00:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 1183 points, T:1770, killed by a bugbear
00:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1630 (0:10:25)
00:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1643 (0:09:39)
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00:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) stole 267 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Aklavik's general store, on T:4134 (0:36:21)
00:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 4246 points, T:4137, killed by a panther
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02:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una), 5255 points, T:2963, killed by a giant watchman
02:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1471 (0:07:57)
02:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una), 5330 points, T:3431, killed by a gnome lord
02:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gia Mal Law) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:68044 (1 day, 8:08:04)
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03:58 <Umbire> ab
04:00 <Umbire> mobileuser, made it to xnh Gehennom. it's no Evil so far but I do like the layout of the Cerberus floor
04:00 <mobileuser> ab!
04:01 <mobileuser> good luck in xnh Gehennom
04:01 <mobileuser> meanwhile, I made the Hammer. Goodbye Dagul!
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04:14 <Umbire> gl to you as well mobileuser!
04:15 <Umbire> I was kinda wondering if you had any advice re: xnh Gehennom 
04:20 <mobileuser> I've never been there
04:21 <mobileuser> when K2 is around, maybe he can give some tips...
04:25 <Umbire> I thought you'd ascended xnh
04:25 <Umbire> was probably pre-Gehennom revamp
04:30 <mobileuser> yeah, last one was 2022, version 7.1
04:31 <mobileuser> ascended all roles :-)
04:32 <mobileuser> should have said "never been in the revamp one"
04:42 <Umbire> makes sense
05:38 <mobileuser> K2 I see that demons were made immune to Angelslayer fire damage (makes sense). I think a nice touch would be to double the bonus damage against angels. Non-fire resistant angels would be hit for 1d20, fire resistant angels would be hit for 1d10 (halved for fire res, doubled again for being an angel).
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06:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gia Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:70170 (1 day, 9:45:13)
08:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gia Mal Law) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:70589 (1 day, 10:16:16)
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08:30 <K2> xnh gehennom now is... awful for the unprepared
08:30 <K2> make sure you have a cursed potion of gain level with you
08:31 <K2> oh wait
08:31 <K2> i'm thinking of the wiz tower i think
08:31 <K2> gehennom is alright
08:32 <K2> a couple of the demon bosses can really mess you up though
08:35 <Umbire> Yeah, like I've said I have heard Things about Geryon and Dispater in particular
08:35 <Umbire> Also Yeen, though I'm obligate weaponless monk so
08:38 <krm26> hmm -- where is hidden dungeon in the good (lava :-) castle?
08:45 <krm26> my drain is bamaged, forgot it is in the valley
08:45 <mobileuser> heh
08:46 <krm26> it only takes about two days of not playing to not only totally forget what i was doing with my current run but even the basic mechanics of the game
08:47 <mobileuser> don't blow up your BoH!
08:47 <mobileuser> (I already did)
08:48 <krm26> ouch!
08:48 <krm26> i dont think im due for another 2 games but i just might have cursed myself
08:49 <krm26> hmm - riding skill is cheaper to advance than weapons? i have a basic/skilled MAX riding i can advance, and a basic/skilled MAX broadsword i cant
08:50 <Umbire> I think it takes fewer skill points, yeah
08:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:98815 (1 day, 8:58:35)
08:56 <krm26> ok, the most exciting part of any game -- gonna find out what shamblers are
09:01 <mobileuser> I just killed mine in the hidden dungeon, fortunately the worst is withering
09:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Tal'Gath, on T:99035 (1 day, 9:05:13)
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09:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gia Mal Law) killed Tal'Gath, on T:70799 (1 day, 10:26:09)
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09:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gia Mal Law) genocided beholders, on T:70800 (1 day, 10:27:03)
09:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:99403 (1 day, 9:15:07)
09:12 <krm26> ive had 3 non-frightening shamblers in a row now, i feel guilty
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09:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (beholders), on T:99542 (1 day, 9:20:13)
09:20 <K2> :)
09:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gia Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:71379 (1 day, 10:50:44)
09:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gia Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:71395 (1 day, 10:51:51)
09:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gia Mal Law) destroyed Charon, on T:71410 (1 day, 10:54:26)
09:36 <mobileuser> oops I am a murderer
09:36 <mobileuser> no more ESP
09:36 <K2> bad mobileuser, bad!
09:37 <mobileuser> all I did was wield the hammer of the gods :-(
09:37 <krm26> keep your hands open and at your sides at all times
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10:21 <mobileuser> just noticed that it's actually possible to forge sling bullets now...
10:22 <krm26> hi ho silver
10:22 <mobileuser> I should have kept an eye out for silver darts
10:22 <krm26> goggles, sling with silver bullets, on your horse -- you can be the lone nethack ranger
10:23 <mobileuser> you may joke sir, but sling + bullets is surprisingly effective
10:25 <mobileuser> wiki article only mentions their materials, could do with more info
10:30 <mobileuser> oh doh, Silver the horse of the Lone Ranger
10:30 <mobileuser> that took a while :-)
10:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2942 points, T:2007, killed by a Woodland-elf
10:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:100092 (1 day, 10:22:19)
11:02 <krm26> your first alhoon is always so special
11:25 <krm26> great, i managed to get myself slimed and engulfed by a sea dragon in one round
11:26 <krm26> ...i will never ever remember tp rules. 2nd vecna level, teleport the DRAGON, or teleport MYSELF with the wand? the DRAGON, right?
11:29 <Noisytoot> no-teleport level: teleport engulfer. teleport-allowed: teleport yourself.
11:29 <Noisytoot> I'm not sure which one the 2nd vecna level is
11:29 <krm26> yeah that math is too hard for me, i need an answer every time :-)
11:29 <Noisytoot> MAZE: "vecna-2",' '
11:29 <Noisytoot> FLAGS: noteleport,hardfloor,shortsighted,nommap
11:30 <Noisytoot> looks like it's noteleport, so teleport the dragon
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12:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 473 points, T:721, killed by the Goblin King
12:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 35 points, T:580, fell onto a sink
12:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 42 points, T:370, poisoned by a rotted goblin corpse
12:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide robe", on T:101367 (1 day, 12:14:23)
12:56 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2325 (0:17:38)
13:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2450 (0:20:57)
13:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1879 points, T:2461, killed by a piranha
13:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:35, poisoned by a rotted orc corpse, while praying
13:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3079 (0:58:24)
13:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3206 (1:00:48)
13:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Shrigis' ghost, the former Brute, on T:3528 (1:08:40)
13:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:101932 (1 day, 12:45:02)
13:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:102223 (1 day, 12:52:01)
13:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible willisllama's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:1862 (0:25:28)
13:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:47293 (11:30:55)
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13:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a saber entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:48235 (11:38:08)
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13:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:102582 (1 day, 13:03:01)
13:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a wooden dagger entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:48598 (11:43:25)
13:43 <krm26> argh no way to refast a slowed greater pegasus
13:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a gnomish wizard), on T:4337 (1:39:14)
13:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3843 (0:48:01)
13:59 <Umbire> thrown potions of speed don't check monster MR pretty sure
14:00 <krm26> ooh, that is pretty slick, never tried that
14:00 <Umbire> ...how.
14:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4539 (0:57:03)
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14:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 6373 points, T:5224, killed by a bolt of lightning
14:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:103273 (1 day, 13:31:21)
14:07 <krm26> omigod! decapitated before he left his throne
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14:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 8362 points, T:5476, killed by Mr. Kirikkale; the shopkeeper
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14:33 <K2> \o/
14:33 <krm26>  /o\
14:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed greased gjallar", on T:103800 (1 day, 14:01:08)
14:44 <K2> krm26 the musician
14:44 <krm26> my luckstone was too heavy, i had to do it
14:45 <krm26> all about the aum
14:45 <krm26> plus this way the oracle gets to live
14:45 <K2> heh
14:46 <K2> play some skynyrd!
14:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:103869 (1 day, 14:13:39)
14:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 373 points, T:1231, killed by a dagger
15:04 <Noisytoot> how heavy is gjallar?
15:05 <krm26> 18 aum!
15:06 <krm26> tooled horn weight
15:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2077 (0:17:11)
15:20 <Umbire> putting a pin in that to wikify later
15:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5307 (1:08:45)
15:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:104262 (1 day, 14:48:02)
15:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:5548 (1:11:34)
15:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:104264 (1 day, 14:48:46)
15:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided green slimes, on T:104296 (1 day, 14:53:41)
15:29 <krm26> man i am so lazy
15:30 <krm26> i will do a ton of work so i can just keysmash my way across a level without paying attention
15:36 <krm26> alllright, 36 smoky fruit juice. let's see if i can squeeze 1 wish out of them
15:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 9 crude daggers on an altar, on T:3753 (0:35:03)
15:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 mithril helm of brilliance", on T:104367 (1 day, 15:04:58)
15:41 <krm26> yes, my rng came through. 1 out of 36 smoky potions gave a wish
15:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:104420 (1 day, 15:09:09)
15:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:104420 (1 day, 15:09:13)
15:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:7894 (1:36:39)
15:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed willisllama's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:8207 (1:42:41)
15:58 <mobileuser> I have to hope for better luck with smoky for a BoH
15:59 <mobileuser> been killing scores of player monsters, but no one drops holdy bags
16:16 <krm26> it cracks me up how i can routinely get 3% success for smoky potions
16:17 <krm26> although to be fair i had used 3 lamps previously
16:17 <krm26> so i guess my rng only performed half as well as the universe's standard rng
16:27 <mobileuser> not found any magic lamps yet :-)
16:28 <mobileuser> I wonder how Splunge is doing
16:29 <mobileuser> seems to be having fun with alt accounts
16:31 <mobileuser> "Caveman have a role bonus for multishot for spear and sling." I'm not seeing any multishot even at skilled...
16:31 <mobileuser> for sling that is
16:32 <krm26> im impressed someone has equipped a sling
16:34 <Umbire> I mean they're the best ranged option behind the aklys for priests and cavefolk
16:34 <Umbire> though one "primary" barrier is you can't craft more ammo
16:34 <mobileuser> bullets do 1d6+1 vs small and 1d4+1 vs large
16:35 <mobileuser> Umbire you can actually
16:35 <mobileuser> I saw a commit
16:35 <Umbire> can you?
16:35 <mobileuser> rocks + darts
16:35 <Umbire> must've been fairly recent but my memory's spotty anyway so
16:35 <Umbire> interesting
16:35 <mobileuser> lemme see...
16:36 <mobileuser> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/a544e5f344b0f795ad0ebf87747b52e0e0617dbf
16:36 <mobileuser> if I had known earlier I would have started collecting silver darts
16:37 <krm26> silver darts can (eventually) make silver anything, so always collect silver darts!
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16:39 <mobileuser> heh
16:39 <mobileuser> Sofrasos the Student of Fire
16:39 <mobileuser> will YOU have a BoH
16:41 <mobileuser> ok, expert sling now, will that mean multishot
16:43 <mobileuser> !tell K2 my caveman has expert sling skill, is wielding a sling, but is not getting multishots with sling bullets. Bug?
16:43 <Hecubus> I'm on it, mobileuser.
16:45 <mobileuser> NPC #?? (lost count) no BoH :-(
17:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:4211 (0:58:55)
17:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Rog Dro Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:4116 (0:49:23)
17:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gia Mal Law) destroyed Kas, on T:74429 (1 day, 13:09:04)
17:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Rog Dro Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:5168 (0:56:36)
17:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Cav Gia Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased dragonhide bag of holding named Superbag II", on T:74569 (1 day, 13:20:07)
17:23 <mobileuser> muhahah!!!
17:23 <mobileuser> smoky delivered
17:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Rog Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5454 (1:03:19)
17:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Rog Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5459 (1:03:34)
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17:28 <K2> hey mobileuser
17:28 <Hecubus> K2: Message from mobileuser at 2024-01-29 16:43 EST: my caveman has expert sling skill, is wielding a sling, but is not getting multishots with sling bullets. Bug?
17:28 <K2> https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/dothrow.c#L220-L226
17:28 <mobileuser> :-(
17:28 <mobileuser> but caveman!
17:28 <K2> you get boulders
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17:29 <K2> and slings are a giants nemesis weapon
17:29 <mobileuser> bleh
17:29 <K2> david meets goliath
17:29 <mobileuser> but I'm also a caveman
17:29 <mobileuser> caveman sad...
17:29 <K2> a giant caveman
17:29 <mobileuser> SAD
17:29 <K2> sad giant caveman
17:29 <mobileuser> yup
17:29 <mobileuser> lol
17:29 <K2> :P
17:29 <Umbire> lol rip
17:30 <mobileuser> oh well, the sling can go in the bin
17:33 <mobileuser> I don't think it's mentioned yet on the evilhack page (in the section on giants)
17:33 <mobileuser> will check tomorrow
17:34 <Umbire> I'm p. sure it isn't, but I'll probably correct that today
17:34 <Umbire> in the mood
17:34 <mobileuser> "Giants are good at throwing things, but not at using bows, crossbows and slings"
17:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 4687 points, T:5991, killed by a soldier ant
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17:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 13695 points, T:9400, killed by a tortle shaman
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18:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:90584 (20:34:19)
18:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 2333160 points, T:74458, killed by Graz'zt
18:27 <Umbire> F
18:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1169 points, T:1349, killed by a bolt of lightning
18:39 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±5] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/8c49e5c0c2c6...551a8b15b17a
18:39 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 551a8b1 - Fix: fixedness knowledge preventing merging of supermaterials
18:41 <terrapin> !tell bouquet mystery solved! https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/551a8b15b17aa93be62e67c87936b8177fb682fa
18:41 <Hecubus> Will do, terrapin!
18:43 <Umbire> gj
18:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:91825 (21:10:29)
18:53 <Umbire> @e?Cerberus
18:53 <Hecubus> Cerberus (d) | Lvl: 27 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 20 | Res: fire sleep poison petrification drain | Confer: fire | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -7 | Atk: 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 breath fire | Align: -7 | carnivore, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, infravis
18:53 <Umbire> @x?Cerberus
18:53 <Hecubus> Cerberus (d) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire | Confer: fire | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: 2 | Atk: 5d6 bite physical, 3d4 bite drain con, 5d6 bite fire, 6d6 claw physical, 6d6 claw physical | Align: -7 | carnivore, regen, nopoly, infravis
18:54 <Umbire> lower level but hurt WAY fucking more in comparison
18:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:91871 (21:12:38)
18:58 <Umbire> still kinda annoyed about it
18:59 <terrapin> youch
19:02 <Umbire> doesn't help you get blitzed by dragons and demons, including bone devils that can summon skeletons at will 
19:02 <terrapin> more like vexNethack amirite
19:02 <Umbire> easybabyhack btw
19:03 <Umbire> honestly I think it's partly my fault for not documenting the divergences from vanilla more thoroughly even before 8.0 
19:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Noisytoot (Mon Dro Fem Cha), 60943 points, T:15259, killed by a bolt of cold, while frozen by a monster's gaze
19:12 <Noisytoot> I hate floating eyes
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19:19 <Umbire> ab
19:19 <Noisytoot> apparently my bagged hawaiian shirt was of telepathy
19:20 <Loggers_VIII> ab
19:20 <Loggers_VIII> floating eyes are shit
19:21 <Loggers_VIII> I would trade paranoid water for floating eyes not existing any day
19:21 <Loggers_VIII> the amount of times I've lagged into them isn't even funny
19:35 <bouquet> let's start a gofundme to get Loggers some sweet ass fiber internet!
19:35 <Hecubus> bouquet: Message from terrapin at 2024-01-29 18:41 EST: mystery solved! https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/551a8b15b17aa93be62e67c87936b8177fb682fa
19:37 <K2> ab
19:37 <Umbire> ab K2
19:39 <K2> Loggers_VIII what's your connection speed?
19:39 <Loggers_VIII> idk
19:40 <Loggers_VIII> depending on where I am it ranges from good to unbearable :p
19:40 <K2> maybe a better question is, what are you using for an internet connection
19:40 <Loggers_VIII> normally good. but sometimes I get too adventurous with what I think is an acceptable playing space
19:40 <Loggers_VIII> so it's my own fault, really
19:42 <Umbire> does your net also do the thing where it decides to arbitrarily drag ass the moment you're in a nethack mood
19:43 <Umbire> or idk, think too hard in its general direction
19:43 <K2> seriously, what are you using for an internet connection?
19:44 <bouquet> I had too many APs in my house at one point which was causing my computer to flipflop between them.  I had to get strategic with placement to eliminate the lag.
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19:45 <K2> bouquet do what I did - get a single enterprise class wireless access point that covers almost an entire acre :P
19:45 <Umbire> AT&T wireless service over here
19:46 <Umbire> it's good right up until it suddenly isn't
19:46 <Umbire> sure enough the lag meter on HexChat shoots up the moment I open PuTTY
19:47 <Umbire> though it did settle down quickly compared to normal :B
19:48 <Umbire> oh yeah, K2: are there like, any "temporary point of no return" type deals with these levels?
19:48 <K2> xnh?
19:48 <Umbire> where you get shut out if you escape or whatever
19:48 <Umbire> yeah
19:48 <K2> i dont think so
19:48 <Umbire> considering poking my head in one of the demon ruler lairs
19:48 <K2> but dont quote me, i havent played xnh since last june
19:48 <Umbire> 8.0 was out at that time, wasn't it
19:49 <Loggers_VIII> sorry. I got interrupted
19:49 <Loggers_VIII> I am also using at&t wireless, coincidentally
19:49 <Umbire> then you know my pain
19:50 <Loggers_VIII> yes. it will be fine for days or even weeks
19:50 <Loggers_VIII> and then fuck you (derogatory)
19:50 <Umbire> ...this upstair leads to Vlad's I think
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19:51 <Umbire> ohhhhhh man, I forgot briefly about the chasm thing
19:51 <Umbire> this is gonna suck so much
19:51 <Loggers_VIII> well at least you aren't like dead
19:51 <Loggers_VIII> that like was unneccessary. pretend it didn't happen
19:52 <Umbire> no
19:52 <Umbire> :3
19:53 <Umbire> that said, funny time for me to start my first foray into xnh Gehennom after that convo
19:54 <Umbire> and have the opening choice be "eat shit if you get lag spiked" the level
19:54 <Loggers_VIII> xnh gehennom is fun
19:55 <Loggers_VIII> cocytus is horrible (in a good-ish way). you get cold res stripped away from you all the time
19:57 <Umbire> and one of the vamps had create monster. wonderful
19:58 <bouquet> K2: BITD before wireless was much of a thing (2000) we had a 802.11b antena on top of a tall building in downtown and you could pick up the signal from 1/2 mile away.  You couldn't connect, though, because laptop transmit was too weak back then.
19:59 <K2> neat
19:59 <bouquet> there wasn't all the interference that you have today that would drown it out.  Or spectrum laws limiting broadcast power.
20:09 <Umbire> @x?Vlad the Impaler
20:09 <Hecubus> Vlad the Impaler (V) | Lvl: 28 | Diff: 32 | Spd: 26 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: -6 | Atk: 2d10 weapon physical, 1d12 bite level drain | Align: -10 | flies, breathless, regen, poisonous, nopoly, undead, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis
20:10 <Umbire> can still stone the bastard
20:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 255 points, T:1056, killed by an arrow
20:18 <Umbire> got him
20:19 <Umbire> bro had a plastic zweihander
20:22 <Umbire> Oh right Vlad has one of the other wands of wishing
20:24 <Umbire> phew, finally ID'd some good rings
20:24 <Noisytoot> how can you get cold res back if foodless and already crowned?
20:25 <Loggers_VIII> you can't, I suppose
20:25 <Loggers_VIII> you're encouraged to use it extrinsically anyway
20:26 <Umbire> wait it's not a temporary strip??
20:26 <Loggers_VIII> I don't think so?
20:26 <Loggers_VIII> I remember having to eat to get it back
20:28 <Noisytoot> I think it is permanent, from both ice traps and ice devils
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20:28 <Umbire> that's mean lmao
20:28 <Noisytoot> basically intrinsic cold res is useless in xnethack because you're going to lose it anyway
20:28 <Umbire> all this slagging the variant off and it pulls this punch
20:29 <Loggers_VIII> I mean that's just wrong, really
20:29 <Noisytoot> s/ice/cold/
20:29 <Umbire> also yeah that's all wrong and a bag of chips
20:29 <Loggers_VIII> you don't even have to go to cocytus if you don't wanna
20:29 <Umbire> eating cold res back is trivial if you're not vegan/foodless
20:30 <Umbire> you can also just detect traps beforehand and keep ice devils from meleeing you
20:30 <Umbire> anyway create familiar gave me a black mold so I'm just gonna mald rq
20:31 <Noisytoot> but then you have to deal with slow pw regen and cursed gain level not working on the ascension run and maybe some other bad effects depending on which lawful archfiend would have been in cocytus
20:32 <Loggers_VIII> new xnh is really good. I think more variants should incorporate similar stuff to it
20:32 <Loggers_VIII> ok then just eat dragons or wear a ring of cold res
20:32 <Umbire> almost like there are genuine risks to take
20:33 <Loggers_VIII> cocytus is not the only place in the game with cold damage, cold res still isn't useless
20:33 <Umbire> I don't know if I like the grind xnh Gehennom may represent for normal play but I'm also doing vegan weaponless monk so like
20:33 <Loggers_VIII> xnh gehennom is good because there's nearly no filler. it's back to back to back to back action
20:33 <Umbire> it's not something you can't plan for
20:34 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
20:34 <Noisytoot> I think it could be baalzebub (sometimes strips poison res, sickness kills you in half the time) or geryon (75% carrycap) in cocytus. I don't think dispater can be there.
20:34 <Loggers_VIII> yeah dispater is always in Dis
20:35 <Noisytoot> how bad is not being able to levelport in gehennom?
20:36 <Loggers_VIII> it's not that bad cuz main gehennom is pretty short compared to vanilla
20:36 <Loggers_VIII> though if you levelport a lot, it might be annoying. idk, I don't levelport really
20:36 <Umbire> I can levelport from Vlad's if I really want to and I'm not exactly swimming in tele scrolls atm
20:39 <Noisytoot> demogorgon in xnh does the same thing as juiblex's madness in dnh (triple hunger)
20:43 <K2> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/XNetHack#Gehennom_changes
20:49 <Umbire> thanks K2, need to work on propogating this across the wiki
20:50 <Umbire> people need to learn to respect this variant more
20:51 <Loggers_VIII> and also to disrespect the dumb 2nd wiztower level
20:51 <Umbire> lmao shut
20:51 <Umbire> reserving judgment for if I hit that level myself
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20:51 <Loggers_VIII> it had me scribbling insane schematics on scrap paper for 40 minutes like a madman!
20:52 <Loggers_VIII> it was funny, though. maybe it's funny
20:56 <Umbire> heading back topside to restore levels and ponder my next move
20:57 <Umbire> you know I've ID'd only one set of magical gloves and only have one set of randomized boots
20:57 <Umbire> which I'm p. sure are water walking
21:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2671 (0:54:42)
21:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2841 (0:57:53)
21:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3595 (1:04:49)
21:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "cursed magic marker", on T:94846 (22:04:43)
21:20 <Umbire> oh yeah poked at Perseus now I have a probing wand
21:20 <Umbire> snow boots are levitation
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21:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a crysknife bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:97180 (22:22:42)
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23:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:49468 (12:01:50)
23:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a shield of light entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:49891 (12:07:05)
23:23 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±5] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/551a8b15b17a...57eb04d10eea
23:23 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin bdaa457 - Fix: Polymorphed crocodile corpses should produce fireproof shoes
23:24 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 57eb04d - Fix: a couple cases of bracers preventing wielding bimanual weapons
23:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a copper dagger entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:51392 (12:19:41)