00:04 -!- Umbire is now known as PhantomLumina 00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:2094 (0:13:15) 00:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2700 (0:16:19) 00:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an orcish helm on an altar, on T:3787 (0:22:20) 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4317 points, T:3804, killed by a fire ant 00:17 Go team a! 00:26 K2, still around? 00:31 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:34 Can anyone get me the tile for an agent real quick? 00:38 terrapin, ^ 00:45 tile? 00:46 like the pixel graphics? 00:48 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 00:49 Omg an aphrodite level. Smoky potions are obj det <3 00:58 terrapin, Yes 01:08 i'm getting there 01:08 god, i hate tiles 01:13 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a two-handed sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:21197 (3:57:01) 01:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:740 (0:04:24) 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1026 (0:06:14) 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Dro Fem Cha), 266 points, T:1537, killed by a jackal 01:19 fuck it: https://imgur.com/a/dO7fhvX 01:20 a png of all the tiles together. I no basically nothing about image editing, hopefully you find it easier to crop than I. the agent is 19th row down, 3rd from the left 01:20 That'll be the easy part thankfully 01:20 Thank you 01:20 cheers! 01:21 good night & good luck 01:21 terrapin, ah! 01:21 Before you go 01:21 yeah 01:22 What would you put as a license? 01:22 um 01:22 (like I said, the cropping was the easy part) 01:24 Technically NGPL, yeah? 01:24 i'm poking around, but i don't really know where to look 01:24 dw 'bout it then 01:24 it's probably the same as 3.6? if you happen to know what that's under 01:24 I'll play it safe 01:24 yeah NGPL 01:25 ...and the template still uses some other image because fuck me I guess 01:25 oof 01:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a large shield entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:22832 (4:11:25) 01:29 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Agent 01:33 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2864 (0:24:28) 01:34 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 01:36 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:40 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:41 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 01:42 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 01:56 alright, worked out 01:56 thanks again terrapin and g'night! 02:05 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:19 How do you take down dragons in the healer level? Feels really early to be seeing them 02:20 Is ring of slow digestion basically mandatory? I have no rustproof daggers/magic missile/drain life 02:20 Well, it means you don't get eaten. 02:20 Or swallowed, rather. 02:20 This may or may not make it easier to kill them. 02:20 Yeah. Think I can solo one of them if I reach level 12 and have innate tortle regen 02:21 tortle has regen!? 02:21 lvl 12 02:21 Ah, very nice. 02:25 Idk how I'll farm 3 levels in that time. Maybe clear up to Medusa for now 02:26 Yeah, dragons are easier to take out from the inside 02:27 The passives are a bigger problem combined with the digestion though 02:27 Especially if you dig, apparently, but somehow, I always forget that. 02:27 Digging is very good for those situations 02:27 same as sleep, dragons don't have MUCH more MR than vanilla so a lot of spells can pay dividends 02:28 Digging to get out of their ingestion attack? 02:28 Think it does half their current hp too 02:28 Yes 02:28 Don't have a wand yet, but will keep it in mind 02:29 Maybe I'll clear the catacombs and get luckstone before considering quest 02:29 Feels like I need a lot more gear 03:07 Is using a pick good for that, or do you really want a wand? 03:09 It has to be a digging spell lmao 03:09 Pretty sure you'd be interrrupted and digested if you used a pick 03:51 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:30 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 05:08 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:41 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 06:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:12 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 06:58 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:58 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 07:59 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) wished for "fireproof marker", on T:99250 (5 days, 4:24:39) 08:37 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:38 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:7715 (2:08:36) 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Hea Elf Mal Neu), 525 points, T:1812, zombified by a hobbit zombie 08:47 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:37 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:46 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:06 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 10:14 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 10:16 K2: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/File:Agent.png 10:17 cool 10:19 wanted to see if it was licensed and snipped properly 10:20 snip looks fine? no idea about license, i dont think that matters? 10:24 neat 10:37 this game I'm going to die because I don't have an easy source of blindness 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:10164 (2:50:36) 10:43 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 19852 points, T:10260, killed by Mr. Gomel; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed magic harp", on T:93650 (1 day, 5:45:47) 10:55 is ludios still guaranteed in the first vault below dlvl 10? 11:02 Should be 11:02 Provided the vault is eligible normally 11:02 (i.e. no Quest portal or what have you) 11:03 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 11:04 bouquet yes 11:04 so, if the first vault I find is on 16 but no ludios it must be somewhere between 10 -> 15? 11:04 I'd wager so 11:05 it's not looking like it :( 11:11 Try looking harder if you can 11:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:29581 (4:58:42) 11:27 ah, 16 vault is quest portal. That means it doesn't count, I think? 11:27 correct 11:27 Correct 11:27 Which is why I mentioned it before 11:27 You must go DEEPA 11:28 "Literally unplayable" -Your mom, probably 11:29 xD 11:30 any, I can't sit around here searching for vaults all day. I gotta get ready for halloween! 11:30 3spooky5me 12:00 heh 12:06 when is halloween? is it on 31st? 12:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:23942 (6:39:34) 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha), 1337 points, T:1225, killed by a hobbit zombie 12:30 k3ut0i yes 12:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:30 a special thing will happen on halloween in evilhack 12:31 ab Loggers_VIII 12:31 and yz Loggers_VIII 12:31 ab ab 12:31 gonna get some overdue sleep but check recent changes on the wiki 12:32 just realizing that last night at 12 am I chose the sokoban tool over a potential MR amulet 12:32 k 12:32 lmao it happens, it might work out 12:32 never know 12:32 on the note of the wiki, we should do up a Vlad's Tower page for EvilHack 12:32 ab 12:32 yeah, was thinking that 12:32 ab noisytoot 12:33 I can probably whip up a hidden dungeon page quickly too, if you don't wanna do that one 12:33 I might but I'm still on a vamp kick atm 12:33 since it's only one level 12:33 gotcha 12:33 have a bunch of change to Vlad's article queued up to go when I wake 12:33 changeS* 12:34 nice 12:34 can probably flesh out Kas + vamp royals more 12:34 oh yeah, vamp royals. lemme check the recent stuff 12:36 my ability to do strategy stuff varies depending on if I've played lately and/or run into the monster in question recently 12:37 yeah I get it 12:37 vamp royals in particular aren't too interesting anyway- just stronger vamp lords basically 12:38 @e?vampire royal 12:38 vampire royal (V) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 18 | Spd: 18 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Atk: 2d6 claw physical, 1d10 bite level drain | Align: -9 | genocidable, flies, breathless, regen, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis 12:38 @e?vampire mage 12:38 vampire mage (V) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 14 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -4 | Atk: 2d8 claw level drain, 1d8 bite level drain, 2d6 cast spell | Align: -9 | genocidable, flies, breathless, regen, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis 12:38 highest base speed among "mundane" vamps 12:38 @e?kas 12:38 Kas (V) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 16 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical, 1d12 bite level drain | Align: -10 | flies, breathless, regen, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, silverhate, infravis 12:38 yeah 12:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:26221 (7:05:32) 12:39 have fun with all that 12:39 I slep 12:40 Wouldn't it be cool if pets could get teleportitis? 12:40 no 12:40 night phantomlumina o/ 12:40 xd 12:42 ab 12:42 *yz 12:43 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 12:44 -!- PhantomLumina has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 12:45 yay, boh 12:46 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 12:51 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 12:53 Angels are fucking lethal as a tortle 12:54 Just got a hostile one for converting an altar 12:55 tortles have to be cautious 12:55 just entering gehennom with my tortle sammy 12:57 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:58 idk, I feel like with tortles I can just turn my brain off 12:58 and leave it up to fate xd 12:58 whether you lose all your hp this turn 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:120285 (1 day, 16:47:18) 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a spotted jelly, on T:25106 (2:56:31) 13:01 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 13:01 that could have been annoying 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) killed Tal'Gath, on T:120604 (1 day, 16:51:56) 13:05 k2, I don't think magic lamps should go out when you enter water 13:05 since you can light them underwater 13:06 also, maybe sea dragon's breath should behave differently underwater 13:07 i was thinking underwater the sea dragon's breath should just push you back one or more squares 13:07 maybe disorient you 13:07 Or it could be guaranteed to hit 13:07 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 13:07 krm26 I was thinking the same thing 13:08 and yeah, it would probably be guaranteed to hit, but it shouldn't do a lot of damage, if any at all 13:08 ye 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) performed her first genocide (beholders), on T:120898 (1 day, 16:56:15) 13:09 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 13:09 good points 13:09 Turn 28k finally getting to pray for holy water. How cringe xd 13:10 there's a black dragon on the first level of the healer quest I don't know how to deal with... 13:10 will dragons use their breath in melee? 13:10 I think only if they flee 13:10 not flee 13:10 at range 13:11 I've had many get to low hp, start fleeing then use their breath 13:11 right 13:11 you cant consistently keep them in melee as a tortle 13:11 yeah, but it's not because they're fleeing it's cause fleeing caused them to go at range. kind of a subtle distinction 13:11 because so slow 13:11 yeah 13:11 yeah I have a magic harp if I can get into melee range 13:12 lol, why is this blue dragon peaceful? weird 13:13 Alignment 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:26023 (3:09:42) 13:14 @e?blue dragon 13:14 blue dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 14 | Res: shock | Confer: shock | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 breath shock, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest | Align: -7 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 13:14 hm, nope. they're cha 13:14 Hm 13:14 maybe it was an attendant that stepped onto a polytrap 13:14 it was in the inner building, so probably 13:14 Never seen that happen 13:15 Ig only way to know is by counting all of them 13:15 Fucking hell forgot to drop my potions 13:15 lol 13:15 I hate when I do that 13:15 Ikr 13:16 see you in 200 turns xd 13:16 I have still identified exactly zero useful scrolls and I'm at the quest 13:16 I have nothing to use these markers on 13:17 I saw you chose a magic marker 13:17 Why not armor? 13:17 not a fan of 50% gauntlets of protection, or metallic helm of speed 13:17 I got the speed intrinsic from a potion, so more overall value from either boh/marker 13:17 I suppose gauntlets cant be dragonhide either 13:18 they can be, it's just really rare I think 13:18 <[> yes they can 13:18 Hmm 13:18 Is helm always metal? 13:18 because their base material is soft 13:18 imanity its base material is steel 13:18 Ugh 13:18 it might be able to spawn as bone or stone naturally but I'm not sure, I think only orcish helms do that 13:18 no bone or stone then 13:19 Maybe I go tool as well 13:19 <[> it can be bone or stone 13:19 Even so 13:19 Prob not worth taking the rest 13:19 *risk 13:19 yeah you can wish for bone/stone, but I think it will only generate as steel/iron/mithril 13:19 copper, maybe? 13:20 anyway I'm actually softlocked on the quest because there's a black dragon next to the stairs on the level down so it's time to go to the castle 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:121390 (1 day, 17:07:48) 13:21 I do have one pet black dragon now, but no reflection so probably gonna leave it here 13:25 13 smoky potions with no djinni created. Statistically, should give me a wish 13:25 three types of lies 13:25 lies, damn lies, and statistics 13:25 xD 13:28 if i stack up 40 smoky potions the rng will usually give me two wishes, the f*er 13:30 Nope. Just a pet :))) 13:31 yay, amulet of reflection! 13:31 now you can weaponize your pet! 13:31 so magic marker was the best choice, since soko had amulet of reflection 13:32 aphrodite just teleported next to me and stole vorpal blade >:( 13:33 Sneaky gril 13:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:29191 (8:00:21) 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:27219 (3:24:58) 13:33 thank god for attack wonds 13:33 *wands 13:33 i don't *think* she will ever use it on you anyway 13:34 Does she even have a weapon attack? 13:34 this phonetic spelling is getting out of hand 13:34 no 13:34 e@?aphrodite 13:34 I was just annoyed because it's my only weapon :) 13:34 claw steal item, claw charm 13:34 @e?aphrodite 13:34 Aphrodite (n) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 0d0 claw item steal, 0d0 claw seduce | Align: 0 | tele, nopoly, stalker, infravis 13:34 yeah 13:36 Idk if this djinn is even worth keeping around 13:36 Maybe as experimental fodder for polytraps? 13:37 if I get pet djinn I just ditch it in a closet somewhere 13:37 Don't wanna take the 1/25 chance with each polymorph, that my alignment abuse gets fucked 13:38 alignment abuse doesn't matter for healers, just kite one of the dragons into killing hippo with its breath before you get the QA 13:39 I mean for shuddering a pet 13:39 counts as killing it 13:39 I know, I'm saying it doesn't matter since healers can easily avoid the chance of the leader asking for the QA back 13:39 by killing him indirectly 13:40 What is a killing hippo? 13:40 Oh the quest leader's name? 13:40 xD 13:40 hippocrates (the quest leader) 13:40 yeah lol 13:40 I thought new monster 13:41 Or I could have my pet kill it 13:41 heh 13:41 pets won't attack quest leaders/guardians 13:41 Hm 13:41 unless you've already angered them 13:42 and hippo's actually pretty strong, and it's hard to escape from him 13:42 Does he have any good items? 13:43 Idk, I think he has an enchanted silver dagger or something 13:43 Ig most of his power is in base form then 13:43 rather than shield of reflection or something cool 13:43 all of the quest monsters carry potions of healing too so if you can get a dragon to kill them you can get those 13:43 @e?hippocrates 13:43 Hippocrates (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 15 | Res: sleep poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d10 weapon physical, 2d8 cast clerical | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 13:44 he's speed 15 and casts clerical spells, so he's hard to shake off 13:44 ig standing behind him with black dragon on the other side is best bet 13:44 omg having a black dragon pet is so unimaginably badass 13:44 every dragon's getting oneshot 13:44 Aren't you afraid of wall bounces? 13:45 I have reflection now, so no 13:45 Oh nice 13:45 aren't many walls in the healer quest anyway, mainly just big open space 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:121683 (1 day, 17:36:58) 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2097 points, T:2012, killed by a blast of frost, while praying 13:50 oooh new player to give us bones 13:50 never know what to do with the wand of wishing as a tortle...into the bag it goes 13:50 Praying cannot save you from the frost gods Shrigis! 13:51 markers 13:51 oh god oh fuck a trapdoor took me down to the cyclops level 13:52 phew, telecontrol+levelport got me outta there 13:52 loggers your screen is so tall. 13:52 Only got one spellbook, and it ID-d as magic missile :) 13:53 Vertical monitor? 13:53 yeah kind of 13:53 super old mac desktop 13:54 No worries, as long as it can play nethack. 13:54 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:54 It's modern enough :P 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Ith Mal Una), 174 points, T:330, killed by draining his own life force 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:28711 (3:47:05) 13:55 yeah true :P 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28714 (3:47:14) 13:56 that was a clean cyclops kill, I'm proud of that 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) refused to give up The Staff of Aesculapius to Hippocrates, on T:28859 (3:48:50) 13:59 I don't think this dragon is high enough level to attack hippo 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:121801 (1 day, 17:47:03) 13:59 hm, nevermind, it should be 13:59 phew, that was close 13:59 Emergency genocide? 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Hippocrates, on T:29062 (3:51:14) 14:00 What did he drop? 14:00 "Gaagaagi swallows hippocrates. Burrrrp!" 14:00 never gets old 14:00 uh, lemme check 14:00 a leather jacket and a dagger 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:121869 (1 day, 17:48:06) 14:00 WORTH :D 14:01 okay that's enough nethack for now. I have Responsibilities that as a Law-Abiding Citizen I must attend to 14:01 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:02 sigh, rng is gonna let a single alhoon drain me to death 14:02 lovely 3 int 14:02 D: 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3580 (0:27:06) 14:04 being slow and hittable isnt great 14:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3708 (0:28:46) 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 2756 points, T:3753, killed by a piranha 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Con Ith Mal Cha), 697 points, T:1601, killed by a giant mosquito 14:12 Is the object material preserved when polypiling armor? 14:12 no 14:12 So you could polypile leather and get dragonhide? 14:12 yes 14:12 I'll have to collect them then 14:16 chances of getting dragonhide out of a poly are very remote 14:16 Still, if it saves a wish 14:16 if you poly just magic armor you are likely to get some different magic armor 14:16 it won't save you a wish 14:17 Oh. Ig I'll only collect magic armor then 14:17 when you finally get dragonhide itll be like dragonhide leather armor that you wont care about, you'll never get dragonhide boots of speed 14:17 I have some of that dragonhide leather armor xD 14:17 if you poly a pile of just magic armor then maybe a third to a half of the results will be magic, and they COULD be dragonhide, but they wont be :-) 14:17 its good shit. I stare at it all day :D 14:18 Beats collecting dust in my magic chest 14:18 if you want some random dragonhide non-magic armor then ludios produces so much stuff you've got a good shot at some gloves or boots 14:18 i have occasionally polymorphed all my magic armor in a search for the right hooa...that's about the only time ive found it worthwhile 14:19 Already have dragonhide gloves and tortles can't wear boots 14:20 Helm of brilliance too 14:20 tortles need their helm of speed 14:20 Depends if I can get enough to polymorph 14:20 would be able to use boots then 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:122284 (1 day, 18:08:44) 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +3 excalibur", on T:122296 (1 day, 18:11:00) 14:24 there, that fixes my stupid crowning mistake 14:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) wished for "uncursed marker", on T:122302 (1 day, 18:12:01) 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1211 (0:14:54) 14:35 odd that runeswords and elven broadswords have the same appearance 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha), 8896 points, T:6271, killed by a soldier ant 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Shrigis (Inf Ith Mal Una), 6474 points, T:3690, killed by a giant cockroach 14:53 lawful crowning should unlock dipping for excalibur 14:54 Lawfuls should have hostile yeenoghu spawn in their face when they start the game 14:54 as punishment for choosing lawful xd 14:56 what do chaotics get? 14:56 a lawful demon lord? an archon? 14:56 69 tame archons :) 14:57 archons are lawful 14:57 Thats why theyre tame 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 1316 points, T:1868, killed by a wand, while fainted from lack of food 15:03 make yeenoghu tame for lawfuls then 15:05 As I said Noisytoot, that's their punishment for playing lawful 15:15 Lol the power of lawful in vanilla is mainly Excalibur I think. 15:15 Is there clear advantages in evilhack plyaing a lawful? 15:16 A crippling superiority complex xD 15:17 :P 15:18 Easier mines? 15:19 Personally I dont like peaceful mines 15:19 If hobbit pickpockets are peaceful, for example, you'll never get the chance of a lockpick 15:23 Oh right peaceful mines means that you may less likely be killed by some attacking wands and maybe polymorphed monsters. 15:23 Hardly play lawful. 15:24 I'm not sure, hobbit pickpockets are chaotic I think? 15:24 Dramborleg (weapon-slot MR) 15:24 Many of them were neutral when I was descending as a neutral 15:24 *many of them were peaceful 15:24 Pet had to kill them 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:3651 (1:05:37) 15:25 Okay lawful artifacts. 15:25 And can obtain purity. 15:26 Yeah, being able to obtain purity without hooa/conversion/wish is a huge boon 15:26 imanity I usually kill them by myself, maybe often only 3 or 4 in 20k turns. 15:26 anyone can obtain purity without that if you are patient 15:26 Isnt grayswandir lawful only? 15:26 so god will never give it 15:26 your enemies will show up and try to smite you with sunsword and demonbane eventually 15:26 grayswandir is lawful 15:27 and neither sunsword nor demonbane are ingredients for purity 15:27 grayswandir is the only one you've gotta wish/convert for 15:27 sorry i was thinking of the hammer 15:27 purity is also best for lawful 15:27 Lol I see that's a way more patient way, I may just wish one. 15:27 Yes and k2 told me that chaotic wearing them may break in chance. 15:28 it is a very small chance but can be dangerous 15:28 1/20k turn of uneqipping 15:28 definitely need a stop alert for it 15:28 gonna happen at the worst possible time 15:28 like when surrounded by alhoons 15:28 or was it 1/2k? 15:28 cant rememebr 15:29 k2 what was chance of GoP unequipping for chaotics? 15:29 Maybe 1/2k every turn iirc. 15:29 that's far more frequent than is safe 15:29 at least the way I play 15:31 I think so too. 15:31 odds are 1 in 2000 15:34 it seems it's 20% chance it may break in 500 turns. 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Ran Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a gold triangular amulet on an altar, on T:4052 (1:14:40) 15:44 Do staff of matter's effects stack with a robe? 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Splunge's ghost, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:32867 (5:29:30) 15:45 wow, dlvl 20 bones! 15:45 thanks, Splunge. 15:46 Fine. 15:47 imanity i don't know but, are those staffs magical? 15:47 And when polymorphing them, will they more likely become other magical weapons? 15:48 They are magical 15:48 yes 15:49 Yes they stack. 15:50 I think it's useful to cast polymorph. 15:50 It is 15:50 Even a role who's restriced completely on attack spells 15:50 I tried in wizard mode, robe make polymorph 95%, then the staff makes the polymorph spell 45% fail rate. 15:50 should be able to cast poly with 100% success rate at 25 int 15:50 Are you lvl 30 with 25 int? 15:51 or wisdom 15:51 I started a con dro, level 1 and 13 int lol. 15:51 xD 15:51 I'll try 15:52 Yes it's 0% fail rate. 15:52 And if 20 int I got 19%. 15:52 nice 15:52 Most races can get to +25 int/wisdom with fully enchanted HoB 15:52 So potentially viable when polypiling 15:53 and can wish for EotA or make GoP for spell regen 15:53 I see, those staffs are more powerful than I think. 15:53 Then nearly all roles are capable at cast every spells. 15:53 Not FoD 15:54 Spell calculator gives it a 57% chance, reduced from 81% when not wearing a robe 15:54 So I assume that'll be another 24% reduction with staff, at most 15:54 Same with cancellation 15:54 I see my 25 int con dro with staff of war can cast finger of death with 2% fail rate. 15:55 Wow 15:55 Are you unskilled in attack? 15:55 Ah yes. 15:55 I can reach 0% when basic. 15:55 still that's pretty good 15:55 Didnt think staves of war made so much difference 15:56 damn, mobileuser. you got a 6 streak?? congrats! 15:56 Seems it's because high int. 15:56 I think having 25 is the key 15:56 thank you rebatela! 15:56 Gz 15:56 giants for example will never be able to get 25 15:56 Hobbits will struggle 15:56 I now have more infidel ascs than you have monk ascs :-P 15:57 Well but the basic skill is still crucial. 15:57 Maybe for FoD or cancellation 15:57 But otherwise, all is needed are the staff, 25 stat and robe 15:57 mobileuser you infidel master. 15:58 You can do more lol :O 15:58 i haven't really played much, but that's awesome! 15:58 I think I need color those stave, I have seen etched staff but I forget about those. 15:59 well I have done all roles at least 3 times xdminsy 15:59 i think you mistyped 3000 times mobileuser 15:59 haha! 15:59 meant to say i haven't BEEN playing much lately. Gonna change that though i think 16:00 Lol then you are master of evilhack! 16:00 the question is, are you gonna play something other than monk :-) 16:00 current monk looking good! 16:00 krm26: no 16:00 ;) 16:01 there was a time long ago when I played priest exclusively (vanilla though) 16:01 if i could only play one role, i would pick priest over monk...get frustrated not being able to use cool crap i find on the floor in the early game :-) 16:02 infidels are the best for that. what is that? who cares, try it on! 16:02 yeah. It's nice NOT having to worry about a weapon or armor. l think the wiki says that in the monk entry and it seems like a crazy thing but it's true once you get used to it 16:03 my head explodes when i find vorpal blade lying in a shop on level 2 as a monk 16:03 the Purity gloves sure feel like a weapon sometimes 16:03 i like finding it like that because then I know someone isn't going to use it on me in Astral 16:04 giants for example will never be able to get 25 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:25492 (5:02:44) 16:04 overenchanted equipment exists 16:04 it does suck getting all those weapons from sacrificing though when all you want is dragonbane 16:04 Aren't they capped at 14? 16:04 So you're telling me you want to spend hundreds of thousands of turns enchanting a HoB to 25? 16:04 it's definitely cooler now that you get shuriken somtimes if the contacts is intact 16:04 *11 16:05 Just because it exists doesnt make it practical 16:05 it's weird though because you want to sacrifice with as low an XL as possible as a monk 16:05 no, I'm saying it's theoretically possible 16:05 isn't it centaurs that are capped at 14? 16:05 making shuriken is gross -- this tortle sammy i'm running has like 150 +6 steel shuriken, and it is about time to make some silver for the big bads 16:05 centaurs are capped at 12 16:06 giant is 14 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided beholders, on T:94212 (1 day, 6:25:00) 16:18 does writing dig take less ink now that it is lvl 3? charm cost more so i'm hoping it's been adjusted as well? 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2800106 points, T:94348, choked on a snark corpse 16:23 FUCK 16:23 missed that i was full 16:24 so so so so stupiud 16:24 urgh :-( 16:24 :( 16:25 !lastgame tealbare 16:25 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tealbare/evilhack/dumplog/1697854683.evil.html 16:27 D: 16:29 Tempted to use a wraith to drain myself to buy more protection 16:29 But it's kinda risky 16:29 what are you doing eating meat as a monk anyway, heathen! 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:102371 (5 days, 12:01:45) 16:34 imanity: don't do that unless you have a source of drain resistance that you can wield when you reach XL1 16:34 s/wield/wield or otherwise enable/ 16:34 Yeah 16:34 It's kinda greedy 16:36 Maybe after quest 16:36 Found another temple 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) genocided disenchanters, on T:125286 (1 day, 20:24:47) 16:43 Or maybe tame a wraith then wearing ring of conflict? 16:43 It's fine. Wielding the staff will only take a turn, and I'm only planning on draining myself to 3 16:44 Would have to waste my only scroll of taming on a wraith 16:45 Why aren't there weapon of decay. 16:46 We can use them to drain ourselves to buy AC. 16:46 That would be really strong though 16:46 Vs mobs 16:46 Not even 2 of the riders have drain resist 16:47 Ig the price for cheap protection, is the risk of death 16:47 And maybe a goblin throwing a dagger of decay at you on first floor :P 16:47 xD 16:48 stormbringer exists 16:48 Oh I think of it, healers can cast drain life later, that's fine. 16:48 Neutral 16:48 They can, but you need the spellbook 16:48 such a low chance 16:49 Yes may not be viable in early game. 16:49 healers have their QA 16:49 Can they throw that? 16:49 LIke stormie? 16:50 yes? 16:50 why not? 16:50 Nice 16:50 Feels like it would do a ton of dmg tho 16:50 not too much 16:50 quarterstaff has bad base damage compared to runesword 16:51 1d6 x2 because not drain resistant+ 1d8 16:51 only 1d6 base damage, a two-handed weapon that's worse than a short sword 16:51 Could be 20 damage 16:51 what's the 1d8? 16:51 the life-draining itself applies a further +1d8 damage to the target's current and maximum HP 16:51 From wiki 16:51 that's vs monsters 16:52 Wouldnt it count against you if throwing it up? 16:52 no 16:52 vs players it's just level drain 16:52 Oh so only 12 max dmg then 16:52 1d8 is the amount of HP monsters get per level, for players it's different 16:52 at least in vanilla, I think evilhack has different die sizes for differently sized monsters 16:52 yeah 16:52 that's not too bad 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2888 (0:18:57) 16:53 Increased my stats by a ton since leveling too 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:126366 (1 day, 20:40:43) 16:55 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2640 points, T:4015, quit 16:58 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:00 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:102574 (5 days, 12:28:21) 17:00 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:102576 (5 days, 12:28:44) 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 6486 points, T:5024, killed by an invisible troll 17:09 levitating over lava, lich curses hesperides from blessed to cursed before you get a reaction -- so badly overloaded you have to drop the bag into lava :-) 17:10 Krm you can get it out tho, right? 17:11 yes, recoverable. hesperides is fireproof, so you just have to ice everything up and dig for it, then cancel it 17:11 Good 17:11 still a very surprising event, one that is particular to super-slow tortles. otherwise two steps of bag cursing in what is in effect one round wouldnt happen 17:11 still takes a very bad rng 17:11 yeah 17:17 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Inf Elf Fem Una), 736 points, T:842, killed by a pony 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 2270 points, T:2096, killed by a tiger 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:102917 (5 days, 13:06:12) 17:38 When holding down the repeat action key for invoking magic 8 ball, is there an automatic stop message when you get a wish proc? 17:38 Wouldnt want to waste the wish 17:53 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:15 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 18:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:34841 (10:54:04) 18:18 Hm pet ended up dying 18:19 that sucks 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed the elven high priest of Moloch, on T:103237 (5 days, 13:48:09) 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:4373 (0:57:07) 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:103254 (5 days, 13:50:43) 18:44 pets who touch the oracle almost always die imanity 18:44 keep your pegasi away 18:45 Normally dragons live long enough to at least be healed 18:45 they love self-immolating on the oracle 18:45 I was expecting it to be critical hp 18:45 but still live 18:45 From the log, looks like it engulfed and died on the last tick of mm 18:45 no turn for me to heal cause tortle slow af 18:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:38228 (11:29:56) 19:06 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:103386 (5 days, 14:34:10) 19:09 man vecna has just totally handed me my ass 19:10 No boulder fort? 19:10 summoned player monster with wand of striking 19:10 Oh 19:10 hate it when they appear 19:10 and casters who kept blowing up my potions of full healing as i slowly tried to tortle-drink them 19:10 I think polyform is the play for tortles 19:11 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 19:13 not being lawful so i could use the sword of kas would be nice 19:13 you can 19:14 it'll blast you but you can use it 19:16 yeah but then i'm being naughty 19:22 xD 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gargantuan spider, on T:15903 (5:19:56) 19:23 lol threw a poly potion at me! son of a 19:24 K2 when you use repeat action command for magic 8 ball, is there a stop command when you finally get the wish? 19:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:128332 (1 day, 22:05:58) 19:30 well that was an involved panoply of horrors crossing over two levels and running through 100 shuriken 19:31 only used 15 potions of full healing! 19:31 imanity prob not 19:32 So is there a chance of missing it? 19:32 no imanity, you end up at the wish prompt 19:32 Oh good 19:33 even is you hold down ctrl A 19:33 loggers is the eight ball expert, i've never found a shortage of wishes in evilhack to make me go down that awful path 19:33 xD 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:103622 (5 days, 15:01:59) 19:34 nor would i add a stop command to make it easier to just ride a key combo to get the wish from the 8 ball 19:34 You can't hang on every line for 10k turns tho :P 19:34 loggers enters chat 19:35 lol 19:36 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 19:37 I can't even go toe to toe with a dragon at -21 AC 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) genocided alhoons, on T:128753 (1 day, 22:14:23) 19:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:128815 (1 day, 22:16:18) 19:41 @e?Vecna 19:41 Vecna (L) | Lvl: 99 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 8d6 touch cold, 6d6 touch wither, 3d4 gaze Death, 4d6 cast spell, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous 19:41 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/abc3bd8f33d4...e43778f1ba05 19:41 [EvilHack] k21971 e43778f - Fix: prevent magic lamps from being extinguished when entering a pool. 19:42 just checked wiki. It's 100k turns xd 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:128980 (1 day, 22:21:08) 19:47 ugh having mc1 for an entire game is sooooo yuccccky 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:16211 (5:45:55) 19:52 Do you have to apply the ball, or can you invoke it? 19:53 applied 19:53 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by Mog, on T:16764 (5:52:49) 19:58 and the line which comes up when successful is "you may wish for an object? 19:59 *object?" 19:59 *object."? 19:59 normal wish prompt 19:59 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:00 o/ 20:00 o/ 20:00 welcome to magic 8 ball hell 20:00 why 20:00 Need the wish 20:00 why would you do that? 20:00 literally for what 20:00 I cant even fight a dragon 20:00 "For what do you wish" 20:00 Let alone the 25 or so which appear 20:00 The you way wish for an object prompt only shows up in verbose mode 20:01 “The magic 8 ball has granted you a wish!” If we’re being more specific 20:01 but also, just don’t donit 20:01 * do it 20:01 Come fight this dragon for me :( 20:01 It took me like 3 days last time and I hated every second of it 20:01 -21 AC, he takes 1/3rd my hp each turn 20:01 i think you mean "8-Ball" :-) 20:02 I am calling genuine skill issue on this one 20:02 kill him at range imanity 20:02 Get vorpal blade, profit 20:02 He's a blue dragon. Too fast 20:02 and there's an orange and silver dragon below me 20:02 vorpal blade and healing spells is good for any dragon, including shadow dragons 20:03 what level/race/role are you? 20:03 though this is by Loggers standards, so hmm 20:03 Hmm I could just go get crowned 20:03 Tortle healer, 10 20:03 Do you have slow digestion? 20:03 Yes 20:03 charm the dragons 20:03 or let the dragons eat you and dig 20:03 Only got 1 scroll of taming 20:03 you can do the magic 8 ball but it really should be a total last resort 20:03 take off the ring of slow digestion, pull out a couple wands of digging, kill them from inside 20:04 any dragon besides black and sometimes orange is doable for a tortle healer with digging wand and vorpal blsde 20:04 I think our speed difference is way too much 20:04 he'll digest me in 2 turns 20:04 Have you considered just skipping the quest? 20:04 no he wont 20:04 I need that weapon 20:04 swallow, first round, dig, you're out 20:04 +0 silver elven dagger 20:04 now he is at half health 20:04 rinse and repeat 20:04 Does dig put you outside? 20:04 or just leave him at half hp 20:04 dig puts you out 20:04 Both 20:05 Maybe I'll try it 20:05 when health is low enough start swinging 20:05 But melee is another problem 20:05 I would get vorpal 20:05 and if your health gets low, i hear you are a healer 20:05 Maybe vorpal is the play 20:05 screw vorpal, you should have a stack of missile weapons 20:05 I have about 15 +0 daggers 20:05 screw missile weapons 20:06 15 +7 daggers and you're in business 20:06 +7 silver elven daggers of frost preferably 20:06 vorpal has good base damage, especially for a healer, and there’s always the instakill chance 20:06 Fat chance I'll get them xd 20:06 Only hope is rely on instakill 20:06 you make em 20:06 No warhammer 20:06 Thats how bad my game is going xd 20:07 how early in the game are you? what levels are you down to? 20:07 Explored to around DL 17 20:07 Collected luckstone 20:07 bottom of mines? all sokoban? all quest? 20:07 Beat sokoban 20:07 Not quest cause dragon 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a bone two-handed sword entrusted to her by Mog, on T:17256 (6:04:38) 20:07 From experience, you can just get vorpal and a couple escape/offensive tools up your sleeve and murder the whole quest 20:07 mog pls 20:07 level 10 down to dl17 seems ill advised if you don't have good loot 20:07 also, what are you going to do about the cyclops? 20:07 do you want me to get the amulet or not 20:08 Put him to sleep 20:08 mog is a known dope ssnufd 20:08 what, if he wakes up 20:08 lol 20:08 and daggerstorm then sleep then kite 20:08 you can’t kite him, he’s covetous 20:08 I know 20:08 do gods give artifacts anymore or just low boots and spears 20:08 I kite to my dagger square 20:08 then put him to sleep again 20:08 chance based on your level ssnufd 20:08 He will destroy you 20:08 thank you krm26 20:08 you can get an artifact at low level, but higher chance of other armor/weapons 20:09 i think by level 24 it is all artifacts all the time 20:09 but by 15ish it is at least 50% 20:09 the cyclops has taken one of my tortle healers from 197 HP to 9 in two turns 20:09 yeah tortle vs cyclops is tough 20:09 thats double the hp I have now xd 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a steel knife entrusted to her by Mog, on T:17763 (6:06:38) 20:09 with your damage, he will totally wake up 20:09 to make it sleazy, potions of paralysis 20:09 MOG 20:10 Yeah, lots of little hits isnt very effective 20:10 paralysis is about as good as sleep, no? 20:10 No free action 20:10 do you have any offensive spells 20:10 as i understand it with sleep they have a chance of waking up each time you beat on them, with paralysis it is just a pregenerated time 20:11 ah makes sense krm26 20:11 so para that rolls like 15 turns is flat better than sleep, but that rolls 3 turns may be worse 20:11 @e?cyclops 20:11 Cyclops (H) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d8 weapon physical, 2d6 claw amulet steal, 4d8 weapon knockback | Align: -15 | omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 20:11 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Mog, on T:18374 (6:08:38) 20:11 my anecdotal results are that para is slightly better, unless you have a to-hit problem 20:11 I have magic missile 20:11 oh, perfect! 20:11 But dont think it will do enough dmg 20:11 magic missile can crush cyclops 20:11 and if any other dragons come 20:12 I'll die 20:12 make sure it bounces 20:12 you can zap magic missile from underwater and he can’t retaliate 20:12 Hmm could try 20:12 boulder forts don’t work cause he’s giant, fwiw 20:12 loggers is right although i've avoided that particular sleaze 20:12 yeah he'll smash them 20:12 word of warning, I have done the magic missile thing and still died 20:12 you can always just scare off the dragons with a bugle or whatever 20:13 Dont have one 20:13 you can’t see where he is underwater, since he doesn’t gly 20:13 *fly 20:13 how can you not have a bugle by dl17 20:13 I have telepathy 20:13 you haven't done ludios? 20:13 No 20:13 Telepathy doesn’t work either 20:13 He's mindless? 20:13 which is bs but whateber 20:13 do ludios 20:13 Like all cyclops xd 20:13 No, you can’t detect land monsters with telepathy from underwater 20:13 you can practice on the fewer number of ludios dragons 20:13 That's weird 20:14 I'll do after this. magic missile is almost forgotten 20:14 Yes, especially since you can detect water monsters from land 20:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:4543 (1:17:13) 20:15 if you want to do the magic 8 ball thing lock yourself in the goblin town room and clear your schedule for the next day or so 20:15 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2059 (0:09:00) 20:15 Doing it 20:15 Just added 2 stop msges 20:15 hopefully will work 20:15 that can't be the right strategy, you are punishing yourself 20:15 this is like nuking an anthill but whatever it’s funny 20:16 Idk what I'll even wish for 20:16 then dont do it 20:16 boo, you know you want to 20:16 Too far gone. Magic missile is forgotten 20:16 So nothing to lose 20:16 No book? 20:16 I have bok 20:16 *book 20:16 you can read a book 4 times 20:16 But those charges will still be here 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Mog, on T:19528 (6:13:53) 20:17 Banging head on dragons will onyl waste time 20:17 Maybe I wish for archon figurine 20:17 would solve all my problems 20:17 what is your gear? 20:17 +0 stone helm 20:17 +0 dragonhide gloves 20:17 thats it xd 20:17 do you have no coaligned altar? 20:18 I have one 20:18 But want to get into mmf polyform first 20:18 what? 20:18 if you give an archon good armor and SoA it will solo the entire game for you 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2288 (0:11:40) 20:18 So golden glows arent wasted 20:18 omigod sacrifice for something that isn't crap 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:19916 (6:15:40) 20:18 it'll be 100k turns faster than the 98 ball 20:18 go ssnufd! 20:18 that's the way you do it imanity 20:18 But 100k turns will go by in hours 20:19 30 dwarven spears later krm26 20:19 I mean, it’s not like you have a finite amount of golden glows 20:19 True 20:19 It's a temple too 20:19 Maybe I just go there 20:19 imanity I know you think it will be fast but it won’t be 20:19 you will have to pray for food like every 7 minutes 20:19 Even with slow digestion? 20:20 so it’s hard to just get immersed in something else and ignore it 20:20 yes 20:20 Hm 20:20 imanity, i am begging you, go altar camp for 5000 turns and see how things turn around 20:20 cant put on movie and chill then 20:20 ok 20:20 will try 20:20 it'll take 20 minutes of real time 20:20 and your god is dying to give you the spears he didn't get to give ssnufd yet 20:21 xD 20:21 lol 20:21 cant wait 20:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:24 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:25 I've done the quest and still no enchant weapon -_- 20:27 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 20:29 ooh nice, learned magic missile and sleep 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Ran Orc Mal Cha) had a cloth studded armor entrusted to him by Mars, on T:5711 (1:35:23) 20:33 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a small shield entrusted to her by Mog, on T:21322 (6:30:27) 20:36 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) became Mog's Envoy of Balance, on T:22419 (6:33:52) 20:37 that's weird, I wonder why the crowning livelog messages are different between roles 20:39 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a shield of light entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:48058 (12:59:34) 20:45 lol 20:45 Good start xD 20:46 If only I could accept the quest this would be so much easier 20:46 Maybe I use my shield to get more AC and try round 2 vs dragons 20:47 dagger of venom has same instakill chance as vorpal I think 20:47 any venom weapon is great against dragons 20:47 Does it have 10% instakill chance? 20:48 yes 20:48 Ooh 20:48 vorpal is only 5%, ftr 20:49 all dragons are vulnerable to poison besides green 20:49 Ye 20:49 and can't get unrestricted in long swords 20:49 well, and tiamat 20:49 I hope I dont meet her xd 20:49 Demonbane will solve the problem, but it's getting the weapon before meeting 20:50 are you going to use hooa to get lawful artis? 20:50 No. I already have 10 points of protection 20:50 I could kill the minetown priest and go to the co-aligned temple priest 20:50 but would need another pet first 20:51 murder :D 20:51 xD 20:51 redrum 20:52 q to quaff 20:54 if I stone to flesh a statue of my black dragon, will I have to tame it again? 20:54 maybe 20:54 I think there's a chance 20:54 based on abuse 20:54 but always 5% flat chance of it coming back non-tame 20:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32729 (4:22:47) 20:56 yay, she came back tame 20:58 * tinklebear rejoices 21:02 tinklebear how is your MR-less adventure going? 21:02 saw you killed graz'zt the other day 21:02 heh, yeah. I thought graz'zt was going to be an easy kill 21:03 but no1 21:03 *no! 21:03 today I made it back to the castle with the amulet, 21:03 so I'm pretty chuffed! 21:04 yeah he's the hardest demon prince apart from lucifer imo 21:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 21:05 his little posse of pitfiends, balrogs and nalfeshee were surprisingly tough, too. 21:05 almost lost it to them 21:05 yep, they'll getcha 21:05 what is your plan for astral? since the melee attacks of the angels will be doing full damage 21:05 woolly rain? 21:06 probably no wooly rain, I don't think 21:06 aw 21:06 I think my quest artifact give half spell damage, so that might help 21:07 half spell damage sadly doesn't affect the melee missile attack 21:07 oh noes 21:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:50422 (13:22:11) 21:07 I wonder if shadow rain would work out. kind of leaning toward something like that 21:08 if you do that have a couple extra taming scrolls handy, since shadow dragons have 25 MR 21:08 just in case 21:09 cool 21:10 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:10 how do you deal with destroy armor? 21:10 oh yeah, good question. since you're not nudist in this one 21:10 hasn't really happened. I stay on the unicorn, and so speed helps I think 21:10 @e?unicorn 21:10 unicorn ~3~ Norn (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 15 | Res: cold sleep poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d10 weapon physical, 4d10 weapon physical | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 21:10 @e?white unicorn 21:10 white unicorn (u) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 24 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 70 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 1d12 butt physical, 1d6 kick physical | Align: 7 | genocidable, herbivore, infravis 21:11 fast as a warhorse, and won't attack shopkeepers 21:11 they're cute! 21:11 smart choice of role with knight; QA gives slotless reflection and halfspell damage, riding gives extra speed and jousting lets you stunlock bosses 21:12 yes. the stunlock does most of the work 21:12 and killing spellcasters before they can see you, when possible, with magic missile 21:13 oh yeah, forgot crazy mm damage 21:13 :D 21:13 that'll be great for the riders 21:13 ab 21:13 ab 21:14 abcd, even 21:14 -!- Umbire is now known as PhantomLumnia 21:14 -!- PhantomLumnia is now known as PhantomLumina 21:15 there were like three leather jackets on the middle level of the wizard's tower. what's up with that? 21:15 is that normal? 21:16 uhh player monsters can have them 21:16 had been hoping for a leather jacket the whole game, and they finally dropped there 21:16 with a set of shadow dragon scales! 21:17 dammit my dragon's dead and I don't have undead turning :( 21:17 noo 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "wand of undead turning", on T:34201 (4:37:40) 21:19 \o/ 21:19 I will never financially recover from this 21:21 veterinary bills these days 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 stone helm of speed named Gustav: FUCK", on T:34712 (4:42:16) 21:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:34716 (4:43:03) 21:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:34717 (4:43:24) 21:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 stone helm of opposite alignment", on T:34756 (4:45:29) 21:27 if I didn't get that wrest wish I might have just quit 21:27 lol 21:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:34793 (4:48:32) 21:31 AIGH it's fuckcing chaotic hwlem ajsdhkjashdkjasdhkasjdh 21:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an Archon", on T:52652 (13:46:55) 21:32 the heavens will split goddammit all 21:32 Hope it's not hostile 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:11025 (1:28:12) 21:37 huge bummer this game was going nice 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu), 70878 points, T:23269, zombified by a hobbit zombie, while helpless 21:38 aw 21:40 !lastgame ssnufd 21:40 imanity: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/ssnufd/evilhack/dumplog/1698436903.evil.html 21:40 Prayer timeout with no unihorn 21:40 sadge 21:41 horn cures that illness? 21:41 horn cures termill, yeah 21:41 cause i had a horn LOL 21:41 SWEET LORD 21:41 xd 21:41 so does eucalyptus 21:41 and cure sickness 21:41 mannnnnnnnnnnnnn 21:42 rip 21:42 F 21:47 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:47 what did you want the lawful helm for, Loggers? 21:47 I assume grayswandir sac 21:48  that 21:49 so damage output, I guess? 21:50 gauntlets of purity 21:50 neither, I wanted ithilmar for my dragon 21:50 seriously? :D 21:50 damage output will be good with SoA 21:50 yeah it's super good 21:50 Youre not making GoP? 21:50 nah 21:51 well, I can't. but if I could, na 21:51 *nah 21:51 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed ssnufd's ghost, the former Pilferer, on T:12551 (1:44:37) 21:52 -!- mariari has joined #evilhack 21:54 krm26 was a good call to altar farm. Got plenty of items 21:54 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:723 (0:03:42) 21:59 now that I think about it, any kind of rain on astral that involves a large herd of pets would be problematic if I do it all hallucinating 21:59 because you can't displace anything 21:59 you aren't poly'd into a death-resistant form? 22:00 no. polyselfless 22:00 most of the spellcasters on astral are clerical anyway 22:00 just quaff hallu when you run into an archon, titan or the like 22:00 ...did you genocide L 22:01 no genocide 22:01 of course 22:01 but yeah, I could try the situational quaffing thing 22:01 you wacky conduct players 22:01 it is fun to test out ideas 22:01 iirc there's a bunch of covetous L on astral, so save the rain until after dealing with them maybe? 22:02 the welcoming committee could include touch of death, ye 22:02 yes 22:02 what're you doing about rodney, just hallu when he appears? 22:02 welcoming committee xD 22:02 :D they love to see me! 22:03 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 57614 points, T:14512, killed by a mumak 22:03 I've been hallucinating since I got to the top of rodney's tower, except for a few turns to dismount and chuck healing potions at my horse after killing lucifer 22:03 oh huh, how'd you manage that? 22:04 (because you cannot remount while hallucinating) 22:04 manage to hallucinate for a long time, you mean? 22:04 yeah 22:04 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:04 a cursed hallu potion lasts like 1000 turns, or something like that 22:04 and I've got a whole lot more 22:04 ohhhh yeah, I had forgotten that hallu potions last a long time when you drink them 22:05 when they get thrown at you it's only around 30 turns 22:05 heh 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 662 points, T:1535, zombified by a hobbit zombie, while praying 22:06 is there a way to alchemize hallu potions? 22:06 yes. energy or gain level plus booze 22:07 energized booze 22:07 haha 22:07 riding while hallucinating is so fun 22:08 you can't ride permahallu, so it's fun to have a reason to do it 22:08 this way, I mean, with the potions 22:20 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6454 (0:51:58) 22:20 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 419 points, T:1696, killed by a large spider 22:20 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:22 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 arrows on an altar, on T:6711 (0:54:10) 22:38 tinklebear: do you have gauntlets of purity? 22:39 wear them for death resistance 22:50 tinklebear said he doesn't want to use gauntlets of purity because that would be lame 22:51 xd 23:09 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:13023 (2:18:20) 23:19 Loggers_VIII magic lamps wont go out if you go for a swim now 23:19 yeah, I saw. nice! 23:20 i'm thinking about Noisytoots comment in #nethack about genocide and the planes 23:20 I'm developing a list of water-related issues to bombard the devteam with 23:20 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:20 a deluge of bugs 23:20 here's an evil idea, find every genocidable monster in the planes, and if they're genocided replace it with a more difficult monster >:) 23:21 lol terrapin 23:21 if i change geno behavior on the planes, i wont do that until next version. that would be kind of a drastic change to spring on current version 23:21 yeah 23:21 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:23 yani: have druid quest nemesis be balor (guy with evil eye) because I think it would be cool :) 23:25 :P 23:25 Fort ludios portal will always appear, right? 23:25 mostly always 23:25 Not always I feel like, but much less likely that it won't 23:25 Oh 23:25 Isnt in my game 23:25 that sucks 23:26 there can be no vaults/no eligible vaults, yeah 23:26 I got to DL 16 though 23:26 in the vault there was no portal 23:26 then there's a vault above that you missed 23:26 I've been digging everywhere 23:27 dig some more 23:27 dont even get a message 23:27 Hm ok 23:27 What's the cutoff? 23:27 any vault below level 10 23:27 Medusa's lair? 23:27 quest isn't on dlvl 16, is it 23:27 No 23:27 its in the big room 23:27 that's caught me off guard before 23:27 on dl 11 23:28 hmm 23:30 Oh it's in DL 16 23:30 missing vault was on DL 17 23:30 aha 23:32 roughly 95% chance ft ludios will exist each game 23:33 I like ludios I wish it existed 98% of the time :( 23:34 2% is there to satisfy k2's lust for randomness 23:34 xD 23:34 Like the 1/100,000 chane 23:35 * K2 renames nethack to 'box of chocolates' 23:35 never know what you're gonna get 23:36 there should be a branch like ludios (one-level, optional, random location) but for gehennom 23:37 how are the ludios probabilities calculated? 23:37 i've always been curious about that 23:37 any vault between level 10 and medusa has 1/3 chance of having the portal 23:38 and rogue level, big room, quest portal level can't have it 23:40 but how do they get vault probabilities? 23:41 oh I see what you mean 23:43 time to audit the wiki 23:46 terrapin the wiki's 74.9% figure was literally just a guy creating a million dungeons and seeing how many had ludios 23:46 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 23:47 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e52e4d72b7470a86f717a8dd7cd9800568a4f60d 23:47 what a bizarrely round number 23:47 thanks for solving the mystery! 23:48 someone should create a billion to fact check him 23:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed]