00:00 okay so hobgobblins do count as same race as orcs 00:00 and....sacrificing one is a way that you can find that out. 00:03 got an angry demon? 00:03 another way is with the '/' monster lookup; it will tell you if you are the same race as the monster 00:06 got a succubus. in a panic, chucked a pile of daggers at it... only then realizing 'you feel guilty' because it was peaceful. Sacrificed about 6 more monsters, but my god is still not cool with me. 00:07 You have infinite time to think before moving 00:07 I find it very difficult in this game not to accidentally attack peaceful sometimes and abuse alignment. 00:08 wel... in a game that's 10's k turns long, taking an infinite time btwn turns also has drawbacks 00:09 rumor has it that underlined peacefuls are coming soon! i'm very excited 00:11 ok now what. I had 'a feeling of reconciliation', but when I prayed I get 'Mars is displeased' 00:11 Your Luck is still torpedo'd. 00:12 Should've repaired that first. 00:12 !whereis dingotron 00:12 terrapin: [hdf-us] dingotron [evil]: (Con Hob Fem Cha) T:33279 The Dungeons of Doom level: 29 00:12 oh i see 00:12 I am not used to having negative luck 00:12 are you playing on non-chaotic orc somewhere? 00:12 s/on/a 00:13 p. sure that whereis isn't even accurate 00:14 i'm confused where the negative luck came from if dingotron is chaotic 00:14 whereis updates every 50 turns 00:16 I killed a peaceful monster 00:16 isn't that just -1? 00:16 and yet "Set to 0 Sacrificing and having a "feeling of reconciliation" when your Luck is negative." I had a feeling of reconciliation 00:17 but could not pray 00:17 an since it's a full moon -1 shouldn't have been enough to get you negative anyway 00:18 could maybe be negative alignment record but that would take some real effort 00:19 Reconciliation is just prayer timeout, doesn't mention alignment/Luck 00:20 Does blue dragon breath have a chance of destroying wands+rings? 00:20 Like a shocking sphere? 00:21 Yes, if the breath hits you 00:21 if you don't have reflection 00:21 Hm 00:21 theyre gonna be a bitch to fight then 00:21 K2, did you do the thing where extrinsic shock res protects inventory? 00:22 I forget if reflection also protects inventory, since it only partially reflects damage 00:22 K2 is adamant that inventory protection be artifact only, i think 00:22 but reflection works also 00:25 I had a cursed luckstone in inventory 00:25 ...that'll do it and then some 00:25 You cant have that xd 00:25 be nice if we could just lead with these details 00:26 Also before I forget: kobolds' starting darts can be poisoned, yeah? 00:28 1% chance like any edged weapon 00:29 Bet. 00:29 Oh, I mean vanilla ftr 00:29 Probably same answer but worth clarifying 00:30 yeah looks the same for vanilla 00:31 👍 00:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Ran Orc Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:10921 (4:04:00) 00:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Ran Orc Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:10969 (4:05:42) 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2032 points, T:2919, killed by a bolt of fire 00:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:60267 (16:42:13) 00:38 Forgot how hard Croesus hit in melee 00:38 Crazy 00:39 Most everyone seems to 00:39 and finally, I can pray successfully 00:42 Are there any other monsters who will be a threat to Archons? 00:42 Just got a throne geno 00:43 Maybe antimatter vortexes and black dragons 00:43 Probably black dragons if you don't want them to poof themselves 00:43 Yeah 00:43 Antimatter too? They can't be engulfed, but can still hit weapons on the side 00:43 @e?antimatter vortex 00:43 antimatter vortex (v) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d10 engulf disintegrate, 0d0 passive disintegrate | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, unsolid, infravis, passes-bars, vegan 00:43 The passive is more than enough justification 00:43 yeah has passive disint 00:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:60429 (16:47:35) 00:46 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:48 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 01:02 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 01:14 pretty sure pets don't attack passive disintegrators anymore, so in theory a reflecting archon should be safe 01:15 I feel like even if it doesn't engulf a disint attack making contact might do it 01:15 I checked in wizard mode. It was disintegrated within a few turns 01:15 To a beholder 01:15 Oh for passive 01:16 idk 01:16 better be safe than sorry 01:16 if something attacks a pet, the pet tends to retaliate 01:16 yeah 01:16 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:16 disint is gg too 01:16 No chance to revive 01:18 oh yeah forgot beholders, those will definitely dust them 01:23 Noisytoot, I am playing a chaotic artiwishless atheist this game so I don't think Purity is in the cards 01:24 "Unlike with scrolls, you may not copy a spellbook by appearance unless you have formally identified the spellbook." 01:24 ^from [[magic marker]] 01:24 nvm, brain misparsed it briefly 01:24 But may as well ask the other question: you can't write scrolls by a type-name that you gave them, right? 01:25 why not, PhantomLumina? 01:25 I do 01:25 in order to have given them that type-name, you must have seen the label with the magic words 01:25 Lemme go write a "yeetus maximus" xD 01:25 funni 01:26 tinklebear, I'm just asking to triple check so I can clarify stuff on the article 01:26 while I'm still there 01:26 err, actually, do not take my word for it 01:26 just checked, you can use a type-name 01:28 * tinklebear lately has just been copy-pasting the "VENZAR BORGAVVE" (or whatever) labels 01:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3759 (0:31:00) 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3770 (0:31:56) 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 4943 points, T:3773, killed by a bolt of fire 01:32 terrapin: So if I know ZELGO MER is "remove curse" and I type-named it "removed curses", would "removed curses" map to ZELGO MER for purposes of writing the scroll? 01:33 yes 01:34 And what if the type-name corresponds to the name of a scroll? 01:34 e.g. "remove curse" rather than "removed curses"? 01:35 in that case it would doubly work :), since you can always use the actual name of the scroll to (try) to write it 01:35 oh you're asking if you get 100% success 01:35 hmm 01:35 not even success, just "would it try to write the type-named scroll or the actual scroll" 01:36 I think I remember this question discussed last year, PhantomLumina. Sometime around tnnt-time 01:36 I think so too, don't recall the conclusion 01:36 in that case it seems you try to write the actual scroll with the normal failure chance for unknown scrolls, regardless of whether the type-name correctly matches the actual type or not 01:37 * tinklebear remembers having strong feelings about it, but does not remember the conclusion either 01:38 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:36787 (8:10:15) 01:38 I was either like "that's terrible. how could they---no, wait. I'm reading it wrong. Okay, yeah, that's just how it ought to be" 01:38 or the other way around 01:38 e.g. if you have a scroll named ELBIB YLOH that is called remove curse and is in fact remove curse, then writing 'ELBIB YLOH' will give you a remove curse scroll and writing 'remove curse' *may* give you a remove curse scroll. if it is called 'enchant armor', then writing 'enchant armor' will attempt to write an enchant armor scroll 01:39 if it is called 'probably remove curse' then writing 'probably remove curse' will give you a remove curse scroll 01:40 alright, 01:40 now with that in mind 01:40 how would this following paragraph line up? 01:40 You may enter the full name of a scroll or the short form, e.g. "scroll of light" or "light", or the [[randomized appearance|label]] of a scroll, provided that label exists in your game - said labels are case-sensitive and must always be written out in all-caps. Type-named scrolls can be written using the name you give them: as an example, if you want to write a [[scroll of remove curse]] and you have not formally identified it, but you know 01:40 that the label ZELGO MER is remove curse and have named it "removed curses", you can write the scroll using its label or the given type-name. If you attempt to write an unidentified scroll using a type-name that matches the exact name of a scroll (e.g. "remove curse" or "enchant weapon"), you will attempt to write that actual scroll, with the normal failure chance of trying to write an unidentified scroll. 01:41 looks good to me 01:43 maybe emphasize the fact that using the label/type-name-that-doesn't-match-an-exact-name will always succeed, if that isn't clearly stated elsewhere? 01:46 Do I understand this correctly? Suppose I mistakenly assign scrolls labeled ZELGO MER the label "remove curse", when in fact ZELGO MER is the appearance of enchant armor. I then try to write an "remove curse" scroll, and the game proceeds to tell me I write a letter to my mom and then throw it away? 01:47 I feel like that is the game robbing me, cheating me out of the great fun of confusing myself 01:47 * tinklebear is offended 01:48 (all over again) 01:49 terrapin, the writing success section is much further down 01:53 so "yeetus maximus" it is. for safety's sake 02:43 xD 02:43 The first BoH I'll get, will be bag of hesperides 02:43 what troll rng 02:54 it knows you're that good, imanity 02:55 I love carrying 0 items :D 03:03 Finally. Death dropped by a fucking rat 03:08 * tinklebear wonders about the historical origins of death drops 03:13 War movie period piece, historical novel sort of thing. Rob Roy, but with death drops. 03:15 there is the clock inside the crocodile in Peter Pan 03:22 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 03:25 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 03:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:66274 (19:00:09) 04:42 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 04:44 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 05:00 -!- imanity has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:20 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 05:21 Remind me, is it possible to wish for an adamantine hlem of speed? 05:21 Still need to set up wizmode on my local game 05:52 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:11 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:30 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:43 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 07:51 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:104238 (5 days, 18:02:44) 09:05 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.0.5] 09:37 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 09:38 while crushing monsters with the castle drawbridge:... 09:39 "You see a drawbridge coming up!" 09:39 "The portcullis misses the magical eye!" 09:39 "The gnomish lieutenant falls into the moat." 09:39 "You kill the gnomish lieutenant!" 09:40 "placing magical eye <15,11> over leocrotta <14,11> at <14,11>, mstates:0 0 on Dlvl:29 ?" 09:40 "Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.)" 09:40 * tinklebear will save and reload 09:41 "You hear smashing and crushing." 09:42 (Was the gnomish lieutenant riding a leocrotta? Quite possibly, but I am afraid I was not paying enough attention to be certain.) 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Ran Cen Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:31705 (6:52:36) 09:52 And later on... 09:52 "You see a drawbridge coming up!" 09:52 "The portcullis misses the acid sphere!" 09:53 "The acid sphere is crushed by the falling portcullis!" 09:53 "You kill the acid sphere!" 09:53 "The long worm disappears behind the drawbridge." 09:54 "placing defunct monster onto map, mstate:2, on Dlvl:29 ? 09:54 "Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.)" 09:55 "The long worm falls into the moat. You kill the long worm!" 09:55 "dmonsfree: 2 removed doesn't match 3 pending on Dlvl:29" 09:55 "Program in disorder! (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.)" 09:58 * tinklebear apologises for any typos due to manual copying from one device to another 09:59 * tinklebear kind of just likes to mindlessly type error messages 10:00 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 10:00 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 10:03 tinklebear: For my part the sheer joy of seeing someone actually produce error messages verbatim is well worth it 10:04 Ah, dang dmonsfree errosr 10:04 \o/ 10:18 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:38 -!- billlly has joined #evilhack 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2842 (0:13:53) 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) murdered Captain Sunshine, his faithful yellow dragon, on T:105469 (5 days, 20:54:44) 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3289 (0:16:26) 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an orc-captain, on T:9616 (1:25:19) 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3839 (0:18:48) 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a small mimic corpse on an altar of Odin, on T:4495 (0:31:53) 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 5316 points, T:4796, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:6787 (0:44:14) 11:13 -!- imanity has joined #evilhack 11:19 yay monster steed/drawbridge shenanigans 11:19 Is Medusa drain resistant? 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 449 points, T:634, killed by a magic missile 11:21 No 11:21 Good. Wasn't giving a msg when blind 11:21 and couldnt get close to use stethoscope 11:21 Thought she might have some hidden stat 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7999 (0:55:07) 11:24 Nope, just can't see its effects on her (if you wanna live). 11:24 Yeah 11:24 I could really do with the shield 11:24 hope it's in the statue 11:24 Actually, while reflection won't instakill her unless you get close enough or can stop her averting her gaze, I think it should at least prevent you instantly dying 11:24 I wouldn't quote me on this or try it live 11:25 (outside of wiztesting) 11:25 I think so too 11:25 You can look at her, but 93% of the time she wont turn to stone 11:25 But I dont even have reflection 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 23568 points, T:8276, killed by a dwarven priestess of Chih Sung-tzu 11:28 Paralyzing her is a way to guarantee she can't avert her gaze, I'm certain 11:28 her reflected gaze* 11:28 You think stunning, confusion or other impairments do the job? 11:30 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:30 Maybe 11:30 Only one way to find out xD 11:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:69813 (20:19:03) 11:36 First reflection source in 70k turns 11:36 feels good man 11:43 yay 11:50 Really good shambling horror too 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:41795 (7:08:10) 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:106383 (5 days, 22:13:36) 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:12708 (1:53:11) 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:13369 (1:58:55) 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:70614 (13:26:08) 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:70892 (13:31:38) 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:71149 (13:36:34) 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:71154 (13:36:51) 12:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Sam Gia Mal Law), 1470 points, T:2234, quit 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:43245 (7:40:47) 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43248 (7:40:52) 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:43602 (7:43:06) 13:00 gj 13:10 -!- billlly has quit [Excess Flood] 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4005 (0:22:14) 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:72769 (14:12:55) 13:14 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a garter snake corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:5515 (0:33:22) 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:45282 (8:09:24) 13:26 today is Damage Control day for this run 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5682 (0:37:58) 13:26 I only managed to wish for one marker yesterday :( 13:32 Loggers_VIII Did your dragon need to be under conflict to attack the quest leader? 13:32 no 13:32 Great 13:32 Gonna tame a few and have them kill him 13:32 pets will attack any hostile monster, they just won't attack peaceful quest monsters/leaders 13:33 Oh so you had to make him angry 13:33 the quest leader 13:33 you can do it without making him angry if you use a hostile dragon 13:33 I think using conflict would be the easiest option 13:34 Quest friendlies grudge all hostiles 13:34 conflict is unneccessary 13:34 No more dragons left on the quest level 13:34 So no way to get them back 13:34 fine, so throw a gold piece at hippo or something from far away and have your dragon digest him 13:34 Lure one through the portal maybe? 13:35 They dont spawn on DL 11 13:35 Not with that attitude 13:35 xD 13:35 Another option is rev geno dragons, but I dont have one scroll 13:36 Why wont conflict work? 13:36 I never said it wouldn't work, but there's no reason to do it 13:36 you can just anger hippo and then your dragon will kill him, and there's no risk of your dragon attacking you 13:37 Np, I can just remove ring and kite them back if that happens 13:37 If dragon fails to kill hippo 13:37 I dont want him on my ass 13:37 dragon oneshots hippo 13:37 It shouldn't 13:37 Engulfing, remember? 13:37 Yeah, but they dont use that attack always 13:38 My dragon meleed Oracle 9 times 13:38 before engulfing her 13:38 and that was one turn too late for him 13:38 I mean the attack has to actually hit 13:38 @e?oracle 13:38 Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 0 | Res: sleep poison petrification magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d6 cast clerical, 2d6 cast spell, 8d8 passive magic missile | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 13:38 for the engulf to proc 13:38 @e?hippocrates 13:38 Hippocrates (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 15 | Res: sleep poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d10 weapon physical, 2d8 cast clerical | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 13:38 Way stronger 13:38 Without as deadly a passive 13:38 And same AC 13:38 @?orange dragon 13:38 orange dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: sleep | Confer: sleep | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d25 breath sleep, 3d8 bite physical, 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 claw physical | Align: 5 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 13:38 @e?orange dragon 13:39 orange dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: sleep | Confer: sleep | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d25 breath sleep, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest, 0d2 passive slow | Align: -5 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 13:39 Passive just means it will be less likely to die 13:39 to pull one out of a hat 13:39 imanity literally yes 13:39 what level is your dragon 13:39 Dont have one yet 13:40 thinking about confused taming 3 13:40 on the 3rd level 13:40 they will be base 13:40 @e?black dragon 13:40 black dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: disintegrate | Confer: disintegrate | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 12d6 breath disintegrate, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest, 0d0 passive disintegrate | Align: -6 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 13:41 Could take them for a trip down the dungeons of doom, but there's a temple on the way whose priest I want alive 13:41 aw alchemy exploded 4 of my extra healing potions :( 13:42 You can't dip rings in holy water? 13:43 take off your gloves 13:43 Oh 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:107154 (5 days, 23:54:53) 13:43 I kind of dislike that you have to do that, since you don't have to take off your gloves to equip/unequip rings, but whatever 13:44 go tinklebear! 13:44 Yeah, weird bit of rp which fucks up usability 13:45 I would dislike rings only being equipped when you have no gloves on, but I would also dislike allowing you to dip rings with gloves on because it doesn't make sense, so I just don't talk about it 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:36557 (5:12:03) 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:36558 (5:12:06) 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7416 (0:59:53) 13:51 oh sweet. I love it when I don't have an altar and then I score orc temple mines end! 13:53 what just happened tinklbear? 13:53 *tinklebear 13:54 ahhhh 13:55 oh damn I didn't realize they were in planes 13:55 gg 13:57 I'm very nervous about his astral, since he doesn't have MR 13:57 Same 13:57 has tinklebear been MRless the entire game? 13:57 yes 13:57 uh oh he's in a pickle 13:57 phew 13:58 are tey hallucinating on purpose? 13:58 its to stop touch of death 13:58 oh right 13:58 amazing lol 13:59 yep 14:00 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 14:01 mister smith no 14:01 D: 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 2736510 points, T:107210, killed by a shadow dragon called Mister Smith (with the Amulet) 14:01 RIP 14:01 Sadge 14:01 doh 14:03 well, at least that's a unique death 14:04 heh 14:04 nice run tinklebear 14:04 :D 14:04 i'm impressed, no MR the entire game? 14:04 that is correct 14:04 wow 14:05 ok, i'm gonna make that a conduct 14:05 i approve this message 14:05 will break saves to add it, so next version 14:05 tinklebear's been hardened by permahallu runs 14:05 maybe one of the four people in the entire world who enjoy hallucinating in nethack :P 14:06 tinklebear, could you have prayed to heal from mister smith's assault? 14:07 I do not pray 14:07 ah 14:07 I just didn't prepare for the revival correctly, obviously 14:07 I won't forget to think ahead next time, though 14:08 you were too trusting in mister smith 14:08 I think in the back of my mind, I figured I probably deserved trouble if it came 14:09 because, well, there were a lot of bumps and abuse accidents 14:09 lol 14:09 all the more reason to prepare for trouble, ofc 14:09 what made mr smith go feral? 14:09 he revived feral 14:09 revival always has a chance 14:10 ah 14:10 and in this case, I think only my main unicorn mount would have revived tame at that point 14:10 (and *did* revive tame, just a few turns prior) 14:10 hardfought should have voice chat that allows me to scream in real time "noooo take out some healing potions with the wand of opening" 14:11 there were just too many accidents 14:11 healing, take off the shield, get out the harp, etc 14:11 I was at less than half HP when I revived him, I think 14:12 pretty dumb 14:12 it happens, you'll get it soon enough 14:12 you could voice chat in #nethack-hardfought on discord side 14:12 lol 14:13 heh, I guess 14:13 i really want an evilhack discord 14:13 I think we all do 14:13 i could make my own server but i'd really like it to be part of the roguelike server 14:13 i'll talk to MTF again 14:13 a couple yrs have passed, maybe their stance will have changed 14:13 \o/ 14:14 Why were they reluctant about adding one the first time? 14:15 because ##nethack-variants already exists 14:15 That reasoning is kinda cringe. Tons of variants 14:15 it's not just MTF's decision, there are a couple other admins who weighed in 14:16 MTF was for it but was overruled afaik (majority) 14:16 imanity, I think the point is basically "you already have a place to talk about variants, you don't need a channel for one variant only" 14:16 anyways. worth another try 14:16 i'll broach the subject after tnnt 14:16 cool 14:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:21 ok basement aint gonna clean itself. bbl 14:24 good luck 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of jumping boots entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:15555 (3:23:55) 14:39 I think we all do 14:39 I don't! 14:39 I hate Discord 14:40 If you want voice chat, why not Mumble? 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Pri Hob Mal Law), 2676 points, T:3009, killed by nabru's ghost 14:40 Cause we're not in the noughties any more xd 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 48299 points, T:15942, drowned in a moat, while moving through the air 14:41 It's actually possible to do voice chat over IRC: https://github.com/asiekierka/VoIRC 14:42 Discord is proprietary malware 14:43 It's far from malware. More like spyware 14:47 spyware is a form of malware 14:48 It's the least potent 14:49 Grouping discord among trojans, rootkits and the like, is disingenuous 14:50 Privacy is a myth in 2023. Everyone knows and sells your data 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:75713 (15:05:03) 14:51 so are you gonna keep proselytizing at each other or 14:57 If it'll help me convert my amulets+rings xD 14:58 the last thing I'd want is the cacophony of voice chat. We're not playing counterstrike here! 14:59 I think it'll be fun. Especially during an endgame run 14:59 libera doesn't sell your data, and nothing can sell data it doesn't have 14:59 Wait for 5 years for it to leak, that they've been collecting everything the whole time 15:00 Like all the other companies 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:75738 (15:08:21) 15:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:75739 (15:08:25) 15:02 timely prompt, I should probably get back to work on lich stuff 15:02 once I deal with the god entry 15:02 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:03 ab o/ 15:03 it's not a for-profit company, and they'd have to be running a modified ircd to collect messages 15:03 and violating their privacy policy 15:03 o/ 15:03 ab 15:04 -!- Log has joined #evilhack 15:04 -!- Log has quit [Client Quit] 15:05 staff are also volunteers and servers are donated, so where would the money be going even if they were? 15:05 That only makes it more likely 15:05 still a lot of vanilla strats I could mention but probably should start with variant things on the base lich and work up from there 15:05 me when I lie 15:05