00:00 [EvilHack] ElonSatoshi starred EvilHack - https://github.com/ElonSatoshi 00:04 [hdf-us] [evil] newuser (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 101 points, T:658, killed by a crossbow bolt 00:06 When zombie corpses become foo zombie corpses, will they revive if taken out of the container? 00:08 what do you mean? 00:08 Suppose you kill a gnome zombie and put it in container 00:08 That corpse will eventually become gnome zombie corpse, instead of gnome zombie 00:08 would that gnome zombie corpse revive after taken out? 00:09 oh 00:09 hmm 00:09 I have like 10 of them in my bag, and really wanna get moving 00:12 If you get the message "You feel less hassled.", it means that a corpse attempted and failed to revive. 00:12 Corpses like those won't try to revive again. 00:12 Minus the Riders, I'm pretty sure reviving monsters only roll once. 00:13 Hope so. These zombies dont stop spawning 00:13 and I have my little pet dragon with me. One bite and is gg 00:13 for the dragon 00:13 You can stock up on eucalyptus. 00:13 Dont' have any 00:13 Though, do you mean a pseudodragon or an actual dragon? 00:14 Kick some trees if you're not afraid of bees. 00:14 actual dragon 00:14 I am very afraid of bees 00:14 5% poison resist 00:14 I see. 00:14 [hdf-us] [evil] newuser (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 74 points, T:624, killed by a goblin 00:26 Minetown with co-aligned temple 00:26 My run is saved :) 00:39 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed knnn the elf zombie, and former Conjurer, on T:2480 (0:14:06) 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2998 (0:19:08) 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:3005 (0:19:25) 00:46 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18341 (3:00:14) 00:56 so "foo zombie corpses" definitely won't revive, for the record 00:58 It's failing to revive that identifies them as zombie corpses. 00:58 i believe it's a bug 00:58 Thanks for clarification 00:58 this run has been zombie hell 00:59 Not sure about it being a bug. Sounds like a useful way to let the player know when it's safe 01:00 but it's a weird way to do it; if anything it's less of a zombie now that it's guaranteed to rot away 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:19250 (3:10:33) 01:00 idk; we can ask k2 tomorrow 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril broad pick on an altar, on T:4894 (0:35:39) 01:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a winter wolf, on T:19712 (3:11:15) 01:01 Aye 01:01 Maybe a tempting snack to some ;) 01:04 !tell k2 Imanity noticed that zombie corpses go from "foo corpse" to "foo zombie corpse" after failing to revive; is this intentional? (if not, see https://termbin.com/706p) 01:04 Will do, terrapin! 01:04 'night, y'all. good luck with the undead horde, Imanity! 01:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a platinum broadsword entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:19832 (3:14:15) 01:04 ty o/ 01:05 Night terrapin. 01:07 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7283 points, T:5265, quit 01:07 !lastgame DragonSidedD 01:07 Imanity: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DragonSidedD/evilhack/dumplog/1698207916.evil.html 01:08 Why would he quit? 01:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a leather alchemy smock entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:20108 (3:19:11) 01:09 Because? 01:10 The temple priest wasnt even angered 01:10 * Umbire shrugs 01:10 Sometimes you're just not feeling a run. 01:10 I don't try to throw away too many myself, but that's just me. 01:10 Likewise. I need to have a distinct reasont to quit 01:10 Like pet dying when i need it 01:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:02 Vecna's robe is burnt, right? 02:02 OR rotted. 02:02 I can't remember if it's always one, the other, or a coinflip between both. 02:02 Past!me very unhelpfully left it vague on the article. 02:07 Cursed rotted robe of drain resistance 02:08 And it's always that, then. 02:09 Just checked 3 times in wizard mode 02:10 and remember it being a rotted robe from previous encounters 02:13 Cool. 02:42 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:49 Can anyone link to the bugs which have been fixed since the release version? 02:50 Or is it all on the document? 03:19 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: No route to host] 03:19 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/doc/evilhack-changelog.md you mean? 03:21 I mean anything that's been changed since then 03:21 Think I found some bugs to do with vampires, but idk if they were fixed, or even bugs in the first place 03:22 ah, K2 will have to answer that 03:24 meanwhile, after the sysconf tweaks my status bar looks more colourful :-) 03:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:32 !tell K2 Are these bugs? 03:32 I'm on it, Imanity. 03:32 Using #monster when in a vampire bat or fog cloud polyform (as a different starting race, having used #monster after controlled polymorph into a vampire) doesn't change you back to a vampire; instead giving the usual message "any special ability you may have is purely reflexive" 03:32 Using potion of polymorph as a vampire bat whilst wearing a ring of polymorph control, ignores polymorph control and turns you into a random monser. This is despite the ring still being worn, Fog clouds get to choose their polyform as usual 03:36 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:00 from the log: "foo zombie corpses", what did terrapin mean by that? 04:01 When a zombie corpse tries and fails to revive, it's marked as "a zombie corpse". 04:01 Happens here and in Hack'EM. 04:01 Easily reproducible if you stuff a killed zombie in a locked container or BoH. 04:02 I'm stumped by the foo, what would be an example? 04:02 rotted? 04:03 oh, the race? 04:03 yes 04:03 hobbit, gnome, etc 04:03 ah 04:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:37829 (1 day, 1:49:25) 04:30 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:44 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, on T:121141 (1 day, 5:22:52) 04:45 Did she drop scales dminsy? 04:45 *xdminsy 04:46 Nope, but I'm wearing AoR. 04:48 Oh 04:48 so not really replacable anyway 04:52 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:52 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 05:03 why do monsters get seared when they hit me... 05:03 You're wearing something silver 05:03 most likely 05:04 no I just realised 05:04 yellow-scaled armor 05:04 Oh yeah the passive 05:04 yellow dragon at medusa dropped scales 05:05 How are you resisting cancellation without GDSM? 05:06 No way? 05:07 I always ensure I have a way to resist 05:07 But if mobileuser is managing without, maybe I don't need to 05:08 don't melee gray dragons? :b 05:08 What about wands of cancellation 05:08 the cancellation monster spell too 05:08 are pretty nasty 05:09 Monsters will cast cancellation? 05:09 they will 05:09 THey will use wands of cancellation 05:09 or cast it if theyre able 05:09 You can lose 10-15 AC in a single fight 05:10 If multiple arch liches or alhoons for example 05:10 Cancellation is a monster spell for very high-level casting monsters. 05:10 You may or may not have had Vecna give it the college try on your a bit. 05:10 Standard magic resistance can blunt the impact of the spell if I recall - probably stacks with half spell damage. 05:11 I think it's per item. So MR reduces it to 2 or 3 items, and half spell halves it 05:11 Imanity I find it most often happens in gehennom, do you agree? 05:11 Yes 05:11 Wondering how you get around it 05:12 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:12 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 05:12 so when I detect a wand of cancellation in the distance with object det, I start to plan how to deal with it... 05:12 What about for spellcasters? 05:13 they don't cast it THAT often and blessed items can resist 05:13 and you often dont know when a wand of cancellation is being wielded by a mob 05:13 Hmm 05:13 yeah, sometimes you get hit. I don't find it such a big deal 05:13 yellow dragon scaled armor would be useful 05:14 what's your cloak? 05:14 Can't always everything-proof yourself, so sometimes you gotta decide what punches you can roll with. 05:14 magic resistance 05:14 my goal is that super armor I forget the name of 05:14 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:77410 (3 days, 13:47:16) 05:15 Armor of retribution? 05:15 yeah 05:15 the yellow scales were just the best one I got at the moment 05:16 Don't There're so many monsters in wizard tower. 05:16 There are a ton, but mainly non-humanoids 05:16 Some dangerous. I found 3 beholders there 05:16 player monsters typically roam the outside looking for a way in 05:25 lol "For some reason, the giant zombie's presence is known to you. You feel aggravated at the giant zombie." 05:25 some spellcaster is busy 05:27 Ah, good old aggravate. 05:30 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful ettin mummy, on T:122841 (1 day, 6:08:07) 05:39 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:42 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:123222 (1 day, 6:20:40) 05:42 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:43 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 05:45 Well I can't call rodney out quaffing cursed invisibility? 05:46 Not anymore, I don't think. 05:46 Not sure. 05:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:48 rodney is like vecna 05:48 -!- mobileuser22 has joined #evilhack 05:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:53 -!- mobileuser22 is now known as mobileuser 05:54 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:55 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 05:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:11 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 06:12 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:123375 (1 day, 6:50:06) 06:12 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:123376 (1 day, 6:50:07) 06:13 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:14 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 06:19 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:123707 (1 day, 6:57:05) 06:30 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the giant high priest of Moloch, on T:123998 (1 day, 7:08:05) 06:33 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:124095 (1 day, 7:11:18) 06:33 Lol I killed the priest and zappe teleportation to tp the balrog. 06:34 Then accidentally teleported my amulet.. 06:39 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:124204 (1 day, 7:17:09) 06:39 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:124208 (1 day, 7:17:25) 06:40 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:124227 (1 day, 7:17:57) 06:44 I see that non-chaotics can wield the Sword of Kas again 06:46 And I didn't unlock two-handed sword skill because I assumed I wouldn't be able to use the Sword of Kas =D 06:56 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:125080 (1 day, 7:34:50) 07:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:04 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 07:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:05 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:125349 (1 day, 7:43:53) 07:05 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the White Horse, on T:125349 (1 day, 7:43:53) 07:09 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:125425 (1 day, 7:47:37) 07:09 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:125426 (1 day, 7:47:38) 07:10 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 07:10 -!- stenno has quit [Killed (lead.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 07:10 -!- chao is now known as stenno 07:10 congrats xdminsy! 07:10 Thx mobileuser! 07:12 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 6695461 points, T:125444, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xdminsy/evilhack/dumplog/1697938259.evil.html 07:14 And, where's that beholder boss. 07:14 I don't see it this game. 07:14 GG. 07:14 Uh, did you not see a stairway or something similar leading down from the Castle? 07:14 portal in the VotD 07:15 Ah. 07:15 I think in the upper right 07:15 Was trying to remember where he'd put it. 07:15 I see, I thought it was in wizard tower level 2. 07:17 This game I just killed Lucifer in melee, and he gated yeenoghu. 07:41 Has there just been an update? Something looks different. 07:43 yes, "sysconf tweaks" 07:43 Can I read about those? 07:44 (The git commit is fine) 07:44 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master 07:45 2 commits 07:45 Thanks. 07:46 Oh some really good ones there. 07:48 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1666 (0:44:10) 07:52 Those options for hunger, in particular, seem to override mine. 07:52 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 07:54 I think I saw terrapin mentioning that too... 07:54 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:55 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed knnn's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2228 (0:48:31) 08:03 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a knife entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:10576 (3:40:28) 08:06 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a wooden spear entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:10631 (3:43:40) 08:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 338859 points, T:40861, killed by a snow golem 08:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:22 wazzupw 08:22 *wazzup 08:22 congrats xdminsy! 08:23 ^ that 08:24 Was reading logs, wand of orcus will be usable? awesome 08:25 congrats xdminsy 08:25 K2: Message from terrapin at 2023-10-25 01:04 EDT: Imanity noticed that zombie corpses go from "foo corpse" to "foo zombie corpse" after failing to revive; is this intentional? (if not, see https://termbin.com/706p) 08:25 K2: Message from Imanity at 2023-10-25 03:32 EDT: Are these bugs? 08:25 Loggers_VIII yeah 08:25 mobileuser you like the sysconf tweaks? that you're noticing them must mean you have a minimal config :P 08:26 the sysconf tweaks shouldnt override same setting in player cfg 08:26 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:26 if they are i may need to revert some of it 08:27 Yo K2 08:27 K2 I am a "accept all defaults" kind of person ;-) 08:27 heh 08:27 heya Umbire 08:27 I like smart defaults 08:27 * K2 nods 08:28 but, if the statushilite tweaks are overriding player settings, that's no good 08:28 thx loggers k2. 08:29 xdminsy play some tortles now :) 08:30 !tell terrapin no that is not intentional, we'll discuss when you're around 08:30 No worries, K2, I've got this! 08:30 What's going on your healer tortles. 08:31 idk, I am not doing good with them. playing too many other games to focus on nethack 08:32 plus this roguelike I’ve been checking out called “real life” has been kicking my ass lately :P 08:33 Loggers_VIII: I'm just as good at real life as I am in evilhack. :) 08:34 hah 08:34 I had an idea for wand of orcus- maybe instead of/in addition to suppressing HP regeneration, it could drain a % of your HP for every x turns it’s wielded (and when you wield it initially, so no I wielding shenanigans). Maybe a smop 08:34 % of max hp, I mean 08:34 *no unwielding shenanigans 08:34 these are current ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L61 08:35 oh cool 08:36 fine line to walk between making it dangerous to use and making it functionally still unusable 08:36 yeah 08:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:4361 (1:29:23) 08:37 i dont think anyone would want to use it ever if you lost maxhp everytime you wiedled it 08:37 wow that’s an early aphrodite, only turn 4k? 08:37 K2 idk, no regeneration is also pretty crippling 08:38 I meant to say this a while back, but is it intentional that rings of regeneration don’t let you regenerate in votd? 08:39 yes 08:40 aw 08:40 Passive regen's shut off entirely, so it tracks. 08:40 Hmm, just now, I moved a boulder. Moved it back. Then triggered a boulder trap I didn't know was there. 08:40 yeah but it’s magiccccc 08:40 lol arahael 08:41 I just had a really evil idea; being in the votd induces withering, and you have to use regeneration to even regenerate nothing :P 08:42 only way to heal yourself in the votd is healing spells/potions 08:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 Magicbane", on T:39398 (1 day, 3:36:06) 08:43 yeah, my healers at least have had an okay time down there 08:43 oh eating things that heal you would work too 08:44 but a ring of regen is basically just casting a tiny little healing spell every turn, right? Yerhonor 08:44 Loggers_VIII: I thought moving a boulder prevents it from being used in a trap. 08:44 heh no 08:44 is that just jelly? 08:44 it increases the rate of your natural regeneration 08:44 greatly 08:44 Arahael, boulder traps work if the boulders in the right spot 08:45 ah k2 that actually makes sense. Curses! 08:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:39401 (1 day, 3:38:00) 08:45 Loggers_VIII: Somehow I thought that had changed at some point over the past few years. Clearly I'm mistaken. 08:46 Yep, just move the boulder once and you’re good 08:47 Would demons wielding WoO get any bonus (or resistance to its negative aspects?) 08:47 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 08:47 besides the death resistance 08:47 so far with the WoO, it suppresses hp regen, drains more maxhp from monsters than previously (still need to tweak that) and you can invoke it to tame undead close to you 08:47 no regeneration is fine if you can cast healing spells 08:48 the WoO doesnt confer death res 08:48 never did 08:48 I’ve found that healing spells aren’t enough to keep up with evilhack’s lategame 08:48 K2, I mean their innate death resistance protecting from max hp drain 08:48 i love this... the WoO 08:48 woo! 08:48 woo \o/ 08:48 lol 08:49 Loggers_VIII i havent fleshed out any special handling for demons 08:49 i have to be careful there, otherwise infidels may wind up with a mega boost 08:49 and they;re already pretty powerful after crowning 08:49 circling back to healing spells, wouldn’t it be cool if there was a healing spell at finger of death/cancellation level that healed a bunch? Make healers actually heal :) 08:50 dnethack has a full healing spell 08:50 or just make it that extra healing heals more at higher levels, that’d be better 08:50 Loggers_VIII Noisytoot yeah i've thought about that 08:50 that doesn't actually fully heal, just heals up to 200 HP depending on skill level, always a flat amount 08:50 krm26 and I discussed various spells having added effects when cast at higher skill levels 08:50 healing spells were aprt of that discussion 08:51 *part 08:51 basic skill would be your baseline (same effects as current) 08:51 (level 7 healing spell, heals 50/100/150/200 at unskilled/basic/skilled/expert) 08:52 unskilled would be lesser effect, skilled and greater would have more impact 08:52 yeah 08:52 Good, I've always wondered why I bother upskilling the various spell slots. 08:52 adding a new spell would break saves 08:52 but it would be possible to tweak existing spell behavior 08:52 without save breaking 08:52 yay! 08:53 K2: Would this apply to say, protection, and confuse monster? 08:53 protection spell already takes skill into account 08:53 I think healers are badass early-mid game but they get forced into being melee/magic missile only like so many other NetHack roles 08:53 Ah, interesting. 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a Green-elf, on T:4726 (0:39:37) 08:55 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:55 K2, vanilla question - being hit by a thrown potion deals the same damage to you as it would if you quaffed it, yes? 08:55 i dont know off the top of my head 08:55 the physical damage is very small 08:56 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:57 Looks to be the same dice according to potion.c 08:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4859 (0:41:59) 08:58 -!- Loggers_VIII15 has joined #evilhack 08:58 -!- Loggers_VIII15 has quit [Client Quit] 08:58 -!- Log has joined #evilhack 08:58 i need to check and see if the status hilite tweaks in sysconf are overriding player settings 08:59 if they are i'll need to remove them :/ 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5050 (0:44:14) 09:00 yeah satiated for me is now brown not yellow 09:00 and my pw looks different 09:00 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1122 (0:08:28) 09:01 K2: It's unfortunate because I like most of them and think they should already be the default. 09:01 ugh yeah they are 09:01 looks nice but I have played like 1500 hours with the other settings :P 09:01 yup 09:02 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:02 -!- Log is now known as Loggers_VIII 09:02 technically this is a bug 09:02 I agree. 09:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 931 points, T:1521, killed by the Goblin King 09:04 seems to just be with OPTIONS=hilite_status: entries 09:05 gonna have to remove them (for now). if you like the status hilite changes and want to keep them, see my cfg - https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/k2.evilrc 09:06 K2: Is it perhaps possible to instead make them a default config instead? (Ie, in the ssh interface) 09:06 Doesn't help those of us who modify it, but still. 09:06 yeah it is 09:06 Very nice. 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 3812 points, T:3398, killed by a fireball 09:07 maybe that was a hellhound or something 09:10 !lastgame Loggers 09:10 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1698154682.evil.html 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:735 (0:03:11) 09:11 Loggers_VIII is was a barbed devil of Moloch 09:11 * it 09:11 oh, actually I bet willislamma tried to convert and got barbed- yeah 09:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:883 (0:05:28) 09:13 I thought he got a demon lord too... but maybe those can disappear from bones? 09:14 maybe it was hanging out by the stairs 09:14 Isn't there a hard limit on how many times those can appear? So if it's already been generated... 09:14 fortunately I did not generate any demon lords up to that point 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 1445 points, T:1080, killed by a piranha 09:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 10020 points, T:6571, killed by a leocrotta 09:20 sysconf status hilites bits removed 09:20 bummer that those cant be overridden 09:20 i took a quick look as to why, to 'fix' it might be rather involved 09:21 need to see if it's the same way in 3.7 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:833 (0:03:45) 09:25 Loggers_VIII if you want your old status color settings back, just save/reload 09:25 if you havent already 09:25 mobileuser, grab my cfg :P 09:25 (part of it anyways) 09:25 cool 09:26 was fun playing as k2 for a little while but I am a creature of habit :) 09:26 hahah 09:26 oh it was actually knnn who died in pretty much the same way as willislama, but they also got Mephistopheles 09:27 I'm going to have to RTFM first K2... 09:29 :P 09:29 WTFD 09:29 ^ wahs the fucking dish 09:29 *wash 09:31 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/k2.evilrc \o/ 09:31 weee 09:31 Was gonna say, you can't get demon lords from converting, but a demon minion can gate them. 09:32 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:32 correct 09:32 knnn got a barbed devil who then gated in Mephistopheles 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 2040 points, T:3669, killed by an orcish arrow 09:35 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:36 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/potion.c#L2101 This just prompts you to type-name an unknown potion, right? 09:37 -!- Log has joined #evilhack 09:38 -!- Log is now known as Loggers_VIII 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a bone long sword entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:12874 (5:16:26) 09:39 yes 09:39 Coo 09:40 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/potion.c#L2134 Same here vis a vis goto poof;? 09:45 [hdf-us] [evil] newuser (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:1038 (0:23:24) 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a leather studded armor entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:13502 (5:23:28) 09:49 for the THIRD TIME IN A ROW, hole to gollum's is in the hammer cell, and it's blocked off with no door... 09:49 what are the odds man >:( 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 1490 points, T:1349, killed by trying to drink molten lava 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a staff of war entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:1467 (0:02:58) 09:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:80581 (3 days, 18:16:27) 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:22312 (3:36:54) 10:01 YANI: tourists can get gifted stacks of darts 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3099 (0:09:43) 10:03 omg makrer 10:03 *marker 10:04 but where is the hole to gollum's 10:04 you must kill yourself if you can't reach it 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2076 (0:10:55) 10:06 it's inaccessible :D 10:06 lol 10:07 wait, nevermind 10:07 I can use the acid potion from the forge chest to get in 10:07 no hammer btw :) 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4035 (0:14:40) 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4478 (0:17:12) 10:12 \o/ 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:6988 (0:26:09) 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 14 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4065 (0:27:22) 10:23 what are the odds man >:( <--- apparently 100% 10:23 :P 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 17 bone shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4282 (0:31:22) 10:26 lol 10:26 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:27 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 10:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:5319 (0:42:56) 10:48 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7269 (1:01:08) 10:57 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a staff of healing entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:7593 (1:02:51) 10:58 hi 10:58 Hello terrapin, Welcome to #evilhack 10:58 terrapin: Message from K2 at 2023-10-25 08:30 EDT: no that is not intentional, we'll discuss when you're around 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:15819 (6:36:20) 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat (floating eye) for the first time, on T:7801 (1:04:31) 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] newuser (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 842 points, T:1794, killed by the Goblin King, while fainted from lack of food 11:10 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:13 !tell Imanity if you're any kind of bat you're permanently stunned so polycontrol won't work. shifting back and forth between vampire and bat/fog cloud/wolf would be neat but very tricky to implement. 11:13 Imanity shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, terrapin. 11:13 hi. 11:13 Hello xdminsy, Welcome to #evilhack 11:13 congrats on the ascension, xdminsy! 11:14 haha thx. 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2413 (0:27:58) 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Splunge's ghost, the former Brute, on T:16806 (7:09:08) 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3235 (0:45:05) 11:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:17374 (7:30:25) 11:57 heya 12:01 i've always felt that 'hi' is an odd choice of letters to start a conversation. 'ab' feels much more orthographically appropriate 12:07 or use yz instead of bye 12:07 ab! 12:07 yz! 12:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:08 ab Loggers_VIII 12:08 ab? 12:09 yeah 12:09 ab o/ 12:10 ab! 12:10 alright so it's not a COMPLETE nonstarter 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:83863 (1 day, 0:24:51) 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a spellbook of cure blindness given to him by Hermes, on T:9547 (0:38:26) 12:19 ab 12:19 yz Orcus 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 11118 points, T:11338, diseased by an orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 12:21 terrapin you've started a trend 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 374 points, T:301, killed by a hobgoblin 12:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 180 points, T:291, killed by a goblin 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17544 (8:07:42) 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2729 (0:11:23) 12:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:53 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 12:54 xdminsy gz on ascension 12:54 Imanity: Message from terrapin at 2023-10-25 11:13 EDT: if you're any kind of bat you're permanently stunned so polycontrol won't work. shifting back and forth between vampire and bat/fog cloud/wolf would be neat but very tricky to implement. 12:55 !tell terrapin Interesting. I didn't know stun blocked polycontrol 12:55 No worries, Imanity, I've got this! 13:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3028 (0:13:04) 13:03 ab! 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a large shield entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:18441 (8:40:21) 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3962 (0:16:40) 13:11 I found a bug, "vommitting" is spelled wrongly 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15750 (3:07:18) 13:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:40291 (1 day, 4:31:33) 13:13 almost done with the wand of orcus handling 13:14 and now that i've said it, i'll find 10 more things i need to address 13:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:14 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:14 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 13:15 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:16 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Tal'Gath, on T:40430 (1 day, 4:37:27) 13:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) performed his first genocide (beholders), on T:40432 (1 day, 4:37:58) 13:18 mobileuser yeah, sounds like a stomach bug to me 13:18 terrapin: Message from Imanity at 2023-10-25 12:55 EDT: Interesting. I didn't know stun blocked polycontrol 13:18 xD 13:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Mal Neu), 40242 points, T:16587, killed by a locust 13:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:23 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 13:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed Graz'zt, on T:83499 (3 days, 21:52:04) 13:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:55 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±12] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9c8558e2de94...c9bc367f1733 13:55 [EvilHack] k21971 c9bc367 - Wand of Orcus changes. 13:56 ^ please review 14:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:08 1) The occasional-curse-while-wielding is clever; keeps you from just immediately uncursing on wield. 2) Love that invoking a cursed WoO will piss off undead---appropriately evil! 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1715 (0:21:02) 14:09 3) Not being able to twoweapon WoO sounds reasonable, but if you don't implement that, you'll still need to figure out some way to discourage wielding it in the offhand, since that doesn't curse it. 4) Some update_inventory()s might be needed after some of the curse()s, especially in allmain.c and maybe in wield.c 14:10 ah yeah 14:10 for curses/perm_invent ppl 14:10 overall it seems appropriately sinister, looks cool! 14:10 invoking wont piss off undead, it'll tame them 14:11 thanks! 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible knnn's ghost, the former Mercenary, on T:21014 (9:47:15) 14:12 just nearby undead though, so 8 max 14:13 but a cursed WoO will act like a cursed scroll of taming and annoy peaceful undead instead. i think it's neat that way but i could see allowing a cursed WoO to tame as well 14:13 aaaaah right 14:14 I think it'll be cooler the other way around 14:14 cursed tames. Blessed/uncursed aggravates 14:14 the intent was that it tame undead regardless of its BUC 14:14 I suppose losing max hp is a high price to pay 14:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] hackemslashem (Val Dwa Fem Law), 632 points, T:933, killed by the Goblin King, while fumbling 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2245 points, T:2519, killed by a hill orc 14:15 there is no losing max hp when wielding it 14:15 I mean whilst hitting 14:15 well the target will yes 14:15 not the player wielding it 14:15 Thought the player loses max hp with each hit 14:16 that was an idea being floated 14:16 ah 14:16 read the commit notes 14:16 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c9bc367f17339b98f7d626bcab3a22d04a14924f 14:17 Looks good 14:17 thanks 14:22 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 14:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] hackemslashem (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 953 points, T:1031, burned by an exploding fire bomb 14:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:21626 (9:59:14) 14:27 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:91829 (17:02:35) 14:29 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:33 hey a marker at The Hidden Dungeon 14:33 noice 14:33 Forgot it has the 10% chance 14:34 Might be worth doing. I usually skip that branch 14:36 you skip the hidden dungeon? *gasp* 14:37 passing up all of the fame and fortune 14:37 xD 14:37 Maybe if it had more crystal chests 14:37 Like in ice queen branch 14:37 the real prize is being able to genocide beholders 14:37 I usually go genoless 14:37 :) 14:38 So 10% chance for mm+ one crystal chest 14:38 and all the fame that comes with killing tal'gath 14:38 I do like it when Hecubus says my name 14:38 you have no idea how worn out mobileuser is right now 14:39 lol 14:39 :P 14:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] hackemslashem (Tou Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2176 (0:16:13) 14:39 massive epic battle :-) 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1629501 points, T:92441, incinerated in molten lava by a salamander 14:39 noooooo 14:39 ooooh bouquet 14:39 F 14:39 :/ 14:39 Rip 14:40 !lastgame bouquet 14:40 Imanity: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1697594005.evil.html 14:40 daaaaang... 14:40 mobileuser that's not what I meant by being worn out :) 14:40 lol 14:40 my only source of levitation was boots so I lost speed. 14:40 1 turn away from teleporting him away :( 14:40 ya, he got a grasp in there FAST 14:40 whevs 14:41 a tooled horn is so good to have in that situation 14:41 I was whacking him with a halberd from 2 spaces away. He moved and grabbed me fast. I wasn't even encumbered 14:42 ya, I had JUST put away my camera to avoid encumberance 14:42 I usually carry my wands of tp in open inventory. Saved me dozens of times 14:42 I was doing my 'clear the salamanders first' thing before attacking vecna. I was being really careful but this dude moved fast I guess. 14:43 once they grab you, you really need to get free immediately... 14:43 anyway, the upside is I get to do Goblin King again! Silver linings... 14:43 \o/ 14:46 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 14:47 anyway, that wasn't my first salamander-drowning-rodeo, thus my levitation and polearm approach. I guess I shouldn't take off my speed boots :( 14:49 I would've just kept a charged wand of tp in open inventory 14:50 I usually do! I was just careless and trying to stay unencumbered. 14:52 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:23659 (10:28:43) 14:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:53 hi 14:53 Hello Loggers_VIII, Welcome to #evilhack 14:54 o/ 14:54 "Oh wow, man: Fractals!" 14:54 forgot I was still hallucinating 14:54 heh 14:56 Surprised my newly tamed warhorse didn't need feeding after dragging it up 10 dungeon levels 14:57 yay first try full inventory ID :) 14:58 loveee that feeling 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:23734 (10:33:29) 14:59 lol, how'd I get a dilithium crystal this early 15:00 thanks gk 15:00 Loggers_VIII wooop 15:00 yeah i love it when that happens 15:01 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:01 helps that I actually identified some cool stuff. scrolls of charging, potion of polymorph, ring of slow digestion, aforementioned dilithium 15:01 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 15:01 nooice 15:01 holy there's 3 magic lamps in this game 15:01 fuck I'm so dead :P 15:02 lol 15:02 RNG is coming for you xD 15:02 Loggers_VIII did you see the wand of orcus commit 15:02 k2 yes it looks Cool 15:03 k 15:03 some tweaks are coming 15:03 there's kind of a gajillion effects though, might be worth trying to consolidate a little 15:03 what do you mean 15:04 I don't know, it seems like a lot to keep track of. it will likely be fine tbh 15:04 that's why my brain is stored in the cloud and powered by AI 15:04 hahaha 15:04 which also explains why i forget shit 15:04 what do you mean? AI is perfectly infallible for every aspect of daily life 15:05 I mean, it can even draw subpar hentai! 15:05 rofl 15:05 i cant draw 15:05 i'd mess up a stick figure 15:05 I can draw a *mean* stick figure 15:05 wtf I just fell down a shaft from minetown to orc temple 15:06 I really hope I can make it out of this one 15:08 maybe this will happen as you fight your way through - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2634/source 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 10039 points, T:6081, killed by life drainage 15:08 fuck off man :( 15:08 doh 15:08 Lol k2 15:09 life drainage? 15:09 wraiths are surprisingly dangerous that early 15:09 Drained to level 0? 15:09 I'm so used to them being pushovers 15:09 !lastgame Loggers 15:09 Imanity: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1698251092.evil.html 15:10 can mines end leave bones 15:10 no 15:11 boo 15:11 loggers_viii brought down by a lowly wraith after killing 20 orcs, what a way to go 15:11 oh hey a newt dropped full healing that's nice :) 15:14 ooh, learned protection. that will help me be very very tanky 15:16 whoever invented the stupid fire trap on chests should be given a very stern talking-to and be sent to bed without dessert 15:16 xD 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1389 (0:06:46) 15:18 What level do you kill goblin king Loggers_VIII? 15:18 I find healer to be too weak until around lvl 6-7 15:18 sheer determination and willpower 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1525 (0:08:05) 15:19 imanity I like to be at least level 3 15:20 Wtf how? 15:20 you can just put him to sleep 15:20 Oh 15:20 Yeah 15:20 then he cant clobber with 2x melee attacks 15:20 if you want to melee without doing that level 5 with sting is I think good 15:20 depending on how lucky you get with HP 15:20 yeah 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 28510 points, T:8164, killed by a mastodon 15:21 sometimes I mess around a bit so I become able to melee him without sleep, like this run 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1733 (0:09:57) 15:21 got my AC to -12 with protection and melee'd him with sting, ezpz 15:21 Ye 15:22 kill him fast a few times, it feels really easy to do normally afterward 15:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:22 imo a good way to get more consistent at evilhack is to make it unneccessarily hard on yourself and then go back to playing normal :P 15:23 I guess sleep is the key. I'm kind of paranoid he'll wake up 15:23 he will usually wake up a few times 15:23 but if you have ~25 HP he won't be able to oneturn kill you 15:23 Guess need to make sure it doesnt bounce too 15:23 Or doesnt bounce and hit you 15:23 yeah I've done that a couple times, doesn't feel good :) 15:24 you can check with your stethoscope too, sometimes it will tell you he woke up before he hits you 15:25 Before he gets a turn in 15:25 A nymph just spawned, stole the BoH from my pet and wasted 2 polymorph charges :( 15:25 whata dick 15:26 Serves me right for being a credit cloner 15:26 xD 15:26 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 15:26 heh, karmic punishment? 15:27 Indeed 15:27 Thankfully it turned into an even weaker form 15:27 Don't think I could mentally stomach another antimatter vortex 15:28 how come you can't type name the magical staffs? 15:29 Fuck I forgot my dragon was on this level 15:29 Killed the tinkerer 15:30 are you playing hackem? 15:30 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:30 ye 15:30 cool 15:31 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2555/source 15:32 I'll come back to claim wf tortle healer after ;) 15:32 hah 15:33 imanity nah you can't catch up to me :) 15:33 Too fast 15:33 I have faith in one (1) ability of mine, and it is the ability to play evilhack more quickly than average 15:34 when is someone gonna speedrun evilhack 15:34 really, inside me there is a guy who wants to play really slowly and methodically, trying to come to the surface. but he is foolish 15:34 k2 never probably 15:34 lies 15:35 all the evilhack players are slow and all the speedrunners think it's too hard 15:35 blaspheme 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 11240 points, T:3944, killed by a mountain dwarf 15:35 oh woops 15:35 shadowrider ascended evilhack 15:35 he didnt speedrun it tho 15:35 well if he gets faster than me I'll speedrun it 15:36 but shadowrider underwent the anime plot of "guy gets too strong too fast and then everything is boring" 15:37 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:84043 (1 day, 0:35:14) 15:41 K2: I read the changes to wand of orcus... is it intended to be an uber-weapon for infidels? 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1109 (0:07:30) 15:41 not really 15:41 Loggers_VIII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iOi_iPNC50 15:41 they dont suffer from it being cursed, but it'll still suppress health regen 15:42 did you take my suggestion of marker/death wand?!!? 15:42 also, infidels cant train mace (rod falls under mace for training skill) 15:42 I'm trying to think why anyone would want to wield it in that case in the late game 15:42 does is suppress health regen for orcus? 15:42 (or other monsters that wield it) 15:43 yeah but prob shouldnt for orcus seeing as how it's his property 15:43 I like the idea that orcus is such a badass he just didn't need health regen until you showed up 15:43 i literally just killed orcus.. i'm guessing i can't give the wand to one of my titans? 15:43 its not live yet rebatela 15:43 so no you cant 15:44 currently only non player demons can use it 15:44 i usually put a boulder over it 15:44 I think Orcus can cast cure self anyway 15:44 yes he can 15:44 my list of late-game-uber-powers is very short: phasing, level drain, bisection. If it can do any of that then I'd pick it up. 15:45 ughhh zombie apocalypse on this level :( 15:45 "You see a drawbridge going up!  Cerberus falls from the bridge." 15:45 yani remove zombies kthxbye 15:45 why bisection and not beheading? 15:46 gore-factor? 15:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Cerberus, on T:40753 (1 day, 5:03:07) 15:46 vorpal blade is my guilty pleasure weapon 15:46 last game my samurai was dualing Muramasa and Dichotomy. Chop/boom! 15:46 it kinda sucks but when you behead something it feels like frolicking in a warm spring meadow 15:47 i maintain that dichotomy should bisect things 15:47 don't remove zombies, just recalculate difficulty according to 3.4.3 rules 15:47 I maintain that terrapin is wrong 15:47 it should only finely filet things 15:48 it's literally called "Bisection!" 15:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) destroyed Charon, on T:40762 (1 day, 5:04:56) 15:48 Noisytoot glad you brought that up (mon health regen). I did include monsters in that but forgot it would affect orcus too 15:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 931 points, T:1665, killed by a bear trap 15:48 if I polymorph into orcus can I wield the wand and regen HP 15:48 you filet the hill orc! mmm smells good! 15:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4305 (0:13:28) 15:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) entered Gehennom, on T:40782 (1 day, 5:06:52) 15:50 the fire and frost blasts are just because the player doesn't know how to use the sword's microwave feature properly 15:50 hahaha 15:50 I think the explosions should be 20% of the time 15:50 #invoke to nuke a hot pocket 15:50 i STILL only have one death wand after killing orcus and everyone else 15:50 I'm starting a campaign to bring back the orcus death wand 15:50 I'm starting a campaign to uh not do that :P 15:51 well you don't have to use it if it drops 15:52 just cause I don't have to utilize something doesn't mean it should exist 15:52 yani: wand of orcus can be charged, and you can zap it for a death ray 15:56 invoke it for death ray 15:56 but invoke is already used up for it 15:56 i'd take that over "tame zombies" 15:56 was gonna suggest that but didn't cause the invoke is already tame zombies 15:56 make it like shadowblade 15:57 #invoke WoO to create a player monster named rebatela who doesnt have any wands of death in inventory 15:57 * K2 starts writing up the code 15:57 or, at risk of being too gimmicky, apply/zap to get death rays at will, at the cost of draining maxHP 15:57 maybe woo could just be made two handed, instead of being unable to be dual wielded 15:58 giant rod 15:58 hah 15:58 you said 'giant rod' 15:58 fuck 15:58 10 yr old me has entered chat 15:58 giants could still wield it in a single hand though 15:58 * Loggers_VIII disintegrates 15:58 terrapin that's just the ongoing problem that giants are super op 15:59 but they can't grease their bodies 15:59 i think salamanders would beg to differ :P 15:59 (though I say problem, it's hard enough to get a giant to the endgame anyway so I think it's decently balanced) 15:59 salamanders SHMALAMANDER 16:00 not even dangerous just get a bugle 16:00 shambling salamander 16:00 can couatls still drown you in lava? 16:00 yes 16:00 though the message for it should be changed, or that ability should be taken away 16:01 that's probably in vanilla too 16:01 I don't think lava drowning exists in vanilla 16:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1947 (0:13:33) 16:02 really? huh 16:02 couatl over lava Noisytoot? 16:03 dnethack gives orcus an artifact wand of death that can be recharged without a limit, invoked for a death ray, uses the mace skill in melee, drains levels on hit, is bloodthirsty, and evades the grasp of non-chaotics (as all demon lord artifacts) 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:5856 (0:26:58) 16:03 it's also huge, I think that might make it two-handed for a medium-sized player but I'm not sure 16:03 that sounds kind of crazy but if I've learned anything it's probably not that good by dnethack standards 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Ran Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6921 (1:31:40) 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2536 (0:11:28) 16:10 oh sweet. just as i'm talking about it i just ran across an npc w/ death wand! 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Ran Cen Fem Cha), 4733 points, T:4394, killed by an owlbear, while praying 16:12 in dnethack you find enough wands of death anyway and there are more magic-resistant monsters 16:13 i usually have 2 or 3 in evil but sometimes i have to use wishes 16:13 I polypile all the wands i find but this game has been rough 16:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3369 (0:25:36) 16:15 I find wands of death are not that useful in evil, I sometimes use them for rodney and famine but that's it 16:15 Because of the chance of Rodney having an mr cloak 16:15 I dont even bother 16:16 I think it's an amulet 16:16 yes, it's MR amulet 16:16 is it 50%? 16:16 and it's only 25% chance now so wands of death are worth a try 16:16 Oh that's much better 16:16 as an example: after clearing out everything but gehennom, I have 7 wands of death my current notdnethack game 16:17 i use 'em for vorpal Js often 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Splunge's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:3611 (0:19:18) 16:18 just play neutral for vorpal blade 16:18 (vorpal blade clears every artifact anyway) 16:18 I prefer teleportation because it never misses 16:19 I just avoid vorpal jabberwocks and teleport them if they're close 16:19 did you guys know that teleport away spell can be directional at high skill levels? that's ridiculous 16:19 [backscroll] wand of orcus can be wielded by any alignment, but it will blast you regardless of alignment 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a spellbook of cure blindness given to him by Hermes, on T:8354 (0:36:13) 16:19 by design 16:19 Unless your char name is Orcus ;) 16:20 at high skill levels? I thought it was always 16:20 heh 16:20 you can't cast it at low skill levels anyway because it's level 6 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a stone orcish helm on an altar, on T:3852 (0:22:04) 16:20 really? wow 16:20 this whole time, I wrote it off as a dumbass nothing spell 16:21 might as well just make a spell that has the same effect as a wand of death amiright or amiright 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:8612 (0:38:08) 16:21 gimme ogresmasher now 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Ith Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Tymora, on T:34535 (14:53:04) 16:24 did the sysconf changes do something to sparkle? cause I'm always getting the sparkle animation now when I had it disabled 16:24 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:26 yeah 16:26 its set low though 16:26 that shouldnt override player cfg though 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Con Dro Fem Cha), 11 points, T:66, killed by a jackal 16:30 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:31 Altar in the downstairs which leads to big room 16:31 Wonder if I can transport any mobs upstairs to sac 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Ran Cen Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a human zombie, on T:9317 (2:00:27) 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 10665 points, T:5225, killed by a killer bee, while paralyzed by a monster 16:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:25070 (4:11:03) 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:25314 (11:30:05) 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Con Orc Fem Cha), 722 points, T:2040, killed by a hobgoblin 16:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 fixed stone helm of speed named Gustav: Leaf Rap", on T:11836 (0:43:05) 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:14763 (0:47:26) 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 16 points, T:239, killed by an electric shock 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:25614 (11:41:04) 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25615 (11:41:09) 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:959 (0:04:31) 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:15460 (0:50:36) 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1232 (0:07:14) 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a quarterstaff entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:16043 (0:54:30) 16:58 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:59 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 17:01 A barrow wright in sokoban wtf 17:01 they spawn fairly early 17:01 Theyre beastly 17:01 especially with no unihorn 17:02 yeah, fast gnomish wizards with lower AC, higher speed and more deadly melee attacks 17:02 in vanilla they're not so bad 17:02 @?barrow wight 17:02 barrow wight (W) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 5 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Atk: 0d0 weapon level drain, 0d0 cast spell, 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 touch cold | Align: -3 | genocidable, breathless, undead, stalker 17:02 @e?barrow wight 17:02 barrow wight (W) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 5 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Atk: 0d0 weapon level drain, 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 touch cold, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -3 | genocidable, breathless, stalker 17:02 Level drain and stunning are the main problems 17:04 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) refused to give up The Magic Mirror of Merlin to King Arthur, on T:25892 (11:53:02) 17:04 Was followed by a huge parade of soldiers too 17:04 When will this end 17:05 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1355 (0:12:35) 17:05 !lastgame dragonsidedd 17:05 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DragonSidedD/evilhack/dumplog/1698263900.evil.html 17:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Man-at-arms, on T:17333 (1:04:02) 17:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:17351 (1:04:07) 17:07 nope I am not dealing with a -15 AC gnoll cleric 17:09 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 17:09 -!- mercury.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.3 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/16izu25 17:09 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 17:09 -!- K2 has joined #evilhack 17:09 -!- mode/#evilhack [+o K2] by ChanServ 17:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:17773 (1:06:53) 17:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:18269 (1:08:38) 17:16 aw yea 17:17 My warhorse keeps shoving himself down the sokoban traps 17:18 2nd time 17:18 nopet ftw 17:18 Couldnt have lived this with no pet 17:19 3rd time 17:19 he was eating too 17:19 lol 17:20 next turn decided to do his favourite pastime 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a sewer rat corpse, on T:3810 (0:37:36) 17:28 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 17220 points, T:4023, killed by a giant crocodile 17:32 !lastgame 17:32 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/evilhack/dumplog/1698262427.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DragonSidedD/evilhack/dumplog/1698266943.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1698228708.evil.html 17:32 lol dwarf zombies cleared out the whole soko zoo before I even got there 17:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:21185 (1:25:44) 17:33 hellll yes 17:39 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:36657 (15:56:11) 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36661 (15:56:24) 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:21964 (1:32:26) 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:22081 (1:34:28) 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:22082 (1:34:35) 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22544 (1:37:26) 17:48 Even in the end, warhorse wouldnt leave my side to let my dog into final level 17:48 Had to have him say hi 17:48 to a floating eye 17:49 maybe I get 200 turns of good behaviour now xd 17:49 heh 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (black dragons), on T:23264 (1:42:31) 17:51 Looks like a good zoo 17:51 Cockatrice with 3 elves 17:51 hm soldiers 17:51 no sleep res sadge 17:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:12028 (2:09:45) 17:58 Idk how I'll live with no MR, but maybe MC 3 helps with midgame 18:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:25075 (1:52:41) 18:00 argjh that was way too close 18:00 got down to 9 HP 18:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu), 71686 points, T:25099, killed by a silver dragon 18:01 fuck 18:01 Where was the dragon? 18:01 silver dragon got an extra move on me because tortle :( 18:01 wdym where was the dragon 18:01 I havent done healer quest yet 18:01 there's multiple on every healer quest level 18:01 Oh 18:01 Sounds fun 18:01 it is, but I'm still annoyed 18:01 RNG's a bitch for tortle 18:02 ikr 18:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 406 points, T:567, killed by the Goblin King 18:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:03 Maybe that barrow wright is what gave me such an easy zoo 18:03 entered at lvl 8 18:04 instead of 9 18:06 k2 Just checked using F on a web with Sting. It says "you attack thin air" 18:07 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 18:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:09 its if you're in the web if i recall 18:09 Tried that too 18:09 same msg 18:09 i dunno 18:09 i thought evilhack had that thing for sting 18:09 maybe its a 'want to do' but never got around to it 18:10 I'll check again. Maybe there was a monster next to me 18:10 Same msges 18:10 You cant fight yoursel, downwards, upwards 18:10 and you attack thin air whilst in the web 18:18 if you're trapped in a web and are wielding sting, you should just be able to move out of it 18:18 ^ vanilla 18:18 It says sting cuts through the web 18:18 but nothing about removing the web using sting 18:19 only allows you to escape in 1 turn rather than 4 or 5 18:19 true 18:19 Having something like force removing the web suing sting, would solve the problem 18:19 i think xnethack did some special bits with sting and webs 18:20 that's probably what I am remembering 18:20 If you force-fight a web from an adjacent square while wielding a bladed weapon, you attempt to cut it away and destroy it. Success is dependent on your Str and your weapon's enchantment, and there are not any bad failure effects. 18:21 I'll try forcing it whilst adjacent next time I find a web 18:21 rather than inside 18:22 i see... that's 3.7 behavior which got it from xnh 18:22 https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/commit/f07f065f7d63e709841d5e77a1778cf4bcb7eb20 18:22 Imanity have you played a lot of 3.7? 18:23 I think a bit 18:23 Yeah, both my hardfought ascensions were on 3.7 18:23 for vanilla 18:24 gotcha 18:24 so you're used to having that ability from 3.7 and are sad its not in evilhack 18:24 i'd add it but qt said not to or he'll beat me up again 18:24 xD 18:24 I didnt know it was in 3.7. Tend to abandon my pets early on 18:24 do gnomes (player race) have any special powers that I may have missed out on using? 18:24 But in evil, pets seem far more useful 18:25 bouquet no 18:25 Only in hackem do they get a ton of buffs 18:25 I think it's time they got some love. 18:26 They should be able to slip through bars when unencumbered 18:26 they arent THAT small 18:26 I think I've seen a leprechaun do it! 18:28 why is qt anti-Sting-web-cutting? 18:29 i'm not, K2 was just making that up :) 18:29 sit in the corner and read the Hobbit! 18:29 so you believed that qt beat me up but questioned his anti-sting stance? 18:29 smh 18:29 qt orc irl confirmed 18:29 it's not unbelievable, I'm very strong 18:30 * qt flexes his biceps and his shirtsleeves explode theatrically 18:30 xD 18:30 hahahah 18:31 Noisytoot do you have difficulty noticing sarcasm in chat, or are your replied filled with so much dry humor that we're the ones not getting it? 18:31 *replies 18:31 i hope it's the latter 18:32 honestly i don't think that "i'm just making this up" reply was easily distinguishable from a "i'm exaggerating for effect, but qt really is against this and convinced me not to add it" reply 18:32 so I'm on Noisytoot's side here on that interpretation being reasonable 18:33 i thought 'qt will beat me up' was a dead giveaway to it being a joke 18:33 because... well, obviously :) 18:39 it was clearly a joke but I don't think it was clear whether you meant "qt is against this, and I'm joking about the level of his opposition to it extending into physical abuse" or "I'm just giving a random silly justification that I made up on the basis of nothing" 18:40 I am figuring Noisytoot read it that first way, rather than literally as "qt beat me up because he hates that concept" 18:40 anyway nbd either way 18:40 lol 18:40 stop talking about this or I'll beat you up again 18:40 Could be a cultural thing too. Brits are well known for having a dark sense of humour 18:40 :( 18:41 or no humor 18:41 qt is correct 18:41 but i have no idea where Noisytoot is from 18:41 We lose our humor as teeth fall out xD 18:41 ok so Noisytoot didnt quite get it 18:41 that's a shame 18:42 granted, some jokes dont go over as well as in person. lack of voice inflection, body language queues, etc 18:42 qt flexing 18:42 that kind of stuff 18:42 yeah because in person it's no joke 18:42 you'd be terrified 18:43 at my RAW MASS 18:43 hahah 18:43 lol 18:43 OR 18:43 Noisytoot just doesnt find me very funny 18:43 did you consider that qt? 18:44 I suspect not 18:45 honestly I read it the same way as Noisytoot at first, except that I have additional information (I tried very carefully to remember if I ever objected to cutting webs with Sting and decided I hadn't) 18:45 Squeaky boards are bad enough, but webs just seem to give pets a whole host of problems 18:47 magic whistle 18:47 genocide spiders :P 18:47 It's up top rng if you get one 18:48 A leash works too, but those are just as rare 18:48 unless you're a Drow, then get a bunch of pet spiders and trap everything 18:49 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51 Imanity I can add that capability to evilhack 18:51 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 18:51 its now on the to-do 18:51 Thanks :) 18:53 -!- ssnufd has joined #evilhack 18:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2639 (0:26:25) 18:59 Ugh still no way to cross the water to get magic mey 18:59 *key 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:84854 (1 day, 1:05:05) 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:84856 (1 day, 1:05:11) 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 2147 points, T:2849, killed by a dwarf lady 19:14 is there anyway to teleport OUT of vlad's besides EotA? 19:15 like it's says DL 36... but it is treated like another branch? 19:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Ran Cen Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible knnn's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:10066 (2:10:32) 19:15 wow, 2 magic lamps already. I'm ded 19:16 xD 19:16 lol bouquet 19:16 what role are you playing? 19:16 oh nvm i see. sam gia 19:17 i want to play giant next i think. been a while 19:17 i have a pair of titan pets and they are making me jealous at times 19:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law), 165316 points, T:30779, killed by a giant centipede 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2561 (0:26:03) 19:31 the usual 19:32 samurai and wizard are my goto roles. TBH, wizard is probably the easiest to ascend of all the evilhack roles I've ascended. 19:32 but samurai is hella fun, especially with forging. 19:32 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha), 2705 points, T:2789, killed by a piranha 19:40 yeah 19:40 wiz and samurai were my first roles to ever ascend 19:45 I think they were mine too! If you don't count the doppelganger monk in slashem that came earlier 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1999 (0:24:20) 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:7365 (1:17:25) 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] newuser (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 935 points, T:3258, killed by a rock gnome 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Quit: client quit] 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 20:04 ok, orcus (nor other demon princes) will suffer from suppressed health regen when wielding the WoO 20:05 and the WoO cannot be dual wielded with any other artifact, that's just too much 20:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Yeshua's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:9287 (1:36:15) 20:09 *will not 20:09 jeez 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] potato (Arc Trt Fem Law), 50 points, T:124, killed by a newt called murdered 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a dagger entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:13555 (2:05:38) 20:45 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonbane", on T:13922 (2:15:22) 20:48 Have at least one magic lamp. But no MR :/ 20:56 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/c9bc367f1733...73f92970caa4 20:56 [EvilHack] k21971 73f9297 - Some further tweaks to the Wand of Orcus. 21:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:17630 (4:53:13) 21:00 Hermes wants me to melee Cyclops :) 21:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:18395 (5:03:27) 21:28 I mean Giantslayer doesn't suck in Evil by virtue of instakill alone 21:28 Forget if Evil healers get much spear skill by themselves though 21:28 It's basic 21:28 So not even crowning will get me more 21:29 But dipped in all fountains and still no MR 21:29 Prob gonna get zapped by wand of poly soon 21:30 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 21:30 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 21:36 suspicious number of cram rations this game... 21:41 lol 21:42 -!- Umbire is now known as PhantomLumina 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:14883 (2:41:59) 21:44 3 wands of polymorph in the 6 wands ive found this game dannnnng 21:45 0 cram rations. bouquet you got all my cram rations -_- 21:47 K2: probably WoO needs mentioning here: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/73f92970caa405794510ede8fee0b4b6bd6c5ab2/src/uhitm.c#L3934. And "alongside" should be one word, I think. 21:47 alongside is a word confirmed 21:53 Only if youre alongside me UwU 21:54 dammit 21:54 i've been on the "along" alongside "side" side all along 21:56 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 21:57 hmm 21:57 in uhitm.c 22:04 @e?master mind flayer 22:04 master mind flayer (h) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d10 weapon physical, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 tentacle drain int | Align: -8 | genocidable, omnivore, flies, seeinvis, infravis 22:04 What does "your eyesight feels diminished" mean? 22:05 @e?illithid 22:05 illithid (h) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: special | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical, 2d1 tentacle drain int | Align: -8 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 22:05 imanity you lost see invis, maybe? 22:05 But it's such a rare throne effect 22:05 I can lose it to one magic trap? 22:05 yes 22:05 That's kind of troll 22:06 see invisible can be removed by magic traps, but if you got see invis from crowning it can’t be removed 22:06 Guess I gotta be crowned each game then 22:06 you could go without see invisible if you’re like, crazy 22:06 yeah that's not possible 22:07 Your only other option is using perm telepathy like EoTA 22:07 I hate the place invisibility is at balance-wise, for monsters and players 22:07 or keep detect monsters spell up 22:07 Invisibility doesn’t really add anything to the game IMO 22:07 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 22:07 K2 Thoughts on making see invis permanent from thrones? It's such a rare effect and to have it taken away from a magic trap feels like shit 22:08 YANI: if you sit on a throne there’s a chance you get crowned 22:08 thrones do grant permanent see invis 22:08 I just got mine taken away from magic trap 22:08 you could have gotten the temp version 22:08 It says your vision seems crystal clear 22:08 on throne 22:08 a while ago 22:08 it lasted about 10-15k turns 22:09 until this magic trap 22:09 ah yep that's permanent 22:09 and magic traps can remove it just like that? 22:09 well then crowning see invis isn't permanent either because they are exactly the same 22:10 is it for sure lost? 22:10 It gave the message "your eyesight feels diminished" 22:10 but can you actually not see invisible anymore 22:10 that might be something else maybe I’m tweaking 22:11 I can't check until lategame, when mobs will start turning invis 22:11 no make invis wands or anything? 22:11 or until I find a wand of make invis 22:11 not yet 22:11 step on the trap until you turn invisible 22:11 feels diminished means you just lost see invis 22:11 Seems like a pretty important thing to be able to be lost from magic trap 22:11 and i have no plans to change current invis/see invis behavior 22:12 yeah, it is 22:12 welcome to evilhack :) 22:12 I’m fine with it being stolen from magic trap but I thought the crowning version couldn’t be 22:12 magic trap can give it back 22:12 fyi 22:12 oh nevermind, i see where crowning gets permanent 22:12 it can take/give both invis and see invis 22:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:13 I'm level 11. Cube or air elemental can spawn and will die 22:13 yeah crowning grants perm see invis, and that cant be taken 22:18 terrapin how's this - https://termbin.com/4dk8 22:19 need to add a comment in uhitm 22:25 yeah looks good to me 22:25 so if you've been crowned, you can't lose that see invisible to a trap? 22:25 rebatela correct 22:26 ok. got crowned a while back. thanks 22:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:19811 (3:24:21) 22:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2214 (0:12:16) 22:29 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/73f92970caa4...24e83935bb64 22:29 [EvilHack] k21971 24e8393 - Clean up some issues from last commit (Wand of Orcus). 22:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a glass heavy mace entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:20868 (6:24:14) 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2678 (0:18:34) 22:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1044 (0:04:34) 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 433 points, T:1150, zombified by a kobold zombie, while helpless 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Ran Cen Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:13734 (3:15:51) 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 3028 points, T:3224, quit 22:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 22:48 22:13 I'm level 11. Cube or air elemental can spawn and will die 22:48 tortles get intrinsic warning at level 5 22:48 It'll spawn right next to me 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1079 (0:07:19) 22:48 if I'm using magic trap 22:49 ah, I see 22:50 well there's no reason to do that anymore anyway (if there was a good reason to begin with, even) 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1186 (0:08:29) 22:50 Trying to get back invis, but not worth the risk of dying 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1713 points, T:1205, killed by a piranha 22:52 there's a very low chance you get a monster that can kill you 22:52 That chance isnt worth taking 22:53 cmon live a little :) 22:53 I'm level 12 and dont even have any ability to get the magic chest key xD 22:53 I wont be living for long that's for sure 22:53 wdym you can literally just swim to it 22:53 Oh yeah 22:54 Forget I'm a tortle sometimes 22:54 one of the only perks of being tortle 22:54 Yep 22:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22761 (3:53:44) 22:56 Imanity: I'm lvl 13 and I can't get to the magic key either. 22:56 there is one at mines end you know 22:56 Polytrap 22:56 imanity, 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22761 (3:53:44) 22:57 just dig down on the marked square 22:57 failing that, you're giant, just use boulders to cross to the far island on gollum's 22:58 I mean the mines end one 22:58 I'll swim to goblin island 22:59 I was talking to bouquet about mines end 22:59 Ah 23:00 ughh "you hear a low groaning" 23:00 then you realise its coming from you 23:01 cause playing tortle xD 23:01 hahaha 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 78 points, T:507, killed by a fox 23:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:22067 (6:55:09) 23:03 The innate regen is kinda nice 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a mace entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:2093 (0:05:36) 23:04 yeah it's alright 23:06 I wonder if the weapon familiarity thing was inspired by brogue 23:06 that has pretty much the same mechanic 23:07 might've got it from somewhere else, though 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4375 (0:11:36) 23:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:5434 (0:16:33) 23:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6046 (0:19:44) 23:18 damn. crazy shooting in Maine 23:18 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19 really, Loggers_VIII? What is the marked square marked with? 23:19 bouquet, it'll be engraved with something like "x" 23:19 Yeah rebatela :/ 23:20 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 23:21 there's been so many shootings in the US that now when I hear about one, I barely even feel anything about it and I think that's a pretty good reason for gun control in and of itself 23:22 is it randomly placed on the level or always in the same spot? 23:22 random 23:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a mace entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:6740 (0:24:51) 23:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a steel dagger entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:23513 (4:00:49) 23:23 you already gave me that, hermes 23:24 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:24 Likewise Loggers_VIII 23:24 The only other option is to constantly be afraid of being a victim in a mass shooting, and that's not healthy either 23:25 yeah, it's fucked up 23:26 the engraving was "do not dig here" 23:26 lol 23:27 I knew there were others but I didn't know what they were 23:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:24304 (7:23:10) 23:31 hahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha tortles can fall down trapdoors into water roflmao 23:31 Did your items get wet? 23:32 I lost all my scrolls spellbooks and potions :( 23:32 Damn 23:32 water should not be considered a safe spot for tortles 23:32 I don't care if it doesn't KILL them 23:32 agreed 23:32 it kills the player's will to live xD 23:33 yeah :P 23:34 [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 167 points, T:639, killed by a large mimic 23:35 didn't have an oilskin sack huh? 23:36 nah 23:36 only 1/4 chance to start with one, unfortunately 23:36 honestly I think you could make it guaranteed and it wouldn't upset the balance of the game much 23:38 also, just throwing this out there; in d&d tortles can't breathe underwater, they just can hold their breath for an exceptionally long time. so if we're gonna be totally accurate to the source material, tortles shouldn't care too much about suffocation attacks from cubes and the like 23:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:39 "The dragon digests you" 23:39 "It feels comforting" 23:41 Youre kidding me 23:41 One giant zombie bite 23:41 and I lose all spell knowledge 23:41 i hate that shit 23:41 i always play monk too and I'll lose my spells AND go back to basic in martial arts 23:41 which can be a death sentence if i'm deep in the dungeon 23:42 One more reason to polymorph into an illithid ig 23:42 it's easy to get overconfident around them (the zombies) and then boom 23:42 doesn't happen often, but totally can suck when it does 23:42 Tortles are too slow, the zombies catch up to you 23:42 and if you get cut off in a hallway with a high hp zombie behind 23:43 you will lose skills, knowledge 23:43 all of it 23:43 yeah I tried tortle a little bit. wasn't really for me 23:43 i love giants though 23:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 62870 points, T:25346, killed by a warhorse, while paralyzed by a monster 23:47 Dont even know how I became paralyzed 23:47 One turn 100 hp, next turn 0 23:53 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:27182 (4:30:42) 23:54 On hill orc shamans can cast paralyze 23:54 and ofc MR reduces its turn to 1 23:59 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3129 (0:44:04)