:30060 (7:05:17) 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:32104 (6:06:26) 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:64536 (1 day, 22:48:25) 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:64542 (1 day, 22:48:44) 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:33721 (6:25:44) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:32510 (7:31:38) 11:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:59636 (17:38:57) 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:59639 (17:39:24) 12:00 weird, keep getting sessions terminated 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:59688 (17:43:41) 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the dark elven high priestess of Moloch, on T:59834 (17:55:21) 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:59895 (18:00:41) 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Lolth, on T:60098 (18:14:58) 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, on T:65463 (1 day, 23:41:45) 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:60110 (18:18:11) 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:60113 (18:18:44) 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:60125 (18:20:25) 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 324 points, T:771, zombified by a gnome zombie, while helpless 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:4 (0:01:38) 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:146 (0:02:00) 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 98 points, T:291, killed by strangulation, while praying 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Saint Michael, on T:60279 (18:34:37) 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:65844 (2 days, 0:02:51) 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:35359 (7:38:18) 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had a mithril dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:36169 (8:46:06) 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:36556 (8:49:23) 13:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:60870 (18:54:41) 13:15 !asc Shrigis 13:15 K2: [hdf-us] Shrigis has ascended 2 times in 84 games (2.38%): evil:2 (2.38%) 13:15 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:15 not a bad ratio 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:60900 (18:58:34) 13:19 why is there a mimic on the plane of air 13:21 they are clingers 13:21 perfectly fine for a mimic to spawn in a place like that 13:21 does that mean cave lizards can show up there too? 13:21 they could yeah 13:21 wumpus 13:21 honestly, the plain of air should not have a "ceiling" to cling to 13:21 !asc mobileuser 13:21 krm26: [hdf-us] mobileuser has ascended 5 times in 7 games (71.43%): evil:5 (71.43%) :: [hdf-eu] mobileuser has ascended 61 times in 127 games (48.03%): evil:61 (48.03%) 13:21 krm26 yeah 13:22 did the devteam address that for 3.7? 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:61007 (19:03:21) 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:61010 (19:03:43) 13:24 the clinger thing seems like a major pain to address 13:24 man it really tried to do me dirty twice in a row > All mind flayer larvae are already nonexistent. All sharks are already nonexistent. Wiped out all giant eels. Wiped out all electric eels. 13:24 so, k2, axes arent considered edged weapons for cavemen? 13:24 krm26 they should be 13:24 considering stuff the quest levels that are supposed to be outside but also have buildings with (presumably) ceilings 13:24 *stuff like 13:25 well, i just got cleaver as a sacrifice gift, and my axe skill goes up to Skilled 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) genocided krakens, on T:61013 (19:05:45) 13:25 krm26 yeah, you already have axe skill 13:26 3.7 does address ceilings - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/2855f7176494635aa28bf20f9b51eb4da834c74f 13:26 guess i misunderstood the caveman changes in the evilhack wiki page 13:26 krm26 - cavepersons cant unlock an edged weapon skill for a skill they dont have 13:26 if they already have the skill, great 13:27 ok 13:27 ooh, i can make tempest, never forged it 13:28 -- so does that mean a caveman wont get frost brand, etc as sacrifice gifts? 13:29 good question 13:29 Is that ceiling thing for the whole level? What I mean is there are areas where clingers would realistically be able to cling to, and also areas where they wouldn’t be, on the same level 13:29 i am not sure off the top of my head 13:29 loggers i would think it applies to entire level 13:29 YASI: as the opposite of priests, infidels are only allowed to use edged weapons 13:29 heh 13:30 do infidels get a knife/dagger bonus? I feel like they should 13:30 yo exiting water on the plane of water looks really wierd for some reason 13:30 I think it does that in vanilla too shrigis 13:30 forget why 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Ishtar, on T:36905 (9:10:42) 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:61134 (19:15:17) 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:61136 (19:15:42) 13:36 krm26 you can get those as sac gifts 13:36 they just don't unlock the skill 13:36 seems weird 13:36 poor cavemen 13:36 that’s weird 13:37 otherwise you could zoom in on the desired gifts much too easily 13:37 I mean priests can already do that 13:37 ooh shrigis already there? 13:38 congrats! 13:38 yeah but priests are forbidden to use edged weapons 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 7243092 points, T:61157, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Shrigis/evilhack/dumplog/1706983497.evil.html 13:39 \o/ 13:39 Not like caveman using edged is much more viable with no skill :p 13:39 Grats shrigis! 13:39 congrats! 13:40 lucy and mike were really scuffed this run, i probably i approached them wrong 13:40 spellcasting is a lot of fun, i love poison blast now 13:41 how did you get sickness res? 13:41 hand of vecna 13:42 ah 13:43 @shrigis did you ever learn acid blast? 13:43 yeah 13:43 :) 13:44 it worked really well on orcus 13:44 it works well on basically EVERYTHING 13:44 except... 13:44 almost everything 13:45 does it actually do more damage than fireball or snowgrave cone of cold 13:45 oh yeah 13:45 never learned cone of cold to compare and everyone is immune to fire 13:46 its the closest thing to a thermonuclear warhead in a wizards arsenal 13:46 cone of cold often works well against fire resistant monsters. extra damage bonus. 13:46 cone of cold at high level is great vs rodney 13:46 fireball is great on astral 13:47 i'm more of a chemical warfare kinda guy, 1 cast of poison blast is enough to kill a dragon 13:47 yeah that spell is underrated 13:47 good to see it get some serious use 13:47 my current wizard just learned it :-) 13:47 i could use some acid blast right now, alas 13:47 \o/ 13:48 revising my time estimate, now think it will take me 200k turns to get my 5 scrolls of taming 13:48 what do you need 5 for? 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) became Ishtar's Envoy of Balance, on T:38568 (9:28:20) 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:66734 (2 days, 0:54:29) 13:50 im assuming the first person to make ithilmar had their steed instantly petrified or disintegrated 13:50 hmm no 13:50 they ascended thie rpet with it i think 13:51 shrigis there is a bones level in his game with a level 30 spectre, plan is to tame it 13:52 -!- gdiist has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:52 but with 50 MR, level 30 it will probably take multiple tries 13:53 yeah splunge is really toasting my buns this game 13:54 have u tried the spell 13:56 oh i see its a caveman 13:56 Asking about the spectre game? level 12 caveman in the upper dungeon with the level 30, -30ac ascension-equipped spectre with grayswandir and wands of death blocking my way to the quest 13:59 do you have the name? i want to see how it died 14:00 splunginator 14:00 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/splunginator/evilhack/dumplog/1707121068.evil.html 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:66885 (2 days, 1:05:28) 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:66888 (2 days, 1:05:52) 14:03 yikes got paralyzed by a hill giant shaman. have you dealt with all the other monsters on that level? 14:03 yup 14:04 bouldered the black dragon to death 14:04 didnt have a method of blindness so i was surprised to go to the bones and get jumped by a spectre with a wand of death 14:05 my current options are (1) dig past or (2) dig past 14:06 so ive wasted 20k turns altar farming while trying to find a way to complete cage ludios (no lev, no cold, no flight, no jumping, no knock, no opening, no poly, no etc.) 14:07 i think you can get a shield of reflection as a sacrifice gift and bless your boulders so they work on the specter 14:07 kinda a long shot with the 1st part 14:07 will blessed boulders work? 14:07 i have reflection or i'd already be dead 14:08 i think they should 14:08 you know, i thought about that and discarded it as dumb... 14:08 20 boulders vs 250 health, wonder if it would do the trick 14:08 you just reuse the boulders 14:09 or look for more 14:10 not sure a boulder will ever hit, giving it a shot 14:10 31 ac 14:10 -31 actually 14:10 boulder or not, that is very hard to hit 14:11 hits me for about 10 damage per boulder, which does about 0 damage to him (so far :-)... 14:11 gonna have to move him to another level i think 14:11 you still need to actually hit, which is very difficult on a -31 ac target 14:12 now he's decided to use his wands of cancellation on me 14:12 so much for my blessed boulders 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed mightyquinn the human zombie, and former Field Worker, on T:5923 (0:42:59) 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:40435 (9:02:36) 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40436 (9:02:39) 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) completed his quest without incident, on T:40705 (9:03:40) 14:27 monsters zapping wands of cancellation might be the most rage inducing thing in any game ever 14:28 too evil :( 14:29 i'm tapped out magically, had a centaur in a ludios cage with one, then this spectre -- been zapped like 10 times 14:29 wands of polymorph are pretty bad too... 14:30 my least favorite is actually watching a monster blow an entire wand of death on me so that when i finally get it, it has no charges :-) 14:30 i prefer death 14:32 he has poly wands in his bag too 14:35 he has the world in his bags 14:35 thought boulders might have an increased chance of hitting being so big..but since not, back to the wait 200k turns for taming strategy 14:36 he's cutting me off from the upper dungeon now, just need to get to the quest's magic chest and keep on trucking 14:37 monsters with wands of polymorph be like: 1st zap - turn into a snake and automatically drop all your gear 2nd zap - your gear is now an orcish dagger and a pair of walking shoes 14:37 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a shield of mobility entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:7899 (1:02:47) 14:38 @e? shield of mobility 14:38 No such monster. 14:39 a shield that gives free action wow 14:40 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:8773 (1:09:37) 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 413097 points, T:40348, killed by a woolly mammoth 14:49 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 7624 points, T:9332, killed by a quasit 14:50