00:05 Congrats on 0.8.3 release K2 00:13 -!- dingotron45 has joined #evilhack 00:22 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:22 -!- tau__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:51 -!- dingotron45 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:55 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 01:55 Why is graz'zt so fast? 01:55 @e?Graz'zt 01:55 Graz'zt (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 35 | Gen: unique | AC: -9 | Atk: 4d8 weapon physical, 6d6 claw stun, 4d6 cast clerical, 3d6 claw item steal | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 01:55 He's getting at least 3 moves for each 1 of mine 01:55 You burdened, or did he have a potion/wand of speed 01:56 I probed him. He's not fast 01:56 Keeps teleporting to me, hitting and moving away 01:56 often before I can get a turn in 01:56 Are you fast? 01:56 Very fast 01:56 Speed boots 01:56 Might just be unlucky then ig 01:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Graz'zt, on T:117659 (1 day, 18:04:33) 01:57 Not unlucky. Happened throughout the entire fight 01:57 I'll save now. Check ttyrec 01:57 Last couple mines 01:57 *mins 02:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:118094 (1 day, 18:16:07) 02:20 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:24 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Law) had an axe entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:37818 (10:05:45) 02:34 did you cancel Graz'zt Imanity? 02:35 Yes 02:35 But with only 12 speed, he was flying all over the place 02:35 he teleports away after each failed seduction attempt, like a cancelled nymph 02:36 I bet that's why he feels fast 02:36 Oh, that explains it 02:36 and that tp is a free turn, I assume 02:36 yeah 02:36 Yeah that'll do it 02:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:986 (1:27:24) 02:54 I suppose Archons can spawn in wizard's tower because it's outside Gehennom 02:54 Same as Vlad's 02:54 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 03:05 The bat picks up a yellow dragon corpse 03:05 lol whut 03:05 Think you mean batman picks up a yellow dragon corpse ;) 03:06 hah! 03:19 Full cleared all branches, up to and including 1st wizard's tower 03:19 Still haven't found a scroll of genocide :/ 03:23 not even with scroll polypiling? 03:24 Going to do that now 03:26 Will prob forge GoP and use the spell though. Don't wanna be held back by charges 03:35 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:49 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:17 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2305 (2:25:45) 05:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 05:47 -!- Imanity has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:50 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 06:04 Why am I being blasted by Shadowblade, as a chaotic rogue? 06:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +3 magicbane", on T:119655 (1 day, 20:01:39) 06:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1083 (0:05:08) 06:22 hmmm 06:23 Imanity it's attuned to drow 06:27 Oh 06:27 At least it's not intelligent 06:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4587 points, T:2985, poisoned by an orcish arrow 06:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) performed her first genocide (locusts), on T:2496 (0:09:40) 06:46 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Was hoping to forge it into AoR though 12:26 Maybe I'll just go HotG+Dichot+GoP+AoR. Basic is only -2 damage, compared to skilled when twoweaponing 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to him by Kos, on T:40274 (10:00:42) 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:40700 (10:08:22) 13:24 ~,' 13:31 K2: is there enough plant matter in the game that could be incorporated into Druid mechanics? Like, kelp fronds unlock eel-shape or something? And is that a massive burden to even suggest such a mechanic? 13:35 prob not enough plant matter currently, but that's one of the things being discussed 13:36 You've either already added or are about to add the plants from dnethack, right? 13:36 not sure we'd even want to rely on a physical component to do (which has also been discussed) 13:36 jonadab no 13:37 here's an interesting question - when you see a tree in nethack, what kind of tree is it? 13:37 K2: I actually wanted to cherry-pick a couple of the better dnethack plants, for FOurk, but couldn't decide on any specific ones that I wanted. 13:37 treant/ent will make its way in for sure 13:37 the walking tree monster thing from LotR 13:38 We all know what an ent is. 13:38 a lot of new monsters will make their way in via druid role patch actually 13:38 I suppose you could also have hoorns as a lower-level version... 13:40 can Ludios occur after Medusa in evilhack? 13:43 notdnethack has lots of ent species, some of which are identical except for the name 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:64524 (13:16:51) 13:45 the biggest hurdles so far are 1) druid spells and how they learn them (and if they'll be off-limits to other roles or not) and 2) druids natural poly form ability and all that entails 13:45 sorry had to step away 13:46 mobileuser yes i believe so 13:46 the druid polyform bit, finding the right balance is going to take some doing 13:46 K2: when I see a tree in nethack, its species is both apple, orange, pear, banana, and eucalyptus at once (like schrodinger's cat) until I kick it and get a fruit 13:46 it could either be too weak to want to use it, or too OP 13:47 Noisytoot heh :) 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create Shadowblade, on T:64545 (13:19:08) 13:48 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 13:48 thx K2 13:50 Noisytoot ever seen this? https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/living/tree-40-fruit-sam-van-aken-feat/ 13:51 i apparently have an ascension-ready tortle sammy i remember nothing about 13:52 errmahgerd it's krm26 13:52 \o/ 13:52 i live, kinda -- just in time to disappear for my surgery next week :-) 13:52 i think i missed an entire minor evilhack release 13:52 nah 13:52 oh and happy holidays/new years everyone 13:52 you werent gone that long 13:52 yeah happy new year! 13:53 sadly, ive been gone long enough for my ossifying brain to forget what the heck im doing in evilhack 13:53 YOLO 13:54 I hadn't seen that before now 13:54 your comment made me remember that 13:56 oh i see, 0.8.3 release, not a new .n 13:57 yeah 13:57 'official' release 13:57 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:57 as in no more updates to that version, windows binary now available 13:57 i knew i shoulda left ingame notes so i understand why i'm sitting in my stash clutching all these wands of polymorph 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:64848 (13:31:07) 13:59 Sounds like it's polypiling time 14:00 i think i'm past that point tho 14:00 i see to have already eaten water breathing 14:01 hmm 14:01 maybe i meant to poly up rings to eat polymorph control so i could try ascending without magic resistance 14:01 tortles can breathe underwater already 14:01 ^ not to be confused with magical breathing 14:01 right, but i can breathe without air...meant ate magical breathing 14:02 ah 14:02 my bad 14:02 nah you're good 14:02 some players easily confuse the two 14:02 so is amulet of flying + intrinsic poly control + purity a silly tortle technique? 14:02 saves me from death and poly but could still eat a lot of damage sometimes 14:02 but at least i wont lava myself 14:03 sounds alright? 14:03 i bet that was my punning clan 14:09 anyway, really sorry to flake on teamspl*t in tnnt, rl blew up on me 14:13 no worries 14:13 real life > online games 14:20 eh 14:20 i guess online games rely on rl electricity 14:21 Are any of the monsters in the new patch tentacle friends? :) 14:24 lol 14:24 dunno yet 14:25 if you're curious as too some of the ideas discussed, can view https://hardfought.org/etherpad/p/Druid_Design_Discussion 14:25 that doc was started years ago by aosdict, antigulp and myself 14:25 Will check it out 14:25 i dont agree with everything written there 14:25 but, it was good to just brainstorm 14:26 qt and I talked about druid quite a bit when he was at my house a few weeks ago 14:26 Yeah, better to have more options 14:27 i like the idea of several different levels of intrinsic poly control: first animals, then animals + vegetables, then any living thing, then finally what we now thing of as poly control 14:27 Same. Feels like keeping it to animals the entire game will fall off pretty quick 14:28 ad&d rules, they couldnt poly into anything super huge 14:28 Would be nice to have a more offensive #monster ability too, rather than another tortle 14:29 additionally druids should prolly have special poly treatment: always "wear" (i.e. never unuse) amulets + rings in poly form 14:29 the idea for druid polyform was that anything they're wearing would just 'merge' 14:29 and then 'unmerge' when back to normal form 14:29 no benefit but dont fall off? or keep benefits? 14:29 so no need to take all your shit off and put it back on 14:29 krm26 dunno yet 14:31 must have mushroom circle terrain object 14:32 (in druid quest) 14:34 heh 14:34 'shrooms 14:34 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:67513 (14:07:30) 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:67887 (14:16:57) 14:46 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:48 dichotomy is so great 14:50 NERF 14:50 kidding :P 15:04 So, rings of free action are iron, any options for a drow other than a shield of mobility or orange dragon scale mail? 15:05 gloves 15:05 to wear with your iron ring 15:05 rings go on the inside 15:05 hah 15:06 i'm gonna be wrong about EVERYTHING for at least a week 15:06 :) 15:10 elron Orange scaled armor 15:11 Only option I think 15:11 shield of mobility massively limits your spellcasting and twoweapon potential 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the orcish high priest of Moloch, on T:74147 (18:37:54) 15:12 Figured. Other option is to go with the ring and cast healing to deal with damage 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:74171 (18:38:29) 15:13 I don't even see that as an option 15:13 If you get even 3 mobs around you, you're fucked 15:14 Yeah, probably not a great late game strategy. Should be workable mid game 15:14 Maybe until you have some good armor to meld scales onto 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:74257 (18:44:35) 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:74263 (18:45:16) 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:37809 (13:52:10) 15:25 I am on a long streak of not getting what I want from Vecna. I'm going to be so sad if it's the eye this time (last game I wanted the eye, but...) 15:28 i doubt vecna is getting what he wants from you, either 15:30 If you disintegrate him 15:30 You can't be disappointed 15:30 ^ this guy soas 15:30 follow me for more 69 iq strats xD 15:31 where is the @evilhack tiktok account 15:31 is it @? i dont tok 15:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Saint Michael, on T:74582 (18:57:48) 15:32 how many blessed lev potions do i need for purgatory and planes i wonder 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Tal'Gath, on T:38413 (14:03:01) 15:33 I'd say max 1 for purg, 2-3 for plane of air 15:34 Don't think rodney can do his pit creating harassment on the planes 15:34 i'll need em for fire too 15:34 tortle 15:34 Oh yeah 15:34 no levi ring? 15:35 sure but lazy 15:35 and probably want conflict, certainly for all the purgatory @ssholes 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:74757 (19:01:42) 15:36 I tend to just run in Purg, avoid all fighting 15:36 shouldnt be so nervous, should just do flying/no mr 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (beholders), on T:74757 (19:01:51) 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:74758 (19:01:55) 15:36 Especially with beholders running around 15:36 yeah i just run in purgatory too -- conflict helps a lot with that 15:36 Does conflict work if you're blind? 15:37 thought it relied on monsters seeing you, not you seeing them 15:37 but i'm frequently wrong 15:38 "Also, the monsters affected have to see you for conflict to work." You might be right. Wiki only says they have to see you 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:74773 (19:03:53) 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:74775 (19:03:56) 15:39 I can usually run through just fine without conflict, but I imagine it would help to avoid spicy situations 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:38891 (14:10:35) 15:43 i live in fear of the wizard who respawns and instantly double troubles and yoinks your amulet in the first level of purgatory, where you have to root through ALL the @npcs to get it back 15:43 which takes so much time rodney might just repeat that feat 15:45 Always a chance 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) wished for "uncursed fixed magic marker", on T:143627 (2 days, 11:46:37) 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 2288 points, T:2512, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse, while praying 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 53 points, T:165, killed by a black pudding 15:57 No MR means the danger of the monster destroy armor spell 15:57 -!- dingotron85 has joined #evilhack 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) genocided gray dragons, on T:143658 (2 days, 11:54:18) 15:58 luckily tortles basically dont wear armor :-) 16:02 heh 16:04 although obv that just makes the destroy armor worse 16:05 i can offhand unskilled dramborleg for me i suppose 16:05 me/mr 16:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Set, on T:75140 (19:30:36) 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:75269 (19:32:54) 16:08 is there any slotless MR in evilhack? 16:08 For neutrals and chaotics 16:08 Idol/PYEC 16:09 phul is basically slotless for chaotics 16:09 Ye, since you'll be using free action anyway 16:09 But wizard might steal 16:12 he stole p'hul from me once and then FoD'd me right in the face. 16:12 damn 16:13 yeah phul is not great during rodney time 16:13 even though it should be UNDER YOUR GLOVES :-) 16:14 (evilhack solution: if ring is stolen, free bonus theft of gloves) 16:16 grease it 16:16 recently I was convinced that FA wasn't as important as I always made it out to be. I have a (dud) game in Hackem that I haven't had FA then entire game and I'm at the vibsq. 16:17 can't get further because I have no spell slots to read the book of the dead. 16:17 you need a blessed potion of amnesia then 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Mal Law) wished for "fixed uncursed magic marker", on T:144165 (2 days, 12:14:42) 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:75907 (19:44:41) 16:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Mal Law) genocided mind flayers, on T:144227 (2 days, 12:24:07) 16:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Mal Law) genocided electric eels, on T:144227 (2 days, 12:24:11) 16:27 I tried 2. It won't clear my last spell slot :( 16:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Mal Law) genocided green slimes, on T:144230 (2 days, 12:25:26) 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Mal Law) genocided two random monsters from class c, on T:144233 (2 days, 12:27:24) 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Mal Law) genocided basilisks, on T:144234 (2 days, 12:27:45) 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Mal Law) genocided vampire mages, on T:144239 (2 days, 12:28:50) 16:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Mal Law) genocided hill giant shamans, on T:144248 (2 days, 12:29:52) 16:35 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:35 hmm, what else is genocidable that summons nasties on slow slow tortles 16:36 assuming you got the L's then you got the worst of them. 16:36 vampire mages suck rocks 16:36 yeah just did them and hill giant shaman 16:36 -!- loggers_viii has joined #evilhack 16:37 hmm, are lava gremlins restricted to stealing intrinsics only at night like gremlins? 16:37 yeah I think 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Mal Law) genocided energy vortices, on T:144250 (2 days, 12:34:56) 16:38 -!- loggers_viii has quit [Client Quit] 16:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:39 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:42 lava gremlins steal intrinsics at day time instead of at night krm26 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a couatl of Mitra), on T:76300 (19:53:29) 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 3807692 points, T:76302, killed by Pestilence (with the Amulet) 16:43 rip 16:43 Nooooo! 16:47 oof 16:47 !lastgame Splunge 16:47 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Splunge/evilhack/dumplog/1703990324.evil.html 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1031 (0:03:32) 16:49 Oh, wow, Pestilence. He doesn't get that many kills. 16:49 cool, throne set dex to 4 and int to 9 16:50 what political party did it change your affiliation to? 16:51 I always just get a puff of logic. 16:51 looks like Splunge forgot to wear life saving? 16:52 bouquet: the "fuck this game" one :P 16:52 He had sickness resist. Terrible AC, but why did he die? 16:52 out of FH potions, forgot to wear life saving 16:52 the AC's fine, HP is stellar, I am stumped 16:53 -24AC is kind of shit 16:53 He was a giant but still. Nothing is enchanted except gloves 16:53 compared to what it could have been, yeah. but it's serviceable 16:53 Missing 15 AC 16:53 Loggers_VIII: the Nihlist party 16:54 if you don't have full healing anymore, getting surrounded by angels eats your HP very fast 16:54 He had half spell dmg tho 16:54 even still 16:54 that doesn't help against angels 16:54 Thought it'd be fine, especially with intrinsic hp regen from gaint 16:54 Thought half spell halved their missiles 16:55 I think it doesn't in vanilla but I thought it did in evil 16:55 pretty sure their magic missile storm bypasses half spell damage 16:55 Kind of brutal 16:55 Maybe only reflection reduces it 16:55 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 16:55 reflection doesn't do anything, MR reduces it 16:55 Ah 16:55 (reflection does reduce it if they zap it at you from range) 16:56 just use a cloud of woollies :-) 16:56 it's not really an issue in vanilla cause MR nullifies it. I thought that half spell worked against it in evil but I was misinformed 16:56 It says " Some missiles bounce off!" 16:56 Think reflection acts close range too 16:57 really? weird, evil must have changed that 16:57 Wish the dumplog showed how much damage each attack did 16:57 yeah I don't know what the exact evil rules are... 16:57 He shouldn't have died to that 16:57 he did have life saving 16:57 didn't wear it 16:58 okay, half spell does halve it in evil 16:58 so if you have MR+half spell it's just 25% damage 16:58 from this commit: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/08b519a7ed2d5c7d81dacebf938da17e08e6228a 16:58 ah so I told lies 16:58 tbf it's reasonable to assume it wouldn't be changed from vanilla 16:59 "different truths" 16:59 if he got surrounded earlier without FH, that's still going to hurt 16:59 for sure 17:00 I still think his regen should've saved him 17:00 who cares he's dead 17:00 angels just don't do that much dmg 17:00 yeah, but this is figuring out why he died 17:00 watch the ttyrec 17:00 good idea 17:01 their terminal is so tall... 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:75734 (16:04:56) 17:02 oh it looks like the helm of speed and the boots were enchanted initially, but got cancelled 17:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Tou Gno Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:38177 (23:27:13) 17:02 chromatic scales not, presumably because they weren't planning on getting them 17:04 I need a better ttyrec player. Going frame by frame is fucking impossible 17:05 ipbt 17:05 https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/ipbt/ 17:05 has the much coveted "search" feature. 17:05 Does it work on windows? 17:05 dunno. You could try compiling it. 17:07 No option to compile for windows. Manually have to, which requires unix commands 17:08 it's got some X11 code in there so probably not. 17:08 Yeah 17:08 might be able to with cygwin? 17:08 if that still exists. 17:09 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:09 Gonna take forever. May as well use a unix vm 17:10 Not really worth for this 17:10 ok I've made it to astral on the hdf viewer 17:10 Now to solve the mystery of the missing 540 hp 17:11 prolly just got beat up :P 17:11 His regen should've taken care of it. I barely ever use full heal potions on astral 17:12 and that's without regen 17:12 you also tend to do astral with -80+ HP 17:12 *AC 17:12 -80 HP would be very bad 17:12 regen is not that good. it's just one HP on every turn you don't normally get one 17:12 Only one? 17:13 Seems kinda shit 17:13 that's how it works in vanilla 17:13 I'll check in wizmode 17:13 your natural regen will give you multiple HP back per turn 17:13 Feels a lot better in evilhack 17:15 Still same as vanilla 17:16 Maybe it was the drider doing so much 17:16 e@?drider 17:16 @e?drider 17:16 drider (s) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 15 | Res: sleep poison | Confer: sleep poison | MR: 15 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 1d4 bite drain str, 0d0 spit webs | Align: -15 | genocidable, omnivore, seeinvis, poisonous 17:16 driders hurt, but not that much 17:17 @e?white horse 17:17 White Horse (u) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 24 | Res: cold poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d8 kick physical, 2d8 kick physical, 2d6 bite disenchant | Align: 0 | flies, regen, seeinvis, nopoly, infravis 17:17 of course, pestilence does a lot of melee damage 17:17 @e?pestilence 17:17 Pestilence (&) | Lvl: 40 | Diff: 44 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 100 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 8d8 touch Pestilence, 8d8 touch Pestilence | Align: 0 | flies, regen, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 17:17 Oh yeah, that's pretty meaty 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1205 points, T:2498, quit 17:24 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 17:37 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 124 points, T:783, killed by a fox 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 55 points, T:511, killed by a goblin 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 27 points, T:325, killed by a grid bug 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 54 points, T:273, killed by a kobold 17:59 dang. you can't set a trap on the upstairs. My cunning plan to watch a demon prince to teleport onto a landmine has been thwarted. 18:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:07 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:09 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3357 (0:21:57) 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 1518 points, T:3362, killed by a hill orc 18:17 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 183 points, T:969, killed by a hobbit 18:21 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 18:34 -!- dingotron85 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Ran Orc Fem Cha) murdered her faithful panther, on T:66928 (2 days, 15:58:11) 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:76589 (16:27:28) 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] splungetoo (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 47 points, T:293, killed by a newt 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:66961 (2 days, 16:07:23) 18:48