00:12 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 00:22 Which pet dragons are best? 00:23 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29 !tell xdminsy If you don't genocide them, black dragons are probably near the top. 00:29 I'm on it, Umbire. 00:33 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 00:36 Okay, I laid some silver dragon eggs. 00:36 xdminsy: Message from Umbire at 2023-10-23 00:29 EDT: If you don't genocide them, black dragons are probably near the top. 00:36 Any dragon pet is good enough, frankly. 00:36 I have no reflection, I'm afraid that black dragon breath may destroy my comr. 00:37 I remember one game before my pet shadow dragon breath at wall and reflecte at me and drained me. 00:39 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:41 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 00:43 My network seems somewhat breaking today. 00:45 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:49 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:45740 (7:53:04) 00:50 I hate variants with no magic chests :( 00:50 Evilhack has spoiled me lol 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3202 (0:28:29) 00:57 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 00:57 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 00:58 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 00:59 I like magic chest too. 00:59 Otherwise I'll eagerly want a bag of holding. 01:00 Mine isnt even blessed. Life sucks rn 01:03 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:06 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 01:11 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:16 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 01:17 What, Izchak the Archangel... 01:18 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:18 Yeah dont kill him :) 01:18 Unless youre prepared to deal with an archangel level threat 01:25 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 01:25 Yes I just want my dragon pet to steal the magic lamp out. 01:26 But then when my pet attack izchak, I found that he has a shield of reflection that attract me :P 01:26 Dragons are way stronger than shopkeepers 01:26 auto attack instead of steal 01:27 Izchak has CPM too 01:27 I believe 01:27 Yes, I want his armors so let pets continue the dirty work :P 01:27 Are you sure they wont just die? 01:28 an archangel is typically only found on the astral plane 01:28 I would get them out whilst still alive 01:28 No, seems they are hurt and don't attack the archangel. 01:28 Hes too high a level now 01:28 Way too high 01:28 I think the problem I died before is that I always go without pets. 01:29 I think pets really helps a lot in evilhack. 01:29 Aye. especially if you can start with early wand of polymorph 01:29 And they can help deal with polytrap. 01:29 I wish pet AI was better tho 01:30 Wasting hundreds of turns each level sometimes 01:30 and it sucks 01:30 Yes, this game I have 2 magic whistles. 01:30 I hardly carry pets in vanilla after I got -10 AC maybe. 01:31 I think I'd better adopt pet using in evilhack. 01:31 I think pseudodragon is the only worth pet to keep in evilhack 01:31 Dog and cat cant even solo goblin king at max level 01:31 Other than a polymorphed one ofc 01:31 Lol yes, those are weak, I mean late game pets. 01:32 Aye 01:32 The engulf gang 01:33 Accidentally my pets kill the priest. 01:33 Dragons will do that 01:33 Gotta body block them and close the door 01:34 I'm not sure, I think I close the door, maybe my ice salamander open the door. 01:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 8698 points, T:8108, killed by a Green-elf 01:39 Ideally lock it 01:39 even if just buying protection 01:41 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1649 (0:17:04) 01:41 Yes I could have buy once or twice protection buy neigh. 01:41 But I'm already -20 AC, not so important now. 01:41 2-4 points is pretty substantial 01:43 I think so, may buy some later if I can find some temple. 01:43 Not the end of the world tho 01:52 I was on -7 AC. 01:53 D'oh. 01:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 361969 points, T:25590, killed by a white dragon, while fainted from lack of food 01:53 I had eaten fairly recently, too. 01:53 Ah that AC I think maybe can't afford me to do sokoban or minetown. 01:54 Oh you can definitely do soko or minetown at that AC. 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Gia Mal Law), 4781 points, T:2768, killed by a bolt of fire, while frozen by a potion 01:56 Arahael Maybe should make hungry and weak status effects color coded 01:57 I miss it pretty often too 01:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 01:59 Yeah. 01:59 I alreayd have it set: MSGTYPE=stop "You are beginning to feel weak." 02:00 Color coding is more consistent 02:00 You can easily click by that in the heat of battle 02:00 What config do you use for weak/hungry? 02:00 (And fainting!) 02:01 I havent set mine up yet 02:01 Just spectated many who have 02:02 I just use red&bold. 02:03 Copied from somewhere. 02:03 I'll prob copy the hp colours I have 02:03 green: Satiated, orange: hungry, red: Weak 02:03 I am starting to wonder what the actual range of the advanced fireball spell is. I just killed a drow raider in a completely different room. 02:04 Anything you can see 02:04 yeah, but what does "see" mean 02:04 I blindfolded myself 02:04 You can see them by telepathy. 02:04 You see it with telepathy 02:04 So long as there's a clear line of sight between you 02:05 ie no walls 02:05 it will hit 02:05 Maybe there's some range of like 10 squares 02:05 "I just killed a drow raider in a completely different room." 02:05 How far away was he? 02:05 You can use $ to check the range of a given spell. 02:05 Imanity, at least one room away, evidently. 02:05 Ik, but rooms vary in size 02:05 I've seen ones which are 4 squares across 02:06 this is a new level, I just starting blasting as an experiment 02:06 Works nicely. Using yello for hungry, and red for weak/fainting/fainted. 02:07 ok, it was only 8 squares... 02:07 next one... 02:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 168 points, T:1268, killed by a coyote, while fainted from lack of food 02:07 ^^ Testing. :) 02:07 Looks like it doesn't do bold type on my terminal, but i get decent colours at least. 02:07 Imanity: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Status_hilites 02:08 Ty 02:08 Will copy some of those 02:08 Eg, OPTIONS=hilite_status: hunger/2/yellow/normal 02:08 "The spell dissipates over the distance!" (39 squares) 02:08 woah 02:08 ok, learning... 02:09 So in theory you could clear Vecna's throne room from one spot 02:09 I notice the config file elsewhere uses & instead of / for that last separator, maybe evilhack is different there. 02:09 * arahael can't remember where he got his config from. 02:10 Imanity just to avoid misunderstanding, it didn't work from 39 squares away :-) 02:10 Ye, but still up to 39 squares 02:10 is pretty good 02:10 Even if it's only 16 02:11 I don't know what the max range is yet 02:11 ah 02:12 ah "The location is no more than 10 squares away." 02:12 RTFM :-) 02:12 xD 02:12 10 squares isnt bad 02:12 A lot better than 3, which is what I thought until a couple weeks ago 02:16 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Dwa Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:1569 (0:12:34) 02:22 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1899 (0:19:04) 02:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:19354 (4:21:31) 02:26 also wiki: "You must be able to see the chosen square normally (i.e. it must be lit and in line of sight)." 02:26 I wonder if that is true 02:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fireproof Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:19365 (4:22:27) 02:33 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Dwa Mal Law) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:2721 (0:29:31) 02:41 In fairness I'm not sure how long ago the last update was, and I've not touched it due to lack of specific knowledge on the spell mechanics myself. 02:48 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Dwa Mal Law) had 18 shuriken entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:2968 (0:45:06) 02:53 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Dwa Mal Law) had 17 steel shuriken entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:3241 (0:49:10) 02:57 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:725 (0:02:48) 02:58 Imanity: Coloured hunger status is excellent! 02:59 Nice 02:59 I'll make the change after I get depression at the lack of a tinkerer 02:59 Still holding out hope 03:00 tinkerer? 03:01 hackem shopkeeper which allows you to upgrade your items 03:02 Hmm, just noticed I went straight from 'not hungry' to 'weak' just now. 03:03 Are you having 3 lines or 2 for status effects> 03:03 *? 03:03 2. 03:03 Change to 3 03:03 No, 3. 03:03 Yeah, it's 3. 03:03 Hmm 03:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1384 (0:08:26) 03:06 Gnomes have the tinker technique in SLASH'EM, and gnome shopkeepers can have tinkering as a service. 03:06 What's "tinker"? 03:07 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Hack%27EM#Upgrading_and_tinkering 03:07 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Tinker I think this would summarize things a bit better. 03:07 ye 03:08 Basically gnomes have a means of more directly upgrading items where other races would, say, have to use a bunch of gain level. 03:08 Interesting. Speaking of gain level... Can you do that in evilhack too!? 03:09 No 03:09 Was worth an ask. :) 03:10 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Dwa Mal Law) had 19 shuriken entrusted to him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:4164 (1:06:37) 03:11 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4052 points, T:2202, burned by a fireball 03:11 I really detest those gnomish wizards. 03:13 They either burn your flesh or burn your items and will to live :) 03:14 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 8567 points, T:4511, killed by an orc shaman, while frozen by a monster's gaze 03:14 Or stunlock you, yeah. 03:15 Seriously, teh most dangerious early-game monster. 03:22 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:54965 (10:20:49) 03:25 -!- Imanity has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had an adamantine shield of mobility entrusted to her by Odin, on T:23555 (5:21:40) 03:27 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 03:27 -!- Imanity has quit [Client Quit] 03:34 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 03:46 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:03 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 04:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:25848 (6:04:05) 04:19 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:59780 (11:17:10) 04:44 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:04 for advanced fireball calculation, it looks like there is path calculation going on that checks for walls and closed doors. but not boulders. 05:21 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:29 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 07:01 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1949 points, T:1918, killed by a wolf 07:57 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:66080 (2 days, 19:48:50) 08:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:12 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 08:31 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:60506 (11:50:32) 08:33 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:60754 (11:51:52) 08:40 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:66755 (2 days, 20:36:29) 08:53 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:5835 (2:26:57) 09:10 Is there only stone helm of speed now? 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:6840 (2:47:55) 09:15 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:61469 (12:33:35) 09:17 helm of speed is metallic by default (metal/steel) 09:17 it can be any of the metals (save adamantium), wood, bone, stone 09:18 even glass I think? 09:18 yes that too 09:18 No adamantium now? 09:18 Okay. 09:18 it never could be adamantium i dont think 09:18 lemme check 09:19 if i recall, the only non-drow items that could be adamantine were amulets, certain shields and dwarven objects 09:19 I see. 09:20 yup my statement is correct 09:20 (see mkobj.c) 09:23 I remember have seen some talk about adamantine helm of speed before. 09:23 But searched irclog found only stone helm of speed were been wished. 09:23 Lol. 09:23 Thx k2. 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of dark elven gloves entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:62470 (12:44:35) 09:29 ooh nice 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 868 points, T:1718, killed by a coyote 09:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:3572 (0:21:59) 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Lolth, on T:65112 (13:20:14) 10:04 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7271 (3:38:57) 10:09 xdminsy at the risk of jinxing you - game looks like it's going well? 10:09 I think maybe yes, but I wanted to pray for more hp. 10:10 Incidentally crowned. 10:10 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:11 and received stormbringer i hope 10:11 Yes, I'm now using Angelslayer. 10:12 \o/ 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:66665 (13:42:34) 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:66741 (13:44:50) 10:28 G. 10:28 F 10:28 H 10:28 mobileuser you went backwards 10:28 I hate that A letter lol. 10:28 :( 10:33 Not so bad, just a normal bag of holding, seems only potions are gone. 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7831 (4:09:25) 10:37 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 10:52 Sadly realize that marker is plastic. 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:68110 (14:18:59) 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 19 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2169 (0:11:58) 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 14 mithril shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:2326 (0:12:54) 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2710 (0:15:02) 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Rog Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2671 (0:49:39) 11:13 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2896 (0:16:59) 11:16 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:16 xdminsy yeah anything breakable will be destroyed along with the bag and the obj placed into the bag to make it blow up. otherwise everything else is scattered 11:16 it's too bad EvilHack doesn't have the 3.7 #loot A filter, it's actually useful 11:16 :/ 11:17 because it's a modifier of other selected filters instead of just overriding everything 11:17 grunthack, everything scatters, but throughout the entire dungeon 11:17 lol K2 that's obnoxious but I guess better than flat-out deletion 11:17 yeah it is obnoxious 11:17 I was reading about that change in grunthack K2. It looks brutal 11:18 Imanity your comment about no dragonhide helms in evilhack, that's not true 11:18 They're still there? 11:18 helms of speed reverted back to being metallic/rigid material 11:18 Oh only helms of speed 11:18 unfortunate that you can't put the amulet of yendor in bags, or that could be used to skip part of the ascension run 11:18 but other cloth based helms can certainly be dragonhide 11:18 Nice 11:22 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Kni Cen Fem Cha), 17950 points, T:8461, killed by a piranha 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:70637 (16:06:11) 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:69337 (14:51:35) 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:111527 (1 day, 12:12:38) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:70244 (15:06:42) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:70246 (15:06:47) 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) refused to give up The Striped Shirt of Liberation to Robert the Lifer, on T:70566 (15:09:40) 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Robert the Lifer, on T:70568 (15:09:49) 11:59 k2, you probably had a lot of junk waiting for you when you got back -- speaking of blowing up bags, did you see me super-simple suggestion for a key change to A)? 12:01 i vaguely remember that 12:01 it'd prob be best to implement how 3.7 does it, hopefully they didn't fundementally change how that works 12:02 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:04 what was your suggestion krm26? 12:05 my senile memory says it was changing A) auto select to +) auto select 12:06 + is already used for spellbooks 12:06 so that wouldn't work 12:06 Well then \ 12:06 doesn't really matter what, some non-inventory key 12:07 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 12:07 or _, even better, shifted non-inventory key 12:07 yeah that would reduce mistakes 12:07 my idea post 3.7 changes (so it is a filter rather than an override) was to just require A + a 12:07 it would reduce 100% of my bag explosions from the past two years except for the one magicbane one :-) 12:08 so A on its own does nothing, it only autoselects everything if you use it in combination with a 12:08 2FA 12:08 :P 12:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 1793 points, T:2812, killed by a white unicorn 12:10 _ is also used for iron chains 12:10 but I think \ is unused in evilhack 12:11 make it configurable 12:11 hmm, do cursed magic keys break on use 12:11 ? 12:12 no 12:12 they are immune to cursed breakage 12:12 since they dont spawn randomly and are rare, made sense to not have them break from a mundane task 12:13 darn 12:13 what would make more sense, is that they just dont work at all if cursed :P 12:14 Or maybe have a chance not to work 12:14 If holy water is in stash, you can keep trying 12:15 supposing the key gets cursed 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:71993 (15:32:01) 12:15 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:16 destory the magic chest (just that location) 12:16 xD 12:16 bwahah 12:16 OR, they magically enter the magic chest, leaving it locked 12:16 The key gets to continue the player's adventures 12:18 actually, could leave magic chest behavior unchanged, but cursed magic keys used on OTHER chests f them up in some way, blows up doors, etc 12:18 that sounds good 12:18 do magic keys open crystal chests? i assume not 12:19 No 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:28293 (6:59:18) 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:71562 (16:35:12) 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:112246 (1 day, 12:53:38) 12:26 that was a near thing as a fragile non-acid resistant tortle 12:27 What are you wearing instead of alchemy smock? 12:28 tortle 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:3102 (0:22:31) 12:28 Oh 12:28 you can wear two things: jack and shit 12:28 So a shell xD 12:28 sorry, i mean, helm and gloves 12:29 Yes I have depression from tort healer's lack of armor 12:29 and i had previously purified my dragonbane 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4232 (0:33:04) 12:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:14516 (4:02:39) 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dirge", on T:4265 (0:34:28) 12:40 How does Splunge always get a wish from goblin king throne xd 12:41 I want his luck 12:47 Maybe as more game as you start. 12:48 Swear he just got one yesterday lol 12:49 Was discussing Dirge with k2 12:50 ... DIRGE 12:50 \o/ 12:50 xD 12:50 Is dirge *2 damage? 12:50 Yes 12:50 to non acid resist 12:50 +1d10 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:4843 (0:40:14) 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:73743 (16:08:19) 12:52 Then I think grayswandir is better :P 12:53 I think I need to farm until Dragonbane was gifted. 12:53 I laid 9 silver dragons but only one left, and no scales. 12:53 I think you needed to keep dragonbane on until dealing with Kathyrn 12:53 Oh you didnt have 12:53 Yeah farm until gifted 12:54 dragon pets never drop scales, i think 12:54 can always hang out in the ice queen's realm for hostile silver dragons though 12:54 What about former pets? 12:54 no scales 12:54 If you leave them on another level until they go ferla 12:54 Well I don't know that. 12:55 Huh. Guess thats fair 12:55 Would be too easy to get scales 12:55 oh actually i think feral ones might drop them 12:55 I'm not sure if I can handle first two levels in ice realm. 12:56 The convict quest is such a safe place to farm and those giant beetles seems gurantee to drop corpse. 12:56 giant beetles are one of life's great mysteries 12:56 But the walls is annoying that block those enemies way. 12:57 they are large but somehow also only give 10 nutrition? i guess most of the corpse is chitin or something 12:57 Can't you poly into the dragon you want, lay eggs, funnel exp until they grow up and abandon them on another level? 12:57 Returning when theyre feral and killing for basically guaranteed scale chance due to how many eggs you've layed 12:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:15364 (4:20:22) 12:58 I'm so nervous about my 90 hp in evilhack. 12:58 No dealing with castle dragon rng 12:58 In vanilla I would think I'm already okay. 12:58 Nurse dance 12:58 before ice realm 12:59 Haven't go medusa's island now. 12:59 I'm afraid that I may forget to blind myself and get stoned. 12:59 Imanity yes, it seems like abandoning them is a valid strategy 13:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le6FwBypMrA 13:00 well that pegasi didn't even get off the level before a dragon spawned next to it and gulped it right up 13:01 A feathery treat 13:02 I think the problem is that I haven't farm for a wihle. 13:02 That I actually collected some mirrors but still accidentally crowned. 13:02 Eat lizard corpses before encounter 13:02 One pray for max hp can give 5 points, I think it's great. 13:02 they last like 10 turns 13:06 Okay, then can I melee medusa? 13:06 If combat lasts less time than a lizard corpse gives immunity for 13:06 If pets eat lizard corpse, will them have temporal stone resistance. 13:06 or you can just eat another before you get fully stoned 13:06 no this is a 3.7 thing 13:06 eating a lizard corpse does not give you temp stone res in 3.6 13:07 Oh, it's not in evilhack? 13:07 no it is not 13:07 sadge 13:07 Maybe hang around medusa's lair with reflection then 13:07 3 squares away, kiting from snakes each time they get too close 13:07 hence the dragonbane sacfest 13:08 ye 13:08 what class? 13:08 !whereis xdminsy 13:08 terrapin: [hdf-us] xdminsy [evil]: (Con Dro Fem Cha) T:75159 The Dungeons of Doom level: 14 13:09 still at it with con dro; wow! 13:09 Actually I have 126 +7 darts lol, I think I can beat medusa without reflection. 13:09 yeah i was gonna say, just dartstorm or daggerstorm her 13:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:10 fast, blind, flying, ranged works fine without reflection 13:11 Okay, I'd be careful. 13:12 I blowed my unholy water, otherwise I can now nurse dance. 13:12 And one marker was gone too. 13:12 :P 13:14 terappin cuz it's my most familiar combo in evilhack. 13:14 And I'm still fairly unskilled, need more practice :P 13:16 "unskilled" my eye 13:16 i bet if you played anything other than con dro you'd ascend first try :P 13:16 :) 13:17 Lol really. 13:18 1st evilhack asc should be centaur knight 13:19 Luckily I got a bag of holding from player monster. 13:19 Pet dragon is really useful that engulf everything. 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:113461 (1 day, 13:47:45) 13:21 feed your pet dragon the valley wraiths. a level 49 yellow dragon that has been fed a snark and wearing polished barding is pretty epic (until he steps on a poly trap next turn) 13:21 high level dragons will happily swallow rodney for you 13:22 For stoning resistance? 13:22 I see, maybe beholders threat. 13:23 personally i prefer gray dragons; you can't genocide wands of polymorph 13:24 gray dragons work great is you genocide basilisks, beholders, and *trices 13:25 unless you're a wizard 13:25 Okay, I may carry some pets. 13:25