00:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a quarterstaff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3841 (0:26:33)
00:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:82463 (19:26:33)
00:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) used a forge to create the Armor of Retribution, on T:82559 (19:27:33)
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00:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:4675 (0:34:11)
00:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:42720 (12:50:14)
00:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:42722 (12:50:33)
00:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:43176 (12:57:50)
00:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:82857 (19:46:49)
00:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:82858 (19:47:26)
00:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:7203 (0:47:59)
00:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5169 (0:39:39)
00:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 25554 points, T:7999, killed by a giant crocodile
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00:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6082 (0:53:00)
00:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) averted death (killed by Yeenoghu), on T:84418 (20:19:38)
00:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:84422 (20:19:49)
00:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 2367491 points, T:84466, killed by Juiblex
01:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) destroyed the invisible DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:7990 (1:28:12)
01:14 <PhantomLumina> !lastgame 
01:14 <Hecubus> PhantomLumina: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/evilhack/dumplog/1697166980.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Splunge/evilhack/dumplog/1696999961.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1697019771.evil.html
01:14 <PhantomLumina> Shoulda spent the leaves...
01:15 <PhantomLumina> They'll get there before too long hopefully
01:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered Doctor McCoy, her faithful cauchemar, on T:24117 (17:43:50)
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04:34 <arahael> Time for a game, even though it's friday the 13th...
04:52 <Noisytoot> <krm26> just put the pyec in a bag
04:52 <Noisytoot> I'm not sure you can if you're chaotic and not a tourist
04:52 <Noisytoot> and then it won't provide slotless MR
04:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 21637 points, T:7143, petrified by a cockatrice
04:54 <arahael> Dumb.
05:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 202 points, T:263, killed by Mr. Fenouilledes; the shopkeeper
05:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:353 (0:01:30)
05:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1051 (0:07:37)
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06:17 <xdminsy> !who
06:17 <Hecubus> xdminsy: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil]
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06:30 <xdminsy> Meh, friday the 13th is not okay to pray.
06:35 <mobileuser> yeah, -1 to luck
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07:23 <arahael> I forgot about how prayer's affected.
07:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 23621 points, T:7530, killed by a honey badger, while praying
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07:56 <Noisytoot> If you need to pray, save and wait until tomorrow
07:59 <Umbire> Or just find a luckstone.
08:01 <k3ut0i> wow! friday the 13th and new moon
08:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:16530 (3:01:06)
08:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class b), on T:8576 (1:46:12)
08:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1247 (1:03:52)
08:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:9668 (2:05:58)
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09:41 <Loggers_VIII> !who
09:41 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] Imanity [evil] :: [hdf-us] DragonSidedD [evil] dbanethacker [evil] tinklebear [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players
09:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 1363 points, T:1779, killed by a gnome king
09:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13066 (2:53:58)
09:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3324 (0:11:58)
09:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3678 (0:13:31)
09:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:52602 (5:34:36)
09:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:3698 (0:14:01)
09:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:52808 (5:36:16)
09:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided beholders, on T:52867 (5:36:37)
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10:01 <Loggers_VIII> hah, 30 scrolls of charging
10:02 <Loggers_VIII> I don't really need that, but it's kind of nice
10:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a silver circular amulet on an altar, on T:5109 (0:24:01)
10:04 <krm26> got an edible acc/dam ring set to use it on?
10:05 <Loggers_VIII> what material is twisted?
10:05 <krm26> edible!
10:05 <krm26> metal
10:05 <Loggers_VIII> wonderfullll
10:05 <Loggers_VIII> increase accuracy is diamond, but when I hit I'm gonna hit like a damn truck
10:05 <krm26> heh
10:06 <krm26> if i had a choice i'd choose accuracy any time i'm a dual wielder, but not gonna sneeze at damage for sure
10:06 <krm26> it IS cool to be able to hit the crazy ac player monsters every time
10:06 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
10:06 <Loggers_VIII> healers can't twoweapon, so getting extra damage is quite nice
10:11 <Loggers_VIII> nooooo I accidentally walked into water and they got blanked :(
10:11 <Loggers_VIII> fuckkkkk my genocide scrolls too :|
10:13 <Loggers_VIII> time to go sulk and infinitely polypile >:(
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10:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Poseidon, on T:54556 (5:52:12)
10:18 <Umbire> Bright side, closer to Dichotomy.
10:19 <Loggers_VIII> yep
10:19 <Loggers_VIII> pleasant surprise, just stopped by to get max luck
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10:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:15604 (3:28:04)
10:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7558 (0:42:47)
10:25 <Loggers_VIII> well, polypiling net me 7 more geno scrolls so I'm happy
10:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Poseidon, on T:56041 (6:03:16)
10:28 <Loggers_VIII> cool, all I need now is frost brand
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10:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8243 (0:50:30)
10:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:59362 (15:43:28)
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10:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:59464 (15:45:58)
10:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:60063 (16:00:44)
10:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 28681 points, T:11848, killed by a mountain centaur
11:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:60720 (16:19:17)
11:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:60877 (16:26:45)
11:17 <bouquet> very generous, Anhur, but I need secespita.
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11:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:28144 (4:56:26)
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12:09 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) had a mace entrusted to her by Poseidon, on T:57342 (6:13:38)
12:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 stone helm of speed", on T:43425 (13:36:27)
12:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Poseidon, on T:59000 (6:30:53)
12:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Poseidon, on T:59442 (6:34:38)
12:35 <Loggers_VIII> something weird just happened: "The invisible elven wizard zaps the hill orc with a magic missile! The magic missile hits the hill orc! The hill orc is moderately wounded. The magic missile bounces! You kill the hill orc! You feel guilty. The invisible elven wizard gets angry! The magic missile hits the invisible elven wizard."
12:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 290 points, T:1399, killed by a large spider
12:36 <Loggers_VIII> the magic missile killed the hill orc; the magic missile didn't bounce off of me, since I didn't take any damage and there was no message about only some of the missiles bouncing off
12:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) had a staff of holiness entrusted to her by Poseidon, on T:60392 (6:43:09)
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12:42 <terrapin> "The elven wizard zaps the hill orc with a magic missile! You kill the hill orc!"
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12:42 <terrapin> Yup, something is screwy. I did feel like monsters were getting angrier than normal recently
12:43 <Umbire> Oh dear
12:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4095 points, T:3321, killed by a water elemental of Chih Sung-tzu
12:55 <terrapin> to no one's surprise, I'm sure, it's a bug from adding stun breath
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13:14 <imanity> Found fire brand on the floor
13:14 <imanity> Now I get to lock it away
13:14 <imanity> So much better than using it or forging :D
13:15 <terrapin> :(
13:15 <terrapin> maybe you can get a good pet to wield it
13:16 <imanity> Maybe
13:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 4029 points, T:2808, killed by a crocodile, while frozen by a monster's gaze
13:19 <imanity> Whoops
13:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:36168 (6:13:44)
13:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2629 (0:23:54)
13:45 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 4441 points, T:2845, quit
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13:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a splint mail entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:36980 (6:32:02)
13:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a pair of riding gloves entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:37772 (6:38:06)
13:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a helm of speed entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:37969 (6:40:49)
14:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 765 points, T:1714, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant bat
14:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:158261 (2 days, 21:56:47)
14:32 <bouquet> I got so many awesome artifacts this game but I won't even bother wielding them :(
14:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 637 points, T:1349, killed by a wererat, while praying
14:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:61162 (16:37:14)
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14:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:61574 (16:50:08)
14:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:61697 (16:54:23)
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15:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Hum Mal Una), 462 points, T:1193, zombified by a hobbit zombie
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15:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Ith Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3830 (1:28:02)
15:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 3088 points, T:3858, diseased by an elf zombie, while frozen by a potion
15:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:45810 (14:33:36)
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15:42 <dingotron> new one: about to starve to death while floating in the air over a food ration
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15:43 <krm26> at least you can smell it!
15:43 <dingotron> If I faint, will I faint in the air or fall down?
15:43 <dingotron> @krm26 ha. indeed
15:43 <terrapin> have you tried '>' in case it's a blessed potion?
15:44 <dingotron> nope! turns out you can faint in midair
15:44 <dingotron> just tried it. also no sinks around
15:44 <dingotron> yes! 'you wobble in the air'
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15:46 <dingotron> still alive. potion wore off just in time
15:46 <krm26> yay!
15:46 <krm26> never drink unidentified potions
15:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of free action", on T:46700 (14:48:02)
15:55 <terrapin> damn, gold
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16:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Ith Fem Cha), 604 points, T:1638, killed by a rock gnome, while fainted from lack of food
16:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:159545 (2 days, 23:34:42)
16:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided disenchanters, on T:159546 (2 days, 23:35:36)
16:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided electric eels, on T:159546 (2 days, 23:35:39)
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16:07 <krm26> gold free action is the WORST
16:07 <krm26> especially when shambling horrors get steal gold
16:07 <Loggers_VIII> add another genocide to that list
16:08 <krm26> i HAVE had a gold free action shambler with steal gold  AND paralyze WHILE barbarian :-P
16:08 <krm26> because of course
16:08 <Noisytoot> add some shambling horror you have to kill to be able to genocide shambling horrors
16:08 <krm26> no, k2 needs to use my shambler suggestion
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16:08 <krm26> every time a shambler is killed they get an additional ability
16:08 <Noisytoot> what's that?
16:09 <Loggers_VIII> both of your suggestions work, for every shambler you kill the unique one gets an ability
16:09 <Noisytoot> there's a limit of 6 attacks per monster
16:09 <Loggers_VIII> increase it
16:09 <krm26> i know, smop
16:09 <Noisytoot> dnethack increases it to 10 but making it arbitrary would be much harder
16:09 <krm26> since it is a new hack anyway that wouldn't matter much, just a special shambler check
16:10 <krm26> wouldnt have to be arbitrary, just an ability bitfield for shamblers
16:10 <Loggers_VIII> the only limit to monster attacks is your imagination
16:10 <Noisytoot> the monster struct is of a limited size that is fixed at compile time
16:10 <krm26> right, dont need to touch that, hack based on montype
16:10 <krm26> all you need is the count of shambler deaths which you already have
16:10 <krm26> and a single word somewhere
16:11 <krm26> there might even be space to weasel to avoid breaking saves
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16:11 <Noisytoot> I don't think so if you're adding a new monster
16:11 <krm26> not adding a new monster
16:11 <Loggers_VIII> the idea is Silly anyhow
16:12 <krm26> the idea is AWESOME
16:12 <Noisytoot> dnethack has chokhmah sephiroth that become stronger each time you kill one
16:12 <krm26> and EVIL
16:12 <Loggers_VIII> I think you would have to make it that the initial shambler only has 1-2 attacks, to balance it
16:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 445382 points, T:47154, killed by Dispater
16:12 <Loggers_VIII> D:
16:13 <terrapin> Dispater and Geryon dropped by to say hi in VotD
16:13 <krm26> no sir
16:13 <krm26> you can already get useless shamblers right now
16:13 <Loggers_VIII> rip :c
16:13 <krm26> tortles are hard
16:13 <krm26> even for a terrapin
16:13 <terrapin> :)
16:13 <Loggers_VIII> krm26 yes but you can also get turbo powerful disease disenchant brain eat vorpal shamblers right now and getting that one as your initial shambler would really suck with that system
16:14 <krm26> that is true, and EVIL
16:14 <krm26> think of the glory of ascending that game
16:14 <Loggers_VIII> evilhack is not evil variant
16:14 <terrapin> it's just misunderstood
16:15 <krm26> we always think we can be the one to tame it
16:15 <Loggers_VIII> I think evilhack does get kind of a bad rap, intentionally or not, as "variant that is really hard that's it"
16:15 <Noisytoot> you will quickly end up with horrors that are instadeath to encounter (and very message spammy if you survive)
16:15 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame
16:15 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/evilhack/dumplog/1697217563.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/terrapin/evilhack/dumplog/1696823712.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1697187735.evil.html
16:17 <krm26> oh crap i have magic lamps to rub dont i
16:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed marker", on T:159615 (2 days, 23:46:11)
16:18 <krm26> the last wish for the player who doesnt need anything :-P
16:18 <Loggers_VIII> marker!!!
16:18 <Loggers_VIII> more like the first six wishes for any discerning player
16:18 <krm26> actually i could try for the elusive second artifact
16:18 <Loggers_VIII> no balls
16:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed gjallar", on T:159618 (2 days, 23:47:20)
16:18 <krm26> oh YEAH, even with a norn attached
16:19 <Loggers_VIII> \o/
16:19 <krm26> dammit norn, what is with the amulet of life saving
16:20 <krm26> oh that is why he is so tough
16:20 <krm26> i'm fighting him wielding the lamp
16:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the Norn, on T:159630 (2 days, 23:48:49)
16:21 <krm26> hmmm... i could burn my wand looking for a third
16:22 <krm26> more stuff for rodney to steal
16:22 <Loggers_VIII> it's like 1/3 chance now right?
16:23 <krm26> yeah
16:23 <Loggers_VIII> I like those odds
16:23 <krm26> 1/(n-1)
16:23 <krm26> where n = wishes, not successes
16:24 <krm26> i wonder if i really need this last magic lamp anyway, my main weapon is the hammer
16:24 <Loggers_VIII> whaddaya need a light source for now anyway
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16:24 <krm26> because i forged my eyeball into extra carrying capacity
16:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 1668 points, T:3680, killed by a rothe, while praying
16:26 <imanity> Must've hurt xd
16:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 2969 points, T:2399, quit
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16:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:159680 (3 days, 0:01:30)
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16:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 602 points, T:585, killed by the Goblin King
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16:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 339 points, T:1508, killed by touching Dramborleg
16:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 139 points, T:460, killed by a jackal
16:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1764 (0:21:17)
17:11 <krm26> ooh rough dramborleg death
17:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3251 (0:18:05)
17:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 1266 points, T:3254, quit
17:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:160096 (3 days, 0:57:40)
17:30 <krm26> ooh unfortunate wrinkle, weredemon > feverish > purity slides off > no longer death resistant
17:33 <Noisytoot> YANI: if you are a weredemon, you become death resistant (because you're a demon)
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17:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had a copper dagger entrusted to him by Tymora, on T:517 (0:02:56)
18:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:62061 (17:13:01)
18:06 <bouquet> are forged artifacts worth more points than the sum of the individual components?
18:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:3362 (0:17:03)
18:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dro Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:5292 (1:37:20)
18:13 <imanity> I cant even eat wraith corpses
18:13 <imanity> hahaha
18:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 6228 points, T:5292, quit
18:13 <hackemslashem> Demons already resist death magic tho
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18:15 <hackemslashem> Weredemons count as demons, at least half the time?
18:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:62440 (17:24:31)
18:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) destroyed dingotron's ghost, the former Inmate, on T:4185 (0:24:18)
18:17 <bouquet> about damn time
18:17 <Noisytoot> hackemslashem: I mean that you should get death resistance when you have lycanthropy from a weredemon even if not currently in weredemon form, like you get drain res and lycanthropy from being a werecreature even when not in werecreature form
18:18 <hackemslashem> ah gotca
18:18 <hackemslashem> *gotcha
18:18 <Noisytoot> s/drain res and lycanthropy/drain res and regeneration/
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18:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Poseidon, on T:60933 (6:45:35)
18:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5023 (0:32:24)
18:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36654 (9:23:34)
18:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Poseidon, on T:61335 (6:50:28)
18:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:5737 (0:38:49)
18:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 6004 points, T:5758, killed by a gnome queen, while sleeping
18:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Poseidon, on T:62757 (6:55:45)
18:33 <Loggers_VIII> alright, cool
18:36 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:63269 (6:58:51)
18:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Gia Mal Law), 2121 points, T:3191, killed by the Goblin King
18:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:62755 (17:29:26)
18:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 292 points, T:1381, killed by a mithril crossbow bolt
18:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:65632 (7:19:57)
18:58 <Loggers_VIII> ok if you polymorph you don't drop the express card, confirmed
19:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 2059 points, T:2266, killed by a soldier ant, while being terrified of a ghost
19:03 <terrapin> oh huh, it looks like "evading your grasp" only happens if you try to pick it up/wish for it. if it's already in inventory then applying/invoking/polying/wielding etc. will not work, but it won't be dropped either
19:03 <terrapin> wacky
19:04 <Loggers_VIII> you also can't take it out of a bag
19:04 <Loggers_VIII> you can put it in, but when trying to take it out it evades your grasp
19:04 <terrapin> right, just "adding to open inventory" in general
19:04 <Loggers_VIII> YANI: hitting a tree with fire brand/dichotomy burns it up
19:06 <terrapin> yani: fiery weapons anger nymphs like a bane does
19:07 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 59 points, T:569, killed by a goblin
19:07 <Loggers_VIII> YASI: if you hit a wood nymph with a water blast it turns into a tree
19:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:66370 (7:29:26)
19:09 <Loggers_VIII> hah, dichotomy is so fun on the ice queen's realm. burn up all the dead trees and melt all the ice
19:09 <terrapin> good thing you're a tortle!
19:10 <Loggers_VIII> a tortle who hates water! I've been levitating
19:10 <Loggers_VIII> water has taken so much from me this game >:(
19:10 <Loggers_VIII> can't wait to have waterproof holding
19:11 <Loggers_VIII> remember that time I died to baphomet on the last ice queen level?
19:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:66586 (7:32:50)
19:11 <Loggers_VIII> this time is not going to be like that
19:11 <terrapin> yikes! not off the top of my head
19:12 <Noisytoot> why is baphomet there?
19:12 <terrapin> avenge my poor demon lord--beset tortle!
19:12 <Loggers_VIII> noisytoot, there's a handful of ice devils
19:12 <Loggers_VIII> sometimes they gate stuff
19:12 <Loggers_VIII> terrapin, your loss will not be forgotten!
19:13 <Loggers_VIII> man that was a rough death though
19:15 <terrapin> i think i carried out my rabbit duties successfully though :)
19:16 <Loggers_VIII> heh
19:16 <Loggers_VIII> can't deny that
19:17 <Loggers_VIII> weird, I wonder why snow golems aren't neuter
19:17 <Pinkbeast> They don't just have carrot _noses_
19:17 <terrapin> it's not "Frosty the Snowperson"
19:18 <terrapin> though now that i think about it, it's odd that i've literally never heard the term "snowwoman" in this age of increasing efforts towards gender equality
19:18 <Noisytoot> straw, paper, rope, gold, leather, wood golems are neuter. flesh, clay, stone, glass, iron, snow are not. I mentioned this in ##nethack-variants a few days ago.
19:19 <terrapin> the double-double-u is so satisfying, too
19:19 <Loggers_VIII> there's a calvin and hobbes comic where susie makes a snow woman and calvin retaliates by making an anatomically correct snow man
19:20 <Loggers_VIII> noisytoot: wierd
19:20 <Loggers_VIII> weird
19:20 <Pinkbeast> Snowbod
19:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:66842 (7:41:45)
19:20 <Loggers_VIII> god, finally an easy kathryn fight
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19:24 <Loggers_VIII> it's weird that ice devils are fire resistant
19:26 <Loggers_VIII> idk if this is a weird question or not, but when I try to ssh to nethack@hardfought.org it doesn't work and I get the message "no hostkey alg" do any of you know what that means
19:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 74 points, T:481, killed by a goblin
19:29 <Pinkbeast> Tell us what ssh client you are using, for starters
19:30 <Loggers_VIII> I'm just doing it from the terminal on macos
19:31 <Pinkbeast> Quote the error verbatim
19:31 <Pinkbeast> Ideally, do ssh -v and pastebin all the output.
19:32 <Loggers_VIII> "no hostkey alg" is all it says
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19:33 <terrapin> if you go to your .ssh folder
19:33 <Pinkbeast> Don't think I can comment more without seeing verbose output
19:33 <terrapin> which a quick google says is probably in Users/<username> for macs?
19:34 <Log> ssh -v gives this https://pastebin.com/2Mru2EAX
19:34 <bouquet> do you have a .ssh folder with any "config" files? 
19:35 <Pinkbeast> Er... you have a hilariously ancient ssh client and it doesn't support any modern host key exchange algorithm
19:35 <terrapin> was that just ssh -v or ssh -v nethack@hardfought.org?
19:35 <Loggers_VIII> pinkbeast thanks :D
19:35 <Log> just ssh -v
19:36 <Pinkbeast> Don't have a hilariously ancient ssh client.
19:36 <bouquet> the server supports all the new stuff.
19:36 <bouquet>  kex_input_ext_info: server-sig-algs=<ssh-ed25519,sk-ssh-ed25519@openssh.com,ssh-rsa,rsa-sha2-256,rsa-sha2-512,ssh-dss,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp384,ecdsa-sha2-nistp521,sk-ecdsa-sha2-nistp256@openssh.com,webauthn-sk-ecdsa-sha2-nistp256@openssh.com>
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19:37 <PhantomLumina> Loggers_VIII, they're ice monsters that live in hell
19:37 <PhantomLumina> you want they should melt?
19:37 <Pinkbeast> Do 'which ssh' but also is this a hilariously ancient MacOS?
19:37 <Loggers_VIII> pinkbeast yes it is
19:37 <Pinkbeast> https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/openssh should let you have a less ancient ssh client
19:37 <Loggers_VIII> phantomlumina umm ackshually ice devils do not generate in gehennom on account of being lawfil
19:37 <Loggers_VIII> *lawful
19:38 <PhantomLumina> counterpoint
19:38 * PhantomLumina zaps a wand of death!
19:38 <Loggers_VIII> oh wait they are chaotic nevermind
19:38 <PhantomLumina> lol
19:38 <terrapin> i really wish the monster lookup included alignment
19:39 <Loggers_VIII> alright pinkbeast thanks for the help
19:39 <Loggers_VIII> I had thought it would be something to do with my computer being ancient, just wasn't sure
19:39 <Loggers_VIII> computer/os/whatever
19:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1896 (0:39:38)
19:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Gia Fem Law), 1043 points, T:2004, poisoned by a rotted goblin shaman corpse
19:42 <PhantomLumina> @e?ice devil
19:42 <Hecubus> ice devil (&) | Lvl: 11 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 55 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -4 | Atk: 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 claw physical, 2d4 bite physical, 3d4 sting cold | Align: -12 | seeinvis, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis
19:42 <PhantomLumina> It does, terrapin 
19:42 <PhantomLumina> @e?Wizard of Yendor
19:42 <Hecubus> Wizard of Yendor (@) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 35 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison | Confer: fire poison | MR: 100 | Gen: unique | AC: -6 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical, 2d12 claw amulet steal, 0d0 cast spell, 0d0 cast clerical | Align: -128 | omnivore, flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, tele, nopoly, covetous, infravis
19:42 <Loggers_VIII> -128 is unaligned, right?
19:42 <terrapin> the in-game one, i mean
19:43 <bouquet> @e?hobbit
19:43 <Hecubus> hobbit (h) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical | Align: 6 | genocidable, omnivore, infravis
19:43 <bouquet> @e?Angel
19:43 <Hecubus> Angel (A) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 10 | Res: cold sleep shock poison magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 55 | Gen: dungeons | AC: -4 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical, 1d4 claw physical, 2d6 cast magic missile | Align: 12 | flies, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis
19:43 <bouquet> now I want to know what the alignment value scale is
19:43 <PhantomLumina> +Lawful, =Neutral, -Chaotic.
19:43 <terrapin> -1,0,1,-128
19:43 <PhantomLumina> Not terribly complex.
19:43 <terrapin> for players
19:43 <PhantomLumina> Rodney's technically unaligned.
19:44 <PhantomLumina> Which requires a bit of finagling in that regard.
19:44 <bouquet> ah
19:44 <Loggers_VIII> I think I heard someone mention his army should be unaligned too, that would be a cool detail
19:44 <PhantomLumina> Ehhhh.
19:44 <Loggers_VIII> but largely has no function
19:44 <PhantomLumina> I can take it or leave it.
19:44 <PhantomLumina> Yeah, it really doesn't do anything.
19:45 <PhantomLumina> Besides utterly destroy balancing of alignment record gains, I guess.
19:45 <PhantomLumina> Nothing major.
19:45 <Loggers_VIII> utterly destroy is a liiiittle bit of a stretch
19:45 <Loggers_VIII> hah, balrog stole both dichotomy and staff of aesculapius
19:45 <Loggers_VIII> I keep forgetting I don't know magic missile yet
19:46 <PhantomLumina> I am japing a bit to be fair.
19:46 <PhantomLumina> Does fuck things up quite a fair bit, though.
19:46 <Loggers_VIII> how does alignment record gains work again?
19:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) destroyed Charon, on T:67776 (8:02:56)
19:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:67790 (8:03:07)
19:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 233 points, T:1334, killed by Mr. Picq; the shopkeeper
19:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:67800 (8:03:14)
19:48 <PhantomLumina> Loggers_VIII, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Alignment_record#Alignment_gains_from_killing_monsters
19:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided shadow dragons, on T:67808 (8:03:37)
19:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided gray dragons, on T:67809 (8:03:39)
19:50 <PhantomLumina> It's why killing stuff is generally the best way to recover alignment
19:50 <Loggers_VIII> ooh, your alignment would skyrocket with ludios and the castle
19:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) averted death (incinerated in molten lava by a salamander), on T:67845 (8:04:41)
19:52 <Loggers_VIII> shade slowing touch+paralysis, phew
19:52 <PhantomLumina> Woof.
19:52 <Loggers_VIII> I was very ready to use some unfortunate choices of words, I totally forgot I had an AolS on :P
19:53 <Loggers_VIII> this is why we don't take off free action for levitation, people
19:59 <Noisytoot> your alignment is easy to increase anyway, so it doesn't really make much of a difference
19:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Gia Fem Law), 304 points, T:1695, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food
20:00 <Loggers_VIII> what is the strategy for pri gia?
20:00 <terrapin> i'm hardly the person to ask!
20:00 <PhantomLumina> No real reason to make it easier.
20:01 <terrapin> so far, i've got as far as: "Hit things"
20:01 <PhantomLumina> Probably find a club-type weapon - being a giant plays to their blunt weapon strengths.
20:01 <PhantomLumina> And boulders are ever the solid fallback.
20:01 <Loggers_VIII> meh, by the time you're seeing soldiers and such in large quantities you'll have high enough alignment it won't really matter. I could go either way on it
20:01 <Loggers_VIII> lol terrapin
20:01 <terrapin> clubs do get a slight advantage but it only adds up to about 1 extra point of damage
20:01 <krm26> giant priest is the bomb
20:02 <krm26> they are no different from any other priest except for boulder cheese
20:02 <PhantomLumina> I was thinking more "weapon breaking" and "knocking monsters silly"
20:02 <PhantomLumina> Wait, conflating several things.
20:02 <PhantomLumina> "they have a greater chance of stunning an opponent with a club or punch, and can shatter a foe's wielded weapon with almost any wielded weapon of their own." okay coo
20:03 <PhantomLumina> Not something to lean on per se, but nice perks to have.
20:03 <Loggers_VIII> conflation is increasingly rampant these days, unfortunately. the economy's a mess
20:03 <Loggers_VIII> I'm sorry that was really bad
20:03 <PhantomLumina> 's not my fault you like to blow up drow convicts.
20:03 <PhantomLumina> :3
20:03 <Loggers_VIII> hahaha
20:04 <Loggers_VIII> I was thinking of trying con dro neu maybe after this tortle healer
20:04 <terrapin> heh, started with detect food this time
20:05 <Loggers_VIII> xdminsy's descriptions of con dro makes it sound almost not like gouging my eyes out with blunt forks!
20:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:64983 (18:31:38)
20:05 <PhantomLumina> Detect food is solid for tracking corpses
20:05 <PhantomLumina> particularly zombie ones
20:05 <PhantomLumina> plus no nutrition drain
20:06 <Loggers_VIII> it's div skill if nothing else
20:06 <Noisytoot> Loggers_VIII: the first ascension alignment bug was fixed
20:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 341 points, T:1170, killed by a goblin
20:06 <terrapin> thought it was funny after dying of starvation
20:06 <Loggers_VIII> noisytoot what is that
20:07 <Noisytoot> Loggers_VIII: align0 was being recorded incorrectly, first combos are now based on initial alignment like every other variant
20:07 <PhantomLumina> Oh yeah, Skilled detect food gives the appraisal intrinsic
20:07 <Loggers_VIII> booooooooo
20:07 <Loggers_VIII> that was a feature as far as I'M concerned
20:07 <Loggers_VIII> (which is very little)
20:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:65251 (18:39:45)
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20:17 <Loggers_VIII> @e?barbed devil
20:17 <Hecubus> barbed devil (&) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 35 | Gen: gehennom | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d4 claw physical, 3d4 sting physical, 2d4 cast fire | Align: 8 | thick hide, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis
20:17 <Loggers_VIII> @e?asmodeus
20:17 <Hecubus> Asmodeus (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -7 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 3d6 claw slow, 6d6 cast cold, 6d6 cast clerical | Align: 20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis
20:17 <Loggers_VIII> is there a reason that different monsters have different alignment values even though they're functionally the same alignment?
20:20 <PhantomLumina> There's a rumor specifically for that as it happens
20:20 <PhantomLumina> Mentions that some monsters are more lawful than others
20:20 <Loggers_VIII> ah
20:21 <PhantomLumina> The most chaotic without the adjustments that Rodney's case requires is 
20:21 <PhantomLumina> @?Nalzok
20:21 <Hecubus> Nalzok (&) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 23 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -2 | Atk: 8d4 weapon physical, 4d6 weapon physical, 0d0 cast spell, 2d6 claw amulet steal | Align: -127 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate
20:22 <PhantomLumina> After that it's two named demons and the Master of Thieves
20:22 <Loggers_VIII> interesting
20:22 <PhantomLumina> Most of the "big gun" monsters are p. strongly aligned compared to earlier stuff
20:23 <Loggers_VIII> that's a fun bit of flavor
20:23 <Loggers_VIII> what's nalzok's 'lore' again?
20:23 <Loggers_VIII> i forget
20:24 <PhantomLumina> Servant of Moloch, took da Mitre
20:24 <Loggers_VIII> makes sense he's basically unaligned, then
20:24 <Loggers_VIII> close to it, anyway
20:24 <PhantomLumina> Yahuh
20:24 <PhantomLumina> lit. max chaotic value
20:24 <Loggers_VIII> that moloch guy, he really gets around
20:25 <terrapin> so moloch decided that of all artifacts to go for besides the Amulet, he wanted the *Mitre*??
20:26 <terrapin> odd choice, that
20:26 <krm26> let him have that stupid thing
20:26 <Loggers_VIII> moloch is k2 confirmed
20:26 <Loggers_VIII> "guys the mitre is really good already it doesn't need a buff" -moloch, probably
20:27 <terrapin> i actually quite like the mitre usually
20:27 <Loggers_VIII> it's *alright*
20:28 <Loggers_VIII> it's not like heart of ahriman-tier or anything, but I'll gladly chuck it back at the arch priest
20:28 <PhantomLumina> I don't think it was something he WANTED wanted, but he is an enemy of the gods so
20:29 <Loggers_VIII> heh, he just did it for the goofs
20:29 <PhantomLumina> "At one of the Great Festivals a short time ago, Nalzok and a legion
20:29 <PhantomLumina> of undead invaded the Great Temple.  Many acolytes were killed, including
20:29 <PhantomLumina> the one carrying the Mitre of Holiness.
20:29 <PhantomLumina> "As a final act of vengefulness, Nalzok desecrated the altar here.
20:29 <PhantomLumina> Without it, we could not mount a counter-attack.  Now, there are
20:29 <PhantomLumina> barely enough acolytes left to keep the undead at bay.
20:30 <Loggers_VIII> now that I think about it, moloch at the start of the game is probably more powerful than any of the other gods
20:30 <Loggers_VIII> lol I love how they always keep the super powerful artifact on some shmuck
20:32 <PhantomLumina> It's usually a severe blindsiding
20:33 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
20:33 <Loggers_VIII> but like, they didn't think it would be a good idea to keep the eyes of the overworld on master po? you deserve that one!
20:35 <Loggers_VIII> ugh, I want magic missile :/
20:37 <Loggers_VIII> @e?vecna
20:37 <Hecubus> Vecna (L) | Lvl: 99 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 8d6 touch cold, 6d6 touch wither, 3d4 gaze Death, 4d6 cast spell, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous
20:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Gia Mal Law), 2228 points, T:3117, zombified by a hobbit zombie
20:46 <terrapin> [while fainted from lack of food]
20:48 <Loggers_VIII> :(
21:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:70775 (9:14:21)
21:07 <Loggers_VIII> liches are so annoying to deal with, can't wait to genocide them
21:07 <Loggers_VIII> dichotomy and aesculapius both do approximately jack shit
21:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:71797 (9:22:54)
21:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Gia Fem Law), 878 points, T:2022, killed by a bugbear, while fainted from lack of food
21:12 <Loggers_VIII> do giants hunger faster or something?
21:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:71937 (9:26:16)
21:14 <Loggers_VIII> hate that guy
21:16 <PhantomLumina> Yes
21:16 <PhantomLumina> They do
21:17 <PhantomLumina> Makes early game food hunting actually kinda critical 
21:19 <Loggers_VIII> I see
21:20 <Loggers_VIII> my shambler has "engulf drown", but I'm tortle. how come I'm still getting suffocated?
21:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3139 (0:56:23)
21:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:3163 (0:56:52)
21:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:72490 (9:40:05)
21:28 <Loggers_VIII> heh, killed via drawbridge
21:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:72492 (9:40:24)
21:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:72492 (9:40:25)
21:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:72493 (9:40:26)
21:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 5975 points, T:4240, killed by a dark elven watchman
21:32 <Loggers_VIII> oh fuck, my speed helm got disintegrated and I didn't notice :(
21:32 <Loggers_VIII> I can get another one but I was really rather fond of it]
21:32 <Loggers_VIII> *deteriorated
21:32 <Loggers_VIII> or did it?
21:32 <Loggers_VIII> better check ttyrec
21:35 <terrapin> <Loggers_VIII> do giants hunger faster or something?  <-  no, I'm just an idiot
21:35 <terrapin> I mean, in a sense they and tortles do since they're a lil' slow
21:35 <terrapin> but mostly I'm just puttering about on the first dlvls too long
21:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 354 points, T:1591, killed by a large spider
21:38 <Noisytoot> is the regen hungerless?
21:38 <terrapin> yes, and it only kicks in at XL12 anyway
21:39 <Loggers_VIII> I'm seeing a message in my ttyrec "your helm falls to the maw!"
21:39 <Loggers_VIII> does anyone know what that is?
21:39 <terrapin> ???
21:40 <terrapin> oh, it's "falls to the floor"'s equivalent when engulfed
21:40 <Loggers_VIII> ahh
21:41 <Loggers_VIII> it must have happened when I poly'd from vampire lord into tortle, maybe?
21:41 <Loggers_VIII> vampire royal, rather
21:41 <Loggers_VIII> ok phew, helm is ok
21:41 <terrapin> yay!
21:45 <terrapin> so all engulfing, breath-restricting attacks are called "drowning", including gelcubes. But only those of water elementals and sea dragons are actually considered water-related
21:46 <Loggers_VIII> ah, I see. thanks
21:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 405 points, T:1711, killed by a mountain dwarf, while praying
21:46 <terrapin> i think the sequence of events was: grunthack used the eels drowning attack type to describe gelcubes' suffocation, which got ported to evil. Then sea dragons and water elementals got added at some point, and they got special-cased back into drowning attacks in the already special-cased section originally meant for gelcubes
21:46 <Loggers_VIII> hm
21:46 <Loggers_VIII> well, maybe something to poke k2 about when he gets back
21:47 <Loggers_VIII> oh, is he back tomorrow?
21:47 <terrapin> i think so
21:47 <Loggers_VIII> cool
21:48 <Loggers_VIII> man, I finally poly'd up a spellbook of magic missile, but of course it's not readable :(
21:48 <terrapin> boo
21:49 <Loggers_VIII> naturally I spent all my marker charges early trying to write it without having it ID'd :P
21:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed knnn's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3382 (0:41:50)
22:00 <Loggers_VIII> whoa, almost just died
22:00 <Loggers_VIII> walked upstairs to geryon, got instaslowed and paralyzed
22:01 <terrapin> yikes!
22:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "sdflkj", on T:3101 (0:14:33)
22:01 <Noisytoot> @e?geryon
22:01 <terrapin> you took off your free action ring again?? :P
22:01 <Hecubus> Geryon (&) | Lvl: 72 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: unique | AC: -3 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw physical, 2d8 sting drain str, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: 15 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis
22:02 <Noisytoot> how did you get paralyzed and slowed by geryon?
22:02 <Loggers_VIII> terrapin yes :)
22:02 <Loggers_VIII> noisytoot there was a shade
22:02 <Noisytoot> never take off free action
22:03 <Loggers_VIII> the game is trying to hammer this message home today
22:03 <Noisytoot> what's your other ring that's more important than free action?
22:03 <Loggers_VIII> ...slow digestion
22:03 <Loggers_VIII> if you think that sounds stupid, it's because it is
22:05 <terrapin> Loggers, free action makes you go fast! Slow digestion has slow *in the name*. How is that even a contest?1?!
22:06 <Loggers_VIII> my default character I adjust free action to is faster to press than slow digestion
22:07 <Loggers_VIII> (r for free action, L for slow digestion)
22:07 <terrapin> capital letters are faster for rings
22:07 <terrapin> all my rings are capital except conflict
22:07 <Loggers_VIII> R r though
22:07 <terrapin> ohh
22:08 <terrapin> WHY
22:08 <Loggers_VIII> uhhhhhh idk
22:08 <Loggers_VIII> :D
22:08 <terrapin> :D
22:08 <Loggers_VIII> hey, I'll have you know I took slow digestion off for levitation a bunch this game
22:08 <Loggers_VIII> ...just not when it mattered
22:09 * terrapin applauds, then stops awkwardly mid-clap
22:09 <Loggers_VIII> I have learned to min-max applause value, your half clap was worth a full one
22:10 <Loggers_VIII> which of course means that it was still half of what I got, so still subpar, so in reality it's meaningless?
22:10 <Loggers_VIII> *half of what I could have got
22:10 <terrapin> so one hand clapping is just as good as a normal clap?
22:10 <terrapin> an age-old question answered!
22:10 <Loggers_VIII> \o/
22:11 <Loggers_VIII> how the hell do you clap with one hand, anyway
22:11 <terrapin> ...and the age-old question's back!
22:12 * Loggers_VIII claps with one hand
22:12 <Loggers_VIII> like that
22:13 <terrapin> you make it look so easy
22:14 <Loggers_VIII> arghaghegajhgdjsahgd I just poly'd for another ring of free action and bumped into a shocking sphere and lost my current one >:(
22:14 <Loggers_VIII> I'm running out of rings, man
22:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) killed Geryon, on T:74587 (10:20:14)
22:15 <Loggers_VIII> whatever if there's anything I've learned from this run it's that free action is not really necessary
22:16 <PhantomLumina> Those shades seem to have other ideas
22:16 <Loggers_VIII> I have the stronger ideas
22:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:38609 (10:31:56)
22:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5301 points, T:5108, killed by a raven
22:19 <Loggers_VIII> pheewww, poly'd up another
22:20 <Loggers_VIII> idk if I ever said this, but the staff of matter was *not* a hallucination so I have been enjoying executive status over what items I get
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22:20 <Loggers_VIII> time to zoom through gehennom
22:20 <xdminsy> morning o/
22:20 <xdminsy> Seems still friday the 13th.
22:20 <Loggers_VIII> hallo o/
22:20 <terrapin> o/
22:21 <Loggers_VIII> xdminsy yep, it's still friday the 13th for about an hour and 40 minutes on the US server
22:21 <terrapin> it all depends on the server's time
22:21 <xdminsy> !who
22:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5378 (0:34:40)
22:21 <Hecubus> xdminsy: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] Splunge [evil] Loggers [evil] Disruptor [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players
22:22 <Loggers_VIII> at least, if I did the math right. I think k2's timezone is an hour ahead of my own
22:22 <xdminsy> Yes I checked the irclog.
22:22 <Loggers_VIII> cool
22:22 <xdminsy> Didn't wanna play with -1 luck.
22:23 <Loggers_VIII> yeah that must suck for drow convict
22:23 <Loggers_VIII> if you play on the eu server, it isn't friday the 13th anymore
22:24 <xdminsy> Lol yes, if I play local i'm already 10a.m. here.
22:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:75031 (10:29:22)
22:25 <Loggers_VIII> hah wow
22:25 <Loggers_VIII> almost a 12 hour difference, it's around 10 PM here
22:26 <Loggers_VIII> damn you lolth why you cancel my dragonbane >:(
22:26 <Loggers_VIII> oh well now it's +5 instead of +4 so it worked out
22:31 <Loggers_VIII> hm, maybe I will polymorph into a cockatrice and lay a bunch of eggs, and then throw them at orcus
22:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7145 (0:51:45)
22:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:75869 (10:44:35)
22:42 <xdminsy> How did you kill Orcus?
22:42 <Loggers_VIII> I turned into a balrog to fight him
22:42 <xdminsy> @e?balrog
22:42 <Loggers_VIII> I threw 10 cockatrice eggs, and one of them almost stoned him, but it wasn't enough
22:42 <Hecubus> balrog (&) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -2 | Atk: 8d4 weapon physical, 4d6 weapon physical | Align: -14 | flies, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis
22:42 <Loggers_VIII> @e?orcus
22:42 <Hecubus> Orcus (&) | Lvl: 66 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -6 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical, 3d4 claw wither, 6d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting drain str | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis
22:43 <Loggers_VIII> I don't think resistance to death magic shows up on pinobot
22:43 <xdminsy> That could prevent the lost of max hp?
22:43 <Loggers_VIII> I had less HP when I reformed, so I'm not sure
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22:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:38900 (6:51:58)
22:55 <terrapin> weird...
22:56 <terrapin> i was messing with balrogs and orcus because i've used the same strategy and never had issues with HP loss, in my first test i had -88 HP when i unpolyd? but since then i haven't lost a single point
23:00 <terrapin> well, this wouldn't cause that, but...
23:01 <terrapin> touch of death hp drain is a little wacky
23:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a giant ant corpse on an altar of Tymora, on T:11520 (1:24:39)
23:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:11756 (1:28:46)
23:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) destroyed Splunge's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:11873 (1:29:47)
23:25 <xdminsy> Meh, why Con Dwa god is Tymora.
23:26 <xdminsy> Seems drow's god is Lolth.
23:27 <xdminsy> Is this god Lolth the same as that one in gehennom?
23:36 <PhantomLumina> Yes.
23:36 <PhantomLumina> Also Tymora is the default chaotic goddess for that pantheon.
23:37 <PhantomLumina> Lolth is a case of some Adjustments being made for drow specifically.
23:37 <terrapin> drow always get a special pantheon
23:37 <PhantomLumina> Drow always get Ellistrae, Lolth and another deity I can't recall
23:40 <xdminsy> I see.
23:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Hea Cen Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:45346 (11:58:06)