00:17 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest6889 00:17 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:18 -!- Guest6889 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:30 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1120 points, T:1514, killed by the Goblin King 01:04 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:2119 (0:28:43) 01:06 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2026 points, T:2462, killed by the Goblin King 02:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased ring of p'hul", on T:43397 (1 day, 4:58:18) 03:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance", on T:43425 (1 day, 5:00:25) 03:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) wished for "cursed greased mithril magic lamp", on T:43467 (1 day, 5:03:32) 03:36 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 04:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven helm entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:44744 (1 day, 5:54:32) 04:51 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:59 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:45254 (1 day, 6:14:48) 05:49 -!- mobileuser70 has joined #evilhack 05:51 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:54 -!- mobileuser70 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:06 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:45910 (1 day, 6:47:11) 06:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:29 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:55 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 07:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:14 utterly weird, I have no idea what just happened to my dark elven dagger when I was engulfed by a dragon 07:16 maybe it landed in water, but I never dropped it 07:16 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 07:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:20 I was 2-weaponing with the dark elven dagger in the offhand, but then switched to stormbringer 07:21 killed dragon over water, "plop!", dagger gone 07:26 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2724 points, T:2494, killed by a giant beetle 08:32 huh 08:32 today is already starting to feel like a monday 08:33 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:34 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 08:47 I'll need more earth scrolls to see if it actually fell into the water 08:51 wand of cold? 08:52 potion of object detection? scroll of detect magic? amulet of magical breathing? 08:54 object det shows a silver dragon corpse, have no detect magic at the moment, not going to dive :-) 08:56 maybe it broke, but I have a cursed lit magic lamp and there was no message 09:02 i wonder if there's some in light/in darkness shenanigans when engulfed 09:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:95550 (2 days, 1:47:00) 10:03 dragon corpse gone, looks like there's nothing else in the water 10:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:10 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:19 maybe that count as it hitting the ground and it shattered or something 10:23 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:23 probably climate change concentrating co2 and acidifying the waters so it just dissolved 10:24 Loggers_VIII yeah that sounds plausible 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:96675 (2 days, 2:20:13) 10:33 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:35 uh oh -- found Splunge level 10:36 demo and graz'zt 10:37 just your luck 10:37 i'm gonna get smoked 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Splunge's ghost, the former Kuge, on T:97041 (2 days, 2:33:50) 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Graz'zt, on T:97103 (2 days, 2:46:33) 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:97140 (2 days, 2:49:07) 10:56 well splunge let us see what you got 10:57 i hate having to leave the magic mirror and tsurugi on the floor :-( 11:00 so i guess you can tip crossaligned quest artifacts from one bag of holding into another, pretty slick 11:00 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:48980 (1 day, 8:37:21) 11:04 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 11:04 damn, missed krm26 finding the Splunge bones 11:05 well done dealing with that! 11:05 hauling the load back to my crystal chest now 11:05 gonna see how many wishes i can squeeze out of it 11:05 yay 11:05 cursory inspections makes it look like ive now corrected my extreme lack of death/tp wands, from 1/1 to buttload/buttload 11:06 result 11:06 splunge's ghost saved me, without him standing in the way graz'zt woulda had me for lunch 11:07 amazing! 11:08 oh, what did I get... 11:09 ah well, Luckblade out of the way 11:13 yeah luckblade never feels like youve hit the jackpot does it 11:13 i mean, it is great as first gift for convict, but otherwise 11:13 60 damage from kirin acid blast, it really pays to have acid res 11:14 you can have my dirge if you want 11:14 gonna stick with dichotomy/stormbringer 11:14 all broadsword all the time 11:16 DIRGE 11:17 so 1:1 wow and two magic lamps along with 6 /death and 8 /tp...verrry nice 11:17 I have expert dagger skill, I will want to upgrade my stormbringer to shadowblade 11:17 isnt werebane still lawful? pain to do that 11:17 no, it's unaligned 11:17 oh cool 11:17 eazy 11:21 ooh the marker is 0:89, nice 11:23 i'm having such crappy RNG this game, I would bet a BILLION dollars the castle wand is going to be 0:1... 11:23 it would be less if it were possible 11:24 Maybe a soldier with a blessed scroll of charging and a key can make that a possibility... l 11:25 monsters should just try to wrest from a 0:0 wow :-) 11:26 oh no. Somehow they can magically formally identify it with ESP and know to read a charging scroll if they have one 11:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:49451 (1 day, 9:00:37) 11:27 heheh complaining about lack of acid res worked 11:28 wonder how much ac i am losing sticking with the tunic over crystal plate 11:28 i've been sacrificing for dragonbane all game. Still have the weaponless conduct going! But somehow have managed to acquire Giantslayer, Cleaver, Mjolnir, Werebane, Firebrand 11:30 good thing i didn't break the conduct 11:30 nice! 11:32 dragonbane should be first gift for monks... 11:33 tunic is better than cpm 11:33 10 aum? for AC 3 MC 2? easily best armor in the game 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had 20 wooden shuriken entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:49595 (9:36:18) 11:37 the tunic is only 4 ac worse 11:37 better than another freakin melee weapon 11:40 saccing as monk sucks 11:40 there's only like two items you ever want lol 11:43 well i just thought it was changed so that you wouldn't keep getting weapons if you hadn't broken the conduct 11:44 i just want dragonbane and i get less and less sacrifices because i keep getting more and more weapons (giantslayer, werebane) when I have not even broken the conduct. I'm obviously playing weaponless 11:44 fewer and farther between *gifts I mean 11:45 i mean, the shuriken are fine. But i have no use for cleaver other than to give it to a pet 11:46 and other than a smock, dragonbane is my only OPTION for acid resist. it's not like i'm choosing to wear some better scales 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +1 iron katana on an altar, on T:6032 (1:58:29) 11:51 dirge! 11:55 hmm 11:55 am i lazy enough to wish for gray dragon scales? 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:6266 (2:04:07) 11:57 something bad is going to happen to you, the way you are bragging about all the excess wishes and wands etc... lol 11:57 nice job krm26 11:57 \o/ 11:57 something bad happens to me irregardless :-) 11:57 i'll never beat my very last self-kill on astral tho 11:58 the one good thing I have going this game is I found Loggers_VIII basilisk statue... 11:58 krm26: refresh my memory with a dumplog? 11:59 I've had a couple bad splats recently too (choking on a giant corpse, when I already had like 18/99 strength ntm +16 intrinsic dmg bonus) 11:59 i got to astral with a guaranteed ascension and proceeded to read 3 cursed genocide for woolies back to back to back while they squeezed the life out of me 11:59 for absolutely no reason -- was on total brainless autopilot 11:59 like without taming? 11:59 i had taming 11:59 yeah but you didn't use it? 11:59 my brain just said, now do 3 summons and tame 12:00 so i was waiting to tame until after the 3rd cursed geno 12:00 right 12:00 while ignoring all non-brain io 12:00 lol 12:00 rebatela, the "don't get melee weapons rule" doesn't apply to artifacts 12:00 i do that a lot -- brain sez do the next 10 actions without looking at the screen. no problem! fingers are on it! 12:00 loggers_viii: apparently not! 12:01 i found your statue though! thanks for the marker 12:01 because if it did, you would be able to get dragonbane as your first arti every time 12:01 no problem :P 12:01 THAT'S a shitty death. falling into pit the shambling dug while wielding the corpse. 12:01 oh man. I think i'd be able to laugh at that at least 12:02 not a whole lot you could have done 12:02 dragonbane should just be first sacrifice gift for monks :-) 12:02 i just said that! 12:02 see? i told you my fingers just do things and i dont look at the screen 12:02 dragonbane should be first gift for monks... 12:02 great minds (unless you're f'ing with me) 12:03 no i just wasnt following the conversation closely :-) 12:03 believe it or not i get a lot of coding done while playing evilhack badly 12:03 i COULD just wish for dragonbane when i get the wand, but I REALLY want to ascend with purity gloves because I'm so pissed about losing them just before lucifer last game 12:04 purity on a monk is just soooo excellent. must do 12:04 genocide black dragons and antimatter vortices 12:04 yeah i usually do 12:04 so you can be thrilled by destroying the gauntlets on an npc you didnt know was wearing black dragon scale 12:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:04 lol 12:05 i really need this wand to be 0:3... Sometimes i don't need wishes at all. THis isn't one of those games. I don't even have speed boots or a magic whistle 12:06 man dont wish for that stuff. kill some @npcs! 12:07 anyway, dont look! frivolous wish incoming! 12:07 oh god 12:07 i would NEVER wish for speed boots OR a magic whistgle 12:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scales", on T:97457 (2 days, 4:01:42) 12:07 i can polypile/kill npc 12:07 just saying i haven't had any rng-sa ghadsflk jghadsklgj hvj 12:07 you lazy motherfucker!!! 12:08 I hate you!!! 12:08 Just reverse genocide tg aheigewJK;LA;LJ; 12:08 * rebatela ragequits 12:08 i warned you :-) 12:08 i have one more stupid wish to burn, not sure what i'll do with it 12:08 might be a dragonhide robe 12:08 evilhack needs a swapchest 12:09 dragonhide robes are the shit 12:09 i have long wanted to be able to donate my characters when they are ascension-ready to somebody else to ascend 12:09 i never wish for them anymore because i usually need a dragonhide alchemy smock 12:10 The worst is that Smoky is halucination and I had beenj saving them for a while and had a stack before I ID'd and then when I ID'd i saved (last night) and today I forgot that they were smoky and water'd them all 12:11 my smoky this run...gain level :-P 12:11 (i forget what is smoky and rinse em all the time -- gotta name them!) 12:12 yeah i usually do! 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:50491 (10:02:25) 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided gray dragons, on T:50492 (10:02:34) 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:50493 (10:02:50) 12:14 kill em! kill em all! 12:15 gelcubes and shock spheres are already gone 12:15 disenchanters are my last usual one 12:15 (well, no particular order) 12:16 * rebatela looks for commit making all those things non-genocideable 12:16 disenchanters are just a genocide of convenience...gel cubes are a fantastic early geno 12:16 making shocking spheres...and antimatter vortices too!...non-genocidable would be...evil 12:17 i'd be ok with that 12:17 YANI: vorticies are off-limts to genocide until Gary the Vortex King is defeated 12:17 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 12:17 i usually try to genocide those things at like 4am on a sunday 12:17 k2, seriously -- there could be a mechanism where every additional genocide had some penalty attached or was harder 12:18 there could be, but that could devolve into silliness 12:18 evilness 12:19 i do think this: when you genocide a dragon, all of their scales and scaled armor should also be destroyed. no gray-scaled armor once you genocide gray dragons! 12:20 heh, i'm imagining u.n. keystone cops showing up when you genocide something 12:21 existing scales, no, that's harsh and kind of unrealistic 12:21 future scales tho, could see that 12:22 lol the keystone kops showing up if you genocide something 12:22 they hand you a strongly worded letter 12:23 It's already hard to genocide the important things in evilhack. Thank's to vlad, vecna, what's his name the e guy. and then a bunch of extra gnarly ones are ungenociable 12:24 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:25 does vlad gatekeep stuff now? 12:25 didnt know that. all vampires? 12:25 si 12:25 cool! 12:25 make tiamat gatekeep dragons. 12:26 heh 12:26 hah 12:26 that would be sooo cruel 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had an axe entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:47537 (17:53:12) 12:36 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 12:37 you know, i think after ive done it a few times that i can say the new wizard's tower is the first evilhack thing that i actively dislike. just way too much of a slog on the first level 12:37 it is like the gehennom reascent all packed down into a single set of rooms 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:97480 (2 days, 4:32:13) 12:38 i've only done it once, but i think i like it 12:39 do you really like Ludios though?!? different strokes... 12:39 i do like ludios, plus ludios is optional 12:39 and ludios is not nearly as dense 12:40 point is you have poor taste 12:40 j/k! 12:40 could be 12:40 krm26 there's a way to get around a lot of the 'slog' 12:40 not everytime but sometimes if the rng is nice 12:40 ive only found a secret door one time, and it didn't let me shortcut very much 12:40 ooooo there are shortcuts? 12:40 man, i thought it was fun. maybe it was the novelty of it though 12:41 yeah if there was a guaranteed shortcut through the back water that went into the room adjacent to the stairs it would be a lot better i think 12:41 i was totally kidding about the poor taste thing man.. I just can't stand doing ludios sometimes (it's unfinished in this game) and I've heard you say you look forward to it 12:42 just, at that stage of the game, it isnt a big challenge, and there are no rewards you're looking for -- it is kinda just a turn/time sink (imo) 12:42 if this wand is 0:1 i'm throwing myself into the moat 12:43 the big issue (for me) is that it is something you tackle once you are done with the "loot accumulation" phase of the game, so in a way it is all junk, so the vast amount of it is kinda bleargh 12:43 omg it was 0:4 !!!!! 12:43 (only speaking of the 1st level) 12:43 (wand of nothing) 12:43 hey grats rebatela! 12:43 thats a lot of nothing 12:43 hehe 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:48119 (18:10:27) 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:9251 (2:54:23) 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:48129 (18:12:01) 12:50 0:2... I can live... If i could just get dragonbane from God, I can make this happen 12:50 either that or accept that I won't have the purity gloves and just use my guaranteed artiwish for dragonbane 12:50 gg Shrigis 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:9501 (2:59:29) 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 cloth oilskin elven helm", on T:52250 (10:37:41) 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:48171 (18:17:13) 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of drain resistance", on T:52256 (10:39:04) 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:52583 (10:46:53) 13:04 keep em coming, Chih! 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 941 points, T:949, killed by a large spider 13:05 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:05 at some point I'll go "meh 60k turns of playing weaponless- i'll just start using this club!" 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:97514 (2 days, 4:59:43) 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the dark elven high priestess of Moloch, on T:48338 (18:30:59) 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:48340 (18:31:06) 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:48392 (18:39:05) 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:48395 (18:39:19) 13:17 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1668 points, T:1855, killed by a giant beetle 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) averted death (decapitated by a vorpal jabberwock), on T:48495 (18:52:42) 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 510 points, T:620, killed by the Goblin King 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:53839 (11:14:51) 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 1544 points, T:1391, killed by a mithril crossbow bolt, while frozen by a potion 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] mitsilvan (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1699 (0:08:43) 13:47 thank you mr archon! can make hammer of the gods now 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Saint Michael, on T:48731 (19:12:42) 13:50 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:53 -!- dingotron43 has joined #evilhack 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:97969 (2 days, 5:51:43) 14:00 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 14:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:15718 (4:13:30) 14:09 -!- dingotron43 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:09 make tiamat gatekeep dragons. 14:09 tiamat isn't guaranteed 14:09 i know! 14:10 that is what makes it great 14:10 you can always farm for her :-) 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided green slimes, on T:97972 (2 days, 6:04:45) 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:49410 (19:35:32) 14:11 why are vorpal jabberwocks ungenocidable? 14:12 uhhh really? 14:12 krm26 you can just levelport in the wizard tower 14:12 why is anything ungenocidable? 14:12 are you SERIOUS? never checked because i assumed it wouldnt be possible mobileuser 14:12 heh 14:13 if monks couldn't get weapons as gifts, they would never get any gifts 14:13 it'd kind of defeat the point of "oh no it can decaptiate me" if you could just genoicde it... 14:13 dragonbane cannot be a first gift because first gifts must be coaligned 14:13 (and unaligned artifacts are never coaligned for non-infidels) 14:13 i've been thinking about genocide in evilhack... 14:13 do you play evilhack, noisytoot? 14:13 I have played some evilhack 14:13 i think that every time you genocide a single species (so twice for blessed) the game should randomly pick an ungenocided genocidable species to make ungenocidable for that game 14:14 so you might genocide cockatrice and get informed that basilisks are now ungenocidable 14:14 or goblins, whatever 14:14 I am a bit surprised that elder minotaurs can be genocided 14:15 but not tamed 14:15 yeah 14:15 but you can make one with a poly trap! 14:15 they are AMAZING pets 14:15 I bet! 14:15 it'll probably get changed now 14:16 do non-artifact gifts increment u.ugifts? 14:16 if they do, then you can receive an unaligned first artifact gift (but not real first gift) 14:17 all gifts increment it afaik 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:49499 (19:41:44) 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:16729 (4:24:49) 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:98044 (2 days, 6:16:09) 14:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 7502174 points, T:49658, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Shrigis/evilhack/dumplog/1704900044.evil.html 14:31 " if monks couldn't get weapons as gifts, they would never get any gifts" whaaaa? Like i said, I don't mind the shuriken... But ummm no? I obviously want Dragonbane which isn't a weapon, but have also received a "leather cloak", wooden gauntlets of power, all sorts of non-melee weapon gifts exist. Not quite sure what you're talking about 14:32 nice another asc 14:32 dont worry rebatela, he's talking about a mechanic for granting artifact gifts 14:32 they would never get any artifact gifts, at least 14:32 besides maybe dragonbane 14:34 I meant artifact gifts specifically, but that doesn't seem to actually be true since non-artifact gifts also increment u.ugifts 14:34 so your first gift would never be an artifact, but any subsequent gifts could be dragonbane 14:36 yup 14:36 SO close to giving up on purity gloves (i ascended last game after LOSING them mid-run) 14:37 what xl are you 14:37 then I can just blow a wish on dragonbane (at least it's guaranteed) 14:37 me? 15 (although i plan to go to 30) 14:37 i'd rather use the wish on grayswandir (after getting dbane from god) 14:37 purity gloves are probably a bad idea if you want to stay chaotic 14:37 but 10 weapons later that's gonna take forever 14:38 yeah the gloves fall off sometimes if you're chaotic 14:38 yeah. i'm neutral but whatever 14:38 non-chaotic monk? blasphemy 14:38 and they fall off for me everytime i kill Master Po ;) 14:40 you oughta eat some wraiths 14:40 in a way dragonbane is better because of the acid 14:41 but i love that PW regen 14:41 xl 15 isn't great for artifact gifts 14:41 wait 14:41 XL affects it? 14:41 wtf 14:41 yup 14:41 i think you max your chances in the low 20s 14:41 the higher xl you are the more likely a gift is to be an artifact 14:41 i had no idea 14:41 actually i guess i did 14:41 but i assumed it was diminishing after 15 or whatever 14:41 no shit... 14:42 i mean... 14:42 it's not like i haven't been getting artifacts 14:42 there's a list of the chances somewhere but low 20s is where you want to be at minimum 14:42 for guaranteed gifts, I think 14:42 it's just that i've been playing weaponless and have gotten every crap artifact weapon in the game 14:43 oh plus d5 to hit with this garbage weapon you'll never use! 14:43 i mean, i know evil makes them better but a lot of the artifact weapons- suck? 14:43 yeah well. you chose monk 14:43 there's a reason i play weaponless... 14:43 no 14:43 he had to go and make all these incredible weapons by combining them because the vanilla weapons are so lame 14:44 plenty of non-forged weapons are awesome 14:44 in vanilla? 14:44 sunsword, demonbane, the brands, grayswandir, dramborleg 14:44 fire brand frost brand grayswandir 14:44 (in evilhack) 14:44 yeah 14:44 in vanilla everything sucks :-) 14:45 hey! in vanilla there's also excalibur :P 14:45 like i said he had to try and make shitty weapons a little better 14:45 how is grayswandir better in evilhack than in vanilla? 14:45 and then that wasn't enough so it's like you can combine them 14:45 ...ah i forgot, other great evil weapons are excalibur, stormbringer, dirge... 14:45 it's not, but it was so good it's still good in evilhack 14:45 it's not noisytoot 14:45 it is better in evilhack because you can dual wield with it 14:46 luckily you dont need a good weapon to ascend in vanilla 14:46 very true 14:46 grayswandir is unchanged from vanilla 14:46 grimtooth is a helluva lot better 14:46 it is not unchanged, because you can dual it k2 :-) 14:46 (than its vanilla counterpart) 14:46 a guy on NAO died to demogorgon trying to main giantslayer of all things 14:46 krm26 heh 14:47 the weapon *itself* is unchanged 14:49 i do hold onto them because it's fun to watch a titan with -40ac, casting reflection and healing for itself and touch of death for everyone else wielding +7 frost brand 14:49 i got them all the way through purgatory and then didn't have leashed for that portal back to castle 14:50 so first artifact wish is guaranteed, what is the second % these days? 14:51 1/n 14:51 1/(n wishes), not (n granted) 14:51 so when you make 4 wishes for your 2nd artifact and dont get it, dont throw 3 more after it like me 14:51 yeah i've seen you blow through wands trying to get that 2nd (or 3rd?) 14:52 my rng is the best rng 14:52 lol 14:52 if I KNEW i would get grayswandir , I'd wish for them both 14:52 so that second one will be 50/50? 14:52 (my math is a little rusty...) 14:53 yes 14:53 i'm gonna look at the weed store menu and take a walk and consider it... 14:53 do it 14:53 (no balls) 14:54 I don't hate altar camping, but when you get to 10 artifacts or whatever it takes forever 14:54 just wish for grayswandir first so you can still sac for dragonbane if you don't get it 14:54 lol it's not no balls... but besides that i could use that wish too 14:54 hmmmm 14:54 i'm trying to decide if that makes the most sense 14:55 what does the order matter? 14:56 oic 14:56 do pets in evilhack like to suicide by attacking black dragons and antimatter vortices like they did in hackem? 14:56 you mean if i don't get dragonbane.. gotcha 14:57 Noisytoot yes because unlike fighting something like a cockatrice where touching it is 100% death, the odds of being disintegrated outright are low 14:58 its also possible to make your pet disint resistant 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed greased +5 grayswandir", on T:59741 (12:06:19) 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +5 dragonbane", on T:59742 (12:06:32) 14:59 @e?neothelid 14:59 neothelid (w) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: acid | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: special | AC: 2 | Atk: 6d6 breath acid, 2d4 tentacle physical, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 6d6 engulf digest | Align: -8 | carnivore, swims, nopoly 14:59 (gottem both) 14:59 nice rebatela 14:59 can you get a tame neothelid from a figurine? 14:59 still would have liked not losing the wish... but yeah that was solid advice, loggers 15:00 Loggers_VIII no 15:00 boo 15:01 my explore mode guy failed twice in a row, knew something was up 15:01 K2: it's not possible to make its weapon disint resistant though 15:01 Noisytoot true 15:01 could give it the SoA 15:01 give it SoA like a normal pet owner 15:02 can i use mjollnir as the 'hammer" to forge ? 15:02 if its a weapon wielder type 15:02 ya rebatela 15:02 rebatela yes 15:02 any hammer 15:02 but ogresmasher cannot forge itself alas 15:02 I still have dreams about archons with ashmar and soa 15:02 sooo good 15:03 oh before i forget 15:03