02:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:04 -!- gdiist has joined #evilhack 03:12 Is fort ludio portal guaranteed in a vault on a level below 10? i found a vault that has no portal at level 25(medusa level is 27), then i travel upward to level 10 and downward back to 24, still hear no footsteps of a guard. 03:22 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3405 (0:49:16) 03:26 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:3500 (0:52:30) 03:33 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4182 (0:59:47) 03:54 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:20 -!- gdiist has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:21 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una), 405 points, T:981, killed by a gnome lord 05:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:19 -!- mobileuser11 has joined #evilhack 06:22 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:24 -!- mobileuser11 is now known as moileuserb 06:24 -!- moileuserb is now known as mobileuser 06:34 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1351 points, T:2217, killed by a gnome lady, while fainted from lack of food 06:51 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:4399 (0:27:43) 07:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:4757 (0:36:46) 07:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:5460 (0:40:57) 07:17 -!- gdiist has joined #evilhack 07:22 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:26 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:57 gdiist have you found Ludios yet? 08:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 28315 points, T:11500, killed by an invisible agent of Manannan Mac Lir 08:15 not yet,not found the portal. 08:18 from the way you described it, it should exist 08:18 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:18 i saw the wiki said 'In EvilHack, the portal to Fort Ludios is also placed in the first available vault below level 10, similar to UnNetHack.' . i am not sure whether it is true for the current version. 08:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:22 should still be true for the current version 08:22 i just defeated the ice queen, i will give another travel upwards and downwards to check the message. 08:23 sometimes you need to spend a really long time on a level to get the message... 08:23 if you're lucky, you can sometimes see a monster with ESP or warning in an unexpected place 08:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:37026 (11:09:48) 08:24 i spent about 100 turn in one level, is that enough? 08:24 sometimes it isn't, but I'm not sure what the chances are, just from experience 08:30 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 08:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:126322 (1 day, 8:53:18) 08:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:126323 (1 day, 8:53:22) 08:33 good luck elron! 08:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:22712 (8:52:40) 08:33 Thanks! Gonna get this drow convict monkey off my back :) 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:37107 (11:17:50) 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:126406 (1 day, 8:57:31) 08:44 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the orcish high priestess of Moloch, on T:126673 (1 day, 9:05:53) 08:44 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:126681 (1 day, 9:06:27) 08:57 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:126835 (1 day, 9:19:07) 08:57 \o/ 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:126877 (1 day, 9:21:15) 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Saint Michael, on T:127112 (1 day, 9:30:34) 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) genocided newts, on T:127420 (1 day, 9:38:41) 09:26 why newts 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:127945 (1 day, 9:48:55) 09:33 wanted to genocide magical eyes (found I couldn't) - newts for style points 09:33 heh 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:128121 (1 day, 10:00:26) 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the White Horse, on T:128123 (1 day, 10:00:35) 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:128213 (1 day, 10:03:07) 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:128214 (1 day, 10:03:09) 09:42 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:42 woohoo 09:42 finally! 09:42 HOME 09:42 congrats elron the drow convict! 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 8844475 points, T:128230, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/evilhack/dumplog/1706372642.evil.html 09:43 \o/ 09:46 congrats elron! 10:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24940 (9:50:59) 10:09 -!- gdiist has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:43 awesome job elron! 10:44 thx -- after many self inflicted failures, nice to finally get it done 10:56 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Sam Dwa Mal Law), 5438 points, T:4629, killed by an orc-captain 10:59 you need to cleanse your palate with a tortle barbarian 11:12 a bit much after a heavy meal. I'll try a nice light Centaurian valk 11:16 what this game really needs is more people killing wizards before sokoban 11:20 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:20 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:7494 (0:54:04) 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 67724 points, T:34897, drowned in a moat 11:25 jtfc 11:25 so much trouble for a fancy key 11:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1484 (0:25:13) 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1782 (0:09:19) 11:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1862 (0:27:37) 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Gia Mal Una) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2261 (0:11:45) 11:30 !lastgame bouquet 11:30 krm26: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1706835860.evil.html 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:9360 (1:01:37) 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a short sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:9380 (1:02:04) 11:31 i see the problem bouquet -- you need to name your bag after a Faulkner character, not a Salinger character 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:10098 (1:06:09) 11:36 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 11:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4885 points, T:4698, killed by a warg 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:10213 (1:11:26) 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a leather cloak of protection entrusted to her by Odin, on T:10226 (1:11:40) 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:10674 (1:17:10) 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Gia Mal Una) rejected atheism by offering an orc shaman corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:4112 (0:35:41) 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gray dragons), on T:59005 (1 day, 13:40:09) 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Gia Mal Una) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Moloch, on T:4516 (0:42:01) 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Gia Mal Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4704 (0:43:09) 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) had an axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:11017 (1:33:05) 12:03 giant infidels shouldnt shrink into their demon form -- should still not be able to wear armor or cloaks 12:07 -!- dingotron25 has joined #evilhack 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible bouquet's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:12154 (1:38:38) 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:43994 (1 day, 2:31:53) 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4726 (1:04:26) 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:4988 (1:11:34) 12:27 ah gdiist found Ludios after all 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Gia Mal Una), 16048 points, T:6788, killed by a plains centaur 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 2183 points, T:4698, killed by a dwarf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:5182 (1:14:35) 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:6101 (0:52:18) 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:8372 (1:04:42) 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Tou Hob Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible splunginator's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:9056 (1:10:57) 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed spear on an altar, on T:4793 (0:24:30) 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Mon Hum Fem Law), 4532 points, T:2827, killed by a leocrotta 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 2086 points, T:5265, killed by a bone devil 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 stone gauntlets of power", on T:59236 (1 day, 14:44:34) 13:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:59249 (1 day, 14:46:45) 13:07 beat him to death with your stone gauntlets! 13:10 -!- gdiist has joined #evilhack 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1075 (0:06:33) 13:15 @km26 ha, well I was narrating this brutal fight over on the #hardfought channel by mistake. It sucked. I tried to level port past orcus (I thought I could do that because he wasn't awake yet). but of course, no, this is evilhack, and he appeared right next to me, my 1 potion on paralysis missed and next thing I know I've lost ~200 of my max 13:15 hitpoints, withering, and I have to still have get close to the upstairs to be able to fight him. 13:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1433 (0:11:06) 13:16 last resort was wishing up GoP so that I could throw mjolnir after having run through all other available ammunition 13:16 also PSA, tossing Mjolnir after you convert to chaotic is... suboptimal 13:16 heh 13:16 glad you pulled it off! 13:17 Ya, now I gotta go find a LOT of nurses to dance with or something 13:18 and burned my last wish on the GoP so no magic marker to help with genocide scrolls. gonna take a break and think about the plan. 124HP is not the max HP as a giant that I wanted to be doing the ascension run with. 13:19 no 13:19 you need potion alchemy to save you 13:23 dingotron25 I hope you didn't blind yourself while throwing Mjolnir? 13:25 (I would expect the worst thing to happen is getting hit twice by artifact blast, not failing to catch it every time) 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had a mithril dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:3962 (0:22:33) 13:27 The blast wasn't hurting me. It was losing turns to pick up and re-wield. As well as forgetting to stash all my wands first... 13:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:26620 (10:23:15) 13:28 I still had a chance at least to wrest one last wish... but I vaporized the wand of wishing 13:28 -!- gdiist has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1485 (0:15:29) 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gnomish wizards), on T:1507 (0:15:58) 13:31 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:36 Maybe best plan is to level drain myself then restore levels to get more HP back. I have 25 constitution. I have not tried that trick before. what's a safe way to drain a bunch of levels? (I have no stormy, but I also have not done vlad's tower yet). May stand around a bunch of vampires or wraiths and let them hit me? or go after vlad and get 13:36 lifestealer? 13:39 mobileuser dwarf wizard seems like a bold choice? 13:40 well I wanted to play a wizard, why would dwarf be bold? 13:41 (I'm still surprised you couldn't catch Mjolnir, I had no such problems with cross-aligned Hammer of the Gods) 13:42 just cause dwarf is capped on wiz/int ? 13:44 ok. I get it now. I had a blindfold on. that's why I kept dropping mjolnir 13:44 heh 13:44 (face palm) 13:44 best way to drain yourself is to cast drain on yourself 13:44 oh thank you! 13:45 very predictable and controllable, only a level 2 spell so anyone can cast it fine at a decent level 13:45 ah, blindfold ;-) 13:45 i frequently want to be able to specialize in catching aklyses while blind 13:46 Yeah there is a cap, but with a helm of bril it won't be so bad. And the staff of the archmagi will help a lot. 13:47 It's been years since I last played a char with Mjolnir, and so I just assumed it was because I was cross-aligned, and didn't think that through better in the heat of battle 13:47 I've already done giant wizard, even those cast fine in the end 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a banded mail entrusted to her by Odin, on T:13739 (2:12:42) 13:49 too bad wizards can't dual wield, giant wizard with sota and soa would be fun 13:49 -!- dingotron25 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:54 !tell dingotron25 If you wanna use Mjollnir efficiently from behind a boulder fort, invest in blessed monster detection. 13:54 Will do, Umbire! 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had a mace entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:8111 (0:54:55) 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Tou Hob Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16647 (2:40:52) 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 4360 points, T:9153, killed by a hill orc 14:24 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:16915 (2:44:03) 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had a chain mail entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:18304 (2:48:04) 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:18292 (2:51:39) 14:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:39 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:40 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:19885 (3:12:11) 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14412 (3:41:25) 14:58 huh, never seen a soldier read a scroll of uncurse before 14:59 Most intelligent monsters'll do that if they have a cursed item and can pick up the scroll 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 32653 points, T:14893, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 14:59 disappointing 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had a leather studded armor entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:20860 (3:19:24) 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had a pair of cloth levitation boots entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:20894 (3:20:15) 15:01 !tell dingotron level draining will provide only a one-time bonus if you got to your current level with low Con and drain&restore with high Con. As a giant valk, probably benefits will be minor (anything above 18 is the same for HP-per-level purposes) 15:01 Will do, terrapin! 15:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:31013 (11:14:19) 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:20269 (3:26:18) 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20341 (3:28:29) 15:06 dwarf wizard is no worse for int/wis caps than orc wizard 15:07 -!- sludge__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3392 (0:22:36) 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:11513 (2:10:14) 15:15 terrapin his max hp was severely lowered by Orcus, won't this draining plan fix that 15:17 oof krm26 :-( 15:19 hmm.... i don't think so? not totally certain, but i think the amount subtracted/added per level drained/restored depends on Con then/now respectively, and the final total is irrelevant 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4822 (0:34:04) 15:26 -!- sludge_ has joined #evilhack 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:24945 (3:56:22) 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 50750 points, T:25673, killed by a chameleon imitating an elder minotaur 15:35 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:35 congrats on your ascension elron! 15:36 thx! 15:36 gg 15:36 ab Loggers_VIII 15:37 ab 15:38 terrapin, sounds strange to me, say he had 300 as his max hp and orcus took it to 150. why won't draining levels and then restoring get him back to 300. 15:39 I have no experience with that draining strat, but that's what I would expect 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:25014 (4:02:42) 15:40 Elron you are cen… 15:40 .... and I just remembered that 15:40 i think they way it works is: say for simplicity he got 3 HP per level up to 30, and will get 4 per level if gaining a level with current Con. Draining to XL1 takes him to 150-29*3 HP, then restoring takes adds 29*4 HP to get to 179 total 15:40 :( 15:40 but, if the process is repeated, 29*4 is lost and then gained for no net result 15:40 ah ok 15:41 and what about selfpoly to giant? (reroll stats) 15:41 now that i have no idea about 15:41 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42 I mean, his "natural" max HP is much higher than his current max HP 15:42 I have done that often after getting crowned as infidel 15:42 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:42 because demon has much higher HP growth 15:43 wiki says: 15:43 First, all HP and energy gained by leveling is removed. (The game stores these values whenever you level.) 15:43 Then, the remainder is randomly multiplied by one of (80%, 90%, 100%, 110%), separately rolled for HP and energy. 15:43 The result is set equal to the new level if it ends up lower. 15:43 Then your HP and energy are increased as if you'd leveled to your new level from 1, taking in account your current constitution and wisdom bonuses. 15:43 Finally, your current HP and energy are adjusted proportionally to the change of maximum HP and energy. 15:44 a very straightforward process, as nethack mechanics so often are 15:44 lol 15:45 haha! 15:45 let's just say as Infidel demon I have always been a happy customer :-) 15:45 I guess you would know better than anyone else, as the sole infidel enjoyer :) 15:46 heh 15:47 Sole, he says. 15:47 I'm glad I see plenty of people trying Infidel 15:47 emphasis on "trying" 15:47 Oh yeah, Loggers_VIII there's more stuff on the YANI page if you wanna peek at it. 15:47 lacca is also an avid infidel player, though idle if they’ve ascended 15:48 sre 15:48 sure 15:48 I'm gonna be focusing on wiki gnolls again 15:48 s/idle/idk 15:48 7 people so far (infidel ascs) 15:51 impressive 15:51 The indomitable human spirit prevails 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible mightyquinn's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:26382 (4:15:24) 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 540109 points, T:38122, killed by a torrent of acid 15:53 my spirit’s rather domitable. I will probably not ascend inf any time soon :P 15:54 I'm surprised demon infidels aren't drain resistant 15:54 or does self-draining bypass that like self-zapping death rays bypasses MR? 15:54 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:55 hence mobileuser's self-poly strategy 15:58 yeah, no self-draining for demons 15:59 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 376 points, T:809, killed by a kobold 16:02 can you self-drain while polyselfed? 16:04 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest6677 16:04 -!- Guest6677 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 16:04 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:09 -!- dingotron63 has joined #evilhack 16:09 YANI- an artifact magic whistle that can find/retrieve your pet across levels 16:11 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:11 SMOP right there. but it would be cool 16:12 Noisytoot no, but polymorphing into your own race is almost equivalent to draining & regaining your levels 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:10415 (1:17:38) 16:17 fiqhack has a scroll that does that 16:18 https://github.com/FredrIQ/fiqhack/commit/876dcdcfeab30714a4f17392188fa90165ac5645 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 787 points, T:1250, killed by a mountain dwarf 16:27 oh neat! 16:29 oh hmm self poly is an idea 16:31 oh huh looks like it doesn't check for negative maxhp in the middle of the polyselfing. so if your HP is low, the base value that gets multiplied by 80-110% (average 95%) will be negative, meaning it will be a minor net gain 16:32 I think I might try that 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:19065 (3:27:47) 16:33 It'd be nice if you could stick to a number. 16:33 But anyway. 16:33 In the future, if you wanna use Mjollnir efficiently from behind a boulder fort, invest in blessed monster detection. 16:34 YAN(S?)I: weapons of telepathy can be sensed by telepathy and you can throw and catch them when blind 16:34 -!- dingotron63 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:35 Umbire usually having warning is enough 16:35 aim at the 5 16:35 That too. 16:35 Loggers_VIII, it's silly mostly in the context that it'd apply for exactly aklyses. 16:35 and you get it free for the price of murder 16:35 ...and boomerangs. 16:35 Just wear a ring like a normal person, ya geek. 16:35 :B 16:35 do weapons of telepathy do extra damage vs telepathic? 16:36 no 16:36 mannn nethack should have octopodes 16:36 SMOP 16:36 8 rings :) 16:36 lots of things assume there are only two ring slots 16:37 yeah 16:38 nethack should steal more stuff from dcss. some neat things over in the other dungeon 16:38 well, not steal. nothing in dcss I can think of would be optimal to add to nethack totally unchanged 16:39 dnethack has mutations in devel, but they are different from dcss (only applied voluntarily rather than via a monster spell) 16:40 quaffing mutation pots fuels my gambling-addicted roguelike mind, it's great 16:42 fiqhack has potions of wonder which give random intrinsics (including ones that cannot be otherwise gained like MR and phasing) 16:43 that item I have examined in the past and it seems fun 16:44 I usually save mutation potions for getting rid of bad mutations from malmutate 16:45 I haven't gotten far enough to see many enemies with malmutate yet 16:46 I got to the orb of zot once and then got killed by an orb of fire 16:46 rip 16:46 -!- Elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:48 orb of reverse zot 16:48 orb of zot you 16:49 apparently orbs of fire are assholes. not too excited to encounter one 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2478 (0:24:25) 17:14 random sting and magicbane on one level! 17:18 HAX 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:29297 (5:02:18) 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29298 (5:02:23) 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Arc Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a woolly mammoth, on T:6311 (1:18:50) 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6605 (1:20:55) 17:46 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:49 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:29689 (5:13:21) 17:54 krm26: LOL! I think you're the second person to recognize the name. 17:58 -!- dingotron49 has joined #evilhack 18:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1760 (0:16:01) 18:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:60054 (1 day, 16:11:09) 18:19 get wrecked Demogorgon! 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2166 (0:19:17) 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) wished for "fixed magic marker", on T:60074 (1 day, 16:14:08) 18:22 YES throne wish. so rare. we're back in this game baby. 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Loki, on T:60459 (1 day, 16:46:03) 18:54 Ha Sting on turn 60k 18:59 -!- dingotron49 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone crude dagger on an altar, on T:7066 (1:02:10) 19:07 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 22257 points, T:17631, killed by a death ray 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a copper two-handed sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:8892 (1:22:27) 19:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 3350 points, T:3962, killed by an elven arrow 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Pri Dwa Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Athena, on T:2935 (0:16:20) 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:18029 (2:14:49) 20:47 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Pri Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:10414 (0:56:28) 21:12 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Pri Dwa Mal Law), 10868 points, T:13217, killed by a killer bee 21:15 -!- gdiist has joined #evilhack 21:28 -!- dingotron98 has joined #evilhack 21:29 @?e vecna 21:29 No such monster. 21:30 @e?vecna 21:30 Vecna (L) | Lvl: 99 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 8d6 touch cold, 6d6 touch wither, 3d4 gaze Death, 4d6 cast spell, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous 21:33 @e?black dragon 21:33 black dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: disintegrate | Confer: disintegrate | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 12d6 breath disintegrate, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest, 0d0 passive disintegrate | Align: -6 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 21:41 i just found the portal to fort ludio , lost my +7 lance. the wiki said the passive attack "can be avoided by use of ranged weapons, pounding with a polearm or lance " so i use the lance to range attack the black dragon, after hit several times it disintegrate, so what is the chance of to triggering passive attack? 21:47 Unsure, but pounding does count as contact so the weapon can be lost. 21:47 Wands or disposable projectiles are a better bet. 21:49 in general, any passive attack that affects weapons (disintegration, rust, acid) will affect any weapon that hits it, regardless of whether that weapon was thrown, swung, or pounded 21:49 pounding does protect *you* from any adverse effects (getting damaged by acid, frozen by cold, etc.) 21:50 ths~ 22:01 -!- gdiist has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23 -!- dingotron98 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Annam, on T:24030 (6:30:40) 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24034 (6:30:51) 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Falconpunch (Inf Orc Fem Una), 570 points, T:1090, killed by a giant mosquito 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Val Cen Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:30296 (5:42:26) 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed his quest without incident, on T:24446 (6:35:23) 23:24 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Arc Dwa Mal Law) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:8275 (1:12:45) 23:54 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 12634 points, T:13510, killed by a giant mimic