00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:78797 (20:45:02) 00:25 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #evilhack 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Kni Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:79886 (21:12:01) 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Kni Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:79889 (21:12:14) 00:30 -!- dingotron has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:34 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:80518 (21:27:02) 00:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:55428 (1 day, 6:24:07) 00:55 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:56 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 01:03 -!- bugsniper_ is now known as bug_sniper 01:21 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 01:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a dark elven long sword bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:82157 (22:19:14) 01:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:18 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:28 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:31 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:26 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 03:34 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1839 (1:16:39) 03:52 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:7407 (6:15:28) 04:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:7845 (6:23:28) 04:11 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:37 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 70 points, T:411, killed by a goblin 04:39 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "fireproof marker", on T:94856 (4 days, 11:02:35) 04:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9864 (7:03:58) 04:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:45 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:58 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2258 (0:19:52) 05:13 A very easy start that a wand of polymorph on level 1 and the rat became baby shadow dragon. 05:16 Nice 05:16 You polymorphed the iron ball too I take it? 05:16 Can it be polymorphed? 05:17 I use the hammer in goblin town. 05:17 Cuz the pet is very strong, so I won't lose hp. 05:17 I mean I imagine 05:18 Tried in wizard mode, seems the iron ball cannot be polymorphed. 05:18 And I tried selfpoly, seems only becoming some limited monsters can remove the iron chain. 05:19 Yeah I wasn't gonna suggest self-poly for that reasaon 05:19 s/reasaon/reason 05:19 Guessing it's an object type deal where the ball literally can't be turned into anything else 05:22 Yes, a good pet is enough, I could only to kill those nearly harmless monster to gain expierence. 05:22 Mainly grid bugs and lichens. 05:39 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:44 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:50 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 06:00 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:13 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:16 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:09 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:32 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 07:35 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:52 Seriously. I went all the way back to the caslte to put on ring of hunger 07:52 and still satiated 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 10644 points, T:10823, killed by a piranha 08:10 can't put barding on a pseudodragon :-( 08:10 You should be able to 08:10 Is it fully grown? 08:14 no, is that the problem? 08:14 Yeah 08:14 ah, thx! 08:14 only ancient pseudodragons can be barded and saddled 08:14 TIL 08:14 xD 08:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law), 41766 points, T:17288, killed by a carnivorous ape, while frozen by a potion 08:23 !lastgame dbanethacker 08:23 k3ut0i: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1696774950.evil.html 08:23 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law), 156 points, T:348, killed by a grid bug, while frozen by a potion 08:23 hah, dbanethacker's having bad luck with those para potions 08:23 yep 08:24 why isn't he wearing free action? 08:24 idk, did he have it? 08:24 he did in ape death one. 08:25 it might not have been identified 08:25 yeah, that might be it. how can a ape hug and crush a giant!!! 08:26 hm, I thought giants were exempt from being bearhugged like that 08:26 hahaha, I got his ape bones right now! 08:26 that was quick 08:26 lol 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Joshu, on T:18681 (2:31:48) 08:27 Finally a magic lamp 08:27 Almost 60k turns in 08:27 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 08:27 the lamp 08:28 is also cursed :) 08:28 a cursed lamp is as good as a blessed one 60k turns in 08:28 I need the light tho 08:29 and am about 4 stages away from my stash 08:29 just uncurse it then 08:29 Don't carry holy water on hand 08:29 too heavy 08:29 At least I do the final dive to the wizard 08:29 don't you have the eye? 08:30 Yeah, but have to walk back 08:30 Up to 2k invocation ignore time 08:30 you don't carry holy water?? 08:30 I get away with carrying 40 and not being burdened 08:30 I play illithid and really low on wishes 08:30 wish for the GoP, it's worth it 08:30 Gotta play for the hand of vecna dream 08:31 wait what happened to your other run where you killed vecna 08:31 2k invocation ignore time? 08:31 tiamat summoned 3 demon lords 08:31 oh yeahhh 08:31 lolth, demo and 1 other 08:31 fun times xD 08:31 Tiamat is always doing that, is it because she is fast, or has more attacks? 08:31 you typically only need to wait like 200 turns between invocations 08:32 Ye, but it's up to 2k turns 08:32 very infrequently 08:32 I think it's because she's immune to all magic and elements 08:32 there are so many teleportation scrolls, how do you use them? 08:32 I can't melee her down enough 08:32 I only have 3 spare 08:33 That's enough of a number to be comfortable with escaping 08:33 a wizard can use sunsword on her 08:33 forge glamdring, unlock skill, profit 08:34 Don't have sunsword 08:34 silver darts or daggers will work too 08:34 She keeps jumping around though 08:34 Even when stairs are blocked 08:34 be patient. boulder fort, silver missile weapons 08:34 Maybe I just carry dozens of silver missiles 08:34 I mean, you can always just forge like 100 silver shuriken 08:34 the d20s add up 08:34 ye 08:34 silver shuriken are the BEST, and so easy to make 08:35 Will if I encounter her again 08:35 they are good for lucifer too 08:35 though honestly you can just use like a +7 quarterstaff and that's enough 08:35 Acid is better on lucifer 08:36 I was using +6 silver elven dagger 08:36 Wasn't enough 08:36 you used a stack of 9 08:36 that's nothing 08:36 I don't know what you expected 08:36 oh you mean in melee? 08:36 Yeah 08:36 yeah idk what to say that feels like enough :P 08:36 Felt like she summoned demo uber quick 08:37 was downhill from there 08:37 I mean, yeah. unlucky :( 08:37 but with potions of paralysis and a silver weapon she's really not a big deal 08:37 every time I melee Tiamat, graz'zt appeared. Only in my knight games I deal with her in melee. 08:37 Didn't have a ring of free action. Only shield 08:37 lol I be fighting her with the staff of aesculapius and shit 08:38 Lol 08:38 xD 08:38 Imanity: why are you fighting demon princes without free action? 08:38 that is an extremely good question 08:38 No ring 08:38 if yeenoghu appears you are FUCKED 08:38 polypile 08:38 orange scales 08:38 Polypileless 08:38 I would lose reflection 08:38 see this is why conducts are silly 08:38 Conducts are fun 08:38 you don't need reflection 08:38 You learn from each mistake 08:38 reflection is not importatin 08:39 Maybe I could've swapped to it 08:39 for her 08:39 I learn from my mistakes whether I force them upon myself or not 08:39 orange scales are probably better 08:39 ye 08:39 have you seen which final demon boss you have? 08:40 Not yet 08:40 First is Baphomet 08:40 Easy 08:40 if it's any of the other one's you'll be fine 08:40 what's your hp/ac now 08:41 Yeah, she's the only one immune ot magic 08:41 133/486/ -25 08:41 No enchants 08:41 I need to kill Vecna first 08:41 well apart from on weapon 08:41 graz'zt has a shield of reflection, so make sure to use AoE spells if you get him 08:41 don't melee baphomet he'll kick your ass 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:4449 (0:44:29) 08:42 @e?baphomet 08:42 Baphomet (&) | Lvl: 54 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: unique | AC: -4 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw physical, 2d6 cast clerical, 8d6 butt knockback | Align: -15 | flies, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 08:42 I'll just acid blast him 08:42 as any good wizard should :) 08:42 Using the very few scrolls of enchant armor when I kill this lich 08:42 133 HP is still really low, are you planning to nurse dance anytime soon? 08:42 If I get any magic markers 08:43 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4541 (0:45:39) 08:43 how many wishes do you have left 08:43 Have 2 wishes guaranteed left. May need to spend one on GoP, and dragonhide speed boots 08:44 you don't have very fast speed? 08:44 I do 08:44 My boots just aren't dragonhide 08:44 that's a luxury wish 08:44 It means I can't cast fire 08:44 A lich already did that to my gloves 08:44 fireproof them? 08:44 Low on scrolls 08:45 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of spider silk gloves entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:61776 (1 day, 2:39:13) 08:45 one scroll of destroy armor left 08:45 congrats, use it 08:45 LADY!!! really, I'm level 21 and have dragonbane 08:45 or wish for a marker 08:45 I can't keep doing that 08:45 marker gets you fireproof stuff and HP that won't get killed 08:45 yes, you can 08:45 there is no reason you can't 08:45 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:50 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:51 oh imanity, do you know about the repair armor spell? 08:51 Yeah, but my fire can cast up to 9 times 08:51 if you write one, you can repair all your armor infinitely (so it doesn't need to be fooproof) 08:51 That will decimate my armor 08:52 I have a solution you may no want to hear: don't cast advanced fireball on yourself 08:52 *not 08:52 Oftentimes, that's not possible 08:52 then cast cone of cold? 08:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:3106 (0:28:44) 08:52 You need to cast it where there's the highest concentration of mobs 08:52 Most in gehennom are immune 08:52 then cast acid blast 08:53 Often not effective against vampires 08:53 well as effective as fireball 08:53 ohmygod then BEAT THEM TO DEATH 08:53 :P 08:53 Vampire mages will fill up the map with nasties 08:53 before that happens 08:53 then cast it, not as an advanced spell :) 08:53 Not enough dmg 08:53 yes it is 08:54 advanced spells are so good 08:54 because they can hit so many times 08:54 I know they are, I used to play a lot of wiz 08:54 but you are making problems for yourself where the solution is to not make problems 08:55 Scrolls are always in short supply 08:55 I want everything dragonhide 08:56 hitting someone with the non basic fireball spell is still 12d6, and vampire mages are vulnerable to fire; 1/2 of those is more than enough for a vamp mage 08:56 you are the pickiest conduct player I have ever seen 08:57 If you get lucky 08:57 This is just basic strategy 08:57 Is the door to Vecna's lair random? I'm searching in the area it says on the map 08:57 and nothing is being found 08:57 it's in a random spot on the level below votd 08:58 I mean the door to her area 08:58 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/dat/vecna.des 08:58 On final map 08:58 IF [50%] { 08:58 DOOR:locked,(11,01) 08:58 only 50% chance 08:59 Fuck 08:59 there's a drawbridge on the left side 08:59 so drawbridge is the only way 08:59 yeah you'll have to take the long way :/ 08:59 If I blast it, I have a chance to die 08:59 Back to castle ig :/ 08:59 you can blast it diagonally 08:59 that's safe 08:59 Won't the iron portcullis hit me? 09:00 that's what happened last game, and it says it just missed me 09:00 Not enough room on this map to outrange it 09:00 only on the "open" or "closed" squares 09:00 so only on the squares where the drawbridge can be, says the wiki 09:01 I'll check in wizard mode a few times 09:01 iron chains get scattered, which can hit you but are not an instakill 09:01 I've striking'd that bridge every time so if there is a chance to die I am more lucky than I know I am 09:03 yeah seems fine 09:03 there is a secret door, if you can burn or cut down the trees. 09:03 Thats where I normally enter 09:03 k3ut0i, it's only a 50% chance of existing 09:03 Oh. didn't know that 09:04 yeah, no thing happens when striking drawbridge diagonally 09:04 nothing* 09:04 ye 09:05 I was absolutely terrified when I tried that on vecna the first time, lol 09:05 Lol, me too. too much trauma from drawbridges. 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4038 (0:42:00) 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6764 (1:11:02) 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed mithril amulet of magic resistance", on T:4084 (0:47:10) 09:11 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (electric eels), on T:6943 (1:13:47) 09:12 heh, what are goblin outriders doing hangin around vecna 09:12 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 09:13 Ikr xD 09:14 ooh that's a sneaky little strat 09:14 Yep, so op 09:14 Gotta go through this area again tho 09:14 with ton of mobs 09:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:58243 (1 day, 8:25:01) 09:18 \o/ 09:18 I think the item would've been lost if it fell into lava 09:18 yay hand 09:18 omg I got the hand 09:18 my game is saved xD 09:19 no, the item is indestructible, so you can dig it outta lava 09:19 there used to be a bug where he wouldn't drop it if you killed him over lava, that fucked me over a few times 09:19 Ah 09:20 Hungerless regen, sickness resist, giant strength, half physical 09:20 Perfect for wizard 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:7619 (1:23:35) 09:21 yeah wizards love the hand 09:21 Our artifact already provides 2/3 of the benefits 09:21 From the eye 09:22 heh on Vecna I've always first opened the bridge diagonally and then destroyed it from a safe distance 09:22 yep 09:22 hahaha mobileuser 09:22 paranoid 09:22 Ah, with opening/knock 09:22 yeah 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 12588 points, T:3370, quit 09:22 that at least feels like a really smart thing to do, tbh 09:23 and even then I try to wear life saving when I do :-P 09:24 nabru why quit 09:24 Loggers_VIII: foodpois + had just prayed 09:24 ah 09:26 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:62862 (1 day, 3:21:02) 09:27 :| well atleast club is unrestricted 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:19241 (2:47:26) 09:28 I think there was a discussion about artifact aklys? 09:28 it got scrapped 09:28 Oh, what happened? 09:29 k2 thought there were too many artifacts already, he wasn't feeling it 09:29 I will never stop begging him to make keolewa an aklys 09:29 someday, he will crack 09:29 lol 09:30 yeah, there are already like 3 throwing artifacts. 09:30 are there? I thought it was just hotg 09:30 Xiucoatl, mojo 09:30 and the archaeologist artifact, but only arcs can through that 09:30 and mojo's only for valks 09:31 *only arcs can throw 09:31 I think with 21 dex every one can throw 09:31 oh really? cool 09:34 ugh, I really need genocide 09:35 blocked by a black dragon on the quest 09:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) stole 440 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Chibougamau's general store, on T:19539 (2:57:18) 09:38 How will you get disint resistance? 09:38 for antimatter vortexes 09:38 I won't 09:38 xd 09:38 I don't plan on seeing an antimatter vortex 09:38 there are still snarks and bjooms 09:39 Yeah but you need to eat 20 09:39 it's all well and good to go genoless as wiz when you can point a finger at anything you want to kill but as tortle healer? fuck that 09:39 antimatter vortices are goooone 09:39 well, they will be :) 09:39 Didnt know you could geno them too 09:40 yep 09:40 you don't need complete resist too, as long as you are not instakilled, you can manage 09:41 ah 09:41 my normal genocides for tortle healer include: 09:41 black dragons 09:41 orange dragons 09:41 antimatter vortices 09:41 beholders 09:41 mind flayers 09:41 master mind flayers 09:41 green slimes 09:41 liches 09:41 demiliches 09:41 master liches 09:41 arch-liches 09:41 alhoons 09:41 orange dragons? 09:41 i like to blessed L and if i get lucky and get master and arch, stop, otherwise 2nd blessed L 09:41 getting slowed as tortle is death and I don't trust myself not to fatfinger into meleeing one 09:42 yeah, missing turns as tortle is a nightmare :( 09:42 I may also genocide gray dragons or giant centipedes depending on my current mood 09:44 with non-casters i like to genocide gray dragons to avoid cancelling myself when they are unavoidable (part of a nasty storm); black dragons only if i don't have dragonbane or soa. but green slimes are always an EXCELLENT genocide, f those guys 09:44 and beholders are a new must to protect your pets 09:45 yeah 09:45 honestly I know that on average I am a good enough player to deal with most of those threats naturally, but I don't care I want the chance of splat to be MINIMAL 09:46 yeah i genocide because i'm lazy 09:46 and the chance of annoyance to be even lower 09:46 I can excuse not doing conducts like that because I think I could do most of them if I wanted :P 09:47 laziness is my curse 09:47 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:63800 (1 day, 3:41:23) 09:47 i'm addicted to eating magical breathing now 09:47 \o/ 09:47 honestly that's such a great strategy 09:47 for non-tortles 09:48 i view it as not wasting all those unused amulets -- reduce reuse recycle 09:48 it is also fun eating so many rings of accuracy that you can't miss anything ever 09:48 maximizing gain from obscure strategies does make my sick mind happy 09:49 still kicking myself that my tourist with edible accuracy and damage had genocided cubes early...had SO MANY +4/+5 wooden accuracy stockpiled 09:49 lmao 09:50 eating protection from shape changers is always fun too 09:50 yeahhh 09:50 except for all the across-the-map vampire mages of course 09:50 there's a lot of things you can get intrinsically that it almost feels like you shouldn't be able to 09:50 I am too lazy to do stuff like that :-) 09:51 I am too most of the time 09:51 but sometimes the brain goes fuggit 09:52 yay, helm of speed from a player monster 09:53 what happens when you fire 4 arrows at kathryn and the first subdues her? you get boned? 09:53 I believe she ignores all other attacks 09:53 I use fireball to kill her 09:53 that isn't very evil 09:54 yeah, nothing happens even when the hit her. 09:54 Don't give k2 any ideas xD 09:54 yeah multishot stuff, multiple AoE's doesn't anger her, that's intentional 09:54 if she gets hit by your poison cloud after she turns enchantress I think she still gets angry, though 09:55 Most likely 09:55 I find poisoned missiles are eaisest way to take care of her. She always seems to go down in 3/4 turns 09:56 But if you're using poison cloud to kill kathryn, you deserve to die xD 09:56 she is weak to poison, so 09:56 Oh 09:56 I know that a player angered her that way, I just can't recall if it ever got "fixed" 09:57 From poison instadeath? 09:57 Or just general ticking damage 09:57 In my last game, I zapped speed monster at pegasus before taming it and it got angry. That turned kathryn angry too. high tailed out of there. 09:57 like, you kill her, but the poison cloud is still there. then next turn, she gets hit by it again, and gets angry at you 09:58 k3ut0i happened to me in a previous game too. Didn't know you had to use F on potions of acid. Kept throwing and one of them hit the pegasus 09:59 I don't like to fire enchanted projectiles at Kathryn, she just picks them up and you're not getting them back! 09:59 I mean using normal poison weapons against her Loggers_VIII 09:59 that doesn't do anything 09:59 (besides kill her) 09:59 Ah, so only the raw+bonus dmg 09:59 wdym raw+bonus damage? 10:00 I mean does she die to the 10% instakill chance 10:00 from poison 10:00 yes she does 10:00 I thought you meant if she got angered 10:00 No, was wondering about poisoned projectiles 10:00 normal instakill methods work on kathrynn 10:00 *kathryn 10:00 beheading, bisecting, disintegration, etc. 10:01 Good point mobileuser 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:118262 (1 day, 17:03:37) 10:03 speak of the devil 10:03 xD 10:09