00:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 354 points, T:545, poisoned by a rotted elf corpse 00:40 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 503 points, T:529, killed by the Goblin King 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3346 (0:31:39) 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a monkey corpse on an altar of Odin, on T:4377 (0:45:38) 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Arc Trt Mal Law), 962 points, T:1473, killed by a spear trap 01:14 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Arc Hob Mal Law), 127 points, T:320, killed by a fox 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:4774 (0:50:39) 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1347 (0:07:02) 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1533 (0:09:10) 01:49 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Arc Hob Fem Law), 2318 points, T:2000, killed by the Goblin King 01:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:5433 (0:48:17) 02:08 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:12 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:39317 (1 day, 8:49:48) 02:17 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1706 (0:26:28) 02:21 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2043 (0:29:59) 02:22 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 2532 points, T:2090, killed by a piranha 03:01 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:02 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:15261 (3:30:20) 03:13 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 03:14 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 03:14 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:15 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Rog Dro Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "m", on T:3923 (0:41:38) 03:15 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3239 (0:39:15) 03:17 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) consumed animal products (pancake) for the first time, on T:3342 (0:41:11) 03:21 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a Mordor orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3540 (0:44:44) 03:21 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) had 16 steel shuriken entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:3547 (0:44:55) 03:22 what! pancake is animal!!!!!!! 03:22 pancakes are made with dairy 03:23 and eggs 03:23 damn, never had pancakes. I think I did this in a previous monk run too. 03:24 I mean it's not TOO big a deal considering you're expected to maintain at least vegetarian conduct 03:26 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 03:27 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5202 (0:54:30) 03:32 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of dark elven gloves entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:3792 (0:55:52) 03:37 Oh, only cursed magic lamps give off darkness. TIL. for some reason I thought all cursed lamps give of darkness. 03:40 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:19490 (4:08:20) 03:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 47424 points, T:19802, killed by an earth elemental 04:08 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Rog Dro Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:8198 (1:35:33) 04:18 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5576 (1:41:24) 04:26 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 6779 points, T:9245, killed by Ms. Hebiwerie; the shopkeeper 04:27 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 04:31 !who 04:31 xdminsy: [hdf-us] k3ut0i [evil] tinklebear [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 04:52 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:7536 (2:15:27) 04:59 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 05:01 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:8427 (2:24:31) 05:11 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:9069 (2:35:05) 05:15 -!- chao is now known as stenno 05:34 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:35 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 05:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products (cream pie) for the first time, on T:3992 (4:09:08) 05:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 10773 points, T:4625, killed by a tortle shaman, while paralyzed by a monster 05:55 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:56 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 06:11 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:11 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:14 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:15 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 06:27 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:38 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:38 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:55 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:59 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 06:59 Just asked a GPT chat program of tips for playing nethack. One of them was to "save often". 07:01 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:11469 (4:23:29) 07:01 Lol 07:03 Chat GPT save scummer confirmed xD 07:03 a wood golem dropped wooden gauntlets of power \o/ 07:04 nice 07:10 "Don't choose a character who's going to die. Choose one who's going to live." 07:14 so we should play in wizard mode :) 07:23 -!- imanity has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:29 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:47 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:9094 (1:48:56) 08:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a copper helmet entrusted to her by Odin, on T:9373 (1:55:21) 08:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:9757 (2:02:03) 08:12 save often is a good idea even if you don't save scum, because crashes are possible 08:56 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.0.5] 08:58 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 09:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed spenceshady's ghost, the former Adept, on T:18716 (5:47:18) 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 79053 points, T:18767, killed by a flind 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:92661 (1 day, 3:47:41) 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven cloak entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:13584 (5:13:03) 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) had an alchemy smock entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:14418 (5:28:15) 09:37 wooo 09:43 sir bedivere knew what was up 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Ran Elf Fem Neu), 375 points, T:1404, killed by a large spider 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of silver gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:15294 (5:40:24) 09:50 that the earth is shaped like a banana? 09:51 a flat banana 09:51 and gdamn k3ut0i that is like the best gift ever for a monk 09:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:54 krm26: I remember Sir Bedevere wearing an apron in the monty python movie... 09:55 ...but now that I look for a clip to substantiate this, he's just wearing the same sort of smock all of Arthur's knights wear 09:55 a surcoat 09:56 a mot juste 09:56 it's a good gift. A wood golem already dropped a wooden GoP too :) 09:56 still waiting for my wood golem in a wood wand of wishing game 09:56 do sea dragons spawn on land? 09:56 yes 09:57 they prefer water but can travel on land fine 09:57 u c d D? i c d D 09:58 Steig shoulda written a book about nethack 09:58 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:94662 (1 day, 4:40:59) 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:16089 (5:53:17) 10:01 who is steig, krm26? 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9966 (1:17:07) 10:04 damn shambling drained my martial arts. faaaak 10:04 https://www.amazon.com/C-D-B-William-Steig/dp/0671666894 10:06 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a steel dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:11328 (1:25:34) 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] baretale (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:40910 (6:23:14) 10:12 I see. he wrote Sylvester and the Magic Pebble 10:13 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:95637 (1 day, 4:55:41) 10:17 and apropos of my blathering, C D B ! 10:22 * tinklebear now Cs 10:25 that book kinda prefigured texting :-) 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] baretale (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 285447 points, T:41381, killed by an air elemental 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:14884 (1:54:29) 10:46 true rumor: "Croesus is a gold miner who likes to spread the wealth around" 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:16836 (2:09:30) 11:03 does 'eyes of the overworld' protect from beholder(Tal'Gath) gazes? wiki says only medusa will be a problem. 11:07 i bet it doesn't protect from tal'gath, but have no first-hand knowledge 11:10 they do protect you 11:11 (mostly) 11:11 the really bad gazes still do a bit of physical damage 11:12 petrifying does physical damage? 11:12 yeah 11:13 personally i blindfolded against tal'gath as a monk because the fight is pretty long and the damage can add up 11:14 kidney stones 11:15 lol 11:19 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3472 (0:16:45) 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:3479 (0:16:59) 11:22 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) had a pair of iron tekko entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:98328 (1 day, 6:05:00) 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +0 bone orcish helm on an altar, on T:4186 (0:21:54) 11:37 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 14469 points, T:6050, killed by a giant leech 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a mumak, on T:20194 (2:33:24) 11:53 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:12 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a pair of cloth gloves entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:23258 (2:51:53) 12:21 shit 12:21 i've got a game crash from Grouchy, they didnt report it 12:22 i noticed the crash had happened while i was away, i had to do a manual recover from backup. he tried to load it yesterday and it immediately crashed 12:23 https://termbin.com/oigel 12:23 i dunno exactly what lead up to it 12:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Pri Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3152 (0:32:33) 12:26 looks like maybe trying to free up a monster steed that was already freed? 12:26 not sure 12:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Pri Gia Mal Cha), 1933 points, T:3152, killed by a bolt of cold 12:42 what did the prerecover crash look like? 12:45 no idea 12:45 it happened while i was away, coredumpctl purges entries after a few days 12:46 oct 8th was the initial 12:46 i'd need to search grouchy's ttyrecs 12:46 hdf-us 12:48 damn he was in rodney's tower 12:49 not the same place as Loggers's crash though 12:49 dunno yet 12:49 watching it 12:53 ugh 12:53 so he was playing, was on rodney middle level, saved his game - https://www.hardfought.org/nh/evil/trd-us/?file=https://hdf-us.s3.amazonaws.com/ttyrec/G/Grouchy/evilhack/ttyrec/2023-10-09.02:38:50.ttyrec.gz 12:53 when he came back to play, it crashed on load 12:54 crash is what I posted earlier (termbin) 12:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Gia Mal Cha), 662 points, T:2339, poisoned by a gnome zombie 12:55 looks to be one monster riding something (player monster knight most likely) 12:55 yeah 12:55 brb 13:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 15293 points, T:6951, zombified by an orc zombie, while praying 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) had 19 silver shuriken entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:18401 (7:16:38) 13:13 back 13:14 ugh 13:14 i wonder if this can be recreated, that would go a long way 13:14 it looks to me like the NPC was a replacement for a genocided lich? 13:15 idk why that would matter though 13:16 hmm no. in a .des file if you specify and its been genocided before the map load, then nothing generates in that spot 13:16 (or if is a unique and it's been killed prior) 13:17 oh huh 13:17 i guess i'm thinking of the planes or something 13:17 huh so player monster isn't hard coded there. but apprentices are 13:18 but not at the spot where I saw a @ highlighted 13:18 I thought it would get replaced by a similar monster 13:18 at least that's what I think I saw in hackem 13:19 i dont believe that's how that works. lets say for this: MONSTER:'L',$place[3],hostile 13:19 if only liches were geno'd, the other 3 types would be picked 13:19 if all L are geno'd, then nothing forms there 13:20 the @ highlighted (riding a steed) was a ranom spawn in Grouchy's game 13:20 *random 13:20 see https://www.hardfought.org/nh/evil/trd-us/?file=https://hdf-us.s3.amazonaws.com/ttyrec/G/Grouchy/evilhack/ttyrec/2023-10-09.02:38:50.ttyrec.gz at frame 1093 13:21 shit 13:21 i hate the hard bugs to figure out, not even sure if this can reliably be recreated 13:26 well it looks like a random monster is created, but it's the drider in Grouchy's case 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) had Dramborleg bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:101347 (1 day, 6:44:10) 13:30 hmmm 13:30 hadn't given it much thought but mr without necklace... 13:30 a lawful tortle's dream! 13:31 then i CAN FLY 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:19680 (7:38:29) 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:6619 (1:07:53) 13:37 terrapin how could it be the drider? they cant be ridden 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) had 15 mithril shuriken entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:19787 (7:43:37) 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Nightsorrow the human zombie, and former Ninja, on T:6947 (1:13:03) 13:39 !lastgame Nightsorrow 13:39 rebatela: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nightsorrow/evilhack/dumplog/1697745945.evil.html 13:41 the unridden drider in the bottom middle is the lich's replacement; the NPC is a random gen as you said 13:42 ok 13:42 but yeah driders cant be ridden 13:42 at least, not supposed to be 13:43 yeah. i was just saying that replacements do happen, but i don't think it was related to the NPC or crash 13:44 hmm shit 13:45 can_saddle doesnt include drider 13:45 oh wait 13:45 reading that backwards 13:45 we're fine 13:45 ok so 13:46 i can start a game, spawn a knight (riding whatever), and can save/reload no prob 13:47 one thing i noticed is the NPC has telepathy 13:48 yes 13:48 probably just a helm of ESP and i don't see how that would matter but 13:50 no luck in recreating so far 13:50 brb 13:50 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Hea Cen Mal Neu), 692 points, T:1278, killed by a giant cockroach 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3057 (0:15:18) 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:21674 (8:04:11) 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21680 (8:04:23) 14:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Mon Dro Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:22226 (8:08:25) 14:04 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a dwarvish short sword entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:30287 (4:04:30) 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a trident entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:31256 (4:07:04) 14:11 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:974 (0:10:17) 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:8372 (1:50:26) 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) had a wooden long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:103212 (1 day, 7:38:06) 14:50 -!- K2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:52 -!- Hecubus has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:01 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 15:01 -!- molybdenum.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.3 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/16izu25 15:01 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 15:02 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 15:02 -!- iridium.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.3 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/16izu25 15:02 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 15:03 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 15:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Cen Mal Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6829 (5:08:42) 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Ran Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2017 (0:54:54) 15:04 -!- K2 has joined #evilhack 15:04 -!- mode/#evilhack [+o K2] by ChanServ 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a spotted jelly, on T:7171 (0:59:55) 15:07 -!- mode/Hecubus_ [+Ziw] by Hecubus_ 15:07 -!- iridium.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.3 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/16izu25 15:07 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus_] by ChanServ 15:08 hi 15:08 Hello mobileuser, Welcome to #evilhack 15:08 ah now with extra _ :b 15:09 That happens when the IRC server hasn't yet figured out that the previous connection is dead. 15:09 -!- Hecubus has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:10 -!- K2_ has joined #evilhack 15:10 -!- mode/#evilhack [+o K2_] by ChanServ 15:10 -!- K2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:11 -!- K2_ is now known as K2 15:12 !ping 15:12 K2: Pong! 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Ran Dro Fem Cha), 1296 points, T:2472, killed by a magic missile 15:20 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1086 points, T:1798, killed by a magic missile 15:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Cen Mal Una) destroyed the invisible Splunge's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:6908 (5:24:18) 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:34703 (4:43:13) 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:34882 (4:53:23) 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:853 (0:03:09) 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1175 (0:05:35) 15:50 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Ran Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3439 (0:35:10) 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3371 points, T:2347, killed by a giant ant 15:53 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1257 (0:34:48) 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1459 (0:36:59) 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Ran Dro Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5008 (0:50:42) 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 4302 points, T:5012, killed by a giant ant 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:8870 (2:30:48) 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Joshu, on T:36573 (5:16:06) 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 19024 points, T:8871, quit 16:09 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 16:15 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:16 hmm what did i lose 16:17 so what made us hardfought burn down, fall over, and sink into the swamp? 16:17 i assume hunter biden did it 16:20 ? 16:20 I haven't noticed any issues 16:21 Even when my power went out mid-game, hardfought restored it all 16:21 at 14:33 today the user server had a brief interlude 16:22 Oh 16:22 timezone? 16:22 EST, k2 time 16:24 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:25 everyone's game ok? 16:25 should have been able to recover if affected 16:25 i live again 16:26 yay 16:26 hardfought's uptime is probably better than my internet connection 16:29 yeah i've never seen it do that before 16:29 could still ping it 16:29 couldnt connect to it 16:29 not even the back way (ec2 instance terminal connect via AWS control panel) 16:29 had to stop the instance and restart it 16:30 not it! 16:30 IT 16:30 what timezones are the different hardfought servers in? 16:31 I think us is in EST, but I'm not sure about the others 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3961 points, T:2687, killed by a tiger 16:31 hdf-us is east coast usa 16:31 hdf-eu is in london (GMT/UTC) 16:32 hdf-au is in sydney, aus 16:33 london is UTC+1 for half the year 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Ran Dro Fem Cha), 1013 points, T:2123, killed by a bugbear 16:36 hdf-eu stays UTC though. honestly they all should be on UTC but it iswhat it is 16:36 and i hate DST with a passion 16:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) had a pair of leather yugake entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:105175 (1 day, 8:35:04) 16:40 never have i worked so hard so long so fruitlessly for OGRESMUSH 16:42 is it possible that it was already generated? 16:45 it is very very very very slightly possible 16:45 i'm still well within the 1% rng probability which i habitually live in 16:47 it would be kinda nice to get a unique "i'm out dude" message when your god tries to give you an artifact and none are left 16:48 hah 16:48 an IOU appears at your feet! 16:50 more like a "jebus, how many artifacts do you need to ascend, you mook" 16:50 alternate evil: if no artifacts are left, god takes one back 16:50 if you get "Use my gift wisely!" but don't get an artifact, then they've run out 16:50 really? didnt know that 16:50 guess i need a stop message :-) 16:51 but i dont think that can happen in evil? because they can always give you a non-artifact 16:51 but if they give you a normal non-artifact, you get "Use my gift valorously" or something 16:53 i see the different message 16:54 but it looks like no message if it cant create an artifact, just silent failure 16:54 the wisely message is guarded by a check on the result of mk_artifact 16:54 so when artifacts run out you'll just keep getting non-artifacts for ever 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Mon Elf Mal Neu), 1705 points, T:1874, killed by a wolf 16:56 off to gymnastics, see you all in a lil while 16:56 dont forget to stretch! 16:56 mk_artifact returns an oprop weapon if no eligible artifacts are left 16:56 ahhh 16:56 ok, cool 16:57 there are drawbacks to never spending more then 20 seconds zipping through the codebase 17:01 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 17:17 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3822 points, T:4511, killed by a leocrotta 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 7984 points, T:6255, killed by a killer bee 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1466 (0:18:37) 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Gno Fem Cha), 2351 points, T:3101, zombified by a hobbit zombie 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law), 216439 points, T:41452, incinerated in molten lava by a salamander 17:49 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha), 2667 points, T:3402, killed by a jumping spider 18:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:15 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Pri Hob Fem Neu), 1755 points, T:2321, killed by a jumping spider 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 577 points, T:1173, killed by a giant bat 18:58 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha), 1386 points, T:3406, killed by a rabid dog 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Gia Mal Una) murdered Hecubus, his faithful lesser homunculus, on T:1111 (0:05:24) 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Gia Mal Una), 888 points, T:1266, killed by a rabid rat 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2449 (0:21:54) 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2912 (0:26:54) 19:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Gia Mal Una), 1819 points, T:2039, killed by a rothe, while praying 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Arc Dwa Mal Neu), 574 points, T:1424, killed by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:108500 (1 day, 10:03:29) 19:48 phew 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Gia Mal Una), 886 points, T:1234, killed by a gnome lord 19:55 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Ran Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:912 (0:08:43) 19:58 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Ran Cen Fem Cha), 1248 points, T:984, killed by a hobgoblin, while reading a book 20:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 20 points, T:62, killed by an electric shock 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Tou Trt Mal Neu), 279 points, T:821, killed by a small mimic 20:11 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 20:11 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 20:16 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:21 contemporary minetown just a giant parking lot surrounding Izchak's Lighting Emporium 20:21 * tinklebear is watching krm26 20:29 i am soooo boring to watch tinklebear 20:30 i've basically been doing housekeeping for the past 50k turns 20:30 trying to decide if i can go do kathryn with so few acid-vulnerable hp 20:30 not much to do in the parking lot :D 20:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3742 points, T:4141, killed by a rope golem, while praying 20:33 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:34 damn acid 20:34 Silon the Splanchomancer heard a rumor going around about how much you liked acid 20:34 just can't hit this ass with basic skill 20:35 would shuriken him but constant summons make that impossible, and i am so squishy that dragons can actually hurt me 20:35 bloody squishy tortles 20:36 Dex is 10 D: 20:36 is that a racial cap? 20:36 yup 20:36 * tinklebear is speechless 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:38960 (5:48:57) 20:45 upside is i have edible accuracy this game. downside is i don't actually HAVE any to eat 20:48 heh 20:48 of course he was wearing life saving 20:50 how rude! 20:52 sigh 20:52 so in the time it takes me to kill one player i can barely hit, another with even better ac spawns 20:53 love these names "Bridbosh the Turncoat" 20:53 problem with being a super slow tortle is you cant even just ignore these guys, they can stick to you like glue 20:53 a human can just run around them 20:54 a charge of cancellation and a full healing potion every player monster just isnt sustainable 20:55 i'm gonna have to make dichotomy and get a helm of brilliance to amnesia myself so i can skill up past basic in something 20:55 I have no idea what I'd do. unblessed earth, move and dig? 20:55 and yeah, low weapon skill on a samurai is pretty crazy build 20:56 well once i vecna i can use the soa with decent skill 20:56 coulda had excalibur but i fatfingered crowning 20:56 oh, this is that game. 20:56 yeah my games last for ever 20:57 canno be kilt 20:57 in my defense, i'm not playing a lot of the time i'm sitting around in game, and when i am playing half the time i'm doing something else with my brain :-) 20:58 could REALLY use a pet dragon helper but i have 0 poly traps to exploit 21:01 could backdoor the castle and levelport out without the wand, i guess 21:01 if you can tame 21:01 oh, wait. evilhack. probably no backdoor 21:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Bau (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1864 points, T:3911, killed by a giant mimic 21:02 you can always gets some silver and white dragons from kathryn, but i don't have ez access to taming 21:04 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 21:05 and of course if i have to make dichotomy pets aren't as useful, since you're always blowing them up 21:05 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 21:09 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:11 I reverse genocide red molds (for horses) more than anything else 21:11 sometimes spend two scrolls, and no luck 21:11 cold resistance for herbivores is easier (because blue jellies can be bred) 21:12 lots of fairly guaranteed blue jellies at kathryn too 21:12 true 21:12 but as a melee tortle i'm gonna be using every available genocide to wipe out stuff 21:12 because soooo slow 21:13 sounds like riding a wumpus and wearing fumblegear the whole game 21:13 beholders, alhoones, Lx4, green slime, maybe vampire mages, hill giant shaman...gray dragon, orange dragon 21:13 hill giant shaman!? 21:13 i could easily use 15 scrolls of genocide without running out of things that will be causing me trouble 21:13 lol 21:13 summoners that get summoned are bad, snowball effect when you are slow and miss a lot 21:14 interesting 21:14 ugh my previous tortle ascension rodney was AWFUL. i had two unkillable spawns i had to abandon 21:15 tortle priest was just a pain in my tuchus 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5611 (0:43:56) 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:5649 (0:44:31) 21:20 tortle handicaps sound like absolute hell 21:22 i've done monk and priest and they were both very challenging but i think sammy is harder 21:24 i'm definitely gonna blow 50k screwing around trying to get/make accuracy to eat 21:24 so i'll be here all month 21:24 you mentioned low skill. where did your skill points go? 21:26 at XP 18, it seems like you'd have points to spare 21:26 oh, my good weapons just capped at basic 21:26 I see 21:26 trident -- basic, hammer -- basic 21:26 lol 21:26 sadly snickersnee is not really a viable long sword 21:27 do you ditch the yumi on turn 1? 21:27 no, i used the heck out of it 21:27 but never bothered to skill it up 21:27 I see 21:27 it is fine at basic and as soon as you can make some shuriken you're gonna ditch it 21:27 shuriken are amazing 21:28 although admittedly better when you can hit the broad side of a barn 21:30 the hammer and trident are obtainable earlier than the brands, is that it? 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a warg corpse on an altar, on T:6934 (1:00:51) 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6985 (1:02:10) 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Trt Fem Law) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:110317 (1 day, 11:49:36) 21:35 like, in my complete ignorance, it seems like a samurai could be dual wielding expert artifact short swords and kicking ass by XP 18 21:36 instead of messing around with a trident 21:37 but I am clueless about the sac gifts, and know nothing about tortles, and all kinds of considerations 21:40 angelslayer has some advantages over firebrand -- its hellfire affects normally fire resistant monsters (although not infernals), and it gives you half spell damage 21:40 I see 21:40 but until just now i was using fireband as my primary weapon (i.e. my secondary weapon, since i had the skill to hit with it more in the offhand) 21:40 Tortles also start with tridents in place of certain roles' weapons. 21:41 now i will be doing expert 2h with basic angelslayer mainhand, skilled dichotomy offhand 21:41 which hopefully will carry me to sword of annihilation, where i will be doing skilled dichotomy mainhand, expert sword of annihilation offhand 21:42 although i may need to bail to onehanded with ashmar 21:42 which i should probably take a moment to make 21:42 interesting 21:43 thank you for explaining 21:43 * tinklebear is deeply suspicious of package deals 21:43 every little tiny bit is important for this particular race/role combo (imo) 21:43 under normal circumstances there is much more flexibility 21:44 having only two gear slots is BOGUS 21:44 the handicaps do sound pretty deadly 21:45 the low speed is awful, and the 10 dex is particularly bad for this role -- not nearly as much of a handicap for a monk 21:49 the other really nice thing about dichotomy is it procs fireballs/frostballs sometimes, which can hit and damage otherwise untouchable player monsters 21:50 ah 21:51 almost makes it sound like two-weapon investment is a trap. lots to think about 21:52 basic two weapon is garbage in evilhack endgame; skilled and expert can be ok depending on how you do it 21:52 (imo) 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:8316 (1:22:07) 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8409 (1:22:52) 21:59 Two-weapon investment is only potentially a trap insofar as you fail to commit to it. 22:00 yes, that has been my own view as well, Umbire 22:01 Less room for "error" compared to vanilla, but not always to a point of lethality. 22:01 learning about the tortle handicaps (dex, speed in particular) now make me question the value of that commitment 22:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:10116 (1:32:00) 22:08 OMG. Tortles are lizard men! 22:08 * tinklebear loves tortles now 22:08 Genuinely what did you think they were until now. 22:09 well, the shell stuff isn't very lizardy, is it? 22:09 Never stopped them before. 22:09 Also I personally feel like the lack of armor slots comes up much more than already-significant speed issues. 22:10 Gloves, shield, helm, and they have to be soft if you want to keep them on when going into your shell. 22:14 lizard men are notably slow on land, semiaquatic, and use shields 22:15 I have always wondered, where are the lizard men in nethack? 22:16 now i know 22:29 twoweaponing to-hit is better in evilhack vs vanilla 22:29 I did not know that! 22:29 It's also got weight limits based on off-hand weapons. 22:30 Short swords are on the whole lighter, mithril anything is usually friendly enough, and things open up a bunch once you get to basic. 22:30 And so on. 22:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible karibou's ghost, the former Adept, on T:12090 (1:59:25) 22:38 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 22:43 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] tealbare (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Bau's ghost, the former Bachelorette, on T:2497 (0:25:50) 22:52 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a Hawaiian shirt entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:1273 (0:07:59) 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1555 (0:10:30) 23:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:15359 (2:25:56) 23:06 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:13391 (2:08:02) 23:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Ran Cen Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:807 (0:11:43) 23:19 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 16 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3588 (0:27:23) 23:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:51482 (7:12:11) 23:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:51484 (7:12:16) 23:20 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Mal Cha), 26670 points, T:16246, burned by a fireball 23:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:16263 (2:36:22) 23:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:51849 (7:14:40) 23:23 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 19 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3921 (0:32:03) 23:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Ran Cen Mal Cha), 1362 points, T:1234, killed by Mr. Gweebarra; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 23:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed tealbare's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:17038 (2:43:07) 23:30 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 23:30 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of cloth low boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4702 (0:39:14) 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5034 (0:45:35) 23:38 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5100 (0:46:43) 23:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 16 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5213 (0:48:38) 23:54 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 19 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6806 (1:02:24) 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7029 (1:04:11)