00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:45736 (1 day, 0:06:15) 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3480 points, T:4456, killed by a warg 00:04 Juiblex ezpz 00:32 -!- PhantomLumina has joined #evilhack 00:33 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4939 00:33 -!- Guest4939 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 00:33 -!- PhantomLumina is now known as Umbire 00:34 -!- Demo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34 -!- Demo1 has joined #evilhack 00:45 -!- dingotron85 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:48 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 106051 points, T:13208, petrified by Medusa 01:54 Somebody was speeding. 01:57 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 1661 points, T:1455, killed by the Goblin King 02:19 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 3122 points, T:3201, quit 02:24 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 541 points, T:667, killed by a lava demon 02:41 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1787 points, T:2597, killed by an exploding wand 03:10 So, do the Gauntlets of Purity confer complete death magic resistance? 03:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1883 points, T:2497, killed by a rothe 03:28 terrapin, you around to answer? 03:29 Never mind, just wiztested 03:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had a copper long sword entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:3376 (0:28:15) 03:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Tou Hob Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3502 (0:28:48) 05:13 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:32 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 06:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:06 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:07 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:11 -!- rebatela has quit [Client Quit] 07:12 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 07:12 Nice work on Cerberus Umbire 07:12 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2024-01-19 20:00 EST: "You activated a magic portal! You feel dizzy for a moment, but the sensation passes. Ow, that light hurts!  Ow, that light hurts!  Ow, that light hurts!" <--- i'm not entirely sure 07:15 K2 it was probably just some message buffer glitch, it hasn't happened since 07:16 Still need the strategic touches, I leave that to you all 07:17 Did up a death resistance article, now doing sickness resistance 07:18 One bit missing: you can't levelport at all while Cerberus is alive, so you can't do an emergency escape back to the dungeon 07:18 cursed gain level won't work either 07:19 I see 07:20 I'll be up for a while yet so I'll take that 07:20 oh, the magic flute! 07:20 Hm? 07:20 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/30eef2fa690d42677c5ac658c759f38fed40d7ed 07:20 Ah good, I was hoping there was a special case 07:22 that + death res accounted for 07:23 nice 07:23 and teleport block now too 07:33 [EvilHack] Umbire forked the repository - https://github.com/Umbire 07:37 Caught something that got overlooked in a related commit 07:38 mobileuser, HotG confers sick res on carry, right? 07:38 Or on wield? 07:38 on wield 07:46 Alright 07:46 Do monsters with disease attacks have immunity to being diseased in turn? 07:55 not sure 08:00 -!- Demo1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- Demo has joined #evilhack 08:31 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:59159 (1 day, 14:05:05) 09:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:59307 (1 day, 14:13:21) 09:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) genocided beholders, on T:59485 (1 day, 14:18:11) 09:07 I should edit some of the Evil tiles so monsters can look more distinct 09:07 Once I reach a good stopping point in ongoing wiki nonsense 09:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2206 (0:08:12) 09:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3746 points, T:3267, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted lesser nightmare 09:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:59788 (1 day, 14:40:13) 09:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1606 points, T:534, killed by a rothe 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 4183 points, T:6014, killed by a fire ant 09:52 morning 09:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 7736 points, T:6090, killed by an orc shaman, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:05 'lo. 10:12 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 10:14 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28 ab 10:28 ab 10:28 I get the feeling that when you freeze a lava square, that square will be lit, even if the level is dark 10:29 could try some science... 10:30 Shouldn't be too hard to find an applicable level 10:31 oh all I needed to do was move onto a lava square 10:31 yes those are lit 10:33 didn't notice earlier because of my cursed magic lamp, only noticed when arrows started to crumble 10:44 ah, Shadowblade counts as a proper drow weapon for the TH bonus 10:44 noice 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:11659 (1:38:40) 10:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:60676 (1 day, 15:25:43) 10:52 Yo, the Hand 10:52 options, options 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4801 (0:55:00) 11:03 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:14294 (2:07:38) 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:14603 (2:10:27) 11:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had a two-handed sword entrusted to him by Set, on T:15454 (2:26:28) 11:44 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 1717 points, T:1508, killed by the Goblin King 11:51 if i find anymore of these 'light' scrolls early game I'm gonna be unstoppable 11:51 it almost seems OP 11:53 might want to scale back on some of these really useful scrolls generation. Getting bombarded with detect food and light. I don't even know what to do with them all! 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:17438 (2:54:49) 12:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 11540 points, T:6946, killed by Ms. Akranes; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 12:08 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 12:16 i know it's a vanilla thang... and i DO know what to do (blank/bless/poly) 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1569 points, T:1695, killed by a mountain dwarf 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:23761 (3:53:50) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24634 (4:12:02) 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2162 points, T:4769, killed by a hill orc 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide elven helm of drain resistance", on T:26285 (4:33:09) 13:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:61936 (1 day, 16:01:27) 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Ith Mal Una), 400 points, T:1162, killed by a kitten 14:08 @rebatela "(blank/bless/poly)" is it helpful to do bless before poly? does b/c/u affect the probabilities for poly outcomes? 14:09 reduces chance of shuddering 14:25 ah, did not know that. I was always waiting to after to bless, so that I wouldn't waste holy water on something that might shudder anyway 14:31 Okay. trying to think of the better build for taking on Kathryn, as a giant valkerie. Option 1 +6 Mjolnir and +5 shield (mastery at shield, big AC boost, chance to stun). Option 2: dual wield Vorpal blade and Angelslayer (for fire damage and 1/2 magic resist, but only basic skill). Option 3 - stack of poisoned spears and daggers (chance of instadeath) Option 4 just use wand of death? 14:35 she has an amulet of reflection and a 1/2 chance of a cloak of MR so option 4 is not an option 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:28566 (5:01:08) 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28577 (5:01:26) 14:38 I will save the wand charges then! 14:38 She's also death resistant besides so it's an ultranothingburger 14:40 last 2 times I've used poison against her and that was effective. But more so when as a ranger you could get up to 4 multishot chances for poison to be deadly per turn. Previous, I did learn the hard way that stinking cloud is a little *too* effective. 14:40 dingtotron: That's why i wait will take a stack of scrolls/potions and cancel them 14:40 no war crimes for u 14:41 (or dip/dilute) so I have like a stack of a shitload of uncursed blank scrolls and then bless the whole stack (with one holy water) 14:41 ha. yes the scroll of war crimes as a tendency to stick around and then make kathryn the enchantress mad at you (even though she's immune). And it's not great when she's mad. 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:28977 (5:05:21) 14:43 wait, will blank scrolls still poly into magical ones? I had always thought, like spellbooks or potions, that blanked/canceled means they are not going to become magical again if you poly them 14:43 Nope 14:43 poly goes by object type generally, with a few exceptions 14:43 (e.g. no poly cheese with scrolls of mail) 14:44 scroll becomes scroll, book becomes book, etc. 14:44 and blank scroll stays blank? 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1367 (0:14:33) 14:44 no. 14:45 no they do or no they don't? 14:45 a blank scroll is still a scroll. 14:45 scroll becomes scroll. 14:46 I am thinking of the rule that opjects with property magical are much more likely to lose magical property than gain it. 14:46 that's for armor and weapons 14:46 scrolls, books et. al. are by and large magical minus like one item 14:47 but blank spellbooks and paperbacks don't go being magical books right? 14:47 that is the one item I just spoke of, yes, and they can be polypiled into not-blank stuff as in vanilla. 14:47 and non-magical potions of water, oil, juice etc. ? 14:47 can turn into any other potion 14:48 oh 14:48 poly goes by object type 14:48 as I said minutes ago 14:48 it wasn't clear to me that object type wasn't also determined by magicality. 14:48 now I get it 14:49 why would... 14:49 never mind. 14:50 there are actually other variants where blank scrolls won't poly to other scrolls 14:50 tools are another thing that have two categories of magical and non magical that is relevant for polypiling 14:50 tools =/= scrolls and potions 14:50 thankfully in evilhack blank scrolls can turn into useful scrolls 14:50 I was expecting a consistent sort of behavior across weapons, armor, tools as well as scrolls/potions/wands/books etc. 14:51 theresyourproblem.jpg 14:51 you made assumptions 14:51 indeed. minor violation of expectations. 14:51 K2: is Red Horse always given or is there an alignment abuse threshold 14:52 not an answer to your question, but just wanted to note that Infidel never gets the Red Horse 14:52 neat 14:53 they should summon an ungenerated demon ruler instead :B 14:53 lol 14:53 (peaceful, not tame, let's remain at our station here) 14:54 demon lord / angel fight would be fun 14:54 does infidel get a mount on astral or none? 14:54 none 14:54 for Infidel, everyone is hostile on Astral 14:54 after all, you're there for Moloch 14:55 should give them something, like at least a old shopping cart with one rusty wheel. 14:56 Umbire: alignment record must be greater than 8 to get the red horse 14:56 i feel like k2 considered giving infidels a balrog at some point but i don't think anything came of it 14:56 the best would be if the red horse had intrinsic jumping 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:6691 (0:46:53) 14:57 as a giant, can I get me a Red Mammoth? 14:58 also aren't there like, actual angels of moloch up there 14:58 if anyone'd be peaceful it'd at least be a few of them 14:59 K2, you checked recent commits yet? 15:00 I wonder what everyone does up there all day on astral, just waiting around all day for adventurers to show up? 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6951 (0:50:38) 15:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3850 (0:31:17) 15:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:6986 (0:51:00) 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2523 points, T:3883, killed by the Goblin King 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) had a pair of jumping boots entrusted to her by Loki, on T:46336 (1 day, 1:06:55) 15:04 @e?woolly mammoth 15:04 woolly mammoth (q) | Lvl: 24 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 10 | Res: cold | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 6d6 butt physical, 1d8 hug physical, 6d6 butt knockback | Align: 0 | genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravis 15:04 they're already red 15:05 well that solves that then 15:07 heh 15:08 Umbire: "The Astral Plane lacks the guardian angel and the minions of Moloch in Infidel games; all the monsters are hostile." 15:08 oh boo 15:08 ah well 15:11 this the first time I notice that when 2-weaponing, the to-hit is different depending on which weapon is in the main-hand... 15:13 oh I'm probably just fooled by the TH display, the actual numbers will be different for each weapon 15:21 lol me and the abominable snowman are just playing catch with boulders 15:23 on the terminal it just looks like an extended rally of ping pong back and forth and back and forth 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:46790 (1 day, 1:26:13) 15:30 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:30 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:52 same race sac by accident... lucky that I'm chaotic 16:01 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:04 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:35140 (6:29:45) 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:941 (0:07:13) 16:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2930 (0:25:09) 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3293 points, T:3408, killed by a piranha 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11162 (2:19:29) 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 542 points, T:644, killed by the Goblin King 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had a mithril battle-axe entrusted to him by Anu, on T:12299 (2:28:35) 16:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:68402 (1 day, 17:32:14) 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:15087 (2:45:32) 17:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:69262 (1 day, 17:40:22) 17:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:69344 (1 day, 17:45:43) 17:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:69563 (1 day, 17:49:25) 17:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create the Armor of Retribution, on T:69610 (1 day, 17:51:36) 17:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Cav Dwa Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:19083 (3:07:03) 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Cav Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "the blessed magic mirror of merlin", on T:19769 (3:21:59) 17:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:404 (0:02:55) 18:05 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 2398 points, T:1191, quit 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:22156 (4:01:41) 18:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 966 points, T:1579, killed by a bugbear 19:14 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23 interesting. I dipped angelslayer into a potion of sickness. I got the message "The potion of sickness forms a coating on Angelslayer" but in inventory, it's not listed as poisoned 19:25 curses mode? 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:47405 (1 day, 2:12:12) 19:27 ok np. melee the icequeen works too 19:30 dingotron are you using curse smode 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:789 (0:13:28) 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha), 3979 points, T:1566, killed by a piranha 20:11 -!- Demo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:11 -!- Demo has joined #evilhack 20:39 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided disenchanters, on T:29832 (5:42:26) 21:06 Curse mode is best mode. :) 21:06 dingotron: melee the ice queen is what i often do but it's very dangerious. 21:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 904 points, T:2356, killed by the Goblin King 21:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 34 points, T:232, killed by a cadaver 21:10 -!- dingotron has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:13 YASI: Sitting on a trap always triggers it, even if it's a teleportation or polymorph trap, and even if you're wearing MR. 21:14 ^^ And as an extension to that, magic portals should not work if you're wearing MR, imho. 21:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:812 (0:04:52) 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:32447 (6:14:38) 21:48 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1275 (0:13:55) 21:49 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:70555 (1 day, 1:56:19) 21:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (tungsten.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 21:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:08 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:2880 (0:33:57) 22:31 " dingotron: melee the ice queen is what i often do but it's very dangerious. " 22:33 Would love to hear some other options because that's what i do too! And yeah, it seems to be very dangerous 22:34 i just feel like i'm gonna die if i stand there 22:35 It's very doable if you have the DPS 22:35 advanced fireball, poisoned projectiles, blessed scrolls of fire are common enough 22:36 far as ranged stuff 22:46 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 23:42 -!- Elenmirie has joined #evilhack 23:45 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:53 -!- xdminsy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]