00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha) murdered Tuchka, his faithful gargantuan spider, on T:24017 (11:13:39) 00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 104740 points, T:24017, burned by molten lava 00:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:5886 (0:39:08) 00:27 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:996 (0:13:01) 01:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:13229 (1:39:13) 01:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:14871 (1:56:14) 01:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:14871 (1:56:28) 01:47 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 01:55 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5325 (1:41:22) 01:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:16649 (2:12:14) 02:00 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 5790 points, T:5386, killed by a crocodile 02:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:12 Hecubus, messages please 02:12 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2023-12-05 18:31 EST: there's a chance of a forge spawning in vecna's final level 02:13 thank you Hecubus 02:25 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:53 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 1222 points, T:1455, killed by a mountain centaur 02:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23049 (3:06:28) 03:01 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 310 points, T:361, killed by an orcish dagger, while jumping around 03:04 mobileuser, you remember what the odds of an instakill from a Bane are? 03:04 In Evil specifically 03:15 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 1707 points, T:1283, killed by a system shock 03:28 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 413 points, T:726, killed by a copper dagger 03:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed Baphomet, on T:82506 (1 day, 12:43:47) 03:41 oh sorry Umbire, not by heart, I would need to code dive 03:49 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 03:55 mobileuser, whenever you can, no rush 03:57 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 03:57 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 2335 points, T:2264, killed by an owlbear 03:57 Didn't know wood golems could drop wands made of wood 04:02 Yep, object materials thing 04:02 even wands of wishing? 04:02 many golems drop stuff made of applicable material 04:03 That's what I was thinking 04:03 Could you revgeno wood golems to farm wands of wishing? 04:03 Or wands of death 04:03 you cannot revgeno golems as they are nogeno 04:04 if they could drop wows that should be considered a bug still imo 04:04 Sadge 04:04 Fairly sure k2 would be on that if it was vanilla behaviour xD 04:04 you can probably create one by zapping a wand of polymorph at a stack of wood 04:05 hmm 04:05 like elven arrows? idk 04:05 Or forcing golem creation with any pile 04:05 Iron wands from iron gear 04:05 like Umbire said 04:05 yes stack = pile 04:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4259 points, T:3475, killed by a white unicorn 04:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:82844 (1 day, 13:06:40) 04:35 -!- Imanity has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:38 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 04:39 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 4897 points, T:2775, killed by a leocrotta 04:57 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:903 (0:12:42) 04:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 05:03 !tell Umbire For banes in general it's a 10% chance of instakill. For monsters wielding a bane it's 5%. And for some artifacts there are checks for unique monsters to do grave damage instead of an instakill. 05:03 Umbire shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, mobileuser. 05:24 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 8125 points, T:3975, killed by a warg 05:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:2958 (0:53:11) 05:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1169 (0:18:00) 05:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1693 (0:23:20) 06:11 Hmm. Seems protection against shapechangers doesn't help with one's own polymorph. 06:14 Why would it? You need protection against yourself if you have lycanthropy 06:16 I suppose what I need to do is convince a monster to wear it. 06:16 Hypothetically. 06:16 Ye 06:16 Ofc won't work, but in theory 06:20 Fml. 3 hostile water demons. Must've been in about 20 separate fountains in the first 11 levels 06:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3867 (0:56:23) 06:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed platinum yendorian express card", on T:40732 (6:27:31) 06:29 I wanted to wait until castle, but this bastard lich forced my hand 06:30 So lucky it didn't ToD me 06:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:83336 (1 day, 13:45:04) 06:59 The giant zombie smashes down a door.  This doorway has no door. 06:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 879 points, T:2067, killed by a gas cloud 06:59 There is no spoon 06:59 o_O 07:00 at least neutral has some good quest artifacts to wish for :-) 07:01 Yeah. I always permaconvert is possible 07:01 *if possible 07:02 You lose out on the ability to throw HotG, but with half spell and sickness immunity, demon lords and princes are trivial 07:07 half spell for HotG? 07:08 -!- Imanity has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:17 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 07:18 mobileuser Did you drop polyrings into all sinks for a forge chance, or only those below a certain level? 07:18 all sinks 07:19 got 2 forges out of it 07:19 I usually turn them into fountains, but maybe around DL 14 and below, it's time to turn them into forges 07:19 Low chance of a wish 07:22 the only early wish I really needed was amulet of MR (found a magic lamp fortunately), after that I had nothing to wish for for a long time... 07:22 So ig forges are more valuable 07:22 yeah... 07:23 I only have 2 this game. Explored all branches up to DL 14 07:23 was lucky to get one extra at Vecna 07:24 Maybe I'll clear that branch this game 07:24 I feel there should always be a forge there :-) 07:24 I agree 07:24 fits aesthetically with the Vecna drop being an ingredient 07:25 Putting a few guaranteed ones in Purg is nice lore-wise. But not at all useful 07:25 Monster spawn rate goes through the roof after getting amulet 07:28 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:84549 (1 day, 14:46:17) 07:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:84551 (1 day, 14:46:25) 07:45 would it be cannibalism if I eat a samurai corpse as a samurai 07:45 nah... 07:45 Doubt it 07:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Mog, on T:42792 (7:40:41) 07:53 oh great i got my own bones 07:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) genocided shocking spheres, on T:84980 (1 day, 15:02:38) 07:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) destroyed NetSysFire's ghost, the former Inmate, on T:1675 (0:17:40) 07:55 I really don't want a shocking sphere blowing up my lev ring at the Vlad chasm 07:55 That would be unfortunate xD 07:55 You could always join tentacle cult instead :3 07:59 do magic chests have compartments like the dnh variant of them? 08:02 no. All in one 08:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3101 (0:24:54) 08:03 "You feel an ominous presence at your back." 08:03 whut?! 08:03 Rodney is about to hatch from an egg xD 08:03 lol 08:04 oh no mobileuser 08:04 you are in trouble 08:04 source diving says /* Make demon lords follow the player if they levelport below their lairs */ 08:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 3444 points, T:4090, killed by a water moccasin 08:06 god dammit. cursed towel 08:07 didnt know they'd weld to you 08:11 NetSysFire all I did was go back up the stairs, no levelporting 08:11 in any case. you are now stalked 08:11 according to the source 08:11 so better prepare yourself 08:12 !whereis mobileuser 08:12 Imanity: mobileuser is not playing. 08:12 Lmk when you start playing again. Wanna see what happens 08:12 I doubt I'm in trouble :-) 08:13 no demon lord on the level I went back to 08:13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciL7OKWSu10 08:13 I wonder if the message is intended in that case, or if it's a slight bug 08:14 heh thx Imanity 08:14 xD 08:17 better call saul^wK2 08:19 Polymorphing a mplayer into a rat :) 08:19 Feels good 08:20 Idk how he was reflecting tho. No amulet 08:20 No silver scaled armor either 08:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3259 (0:14:23) 08:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4361 (0:22:12) 08:35 mobileuser that can happen sometimes (no demon lord on the demon boss level) 08:35 no, Asmodeus was on the demon lord level 08:36 I went back up the stairs 08:36 and got the ominous message 08:36 it happens when you've had other demon lords appear prior, and when that demon boss map loads, it randomly picks a demon lord for it. if that pick was already spawned, no demon lord spawns 08:36 ah 08:36 but Asmodeus hadn't followed me 08:36 but yeah what i just described can happen 08:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 4561 points, T:4751, killed by an orcish arrow 08:37 What happens if a demon lord follows? Do they appear by your side, or is it a chance to appear each turn? 08:37 now I wonder what the purpose of the message "You feel an ominous presence at your back." was? 08:38 -!- Loggers has joined #evilhack 08:38 a warning not to levelport past? 08:38 no, you are already stalked it says in the source 08:38 if (stalked) 08:38 You("feel an ominous presence at your back."); 08:38 so why didn't he follow me then if I'm stalked 08:39 we need to get terrapin in this discussion heh 08:39 i tested it briefly but not enough it seems 08:40 mobileuser - what happened *exactly* 08:40 or perhaps I'm now stalked, but he will only appear if I levelport past him 08:40 yeha i think that's how it works 08:40 go to Asmodeus level, go back up the stairs, get message, that's all that happened 08:40 yes, it’s only if you levelport past 08:41 ah right 08:41 That message might just be in to tell you he’s been added to the migratory list? 08:41 ^ 08:42 we may want to revist the messages 08:47 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 08:50 Welcome to experience level 30 08:51 woohoo, TH-boost! 08:51 only +5 actually 08:56 mobileuser I worked on that to-hit formula last night 08:56 i have it dialed in, just need to commit 08:59 qt helped me with it, was having a bit of trouble with the formula to make it do what I wanted 09:01 so before, going from exp level 2 to 20, the player would get an extra point to-hit (this is just from level up), and then going to 21 all the way up to 29, nothing, then a big +5 boost at level 30 09:01 with the incoming commit, it's still the same going from 2 to 20, and then from 20 to 30 you get an extra point every 2 levels, and still get the boost at exp lvl 30 09:02 overall you gain an extra 5 points to-hit making it to 30 vs before 09:02 the one point bumps between 20 and 30 occur at 22/24/26/28/30 09:03 it doesnt sound like much, but an extra 5 points added to-hit is actually a big deal 09:04 that’s actually very cool 09:04 Is that for all roes? 09:04 *roles 09:04 yes 09:04 pog 09:04 applies to everyone regardless of race/role 09:04 TH from gaining levels dropping off like that was always a bit weird to me especially with the level 30 boost 09:04 No one will ever dodge my tentacles again :D 09:05 i'll push it later today and make it live 09:05 -!- Loggers has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:05 work has gotten busier since a couple weeks ago, cant slack off as much as i'd like :P 09:06 yay noice K2 09:06 good news for the dex impaired races :-) 09:12 Think you, terrapin and I are playing races with 10 dex cap xD 09:13 and Loggers! 09:14 Nice, he's joining the race 09:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:85446 (1 day, 15:37:52) 09:20 Asmodeus just migrated to hell 09:20 xD 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Gia Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pair of boots called elven on an altar, on T:10860 (4:45:31) 09:25 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 09:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:29 what's a funny race/role combo to play 09:30 Orc wizard xD 09:30 what am I a streaker 09:31 hm what's unascended 09:33 oh wow, only 2 more unascended combos left. sam trt (mobileuser's got that covered) and lawful trt monk 09:33 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Gia Mal Cha) destroyed Scringe the dwarf zombie, and former Adept, on T:11062 (4:56:28) 09:35 unascended should count ending alignment again that was fun 09:42 hothraxxa why didn't you go for lawful tortle monk? (since that's unascended) 09:52 -!- Imanity has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:10 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 10:16 mobileuser: my attempts at tortle have been less than successful and i have two evilhack giant monk astral splats, so i have something to prove 10:16 btw where are the magic chest keys? i assume one at mine's end 10:17 mines' end, gollum, and ludios 10:17 gollum. damn i chose to not go there 10:17 gollum's is on the rightmost island so you need a way to cross the water though 10:17 these bones left me water walkers 10:17 and an amulet of flying 10:17 oh neat! 10:18 i hear the stalking messages are not terribly helpful? 10:18 and a magic lamp and two markers (o:84 and 0:86) 10:18 o: indeed 10:18 Woah. Who left all that? 10:18 scringe the dwarven priest 10:19 oh and a holy water 10:19 and unholy water and an oilskin sack 10:19 !lastgame Scringe 10:19 Imanity: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Scringe/evilhack/dumplog/1701804462.evil.html 10:19 wasn't the last game 10:19 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Scringe/evilhack/dumplog/1701719868.evil.html 10:20 i am sad one of these bags wasn't holding 10:20 well both weren't 10:20 Oh he got NetSysFire's bones 10:20 that's why he has so much loot 10:20 yes 10:21 also willisllama 10:21 Yes, and his own 10:21 3 bones worth of loot 10:21 I am so tempted to turn bones on :( 10:22 i have a much better chance at ascending for sure 10:22 otoh it's a giant monk 10:22 i need mr 10:23 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:23 May as well use that magic lamp 10:23 maybe. not my style, the first magic lamp is light 10:24 I die with magic lamps too often, and often would've wished for something that meant I wouldn't be in the situation which killed me in the first place 10:24 Extra AC, MR, etc 10:25 giant monks have limited options for mr 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:5397 (1:22:43) 10:25 esp chaotic like me 10:25 If you're not polymorphing 10:25 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 10:25 What about ring of p'uul 10:25 or whatever it's called 10:25 convincing people to use their magic lamps for wishes instead of permalight means less bones lamps 10:25 oh right, forgot about that. will consider 10:26 But they might wish for artifacts, and bypass the 1 guaranteed rule ;) 10:26 ring of p'hul is the only early artiwish i will make in evil. it's just so good 10:26 yeah it's lawful giant that has the MR problem 10:27 chaotic, you're good 10:27 this is really tempting 10:27 pyec for neutral is good too especially as tortle 10:28 I wished for EotA on my giant priest asc last game 10:28 as chaotic now I think I'd prefer shirt of liberation over phul 10:28 Extra spell power regen was so good 10:28 (but of course hothraxxxa's giant) 10:28 just get gopur for spell power 10:28 Doesn't that only give a boost in spell power? 10:28 when invoked 10:28 no 10:29 regen 10:29 it has the same regen buff as eota 10:29 Oh, gauntlets of purity 10:29 the mitre is the invoke for boost one 10:29 I'm way too paranoid about shocking spheres 10:30 They've fucked me a few times 10:30 never again 10:30 heh 10:30 gopur sounds like some washing up liquid brand 10:30 even dusted artifact rings? 10:31 I think they have a chance of resisting 10:31 True mobileuser xD 10:31 they sure do. 90% unless evil changes that which i doubt 10:32 I've genocided shocking spheres now that I have gopur :-) 10:32 but with non-metallic gloves it's not a problem really 10:32 Yeah 10:32 i'm missing something. what do shocking spheres do to gauntlets? 10:32 the rings 10:32 they can destroy your rings if you're wearing metallic gloves 10:33 well i thought they could always destroy rings 10:33 nope 10:33 soft material gloves protect 10:34 this is an evilhack thing, yes? 10:34 also in 3.7 10:34 i think a 3.7 thing? 10:34 oh 3.7. i am unfamiliar with the variant known as 3.7 10:34 latest update of vanilla 10:34 well not yet 10:35 not live yet, but the beta has been on hardfought for quite a while 10:35 it's the only current variant i haven't ascended. hmm 10:36 i promised k2 i'd give evilhack a shot so that will have to wait 10:37 i'll probably die to some evilhack thing i'm not yet aware of 10:38 You can't get engulfed as a giant, so are relatively safe 10:39 whats not live yet? 10:39 3.7 final version I guess 10:39 3.7 hasn't released yet, they're talking about 10:39 Ye 10:39 ok 10:39 yeah non metallic gloves will protect worn rings 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6106 (1:37:35) 10:40 'fixed' or inherently fooproof rings will resist 10:40 but still have a chance of blowing up 10:40 wielding tempest will protect all inventory from shock damage 10:40 mobileuser yeah 10:40 i have gauntlets of protection, which i think are cloth 10:40 yup those cant be metal 10:41 default cloth but can be leather or dragonhide 10:41 So if you fooproof rings, they can't be destroyed even if you're wearing metal? 10:41 they can but they'll resist 10:41 2/3 chance of resisting 10:41 Oh, so lower chance then 10:42 no... metal gloves dont increase the odds, they just dont protect rings at all 10:42 I mean in general 10:42 ok 10:42 still too risky when you're levitating in Vlad's cave :-) 10:42 roll the bones, coward :) 10:42 geno shocking spheres and energy vorties 10:42 :P 10:42 (sp) 10:42 grid bugs too xd 10:43 i cant spell 10:43 k2 you should increase grid bugs' level so they destroy rings and wands :) 10:43 hah 10:43 nooo 10:43 add grid beetles 10:44 Team a don't just want to kill you 10:44 they want to destroy your will to live :) 10:44 grid fatal errors 10:44 some variants have nasty x-type monsters that will destroy your rings and wands 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:11724 (6:07:36) 10:45 mobileuser, do you have feedback on the stalking messages? the ominous presence message was there because i wanted to tell the player that *something* had happened (namely that teleporting below the lair would bring the demon lord along), but I could see how the wording would be confusing 10:46 I was suprised I got that message just by walking back up the stairs 10:46 so you think it would be less confusing if there was no message? 10:47 yeah, or some other message, but not sure what would be a good one 10:48 okay. thanks! 10:52 -!- Imanity has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:52 so i'm flying but over land next to water. i hit a piranha. 10:52 You pummel the piranha! You kill the piranha! 10:52 The wand called CANCELLATION rusts! 10:52 why? 10:52 it dropped a wand of cancellation and it rusted 10:52 death drop from piranha landed in water 10:52 ah. 10:53 that would explain why mine aren't rusty 10:53 should have thought of that 10:55 the one ring is nice to have early 10:57 maybe a bit less so for giant monk, stealth won't work and you get searching at level 9 anyway 11:03 i'm a giant. we're the anti-stealth 11:06 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/bc96a2012db8...dc9c5feee573 11:06 [EvilHack] k21971 dc9c5fe - Fix: to-hit formula for player experience levels 21 to 29 inclusive. 11:08 ^ this is live, if playing, save/reload to get the fix 11:36 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin opened pull request #164: Tweaks to dlords following levelports - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/164 11:36 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:43 terrapin nice 11:43 one minor tweak if i may suggest 11:44 sure 11:44 if (!Deaf) You_hear("demonic laughter."); else You_feel(""); 11:44 oh right. thanks! 11:44 o/ 11:51 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 11:52 alrighty, fixed 11:53 oops, build fails 11:53 dog.c: In function ‘losedogs’: 11:53 dog.c:430:56: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘}’ token 11:53 430 | You_feel("a forboding force surround you.") 11:53 | ^ 11:53 | ; 11:53 431 | } 11:53 | ~ 11:53 dammit 11:53 no worries, i've done it before several times 11:53 no change is too small to screw up! 11:56 all checks have passed \o/ 12:00 How useful is an aklys of venom for pre-gehennom? 12:01 that sounds like fun 12:01 Yes xD 12:01 several monsters pre-gehennom do not have poison res 12:02 Wondering if I should just make an aklys of frost instead, so it's somewhat useful in gehennom 12:10 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:21 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:37 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/dc9c5feee573...f5c9b00caaae 12:37 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 1664bdc - Tweaks to dlords following levelports 12:37 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin e9a3464 - Tweak to previous commit 12:37 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin a86d3f7 - semicolon 12:37 [EvilHack] k21971 f5c9b00 - Merge pull request #164 from saltwaterterrapin/master 12:38 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 12:40 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/f5c9b00caaae...4330f27c909c 12:40 [EvilHack] k21971 4330f27 - Update changelog. 12:51 terrapin your updates are live 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:73611 (20:57:24) 13:17 my TH went up again, thx K2 :-) 13:25 What's the highest potential damage weapon against vampires? 13:25 HotG? 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3785 (0:41:32) 13:34 hmm. +7 HotG does (5.5 base + 7 enchantment) * 2 + 10.5 silver = 35.5. +7 dichotomy does (5 base + 7 enchantment) * (1 base + 1.5 fire vuln * 2 no fire/cold resist) = 12 * 4 = 48. 13:34 wow, i thought it would be much closer 13:34 Damn, almost 40% more 13:35 oh, and add another 3*4 for crystal 13:35 60 total, geez 13:35 also doesn't consider explosions 13:36 Can dichotomy be a special exception for priests K2 :3 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:4153 (0:45:48) 13:37 speaking of runeswords, it's weird that both they and elven broadswords are called "runed broadswords" when unIDed 13:37 ye 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 3315 points, T:4644, killed by an Uruk-hai 14:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) genocided disenchanters, on T:86057 (1 day, 16:22:54) 14:09 two doppelgangers in the sokoban zoo that turned into covetous monsters 14:12 Air elemental is chasing you xD 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:10695 (3:12:46) 14:17 yeah, i've been playing so much tnnt i forgot how scary they are 14:17 Surprised you were able to handle both so well 14:17 I had to polymorph mine 14:18 monks do crazy damage around sokoban 14:19 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 30273 points, T:13807, killed by a displacer beast 14:19 their skill is close to max and other roles probably haven't had time to enchant weapons at that stage 14:19 Ah 14:20 those will be really nice bones but that arch-lich will make you work for them 14:20 That arch lich is killing everyone recently :/ 14:20 oof :( 14:20 there's a nasty mob down there and i was displaced off the stairs 14:20 i blame scringe 14:21 Someone tell Loggers and he'll clean it up \o/ 14:21 i never had a chance once i went downstairs 14:22 if i'd landed on the stairs i could have survived 14:22 Gonna need a scroll of earth and MR 14:22 Aklys should be enough 14:23 scringe the revenant was on the stairs. i teleported him away but never made it to the stairs 14:26 shit, didn't even notice i was slowed by a magical eye 14:26 what a panorama 14:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Mog, on T:52274 (12:17:39) 14:27 2/5 :P 14:27 Come on Mog. Give the good one pls 14:30 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:30 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 14:33 oof 14:33 !who 14:33 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil] :: [hdf-eu] Imanity [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 14:33 i wonder if grouchy has tried his game again 14:34 he had a crash bug back in october, qt just recently fixed it so he can resume. sent a msg but no reply 14:34 monster steed issue 14:36 Imanity, no dichotomy for priests :P 14:36 mobileuser yay \o/ 14:36 :( 14:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Mog, on T:53814 (12:31:00) 14:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) became Mog's Envoy of Balance, on T:54028 (12:38:52) 14:48 That was quick 14:48 4 corpses into a prayer 14:52 hothraxxa Did the arch lich summon a displacer beast and magical eye? 14:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law), 37814 points, T:11166, diseased by a unicorn horn 15:10 doh 15:10 oops 15:11 don't see that every day 15:11 Yeah 15:11 terrapin what lead up to that? 15:11 got zombified, used my unihorn, but a doppelganger master lich in sokoban must have cursed it 15:11 (it wasn't BUC IDed at the time) 15:12 :( 15:19 Imanity: i don't know. summoned something but i didn't see what 15:19 is that mines arch lich bones still killing people 15:20 yes 15:20 lol. it has been wreaking havoc for a few days now 15:20 scringe the revenant was on the stairs instead of me 15:21 telpeorted him away but never got to the stairs 15:21 yeah now there's a bunch of revenants on that level too hm 15:21 i forget which variant removed that shit 15:21 scary 15:21 i never had a chance because of that 15:22 I might give that DL a shot if it still exists after I'm done with this char 15:23 vorpy here in a store but it's cursed 15:23 if I get a chance later I might try and deal with it. it seems to be malevolent 15:24 ya think? 15:24 certainly could be friendlier 15:24 xD 15:24 heh 15:24 I love it when vorpal generates early 15:25 Peace of mind that you won't get beheaded in purg/astral 15:25 also if you're neutral, can unlock a skill with crowning 15:25 get broadsword for dichotomy or something 15:25 aye 15:25 i'm a chaotic monk 15:25 I don't think stormbringer/excalibur randomly generate 15:26 Never seen them 15:26 I might be wrong about stormbringer, but I've literally never seen it randomly in my thousands of accumulated playing hours 15:26 You could permaconvert hothraxxa 15:26 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:26 If there's an altar 15:26 chaotic's the best alignment anyway 15:26 kill eeeveryone 15:26 Why? 15:26 Hmm 15:27 the murder penalties annoy me too much on lawful/neutral 15:27 I just hold off on killing anyone until I have a strong pet 15:27 lawful is probably the best if you aren't worried about that 15:27 you get gopur and the extra buff from it 15:27 plus hotg is good 15:28 excal too. lawfuls kind of are great in evil 15:28 One downside to neutral, is the blast damage from hotg 15:28 Tried throwing it against lucifer. Bad idea xD 15:29 yeah I did that once as non-lawful lol. it hurt more than I thought it would 15:29 yeah, you get hit twice per throw 15:29 it's unintuitive, but probably too fiddly to change, and technically consistent 15:30 Blasting anyone except lawful makes sense 15:31 the blast itself is normal but it just surprised me it hit twice 15:48 8 of the potions of extra healing mix with one of the potions of gain energy... 15:48 BOOM!  They explode! 15:48 typical 15:48 and it's always 3 or 4 which become full healing :( 15:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2540 points, T:2256, killed by a pony 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:2027 (0:45:32) 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2511 (1:33:57) 16:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 849 points, T:1431, killed by a wooden crossbow bolt 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 696 points, T:2363, killed by an invisible rabid dog 16:12 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2789 (1:42:00) 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:74568 (21:14:41) 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:2006 (0:12:35) 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Gia Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3126 (1:50:56) 16:21 so much for weaponless 16:21 and for pets 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) had 14 silver shuriken entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:3632 (1:09:01) 16:22 that was only my second sacrifice 16:22 * hothraxxa checks to be sure he's playing evilhack 16:22 lol 16:23 where's my cloth armor? 16:23 lol 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3870 (1:12:13) 16:28 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 86148 points, T:27397, killed by a snake 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a goblin shaman corpse, on T:4429 (1:25:18) 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:4956 (1:30:32) 16:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:57492 (14:07:19) 16:44 Wand of death didn't even bounce to me. Lucky 16:46 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:2768 (0:13:03) 16:46 "You can't unlock such a container with a mundane ornate key." <-- this sounds odd to me; ornate keys are by definition not mundane 16:46 maybe "with a mere ." ? 16:47 still doesn't quite work with skeleton keys then, though 16:47 just do "you can't unlock such a container with that key" or something 16:48 "the magic key politely declines your request" 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Inf Ith Mal Una) made his first wish - "cursed +2 magicbane", on T:5568 (0:43:34) 16:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:86587 (1 day, 17:03:10) 16:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:86588 (1 day, 17:03:43) 16:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:86590 (1 day, 17:04:09) 16:53 \o/ 16:53 found 3 magic lamps in gehennom :-P 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:5849 (0:46:53) 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Inf Ith Mal Una) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:5970 (0:47:34) 16:54 and got wishes from all 3 16:54 pog 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3692 (0:23:03) 16:58 my previous batch of 3 magic lamps yielded only 1 wish though 16:59 I know, I've been finding indecent amounts of magic lamps 16:59 scandalous 16:59 * hothraxxa checks to be sure mobileuser is playing evilhack 16:59 I am currently engaged in farming a horn of plenty for smoky oil potions in vanilla :) 17:00 I need to try this in evil at some point 17:00 PYEC? 17:00 It's really slow. Not worth unless tourist 17:01 ugh. is there some rule that says mines levels with water must be dark? 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Inf Ith Mal Una), 11812 points, T:6722, killed by a bolt of lightning 17:01 yeah mobileuser 17:02 it's slow but like who cares it's a billion wishes 17:02 hothraxxa just unlucky 17:02 Turn on paranoid confirmation: swim hothraxxa 17:02 (not that I've got one yet, despite drinking like 20 smoky potions >:() 17:02 if youre falling in 17:02 even with paranoid swim they're annoying but at least you don't ruin your inv 17:03 I find the only problematic thing with those types of levels 17:03 is the staircase might be hidden 17:04 yeah. you can usually figure out where it is but if you don't get a pickaxe it is annoying 17:04 Can't imagine doing that without a pick axe 17:05 Eventually you'll hit a wall of rock and water 17:05 i have a pick axe. it's silver 17:05 i almost didn't pick it up but then i remembered that i'm not a vampire now 17:07 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6153 (1:54:48) 17:07 if you search the whole level and can't find a stair you can usually just follow a side of the river and find the stairs at the end, but sometimes you need a pickaxe which can get irritating 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 225 points, T:944, killed by a purple worm 17:08 heh, shrieker? 17:08 !lastgame Scringe 17:08 Imanity: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Scringe/evilhack/dumplog/1701900116.evil.html 17:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:08  The shrieker shrieks. 17:08 I love that message 17:09 the athool athools 17:09 xD 17:12 if the first wizard level is 46, the top level is 44? 17:12 yup 17:12 thx 17:13 so you can levelport straight from the wizard tower to the vibrating square level? 17:13 as non-infidel this is new to me ;-) 17:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:86683 (1 day, 17:25:38) 17:16 i think you have to levelport to wizard:1, go through the portal, then levelport/go downstairs from there 17:16 in most variants you can go direct. i don't know about evil or 3.7 17:17 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class ;), on T:6135 (0:44:25) 17:17 in hackem iirc correctly you can't teleport directly from the top of vlad's but you can from rodney's 17:18 recently it became a separate branch in evil so the rules are a little different 17:18 unless it also became a branch in hackem in which case i may be wrong 17:18 vlad's? 17:18 Rodney's 17:18 ah 17:18 last time i was there it was still a part of gehennom 17:19 terrapin the levels are not called 1, 2, 3 17:20 they have regular dungeon numbers 17:20 so I wander 17:20 You have to levelport twice 17:20 wizard 44 in your case then 17:20 Once to get close to portal, then again after leaving 17:20 *46 17:20 right 17:22 F MR wizard 17:22 :( 17:22 1 in 4 :-P 17:22 I got that one plane of water and air. Not fun time 17:22 *on plane 17:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:86753 (1 day, 17:34:35) 17:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:86756 (1 day, 17:35:05) 17:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:86765 (1 day, 17:37:22) 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 6720 points, T:7308, poisoned by an orcish arrow 17:30 Are alhoons genocided mobileuser? 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 1077 points, T:2570, killed by an exploding wand 17:31 yeah, and all L 17:31 Nice 17:31 Was wondering where the 2 welcoming party were xD 17:39 heh 17:39 nearly bedtime 17:39 gn o/ 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Gia Mal Cha), 9103 points, T:5235, killed by a soldier ant 17:41 that went sour fast 17:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:57 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:06 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:15 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 18:16 :/ 18:19 i need to motivate myself to straighten up the house a bit 18:19 but i dont wanna 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5005 (0:41:39) 18:20 I know the feeling xd 18:20 hey K2 18:20 Umbire: Message from mobileuser at 2023-12-06 05:03 EST: For banes in general it's a 10% chance of instakill. For monsters wielding a bane it's 5%. And for some artifacts there are checks for unique monsters to do grave damage instead of an instakill. 18:21 K2, ^is Giantslayer one of those latter artifacts or no 18:24 yeah vs giants 18:24 see artifact.c 18:26 was referring to the unique monster check 18:26 but will look anyway, is good practice 18:28 ok i gotta do this or i never will hah. back in a few 18:43 When automoving to a square, how do I turn off automatically hitting whatever gets in the way? 18:43 Just attacked a peaceful due to this 19:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Arc Dwa Mal Law) averted death (killed by a gnoll), on T:7971 (1:19:29) 19:07 Umbire: only demon lords, Vecna, and Vlad don't get instakilled by relevant banes (Sunsword, Demonbane, HotG), taking 3x damage instead 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 4517 points, T:8159, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 19:09 terrapin, bet 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Gia Mal Cha) murdered Fudd, his faithful dog, on T:3510 (1:16:44) 19:16 can they still get beheaded by vorpal blade? 19:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4087 (1:26:48) 19:23 Noisytoot Yes. Vorpal jabberwock polyform can behead them too 19:29 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:10240 (2:45:41) 19:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2284 (0:18:58) 19:32 The ice vortex turns into a master mind flayer! 19:32 *facepalm* 19:32 D: 19:34 Noisytoot, the above was only relevant for Bane instakills 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Mon Gia Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a gnomish wizard corpse, on T:4466 (1:37:54) 19:35 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:36 bet that was tasty 19:39 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 19:40 my alignment is frocked anyway. i got blinded by a magic trap and accidentally killed poor fudd 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 stone helm of speed", on T:11833 (3:06:53) 19:52 fudd :( 19:57 Fml there are so many beholders in my game 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5811 (0:46:51) 19:58 at least you can see them with telepathy now, that makes them way less annoying 19:58 Yeah. Having extrinsic ESP is really useful 19:59 Especially in gehennom, I detect demons by wielding demonbane/HotG 19:59 so get bamboozled when they come along 19:59 lol 19:59 Think I have all monsters covered 20:00 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12419 (3:15:46) 20:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:62040 (16:10:01) 20:16 Monsters can't interact with the wand of wishing chest, right? 20:23 they can 20:24 intelligent monsters that do not respect elbereth or scrolls of scare monster that have keys will open it and use half of the charges and make you sad 20:29 isn't the WoW in a crystal chest in some specific instances 20:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Trt Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:62499 (16:34:33) 20:38 there is a chance of it being in a crystal chest, yep 20:44 Fuck. Heard a chest opening when first entering the map 20:44 Hope it's not the one 20:47 Was in the crystal chest :) 20:47 5 min charges, not bad 20:48 Considering I only need 3 for gear 20:55 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:00 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 21739 points, T:8545, killed by an elven watchman 21:12 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 21:17 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 oilskin toque", on T:75636 (21:40:56) 21:26 [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1195 points, T:2647, killed by a water moccasin 21:28 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:28 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 21:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:14162 (3:43:40) 21:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Scringe (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 1475 points, T:3213, killed by a piranha 21:53 [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2531 points, T:3591, withered away 22:06 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:78792 (22:28:36) 22:07 lucky me 22:10 [hdf-us] [evil] efot (Hea Dwa Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5409 (1:07:08) 22:18 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:17289 (4:18:45) 22:28 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Law) had a pair of leather gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:1405 (0:09:15) 22:31 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1723 (0:12:24) 22:32 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) had a helm of speed entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:18142 (4:32:46) 22:32 man, i miss the swap chest 22:33 it means you get excited about the first 7 awesome things you get instead of just 1 22:33 :) 22:33 always that transition phase 22:34 the moment when i remembered i could drop a bag on the altar made December worth it all by itself 22:34 or go through all the steps to loot a chest 22:35 yeah tnnt really screwed up my muscle memory on that one 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1017 points, T:1752, killed by a couatl of Ptah 23:00 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:13 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:21210 (5:14:22) 23:13 oh thank god 23:14 got trap doored to his level 23:14 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21213 (5:14:46) 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5837 (0:56:20) 23:16 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:21487 (5:17:08) 23:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:81679 (22:57:32) 23:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Dro Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:81765 (22:59:30) 23:55 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]