00:11 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:11 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 00:17 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:687 (0:02:48) 00:34 @e?tortle 00:34 tortle (:) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: special | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical | Align: 3 | omnivore, swims, amphibious, thick hide, nopoly, infravis 00:34 @e?master mind flayer 00:34 master mind flayer (h) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d10 weapon physical, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 tentacle drain int | Align: -8 | genocidable, omnivore, flies, seeinvis, infravis 00:35 Huh.™ 00:35 I thought an MMF's AC was slightly better for no real reason. 00:35 kinda feels like it would be, huh 00:35 Yeah 00:35 You have all those tentacles to protect you after all 00:36 Tortle shell has a long term edge due to the monster command though 00:36 I should really practice some tortle but I think I have like, all but one game slots across both accounts parked 00:36 in the middle of a Long-Term Endeavor 00:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:14802 (7:17:00) 00:36 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1175 (0:06:09) 00:36 lol 00:37 What are you working on? 00:37 wiki stuff, I'd guess 00:37 ah 00:37 most likely 00:38 and with hackem update, lots to do 00:39 speaking of, umbire, I was wondering; is there any specific way that branch pages are meant to be formatted? with regards to descriptions of levels, maps themselves, etc.. I've looked at multiple pages like the one for goblin town or ice queen, but they're kind of inconsistent 00:40 basically like, what's a page I can copy :P 00:44 Well, uh, I wouldn't know 00:44 but also when I said Long-Term Endeavor I was alluding to my EvilHack games 00:44 Also Goblin Town and Ice Queen are p. different branches as it is so it stands to reason things would be a Little Different 00:45 yeah I realized what you meant a second ago but by then it was too late to say anything 00:45 yeah, fair enough 00:46 this is with regards to vecna's domain page; finally stopped procrastinating on that. I've got all the information I want, just a matter of making it look Okay™ 00:46 I fear I will have to Wing It 00:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15000 (7:27:44) 00:49 I think I'd hew closer to Ice Queen in that case 00:50 yeah, I was leaning in that direction since they're both multi-level 00:50 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril broad pick on an altar, on T:3130 (0:19:44) 00:50 goblin town is too but goblin town is... weird 00:52 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:52 They're all multi-level 00:52 Just that Ice Queen is exactly 3 01:04 The problem's further exacerbated by the fact most branches aren't EvilHack-original so 01:04 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:4752 (0:34:24) 01:05 Speaking of Tal'Gath's level needs to be added too 01:07 What's the shortcut to get to the screen which displays your level, to-hit, etc.? 01:08 I remember terrapin showing it in one of his videos 01:08 Ctrl + X? 01:08 Ty 01:09 YANI: Martial roles should become familiar with their weapons much faster compared to others 01:09 13 hit dice is quite meaty 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 12090 points, T:5825, killed by a rock troll 01:41 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:42 I can't even eat corpses for instrinsics 01:42 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 01:44 Because you're so full up on brains, I take it 01:45 xD 01:45 Yep 01:45 always tho 01:45 It must be the extra 4 attacks mmf get over illithid 01:46 there was a red naga earlier. Couldnt eat his corpse 01:46 now a wraith is in the sokoban 3rd level finish area 01:47 Tinning kits are your friend 01:47 Dont have one 01:47 Maybe one will show up 01:48 But I have too many things to wish for, to spend a wish on it 01:49 Maybe I'll find/ID a ring of hunger 02:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Fem Neu), 47706 points, T:18731, killed while stuck in creature form 02:10 wtf 02:10 I pressed 1 02:10 and it hit something to my left 02:12 wasnt even on the numpad I use to move. On the horizontal number keys 02:13 !lastgame 02:13 PhantomLumina: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/evilhack/dumplog/1698301935.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DragonSidedD/evilhack/dumplog/1698381024.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1698228708.evil.html 02:14 In which you discover the main Achilles' heel of mind flayers 02:14 passives 02:14 Nah I had to throw 1 dagger 02:14 at the jelly in front of me 02:14 but numeric keys function the same as movement 02:14 polyform wasn't the issue 02:14 Numpadded yourself, eh? 02:15 Not quite. Need to find a way to disable that 02:15 I mean that weakness is why vanilla mind flayer pets need acid resistance, among other things 02:15 That wasn't the problem 02:16 Throwing daggers at the jellies was working 02:16 I know, I'm speaking to mind flayers in general 02:16 Maybe in vanilla 02:16 But they dont even disable stoning in vanilla 02:17 Not even just polyforms 02:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:37 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1012 (0:06:14) 02:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 1471 points, T:1327, killed by Gollum, while praying 02:41 Gollum at level 4 is not the play 02:41 Cant hit anything 02:43 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 02:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1504 (0:08:26) 02:54 -!- imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:485 (1:32:18) 03:36 I suddenly have a tame warhorse and I have no idea how that happened... 03:38 ...and got itself killed already 03:41 Magic trap? 03:43 I don't remember a magic trap 03:43 too lazy to check the ttyrecs 03:43 meanwhile, a pyrolisk destroyed my speed boots because I forgot they got unproofed 03:44 No blindfold or towel? 03:51 Oh! While I have you here, trying to decipher this: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/zap.c#L3409 03:51 well yeah, but I didn't realise I needed to put it on 03:52 Unforch >: 03:55 I think that's for removing I (the symbol for unknown) when you zap probing... 04:00 yeah it removes the I and reveals what's really there 04:02 Aye 04:02 Thank ya 04:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:3611 (2:38:57) 04:09 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4113 (1:46:57) 04:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 5870 points, T:5045, zombified by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 04:13 Darn. That was a floating eye, the blue tint was different. Thought it was an energy/shocking sphere. 04:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1086 (0:11:23) 04:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1288 (0:13:08) 04:29 YASI: oil lamps should self-identify once they run out of oil. 04:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) wished for "cursed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:50330 (1 day, 13:31:44) 04:41 Not all that silly, a variant or two has that and/or auto-IDs charges when an item runs out of them. 04:42 mobileuser, wish source? 04:42 wand of wishing 04:43 Castle one, right? 04:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products (candy bar) for the first time, on T:3639 (0:30:35) 04:46 yeah 04:47 Nice 04:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 5053 points, T:3819, killed by a bolt of fire 04:54 Bah. 05:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Ran Cen Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Arahael's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:22887 (5:15:21) 06:38 something killed all the mind flayer larvae in the wizard tower... 06:39 also, I don't remember how to get to the stairs 06:39 must've been some real ligma in the water 06:40 sewer crud among sewer crud 06:40 heh 06:45 can't destroy the iron bars, I'm a bit stumped 06:45 how did I do this last time 06:45 Secret doors? 06:45 I'm unfortunately super useless here 06:45 ah secret door at the bottom 06:47 Knew it had to be that 06:59 Noisytoot I know yu dislike github, but do you have an account there? if so I could give you credit for the submission 06:59 yes, I'm Noisytoot on GitHub as well 07:01 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 07:01 !who 07:01 tinklebear: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 07:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:16 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:56 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:08 K2: You know, you never stated what the plural of a pegasus would be in-game. 08:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:16 I ask because 08:16 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Pegasus_(EvilHack) 08:16 it's real 08:17 and I need some help filling it out 08:22 in what situation would the game need the plural for pegasus? 08:25 Multiple eggs hatching at once 08:27 browsing the source, it doesn't seem to be special cased 08:29 Which is why I was inclined to ask 08:29 The strategy portion of the article is way more important but having to write around plurals when I'm not sure what the game uses was v. slightly awkward 08:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:32 K2 will have to confirm, but it looks like "pegasi", following the same rule as homunculus/homunculi 08:41 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:42 pegasuses 08:42 :P 08:43 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 08:44 mobileuser are you still using the WoO? 08:44 feedback fixes are in 08:44 yeah, I saw the new message! cool! 08:44 \o/ 08:44 really pegasuses? 08:45 hah no 08:45 i think pegasi is correct but i'd get a second opinion 08:45 lol 08:53 Pegasi is the "standard" plural I'm aware of, yeah 09:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:00 Hi Logs 09:00 wazzup 09:00 s/Hi/ab 09:00 heh 09:00 and yz Logs 09:00 I'm sleepy 09:00 o/ 09:01 see what you guys can do for pegasus strategy 09:01 sure 09:01 and once I'm awake and focused I'll trawl logs and contribute what I can from there 09:01 sounds good, sleep well 09:02 o7 09:02 -!- PhantomLumina has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 09:02 yo k2, where can I see what unique monsters spawn with in their inventory? was looking at the map data for vecna and it doesn't say what vecna/kas generate with 09:03 makemon.c 09:03 sometimes uniques get their gear in the map file (.des) they spawn in also 09:04 cool, thanks 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (black dragons), on T:189 (0:01:00) 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:499 (0:02:00) 09:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:10 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:21 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/15f65ce3388a...457a83a1f075 09:21 [EvilHack] k21971 457a83a - Check obj_resists when destroying items via erosion. 09:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) wished for "blessed spellbook of finger of death", on T:52700 (1 day, 16:02:51) 09:22 congrats Noisytoot, you're now an official contributor to evilhack 09:23 woohoo! 09:28 !who 09:28 K2: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] :: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] arnibald [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 09:28 you want to push an update K2? 09:28 i am but you dont have to save or anything 09:28 unless you want the changes to be live in your game 09:40 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:53653 (1 day, 16:27:06) 09:53 woooo 10:01 woo 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1400 (0:09:53) 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1616 (0:12:06) 10:05 oh hey I knew it vecna does get avalanche of ice and snow 10:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53755 (1 day, 16:33:49) 10:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:53757 (1 day, 16:34:10) 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:2520 (0:19:19) 10:12 gogogo 10:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) performed the invocation, on T:53949 (1 day, 16:40:23) 10:21 mobileuser did you use the WoO on rodney? 10:21 heh tame vampire mage through wand of orcus 10:21 no I just zapped rodney with death 10:23 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a dented pot entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:41919 (20:33:59) 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:42053 (20:37:04) 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3095 points, T:7301, killed by a baby owlbear, while fainted from lack of food 10:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) imbued the Idol of Moloch, on T:54048 (1 day, 16:51:18) 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:38114 (5:31:12) 10:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Lucifer, on T:54085 (1 day, 16:57:52) 10:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) entered Purgatory, on T:54189 (1 day, 17:01:09) 10:43 if shadowblade has to check monster MR, so should WoO. #equalityforedgyartifacts 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 782 points, T:2232, killed by a kitten 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:39338 (5:48:46) 10:49 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:40248 (6:02:54) 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1560 points, T:3174, killed by a wand 11:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:43898 (6:21:59) 11:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) entered the Planes, on T:55144 (1 day, 17:31:39) 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:44815 (6:26:13) 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:46835 (21:36:41) 11:26 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:47407 (21:45:41) 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:48234 (6:38:40) 11:38 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:48838 (6:40:37) 11:39 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2301 (0:21:39) 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:2321 (0:23:36) 11:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) put Death down for a little nap, on T:55410 (1 day, 18:01:16) 11:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) destroyed the saddled Pale Horse, on T:55411 (1 day, 18:01:47) 11:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) murdered his faithful giant beetle, on T:55411 (1 day, 18:01:49) 12:00 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 12:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the elven high priestess of Mars, on T:55432 (1 day, 18:06:29) 12:03 too slow! 12:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril oblong amulet on an altar, on T:3574 (0:38:12) 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:95628 (4 days, 19:06:39) 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:95630 (4 days, 19:06:53) 12:07 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:07 @e?locust 12:07 locust (a) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d8 bite physical, 1d4 sting disease | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, oviparous, poisonous, passes-bars 12:07 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 12:08 YANI: the mitre of holiness grants welding resistance when worn 12:08 like inf 12:09 hmm no 12:09 you want an easy non infidel way to wield the WoO 12:10 i see your shenanigans 12:10 caught :c 12:12 :P 12:12 YANI: dipping the mitre of holiness into water turns it into holy water :P 12:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:55494 (1 day, 18:15:32) 12:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the saddled barded White Horse, on T:55495 (1 day, 18:15:46) 12:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Famine, on T:55507 (1 day, 18:16:53) 12:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Black Horse, on T:55509 (1 day, 18:17:06) 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a staff of healing entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:2977 (0:08:17) 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a shark, on T:3255 (0:09:49) 12:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una), 6591149 points, T:55549, ascended (with the Idol) 12:22 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1697698871.evil.html 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 2530 points, T:5905, diseased by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:22 \o/ 12:22 congrats mobileuser 12:22 Infidel 6-streak 12:23 i have failed you 12:23 finally shared number one with VaderFLAG 12:23 infidel 6 streak... obviously the game is not hard enough 12:23 where art thou VaderFLAG 12:23 i will avenge you mobileuser 12:23 lol 12:23 :P 12:23 thanks! 12:23 yeah wtf has vaderflag been 12:24 hasn't been around since june 12:24 mobileuser murdered him so he'd have less competition 12:25 vader is in a shallow grave somewhere in the highlands 12:25 wtf mobileuser :( 12:25 in turn, I have to watch out for krm26 12:25 evil must be easy, given how many people are streaking it 12:25 ikr? 12:25 yeah 12:25 OR 12:25 :D 12:25 those people have become insanely good from all the evilhack games played 12:25 it's the second one 12:26 mobileuser i expect 34 asc during tnnt 12:26 I got a 12-streak but I did it locally so no one knows 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:856 (0:05:30) 12:30 getting good by playing the game? inconceivable! 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:50978 (7:11:13) 12:37 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/457a83a1f075...684b6e709c32 12:37 [EvilHack] k21971 684b6e7 - Include license file during install. 12:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:6309 (1:12:17) 12:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3398 (0:33:53) 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:52122 (7:29:13) 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7712 (1:34:04) 13:02 congrats mobileuser! 13:07 HAX 13:10 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha) became literate by reading The Blacksmith's Cookbook, on T:6140 (0:55:15) 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:6168 (0:55:44) 13:13 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 13:13 thanks terrapin! 13:15 hi morning! 13:15 ab 13:15 congrats mobileuser! 13:15 ab ab. 13:15 Watching dota2 the international :P 13:16 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:8962 (1:52:26) 13:21 thx! 13:22 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 98 points, T:339, burned by molten lava 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 326 points, T:1317, poisoned by a dwarf zombie 13:33 \o/ congrats mobileuser 13:33 \o/ 13:37 grats mobileuser 13:37 thank you! 13:38 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 4914 points, T:3709, quit 13:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1180 (0:07:46) 14:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1632 (0:12:51) 14:09 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 14:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 19653 points, T:12679, killed by an exploding wand 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:6904 (1:53:09) 14:26 -!- Guest199 has joined #evilhack 14:26 -!- Guest199 has quit [Client Quit] 14:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4725 (0:41:37) 14:34 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:48040 (22:21:05) 14:35 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 14:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 4476 points, T:5297, quit 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:48725 (22:23:18) 14:44 you all like training up staffs on wiz now with the archmagi being available? 14:45 there was always magicbane, but SotA is additional incentive, i suppose 14:45 completely forgot it was changed to a staff 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:1804 (0:17:12) 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1060 points, T:1817, killed by a water moccasin 14:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1852 (0:12:22) 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:449 (0:04:21) 14:54 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:59 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:59 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:05 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:12 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 15:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 5724 points, T:4703, quit 15:24 How to play a tortle healer? 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2285 (0:37:32) 15:26 I see that one move sometimes cost 2 turns.. 15:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:57793 (7:58:49) 15:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2206 (0:12:46) 15:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fireproof platinum yendorian express card", on T:2515 (0:14:40) 15:31 xdminsy, get a good melee weapon and you are balling 15:31 super tanky, can heal a bunch at will 15:31 forging a mithril trident or sacrificing for vorpal blade will get you through to the castle usually 15:32 is trident better than saber? 15:32 I see I can later use angelslayer maybe. 15:32 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:32 I'm too nervous about the first several level now :P 15:33 trident is better than saber 15:34 Let me try, I think I'd die soon. 15:36 Okay I entered a armor shop, but seems tortle can wear so little armors :P 15:36 a player monster threw an elven dagger at me, and it showed up in my inventory as 'blessed silver elven dagger'... how do i know it's blessed? 15:37 I don't think it was something i was carrying before 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:59097 (8:07:23) 15:38 it wasn't formally id'd because i just cast identify now and it says it's +0 15:39 No ideas. 15:39 it probably got dropped on an altar or something before 15:39 I have a silver plumed helmet, selling 60 zorkmids. 15:39 check to see if is helm of speed 15:39 *its 15:39 **it's 15:40 Emmm, what if it's opposite alignment. 15:40 then that would suck 15:40 Let me wait a scroll of identify. 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1432 (0:07:29) 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2494 (0:14:56) 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 1649 points, T:1448, killed by a piranha 15:41 ... 15:41 You act so quickly. 15:41 Lol. 15:43 I got a +4 bone skull cap, a cursed magic whistle and a cursed bag of holding in goblin town :P 15:43 I only know how to act quickly 15:43 wow nice 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) used a forge to create Shadowblade, on T:59442 (8:16:25) 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:13853 (2:20:04) 15:46 I forget that I have no sickness resistance. 15:47 Eat every corpse, fortunately I have potion of extra healing.. 15:47 yes, it's annoying to go to roles other than convict 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:59560 (8:17:34) 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 8073 points, T:5681, quit 15:48 I really love convict early sickness resistance. maybe stockholm syndrome 15:48 illithid convict doesn't have to worry about zombies at all! 15:48 (except physical damage) 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:208 (0:00:46) 15:51 heehee 46 seconds 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2677 (1:03:21) 15:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a perforated amulet on an altar, on T:5458 (0:40:33) 15:58 Can I just kill goblin king with the scalpel? 15:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Trapped door", on T:5682 (0:43:16) 16:00 yes 16:00 well, I can. so by extension you should be more than capable 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:60261 (8:36:49) 16:07 yay +2 stone orcish helm 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:51867 (23:14:19) 16:12 What about my blessed +1 silver helm of speed. 16:12 Heh. 16:12 :P 16:16 -!- imanity has joined #evilhack 16:17 Chameleon turns into yellow dragon, then remains in master lich form for way too many turns :D 16:17 I love RNG 16:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 9447 points, T:7082, killed by a chameleon imitating a master lich 16:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 520 points, T:932, killed by the Goblin King 16:22 Gnome king 100-0-d me with 35 hp. Lovely 16:22 Not even burdened 16:25 skill issue I guess 16:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1591 (0:07:54) 16:31 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 16:32 ssnufd my only evil ascension so far, I used the staff of archmagi as my primary weapon and trained staff. so yes that's a viable strat. 16:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 1582 points, T:2529, quit 16:36 oh nice! i gave up on that wiz had lots of bad luck hah. back to rogue 16:39 I hate zombies. 16:39 My large cat fight them again. 16:40 Pets seem to have a death wish 16:43 What determines when the line about goblin town being nearby appears? 16:44 I just got it twice, then the game said it was "far away" when I was in the same room as the portal 16:44 the portal was on the opposite side of the room, compared to when I got the nearby messages 16:44 *opposite side of the map 16:46 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:46 the messages you get have no relation to actual level geometry 16:46 it is a little confusing 16:46 I think it'd be a good idea to have it being far away when not in the rom 16:46 *room 16:46 and nearby when in the portal room 16:46 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Hea Trt Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:6014 (1:22:21) 16:47 I don't know, I think it kind of makes sense. since goblin town is far off in the mountains, and you're only hearing faint noises thru the portal 16:47 If you can hear noises through the portal 16:48 doesnt it make sense to hear them louder when youre closer? 16:48 yes, but then wouldn't that have to be implemented for every portal 16:48 I don't know where to get AC. 16:48 or being near a vault 16:48 i don't know if you should get hot/cold-esque messages since no other portals do, but i think maybe the messages should be changed to not *sound* like they do 16:48 or hearing cursing shoplifters 16:48 Depends on the portal 16:48 If you want and in game explanation 16:48 My large cat dies, I was planing to control my level below 7. 16:48 goblin king portal is just louder 16:48 than the rest 16:48 I mean, it doesn't, really. no matter what the sound is, you'll still hear it louder when you're closer 16:49 goblin king is simply loud 16:49 there you go :) 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Hea Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6154 (1:24:49) 16:49 how loud it is doesn't matter though, since you're using the relative sound to suss out where portal is 16:49 If I swim, will my potions get dilutied? 16:49 You said yourself that youre hearing noises coming from the portal 16:49 yes xdminsy 16:49 yes xdminsy 16:49 imanity I don't think you understand me 16:50 Okay. 16:50 Think of it like someone is calling you from the other side of your house 16:50 you cant hear them very well 16:50 but as you move closer 16:50 you can hear them better 16:50 that is irrelevant to my point 16:50 lemme try to say it in a better way lol 16:51 that's literally a perfect analogy 16:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1469 (0:14:38) 16:51 imanity: SMOP 16:51 I never said, it wasn't a serviceable analogy. when did I say that there is not sound coming from the portal? 16:51 That there was not sound? 16:52 That's the assumption I'm going on too 16:52 if you would read the messages I wrote, the point is that by making goblin town portal heard differently from nearby, you open a can of worms because then every audio-based message would need the same treatment 16:52 Far from it 16:52 it actually wouldn't be a SMOP 16:52 I already solved the solution 16:52 Goblin king=loud 16:52 *provided the solution 16:52 it would be pretty easy to make the messages to say "near by" vs "far away" depending on distance to the portal I think 16:52 I already responded to that imanity 16:52 or I mean it would literally be a SMOP 16:52 It would be super useful too qt 16:53 "how loud it is doesn't matter though, since you're using the relative sound to suss out where portal is" 16:53 It absolutely matters 16:53 how 16:53 If you remember my house analogy 16:54 If the person raises their volume 16:54 imanity, you are using the *relative sound* to suss out where the portal is 16:54 My screen flash when I swim.. 16:54 So if that relative sound is louder because youre closer 16:54 A bit scary. 16:54 that makes perfect sense 16:54 by getting closer to the portal, the noise would increase, no? this would be true for every single source of an audial message in the game because that's how hearing worsks 16:54 *works 16:54 xdminsy Leviathan is coming to get you 16:54 it would make no sense to have it just for goblin king 16:55 what is making the noise from the portal? 16:55 Loggers_VIII: a ton of audio messages are already like that 16:55 your analogy is perfect, but I think it's more perfect than you want :P 16:55 goblin king activity 16:55 well, I don't know what the coverage is like in EvilHack but in 3.7 at least many are like that, they use "nearby" if you're within a certain distance, and "in the distance" if you're not nearby 16:55 "you hear the sound of a bustling town nearby" 16:55 imanity, let's agree on something. no matter what a noise is, the closer you get, the louder the noise gets right? 16:55 Exactly 16:55 Lol, I got the ornate key. 16:55 I don't know what you're arguing about lol it seems like you both are saying the same thing 16:55 Sounds like that to me too qt 16:56 but loggers isnt agreeing with the logical conclusion 16:56 hwhat are you talkin about 16:56 no matter what a noise is, the closer you get, the louder the noise gets right? 16:56 idk what the logical conclusion is I'm lost :( 16:56 Loggers_VIII: aren't you saying "the sound should be louder when you're closer and softer when you're further away" and isn't imanity saying that too? 16:56 I don't get what the argument is over 16:57 imanity said that you could have only goblin town portal do that, I said that is silly 16:57 I think 16:57 and goblin king portal is just louder than others 16:57 goblin king isnt messing around. He has a whole map to run 16:57 But vecna's portal 16:57 has 3 layers 16:57 but no matter how loud a sound is, the closer you get, it gets louder 16:57 of undead who dont even move until you start 16:57 ice queen portal 16:57 has 3 layers too 16:57 frozen wasteland 16:57 well ok I guess I get what imanity means, that other portals are soft enough even when nearby that they sound far off 16:58 they go from "very far off" to "far off" 16:58 yes 16:58 vs "far off" to "nearby" 16:58 and that sound isnt distinguishable to you 16:58 but the goblin king sound is so loud 16:58 I mean really it would make more sense to just change them all if they mention distance in some way 16:58 you can distinguish the difference 16:58 qt yeah 16:58 that would be useful qt 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha), 28992 points, T:11147, killed by a death ray 16:59 !lastgame Yeshua 16:59 imanity: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/Y/Yeshua/evilhack/dumplog/1698420036.evil.html 16:59 I think how far off the sound is doesn't matter. if you get closer, it gets louder, and by the same logic you can realize you're more close to the portal 16:59 oh ouch 16:59 The ogre queen zaps a jeweled wand! :( 16:59 :( 16:59 Not if where the sound is coming from, is hidden by 2 maps 16:59 you get ported right into the goblin king's map 16:59 not the same for vecna 16:59 or ice queen 17:00 imanity, kathryn and vecna are not making the noises 17:00 Loggers_VIII: you're right but how much louder perceptually it gets will depend on distance I think 17:00 like someone shouting across the room vs a siren across town, as you walk across the room both will get louder but only one appreciably 17:00 what are the noises for them? 17:00 the goblin king isn't the one making all the noise either 17:00 it's not like this really matters though 17:00 His map is 17:00 and the ice queen's map is too 17:00 but that's 2 filler stages away 17:00 same with vecna 17:01 I think the solution would be to either remove the "far away" and "nearby" mentions in the messages, or else make them dependent on distance to the portal, for all maps 17:01 yeah but vecna/kathryn/goblin king aren't solely responsible for the noise- you can just look at the messages 17:01 there shouldn't be a need to give an in-game explanation of only one portal sound allowing you to triangulate :) 17:01 except for the song one in ice queen I think 17:01 That's the one I'm thinking of 17:01 What are the other messages? 17:01 you hear a howling wind, I think 17:01 Some icy howl. That could be relating to the ice queen's anguish 17:02 ...or it could just be a winter wolf 17:02 thats one angery boy 17:02 if all winter wolves howled like that 17:02 we'd hear it 17:03 Is it a chorus of winter wolves howling in unison? 17:03 I wouldn't, I have OPTIONS=!acoustics set 17:03 we are reaching a level of pedantry that has lost all meaning 17:03 we might as well start debating about whether the adventurer wears pants 17:03 You will never hear their beautiful symphony qt :( 17:03 I really don't understand why acoustics is an option 17:03 That has no relation to an in-game function 17:04 Loggers_VIII: I think whether the hero wears pants is actually more grounded because you're debating about an explanation that would justify a change that isn't even in the game, nor likely to be added 17:04 I'm only justifying this with an in-universe explanation 17:04 i.e. making only the goblin king portal messages dependent on distance -- there's no reason that should happen 17:04 LOUD NOISES 17:04 xD 17:04 fwiw, the messages are "you hear a howling wind" and "you hear an eerie, ominous wail" 17:04 k2 what is the eerie ominous wail we need to know 17:05 K2 why do you think acoustics is an option? 17:05 it just turns off all the You_hear messages 17:05 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amrTOsYa4sA 17:05 I guess it's intended to be like verbose, where it removes "unneeded flavor messages" 17:05 but there are many actually relevant messages involving hearing something and it turns those off too 17:05 so, well, I guess it is sort of like verbose in that way too :P 17:06 is !acoustics the same as playing deaf? 17:06 I think it still allows you to talk and use stethoscope 17:06 Loggers_VIII - ice queen portal on that level 17:06 yeah I think imanity is right, all the actual in-game effects are like you can hear it just silences all the messages about hearing things 17:06 hearing sounds 17:07 yeah but what's making the wail? hurry, the world is at stake 17:07 weird 17:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:62809 (9:21:49) 17:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:62810 (9:21:54) 17:07 stethoscope doesn't check whether or not you have ears right? 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 31034 points, T:18134, killed by a leocrotta 17:08 um 17:08 i dunno 17:08 something 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:63013 (9:23:03) 17:08 I think you'd be perma deaf without ears 17:09 Even if it doesnt appear in status bar 17:09 put a shrieker on one of the ice queen levels :P 17:09 xD 17:09 Invisible shrieker 17:09 imanity I just checked, wiki says stethoscope doesn't check for ears 17:09 Wtf. That's crazy 17:09 how are you meant to use a stethoscope with no ears 17:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:10 huh wow 17:10 i thought the devteam thought of everything :P 17:10 ikr 17:11 there just isn't any field to track whether a monster has ears 17:12 and probably nobody particularly wants to go through each monster and try to figure out whether it has ears 17:12 but that would probably be a nice touch to make you deaf in certain forms, so it would probably be worth doing at some point. just will be a lot of work if you want to do more than guess quickly for each one 17:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 1481 points, T:2455, quit 17:13 report it as a bug to devteam 17:13 Pat wont be able to resist fixing it 17:14 idk, I think he will be able to resist 17:14 they probably have had that one on the internal bug tracker since 2002 or something 17:16 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:16 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 17:17 gpg has stopped working for me suddenly 17:17 when I try to sign something or even just run gpg --card-status it just hangs indefinitely 17:17 what the heck is going on here?! 17:17 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:21 oof 17:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1319 (0:07:49) 17:21 it's the pinentry program from GPGtools that isn't working 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:11669 (3:06:25) 17:24 I just reinstalled it and now it works again 17:24 odd 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4086 (1:24:47) 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:4101 (1:25:51) 17:31 huh 17:32 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4514 (1:30:29) 17:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "E", on T:4000 (0:19:41) 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4919 (1:36:21) 17:39 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:41 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 17:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 5591 points, T:5051, quit 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1693 (0:15:41) 17:47 If I wanted to reassign some skill slots. Do I need to toss stormbringer up in the air a bunch of times to de-level, then dring a blessed restore ability? I there anymore elegant way to do that (I have scroll of amnesia as well, but I think I am immune in my current form as an illithid) 17:47 Unless you know drain life, that's the best way 17:48 you could also curse stormbringer and hit a high hp monster with it 17:48 until it turns on you enough times 17:49 if your intelligence is 13 or higher, read a blessed scroll of amnesia 17:49 you can reassign skill points 17:59 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5803 (1:57:47) 18:03 K2 oh, interesting 18:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6743 (1:10:25) 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:92957 (1 day, 5:20:58) 18:11 blessed scroll of amnesia is awesome! getting those flail and pickaxe skills back for broadsword and two-weapon is very very helpful as a convict 18:13 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a javelin entrusted to her by Mog, on T:6382 (2:11:33) 18:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7162 (1:17:06) 18:17 K2 is that akways int, or does the stat change to wisdom depending on the class? 18:17 *always 18:18 always int 18:18 ok 18:23 Well I want to collect maybe 3 pets then polymorph them. 18:23 Then no pets can live long :P 18:23 Maybe I could stash them in minetown room. 18:24 pet black dragon. best idea or worst idea? 18:24 I think it may disintegrate you. 18:25 if a breath bounces 18:25 And I don't know if it will destroy items. 18:25 ya. that would be the problem. 18:28 Okay I think I have to polymorph my only pet and some candles. 18:29 why candles 18:29 I think they can be polymorphed into tooled horn or something. 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Mog, on T:6741 (2:28:26) 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Hea Trt Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:12418 (3:06:19) 18:32 you could also curse stormbringer and hit a high hp monster with it 18:32 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:32 I'm not sure why you'd do that when you can throw it up 18:32 im not saying it's the best solution 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Ith Fem Cha) averted death (suffocated by a water elemental), on T:42319 (19:53:24) 18:33 sigh. forgot I had unwielded stormy, while a water elemental had me 18:34 amulet of life saving are good 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Hea Trt Fem Neu) murdered her faithful warg, on T:13015 (3:13:46) 18:38 not the warg :( 18:39 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Mog, on T:8575 (2:37:55) 18:42 Sadly no useful pets. 18:42 I'm not sure if the ancient pseudodragon is good. 18:42 But it's only level 6 and seems cannot engulf monsters. 18:45 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:49 -!- Umbire is now known as PhantomLumina 18:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:64290 (10:19:56) 18:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1477 (0:12:44) 18:51 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:64356 (10:21:43) 18:58 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Hea Trt Fem Neu) had a spellbook of cure sickness given to her by Hermes, on T:14035 (3:34:20) 18:59 @e?ancient pseudodragon 18:59 ancient pseudodragon (D) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 20 | Res: sleep poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: special | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d10 bite sleep, 1d4 sting drain str | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, infravis 18:59 better than a dog/cat of the same level 18:59 And it dies from sickness. 18:59 Then I was gifted spellbook of cure sickness :( 18:59 Is this guranteed first gift of healer? 19:00 no 19:01 But I think I don't that high luck, I may probably only have at most 5 luck. 19:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3167 (0:26:00) 19:03 DL 4. 20 zombies spawn 19:04 Fun times 19:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 4005 points, T:3175, quit 19:04 Spellcasters get books the way most roles get weapons and the like. 19:04 From sacrifice, I should specify. 19:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 447 points, T:872, killed by a bolt of cold 19:10 Okay I see. 19:14 -!- imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:14 -!- imanity has joined #evilhack 19:16 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 19:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1674 points, T:1204, killed by a black unicorn 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) stole 1635 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Izchak's lighting store, on T:65418 (10:45:17) 19:25 I'm still -11 AC, no reflection no mr no free acion :( 19:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2698 (0:17:37) 19:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 throwing stars on an altar, on T:3536 (0:21:04) 19:30 -!- imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:30 -!- imanity has joined #evilhack 19:31 Why is my +1 platinum dwarvish roundshield only giving 2 AC? 19:34 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:35 Dont know, maybe platinum is bad. 19:35 platinum gives one less AC than iron/steel 19:35 That sucks 19:36 ugh the stairs down on the first level of the mines are past a tight squeeze that I can't make cuz tortle :( 19:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4021 (0:28:00) 19:36 Platinum isn't exactly the most sturdy material 19:37 ab Loggers_VIII 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 2148 points, T:1800, killed by Mr. Lugnaquillia; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 19:37 ab 19:38 ab 19:39 we're really keeping this running 19:39 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 42882 points, T:13019, killed by a yeti, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:39 I'll probably give it up in a few days but it was funnier than I thought it'd be so 19:39 heh 19:39 !where imanity 19:39 never say yz 19:39 !whereis imanity 19:39 terrapin: [hdf-eu] Imanity [evil]: (Hea Trt Mal Neu) T:3850 The Dungeons of Doom level: 3 19:39 Okay :P 19:40 heh, i guess in that case you do have to say is 19:40 I want purity this game. 19:41 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:42 purity's ok 19:42 I like hand of vecna/dragonbane more as tortle I think 19:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 3431 points, T:4035, killed by a rothe 19:43 If no dragonbane, how to obtain reflection as a tortle? 19:43 shield of reflection 19:43 amulet of reflection 19:43 I dislike tortle, I can only wear so little armors :( 19:43 don't tell anyone but I just don't use reflection 19:44 Angels love him xD 19:44 Okay somewhat brave. 19:44 reflection doesn't protect against the melee magic missile attack anyway I don't think 19:44 I need to finish sokoban then farm. 19:44 I think it reduces dmg 19:46 the melee attack ignores both reflection and half spell damage 19:46 (reflection still protects against the ray, of course) 19:46 Ye, that's what I was thinking about 19:46 Cure sickness is very useful to cure pets.. 19:46 I now have only a hell hound :( 19:46 I wanna a dragon. 19:46 How did you get MR? 19:47 I have no mr, I hope sokoban give me that. 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:2921 (0:06:46) 19:50 What lucky, I step in a polymorph trap, feels like a new tortle :) 19:50 From level 10 to level 8. 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:16254 (4:27:04) 19:53 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Hea Trt Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an acid blob, on T:16468 (4:29:02) 19:54 Why I became male again. 19:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 5047 points, T:6264, quit 19:55 I wanted to do sokoban first so I descend quickly early. 19:56 Then there's so many nymphs in the level below oracle. 19:56 Becoming a new doesn't always flip your gender 19:57 Unlucky :( 19:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 2881 points, T:8710, escaped 19:59 ascended. 20:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) stole 37380 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Manlobbi's general store, on T:1270 (0:14:42) 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 920 points, T:1301, killed by a Kop Lieutenant 20:01 Well I identified polymorph control and free action. 20:01 If I try to polymorph myself into new human. 20:01 Can I become female again? 20:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1249 (0:06:00) 20:01 Wanna lay some dragon eggs. 20:02 heh 20:02 bok bok! 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1019 (0:02:59) 20:04 xdminsy you can't specify gender with polycontrol 20:04 I'm not sure if you still get the random chance? 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:66925 (11:29:48) 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a saber entrusted to her by Mog, on T:8990 (3:11:29) 20:06 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:08 I see only 1/10 chance to change gender. 20:08 you do get the random chance and you can't specify it 20:08 amulet of change is the only reliable way 20:09 the melee attack ignores both reflection and half spell damage 20:09 it ignores reflection but I don't think it ignores half spell damage 20:10 I hate that polytrap that changed my gender. 20:10 Otherwise I can now have a dozen of dragons. 20:12 My network is very laggy now, ping 250ms and a lot packet loss :( 20:15 I just got a baby blue dragon xdminsy 20:15 Gonna be a wild ride 20:17 You so lucky. 20:17 It was the last charge It hink 20:17 *I think 20:17 lucky the pet didnt shudder 20:18 I polymorphed pets maybe at least 10 times :( 20:18 Well, horse can grow up into lesser nightmare? 20:18 no 20:18 pony horse warhorse 20:18 Lesser nightmares can grow up to cachmeres I think 20:19 Or maybe lesser nightmares can be tamed with vegan? 20:20 But I remember i farlooked I did tamed a horse :( 20:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:67560 (11:45:54) 20:23 You cant tame nghtmares with food 20:24 Mabye it's polymorphed, from a u into another u :( 20:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fireproof platinum yendorian express card", on T:4940 (0:30:37) 20:28 I hate catching unicorns 20:29 Teleport on a 5 turn cd 20:29 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/684b6e709c32...fb408017ac4b 20:29 [EvilHack] k21971 fb40801 - Fix: player could drop a cursed loadstone by wielding it. 20:31 ah crap 20:31 terrapin, do you still have that snippet of code regarding zombie corpses? 20:31 weird behavior, corpse changing from 'gnome corpse' to 'gnome zombie corpse' 20:32 i completely forgot about that 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10655 (3:42:29) 20:37 -!- PhantomLumina has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:40 terrapin found it 20:40 yay for irc logs 20:41 your fruit / "slime mold" will tame a horse / nightmare, xdminsy. Because it is a fruit. Fruits and vegetables (garlic, wolfsbane, carrots, and anything from a tree) will work. 20:42 Was gonna say, you could easily reprod it K2 20:43 Okay I see, I thought that nightmare is like rabid dog that cannot be tamed by throwing food. 20:44 Oh nah, they're just horses. 20:44 no. it's just a horse that can eat poisonous vegetable corpses 20:44 But Ebil™ 20:44 so, like fresh yellow molds 20:44 -!- Umbire is now known as PhantomLumina 20:45 you can *pacify* horses with stuff like rations, pancakes, fortune cookies. 20:45 but it needs to be something they would actually eat if they were starving. tins won't work, and neither will tripe of course 20:46 Lol okay. 20:46 Big room isnt fun when underleveled :/ 20:46 Level 7 20:47 yay logs 20:50 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51 is it dnethack that has the big room with weird hedge mazes made out of fog or whatever? 20:51 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/fb408017ac4b...abc3bd8f33d4 20:51 [EvilHack] k21971 abc3bd8 - Fix: zombie corpses changing when failing to revive. 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:68540 (12:18:46) 20:55 K2 Should unicorns killed by engulfing attacks drop a horn? 20:55 If not, surely they must give poison resistance to the monster engulfing them 20:56 Monsters can gain intrinsics from digesting them yes 20:56 Is it 100% chance? 20:56 And no, unicorns that get eaten don't leave horns 20:56 Like when a pet eats their corpse 20:56 They have to leave a corpse for a horn to drop 20:56 @e?gray unicorn 20:56 gray unicorn (u) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 24 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 70 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 1d12 butt physical, 1d6 kick physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, herbivore, infravis 20:56 P. sure it isn't 20:56 @e?red mold 20:56 red mold (F) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 0 | Res: fire poison | Confer: fire poison | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Atk: 0d4 passive fire | Align: 0 | genocidable, breathless, mindless, infravis, vegan 20:56 Pino doesn't communicate the odds of a given intrinsic 20:57 :C 20:57 Feels like it should be 20:57 Just that it can be given 20:57 Far as the vanilla implementation of that I'm p. sure it's a lower chance compared to eating the corpse normally 20:57 So I feel like it's a lower chance for digesting monsters 20:57 I will have to tell my dragon to chew his food then :( 21:00 src/eat.c: else if (mnum == PM_FLOATING_EYE && u.umonnum == PM_RAVEN) { You("peck the eyeball with delight."); 21:00 IT IS WITH EXTREME SADNESS I HAVE TO INFORM YOU THAT YOUR EYEBALLS HAVE BEEN TAKEN XD 21:03 pets always get one of the intrinsics available when eating a corpse, either normally or via digestion 21:04 i needed those eyeballs 21:04 My dragon just ate a unicorn, who only gives poi res 21:04 didnt leave a msg. I assume he ate something in the big room 21:04 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:7900 (1:09:17) 21:05 @e?gnomish wizard 21:05 gnomish wizard (G) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 10 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Atk: 0d0 cast spell | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, infravis 21:05 today a dragon pet of mine ate like 5 or 6 lava gremlins before the resistance-acquisition message came through 21:05 so THAT's why gnomish wizards are so crap at granting telepathy 21:06 Are you sure it's activated terrapin? 21:06 given tinklebear's msg 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 474 points, T:963, killed by Gollum 21:07 hmmm 21:07 -!- PhantomLumina has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:09 It *seems* like until they get a resistance potentially provided a corpse, they will "catch" a res-granting corpse if you throw it. 21:10 but I might be over-interpreting/imagining things that aren't really happening 21:10 Because those are considered treats 21:10 lava gremlins grant both fire and poison resistance, so it could be that your dragon kept getting poison resistance for the first several corpses? 21:10 it had poison res naturally 21:10 was a shadow dragon 21:10 An intrinsic granting corpse is a treat for a monster that can eat it, until such time as it actually gets that intrinsic 21:11 If such a corpse isn't being caught, it already has the intrinsic 21:11 yes, so the corpses would keep "trying" to give poison resistance, without any effect 21:11 yes. but a starving horse will "catch" a food ration, too. so it is not unambiguous signal. 21:12 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest6026 21:12 -!- Guest6026 has quit [Killed (zinc.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 21:12 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:13 but yeah, it seems like a test for poison res would be to throw an edible poison-res granting corpse at the pet, and check whether it "catches" it. 21:15 if it doesn't catch it, that would probably be confirmation that it has the resistance already 21:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:8084 (1:20:31) 21:17 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a dingo, on T:11075 (1:54:19) 21:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1496 points, T:1847, zombified by a diseased hobbit corpse 21:17 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1932 (0:43:09) 21:18 @e?flesh golem 21:18 flesh golem (') | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 8 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison | Confer: fire cold sleep shock poison | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Atk: 2d8 claw physical, 2d8 claw physical | Align: 0 | breathless, mindless 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (antimatter vortices), on T:2019 (0:44:24) 21:19 ^can exercise your strength while you improve your pet at the same time 21:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) genocided green slimes, on T:69452 (12:34:55) 21:22 novel use for potion of hallucination: leash your pet so it stays adjacent, and then quaff hallu before eating a dragon corpse. 21:22 you will get continually interrupted, so that you can gnaw the corpse down to a throwable size, and then throw the remainder at your pet. 21:25 🤔 21:25 Could be something 21:25 (novel to me, anyway) 21:25 -!- Umbire is now known as PhantomLumina 21:25 clever! 21:26 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/potion.c#L738 21:27 Potion has no effect if you're already invisible (tracks), blind (unsure on that) or... invisible but from a worn item? 21:27 it still has the effect 21:28 you just get a "peculiar feeling" message or whatever 21:28 Noted 21:33 I don't think engulfing grants intrinsics in evilhack 21:34 there are some special effects like gain level from wraiths, polymorph from a shape-shifter, 21:35 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 21:35 but I think engulfing granting intrinsics (for either the monster or the player) was a PR I did for 3.7 and afaik K2 hasn't adopted it in EvilHack 21:35 unless it happened recently 21:35 maybe I'm misremembering though 21:36 that's very possible actually because I can't even remember where that effect went, so idk if it's in Evil or not 21:36 obviously I don't remember it very clearly 21:36 it was implemented maybe a year ago in evil, but i don't think it works for players engulfing stuff 21:36 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c3774636460e2b58ef21d1ea6a9d199718af69a9 21:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +3 dragonhide cloak of displacement", on T:70063 (12:50:19) 21:37 lil over a year ago 21:37 splunge always makes the most interesting wishes 21:37 qt dont feel bad i forget all sorts of stuff. so many commits over the years 21:38 oh yeah I think vanilla does it a different way now and that's why I was missing it 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide jumping boots", on T:70069 (12:51:28) 21:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:70077 (12:52:10) 21:40 there were followups in vanilla: b25961f, cee6c9a, c78e7af 21:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:70167 (12:54:10) 21:42 nice 21:42 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 21:43 Noisytoot, wiki says half spell damage is ignored re: angel melee attack 21:43 might be wrong? idk 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a raven corpse on an altar of Mars, on T:3564 (1:05:59) 21:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 mithril large splint mail of decay", on T:13371 (2:26:12) 21:49 4 strength from one giant corpse :) 21:49 anselmus got himself cooked at the Castle once by that melee missile while luring stuff to the trapdoor 21:49 sussed it out from there I believe 21:50 yeah half spell damage doesn't do anything for melee MM attacks 21:51 it probably should? but nethack does have that whole "melee-range magic attacks are more dangerous" thing going on 21:51 like zapping yourself with fod 21:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:3283 (0:12:54) 21:52 yeah, it's a bit of an outlier 21:52 it's in the same category as demons' hellfire attacks and asmodeus's cold attack, and i think it would be a bit odd if those were affected by half spell damage 21:53 but MM literally has magic in the name so 21:55 yeah. I think you could make an argument for it also affecting sheer cold/hellfire since they're technically spells, but it feels weird for magic missile at least to not be affected by it 22:01 I think that would trivialise astral plane 22:01 Maybe rename the spell 22:01 rather than nerfing it 22:02 not making any changes 22:02 I think it's fine 22:02 Same 22:05 -!- ssnufd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:05 still can't get into gollum... might as well head on down to mine's end 22:06 Why not? 22:06 Oh iron bars? 22:07 yea 22:07 oh, actually I have an acid potion 22:07 whatever, I'm already at mines end 22:08 lmao 22:08 got the key \o/ 22:08 Striking also works 22:08 one-eyed sam was here 22:08 Just gotta angle it sometimes 22:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4821 (0:30:11) 22:09 Do you have MR? 22:09 no 22:09 What are you doing about polytraps? 22:10 nothing 22:10 Oh 22:10 just gonna hope I don't step on one 22:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:16410 (2:48:03) 22:10 wouldn't be the end of the world anyway, not like I have any destructible armor 22:11 Yeah, with tortle not being able to use anything on chest 22:11 ig only gloves might go 22:12 nah gloves don't get destroyed 22:12 Not even if you transform into a larger creature? 22:12 no, they get pushed off your body and land on the ground like a hat 22:12 Oh 22:13 nice 22:13 Maybe I'll descend earlier 22:13 the nice thing about tortle healers is that they're tanky enough to face higher level monsters earlier than other combos, so the increased monster difficulty from going down there doesn't matter too much 22:14 "ZOT" goes the melee not-a-spell pseudomagic missile 22:14 I guess 22:16 lol tinklebear 22:16 Unchanging and poly control are also more than acceptable substitutes if you still (reasonably) fear AC loss from polymorphing 22:17 No chance I could get those 2 early on 22:17 Or even one of them 22:18 Poly control shares price ID slots with many other rings which don't auto-identify upon wearing 22:18 idk, you could get lucky in a jeweler's 22:18 But you wont know what those are 22:18 Unless you get another lucky blessed ID proc 22:18 I just read ID scrolls 22:18 and ID the rings with the most attractive prices 22:18 I have found 0 this game :) 22:18 !whereis imanity 22:18 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] Imanity [evil]: (Hea Trt Mal Neu) T:10698 The Gnomish Mines level: 7 22:19 unfortunate 22:19 yep 22:19 Maybe as I descend 22:19 Hoping for catacombs 22:19 Need some spellbooks 22:19 and scrolls 22:21 oh cool, a scroll of identify :P 22:21 gimme xd 22:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:23 I wish evilhack had the swap chest 22:24 Does the item stay named by the person in your inventory? 22:24 Like "kindly donated by foo" 22:25 no 22:25 Sadge 22:25 Would've created a cringe name like "your daddy" 22:25 So every time they open their inv 22:25 I still name them after whoever donated them, but they don't do it by default 22:25 -!- PhantomLumina has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:25 they are reminded of me 22:26 I knew a guy whose username was malestripper 22:26 xD 22:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:26 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:26 grotto town and orctown should be the only minetown options I love them both 22:26 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 22:27 is stormbringer thirsty when it is wielded in alternate hand? 22:27 yes 22:27 can I safely displace monsters with it wielded alternate? 22:27 yep 22:27 as long as it's not physically in one of your hands it's harmless 22:28 sorry, i mean if I am two weaponing, but storm is the secondary. Can I displace monsters? 22:29 I just had a bad run in with a nasties-spamming titan. And I had to read confused taming as a rescue option. now I'm surrounded by a mob of tame monsters. And wondering if I have to keep turning off two weapon to move through them. 22:29 yes, stormbringer is thirsty when wielded in your alternate hand 22:30 darn 22:30 imanity: in vanilla it doesn't do any damage with MR, is vanilla astral trivial? 22:30 Absolutely 22:31 2 of the riders can be FoD-d for instance 22:31 I think you can identify riders with telepathy 22:31 you can do that in evilhack too 22:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:31 Dont they resist it? 22:31 Being undead 22:31 no? 22:31 they're not undead 22:31 or demonic 22:31 Hm 22:31 !whereis dingotron 22:31 xdminsy: [hdf-us] dingotron [evil]: (Con Hob Fem Cha) T:33279 The Dungeons of Doom level: 29 22:31 they just share a glyph with major demons, so it's a little confusing 22:31 Thought they were demonic for some reason 22:32 yeah that was it 22:32 damn titan on medusa's level summoned 2 dragons, a master mindflayer, disenchanter, green slime (slimed me 3 times), 2 purple worms and bunch of giants. All just in the starting room. 22:32 but their monster lookup seems clear for death resist 22:32 djinn, riders, mail daemons and sandestins are all & but aren't actually major demons, strangely 22:32 dnethack riders all resist death rays 22:32 pestilence and famine do not resist death, there's no death resistance in their stat blocks as far as I can see 22:32 I think they should resist death rays 22:33 even the wizard has a chance to 22:33 they're nonliving in dnethack, living in vanilla and evilhack 22:33 now they are all pets tho. so there is that. just wish the damn game had spawned just one damn magic whistle. 22:33 (which is why livelogs say "destroyed" instead of "killed" for rider kills in dnethack) 22:33 see, this is why we need swap chest. I could toss dingotron my magic whistle I'm not gonna use 22:34 Makes more sense for them to be unliving tbh 22:34 and me some scrolls of identify Loggers_VIII xd 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a silver stiletto entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:5719 (0:49:29) 22:35 I think that nethack kind of takes over the discworld interpretation of the horsemen, so I think that's why they're living 22:35 ah 22:35 I suppose war is living 22:35 the player being war is so badass 22:35 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:35 love that 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:7059 (0:57:26) 22:36 Ikr 22:36 I like how k2 hypes it up too. The message for getting your steed on astral 22:37 yeah 22:37 I don't think I've ever read that message, or utilized the horse, but it is cool 22:38 It's something like "worthy vassal know your true identity" 22:38 by the time I get to astral I'm high as a kite on adrenaline and can't be bothered to read messages :P 22:38 xD 22:38 which, let it be known, has gotten me killed many times 22:39 lol. oh I have a 5 tame electric eels. the range of those confused tame scrolls is long! 22:39 What do you die to? 22:40 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5862 (0:55:10) 22:40 uh, famine, beheading, getting my ass beat 22:40 ah 22:40 famine can be a bitch 22:40 famine is horrible for tortles 22:40 cause his horse slows you 22:41 At least you only need to deal with the horse once 22:41 yeah 22:41 I think famine is probably the most dangerous rider in evil 22:41 If they revived along with their rider, it would make fights a lot harder 22:42 I think so. You can get sickness res from quite a few sources 22:42 and death can be countered with GoP or very high hp 22:42 I would say it's death because famine can be death ray'd, but yeah GoPur exists 22:42 IMO death is the current spookiest in vanilla, though 22:43 have you ever polyselfed on the astral plane? 22:43 as of 3.7 he revives really fast and you can get sickness res from green dragon scale mail so pestilence isn't a big deal 22:43 to avoid being so slow as a tortle 22:43 noisytoot no, but I probably should 22:43 vorpal jabberwock :D 22:43 xD 22:44 I swear that vorpal jabberwock idea could have worked 22:44 Idk, you can only attack one thing at a time 22:45 if you get surrounded, could be gg 22:45 some people hold Views about it, but it would be so funny 22:45 what was the actual idea? 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed Nightsorrow the human zombie, and former Ronin, on T:6054 (1:00:13) 22:45 other than nurse dance as a vorpal J for some reason 22:45 in the sanctum 22:45 basically just nurse dance as vorpal J to get a lot of HP and then behead lucifer 22:45 ping me if youre gonna do that 22:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:45 would be funny 22:46 oh I already did I died 22:46 Oh 22:46 rodney showed up and tod'd me 22:46 sadge 22:46 whilst nurse dancing? 22:46 yes 22:46 I need to put a stop message in my rc for his appearances 22:46 do it as a role that gets a MR QA 22:47 so you don't have to be without MR 22:47 Or just farm player monsters 22:47 they generally have 50/50 chance of MR amulet 22:47 loggers was wearing unchanging 22:47 no alternative for that in evilhack 22:47 the problem was that I was wearing an unchanging amulet instead of my MR amulet, so I didn't- yeah 22:47 Ah 22:48 only alternative would be slotless ig 22:48 I think I could do a thing where I rely on the pyec for the first turn of MR; as long as I get a free turn to take off the unchanging amulet, if I get death'd I'd still revert to normal form, right? 22:48 not necessarily, ring-slot would work (p'hul) 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:8837 (1:10:06) 22:48 I forget about that item 22:48 if you get killed by anything other than HP loss you don't revert 22:49 touch of death is not HP loss, so no 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed mithril amulet of unchanging", on T:99034 (5 days, 2:04:02) 22:49 oh, I'd thought touch of death was HP damage for some reason 22:49 oh hey a piranha killed gollum 22:50 Must've been confused 22:50 beheading is HP damage 22:50 other instadeaths aren't 22:51 ah yeah beheading, got that conflated 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:9024 (1:13:25) 22:52 noisytoot, will you play tnnt 22:52 yes, probably 22:52 cool 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19507 (3:23:23) 23:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Ith Fem Cha), 255897 points, T:44578, petrified by Medusa 23:07 I really think that tortles should get intrinsic slow digestion at some point 23:07 oh no dingotron! 23:08 and then after putting on and taking off blindfold 15 times before facing medusa... I forgot that I had taken it off. 23:08 :c 23:08 :( 23:08 just ... after taking no chances by making sure I had a lizard corpse in main inventory ready to eat 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:16432 (1:30:08) 23:09 well that cursed run finally can be put to rest 23:10 interesting, a woodland-elf had a dark elven cloak 23:16 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 23:18 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:18350 (1:42:40) 23:28 My dragon got levelported up 8 levels :) 23:28 fun times 23:29 what color is it 23:29 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:9602 (1:44:38) 23:29 blue 23:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a staff of healing entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:14785 (3:34:03) 23:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:20696 (1:54:41) 23:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:20095 (3:38:08) 23:33 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:38 "Worthy vassal, know now thy true identity! Behold thy steed, the Red Horse!" 23:45 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 23:51 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 13410 points, T:11754, killed by a human watchman 23:52 Such a cool line :) 23:56 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:610 (0:03:16) 23:57 Umbire Found a fully stacked armor shop. The illithid within me is calling to come out :( 23:57 lmao 23:57 Even has CPM. This shit is insane