00:00 "I meant to say, just because things are classified a certain way in the code, doesn't mean it makes intuitive sense from a player perspective" 00:01 * tinklebear has died on that hill before, as well 00:03 Dingotron2: RE the lance: I made it at a forge. Mithril is very light and durable, and I don't think a gemstone lance is possible (since it isn't a dwarven item) 00:04 if I were trying to eke out the most damage, then glass is good but a little heavier (and likely requires a wish), and silver (vs gehennom bosses) is much heavier and a naked succubus would be unable to wield it 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a club entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:22920 (6:16:38) 00:05 dammit hermes 00:06 i've gotten more gifts than points of luck 00:07 hermes might feel the same way, terrapin 00:08 "sigh, more of this gift exchange nonsense." 00:09 heh 00:11 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:23422 (6:22:18) 00:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:69451 (1 day, 20:04:44) 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 9833 points, T:8566, killed by a bugbear, while frozen by a potion 00:26 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:24079 (6:36:57) 00:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2297 (0:13:52) 00:56 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2722 (0:16:54) 01:06 -!- Dingotron2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:56685 (14:43:45) 01:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:56705 (14:44:19) 01:21 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 210 points, T:1647, killed by a flint stone 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 6177 points, T:5045, killed by a gnome lady, while praying 01:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 01:43 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:51 Just got engulfed by a sea dragon for a few turns whilst wearing slow digestion 01:51 Isn't that not meant to happen? 01:55 sea dragons don't digest you, they suffocate you 01:55 Oh 01:56 Got sunsword out of the little sparring match on my life regardless 01:56 nice! 01:56 Shame the only forged artifact I can make is useless 01:56 can you do glamdring? 01:57 sunsword's pretty decent for a fair number of enemies 01:57 Hmm 01:57 Is it better than a +6 SED? 01:59 1d3 + 1d20 + 6 = 19.5 vs. (1d8 + 3 + 6ish) x 2 = 27 for a well-enchanted sunsword vs. vampires 01:59 even better, comparably, vs other undead 01:59 Oh nice 02:00 I imagine it'd be slightly worse when factoring in damage penalties 02:00 basic vs expert 02:00 But should be enough 02:00 true, daggers would get +3 for 22.5 02:01 and if accuracy is a concern then more skill is important. but with the Hand and 20 dex you're probably fine 02:02 Aye 02:02 Could even make the hammer 02:02 But that's probably too much of a penalty 02:02 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 02:02 yeah 02:03 would probably be better to use demonbane on its own if you really want its antidemon properties 02:03 then you still have sunsword 02:03 Ye, it's surprisingly useful 02:03 Chopped up the balrog guarding wizard's tower 02:03 plus, light for astral jumping :) 02:04 Ye, can use my magic lamp's wish now 02:04 It was way too useful when clearing out Vecna's lair 02:04 But now have another source 02:07 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:64413 (1 day, 4:30:59) 02:13 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 788 points, T:4335, killed by a giant bat 02:14 @e?giant bat 02:14 giant bat (B) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 22 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 7 | Atk: 1d6 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, infravis 02:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:71539 (1 day, 21:56:50) 02:17 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 42 points, T:264, killed by a goblin 02:17 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 16 points, T:20, killed by a fox 02:23 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 21 points, T:413, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 02:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:50 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4415 (0:30:37) 02:56 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4641 (0:32:40) 03:14 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Lolth, on T:103286 (4 days, 22:18:50) 03:54 Well after 10k turns, I got a wand of striking but the chest in goblin town is empty. 03:54 Emmm, isn't that at least a cookbook is guranteed? 04:11 you mean the chest in one of the prisons? 04:11 Yes. 04:12 ok, strange... was the chest locked? 04:12 No, I think maybe somebody picked it up. 04:12 But I killed all peaceful monsters.. 04:12 Maybe he fall down, but I have iron ball so can't go down I think. 04:13 yeah that's what I thought too 04:15 https://ibb.co/1ZYnwrK 04:16 Meh really unease start, I'm already level 8 and finally let a nymph stole my ball.. 04:16 I can now to check if there's a cookbook lol. 04:16 woohoo finally! 04:17 I think I need to pause and watch some of your ttyrecs. 04:17 I see you never reach 100k turns in evilhack lol. 04:18 That's very impressive and maybe 5 strikes I see. 04:20 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:12097 (1:56:57) 04:21 Lol I see, there's a kobold lady carry the war hammer and acid. 04:23 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:12195 (1:59:52) 04:27 Does a cursed The One Ring functions well? 04:30 yeah, you just won't be able to remove it 04:30 YASI: Potions of light should be available to lighten whatever you dip into it. 04:32 in the past, 100k+ turn games were pretty uncommon, only rebatela did that really 04:33 maybe it's because of all the altar camping to get artifacts to forge with? 04:34 Then I think is worth wearing the one ring. 04:34 my recent games are all Infidel, I pretty much only want to forge the staff of the archmagi really... 04:34 Maybe yes, almost time I'm farming for Dragonbane and Sword of Annihilation... 04:35 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:65105 (1 day, 5:15:33) 04:35 Know little about infidel lol, may try next time. 04:36 I think the reflection is very important in early game, my yesterday con dro is died to dwarf with /olightning, and i have only 60 hp. 04:37 yep, 100k turns mostly for forged artifacts 04:37 MR and reflection, yes 04:37 reflection less needed if you can get crowned early 04:37 Yes, I think I should crown early. 04:38 This game I'd preserve the neutral altar, if i'd be lucky to survive. 04:38 And that's scary in evilhack to convert altar, I remember once a Angel with /oDeath. 04:42 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:65607 (1 day, 5:22:29) 04:45 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:46 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:14256 (2:22:51) 04:49 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:66346 (1 day, 5:29:12) 04:56 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a steel spear entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:66899 (1 day, 5:37:08) 05:04 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gauntlets of protection entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:67577 (1 day, 5:44:49) 05:16 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:16842 (2:52:52) 05:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:34 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a gnoll hunter corpse, on T:17517 (8:52:02) 05:39 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:40 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 05:41 !who 05:41 xdminsy: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] xdminsy [evil] :: [hdf-au] Arahael [evil] 05:43 "You hear an enraged bellow nearby!"? 05:44 likely a bear in a bear trap 05:45 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:47 Interesting. 05:47 I had immobalised an ettin, would htat have been it? 05:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 141621 points, T:19097, killed by a saber-toothed tiger 05:51 Got overconfident. Badd. 05:54 saber-toothed tiger is pretty dangerous 05:57 It was either that or do the quest. 05:57 I had run out of things to do. 05:57 (And I hate grinding) 05:57 I also had no food for ages and was getting tired of constantly praying for it. :) 06:04 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:05 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:08 I hate grinding too, bu I'm already 20k turns and haven't go down level 5 :P 06:08 @e?saber-toothed tiger 06:08 saber-toothed tiger (f) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 14 | Res: cold | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 3d4 claw physical, 3d4 claw physical, 4d4 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, thick hide, infravis 06:09 @lastgame arahael 06:09 !lastgame arahael 06:09 xdminsy: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1600586690.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1696508314.evil.html 06:10 Ah i see, maybe you should go castle, ice queen's realm is so dangerous.. 06:11 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:21 The only way I had to cross medusa's waters was a single potion of levitation. 06:22 And there was no safe spot to dig. 06:23 no scroll of earth? 06:24 I totally forgot about that. 06:25 If I don't feel strong enough, I just get the wishing wand and level port back as soon as I can. Don't go back until i'm in top shape. 06:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:673 (0:03:23) 06:26 Right, but I couldn't get down. At least I didn't think I could. Will have to remember the earth next time. 06:26 I usually save those until the quest, though. 06:27 Oooh, a new goblin king level. Was nice doing that and not knowing where the king was. 06:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gnomish wizards), on T:717 (0:04:41) 06:28 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:808 (0:05:16) 06:35 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 06:40 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:46 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 07:06 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:15 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 07:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:125763 (2 days, 0:38:26) 07:48 wtf I see that Loggers did a 311,446 turns ascension in july 07:48 what! 07:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 07:48 krm26 looking positively speedy in second place with 154,664 07:48 morning 07:49 Ah I summoned Loggers 07:49 lemme read logs 07:49 oh, yeah. That was that time I got the 8 ball wish 07:49 Morning loggers. 07:49 ah! lol 07:49 hi xdminsy o/ 07:50 o/ 07:50 that was legitimate psychological torture 07:50 A damned tengu in sokoban picked up a wand of striking and break one boulder.. 07:50 damn, you actuall got an 8-ball wish! 07:51 Lol mobileuser yes, loggers used to tell me just 300s to altar camping. 07:51 Then I just do that too. 07:51 Man, it feels like an eternity just doing 100k. 07:54 my games are almost always in the mid-100,000s -- i'm not as interested after the midgame and spend a lot of time doing useless minigame activities instead of trying to ascend 07:54 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:56 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 07:57 The first time I got the 8 ball it only took 20k turns, I was not prepared :P 08:00 @e?shopkeeper 08:00 shopkeeper (@) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: special | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 08:11 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:17 long discussion in the logs about "restore ability" 08:18 I just googled that in D&D, attributes are called abilities 08:19 maybe that's why it's named "restore ability", but I can see why it can be confusing 08:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:21 yeah lots of logs to read through today 08:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Venus, on T:127074 (2 days, 1:26:38) 08:27 starting to think that dragonbane already exists in the game buried in the ground somewhere 08:32 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:32 eat some wraiths 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1382 (0:06:37) 08:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had 20 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2219 (1:39:08) 08:55 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 5785 points, T:2431, killed by a warg, while praying 09:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1019 (0:04:21) 09:01 oooooo marker 09:01 nice 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1354 (0:06:46) 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5009 points, T:4156, quit 09:06 wait, what killed gollum? wasn't me 09:06 maybe a piranha got him? 09:06 Ha. Kicked a tree. Got bees. went up three XP levels in one encounter. 09:06 lol 09:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law), 553 points, T:1084, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping 09:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1485 (0:19:29) 09:18 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:20 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2356 (0:12:23) 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3136 points, T:2748, killed by a warg 09:32 the wargs are on the hunt today 09:36 !lastgame nightsorrow 09:36 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nightsorrow/evilhack/dumplog/1696996284.evil.html 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1489 points, T:2114, killed by a dwarf zombie 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:4809 (0:26:12) 09:44 yay, orctown! 09:49 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:50 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:54 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:55 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:59 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 10:00 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering an orc shaman corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:6390 (0:45:38) 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 13136 points, T:6504, killed by a horned devil of Moloch 10:03 doh 10:03 cocky! 10:04 didnt feel like running away and coming back later i guess 10:04 "run away and come back later" is not one of my more oft-employed strategies 10:05 @?water elemental 10:05 water elemental (E) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 6 | Res: poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 5d6 claw physical | Align: 0 | swims, amphibious, breathless, mindless, unsolid, passes-bars, vegan 10:05 @e?water elemental 10:05 water elemental (E) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 6 | Res: poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 5d6 claw physical, 4d4 engulf wrap, 0d0 passive rust | Align: 0 | swims, amphibious, breathless, mindless, unsolid, passes-bars, vegan 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1901 points, T:4130, killed by the Goblin King 10:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:10 @h?water elemental 10:10 water elemental (E) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 6 | Res: poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 5d6 claw physical, 0d0 passive rust | Align: 0 | swims, amphibious, breathless, mindless, unsolid, passes-bars, vegan 10:14 -!- Dingotron2 has joined #evilhack 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2385 (0:19:05) 10:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:43 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:69636 (1 day, 7:38:46) 10:44 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:69972 (1 day, 7:40:27) 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:129473 (2 days, 3:52:42) 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5301 (0:45:40) 10:51 @?zruty 10:51 zruty (z) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 8 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Atk: 3d4 claw physical, 3d4 claw physical, 3d6 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, infravis 10:51 @e?zruty 10:51 zruty (z) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 claw physical, 3d6 claw knockback | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, infravis 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 388 points, T:1558, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 10:55 @l?zruty 10:55 zruty (Y) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 8 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: dungeons | AC: 3 | Atk: 3d4 claw physical, 3d4 claw physical, 3d6 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, infravis 11:11 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 11:14 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a paper golem, on T:30917 (6:08:08) 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2300 (0:25:19) 11:18 -!- bug_sniper has joined #evilhack 11:18 Holy a troll with wand of polyrmoph. 11:19 Later all my armors dropped on land and he polymorphed them all. 11:26 !tell arahael what would you do with a lightened piece of equipment? 11:26 I'm on it, bug_sniper. 11:28 @e?zruty 11:28 zruty (z) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 claw physical, 3d6 claw knockback | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, infravis 11:28 @h?zruty 11:28 zruty (Y) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 claw physical, 3d6 claw knockback | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, infravis 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2336 (0:26:25) 11:33 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:34 Jesus, and the last boulder seems to be polymorphed as well, what the hell. 11:34 Why the unnethack sokoban levels, boulders won't be more than holes. 11:35 But there's monster using striking, teleportation or polymorph that will ruin boulders. 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Sam Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 silver darts on an altar, on T:3111 (0:33:55) 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3141 (0:34:31) 11:42 xdminsy I've never seen a troll spawn in Sokoban's main area whilst I'm doing the puzzle, much less with a powerful wand 11:43 damn made level 20 on pure experience before getting dragonbane to drop 11:43 Must've gotten really unlucky 11:43 Yes, cuz I play petless con dro, I'd often be already level 10 when doing sokoban. 11:43 because of sokoban's wand generation it is fairly common to a monster zap striking 11:44 that's what the guaranteed earth is for 11:44 Ah 11:44 I made a mistake on level one and used one, and a tengu on level two striked one boulder :P 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Sam Dwa Mal Law), 3282 points, T:3493, killed by a piranha 11:46 Yes, but nethack sokoban leave more boulders on every level. 11:46 Depends on what variant you get 11:46 I've had sokoban runs where I've have 0 spare boulders 11:47 on all levels 11:47 and some where there are 2 boulders spare on 2 or 3 levels 11:48 In vanilla every map will have spare boulders. 11:49 Except evilhack i don't have played any other variants. 11:49 Evilhack uses sokoban maps from unnethack I think. Occasionally there are minor variations 11:50 EvilHack uses maps from several variants 11:50 Un, Grunt, SLASH'EM, etc. 11:50 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a javelin entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:70726 (1 day, 8:46:10) 11:50 Yes, I see that in the wiki. 11:51 I think sokoban should better provide spare boulders like nethack, this is not a real sokoban game, cannot restart level :P 11:52 Like there's no fault tolerance for newcomers to complete level without fail in one go. 11:52 That's what's the wiki is for 11:52 ppl who are either new to sokoban, or cba to work it out 11:53 *that's what 11:54 Some of the added levels do, some don't. It's a matter of luck 11:54 Not a big deal, now I have only -2 AC and no boulder to complete sokoban. 11:54 Don't know what to do next :P 11:55 Lol it's nearly okay to obtain my sokoban amulet but. 11:56 Well completing the main branch and farming a scroll 11:56 sounds like your only option 11:56 or restarting and hope for better luck next time 11:57 Restarting Con Dro is a pain if not to just quaff fountains on level one :P 11:57 Lol, maybe just wander goblin town for a while. 12:00 Sunsword got to +7 on the first round of scrolls 12:00 Gonna feel good to use an artifact for once 12:00 instead of SED 12:00 What is SED? 12:00 silver elven dagger 12:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:00 Lol okay. 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1397967 points, T:106377, killed while stuck in creature form 12:03 !lastgame 12:03 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1696960274.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1695870188.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1697019771.evil.html 12:03 !lastgame tinklebear 12:03 Imanity: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1695870188.evil.html 12:04 Caught by an evil ki-rin. 12:04 unfortunate 12:04 Why was he playing as a succubus tho? 12:05 was wearing unchanging 12:05 Some kind of a conduct? 12:05 There's only a conduct not to polyself 12:06 But succubus seems like an odd polyform to choose 12:06 Maybe roleplay? 12:06 Oh I see 12:06 He's trying nudist conduct 12:06 nethack ERP somehow is not the first explanation I'd think of :P 12:06 xD 12:06 Maybe personal unoffical conduct. 12:07 No, it's an official one 12:07 oh yeah tinklebear plays nudist 12:07 Surprised he got so far as nudist 12:07 still, why be succubus? 12:07 Donno. 12:07 well he may have left a fantastic level 4 bones 12:07 oooh ooh tha'ts for me! 12:07 brb 12:07 Who's gonna be the first to grab it? xD 12:07 I think he just wanna be a succubus. 12:08 If you wanna mcfucking die, then sure. 12:08 thats what I thought too xminsy 12:08 *xdminsy 12:08 Also, foocubi have 0 base AC. 12:08 But vampires are better 12:08 yeah, that level 4 will be no joke, will have to skip it until much later in game 12:08 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 12:09 probably at least 6 general autodeath monsters around that altar :-) 12:09 And it's a room just east of the downstair. 12:09 Ha here comes our succubus. 12:09 tinklebear: yo what happened 12:09 mr-less conduct 12:09 doors closed, can probably run from upstairs to downstairs without getting crushed -- if you recognize the level 12:09 Ah so it was unofficial 12:10 we're talking about the awesome bones you just left tinklebear 12:10 * tinklebear figured :D 12:10 if I don't get the bones, can I start a new character to try and get it or is it gone forever 12:10 The lethal bones. 12:10 The bones are only deleted once loaded. 12:11 ok 12:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 265 points, T:613, killed by a falling object 12:12 but it might not have even left bones 12:13 s'okay, I'll make more 12:13 Preferably lower in the dungeon. 12:13 :D 12:13 heh 12:13 it is 100% impossible to ascend mr-less conduct tho 12:13 what's the chance to leave bones 12:13 How to do mr-less? 12:13 Doubtful on that. 12:13 be more careful than I was 12:13 Have no idea. 12:14 never use something that gives you mr or poly into something that gives you mr i would guess 12:14 Resistances go a long way, and being a demon or undead solves the touch of death problem. 12:14 eventually something will touch of death you 12:14 gauntlets of purity exists, so that's nice 12:14 Don't they get reverted? 12:14 it is definitely not impossible 12:14 i suppose with poly control and an infinite supply of life saving 12:14 imanity, I don't mean in bones 12:15 Oh 12:15 and there are things one could do to make it much, much easier, than I think sound like fun 12:15 I mean their existence is nice for mr-less in general cause death res 12:15 Ye 12:15 like, wield grayswandir while hallucinating 12:16 lame 12:16 not gonna do that 12:16 lame 12:16 totally 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to her by Venus, on T:131938 (2 days, 5:19:11) 12:17 well, you can have fun getting touch of death'd I guess 12:17 I did 12:17 honestly, should just do permahallucinating 12:17 then you can use grayswandir 12:17 but that is sooo lame 12:17 also, it ends the permahallu conduct 12:17 so, you'd need to use potions 12:17 but, like I said, lame 12:18 using potions is lamer 12:18 how? 12:18 how so? 12:18 because challenges are lame or something? 12:18 tinklebear, I hate to tell you this, but using potions of hallucination in that manner is not challenging 12:19 prove it, Loggers_VIII 12:19 to get them you either farm or wish, both of which are boring and have no challenge involved; to use them you just quaff them before you think you might get touch of death'd, and rely on RNG to not get unhallucinated and then instakilled, there's no skill involved 12:19 getting the potions is not the challenge, Loggers_VIII 12:20 read the second half of the message? 12:20 playing the game while hallucinating (and not half-ass grayswandiring it) is 12:20 there's not much RNG involved 12:20 then just do permahallu 12:20 I do that too 12:20 I didn't notice it in your dump, does it not mention? 12:21 not that game, but I've played many permahallu games. in evil, and in tnnt 12:21 ah, I thought you meant in that game 12:22 in that game, i used potions in the early game 12:22 permahallu is kind of boring, I tried it once 12:22 * tinklebear disagrees that it is boring 12:22 I like it 12:22 well, not boring to look at, certainly :P 12:22 I also like trying other ways 12:23 and I think there are interesting confluences between nudist and MR-less needs 12:23 man, tortle is nudist enough for m 12:23 e 12:23 at least, I think the path I was taking was an interesting one. just got a little careless 12:24 was that eldritch A random spawn 12:24 looked like you teleported right into its mouth 12:24 I uncontrolled levelported from the castle, trying to escape it and the nasties it had summoned 12:25 And unfortunately most of them followed you. 12:25 ahh, couldn't make distance before the teleport 12:25 Umbire: nope. just the evil ki-rin 12:25 unfortunate 12:25 it is the way most games end! 12:26 a lapse in caution 12:26 yup 12:27 complacency 12:27 playing nudist MR-less is a lapse in caution of its own, lol 12:27 if you can ascend it, maybe k2 will make MR less official 12:27 he should do that regardless, imo 12:27 but I'll keep trying! 12:27 he seems averse to it because he thinks no one will beat it, and I'm inclined to agree 12:27 no reason not to add conducts for the crazies 12:28 I think it's pretty cool krm26 12:28 the sheer volume of spell-casting nasties makes such a game completely unsustainable in evil, imo 12:28 Nudist conduct is pretty insane even for vanilla 12:28 Nice to see it's possible in evilhack 12:28 nudist is fun 12:29 Loggers_VIII If he thinks no one will beat it, why not add anyway? 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