00:07 does withering always time out or do you have to kill the mummy before it times out? 00:07 It times out 00:08 It eventually times out, but you might get more stacks applied by the mummy 00:08 which would extend its duration 00:09 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 12966 points, T:6567, killed by a touch of death 00:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:94907 (1 day, 11:15:40) 00:23 well, that's nice. Arch-lich in mines sewer level 00:23 tinklebear someone else just died to an arch lich in mines an hour or so ago 00:24 You likely got the same bones 00:24 yeah, so probably not a chameleon 00:24 Most likely polytrap, which begins the bones train 00:24 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:28 * tinklebear choo choos 00:29 xD 00:31 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 00:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) had a copper club bestowed upon her by Grumbar, on T:95376 (1 day, 11:34:35) 00:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:95568 (1 day, 11:46:54) 01:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:853 (0:42:55) 01:05 Oops. 01:05 xd 01:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:855 (0:43:06) 01:05 Note to self: Don't play as illithid the moment you wake up from a nap. 01:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1097 (0:46:25) 01:10 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1895 points, T:1314, killed by a giant ant 01:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:96412 (1 day, 12:10:00) 01:11 So tedious when they start reflecting 01:12 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:13 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 232 points, T:744, killed by a sling bullet 01:16 Arahael's top tips when playing illithid: Don't melee the Goblin King. Try not to kill your own pet. Casting spells are free. Eat your corpses. 01:22 Do vampire mages have different AI in vampire bat form? 01:23 as opposed to other vampires in vampire bat form? 01:23 > You see a baby crocodile drop out of a pseudodragon's pack! 01:23 I didn't know that pseudodragons wore backpacks. 01:32 They wear fanny packs 01:32 Oh really? 01:33 What's a "fanny pack" to you? :P 01:36 The question is how they would wear their fanny pack :D 01:36 Around the neck 01:36 On the forehead 01:36 Maybe like this woman in wikipedia picture xD 01:36 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_pack 01:36 To british and aussies, "fanny" means genitals. Womans genitals. 01:37 I know. I'm British 01:37 But still use fanny pack in that term 01:38 Ah, interesting. 01:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1828 points, T:3057, killed by a flint stone 01:40 Aww, that game was so good, too. 01:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 Secespita", on T:97130 (1 day, 12:42:25) 01:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 Secespita", on T:97132 (1 day, 12:42:54) 01:44 6 wishes. No Secespita :) 01:44 Methinks it already exists 02:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 02:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:97601 (1 day, 13:02:11) 02:19 Does cursed potion of invis work on Rodney? 02:20 Looks like not 02:20 What a pain 02:20 You know, I *think* I tried one, and it didn't work 02:20 I've tried before too. Didn't work 02:20 (cannot remember for sure. I tried *some* sort of wake-up item on the upstair) 02:20 But when a mplayer cast aggravate monster, he woke up 02:21 The same type of mplayer is in front of me this game too 02:21 infidel 02:22 Or he might've used a cursed potion of invis, can't remember 02:22 either way, it woke him up 02:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:97791 (1 day, 13:12:33) 02:29 Rodney summoning insects is a new one on me 02:29 He can cast clerical I think 02:29 guess so 02:29 Beats stealing my items or using cancellation 02:29 true! 02:29 Even put away my EotA so it doesn't fall into the void and I die inside 02:30 oof, yeah 02:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 793 points, T:1023, killed by a giant bat 02:30 *sigh*. Fell through to an unusually crowded gollom level, and made a beeline to the exit. Didn't get there fast enough. 02:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:97885 (1 day, 13:19:10) 02:45 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una), 6 points, T:23, killed by a fox 02:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:98045 (1 day, 13:33:31) 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1059 (0:09:18) 03:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the orcish high priest of Moloch, on T:98267 (1 day, 13:44:36) 03:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:98271 (1 day, 13:44:58) 03:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed Lucifer, on T:98502 (1 day, 13:59:06) 03:15 Boulder fort fucking sucks vs lucifer as anything except lawful 03:16 HotG blast damage and undead he summons as he jumps around is too much 03:17 you're a priest, so I guess missile options are quite limited 03:18 Pretty much. Spellcasting with EotA isn't enough 03:18 Had to melee him to death 03:18 nice work! 03:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) entered Purgatory, on T:98537 (1 day, 14:02:20) 03:22 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4665 (0:37:07) 03:24 taming scroll did nothing? (it was a taming scroll, i think?) 03:24 It was 03:25 Nothing got tamed 03:25 out of 8 monsters 03:25 :c 03:25 shadow dragon would've been cool 03:25 Any of the 4 dragons 03:25 with 10 MR 03:26 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) rejected atheism by offering a tortle priest corpse on an altar of Eilistraee, on T:5029 (0:40:51) 03:27 evilRNG 03:28 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una), 7440 points, T:5054, killed by a dark elven watch captain 03:29 Fuck me a magic resistany wiz 03:29 come to see you off. thoughtful 03:29 He can see my dick off as it waves in his face 03:30 heh 03:33 Good bye mr wizard 03:33 You will not be missed 03:34 What the fuck lol 03:34 he can follow 03:34 from africa 03:34 If he's on the same level, he follows you through portals and stairs xd 03:34 I think you're carrying an item he fancies 03:34 Maybe 4 03:35 some trinket or other 03:35 Lol Imanity 03:35 I hate purgatory :( 03:36 Is it optional? I haven't kept up but when it was first introduced I thought you got to pick 03:36 It's the only way to get outta gehennom 03:36 Oh dear 03:36 This is why I wanted staff of the archmagi so bad 03:36 Would be able to teleport away everyone 03:36 pff what fun would that be? 03:37 "Away you foul beast!" 03:37 I would be having fun with my succubi in the demigod bar by now :( 03:38 gotta say this particular castle map makes me queasy. 03:38 died there soo many times 03:39 Wraith kiting definitely takes longer here 03:40 and you're deposited further away from your stash when ascending 03:40 Would be amazing if I could phase hmm xD 03:41 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 03:53 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 03:56 Damn, 3 wands of tp got maximum charge 03:56 Now no more wizard for rest of game pls :) 03:59 Imanity: I keep reading that as "toilet paper". 03:59 Why do you think they take so long to get back xD 03:59 Hmm. 04:04 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5219 (2:35:32) 04:10 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:5390 (2:40:51) 04:10 Rare Archon spawn oo 04:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:99381 (1 day, 14:57:09) 04:23 I don't think my pseudodragon is very happy with me. 04:24 did you bop it on the head? 04:24 Yes. 04:25 aw 04:25 poor little guy 04:26 another magic resistant wizard hello game 04:26 can I catch a break here 04:27 my last game that made it that far, I pretty much just stopped wasting wand charges on him 04:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:99552 (1 day, 15:10:44) 04:27 It's only a 25% chance, so always worth zapping one until it hits 04:27 but this is just extreme 04:28 25% chance of MR, right? there's also a chance of reflexion 04:28 at least, i think so 04:29 and, even if he doesn't have either, the wand misses at least half the time... 04:30 so with those diminishing returns on each zap, and an OP melee attack, it just seemed the way to go 04:30 If you have an op melee attack, it might be best 04:31 (don't quote me on the wand missing half the time. that's just an estimate) 04:31 You can calculate it by comparing his AC, with the accuracy chart on wiki 04:31 yeah, I could. but I want to have fun ;-D 04:32 oh wow, earth 04:32 Yeah, easiest one to finish 04:32 almost there! 04:32 Always hate getting an early water 04:32 Since it's by far the worst place for wizard to appear 04:33 which he has a high chance to do upon entering the endgame 04:33 yeah, wizard on water is an unpleasant surprise 04:36 lol, you brought a tinning kit :D 04:37 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4557 points, T:4666, killed by a horse 04:37 The trolls can get kind of annoying 04:37 especially on plane of water 04:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:99656 (1 day, 15:21:43) 04:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:99659 (1 day, 15:21:50) 04:40 Feels good man 04:40 \o/ 04:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Pri Gia Fem Neu), 3500602 points, T:99680, ascended (in dishonor) 04:40 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/evilhack/dumplog/1701249411.evil.html 04:41 con grat ul ations, Imanity 04:41 ty 04:46 wizard (2x), healer, and priest. Is that all the primary spellcasting roles? 04:47 There's infidel who's quite adept in spellcasting 04:47 ah, cool 04:47 But for the healer and 2x priest, I've been chasing first combo ascensions 04:47 Loggers beat me to healer, but got both priests 04:48 oh, I see 04:48 nice 04:48 Only about 3 left 04:49 Wow make that 2 04:49 Tortle monk+tortle samurai 04:49 Oh tortle priest is there too 04:49 I'll prob go for tortle priest 04:49 No depression on plane of water :) 04:52 cool. good luck 04:52 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 04:53 @e?archangel 04:53 Archangel (A) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 25 | Spd: 16 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison petrification magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: special | AC: -6 | Atk: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 1d8 claw physical, 4d6 cast clerical, 2d6 hug physical | Align: 15 | flies, regen, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 04:53 @?oracle 04:53 Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 0 | Res: magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 0d4 passive magic missile | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 04:57 Congrats, Imanity 04:58 thx 04:58 imanity won? grats 04:58 !lastasc imanity 04:58 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/evilhack/dumplog/1701249411.evil.html 04:58 With 320 magic maker charges to spare xD 04:58 boo, mmf polyform 04:59 play a giant the way Grumbar intended! :P 04:59 K2 won't give back alhoon polyform :( 04:59 alhoon polyform is kind of annoying cause you summon nasties all the time 04:59 Are they peaceful? 04:59 Like balrogs 04:59 I think they're tame? 04:59 That's pog then 05:00 or maybe peaceful. I haven't played a mage spellcaster monster in a while 05:00 Even insects can be a huge buffer in the astral plane 05:00 meh, just woolly rain 05:00 Didn't even need to this game. 6 wasted wishes 05:02 hah yeah I remember that 05:02 Must've spawned somewhere. Would've loved staff of archmagi in purg and plane of water 05:02 just don't artifact wish past two, you are very likely to lose more than you could have gained using the wishes somewhere else 05:03 I doubt it spawned somewhere, you probably just got unlucky 05:03 There was nothing I needed tho 05:03 Even skipped hidden dungeon, all of vecna's domain 05:03 and the wizard's tower 05:03 how do you skip the wizard tower? lol 05:03 Levelport upon entering it 05:04 that feels like something k2 would suppress, I'm surprised you can do that 05:04 You can do in vanilla too 05:04 I know 05:04 Miss out on so much loot, so I think it's a fair trade 05:04 the loot doesn't matter at that point 05:05 Exactly 05:05 Would rather save 20 mins 05:05 so it's not fair trade, lol 05:05 You've already proven you're capable of clearing wizard's tower if you don't need the loot 05:05 So is only bloat 05:05 and a waste of time 05:05 I mean you can say that of like all of the game past the castle 05:06 Usually I don't even have MR by the time I reach castle 05:06 ja, past the castle 05:06 or past ice queen, if you do that after castle 05:06 There are still challenges past the castle though 05:07 3rd demon lair can be especially problematic 05:07 If there was something of that calibur in the tower, I'd prob do it 05:07 If there was a sufficient reward 05:07 But a bunch of mobs I've seen before? Boring 05:07 yeah closest to that is just the 50% neothelid chance 05:08 my point is just because you've proven you're capable of doing something doesn't necessarily mean you should be able to skip it 05:08 though in the case of wiztower, I agree 05:09 What challenge is there in the tower? 05:09 It's jam packed with hundreds of mobs 05:09 yeah I never said otherwise 05:10 Feels like that's the only way to distinguish if something is only there to take up players' time 05:10 if there's challenge in it or not? 05:10 Absolutely 05:10 yeah I agree 05:11 I don't mind the tower much. the first level has enough monsters to create some interesting scenarios, and the second level is quite short with interesting mobs 05:12 third level's definitely my favorite, though 05:12 The one which houses wizard? 05:13 I think the worst offender for a timewaster is the first vecna level- where the first tower level can create fun combat situations purely by stuffing a bunch of varied monster types in a cool building, the first vecna level is all the same stuff with virtually no danger 05:13 yeah 05:13 I actually love first level of Vecna's domain. There's so much loot 05:13 it looks cool and it has dragons and wizards and shit 05:13 Ye. 3rd is pretty fun 05:14 Wish dragons were freed when wizard woke up tho 05:14 and you don't even need to clear more than 1/4 of Vecna's first level 05:14 I hate first vecna level because it takes up so much time and is tedious but it's optimal to fully clear it to get the benefit 05:15 there is a certain tension between "I'm looking for challenges" and "Gee Boss, I'm not sure how I ended up with AC:-87. Just sort of happened that way" 05:15 Imo, it gives you the choice of beelining or full clearing 05:15 Depending on what your gamestate is like 05:15 Zombies don't take long to kill, but can be threatening of surrounded 05:16 and the threat of multiple vampire mages adds some spice 05:16 there's so much loot that no matter what your build is, you'll find a couple useful things, so by beelining you're just giving up free loot that is actually useful 05:17 You can always do with more wands of death, tp, scrolls of charging, etc 05:17 eh, by vecna's you should oneshot all zombies 'sides giant and ettin 05:17 exactly 05:17 But if surrounded by a few giant and ettin zombies, things can be problematic 05:17 and very easy to get surrounded 05:17 vampire mages might be my least favorite enemy evil adds. it's like liches but with better AC and speedier 05:17 @e?vampire mage 05:17 vampire mage (V) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 14 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -4 | Atk: 2d8 claw level drain, 1d8 bite level drain, 2d6 cast spell | Align: -9 | genocidable, flies, breathless, regen, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis 05:18 I think they're really well designed. Makes you think before massacring every B you see 05:18 I've only ever been even slightly in danger on vecna-1 when using the staff of aesculapius, and even then wasn't so bad 05:19 With HotG or Cleaver, it's quite easy 05:19 dichotomy is great too 05:19 plus it destroys the trees sometimes too which is badass 05:20 Oh yeah, most zombies are vulnerable to fire+ice 05:20 Fire specifically 05:20 undead resist ice with v. few exceptions if any 05:20 vampires are also vulnerable to ice for some reason 05:20 those are the few exceptions 05:20 Oh 05:20 So no special effect from dichotomy 05:20 the aoe thing 05:20 no you get the fire one 05:21 Thought the monster had to be vulnerable to both, for it to trigger 05:21 nope 05:21 that's pog 05:21 you get fire for fire vulnerable, cold for cold vulnerable. I think if they're vulnerable to both it's random 05:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:22 Would be cooler if they're vulnerable to fire+ice, you get both effects 05:22 Maybe less aoe, but still more than just one effect activation 05:23 like it explodes with fire and ice both in one turn? 05:23 ye 05:23 that would be cool 05:23 YANI: #invoke for dichotomy makes it so the next hit will always create an AoE, if used against an appropriate monster 05:24 :D 05:24 #invoke dichotomy removes the fire and cold resistance in a range. 05:24 Maybe for a few turns 05:25 Or casts cold+fire vulnerability 05:25 oh wait that's a sickass idea actually xdminsy 05:26 Really. 05:27 currently dichotomy really sucks against a lot of endgame monsters so it would be nice to make that less of an issue 05:28 which ones specifically, like the Astral stuff? 05:29 there's a surprising amount of monsters with fire+cold res- some unique demons, high-level liches, alhoons, bunch of A, etc. 05:29 @e?lucifer 05:29 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 05:29 lucifer is not cold resistance but someone is and I forget who 05:29 *cold resistant 05:30 I'm not sure, maybe asmodeus has both. 05:30 oh, asmodeus probably 05:30 graz'zt has cold res too 05:31 and obviously tiamat 05:33 Asmo def. has cold/fire res 05:35 I've used dichotomy once, but don't remember how I deal with end game. 05:35 Wands of teleportation? :) 05:35 The pacifist route 05:36 I used it once, but I don't think I ascended with it. maybe splatted in purgatory or something 05:36 I dual-wield shadowblade, maybe just kill'em. 05:36 I remember that it was really really fun when it worked and really really annoying when it didn't 05:36 vecna's domain especially was hell 05:37 Yes I thought that those bosses in evilhack are tough to kill. 05:37 But recently I saw that xnethack gehennom reddit post. 05:37 Seems xnh bosses are somewhat more evil? 05:38 I saw that Dark Speech seems annoying and Orcus ignore MR. 05:38 the xnethack bosses are quite tough, but they are quite fragile 05:38 I used just grayswandir with no dual wield on my ascension and beat the bosses in only a few turns usually 05:39 Maybe like 15 +7 darts instead of 80? 05:39 and they are not covetous so ranged combat is easier? 05:39 I think most of them are not covetous, anyway 05:39 Ahhh that's indeed grayswandir. 05:39 I think if you use stormbringer or something they will be much more nasty 05:39 yeenoghu was really bad though, even by evilhack standards 05:40 his melee attacks make your weapon fly across the room 05:40 whew 05:41 lol what the hell. 05:41 Make the weapon free. 05:43 demogorgon is also buffed a little bit but I used green dragon scale mail so he was not bad 05:43 Since demo's disease attack is a tentacle, would oilskin protect against it? 05:44 no 05:44 sadge 05:44 a tentacle attack is not the same as a wrap attack like from a kraken 05:45 I mean oilskin helm 05:45 no, cause it's not a brain-sucking tentacle 05:45 like how oilskin helms protect against zombie bite attacks but not bite attacks in general 05:45 that's a shame 05:46 I mean, he's basically slapping you around with his giant tentacle arms, so it wouldn't make much sense 05:46 yeah 05:47 @e?demogorgon 05:47 Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 106 | Diff: 57 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 95 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 8d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting level drain, 2d6 tentacle disease, 2d6 tentacle disease | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 05:47 @x?demogorgon 05:47 Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 106 | Diff: 57 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 95 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 8d6 cast spell, 1d4 sting level drain, 4d4 bite wither, 1d6 claw disease, 1d6 claw disease | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 05:48 oh right, vanilla doesn't even use tentacles for demo, so neither does xnh 05:49 1d6 is still kind of a sad number though. poor weak vanilla demo :( 05:50 I've maybe only encounter demogorgon once in vanilla. 05:50 I got him maybe once or twice randomly I think 05:50 lately I just summon him on purpose because I think he's kind of cool 05:50 As a non-chaotic? 05:51 Make a statue. 05:51 Heh. 05:52 yeah I just stone him :) 05:52 does alignment matter for that? 05:52 Oh :( 05:52 He's pretty fun to fight 05:52 eh, he's just a resource sink really 05:53 keep some potions of extra/full healing in inventory and hit him until he dies 05:53 Suppose so 05:53 Don't think he can even gate in vanilla 05:53 I do like the sort of unique minigame with the unihorn and termill+stun, though 05:54 he can gate in demons like any other demon sans foocubi and balrogs 05:54 the only unique demon he can gate in is yeenoghu, though 05:55 Oh loggesr you know every detail. 05:55 xD 05:55 I remember reading Kate Nepveu's guide on demo back in the day 05:55 What's that. 05:56 I have spent an embarrassing amount of time on the wiki to gain the arcane knowledge 05:56 https://www.steelypips.org/nethack/demogorgon_faq.html 05:56 it's an old spoiler file from rgrn 05:56 Balrogs are really annoying in evilhack they always use bullwhip. 05:56 they do that in vanilla now too 05:56 The evil is spreading :D 05:57 Ah yes, my 3.7 build is still Mar 7... 05:57 Heh maybe sometimes I could play the newest at hardfought. 05:57 they made a couple of the boring demons more interesting recently. ice devils get a slowing touch, bone devils gate skeletons instead of demons, barbed devils get a sticky touch. and the balrog thing 05:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Trt Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:56142 (22:46:04) 05:58 When will pit fiends be able to spawn pits under you :/ 05:58 No worries, I will fly. 05:59 Had a shambling horror who did that a few days ago 05:59 I was thinking about that too. it's originally from xnethack, and the devteam seems to have no issue incorporating xnethack changes 05:59 I hate pit horrors. pit fiends are super annoying already, I don't need another monster to do it! 06:00 I got a pit horror few days ago. Quite a unique attack 06:00 *few games 06:00 Ah does such things exist in evilhack? 06:00 I don't even notice that. 06:00 Only if shambling horrors role to create a pit 06:00 yeah if you're flying it doesn't matter 06:00 *roll 06:00 Heh I'm flying in 3.7, not sure if I'm always flying in evilhack.. 06:01 But I dont notice pit fiends can make pits under me. 06:01 it's so annoying. it took me a few playthroughs to notice but when I did it became one of my least favorite attacks 06:02 @e?pit fiend 06:02 pit fiend (&) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 65 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -3 | Atk: 4d2 weapon physical, 4d2 weapon physical, 4d4 hug create-pit | Align: -13 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis 06:02