00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:70150 (15:08:33) 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1783 (0:29:05) 00:58 !sb 00:58 bouquet: https://nethackscoreboard.org/ascended.evil.html 01:03 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 14 bone shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4500 (0:55:58) 01:19 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4623 (0:56:48) 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1460 points, T:2884, killed by a mountain dwarf 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:4836 (1:01:17) 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 16 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5087 (1:07:55) 01:41 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:41 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 01:46 -!- mariari has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.1.1] 01:46 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered Fido, her faithful little dog, on T:2428 (0:18:09) 01:47 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 01:51 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:51 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 01:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide alchemy smock", on T:78817 (1 day, 5:45:04) 01:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide boots of speed", on T:78820 (1 day, 5:46:43) 01:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:78825 (1 day, 5:48:13) 01:59 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:6308 (1:37:38) 02:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide gauntlets of protection", on T:78825 (1 day, 5:49:47) 02:02 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:6453 (1:39:55) 02:03 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6538 (1:41:02) 02:16 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:7335 (1:54:37) 02:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7842 (2:00:35) 02:40 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3098 (0:53:34) 02:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:46 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1934 points, T:4141, killed by a werewolf 03:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:07 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a copper helm of speed, on T:12242 (2:45:01) 03:14 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed tealbare's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:13235 (2:52:31) 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08:35 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 08:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:37 -!- Umbire is now known as PhantomLumina 08:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3192 (0:22:53) 08:46 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 4446 points, T:4761, killed by an orcish watchman 08:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:59 ab! 08:59 I had a dream where I dipped one of my polymorph potions into a stack of 993 potions of holy water and then they disappeared from my inventory 08:59 er, dipped the holy water into the polymorph 09:00 ab mobileuser o/ 09:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:48777 (7:42:19) 09:00 I had a dream where my BoH disappeared from my inventory when I reached the hackem planes 09:01 oh wait that really happened :-P 09:01 ab 09:01 aw rip :c 09:01 wazzup phantomlumina 09:02 skill issued my second window of wiki stuff away again 09:02 heh 09:02 didn't "lose" much of anything but gonna be annoying to remember what I even had 09:03 I looked at wiki changes, you've been busy 09:04 the fact that there were so many monster classes without a monster class page has been killin me 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:49908 (7:46:31) 09:04 I literally just want dragonbane hermes 09:06 I'm gonna do the zombie one sometime today 09:07 speaking of 09:07 K2, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Lich_(monster_class) 09:07 can poke around that + the monster articles if you want, see if I left anything out 09:08 looks fine 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1559 points, T:3336, killed by a bone spear 09:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:19 Oh yeah before I forget 09:19 adamantine helm of speed: valid wish or no 09:19 phantomlumina, one thing I noticed with the various lich articles is that it'd probably be best to adjust sentences like "The Sword of Kas is an artifact gemstone two-handed sword that deals double damage versus demiliches" to "double damage versus L, including demiliches", to avoid confusion 09:19 no 09:19 right 09:20 what would be the best helm of speed mat then 09:20 mithril still? 09:20 mithril for non-spellcasters, stone for spellcasters 09:20 spellcasters wishing to save on weight *could* wish for bone instead, as it's a lighter material that also doesn't impede spellcasting, but stone is one more AC point 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:51118 (7:52:24) 09:24 k2, is enchantment carried over when forging angelslayer to soa? 09:24 I imagine not, but idk if that's a forge arti thing in general or not 09:24 (assuming it's even true) 09:26 I know enchantment isn't carried over if you use two weapons to make an armor piece, for example, but idk about a weapon and a comestible to make a weapon 09:29 enchantment of 2nd obj carries over 09:29 PhantomLumina I already corrected the helm of speed entry 09:30 adamantine is not a valid material for speed helm 09:30 yeah he just fleshed out the bone/stone/mithril bit a little more 09:30 forged barding always seems to turn out +0, according to stethoscope observations, at least 09:30 ah 09:31 that's cause you're changing item class when forging it, tinklebear, and saddles can't be enchanted 09:31 so it's a little different 09:31 I'll see when I forge SoA later, I guess 09:31 a counterexample to "enchantment of 2nd obj carries over" 09:32 I'm not forging a saddle. 09:32 enchantment of 2nd obj carries over *in the vast majority of cases* 09:32 no, i'm saying that your saddle would have to be enchanted for it to be relevant to my question, tinklebear 09:32 nah, it's fine however it happens to work. just working out the rules is all 09:32 * tinklebear loves forges 09:32 forges are so good :) 09:34 I guess to be a little more specific, I know that enchantment doesn't carry over when changing item class, but if I use one x item and one y item to create an x item, will enchantment be carried over from my first x item 09:35 also k2, the enchantment can carry over from 1st/2nd obj, it just picks whichever is higher 09:35 ^ this too 09:36 also, not only the material of second object, but also its BUC seems to propagate 09:37 yeah BUC/material/properties of second item carry over- so you could for example forge a +7 long sword first and a blessed mithril +0 long sword of frost second, and you get +7 mithril katana of frost :) 09:37 \o/ 09:38 forging is one of the only variant features I really think should be in vanilla 09:38 so many cool weapons are underused in vanilla since they have super low spawn rate for no reason 09:38 yes. it would be a huge change 09:39 looking into forging stuff is how I got reminded that morning stars are genuinely Fine Actually 09:39 same 09:39 not bad damage 09:40 I laughed all the time at "the mind flayer wields a rusty morning star!" 09:40 the problem is one of it being the only thing that uses the skill 09:40 which, isn't really a "problem" per se but also what else is new 09:41 conflating it with mace skill is awesome 09:41 (at least, I understand this was done) 09:41 eh, I can leave it 09:41 yeah pretty nice that receiving Trollsbane unlocks mace now 09:41 it is nice I imagine 09:42 that is one of the merges that makes the most sense, I think 09:42 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4595 (0:32:28) 09:42 since a morning star is just a mace with spikes on, after all 09:42 "The mace was a traditional knightly weapon that developed somewhat independently; as the mace transitioned to being constructed entirely of metal, the morning star retained its characteristic wooden shaft." 09:43 well one's got a wooden handle so hwhat 09:44 just saying there's more of a diff. than that :B 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a morning star entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:53804 (8:11:47) 09:44 alright ya got me :P 09:44 very topical, hermes 09:44 \o/ 09:44 lol 09:45 scimitar/saber I take much less issue with in comparison 09:45 though neither are like, deal breaking 09:45 just my standard habit of "let's see if we can distinguish them better rather than just folding in/removing" 09:46 special gory messages when using morning star \o/ 09:47 actually, another thing that I'd like to see in vanilla are more varied messages for hitting something 09:47 slash, pierce, slice, whack, love that 09:47 the hit messages thing in variants is from a patch 09:48 someone PR that they have no reason to say no 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5133 (0:40:01) 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Val Cen Fem Neu), 1375 points, T:1187, killed by the Goblin King 09:59 a thing I have noticed: when you are displaced or invisible, monsters seem far more interested in picking up stuff than in moving toward you 09:59 the specific martial arts feedback messages, pretty proud of that 10:00 esp when hallucinating 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:56814 (8:25:38) 10:01 * rebatela hallucinates to check out messages 10:01 37 blessed scrolls of blank paper: 1 blessed scroll of remove curse \o/ 10:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:56974 (8:30:02) 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:879 (0:06:23) 10:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) genocided gelatinous cubes, on T:56978 (8:32:36) 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:56982 (8:33:38) 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Law) had a staff of healing entrusted to him by Athena, on T:57379 (8:35:02) 10:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Athena, on T:59353 (8:42:01) 10:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) permanently converted to lawful, on T:59951 (8:44:29) 10:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:20 !lastgame tinklebear 10:20 Noisytoot: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1697538198.evil.html 10:22 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 10:24 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 10:25 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Sam Gia Mal Law) destroyed Shrigis' ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2120 (0:21:12) 10:30 * tinklebear hopes Mister Smith is getting on okay, topside on the plane of earth 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:6878 (1:39:48) 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Sam Gia Mal Law), 4572 points, T:2463, killed by a gnoll hunter 10:38 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:41 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Mon Gia Mal Law), 573 points, T:958, killed by the Goblin King 10:52 !last game rebatela 10:52 !lastgame rebatela 10:52 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1698676021.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rebatela/evilhack/dumplog/1663704988.evil.html 10:54 fond memories 10:56 well i just got the bones 10:56 -!- imanity has joined #evilhack 10:57 of game i just died in but i don't know which of those helms is the +1 10:57 (they are both cursed now) 10:58 you going to finish that goblin corpse? 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:8843 (2:05:49) 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 260 points, T:1034, killed by a boulder 11:11 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:18 -!- imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:18 -!- imanity has joined #evilhack 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:6027 (0:53:34) 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3143 (0:38:51) 11:27 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4407 (0:47:50) 11:30 damn i didn't realize i broke weaponless.. oh well at least i can use for MR 11:30 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 11:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Law) had a spellbook of remove curse given to him by Athena, on T:60622 (8:47:30) 11:52 do loadstones stack? 11:52 I feel like they shouldn't 11:52 but idk 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] picaresquieu (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 3212 points, T:4157, quit 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Athena, on T:62601 (8:53:29) 11:56 okay, time to see if I can bring this back 11:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Law) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:62852 (8:54:52) 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Law) used a forge to create Ithilmar, on T:63190 (8:57:26) 12:05 awesome 12:05 the experience curve in hackem channel is making me re-examine the exp curve for evilhack 12:05 i think i may tweak it slightly 12:06 *discussion 12:06 that would be nice 12:07 The fiqhack curve feels so low, I don't get it 12:12 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a broadsword entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5334 (0:55:35) 12:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:29 How many attacks do you need to make, to ID the enchantment of a weapon? 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:7207 (1:14:13) 12:38 ugh. for some reason i thought that was changed (magicbane) 12:38 probably should have checked first lol 12:39 That is changed. It doesn't do that in vanilla. HTH.HAND. 12:41 oh i see (i think) 12:42 was going to ask whether a +0 magicbane is safe to stow, like a (x:0) wand of cancellation... 12:43 ...but I think I know the answer 12:43 and I lose the magicbane too? 12:43 oof, yeah, that makes sense, rebatela 12:43 you lose the bag, and you lose the item that caused the explosion 12:43 I don't like the scatter thing either.. It should just blow up the bag and you lose everything like the old days 12:43 agree! 12:44 not fair to all the people it happend to over the years 12:44 haha 12:44 rebatela I think magicbane was only changed in hackem 12:44 I knew about the magicbane thing too. I consciously put it in there confusing which game had it 12:44 aw, that sucks 12:44 Condolances :( 12:45 i'm very early on. it's not a big deal 12:45 if it was later on and i lost a WoW or something i'd be pissed ;) 12:45 but thanks 12:45 NH4 just drains all the charges/enchantment from the offending item (usually a wand of cancellation). 12:45 I keep my WoW in a separate sack, cause I'm paranoid I might blow the main bag up 12:46 ah another magicboom :-/ 12:46 i'm always so careful with cancel wands etc. I NEVER carry them around in an emergency sack or wahtever. 12:46 once you turn it into the staff of the archmagi it is baggable 12:46 I used to always stash them. And then one time I forgot that I'd used a spare bag of holding (from bones IIRC) as my main stash... 12:46 but "evil"hack? That's fine if you want to add magicbane, but it aint evil unless you lose everything 12:47 yeah I usually hide them under boulders (cancel wands) 12:47 they are pretty darn useful to carry around 12:48 To be properly evil, it should happen any time you attempt to put any magical item into any kind of container. 12:48 and i only put the oilskin sack with the cancellation in my bag of holding by pressing A accidentally 1 in 10 games :-) 12:48 HEH 12:48 heh 12:48 Or take any magical item OUT of any kind of container, I suppose. 12:48 yeah I wish I could carry them around. Trust me, I realize how useful they are 12:49 I love knowing the spell actually, but that isn't til end of game 12:49 one of the many wizard-only tricks 12:52 Fuck me. Boojum are so annoying 12:52 The least they could do is teleport themselves with you :P 12:52 that would be so funny 12:52 ikr xD 12:53 like the dance at the end of the soviet nutcracker cartoon 12:54 "animated short film" 12:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:59 !who 12:59 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] rebatela [evil] dbanethacker [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 12:59 I want to finish this run before tnnt starts but I don't think I can do it :( 13:02 Levelport to -4. EZ xD 13:02 *-5 13:07 heh 13:07 are you gonna play in tnnt imanity? 13:07 Ye 13:08 Never been in a tnnt before, but fairly confident in my vanilla ability. Especially after playing so much Evilhack 13:10 yeah it's a fun time 13:11 I think I got like 167/312 achievements last time, i want to get more this time 13:11 holy cow! 13:12 both at the number of achievements you got and the number there are 13:12 yeah there's a lot to hunt for 13:12 i dont even know if i'll finish my current run DURING tnnt, i may do nothing this year...i don't want to give up but it is such a slog i'm not motivated to play much 13:12 I'll prob go for an ascension in every role. Will be happy if I get that 13:13 join our clan :) 13:13 I want a conduct nut like you 13:14 How do I join? 13:14 registration opens in about 7 hours 13:14 Ah 13:14 I think once someone makes the clan they shoot anyone interested an invite 13:14 Page says use hardfought credentials to log in. Will check then 13:15 #teamsplat 13:18 -!- imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:18 -!- imanity has joined #evilhack 13:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) killed Baphomet, on T:129449 (1 day, 22:50:33) 13:32 Is tal'gath immune to drain or sleep? It says magic in his resistance list, but is the 70 MR score the only thing I'd need to overcome? 13:32 @tal'gath 13:32 @e?tal'gath 13:32 Tal'Gath (e) | Lvl: 46 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold disintegrate shock poison petrification magic | Confer: disintegrate poison | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 0d0 gaze slow, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 6d6 gaze cancellation, 16d4 cast magic missile, 10d10 bite physical | Align: -18 | flies, breathless, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 13:32 No 13:32 Nice 13:32 Magic = player-style MR 13:33 So poly and things like that 13:33 One strat is to zap sleep at him until he stops moving 13:33 and dagger/arrowstorm him 13:33 Might try it 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:10016 (1:41:09) 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided disenchanters, on T:71091 (15:23:43) 13:40 if you poly him, it might not count as killing him for the purposes of genocide 13:40 because newcham does not kill 13:40 I think player style MR means he cant be polyed 13:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 121597 points, T:17825, killed by a bolt of lightning 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:71841 (15:36:29) 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:71847 (15:36:34) 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) killed Lolth, on T:130126 (1 day, 23:13:56) 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 228 points, T:422, killed by a boiling potion 14:00 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:00 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:01 except via sliming 14:01 I think genetic engineer would work too 14:01 that respects MR 14:01 Oh 14:02 Heard it could work on riders 14:02 riders don't have player-style MR 14:02 Hmm 14:02 sliming does not respect MR, but firey monsters can't be slimed 14:02 Who needs woolly rain when you can have slime rain on the astral plane xD 14:03 Or maybe priests can cure slime, idk 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 163 points, T:734, killed by a goblin 14:06 it respects MC 14:06 Yeah, low hp pool and 10% chance of getting through MC isnt worth 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:11300 (2:16:21) 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a giant spider), on T:18139 (4:58:21) 14:16 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 14:32 mobileuser Have you tried giving rod of Orcus to a pet? 14:32 no, didn't have pets 14:32 Do you think it would be a good weapon for one? 14:32 Over a highly enchanted artifact, or highly enchanted sword 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:12521 (2:28:17) 14:35 maybe? I don't even know if they would use it 14:36 if you cant pick something up you cant give it to a pet 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12902 (2:30:46) 14:36 give your pet butcher instead 14:36 I mean the reworked rod of orcus 14:36 it can be used by player 14:36 oh, has evil wussed out the rod? didn't know that 14:36 xD 14:38 it autocurses, not sure a pet would like that 14:38 If it can't drop the rod, the pet can't lose it ;) 14:39 I'm sick of pets throwing away all the daggers I give them to wield 14:39 pets will prefer any artifact to a non-artifact 14:39 so give them an artifact 14:39 Only one I have is vorpal 14:39 which is kinda dangerous in the hands of a pet 14:40 I think they will only wield coaligned or unaligned artifacts 14:40 Hm. So rod is out of the question 14:40 I'll try giving it to them 14:40 When the time comes 14:40 what alignment is it? 14:40 It'll be an Archon 14:40 so highly lawful 14:41 rod of orcus is probably chaotic, so it won't wield it 14:41 yes, it's chaotic 14:41 Yeah, most likely 14:42 Maybe I just enchant whatever artifact it's generated with 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5650 (0:38:26) 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 46190 points, T:20703, killed by a mumak 14:47 -!- jonadab has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:52 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Trt Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:7756 (0:55:23) 15:17 Butcher rocks. I gave it to a pet flind. 15:18 @e?flind 15:18 flind (h) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Atk: 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon physical, 1d4 bite physical | Align: -10 | genocidable, omnivore, infravis 15:18 two weapon attacks 15:19 Give it grimtooth 15:19 and watch the chaos ensue :D 15:21 about the co-alignment thing, between pets and artifacts. Are there *any* suitable pets that can wield a neutral artifact? 15:22 can't think of any 15:23 healer/tourist, maybe? 15:23 Most neutral monsters are animals, elementals, force-of-nature-type-beats (Riders) 15:24 wait, you can tame NPCs? 15:24 In some fairly corner cases I believe so? 15:24 that's interesting 15:24 I feel like said corner cases involve create familiar or something 15:25 oh 15:25 but don't quote me on it in any case 15:25 not like you can stumble on one of the anakin rooms, turn undead, and then read confused taming 15:26 i've gotten one via create familiar, yeah 15:26 ah coo 15:26 l 15:26 Not counting those, what else have you got 15:27 * tinklebear got nothing 15:27 djinn 15:27 Ah, ye 15:27 @e?djinn 15:27 djinn ~1~ djinni (&) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: special | AC: 4 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical | Align: 0 | flies, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, infravis 15:27 weapon physical, Align:0. perfect! 15:29 "kinda dangerous in the hands of a pet" <-- weapons are by definition, kinda dangerous. 15:29 it's sort of the point! 15:30 oh huh ettins are neutral 15:31 woah 15:31 @e?forest centaur 15:31 forest centaur (C) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 10 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Atk: 1d8 weapon physical, 1d6 kick physical | Align: -1 | genocidable, omnivore, infravis 15:31 @e?plains centaur 15:31 plains centaur (C) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 kick physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, infravis 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 10616 points, T:10645, killed by the Rat King, while retreating into his shell 15:33 easy to tame, the ettin. not two slow, and they get two weapon attacks per turn 15:34 finally something to do with magicbane bones 15:34 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:35 @e?abominable snowman 15:35 Abominable Snowman (Y) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 27 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison petrification | Confer: cold | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 8d4 bite physical, 6d6 weapon physical, 6d6 claw knockback | Align: 0 | carnivore, swims, thick hide, regen, nopoly 15:35 is that tamable? 15:36 no 15:36 @e?revenant 15:36 revenant (Z) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 9 | Res: cold sleep poison petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: dungeons | AC: 1 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical, 1d6 touch paralyze | Align: 0 | genocidable, breathless, mindless, thick hide 15:36 ..if you were asking about snowman, not ettin 15:36 yes 15:36 @e?iron golem 15:36 iron golem (') | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 6 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Atk: 4d10 weapon physical, 4d6 breath drain str | Align: 0 | breathless, mindless, thick hide, poisonous, vegan 15:37 these are great! 15:37 @e?skeleton 15:37 skeleton (Z) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 8 | Res: cold sleep poison petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: special | AC: 4 | Atk: 2d6 weapon physical, 1d6 touch slow | Align: 0 | breathless, mindless, thick hide 15:37 iron golem could be nice 15:37 slow, unfortunately 15:39 Ettins don't do armor though 15:39 neither do archons (though those're obviously more powerful) 15:39 They do, just not body armor 15:39 ettins can't wear gloves/boots/hats? 15:39 Ettins don't bother at all (that I'm remotely aware of) 15:40 Fuck forgot Archons cant wear body armor. That's annoying 15:40 Notice I said don't, not can't 15:40 hm 15:40 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:40 Ettin polyform can do gloves and boots, and presumably a helm 15:40 they're not intelligent 15:40 ah yeah ettins are M1_ANIMAL 15:41 rawr 15:41 xD 15:42 what makes the abominable snowman untamable? 15:43 its a unique 15:44 Archons can wear rings, right? 15:44 Yes 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1938 (0:20:52) 15:44 Poggers 15:44 Tempted to eat them all myself tho 15:45 will see if I'm feeling generous at the time 15:46 you should give it slow digestion so it doesn't get eaten 15:46 it's huge 15:46 so cant be eaten 15:46 no, it's large and can be eten 15:46 only large :( 15:46 *eaten 15:46 Oh 15:46 can it be eaten then? 15:47 yes, huge is the cutoff for unengulfability 15:47 Hm. Idk if I have one spare 15:47 I'll see if it comes when polypiling 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Novice, on T:15699 (3:00:42) 15:49 Know who needs a ring of slow digestion? Rodney 15:49 gasp 15:49 k2 don't look xd 15:50 i can't seem to find this bones dumplog 15:50 honestly iit might be nice if it was MR amulet OR slow digestion 15:50 * K2 takes notes 15:50 just to keep the dragon tamers on their toes 15:50