00:06 aaaan my leveled up invisible pet vorpal jabberwock just went feral and untame... 00:06 that is not great 00:11 bummer. Pet vorpys are awesome. 00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1213 (0:07:11) 00:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:41843 (21:37:58) 00:16 ya. now have to deal with feral vorp. for now I wand of teleported him to other side of map. 00:17 also just found hidden dungeon. have never done this branch before 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 1166 points, T:1531, killed by a dwarf queen 00:22 it's got a very 'beta' feel. I expect there'll be more interesting levels in the future. 00:22 there's a few beholders and a boss beholder. 00:26 and a neothelid. that doesn't look friendly either 00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1954 (0:10:20) 00:32 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Neu) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:95813 (1 day, 3:23:34) 00:33 -!- dingotron24 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 3413 points, T:2640, killed by a centaurian priest of Brigit 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2157 (0:15:08) 01:05 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 2759 points, T:2582, quit 01:12 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:12 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 01:33 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:514 (0:04:39) 01:37 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 1338 points, T:1681, quit 01:45 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1677 (0:08:05) 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 3642 points, T:2698, killed by a small mimic 01:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:25420 (8:03:08) 02:18 -!- PhantomLumina has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:18 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) became permanently transformed into a revenant, on T:26075 (8:27:06) 02:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:22 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 02:22 Hello all - I had something new just happen. 02:22 I died on the Castle level but turned into a Revenant,  How is this possible? 02:24 Hi 02:24 Hello mobileuser, Welcome to #evilhack 02:25 that's extremely rare but possible 02:25 what killed you? 02:25 Not sure - would have to go back and check. 02:26 And as a R a cockatrice bit me so I'm dead for real now.  Alas. 02:26 ah damn 02:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 261634 points, T:26198, killed while stuck in creature form 02:27 no one has ever managed to ascend after being "revived" as an undead 02:27 my HP went down to 55 - possibly that's part of the reason... 02:27 "If a player is killed by any type of lich, they will arise as a revenant. " 02:28 Yeah that could have happened - I was fighting something invisible that I couldn't see.  It probably was a lich. 02:28 usually that's bones, but there is a rare chance you get to play on 02:28 I had a blessed luckstone so perhaps it helped me play on. 02:29 no, I don't think luck is taken into account, it's just a small chance 02:30 same for zombies 02:30  "There is a very small chance that the player will be able to continue playing if they are turned into a zombie" 02:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 29 points, T:50, poisoned by a rotted orc corpse, while praying 02:31 Hmmm, well, tonight was my lucky night, then.  Never had that happen before - kind of neat! 02:38 I wish the chance was a bit higher :-) 02:38 it's a bit of fun and in practice players get killed soon after anyway 02:39 Yeah by the time you're dusted by a lich usually there are other powerful monsters nearby, including the lich ! 02:40 only way would be an emergency escape back to stash 02:40 cursed teleport 02:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2187 (0:23:59) 02:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2365 (0:26:25) 03:01 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:53660 (1 day, 10:10:09) 03:14 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:15 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:20 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 03:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:55542 (1 day, 10:38:45) 04:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create Shadowblade, on T:55610 (1 day, 10:41:46) 04:13 Dichotomy/Shadowblade dual wield 05:03 @e?neothelid 05:03 neothelid (w) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: acid | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: special | AC: 2 | Atk: 6d6 breath acid, 2d4 tentacle physical, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 6d6 engulf digest | Align: -8 | carnivore, swims, nopoly 05:52 just saw the main wiki article on neothelid. does wearing an oilskin hat protect against their tentacle attacks? 05:52 also: do neothelids grudge all creatures with a brain, not just mind flayers? 05:53 It should, no clue on the latter 05:53 Logs or someone else'd know better 06:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 06:41 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:42 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:55 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:43 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 08:03 I have a feeling that multishotting arrows works better for me with drow arrows (as drow), but I may be imagining things 08:03 Couldn't find any commits for that 08:17 does wearing an oilskin hat protect against their tentacle attacks? <--- the brain sucking ones yes 08:17 nice edits mobileuser 08:17 thanks! 08:18 also: do neothelids grudge all creatures with a brain, not just mind flayers? <--- neothelids grudge any monster that isnt mindless 08:19 ok, that would be a good addition to the wiki 08:19 see src/mon.c line 2855 08:26 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:33 need a new leveled up master mind flayer (royal mind flayer, whatever) with a special summons for neothelids 08:33 it would be kinda cool if there were a few monsters that arent generated but reliant on a monster quaffing gain level :-) 08:34 but mind flayers hate neothelids 08:35 do they? dont know anything about the lore 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2539 (0:19:37) 08:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2336 points, T:2588, killed by a piranha 08:37 neothelids are mind flayer larvae that ate all their siblings and became big and strong. illithids see them as abominations because they’re mean 08:38 YANI: a branch that’s an underground mind flayer city. there’s a few neothelids and a bunch of flayers trying to take them out 08:39 put on your oilskin hat 08:39 they all want your brains, though 08:39 oilskin hat is cheating :( 08:39 lol 08:40 if you're an illithid, that branch would just be you on holiday. like visiting disneyworld 08:40 It’s fine, it can be combined with krm26’s idea of a monster on the ceiling that grabs your hat away 08:40 I shouldn't have waited till XL 30 to do the ice queen branch... 08:41 I guess his idea was it grabbed your towel/blindfold. but it can be hat too! 08:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:955 (0:06:13) 08:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:23 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5088 (0:47:48) 09:27 -!- Loggers_VIII24 has joined #evilhack 09:31 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:31 -!- Loggers_VIII24 is now known as Loggers_VIII 09:36 @e?cerberus 09:36 Cerberus (d) | Lvl: 27 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 20 | Res: fire sleep poison petrification drain | Confer: fire | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -7 | Atk: 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 breath fire | Align: -7 | carnivore, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, infravis 09:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 8801 points, T:6267, killed by a yeti 09:44 Umbire can cerberus convey teleportitis? I thought i was only fire and teleport control. 09:45 oh not here 09:46 it's just fire resistance and telecontrol 09:46 right, I'll edit the page 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:631 (0:07:02) 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Ith Mal Una), 2133 points, T:1219, killed by a mountain dwarf 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Dro Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1495 (0:11:30) 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Dro Mal Una) killed Gollum, on T:2052 (0:15:09) 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Dro Mal Una), 4197 points, T:3319, killed by a Woodland-elf 10:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1084 (0:06:31) 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 1575 points, T:1647, killed by a piranha 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided shocking spheres, on T:100531 (2 days, 10:04:17) 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:100567 (2 days, 10:12:51) 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Inf Ith Mal Una), 27 points, T:212, killed by a bear trap 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Inf Ith Mal Una) murdered Hecubus, his faithful lesser homunculus, on T:593 (0:02:48) 11:27 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:28 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:39 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:40 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:42 !tell mobileuser The quick Cerberus stub used a nhtohtml from a somewhat older version - just bring up to speed like you did 11:42 Will do, Umbire! 11:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided black dragons, on T:101616 (2 days, 10:59:27) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided gray dragons, on T:101617 (2 days, 10:59:31) 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided energy vortices, on T:101619 (2 days, 11:00:18) 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:101619 (2 days, 11:00:30) 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided mind flayers, on T:101620 (2 days, 11:01:17) 11:55 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 11:57 go get em krm26 ! 11:57 lol i remember doing pretty much same yesterday 11:58 anything to not have to slog through the wizard's tower :-( running out of ways to waste time 11:58 ugh and im so heavy because i'm loaded up with smoky gain level 11:58 were you the one saying you don't like the wiz tower? 11:58 yup 11:59 i should say, i dont like the first level of the wizard's tower 11:59 you poor thing... I can't CARRY all these smoky gain level potions!! 11:59 i think it should have more extreme guaranteed shortcuts through all that garbage 11:59 it's making me like it more and more 12:00 i say get rid of the shortcuts or at least make them "less extreme" 12:00 really? what do you like about a level full of monsters when you are fully kitted out and no longer looking for loot? 12:00 i'm enjoying your frustration 12:00 lol 12:00 i think shortcuts are bullshit too (espcially since I don't know where they are) 12:01 the shortcuts arent always there and arent very short so dont sweat it 12:01 there's zoo in the original vanilla tower 12:01 that i think everyone feels similarly about 12:01 yeah, that was the worst part of the tower :-) 12:01 so it just takes that to a new levfel 12:01 now there is like 8x that much 12:01 i don't think you're supposd to be like "oh sweet! I can work on my kit!" 12:02 i don't like that he got rid of the mysterious force either 12:02 i'm just going to walk through it zapping wands of teleport i guess 12:02 should have made it eveven more tediuous 12:02 and more throwing you back a couple levels 12:02 it's SUPPOSED TO SUCK 12:02 and it's annoying how every variant goes and nerfs itg 12:02 there is a difference between making things challenging and making people want to stop playing 12:03 true true 12:03 i just think you're not appreciating that maybe you're supposed to go "oh fuck" 12:03 there is a degree in all variants and vanilla, more in some and less in others, where there is really nothing left to do but prove you can do a boring repetitive slog after you have kitted yourself 12:03 and not just blaze through it 12:04 the Kathyrn level balances it well imo 12:04 but it isnt "oh fuck" this is hard or challenging, it is "oh fuck" gonna be so boring 12:04 but again, I think it's SUPPOSED to be a little overwhelming and tedious 12:04 i think evilhack does a really good job of uncrapping things, but a level with wall to wall monsters in the endgame isnt part of that uncrapping 12:04 imagine if you tried speed running and you WEREN'T all kitted out... you can just run through it all 12:05 i cant imagine that, i never speed run 12:05 kinda playing devils advocate a bit i guess, but I don't think it's so bad (i've also only done it once...) 12:05 meant to say it makes it so you *CAN'T just run through it 12:05 ? it isnt challenging 12:05 in vanilla you can just cursed gain level past those floors... 12:05 the wizard room 12:05 and I pretty much always do these days 12:06 i mean, it is challenging because who can be bothered to pay attention to all those messages 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 angelslayer", on T:101649 (2 days, 11:16:32) 12:07 alright got rid of all those potions 12:08 i feel like you're being awfully harsh... THink of how many people never even get to that point 12:08 now things are gonna suck, i haven't done the wizard's tower and beyond higher than level 19 in a long time 12:08 30 is going to be punishing 12:09 i don't pay attention to any of that because i alawys go to 30 12:09 imo you should stop at 19 until you kill the wizard and then chow 11 gain level 12:09 i like my magic missile dmg tho... 12:09 that's interesting 12:10 yeah you will have your mm damage where you want it for the important part 12:10 just not for the pre-lucifer demon lords, which you will have your +7 silver shuriken for 12:10 !lastgame rebatela 12:10 rebatela: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1663704988.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1705278905.evil.html 12:10 i'm carrying 65 +7 silver shuriken on this rogue 12:10 oh nice 12:10 can they train the skill? 12:11 skilled 12:11 nice 12:11 i go the silver shuriken route on any class that can get basic :-) 12:11 yeah i had at least 100 in that game more back at stash 12:11 yeah 12:11 they are so underused... 12:11 -!- sludge_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11 their damage-to-weight ratio is unsurpassed 12:12 i just collect weapons like arrows and bolts the whole game and it all get poly'd for shuriken 12:12 but i guess now you can forge them? 12:12 you poly for them? i collect silver arrows, knives, daggers, and darts and forge them 12:12 i haven't even looked into that 12:12 it is the way 12:12 nice 12:12 yeah i need to start 12:13 i am polypiling ANYWAY but maybe i am wasting them 12:13 2 arrows + knife, either silver, -> dagger; 2 darts + dagger, either silver, -> 2-3 shuriken 12:13 what you need all of them to make a shuriken? 12:13 oh wow 12:13 i knew that. I just keep forgetting to do it 12:13 so if you find like 60 silver darts you can use 30 daggers to make ~150 silver shuriken 12:14 no shit... 12:14 all at once? 12:14 sadly no 12:14 like a stack? 12:14 oh i see 12:14 so i just untrap everything hoping something will be silver 12:14 right 12:14 i pretty much do that anyway 12:15 but i have always just added to my poly piles (this goes back way before forges) 12:15 i pile up all the cursed stuff and cancel 12:15 rings and what no 12:15 ot 12:15 yeah i use random shuriken drops to train the skill 12:16 I had SO many inc. dmg rings to eat this shambling horror splat game 12:16 i tend to hoard rings and amulets, those are what i poly, based on which rings are edible 12:16 hah 12:16 took the thought out of my mind 12:16 but after many Bad Experiences (tm) i always eat magical breathing 12:16 yeah 12:16 polycontrol too when edible 12:16 guarding amulets... 12:16 i always forget to eat guarding 12:17 but ac is rarely an issue 12:19 i think after this run i may try to render the dungeon extinct 12:24 i have some ideas to 'deslog' the first wizards tower level 12:24 while still making ti challenging 12:24 *it 12:28 that would be awesome 12:29 i dont mean to sound negative! it is rare when there is something that doesnt ring true with evilhack so i have to really rip out its entrails when i have the chance 12:29 enter slog level now 12:30 its fine 12:30 you know what might be cool? an item you could get and trigger in the wizards tower to turn on conflict for the whole level 12:31 like "disrupt wizard's control of his defenses" kinda thing 12:31 everything would still be there but it would now be a jolly free-for-all 12:32 or like you could secret door into the back room and break the control orb or something 12:33 huh 12:34 man the titans behind bars to continually summon crap on you REALLY blow 12:34 no secret doors again :-( 12:35 i've only seen the secret door on my first run through the tower 12:37 if playername == krm26, decrease odds of good things happening by factor of 10 12:38 it is only like a 20% chance right? so i'm not even violating the normal laws of probability yet 12:38 i think this is maybe my 4th or 5th time through 12:38 i dont remember off top of my head 12:38 and as i recall when i had it the other random door layout actually made it a "long cut" :-) 12:45 ok, 2 strategically read confused tamings should make this more palatable 12:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful crocodile, on T:102268 (2 days, 11:57:34) 12:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:314 (0:08:50) 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:102475 (2 days, 12:03:35) 12:57 again krm26, you could just levelport past that all 12:57 mobileuser: Message from Umbire at 2024-01-19 11:42 EST: The quick Cerberus stub used a nhtohtml from a somewhat older version - just bring up to speed like you did 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:897 (0:14:41) 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Gia Mal Una), 1253 points, T:1671, killed by the Goblin King 13:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:04 krm26 you can levelport past the first wiz tower level 13:05 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2551/source 13:05 lol 13:05 :P 13:05 if i could effectively communicate in all meme, I would 13:05 I still think you shouldn’t be able to do that but I’m a gater 13:05 hatee 13:06 HATER 13:06 hahah 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:102618 (2 days, 12:16:18) 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:102620 (2 days, 12:16:24) 13:07 HAX 13:08 -!- Loggers_VIII90 has joined #evilhack 13:08 im gonna regret leveling to 30 and killing the wizard without cleaning the dungeon and finding the vibrating square 13:09 it’ll be fine 13:10 what do you want to magically repair? no way! never seen that before 13:10 skilled repair armor? 13:10 apparently 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 1045 points, T:1392, killed by a bolt of cold 13:11 krm26 why regret? 13:11 once rodney is dead, mon gen based on your exp level goes away 13:11 normally i clear everything, get all prepped, kill the wizard, level to 30 and then ritual 13:11 oh i see 13:11 nm 13:11 this game i went to 30 like a loser, killed the wizard first thing, and now have to continue 13:11 (gain level was smoky) 13:14 -!- Loggers_VIII90 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +3 Dragonbane", on T:1513 (0:30:39) 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a ring mail entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1572 (0:34:04) 13:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:102686 (2 days, 12:27:44) 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the illithid high priest of Moloch, on T:102853 (2 days, 12:33:48) 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:102853 (2 days, 12:33:49) 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 1332 points, T:3794, killed by the Goblin King 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:102929 (2 days, 12:37:57) 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2818 (0:17:56) 13:31 the problem with waiting to get XL30 is that you can't make use of foocubi to increase your max HP/Pw 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Inf Ith Mal Una), 407 points, T:781, killed by a large spider 13:32 i mean, there are plenty of potions...i'm at 572hp/314 power without sleeping around 13:32 but then i am a slooowwwww player 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:102950 (2 days, 12:42:01) 13:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:57355 (1 day, 12:14:59) 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Gia Mal Una), 2618 points, T:3819, killed by Mr. Angmagssalik; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Saint Michael, on T:103084 (2 days, 12:47:22) 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a splint mail entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3018 (0:56:58) 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided electric eels, on T:103149 (2 days, 12:52:47) 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided vampire mages, on T:103149 (2 days, 12:53:10) 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided giant centipedes, on T:103150 (2 days, 12:53:40) 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class D, on T:103150 (2 days, 12:54:44) 13:47 kill them all 13:49 just dont know what to do with all these scrolls, feel bad leaving them behind 13:50 i'm carrying 4 unused magic markers and 0 scrolls to write on 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1985 (0:12:24) 13:50 i think i'm gonna stop at 12 full healing and just drink the rest 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4007 (1:09:16) 13:54 wow 3 @npcs huddled on the upstairs 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:103765 (2 days, 13:09:32) 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 2454 points, T:3325, killed by a mumak 14:06 don't let the woollies kill you 14:07 fair is fair 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:103997 (2 days, 13:17:57) 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:103998 (2 days, 13:18:00) 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:4905 (1:01:53) 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Gia Mal Una), 749 points, T:941, killed by a little dog 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:104082 (2 days, 13:22:49) 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the White Horse, on T:104088 (2 days, 13:23:00) 14:15 Bouquet the Demonologist gets angry! 14:15 uh oh 14:16 woohoo! 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 8440660 points, T:104117, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1704484232.evil.html 14:16 congrats krm26! 14:17 rogues are so relaxing 14:17 best role? 14:19 best? priests are my favorite. but rogues dont require a lot of energy 14:20 the roles that i dont feel like i fully appreciate are rangers (because they are just rogues in the endgame) and cavemen 14:21 man youve really been racking up the wins the past month or two mobileuser 14:22 you dont have to worry, i will NEVER catch you :-) 14:24 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2965 (0:13:13) 14:26 i dont know how you have the fortitude for a 50% win percentage mobileuser 14:27 sometimes i just need to crazily fart around on the early levels or roll up something interesting 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3347 (0:15:30) 14:28 heh thx krm26 14:28 your percentage is even more impressive considering how many of the runs are convict + infidel where getting through the early game can easily be nondeterministic 14:28 it's fun trying to beat the odds of bad RNG starts 14:29 it is, that is the best part of the game, turning yourself into something survivable 14:29 but sometimes surviving the rng can be sooo boring that i just have to take lots of risks 14:29 food time, bbbl 14:29 later! 14:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:30 congrats krm26 \o/ 14:30 ... DIRGE 14:31 rogues are unstoppable 14:31 it would be cool to see a win % (games > 10k turns) stat on nethackscoreboard in addition to the normal win % 14:31 ask malor about that 14:32 im not allowed out of this channel 14:32 lol 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:4123 (0:22:26) 14:35 just trying to make myself feel better about my shitty win % :-) i muck around for intriguing starts way too much 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) destroyed mitsilvan's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:4137 (0:22:57) 14:36 my win/loss ratio is horrid 14:36 something like 1 to 1.5% 14:36 you should ask k2 for help 14:36 fuck that guy 14:36 but THANKS, that is my win percentage too 14:36 horrid is it 14:36 :) 14:37 i feel like i win about 75% of the games that i clear to sokoban 14:37 at least the past year or so 14:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 19077 points, T:6701, killed by a gremlin, while praying 14:37 i just cant bring myself to be careful a lot of the time. my fingers would rather type stupid commands 14:41 i tend to play... loose? 14:41 i dont want to say reckless 14:47 does winrate on nethackscoreboard include startscums? 14:48 hmm 14:48 not sure 14:48 good question though 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:1107 (0:13:44) 14:51 mmmmm 14:52 and that fountain was on level 3 in a room with an altar bayBE 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6111 (0:48:11) 15:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:2048 (0:25:30) 15:04 heh game over krm26 15:05 early dipping is what I don't do for that win percentage :-) 15:13 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:14 yeah i live for early dipping 15:14 gimme all your snakes and water demons 15:14 :-) 15:15 heh, then i just killed myself by eating a zombie 15:15 thought it was a kobold i just killed 15:15 urgh 15:16 that's why i'm at 1% :-) 15:16 ooh my prayer timer must have JUST ticked over, reprieve 15:16 can't pray because of the cleaver gift? 15:16 ooh 15:16 was a near thing 15:16 yay 15:17 still on course for a streak 15:17 i've never had the diligence to do more than a 2-streak 15:18 your streak is now like 300 games long or something? 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2623 (0:28:52) 15:18 lol, 8 max, current 4 15:19 slacker! 15:19 my smoky is acid, but will have to waste one to get the superbag :-( 15:19 mmm, tangy 15:22 smashing a potion should also have a chance of releasing a djinni 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:3458 (0:44:57) 15:23 or a ghost 15:23 ghosts already come from milky potions 15:23 I mean, if you smash the potion 15:23 oh you mean smashing the correct ones 15:23 yeah 15:23 yeah, i get it. i concur 15:23 and the djinni should be maddddd 15:24 "what the hell dude! i was two months from paying that off!" 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Bar Gia Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:8384 (1:11:34) 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3461 (0:46:18) 15:24 no, just chance of. after all, it's still released 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3068 (0:35:30) 15:26 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 15:27 You smash Lucifer with your potion of paralysis! An enormous ghost appears! You are frightened to death! 15:28 oh, chance of ghost from milky goes down with number of ghosts generated 15:28 do that would be pretty unlikely 15:28 * so 15:29 ive never had an offensive milky potion smashed into me by a monster that then releases a ghost that scares me...wonder if that can happen? 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Inf Ith Mal Una), 6347 points, T:3610, killed by a drow raider 15:30 no, but a monster can quaff milky and get a ghost 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3671 (0:52:40) 15:39 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:39 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:43 just realised that celestial dragon scales are effectively a cloak of flight 15:44 something to keep in mind next time the cloak slot doesn't really matter 15:45 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:50 ooo, never thought of them that way 15:50 flight is critical for lazy-asses like me 15:51 speaking of which, time to go see if i can flounder to a magic key 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:4888 (1:14:49) 16:05 the problem with dragon scales as a cloak is that you can't enchant them 16:06 (you can wish for them enchanted, but whether you get the enchantment is RNG-dependent) 16:08 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 16:08 for endgame unenchanted stuff gives you a very high ac if you arent a giant or tortle 16:09 so i dont think that is a *huge* problem 16:15 yeah, it's not necessary to have these ridiculous -70 AC etc numbers 16:16 (if you are a giant or tortle you can't wear a cloak anyway) 16:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:57883 (1 day, 12:47:28) 16:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:57900 (1 day, 12:48:09) 16:20 right, my point was just that those are the only situations you care much about endgame enchantments 16:29 krm26: congrats 16:30 true 16:31 I wonder if red dragon scales protect against sliming, my armor is red dragon scaled and I had a lot of green slimes summoned around me 16:34 probably not 16:40 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:57 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:57 thx rebatela 16:58 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 17:01 "You activated a magic portal! You feel dizzy for a moment, but the sensation passes. 17:01 Ow, that light hurts!  Ow, that light hurts!  Ow, that light hurts!" 17:02 K2 why :-) 17:02 there were no yellow lights or anything else 17:03 oh, does a drow get that every time they leave gehennom? 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Inf Ith Mal Una), 5211 points, T:5147, killed by a dwarf lady 17:49 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4412 (0:48:06) 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5185 (0:56:48) 18:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:5821 (1:08:39) 18:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:18 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4598 (0:45:49) 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6751 (1:19:05) 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] splunginator (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 10523 points, T:5742, killed by a raven 18:35 wow i just realized you can pick up a certain amount of something by pressing like n, 18:35 * rebatela 's head explodes 18:38 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:44 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:74685 (15:09:19) 19:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:76245 (16:03:54) 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:76326 (16:07:06) 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:76327 (16:07:13) 19:56 i thought there was some huge, painful, monotonous journey through the tower? 20:00 !tell mobileuser "You activated a magic portal! You feel dizzy for a moment, but the sensation passes. Ow, that light hurts!  Ow, that light hurts!  Ow, that light hurts!" <--- i'm not entirely sure 20:00 I'm on it, K2. 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:77326 (16:22:06) 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:77327 (16:22:16) 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:77731 (16:27:02) 20:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:78089 (16:35:44) 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) killed the orcish high priestess of Moloch, on T:78177 (16:39:21) 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:78186 (16:39:38) 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:8928 (2:14:40) 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:78214 (16:43:02) 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:78251 (16:45:05) 20:35 gg 20:37 Solunge doing the dishes? 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:9509 (2:29:03) 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:78292 (16:48:51) 20:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Set, on T:78702 (17:01:44) 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:15944 (3:40:58) 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:79269 (17:15:45) 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:79272 (17:15:51) 21:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:79431 (17:22:27) 21:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha) killed the Rider, on T:79455 (17:23:11) 21:21 homeboy plays fast 21:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Cen Mal Cha), 8707274 points, T:79464, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Splunge/evilhack/dumplog/1705357696.evil.html 21:21 congrats splunge (even though they aren't here) 21:28 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:36 -!- dingotron85 has joined #evilhack 21:40 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 21:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 3882 points, T:1911, zombified by a gnome zombie, while praying 22:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:3035 (0:24:57) 22:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Ith Mal Una), 5934 points, T:4411, killed by a champion of Raijin 22:28 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:30 K2, you around atm? 22:30 yeah 22:30 sup 22:31 Got the pages for the dogs done, pretty rudimentary template text though. Any particular touches you'd like me to add? 22:34 K2, specifically for your dogs to be clear. 22:35 lemme look 22:36 nice 22:36 i didnt think of the fountains as a water bowl for each but yeah that works 22:37 You're lying. 22:37 No way that wasn't the intent. :B 22:37 seriously 22:38 lol 22:38 ever seen a pet around a toilet? pets are great at turning things into water bowls when you don't expect it! 22:39 hah yup 22:39 why we always close the lids 22:43 Ha. 22:43 Anyway, feel free to add whatever you think's necessary for those three. 22:43 I'll work on Cerberus in the meantime. 22:43 it looks fine 22:43 good work 22:43 To that end: Is the intrinsic odds for teleport control correct on Cerberus? 22:44 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:9315 (1:52:37) 22:44 i think so 22:45 And you can get fire resistance alongside possible TC, yeah? 22:46 Either way, I need to see the amount you get from him, hmm... 22:46 yes 22:46 13% 22:54 Oh, K2, now that potions of sickness have a fixed appearance, how do you feel about being able to dip potions in sewage to make sickness pots? 22:54 Since you can't farm smoky that way 22:55 Could also make it so the Sewer Creature™ still has a chance to nab the dipped potions 23:00 i dunno. sickness potions are underrated, being able to make as many as you want feels OP 23:00 you can already make some with potions of fruit juice and gray fungus corpses 23:00 Hence me suggesting the sewer creature could interfere 23:00 But fair. 23:01 You can also just dip a stack of fruit juice in a sickness pot, if you're not that anal about potion efficiency. 23:04 teleport control is always a 10% chance 23:06 Point me to the line of code, please. 23:06 I have the article open, just need to verify. 23:07 erm 23:07 aha: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/09a3226e5f0bb87d34225ad5215c34ae6c88c30f/src/eat.c#L1046 23:08 should_givit gets me every time, but it's not used for players 23:09 (it says 1 in 12, but don't believe its lies) 23:14 And that's everything that has teleport in the game ever and can either leave a corpse or be digested. 23:14 Yeah? 23:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 5050 points, T:6014, quit 23:30 Aw what, he's sleep resistant? 23:31 Boooooooooo, what about the ~~encyclopedia~~ lore! 23:45 being a giant protects you against engulfing, but not drowing attacks right from eels/krakens? 23:47 Yeah, pretty sure that's the case. 23:49 thx. ya. I am assuming that is the case to be safe. 23:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2619 (0:20:55) 23:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:45487 (23:56:06) 23:54 yes! got the teleport control. thanks for the tip on that just now :) 23:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2935 (0:23:42) 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:45547 (23:57:54) 23:56 Umbire yes, everything is 10% for teleport control. similarly teleportitis is always 20% 23:56 Ack.