00:27 Fml, another game where I'll get early wishes 00:27 But no arch lich 00:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:31282 (9:35:50) 00:43 Imanity: You'd rather face an arch-lich than get early wishes? Are you going for some bizarre conduct? 00:44 There is an arch lich hiding in the mines. I turned bones on to hunt him and make mines' end safe again 00:44 Ah. 00:44 I would rather face him when i have the opportunity for early wishes 00:44 I see. 00:45 Well, perhaps the next game you will find a minesflayer. That will be fun. 00:45 Minesflayers are no problem in evilhack 00:46 You get the resources to deal with them very early. Even invisibility works 00:46 You can kite and daggerstorm 00:49 Interesting. 00:49 K2: sounds like flayers need to have their speed buffed ;-) 00:50 Also, why does invisibility work against telepathic monsters? 00:50 Shouldn't you also have to be mindless for that to hide you from them? 00:51 I believe if you don't have telepathy, they can't see you 00:51 But idk 00:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:33217 (10:07:05) 01:00 What the fuck 01:00 4th magic lamp 01:07 You can arguably do the same with vanilla minesflayers generally 01:08 Feels like you get way too few resources in vanilla. Even the chance of a shop in goblin town sways that in Evilhack's favor 01:08 at least by the time you'd meet a mines flayer 01:08 or have to confront one 01:10 Where's the sewers magic key chest? Been to where I think it is on the map, but it's not there 01:18 Wtf it's in the area you can't access without teleporting in? 01:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:19187 (5:50:22) 02:00 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:22 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:22 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 02:40 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 02:48 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:00 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 03:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:50 5th magic lamp 03:50 hello game, what is this? 03:55 heh sometimes you get those games 03:55 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2023-12-21 22:09 EST: K2 was that overlooked for shadowblade? <--- probably 04:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) killed Graz'zt, on T:66648 (1 day, 9:41:03) 04:07 DIRGE 04:10 xD 04:11 Almost got raped by air elemental. Wanted to find a garden for more smoky potions, but maybe I just use those wishes 04:11 Beats dying 04:15 yeah, spend those wishes! 04:15 The small mimic turns into a shadow dragon! You feel guilty. 04:15 uhm... 04:15 lol 04:17 wait do I feel guilty because the "small mimic" (shapechanger) was peaceful and is now hostile because of dragonbane? 04:17 yeah 04:17 it will remain hostile now 04:17 not that I care about alignment at this point, but... 04:18 getting a guilty message seems a tad unfair :-) 04:22 if I ever create a variant, the first thing to go is the attribute abuse system :@ 04:22 really, those "You haven't been exercising properly" etc messages are such bullshit 04:23 I think so too 04:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide shirt of decay", on T:39058 (13:17:43) 04:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 168 points, T:373, killed by a small mimic 04:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide boots of speed", on T:39104 (13:25:29) 04:37 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 04:38 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 04:44 -!- gdiist has joined #evilhack 04:44 -!- gdiist has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 oilskin toque", on T:39131 (13:32:29) 04:46 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of displacement", on T:39136 (13:33:59) 04:46 4/4 wishes :) 04:46 Good djinni 04:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3923 (0:20:03) 04:56 now that hothraxxa is absorbing all the bad luck, RNG is kind to us :-P 04:56 yess :D 05:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:67676 (1 day, 10:46:24) 05:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2497 (0:08:45) 05:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:67684 (1 day, 10:49:55) 05:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:9325 (0:55:50) 05:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 4615 points, T:3099, killed by an orcish arrow 05:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:13140 (1:20:56) 05:48 :( 05:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 987 points, T:1767, killed by a rock gnome 05:50 rip laccas boh 05:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 28619 points, T:14152, killed by a gnoll cleric, while paralyzed by a monster 06:04 rip lacca 06:11 Paralyze monster spell is pain :/ 06:19 no MR, no free action... 06:22 well, I've mapped the entire dungeon now (except the wizard tower branch) 06:22 time to make an asc kit 06:25 will have to switch to lev ring to make room for MR amulet, not looking forward to that 06:25 I'm taking my shiny new displacer beast on a shopping trip :) 06:25 nice 06:25 displacer beasts are excellent midgame pets 06:25 Shopkeeps always seem to die when he comes, but I'm sure it's a coincidence 06:26 lol 06:26 Yeah. Would've preferred a dragon, but can always use the rogue traps to re-poly him 06:26 monsters nearly always seem to miss displaced pets 06:27 I'm displaced too, so it's double trouble xD 06:27 haha! 07:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:43854 (15:26:33) 07:21 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:68659 (1 day, 12:02:37) 07:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:45499 (15:41:32) 07:25 Finally, a good weapon 07:26 Werebane now pls :) 07:27 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:27 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 07:31 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 07:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:68773 (1 day, 12:13:21) 07:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:68774 (1 day, 12:13:35) 07:41 No gift in the last 80 or so sacrifices 07:41 Starting to think gift frequency very much is affected by crowning 07:41 I don't think it is 07:46 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:47 looks like you have a better chance with perfect alignment and less chance if you have wished for an artifact 07:48 I see nothing there about crowning affecting your chances 07:49 lol the bonus for perfect alignment is extremely measly 07:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:55 Hmm, maybe I try again later 07:58 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:02 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #evilhack 08:03 Let's see... what did I miss... 08:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:68786 (1 day, 12:16:45) 08:04 hey VaderFLAG! 08:04 how are you? 08:06 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 08:06 Pretty pretty good, just beat cancer, so hoping to have the energy for nethack again soon 08:06 Streak of EIGHT 08:06 That just won't do 08:08 I'm glad that you are still with us 08:08 oh wow VaderFLAG I had no idea... glad you beat it 08:08 I had to avoid all things nethack for a while because I knew I'd want to play, but the chemo was giving me such brain fog that I knew I'd just end up dying in even more stupid than usual ways 08:10 Oh VaderFLAG hope you are all well. 08:11 Just got my clear scan yesterday, so in an excellent mood even though I have to finish out my chemo for another couple cycles which will suck 08:11 strength 08:12 Good luck to you. 08:15 VaderFLAG hey! 08:16 Hey hey 08:16 Oo Tortle Samurai 08:16 glad to hear you're cancer free 08:17 'so what did you do today?' 'oh nothing too crazy... just beat cancer, that's all' 08:17 \o/ 08:17 Yeah, exactly, gonna use that one as much as I can 08:18 I'm going to miss the best trump card of all time "Dad, why do you get to blahblahblah?" "Because I have CANCER" 08:18 heh 08:18 But not much. 08:19 while you were away, mobileuser was all like 'hah VaderFLAG isnt here, gonna do an 8 streak' 08:19 smack talking you and all that 08:19 was funny at first but toward sthe end was getting a bit outta hand. crazy 08:19 :P 08:19 bazinga 08:20 I was just looking at that, and then to end via an elder minotaur on dlvl7?? Wild stuff 08:20 mobileuser you better feel bad for smack talking me now, picking on a sick man like that, it's disgraceful 08:21 smh 08:21 he'll prob deny it, say he was doing dishes or some crap 08:21 being on top corrupts you 08:21 I'm glad not TOO much as changed around here 08:21 :) 08:23 LIES 08:23 lol 08:23 heheheh 08:23 VaderFLAG so your last asc was version 0.8.1 08:24 So I missed 2 releases, hell 08:24 Some cool looking stuff in there, I just hope I remember how to play 08:24 boat loads of new content to look forward to 08:24 Not that I should be playing 08:24 Can't help myself 08:24 why not? you beat cancer. play all you want 08:25 treat yourself 08:25 Brain fog gonna get me killed, some mind neuropathy in my fingers gonna make all kinds of typo deaths 08:25 mild* 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Trt Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:795 (0:06:39) 08:27 What's the nastiest of the new stuff? 08:27 Try to play the easy vanilla? 08:28 Yeah I should do vanilla first to warm up, but it's too late, the samurai tortle is already underway 08:29 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 08:30 what does the 'tainted' property mean? 08:30 drow poison 08:32 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 08:35 VaderFLAG start here - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/doc/evilhack-changelog.md#version-082 08:35 happy reading :P 08:35 excellent 08:36 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Sam Trt Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:1186 (0:11:11) 08:37 ah right 08:50 -!- gdiist has joined #evilhack 08:50 -!- gdiist has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:52 I just did #monster to hide in my shell and it said "you finish hiding in your shell" right after, though I still seem to be in it (-45ac) 09:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 68 points, T:46, killed by a sewer rat 09:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) killed the illithid high priestess of Moloch, on T:69024 (1 day, 12:38:47) 09:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:69034 (1 day, 12:39:57) 09:03 VaderFLAG I think it means the hiding takes time? 09:04 not sure, I've never used it 09:04 Oh I see finish the process of getting into the shell 09:04 yeah 09:07 yup 09:08 THis is what I mean! Shouldn't be playing, brain fog! 09:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Mal Una) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:1915 (0:09:52) 09:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Mal Una), 3998 points, T:2377, petrified by a chickatrice 09:14 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:16 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 09:16 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 09:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:19 Somehow I keep forgetting drow has it's own poison. even after I played a long run as a drow 09:19 There's no way to make a drow weapon shatterproof right? (besides darkness) 09:20 Lol me too, I've never use drow poison too. 09:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Trt Mal Law) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:3808 (0:59:11) 09:20 Lolth just dropped a tempting +5 tainted broadsword for potential two weaponing by my ranger, but I fear it would not last long next to my radiantly lit gold dragon scales 09:21 yeah you need to be in darkness 09:21 is the broadsword adamantine? 09:22 wow rangers can two weaponing? 09:24 yes. but not longswords (unless unlocked by gift) 09:24 skilled in two weapon and skilled in broadsword tho 09:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1641 points, T:2450, poisoned by a gray fungus, while praying 09:25 Sounds very op. 09:26 right now doing luck blade + stormy which is pretty useful. Plus 4x multishot poisoned arrows for taking out dragons/elder minotaurs etc from a distance, and silver arrows for undead. This all works pretty effectively. 09:27 Dichotomy is broadsword too, and ranger can reach expert at Shadowblade I think. 09:28 Dark elven ranger sounds really attracting me. 09:31 regular broadsword cant be adamantine. if its 'etched' or 'dark elven' then you know its adamantine 09:36 so dingotron the +5 tainted broadsword wouldn't break 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5140 (1:18:42) 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:5400 (1:20:44) 09:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2916 points, T:1771, killed by a jabberwock 09:45 i need to spin up my game again before too much time passes by 09:45 gonna forget :P 09:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:69222 (1 day, 13:06:23) 09:46 one down one to go 09:47 :o 09:48 May forget most of the things one day after. 09:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:2013 (0:05:43) 09:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:69247 (1 day, 13:10:41) 09:50 FINALLY 09:52 Nice 09:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2111 points, T:2618, diseased by an elf zombie, while praying 09:52 \o/ 09:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Val Gia Fem Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:69264 (1 day, 13:13:35) 09:54 The shambling horror is killed by the blast of water! 09:54 thank fuck for that 09:54 What are your horrors this game 09:54 ultra fast stealer 09:55 not what you want on the asc run :-) 09:56 No certainly not 09:56 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:58 I got one of those last game. It could leap too 09:58 2 spawned on first level of vlad's. Not a fun time 09:59 What's an ornate key? Don't seem to remember seeing one of those before 10:00 mobileuser thx good to know! 10:00 Used to unlock stashes which are shared between locations VaderFLAG 10:00 Oh it's magic, so can do the new magic chests? 10:00 magic chests 10:00 \o/ 10:01 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:01 cool cool 10:01 Oh no I think it would break. the full ID is "cursed tainted +5 dark elven broadsword of venom" 10:01 VaderFLAG: congratulations! if you find a bell be sure to ring it 10:02 are 'tainted' and 'venom' two independent properties there? 10:02 Tainted is temporary 10:02 wears off after a certain number of applications 10:02 hothraxxa I can't believe I didn't think of that, I sure will 10:02 so venom means permanent 10:02 ye 10:02 but can apply to regular and drow poison? 10:03 It applies both effects on a hit 10:03 until drow poison wears off 10:03 drow poison AND regular poison in one weapon, interesting 10:03 Be careful not to destroy it. I always do when I play drow xD 10:04 which monster resistance applies to drow poison? 10:04 sleep 10:05 Imanity I am not playing drow, so I think half life of that weapon will be short if I use it 10:05 Oh, yeah that's really tough to use 10:05 Maybe wait on scales/cursed lamp then 10:07 I don't understand, how can Lolth give you stuff if you are not a drow 10:07 ^ dingotron 10:07 ok, need to focus back on this game. $@# alhoon just appeared and summoned 3xdragon, elder minotaur, magical eye and more. do not want. 10:08 oof, good luck! 10:08 "What do you want to call this dungeon level? alhoon shitshow " 10:09 lol 10:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3456 points, T:2651, killed by a champion of The Lady 10:09 !who 10:09 mobileuser: [hdf-us] dingotron [evil] hothraxxa [evil] mightyquinn [evil] gdiist [evil] VaderFLAG [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 10:10 !whereis dingotron 10:10 mobileuser: [hdf-us] dingotron [evil]: (Con Hob Fem Cha) T:33279 The Dungeons of Doom level: 29 10:10 hobbit convict 10:12 "Lolth just dropped" now I see, you killed Lolth. I thought it was a sac gift. 10:13 confusing sometimes that Lolth is both a goddess and a unique demon :-) 10:13 yeah 10:14 can alhoons be canceled? 10:15 Doesn't affect their spellcasting. Only armor 10:15 Like liches 10:20 hmm in a trick situation now. dropped down to lvl35 and another alhoon is next to me. can't teleport. weak. no power to jump. down to 12int. Does alhoon care about Elbereth? 10:22 They ignore it I believe. Do you have a scroll of earth? 10:22 in bag 10:22 that might be worth the 2 turns though 10:22 Might be your only option 10:23 alhoon are speed 9. you have a chance 10:23 You could run for the stairs and levelport out fo there, but it'll take far longer than 2 turns 10:23 Only prob is if a wand of striking monster comes 10:25 do you have a ring of sustain ability? 10:26 scroll of earth was good idea 10:26 alhoon pushed away, I can eat and regroup 10:27 Should get some permanent alhoon protection after escaping tho 10:27 if you have wishes left, eg an oilskin toque helps 10:27 or tentacle polyform :) 10:27 heh 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] splunger (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:67375 (14:28:32) 10:28 ya. I should have wished that already. Naively thought I could kite the alhoons with jumping and arrow them down. Alhoons are hard to kite. 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] splunger (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:67376 (14:28:55) 10:29 lol I need some of that splunger 10:29 You'll have to face 2 at once+ chance of wizard in the sanctum anyway 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] splunger (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:67389 (14:29:38) 10:30 yes! had been playing a lot of illithids so one almost forgets what trouble mind flayers they are. 10:30 aye 10:31 at least I had the sense to keep a few blessed ! of restore ability in the bag. 10:31 why would alhoons not respect elbereth? 10:31 they're not humans, elves, or @ 10:31 (or minotaurs, or riders) 10:32 @e?alhoon 10:32 alhoon (h) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -6 | Atk: 1d10 weapon physical, 5d6 touch cold, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -15 | genocidable, flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, covetous, infravis 10:32 Noisytoot that is good question. Because 'evilhack' though, my default is just to assume the worst 10:32 and cancellation does affect their spellcasting, it's just that they're 90 MR 10:32 I expect they'd be an exception, being the hardest non-uniques in the game 10:33 Oh, interesting 10:33 So cancellation can remove spellcasting abilities from some mobs 10:33 @e?arch-lich 10:33 arch-lich (L) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 29 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -6 | Atk: 5d6 touch cold, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -15 | genocidable, breathless, regen, poisonous, covetous 10:33 it always removes spellcasting abilities, but it has to pass the MR check 10:34 there is no exception for alhoons 10:34 Never had it happen when wearing gray scaled armor 10:35 The only exceptions to Elbereth are @, minotaurs, elder minotaurs, neothelids, rodney, guards, shopkeepers, any unique. Alhoons are none of those, so they do respect Elbereth. It also does not work in Gehennom or the endgame. 10:36 I wish my pet black dragon had not stepped on a poly trap a few levels back. I guess I could self-poly into one though. Disintegration and stoning seem to be the only things Alhoons NOT resistant to? 10:36 That must be the caveat then, being in Gehennom 10:36 They can unstone themselves 10:36 but disint works well 10:36 Ya, Gehennom is generally where you are going to bump into most of your alhoons 10:37 Imanity: it does not remove your spellcasting ability, only that of monsters 10:37 Ik 10:38 Gray scaled has a passive cancellation chance on whatever hits you 10:38 so you'd think after so many hits, one of them would have their spellcasting disabled 10:38 I'm zapping a +99 charge wand against alhoon in wizmode 10:38 will see what happens in few mins 10:39 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Magic_resistance_(monster) 10:39 at 90 MR/level 25, they are immune to cancellation from wands (attack level 12) 10:39 Would the spell work? 10:40 If you are at least level 16 (assuming the alhoon is level 25) 10:40 That's quite generous 10:40 90/(100 + 16 - 25) = ~2% chance of success 10:41 at XL30 there's an ~15% chance of success 10:41 If you have the energy to zap cancellation at an alhoon an average of 7 times 10:41 it's prob better spent on offensive spells 10:43 depends on your pw, but generally yes 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first item, on T:17121 (14:08:21) 10:47 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:48 [hdf-us] [evil] splunger (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lolth, on T:68763 (14:49:02) 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Trt Mal Law) became literate by engraving "ring", on T:9178 (2:27:51) 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Sam Trt Mal Law), 12482 points, T:10190, poisoned by a locust, while paralyzed by a monster 11:01 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish chain mail entrusted to her by Kos, on T:48677 (16:01:41) 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:48620 (7:34:04) 11:17 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 11:19 just about had it with this forgotten training crap 11:19 so fucking tired of retraining 11:20 i even have mc 3 11:20 wering a helmet, get surrounded by zombies out of nowehere, all mt raining lost 11:21 k2, you wanted to know why i no longer found evilhack fun to play? this 11:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had a bone orcish spear entrusted to her by Kos, on T:50615 (16:10:33) 11:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had a splint mail entrusted to her by Kos, on T:51350 (16:13:27) 11:27 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 11:27 Fuck Kos 11:27 Guess I am werebane-less until lvl 26 :( 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 91348 points, T:49935, suffocated by a water elemental 11:33 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:37 hothraxxa it doesnt seem to be a problem for anyone else (if it were i'd be hearing a lot more about it). maybe re-evaluate your play style concerning zombos? 11:37 sorry you're not having very good luck 11:37 :/ 11:44 people are just afraid of you, k2... We all bitch about the zombies after you go to bed each night 11:45 now i'm gonna have to read the backscroll, but hothraxxa is probably right. F the zombies 11:46 I think they're fine. Get tilted about them sometimes too, but they're fair 11:46 Like yasuo players 11:46 afraid? pfft 11:46 that's silly 11:47 :: scrollback read... or at least enough for my 2 cents :: FUCK the zombies and retraining martial arts and losing spells. Especially as a monk if you are deep in the dungeon it can be a death sentence 11:47 even for a strong character 11:47 Why not use oilskin toque? Monks aren't penalized for headwear 11:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3944 (0:17:10) 11:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5133 points, T:3967, diseased by an orc zombie, while praying 11:48 that dumb ass hat is often my first wish 11:48 Same, if I'm not polying into a tentacle friend 11:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:510 (0:02:10) 11:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:53293 (16:38:17) 11:56 k2: how does my play style make a difference when you get swarmed with no place to run? 11:56 it's not like i have no experience with this 11:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4233 points, T:2102, killed by a gargoyle, while attempting to cheat Death 12:00 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 612 points, T:1148, killed by a mountain dwarf 12:03 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:04 2 shambling horrors at once. Don't even know their stats 12:04 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a dagger entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:732 (0:03:56) 12:06 [hdf-us] [evil] splunger (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:69867 (15:04:53) 12:06 [hdf-us] [evil] splunger (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:69868 (15:05:00) 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] gdiist (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a ring mail entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:19019 (15:33:51) 12:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 894 points, T:1281, diseased by a diseased elf corpse 12:10 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 518 points, T:1422, killed by a copper dart 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] splunger (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:70406 (15:14:37) 12:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:2194 (0:09:18) 12:22 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] splunger (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Graz'zt, on T:70710 (15:22:23) 12:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered her faithful nightmare, on T:4070 (0:20:11) 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 363 points, T:1537, killed by a large spider 12:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5316 points, T:4459, killed by a champion of Hermes 12:35 aphrodite on dl5 yikes 12:39 dumb ass hat ?? 12:53 hothraxxa I dunno, I know you have tons of experience. not sure what else to say 12:54 and yeah, dumb ass hat!? alhoon hat is great 12:54 and its stylish 12:54 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2625/source 13:02 i don't know what else to say either 13:02 if no one else complains then either i'm doing something that makes me more vulnerable, or i have a lower tolerance for this than everyone else 13:03 i really doubt that it's the former 13:04 I don't like EvilHack zombies because they have too low difficulty for how dangerous they are. If difficulty was still calculated by the game as in 3.4.3 it would be higher. 13:04 i've had several full games where i don't get my brain eaten by zombies (or don't notice it, at least) 13:05 I'm a bit worried about zombies recent jedi games in hackem but later it's still okay. 13:05 and you can always play illithid if the amnesia really bothers you 13:05 The evilhack is apparently more easy to deal with zombies. 13:05 terrapin: this doesn't happen every game or even most games 13:05 it's just really irritating when it does 13:06 Yes they're sometimes annoying but they are slow. 13:06 my gioant monk had most of his spells and training eaten *five* times 13:07 this time i was at 85% towards expert in dagger and 100% basic in long sword 13:07 all gone 13:08 Nah expert daggers can deal with almost all zombies I think? 13:08 the mechanic would not be nearly so bad if you could retrain at accelerated speed 13:09 xdminsy: when surrounded by four of them? you can only take out one at a time 13:09 five times is Too Many 13:09 chuck boulders at the giant and ettins ones and don't step next to the others, simple as 13:09 indeed, and this was when i had reached dehennom 13:09 i realize there are situations where you get surrounded/otherwise disadvantaged, but still 13:09 gehennom 13:10 trust me, i know what strategies to use 13:10 They get generated around you? 13:10 Meh bad luck then. 13:10 the giant monk, yes. there was a lot of mob summoning 13:11