00:36 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 00:36 -!- osmium.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.3 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/16izu25 00:36 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 00:38 -!- K2 has joined #evilhack 00:38 -!- mode/#evilhack [+o K2] by ChanServ 01:14 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:14 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 01:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2771 (0:32:25) 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3527 (0:42:34) 01:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4696 points, T:5109, killed by hitting herself in the face 03:21 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 05:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:44 "The oranges miss the Oracle." 05:44 I may need to be a bit careful with those trees :-) 05:49 mission "get more eucalyptus" failed... 06:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:13200 (8:11:40) 07:07 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:09 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 07:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11305 (1:51:53) 07:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a dingo, on T:11335 (1:52:22) 07:17 finally, 8 eucalyptus leaves 07:18 I should be able to keep my latest spider pet alive now 07:28 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:32 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 07:40 I think Aphrodite polymorphed into a gray dragon 07:40 the joys 07:44 ...and the next nymph looks to be a hill giant shaman now 07:44 who is going to smash the doors I locked 07:54 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:59 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 08:04 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:08 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:12 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:12 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:14723 (9:14:39) 08:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Client Quit] 08:17 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 08:17 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 08:23 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:32 gray dragon near the stairs, pretty much can't go back from 9 to 8 for a while 08:32 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 08:35 and the ranger quest home level will not exactly be an easy walk to the magic chest 08:46 -!- cbus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:47 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 09:01 -!- cbus has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:01 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 09:16 mobileuser: do pet spiders really eat eucalyptus? 09:16 only when ill, cats and dogs do too 09:16 oh i see nice 09:17 yeah they curse sickness for hero too, but i'm sure you know that 09:17 heh yeah 09:17 i've polypiled for stacks of them to bless and use as magic whistle before 09:17 (when no magic tools left to poly for whistle) 09:17 sometimes those damn whistles can be hard to come by 09:18 go the whistle, but zombies kept killing my pets 09:18 ah 09:18 * got 09:22 -!- dingotron has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5256 points, T:4576, killed by a white unicorn, while taking off clothes 09:40 K2 spider pets refuse to swap places if you're in a web, but they should be fine with that 09:52 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:55 maybe it is some other spider's icky web! i only like to climb into my own webs 10:00 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:08 heh 10:09 red dragon below, gray dragon above. this feels like a krm26 game. 10:12 oh the red dragon is in a cage 10:12 cancel that last remark :-) 10:16 argh even the doors burn my armor 10:31 gray dragon down, bugle for the win 10:35 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:36 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 10:39 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:40 still no available altar... 10:54 isn't there always an altar in the mines? 11:48 hi 11:48 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 11:54 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:55 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6157 (1:04:13) 12:15 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:15 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1554 points, T:2041, killed by a hill orc 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3154 (0:38:03) 13:06 rebatela yes, but it's a non-aligned temple, so not available for praying/saccing 13:06 yet anyway 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance", on T:28808 (8:15:25) 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide helm of speed", on T:28809 (8:16:59) 13:17 cross-aligned I should say 13:17 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:18885 (2:46:26) 13:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:25 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 13:25 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:27 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:28 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 13:30 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a steel spear entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:20304 (3:04:17) 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:29835 (9:06:51) 14:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Kni Dwa Mal Law) destroyed splungetoo's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:16856 (1:36:26) 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Kni Dwa Mal Law) had a pair of speed boots entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:17665 (1:39:07) 14:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 30329 points, T:19028, suffocated by a water elemental 14:35 Well that's not great. 14:36 the rng was really annoyed I guess 14:36 by all accounts I should have lived 14:37 also, I thought dwarves were meant to have high con? all these knights have started with con between 10-12 14:37 knights have bad Con 14:38 10-12 is better than an elven knight would get probably 14:38 Yeah, that's a role problem. 14:38 Or "problem" as it were. 14:39 race only matters if you hit their maximum afaik 14:39 damn 14:40 Most of a Knight's points go towards CHA and then I think STR, then after you get whatever STR you need to not be burdened at game start? 14:42 ah, right, cha 14:42 the best stat :p 14:42 Hey, if you want conflict strats what more can you ask for. 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 108 points, T:776, killed by a black pudding 14:43 conflict might be the only strat that feels a little too close to cheating for me 14:44 of course there's no such thing as cheating if you're using the mechanics the game gives you. but it's my personal hangup I suppose 14:45 There's far less reasonable hangups to have. 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:843 (0:08:43) 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:32132 (10:04:09) 14:58 agh no hammer at gtown :( 14:59 I think lategame I want to use ashmar+dramborleg. that seems badass 15:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:29758 (4:29:46) 15:04 k2 when you see this I had something weird happen yesterday when I got the "your skin itches" message from a random scroll (presumably destroy armor) when I was wearing nearly full armor 15:05 Loggers_VIII it could have been enchant weapon 15:05 I think that makes your hand itch, but Loggers was also presumably wielding a weapon at the time. 15:05 Were you? 15:06 I think that's hand itches, yeah 15:06 I think so. I'll look at the ttyrec 15:07 yeah, that's hands, not skin 15:07 I might have misread it as skin when it was hands, or something 15:08 brb 15:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:10 you could get that message if reading destroy armor while wearing CPM 15:10 if the CPM is chosen as the target, it won't be destroyed, so you'll get the default itch message instead 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a shield of reflection entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:30521 (4:39:06) 15:11 Passing that along. 15:11 Presumably the same for artifact armor. 15:12 yup 15:12 a high chance of it at least 15:13 Right, p. low priority but still worth a PR in my view to at least give a unique message indicating an artifact or CPM was targeted. 15:14 Says he was wearing DBane so high odds says it targeted that. 15:15 idk, i kind of think it makes sense that if there's no effect then you get a strange feeling. but i suppose the "skin itches" message does feel like it's meant for when you aren't wearing armor 15:16 fwiw it's "vanilla behavior" 15:16 Hence the ask for a unique message, I didn't say it wasn't correct behavior. 15:16 yeah 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:32912 (10:27:27) 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:32919 (10:27:35) 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:32511 (4:48:35) 15:22 K2, not that it matters since I'll probably be opening a fresh pad elsewhere, but the Etherpad says it needs authorization to access now and I can't get into the old one I used to have - I can still read the text and just copy it over. 15:22 Was just wondering if it needed like, dgl stuff or what. 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a spear entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:33926 (5:06:41) 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:34009 (11:06:42) 16:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:19598 (12:29:50) 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:37747 (5:49:28) 16:48 @?Juiblex 16:48 Juiblex (&) | Lvl: 50 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 3 | Res: fire poison acid petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 65 | Gen: unique | AC: -7 | Atk: 4d10 engulf disease, 3d6 spit acid | Align: -15 | flies, amorphous, amphibious, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, silverhate, passes-bars 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:39841 (6:32:11) 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39846 (6:32:19) 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed his quest without incident, on T:40111 (6:34:16) 17:14 @v?iron golem 17:14 iron golem (') | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 6 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Atk: 4d10 weapon physical, 4d6 breath drain str | Align: 0 | breathless, mindless, thick hide, poisonous, vegan 17:21 pulled a muscle in my neck/back pretty good this morning, still out of whack. hurts to turn my head 17:21 why i havent been on much today 17:21 bleh 17:23 Unfortunate. 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:7291 (1:18:54) 17:23 Here's hoping for speedy recovery. 17:23 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:23 You have never hit with a wielded weapon. 17:24 but here's vorpal blade! 17:24 I think you just rolled the minimal but non-zero chance of like, an actual artifact. 17:24 beheading is funny 17:24 maybe the funniest feature 17:24 Bright-side, means no one's gonna Vorpal you. 17:25 I'm never going to break the conduct because of a weapon Chih Sung-tzu decides to give me 17:25 how about of like, an actual artifact like dragonbane? 17:26 boo. vorpal blade go snicker snack 17:29 it's just lame to watch everyone else wear crystal forged scaled dragon pussy armor with their +7 artifact weapon and all this crazy shit, but I'm actually playing a role that CAN'T wear armor and get in on all of that fun, and i'm choosing to not use weapons, but i thought it was cool getting the shuriken or whatever 17:29 tired of getting old. this sucks heh 17:29 play a tortle 17:29 tortle = fun 17:30 no i get it. i guess i don't udnerstand the mechanics 17:31 i kept the conduct last game so i don't really care. i should jsut use the damn weapons lol 17:31 martial arts is better than any weapon monks can use anyway 17:31 melee weapon, anyway 17:32 I mean less armor = easier to maintain Dex bonuses 17:32 however, martial arts will sometimes do a million times less damage than vorpal blade :) 17:32 Which can compensate for lack of body armor 17:33 @e?giant mosquito 17:33 giant mosquito (a) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 20 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 1d1 bite drain con, 1d1 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, oviparous, passes-bars 17:34 umbire: huh? 17:34 You get AC bonuses/penalties while unencumbered if you're not wearing rigid armor I believe 17:35 oh cool. I guess i'm glad i got vorpal blade then! 17:36 you should be it's funny 17:36 lol 17:36 and hey, it's protection against vorpal jabberwocks if nothing else :P 17:36 for sure 17:37 i looked at it that way last game as well 17:37 I don't know if that's the exact detail but at minimum Evil definitely has a toned down version of SLASH'EM AC bonuses. 17:37 I also still maintain you shouldn get 17:37 moment 17:37 I also still maintain that as a Monk, you shouldn't get such a harsh to-hit penalty if it's in a school of weapon that you either start with or your god makes available to you 17:39 Not gonna get evangelist about it, naturally, but for me it's a pisser that you can train staff/spear/etc. in vanilla and certain variants but can't reliably use them in melee 17:39 it's also a crime you only get basic in quarterstaff. that's like, the monk weapon 17:39 this is the forest primevil the murmuring pines and the hemlocks. bearded in moss and in garment green indistinct in the twilight 17:40 oh that's evangelINE! 17:40 ? 17:40 i always get them confused 17:40 Longfellow, huh? 17:43 i'm more aggravated that i was really just sacrificing the corpse to see if i coujld make my first water prayer 17:43 and instead i got vorpal blade 17:43 I always hate when I'm saccing for luck and get some useless gift 17:43 so i thought maybe i broke the conduct 17:43 Yeah, but that you get used to lmao. 17:43 That is peculiar still, though. 17:44 the "won't give you melee weapons" thing only applies to non-artifact gifts 17:44 Yeah, I figure as much. 17:44 gotcha 17:44 because if it applied to artifact gifts monks would get dragonbane as first artifact gift every game 17:44 And most times most people don't roll actual artigifts that I've seen 17:44 Yeah, gotta at least work for the best Monk gloves. :B 17:44 yeah i'd be more upset if i got a wooden knife or something 17:45 hehe 17:45 i know umbire 17:45 the amount of fucking daggers and knives that Lolth gave me over the course of my con dro shenanigans was not even funny 17:45 but i love getting them from sacrificing vs wishing 17:48 i found early early speed boots AND BoH so i shouldn't be complaining 17:55 @e?gray dragon 17:55 gray dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 breath magic missile, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest, 0d0 passive cancellation | Align: 4 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 17:56 who invented that zoo minetown level? like which variant is it from? 17:57 grunthack, maybe? 17:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:57 Zootown woes again, huh? 17:58 I think that was lorimer's baby. 18:01 zootown is not orctown, boo 18:03 Ouiatchouane offers 938 gold pieces for your steel long sword named Vorpal Blade 18:03 i'll take it 18:04 It'd be funny if he'd actually pick it up and try to behead me with it when i go to kill him and take get my money back 18:06 I'dve kept it for a pet probably, though that's obviously a ticking time bomb. 18:11 i had it in my bag during most of my ascension game (again, got it from altar and kept weaponless the whole game) and I had 2 titans for pets but never really trusted either of them with it 18:12 things could go wrong really fast lol 18:12 Honestly on paper it'd only be a problem if you abused the pet you gave it to any. 18:13 the gigantic positive from getting vorpal blade even if i don't trust the pets with it, is that i KNOW some other player monnster etc. won't have it on Astral... 18:13 (unless they steal it from me) 18:14 they won't be generated with it... 18:14 I mentioned as much, yes 18:25 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:26 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:44 -!- SuicideShow has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:44801 (8:05:57) 18:45 -!- SuicideShow has joined #evilhack 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) made his first wish - "the blessed magic mirror of merlin", on T:46106 (8:29:37) 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide jumping boots", on T:46108 (8:37:20) 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 18033 points, T:8546, killed by a giant crocodile 19:23 aight... this girl just left for the night and i have nothing to do so I'm gonna play some evilhack... 19:23 * rebatela is a giant DORK 19:24 * rebatela eyeballs the realtime 19:25 Loggers you have like 2.5 hours on me tho 19:26 i kinda stopped playing really fast though because no one else did, but you have some crazy fast ascensions man 19:27 thank you for playing fast... not many people do these days 19:27 thanks :) 19:28 it didn't sit right with me that tariru had the best time but yet was not an avid evilhack player :p 19:28 haha 19:28 careful what you wish for he'll show up 19:28 but yeah i like that someone who actually plays owns it 19:28 I hope he does. I never got the chance to talk to him 19:29 though I suspect he's really bored with nethack at this point 19:31 Asking people to play fast constantly is asking people to burn themselves out. Best to let folks pace themselves. 19:32 no one is asking anyone to play fast, umby. settle down 19:32 some people play "fast" and they take their sweet ass time but it's "fast" turn-wise 19:33 You're taking me too literally. 19:33 heh billdacat 19:33 ...or...not literally enough? 19:33 that guy had some crazy turn count runs 19:33 Bleah, can't imagine what an Evil turncount looks like. 19:35 But yeah, more saying that speedrunning is (wouldn't you know it) a massive time sink. I don't know what Tariru was doing that he had that kinda time. 19:35 (Not in any derogatory sense mind you, just wonder what he ever got up to outside o' NetHack.) 19:39 i'm going to expose something and y'all can decide if it needs to be fixed 19:39 Go ahead. 19:40 depending on how long it takes... it'll greatly affect how much of a problem you think it is 19:40 i've done it before and no one noticed 19:41 hit me with it 19:41 hehe 19:41 forget i said anything 19:41 you'll see 19:44 hm alrighty then 19:44 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:01 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:47595 (9:26:07) 20:37 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:38 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 21:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:56167 (10:27:46) 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 2469 points, T:2280, quit 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:58148 (10:37:26) 21:38 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:59147 (10:50:36) 21:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:60111 (10:54:58) 21:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:07 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:61884 (11:10:51) 22:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:64054 (11:26:00) 22:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:65350 (11:33:55) 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:66393 (11:39:46) 22:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Sam Gia Mal Law) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:66630 (11:45:30) 23:09 qw 23:09 ' 23:10 qw 23:10 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:31800 (13:41:19) 23:27 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 23:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5707 (1:51:59) 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (woodchucks), on T:6080 (1:56:51)