00:11 -!- hasselhoff has joined #evilhack 00:12 so the castle wand is 0:1 for me. I have a scroll of charging. Is the optimal strategy to charge first, or use the one wish then charge? when does it have a chance of evaporation, at zero or 1? 00:12 it WILL evaporate if you zap it at 0 charges 00:13 but you want to zap it the once before charging 00:13 You want to use your 1 wish, then charge 00:13 thx 00:13 Remember to bless before wresting 00:13 1/5 chance instead of 1/6 or 1/7 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4963 (0:38:43) 00:14 oh thanks. will hope for the best. need a lot of stuff. Have no MR, no decay, no magic marker. have had zero wishes so far. 00:15 Surprised you made it through the castle with no MR 00:17 It's been a fun adventure. Have reflection, MC3 and low AC, displacement. And a lance. Combined those things have defied any magic users so far. And I've steered clear of poly traps somehow... 00:17 Aha 00:18 Better get it quick 00:18 Sounds like apart from those issues, you're set for midgame 00:19 ya. just also need drain resistance before the valley. And some scrolls of enchant armor, which have been stupidly scarce too (even no luck with polypiling). 00:20 What's the smoky potion? 00:20 have to decide to wish for some gray scales, or to do a reverse geno of grey dragons. and wish for a marker to scale my armor 00:21 smoky is blindness. already forgot to save a couple of those! 00:23 the only other game I won at evilhack (as KingGizzard the Illithid Wizard) I had the amazing luck of booze being the smokey potion and getting the wine cellar. Also got multiple wishes from making booze. 00:23 Love games like that 00:24 In mine, the potion is monster detection xD 00:24 Only source is death drops/chests 00:36 I found a cockatrice corpse 00:36 and a titan :) 00:38 the cantrip: "hum de dum dum" 00:39 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6909 (1:04:04) 00:40 whatever else you might say about them, the hasty purple Hs cut a cute figure bopping around 00:40 He kept trying to free himself 00:40 It was very cute :xD 00:55 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law), 9443 points, T:8230, killed by a tiger 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:72712 (20:19:35) 01:18 !who 01:18 tinklebear: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] terrapin [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 01:18 -!- imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:20 YANI: floating eye corpses float on water (and a fireproof one would float on lava) 01:22 nothing like sensing an archon and having to wait with bated breath to see if it has sunsword 01:23 * tinklebear once again sends mail to the permablind... 01:23 how can you tell you are transparent when blind? 01:23 stethoscope, or try to get into a shop 01:23 currently i'm not invisible 01:23 didn't you recently get a message about your transparency? 01:24 * tinklebear could be hallucinating 01:24 oh right, boojum attacks make you invisible for a few dozen turns 01:24 that was the one, yeah 01:25 i guess you do get a message for that; seems like an oversight since you don't get one when a magic trap turns you invisible 01:27 goddammit 01:27 frickin oprops 01:28 YES 01:36 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 01:38 'night y'all 01:38 goodnight, terrapin 01:54 -!- imanity has joined #evilhack 01:55 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Wiz Trt Mal Neu) had a spellbook of magic missile given to him by Thoth, on T:565 (0:03:54) 01:58 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 435 points, T:783, killed by the Goblin King 01:59 stone armor is unaffected by stone-to-flesh. seems like an oversight 02:01 It's called stone in game, but categorized as mineral 02:03 my uneducated sensibilities tell me that is what they call "a distinction without a difference" 02:03 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 219 points, T:778, killed by a rock gnome 02:04 https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-difference-between-rock-and-mineral 02:04 From a comic strip on my wall: "Dear Shagg, I say an ant is an insect -- not an animal. Am I right or wrong? --Barbara Hi, Cleveland, Ohio" 02:04 *Barbara Hill 02:05 Shagg: "Both. And an is an insect, but an insect is an animal" 02:05 "Since the world is made of animals, vegetables and minerals, insects can only go with animals" 02:06 *an ant 02:08 from the usgs.gov faq you referred me to: "A rock is an aggregate of one or more minerals, or a body of undifferentiated mineral matter." 02:08 ie, rocks are minerals, just as you and I are meat 02:10 Not quite 02:10 k 02:10 Rocks are made from minerals 02:10 like we are made out of meat 02:10 No idea where you're getting this meat thing from 02:10 Think of minerals as more concentrated form of rock 02:10 stone to flesh 02:10 flesh to stone 02:10 Too concentrated, won't work 02:11 the topic at hand 02:11 Calling it "stone" is just a simplification 02:11 what matters, is it's categorized as mineral in object properties 02:11 seems out of character, for a game that makes much of what things are named 02:12 Would you want to wear stone gloves or mineral gloves? 02:12 Some things just sound better 02:13 Mineral gloves sound ugly 02:13 But stone gloves sound pretty damn cool 02:13 :D 02:15 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:17 Can't believe I fought a player monster who was both fire and acid resistant 02:17 and had reflection+MR 02:17 So troll 02:19 heh 02:20 First thing I did was learn cone of cold 02:20 No escape now 02:21 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 730 points, T:1558, killed by the Goblin King 02:34 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Wiz Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1189 (0:12:13) 02:40 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 1616 points, T:1629, killed by a rabid rat 02:42 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 16 points, T:163, killed by a newt 02:50 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:710 (0:06:05) 02:51 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:740 (0:07:07) 02:52 I don't remember antimatter vortexes being this fast 02:53 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1038 points, T:951, killed by Mr. Aksaray; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 03:19 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 1440 points, T:1710, killed by a killer bee 03:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the invisible Mephistopheles, on T:72250 (1 day, 23:35:32) 03:41 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Cav Gia Mal Neu), 1050 points, T:2253, killed by the Goblin King 03:44 No Tiamat :( 03:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:73320 (2 days, 0:04:38) 04:02 "I don't remember antimatter vortexes being this fast" could be a grave inscription 04:02 xD 04:02 Fortunately I have disint resistance 04:02 But still kinda scary 04:09 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Pri Trt Mal Law), 420 points, T:860, killed by an enormous rat 04:13 good luck, imanity 04:13 Thx 04:13 good morning, mobileuser 04:15 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 04:22 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2654411 points, T:74859, killed by Tiamat 04:54 Tiamat, Lolth and demogorgon as well as a 4th demon prince 04:54 Nothing could be done 04:56 nooooo :-( 04:56 damn 04:56 I had Tiamat at around 100 hp when she summoned demo too 04:56 Shame 04:57 -!- imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:03 Sure does keep happening, don't it 05:17 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 05:37 [hdf-us] [evil] marioiscool (Sam Gia Fem Law), 473 points, T:323, killed by a piranha 06:02 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:15 just saw Imanity, so sorry! you were chugging along for a long time 06:15 !tell Imanity when you aren't sure you can handle a demon lord or prince, try to boulder fort them to prevent summoning when you don't have demonbane/hotg 06:15 Will do, krm26! 06:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3553 (3:16:21) 06:34 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #evilhack 06:37 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +0 katana on an altar, on T:4070 (0:48:48) 06:58 -!- hasselhoff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:30 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 07:31 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7526 (1:42:37) 07:54 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:54 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 07:54 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:56 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 08:01 vanilla thing, but it's pretty weird that a scalpel doesn't let you open a tin faster, like when you wield a knife 08:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:8525 (2:00:47) 08:02 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:09 a real scalpel blade would break for sure 08:10 honestly you can't kill something with a scalpel if it doesn't cooperate 08:11 You can. First convince them to cooperate by sleeping. Then gently slice their temple. 08:12 "Scalpel blades are usually made of hardened and tempered steel, stainless steel, or high carbon steel; various other materials such as silver, titanium, ceramic, diamond and even obsidian are not uncommon" 08:12 obsidian *are* uncommon. 08:13 if a nethack knife can open a nethack tin, I should be able to do it with a nethack scalpel :-) 08:14 scalpels don't have the profile for cutting metal, and they are awful at prying. a pocket knife is a superior can opener -- anything thicker than a millimeter really 08:14 They can cut some metals though. 08:14 i mean, you can cut a tin can with wood if you really want to 08:15 the will to succeed is more important than the proper tool 08:15 Oh yeah you probably can, but I was thinking lithium. :) 08:15 * arahael is in a bit of a weird mood tonight. 08:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 08:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:30 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:47 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:01 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:13 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:37 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:43 -!- bugsniper_ has joined #evilhack 09:57 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3438 (0:23:57) 10:05 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 3928 points, T:4551, killed by the Goblin King, while sleeping 10:05 :( he had a wand of sleep 10:05 zzz 10:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2344 (0:21:12) 10:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2527 (0:23:55) 10:34 dang, sorry Imanity. I'll avenge your splat (eventually) 10:34 atheist nopoly can be tough 10:35 When I'm in the mazes of menance I'll pray to anyone and poly anything! 10:35 unless maybe extra healing is smoky, then you can alchemy your way to success 10:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Venus, on T:34613 (11:04:12) 10:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3258 (0:40:42) 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2709 (1:06:36) 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +2 mithril runed dagger named Sting on an altar, on T:3530 (1:17:17) 10:56 okay, in minetown there's a jaguar instead of one of the cats that's meant to be in the kobold shaman room 10:56 now I know for sure that the displacer beast spawning in there a year ago was real 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 631 points, T:1878, killed by a rothe 11:00 it would be nice if only orcish watchmen got mad at sting 11:00 got the watch on my ass now 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 5924 points, T:3961, killed by a bolt of cold 11:02 ah, convenient gnome with a frost horn ended that :) 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:36377 (11:26:16) 11:03 damn right after i squandered my last skill point 11:04 if only tridents and spears shared the same skill 11:04 no amnesia? 11:05 despite the turn count this is pretty early game for me, so i dont have a real toolbox yet 11:05 just through level 10 of the dungeon, haven't finished mines, etc 11:05 ah 11:05 @e?shadow dragon 11:05 shadow dragon (D) | Lvl: 22 | Diff: 24 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: sleep poison | MR: 25 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -4 | Atk: 4d6 breath level drain, 4d8 bite physical, 4d6 claw physical, 4d6 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest | Align: -15 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis, poisonous 11:06 -!- imanity has joined #evilhack 11:07 Anyone know why gnomes started yelling something about eggs and fleeting from me? 11:07 imanity: Message from krm26 at 2023-10-06 06:15 EDT: when you aren't sure you can handle a demon lord or prince, try to boulder fort them to prevent summoning when you don't have demonbane/hotg 11:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 826 points, T:783, killed by a rabid dog 11:07 because you're carrying eggs 11:08 Never seen this interaction before 11:08 was really sad to see your loss this morning imanity :-( 11:08 Ikr 11:08 it's a chance when gnomes see you if you have eggs in open inventory, that they'll flee from you 11:08 oh you died? what happened :( 11:08 tiamat summoned demo, who summoned lolth and one other demon prince 11:09 ouch 11:09 Should've prob used scroll of earth, but they'd have likely summoned nasties 11:09 as wizard, boulder fort is your friend 11:09 Problem is tiamat is immune to non-physical dmg 11:09 it doesn't matter if they cast summon nasties, you'd still be alive 11:09 yeah 11:09 So summon nasties would only make my life harder 11:09 I had to beat her quickly 11:09 Using potions of paralysis and free action 11:09 what was your weapon? 11:09 +6 SED 11:10 gross 11:10 Yep xD 11:10 Had a stack of about 7 +6 SED too, but she never stuck around in one place long enough 11:10 and another monster would take her place 11:10 as wizard you can unlock long sword skill with glamdring and use soa 11:10 Can't use soa. Artiwishless 11:11 Well unless I get really lucky 11:11 what does wishing have to do with it 11:11 actually imanity soa is pretty much guaranteed 11:11 Angelbane+eye/hand of vecna, right? 11:11 you get a demon to show up with angelslayer if you dont find it through other means, and then the vecna part 11:11 glamdring is orcrist+sting, which you can make, and then you get vecna part and angelslayer from a balrog 11:11 no sacrifice or wish requried 11:11 Hmm 11:11 That's a good point 11:12 honestly angelslayer should show up with the first balrog generated like archons and sunsword 11:12 Yeah 11:12 if you have a good source of archons you can also make hotg :-) 11:12 I saw about 7 or 8 balrogs and none dropped 11:12 does wiz have hammer skill? 11:13 krm26 You can't any more. Demonbane is a heavy mace, and Archons are given long swords 11:13 I don't think it was ever the first balrog generated 11:13 archons have 50% chance of mace/sword 11:13 imanity they can spawn with mace 11:13 Oh 11:13 umbire yeah, it's always been 5% 11:13 I didn't see any archon so far 11:13 Maybe past Tiamat 11:13 you can hang around the castle or vlad's tower 11:14 For balrogs? 11:14 archons 11:14 balrogs anywhere in gehennom I think they generate 11:14 I spent most of my time there, as it was my main stash 11:14 and had no archons generate 11:14 what level were you 11:14 at lvl 30 11:14 that's just bad luck, then 11:14 Maybe 11:14 Had charm monster spell ready for them too 11:15 definitely 11:15 I've had archons spawn in vlad's in vanilla, but there's probably more similarly high-level monsters in evil 11:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:37352 (11:39:59) 11:16 I think the nastiest monster I saw randomly generated in castle 11:16 were coutals 11:16 who can drown 11:16 how is the nastiest monster you saw couatls 11:16 aren't they super weak 11:16 no ki-rins or anything? 11:16 they grasp and drown 11:16 Oh, one Ki-rin too 11:16 They can still drown if you're careless but otherwise pretty easy to kill 11:16 But he was pretty late 11:16 I know they do but you can just kill them and they can't drown you 11:17 ki-rin are infinitely worse 11:17 Nah ki-rins are a lot better 11:17 @e?couatl 11:17 couatl (A) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 10 | Res: sleep shock poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: dungeons | AC: 5 | Atk: 2d4 bite drain str, 1d3 bite physical, 2d4 hug wrap | Align: 7 | flies, poisonous, stalker, infravis 11:17 You can outrange them and they're slow 11:17 ??? 11:17 @e?ki-rin 11:17 ki-rin (A) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 18 | Res: cold sleep shock poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: dungeons | AC: -5 | Atk: 2d4 kick physical, 2d4 kick physical, 3d6 butt physical, 2d6 cast spell | Align: 15 | flies, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 11:17 Coutals can be summoned next to you 11:17 how are couatls nastier than ki-rin 11:17 Not from a stat perspective 11:17 couatls are speed 10, ki-rin are 18 11:17 they're not slow either though, by any measure 11:17 That's slower than a player with speed 11:17 it's enough to kite 11:17 i just killed some couatls in the gnomish mines. not very scary 11:17 isn't player with very fast 18 speed 11:18 with very fast speed 11:18 and that's 20 11:18 yeah, couatls show up super early and just are never a problem 11:18 krm26 I mean the drowning part is scary 11:18 Not their stats 11:18 very fast player = 20, ki-rin base = 18 11:18 salamanders, THEY are scary 11:18 which, they can haste themselves so pretty moot 11:18 capability to instakill ≠ dangerous 11:18 they can also cast spells at range so also p. moot 11:18 I had a demilich summon a countal next to me, along with a gray dragon and fire elemental 11:19 and I get that spooked you but ki-rin can... also do literally that 11:19 If either of them engulfed me, I would've been put back next to the coutal 11:19 salamanders are a non issue just put a stop message in your rc and carry a bugle 11:19 not exactly that per se but they can very muchsummon nasties 11:19 and drowned 11:19 it has to grab you first, you know 11:19 ^ 11:19 Same with krakens 11:19 and you can loosen yourself from its grip before then 11:20 imanity, yes 11:20 I don't trust the rng, when there's instadeath on the line 11:20 krakens are also pushovers 11:20 there's reliable ways to pry yourself loose 11:20 kraken? krakens? whatever 11:20 either plural is acceptable 11:20 I think the game uses the former 11:21 I want krakens to kick my ass but they're just damage sponges ;( 11:21 They have about 500 hp, but if you get grabbed once, you might not even have time to get wand out of bag 11:21 you don't need a wand 11:22 they have 0 MR just blow a bugle 11:22 Oh 11:22 that works 11:22 cone of cold, levitate, any scaring tool or instrument 11:22 like I said, ton of methods, several are reliable 11:22 every single monster with a drowning attack besides couatls has 0 MR I think 11:22 @e?salamander 11:22 including salamanders' lava hug 11:22 salamander (:) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire sleep | Confer: fire | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -1 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical, 1d6 touch fire, 3d6 hug fire, 2d6 hug wrap | Align: -9 | thick hide, poisonous, stalker, infravis, passes-bars 11:22 correct 11:22 couatl you can teleport them or yourself with a wand 11:23 I had no wands until a few levels before tiamat 11:23 spell costs too much to write 11:23 I find that by the time you're getting couatls summoned next to you, they shouldn't be able to hit you and if they do you should have a way to avoid death 11:24 No amulets of life saving. Only one was used up on a monster 11:24 you can just carry a wand of cold 11:24 that would work 11:24 yes 11:24 if there's no water you can't drown in it 11:25 don't you both need to be next to a water tile also? 11:26 Or lava tile 11:26 lava is the main problem 11:26 couatls can't drown you in lava 11:26 Isn't that how terrapin died? 11:26 literally that's how 11:26 * 11:26 wait hwhat 11:26 couatls can fly dude 11:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2976 points, T:5327, quit 11:26 crossing lava isn't a problem 11:26 yeah but how do they... dip you in it 11:26 they aren't fire resistant 11:27 Maybe they go in with you 11:27 they just push you down, not full on dive-in 11:27 2 for price of 1 11:27 dip you in head-first 11:27 I'm going to use my pedantry #technique and say that they're wrapped around you so they shouldn't be able to drown you in lava 11:27 bbq adventurer 11:28 don't have to be wrapped around all of you 11:28 just enough 11:28 boo 11:28 restrict your movement and then force enough of you in for it to be lethal 11:29 I guess they could do that... but it's silly >:( 11:29 anyway uhhh like just kill them or something 11:29 xD 11:30 !lastgame terrapin 11:30 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/terrapin/evilhack/dumplog/1696358326.evil.html 11:31 argh shapechanger morphs into a black dragon and toasts me 11:31 did you die or just your stuff 11:31 I'd not considered the possibility when it happened tbh but it was intuitive enough to suss out 11:31 cloak of magic resistance and armor in the first instant 11:31 i will see if i can get a scroll of tp out of my bag 11:32 fffff 11:32 well now i need to find not just reflection but mr again :-P 11:32 lol 11:33 how do these things ALWAYS happen to you 11:33 I call hax 11:33 tell it to k2 man 11:34 his namechecks are outta control 11:34 if playername krm26 activate the advanced troll engine 11:37 well that brush with death only ended up depriving me of flying and 1 ac in the long run 11:37 -!- imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:38 -!- imanity has joined #evilhack 11:38 did you have celestial armor? 11:38 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:38 cloak of mr + amulet of flying -> amulet of mr + alchemy smock 11:38 i'm level 13 dude 11:39 ahh I see 11:39 i really need flying because i'm so lazy and thick but ah well 11:45 @e?shadow dragon 11:45 shadow dragon (D) | Lvl: 22 | Diff: 24 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: sleep poison | MR: 25 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -4 | Atk: 4d6 breath level drain, 4d8 bite physical, 4d6 claw physical, 4d6 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest | Align: -15 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis, poisonous 11:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 954 points, T:2335, killed by a baby owlbear 11:51 The message is "The couatl pulls you into the lava..." which implies to me that the couatl is also in the lava, which i agree doesn't make sense. Maybe it was a suicide attack to protect its friends? 11:51 If it's a one off, sounds like a bug 11:52 Maybe confirm with K2 when he gets back 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1597 (0:07:28) 11:53 i doubt it's a *bug* bug, probably more a situation that hasn't been considered before. honestly i'd be fine with any decision on the matter as long as i know what it is. 11:53 Yeah, I was avoiding coutals like the plague in my game, after I saw it 11:54 i do think it makes for an interesting threat---like Loggers said all the other drowners are trivialized with a horn, couatls require a few more precautions 11:57 yeah, to pull something into the lava, it would also have to be in the lava. so it should probably get a new message 11:57 agree 11:58 and I've already given multiple logical suggestions :3 12:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 252 points, T:868, killed by a bugbear 12:01 -!- imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4162 points, T:3099, killed by a bolt of fire 12:07 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 12:45 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:48 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:74269 (20:59:09) 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Gia Mal Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3217 (0:29:55) 13:08 -!- terrapin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3827 (0:36:19) 13:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a leather robe entrusted to her by Venus, on T:42072 (12:15:08) 13:26 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:28 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 341 points, T:1112, killed by a mountain dwarf 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Gia Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:5008 (0:53:36) 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:44530 (12:31:47) 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 8184 points, T:5175, killed by a bolt of cold 13:37 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 195 points, T:1223, burned by an explosion 13:38 wtf. I didn't know tins could explode 13:38 sokoban? 13:39 no I tried to eat a random tin, it was booby trapped 13:39 1/8 chance of exploding if cursed 13:41 hmm.. with that much of chance, it should have happened to me before... 13:43 well, I normally try to buc test them before eating... 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2355 (0:20:11) 13:56 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2037 (0:17:27) 14:04 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2942 (0:25:58) 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Gia Mal Neu), 5786 points, T:3798, killed by a water troll 14:17 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible spenceshady's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4274 (0:39:10) 14:26 [hdf-au] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 5016 points, T:4811, poisoned by an orcish arrow 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1713 (0:17:56) 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3214 (0:12:53) 14:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3519 (0:27:22) 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Trt Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3644 (0:33:04) 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Trt Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4019 (0:42:32) 14:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Bar Gia Mal Cha) averted death (zombified by an orc zombie), on T:5237 (0:44:32) 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:48759 (14:04:10) 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:1321 (0:09:15) 15:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 7730 points, T:5975, killed by a jaguar, while reading a book 15:06 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 17364 points, T:9589, killed by an earth elemental 15:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 220 points, T:820, killed by a giant rat 15:14 musta been some book 15:16 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a battle-axe entrusted to her by Venus, on T:49714 (14:20:27) 15:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 565 points, T:1053, killed by the Goblin King 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Trt Mal Neu) consumed animal products (cream pie) for the first time, on T:6161 (1:12:36) 15:27 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:50662 (14:35:13) 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1671 (0:06:43) 15:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a platinum large shield entrusted to her by Venus, on T:51434 (14:48:56) 15:51 @e?templar 15:51 templar (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: special | AC: 10 | Atk: 3d4 weapon physical, 3d4 weapon physical | Align: 10 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3642 (0:21:23) 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] hasselhoff (Kni Dro Mal Cha) made his first wish - "Blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:38162 (1 day, 9:29:13) 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1175 (0:03:38) 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1329 (0:04:40) 16:05 [hdf-us] [evil] hasselhoff (Kni Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:38181 (1 day, 9:35:30) 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] hasselhoff (Kni Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scales", on T:38182 (1 day, 9:42:13) 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Trt Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:11044 (2:12:43) 16:24 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:36 another steed just vanished on me 16:36 gnome riding a wumpus this time 16:46 oh duh, i bet it was my black-scaled armor 16:52 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Trt Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:13002 (2:43:05) 17:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Dro Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3036 (0:33:16) 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 12 points, T:115, killed by a fox 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4175 (0:57:58) 17:24 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Trt Mal Neu) had 16 silver shuriken entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:13936 (3:15:18) 17:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:77030 (2 days, 7:33:31) 17:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had 14 steel shuriken entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:4940 (0:59:45) 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 587 points, T:1725, killed by a dwarf zombie 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Trt Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible spenceshady's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:14642 (3:27:53) 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Trt Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:14888 (3:31:12) 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 565 points, T:1887, killed by a rock gnome 17:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 9158 points, T:5522, killed by a warg 17:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a copper splint mail entrusted to her by Venus, on T:55886 (16:54:57) 18:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2396 points, T:2873, zapped himself with a wand of fire 18:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:57622 (17:19:09) 18:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 487 points, T:1345, killed by a mountain dwarf 18:19 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Trt Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19365 (4:10:50) 18:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 59 points, T:272, killed by a sewer rat 18:28 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 stone gauntlets of power", on T:79910 (23:39:50) 18:29 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:79912 (23:40:56) 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:79921 (23:42:07) 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 mithril helm of ESP", on T:79925 (23:43:33) 18:32 dammit 18:32 telepathy 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 mithril helm of telepathy", on T:79928 (23:44:12) 18:57 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Hum Mal Una), 28 points, T:334, killed by a jackal, while praying 19:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Hum Mal Una), 4 points, T:48, killed by an electric shock 19:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Hum Mal Una), 395 points, T:1177, killed by a rabid rat 19:16 of esp should work, shouldn't it? 19:17 i was going for the extra psionic wave damage 19:17 probably not worth it but zen is probably the best use case so i felt i had to 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Kni Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Splunge the drow zombie, and former Cutpurse, on T:1155 (0:07:11) 19:20 -!- hasselhoff has joined #evilhack 19:21 oh what is this!? what is a drider ? 19:21 can I ride a drider? 19:22 no 19:22 they are too grouchy; no one can ride them 19:22 it's a valid poly form though!  I could become Hasselhoff the Knight Drider ! 19:23 hahaha awesome! 19:25 Ok, if I ever get to the end game that's what I'm doing 19:26 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:81722 (1 day, 0:33:32) 19:26 terrapin how's that Ilth Priest combo working out for you? 19:27 it is ridiculously OP 19:27 how so? 19:28 the wraiths from the quest got me to 350 HP (and if i ever drain/restore ability for protection I'll get another 120 from ashmar's 25 Con) 19:28 I have 700 power 19:28 I enjoyed Ilithid wizard, but early game was tricky and carrying capacity was annoying 19:28 700 power! 19:28 psionic wave is just silly good; the only enemies worth worrying about that resist it are vamp mages and alhoons, and priests have easy access to HotG which is great against those 19:29 I had 490pw or so and thought that was huge, but did still end up starved for power on the final ascension run with the amulet draining me. 700 would have been handy. 19:31 i am a bit worried about post-gehennom because i don't have anything good against angels except psionic waving the crap out of them 19:31 which is fine against a single archon but not great against a dozen archangels 19:32 but, i've got two gray dragons who i can fatten up on the dozens of wraiths that are still hanging out in the quest, which should help 19:32 unrelated question. Thinking of reading a scroll of magic detection on castle level, just to identify anything interesting amongst the huge piles of items lying around. Does it matter if I read a blessed or uncursed scroll? 19:32 yes 19:32 uncursed just tells you if something is magical; blessed tells you what magical properties it has 19:33 pets who go brrrrp is a fine way to chew through medium sized baddies 19:33 oh ah 19:33 i often use blessed magic detection as a sort of alternative identify on potions, scrolls, etc. doesn't ID wand charges though 19:33 off to make some holy water then 19:34 cool! I've been wondering what the main use of that scroll is 19:34 it's quite versatile 19:34 also good as a lighter, more focused version of object detection if you lose the Amulet or an important artifact 19:36 -!- hasselhoff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:39 [hdf-us] [evil] spenceshady (Mon Trt Mal Neu), 123595 points, T:23099, killed by Master Kaen, while moving through the air 19:40 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "3 blessed greased scrolls of charging", on T:67510 (3 days, 0:44:29) 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:67524 (3 days, 0:48:53) 19:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2201 (0:20:01) 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:82350 (1 day, 0:58:01) 19:54 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:58 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 20:01 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 41 points, T:382, killed by a sewer rat 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Kni Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6095 (0:53:55) 20:07 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 217 points, T:1018, killed by a dart 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 25 points, T:519, killed by a dart 20:14 oh cool elron is doing con dro 20:14 Can't be that hard, can it ...... 20:15 -!- imanity has joined #evilhack 20:15 lol 20:15 Hate it when you find no key 20:15 if you can get past the early game, it is not so bad 20:16 Problem is carrying capacity. Already had to drop dozens of items 20:16 Attempt 2 had an early altar -- I failed to capitalize :( 20:17 aw :( 20:17 ugh shocking spheres took my only ring of free action, my only ring of slow digestion, and my dignity 20:17 xD 20:17 They do be like that 20:17 imanity there are automatic keys now, you can just get the magic key from mine's end, ludios, or gollum's island 20:17 tortles should be able to see underwater tbh 20:18 like intrinsic goggles 20:18 Ye, but I explored all the way to Sokoban. Found a ring of levitation, but not always this lucky 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 434 points, T:1573, killed by a succubus of Lolth, while praying 20:18 Also poison resistance is a must before going for a swim 20:19 why? 20:19 jellyfish? 20:19 Jellyfish 20:19 kill them at range 20:19 jellyfish are also slow, so you can just outrun them 20:19 They hide 20:19 Hard to track 20:19 blindfold/telepathy 20:19 use telepathy 20:19 No blindfold 20:19 I have ring of warning too 20:20 camera? pie? towel? 20:20 None 20:20 ring will be enough 20:20 ring is fine 20:20 But never been this lucky 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1930 (0:13:35) 20:20 aw, no elves 20:20 the combination of amulet of poi res, ring of warning, and ring of leviation is bonkers 20:21 i got 48% sleep resistance from my silly elf artifacts this game! 20:21 Killing the elves in goblin town? 20:21 naming sting and orcrist 20:21 Oh 20:21 The elves they send after you 20:21 pog 20:21 I should do that more 20:22 "You bought a bag for 3 gold pieces.   onbill: paid obj on bill?" 20:22 is that message, like. supposed to happen? 20:22 no 20:22 cool 20:22 fwiw, picked up a sack with something in it, bought the sack and said no to buying it's contents 20:22 *its 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:2066 (0:16:22) 20:23 yeah i see that bug in shk.c 20:24 cool 20:24 !tell k2 in onbill function in shk.c need an && !silent for the pline in the while statement, Loggers got to see the "onbill: paid obj on bill?" msg 20:24 Will do, krm26! 20:25 k2's gonna get barraged by bug reports when he gets back 20:25 ugh so irritating when an offensive potion is smoky, just continually having them broken over my head by monsters 20:25 yeah that sucks 20:26 the worst is when it's polymorph, you can't get it by polypiling and they're the rarest randomly generated potion 20:26 yes, i was just about to add the same thing :-) 20:26 Or when the potion is something like speed. Can't make any full healing potions 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Kni Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:8722 (1:15:50) 20:27 oh wow, the one ring sells for a ton 20:27 how much? 20:27 more than 2290 20:28 Wow 20:28 that's how much a shopkeeper just offered me, and it was all their gold 20:28 Prob around 2500-3k max then 20:28 Gonna same so much time credit cloning 20:29 if you can't get into gollum's early, orcrist and sting also sell for a lot and are easy to get 20:30 yeah, i've asked k2 to fix the one ring so it does not sell like a normal artifact. shopkeepers should just say "get that cursed thing outta here"! 20:30 i'll remind him :-) 20:30 heh 20:30 well we've got a week and a half to enjoy it 20:31 !tell k2, remember to nerf one ring sales price since it is a guaranteed shop-clearout drop right now 20:31 Will do, krm26! 20:31 !tell k2 and welcome back, we missed you :-) 20:31 Will do, krm26! 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 649 points, T:3565, killed by a giant rat 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 36 points, T:179, killed by a jackal 20:36 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 71 points, T:291, killed by a lichen 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 213 points, T:369, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 20:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:5265 (1:11:36) 20:40 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 24 points, T:217, killed by a newt 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Mal Cha), 6 points, T:204, killed by a sewer rat, while praying 20:42 tortles can see underwater already 20:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:3863 (0:36:48) 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 52 points, T:506, killed by a newt 20:46 terrapin weird 20:46 I zapped a wand of light underwater and it didn't do anything 20:46 must have to zap it from above 20:47 that is odd 20:47 zapping from above does seem to work 20:48 yeah, i noticed that when I was zapping light wands in gollum's caves I could see the bits I illuminated from underwater, but zapping it underwater didn't do anything 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 11268 points, T:11598, killed by a soldier ant 20:50 @e?saber-toothed tiger 20:50 saber-toothed tiger (f) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 14 | Res: cold | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 3d4 claw physical, 3d4 claw physical, 4d4 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, thick hide, infravis 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 5096 points, T:4338, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:53 oops, wielded sting in the presence of an orcish priest 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 300 points, T:2357, killed by a fox 20:55 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 9 points, T:223, killed by a goblin 20:57 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Mal Cha), 66 points, T:320, killed by a lichen 20:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 61 points, T:486, killed by a newt 21:00 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) permanently converted to lawful, on T:88 (0:00:44) 21:01 hah, T 88 permaconvert 21:01 lawful is the best con dro alignment 21:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Law), 0 points, T:459, killed by a couatl of Eilistraee, while praying 21:02 this blows 21:02 can't pray out of altar conversion summons 21:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 5 points, T:32, killed by a fox 21:03 it does blow 21:03 but the feeling when you start winning is fun 21:03 if you'd waited until turn 400 to pray at that altar you woulda been golden 21:05 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 27 points, T:339, killed by a sewer rat, while praying 21:06 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 38 points, T:134, killed by a goblin 21:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2086 (0:10:21) 21:07 -!- nabru has quit [Quit: nabru vanishes!] 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 40 points, T:237, killed by a fox 21:08 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 21:08 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3077 (0:19:20) 21:08 !who 21:08 xdminsy: [hdf-eu] Imanity [evil] :: [hdf-us] elron [evil] Splunge [evil] terrapin [evil] krm26 [evil] Loggers [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 21:09 oh hi xdminsy 21:09 hi loggers. 21:09 So many ongoing plays. 21:09 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 15 points, T:265, killed by a jackal 21:10 yeah, new version came out recently 21:10 I keep meaning to beat it but then getting distracted by other games :P 21:10 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.0.2] 21:11 Haha yeah, I didn't play for a while, evilhack seems too much hard for me.. 21:11 Maybe i'm playing slay the spire and dota2 recently. 21:11 yeah sometimes I have to take a break for a little while 21:11 ah, I have not played slay the spire yet, I hear it is good 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 59 points, T:353, killed by a bone orcish dagger, while fainted from lack of food 21:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had a shield of light entrusted to her by Venus, on T:63736 (18:36:30) 21:12 Lol yes, maybe one of the best roguelike card game. 21:12 soooooooooo close to being useful venus 21:12 I'll have to check it out soon 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3162 (0:16:44) 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 35 points, T:205, killed by an orcish dagger 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 8 points, T:78, killed by a newt 21:14 I viewed some speedrun records of nethack, I see that I'm too slowly in nethack too. 21:14 I hardly go down gehennom with AC above -30 :P 21:15 meh, the people who speedrun vanilla nethack are crazy 21:15 But I see them go gehennom with maybe -5 AC, I think that's why I always wander a lot in early game. 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 3545 points, T:4070, killed by an elven watch captain 21:15 when speedrunning, you kinda don't want to spend time building good AC 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 139 points, T:324, killed by a fox 21:15 you kinda have to YOLO it 21:16 I don't think speedrunning vanilla is very fun, it's just not the kind of gameplay I like 21:16 Yes, but I think I lack the ability to survive with low ac. 21:16 I don't like speedrunning either 21:17 I like "speedrunning" evilhack because I can just play normally and get all the records :P 21:17 I think other people in normal gameplay, won't wait to only go gehenennom after all things are done? 21:17 I think most people wait to go to gehennom until they're done with everything else they want to do, yeah 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a pair of high boots entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1619 (0:08:27) 21:18 I think I could do vanilla with low AC, just have to be careful of minos 21:18 I watched aoei's turn-based speedrun, with almost -2 AC all game and done the game in about 7k turns I think. 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Hum Mal Una) murdered Hecubus, his faithful lesser homunculus, on T:586 (0:02:41) 21:19 yeah, that is wild 21:19 Are there better ttyrec player? 21:19 I used to use jetty but it sometimes display wrongly. 21:19 vanilla is much, much, much easier to speedrun than evil, plus there is no real incentive to take your time, basic ascension kit isnt hard to get and there is no real benefit in improving on that 21:20 Not sure why but some text stick on screens. 21:20 I don't know, the wiki I think has a page on it 21:20 krm26 yeah, in vanilla it's a lot simpler in the second half 21:20 Maybe, I used a lot ttyrec players, maybe jetty is now the best, but still somewhat buggy. 21:21 in evilhack with the bottom-tier ascension kit there are LOTS of things that can go wrong for you :-) 21:21 In vanilla, seems they don't need ascension kit to ascend, I don't know why they ascended but they did :P 21:22 WIth just some random poor items. 21:22 In my view lol. 21:22 which incentivizes you to play slowly and carefully, which allows me to snatch up the world records because everyone else is not a tunnel-visioned idiot :) 21:22 yeah aoei is quite good 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 275 points, T:1398, killed by a kobold, while praying 21:23 Nah, why this channel always have somebody playing Con Dro lol. 21:23 for when you want short games 21:23 it's like climbing the Everest 21:23 the challenge is there 21:24 are you brave enough? 21:24 lol there is almost always someone trying, isn't there 21:24 and the bodies of dead aventurers litter the dungeon 21:24 I still need to do neutral con dro but I would honestly rather gouge out my own eyes with a blunt fork 21:24 I'm afraid of evilhack, cry cry. 21:24 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2597 (0:15:02) 21:25 xdminsy you beat evilhack on your second try, you're insanely good 21:25 and then you beat con dro like, a few weeks later 21:25 Ah I remember I did a zen rogue recently in 3.7, not that hard. 21:26 #15 on the evilhack zscore leaderboard 21:26 Lol but I did a huge lot farming, I think that's a proof of that I'm very unfamiliar with the game lol. 21:26 yeah, but still 21:27 farming is not always but quite often necessary to guarantee ascension 21:27 I'd like to watch your guys replays, but the jetty player somewhat annoys me. 21:27 Yes, maybe I'd try more evilhack games. 21:27 often when something interesting is happening a player will whine...sorry...announce it in this channel 21:27 someone should record some videos of evilhack ascension and post on youtube or something 21:28 runs from the ritual on would be pretty short but not necessarily informative 21:28 terrapin did that but he died in both games so 21:28 lol, no worries. 21:28 Maybe just record all games, and then select the ascended game to upload. 21:29 perhaps 21:29 there are often a couple of critical crux points in the game and they can come at random points. like i just had to weasel out of a reflectionless encounter with a shapechanged black dragon that ate my mr in a long corridor 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:65192 (18:54:38) 21:30 I wish I whined about all the life/death situations I get into but it would clog the channel 24/7 21:31 !tell k2 you should make keolewa an aklys. that way its low damage is compensated for, at least a little bit, it's still a club so suits caveman, and we get that artifact aklys without having to add a new artifact 21:31 Will do, Loggers_VIII! 21:32 I'm excited to see how many messages k2 gets when he comes back :) 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3620 (0:35:03) 21:32 i already tried to convince him of that waay back at the start loggers and was rebuffed 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 432 points, T:1602, killed by a large spider 21:32 boo 21:32 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:83736 (1 day, 1:40:41) 21:32 maybe now he'll have a change of heart 21:33 the italians will soften him up 21:35 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 37 points, T:793, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted grid bug 21:35 random dragonhide robe, I hate tortle T_T 21:39 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:91, killed by a sewer rat 21:39 con dro again? 21:40 I'm not sure what to play. 21:40 tortles are fun 21:40 Lol, con dro my most familiar evilhack roles :P 21:40 yeah me too :P 21:41 tortle is good because you can play kind of more mindless 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 521 points, T:1271, killed by a dart 21:44 Really, i read the tortle in evilhack page again. 21:44 I cant get what're their advantages.. 21:44 Is that hiding in shell very useful? 21:45 no 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 67 points, T:564, killed by a goblin 21:45 I just like that they get a lot of AC and can swim and breathe water 21:45 you get to ignore a lot of armor which I like because it means I have to pay attention to less things 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) murdered his faithful pony, on T:5188 (0:45:24) 21:46 sorry pony 21:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) rejected atheism by consulting with the giant priest of Athena, on T:5412 (0:46:22) 21:47 Then how much AC do tortles need? 21:48 usually you end the game around -40 to -50 AC 21:48 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) permanently converted to lawful, on T:744 (0:03:18) 21:48 but in the early game, you have a lot more AC than usual 21:48 Okay then. 21:49 Lol elron convert to lawful again. 21:49 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:84467 (1 day, 1:57:21) 21:50 ugh, I think I might quit this game 21:51 made the watch angry on accident :/ 21:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 5692 points, T:5942, killed by a falling object 21:51 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 80 points, T:553, killed by a sewer rat 21:51 evilhack is too hard for meee :( 21:52 I agree, I was hit to hp 1 at around 10 turns. 21:53 ooh, got a neothelid 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 8 points, T:134, killed by a jackal 21:54 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Law) had a mithril dwarvish short sword entrusted to her by Eilistraee, on T:2365 (0:09:21) 21:55 terrapin in the hidden dungeon? 21:55 yeah 21:55 cool 21:55 shouldn't be too big a deal for ith 21:55 I wonder if you can ride them 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed Tal'Gath, on T:84691 (1 day, 2:03:58) 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Law), 227 points, T:2621, killed by a giant rat 21:56 Who's Tal'Gath.. 21:56 @e?tal'gath 21:56 Tal'Gath (e) | Lvl: 46 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold disintegrate shock poison petrification magic | Confer: disintegrate poison | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 0d0 gaze slow, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 6d6 gaze cancellation, 16d4 cast magic missile, 10d10 bite physical | Align: -18 | flies, breathless, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 21:56 I see. 21:56 it's a boss beholder that you can kill to genocide beholders 21:56 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:42, killed by a fox 21:57 hmm, i probably should genocide them so they don't mess with my pets 21:57 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 75 points, T:122, killed by a fox 21:57 i always forget that genocide is an option 21:57 Maybe you often do only genocideless. 21:57 what've you got for pets 21:57 two gray dragons 21:58 what're their names 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 15 points, T:24, killed by a bolt of cold 21:58 Mist & Fog 21:58 those names are Log Approved, very nice 21:58 Oh terrapin I decided to watch your that 10 conducts drow monk. 21:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 28 points, T:185, killed by a jackal 21:59 i often go with weather names for whatever reason 21:59 once i accidentally made a solid pun when i named a yellow dragon Smog 21:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 4 points, T:102, killed by a jackal 22:00 xdminsy neat. i'm pretty proud of it 22:00 of course most of the conducts were of the "don't typo" variety 22:00 Suddenly I found that, why there's no bare-hand combat skill in #enhance? 22:00 I'm not sure why I always miss a jackal in melee. 22:00 on Con Dro? 22:00 it's thievery 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3334 (0:36:32) 22:00 it counts as barehanded 22:00 Okay I see. 22:00 if you're in the light you have a TH penalty 22:01 otherwise, just bad luck i guess 22:01 Yes, but I miss a lot in dark too and some games lol. 22:01 rng's a bitch 22:01 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Mal Cha), 24 points, T:483, killed by a grid bug, while praying 22:01 Yes you finished first combo so fast and did so well. 22:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:20, killed by a dart 22:02 I've given up on trying to understand the yellow dragon Smog pun, what is it 22:02 oh, like smaug? 22:02 yeah 22:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 7 points, T:89, fell into a pit 22:02 died to a poisoned orcish arrow, too 22:02 sometimes you gotta say these things out loud 22:02 hah 22:03 what conducts were your 10? 22:03 vegn vege weap pile self arti geno elbe bone surv 22:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 36 points, T:520, killed by a jackal 22:04 Yes, it's first combo of 0.8.3, a dark elven monk. 22:04 wow, impressive 22:04 same as vaderFLAG but bonesless, not wishless; so not quite as good :) 22:04 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 4 points, T:105, killed by a dart 22:04 comparing  yourself to vaderflag is a one-way trip to self-doubt :) 22:04 Wow and it's the first ascension of 0.8.3. 22:04 yep 22:04 heh very true 22:05 i tend to not start new games when a release is about to happen so i have a bit of a headstart often 22:05 good nethack players are one thing, but really good evilhack players kind of scare me 22:06 maybe I will try to play some vanilla 22:06 I bet I could beat tariru's streak :) 22:06 Lol first combo ascension is like a prize, you need to hurry to get it. 22:06 yeah it's a fun rush 22:06 I want to get the first tortle healer 22:06 And maybe you can try beat luxidream too. 22:06 pfft, no way 22:06 Then you can beat tariru in maybe 50 hours. 22:07 it's always fun when two go for the same one and there's a bit of a real-time race 22:07 luxidream is way out of my league quick. that's why I wish he would play some evilhack already 22:08 does anyone wanna race for tortle healer so they can get it first and I can stop feeling an obligation to do it 22:08 heh 22:09 i do need to play healer at some point. not sure if i want to torture myself with tortles though :P 22:09 it's not torture! it's funn 22:10 tanky with lots of HP regain methods and poison resistance is a good time honestly 22:11 yeah, they do sound pretty solid 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 476 points, T:1386, killed by a hobgoblin 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 8 points, T:59, killed by a bone orcish dagger 22:14 Is that new combo this version? 22:14 nah 22:15 tortle samurai is a new combo, no one's done that yet 22:16 I see a lot blank of tortle. 22:16 Nobody like them :P 22:16 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 116 points, T:735, killed by a falling rock 22:16 tortle my beloved :( 22:16 Make tortle great again :P 22:16 pffff 22:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 8320 points, T:10998, killed by a vampire lord 22:17 A vampire lord in the mines 22:17 There're a lot tortles you can ascend, barbarian, samurai, healer and priest seems. 22:17 wtf 22:18 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 41 points, T:374, killed by a grid bug, while praying 22:18 Maybe polymorphed. 22:18 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 32 points, T:82, killed by a fox 22:18 that's strange, I thought someone had done tortle barbarian before 22:18 maybe they splatted 22:18 He wasn't xdminsy. I watching him transform 22:19 polymorphed vampires still transform 22:19 *watched 22:19 He was the first monster when I came downstairs 22:19 for the first time 22:19 Kited as my pet killed the bat 22:19 But when he transformed into vampire lrod 22:19 !lastgame imanity 22:19 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/evilhack/dumplog/1696634931.evil.html 22:19 Killed me 22:19 Ah yes, that's VaderFlag did a chaotic barbarian, but seems you can still do one neutral one, is neutral a starting option for it? 22:19 they show up in the catacombs often 22:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1178 points, T:5352, poisoned by a stone orcish arrow 22:19 even vamp royals sometimes 22:20 Yeah, can spawn 22:20 Really bad rng 22:20 wasn't the catacombs 22:20 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 144 points, T:853, dragged downstairs by an iron ball 22:20 xdminsy yeah barbs can be neutral 22:20 Seems not mine's end, I guess it's got polymorphed. 22:20 let's do some math 22:21 @e?vampire noble 22:21 vampire noble (V) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 14 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d8 claw physical, 1d8 bite level drain | Align: -9 | genocidable, flies, breathless, regen, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis 22:21 diff 14 22:21 Or could it be a bones level? 22:21 I have bones disabled 22:22 what's the calculation for diff and monster randomgen 22:22 I brought him from mines end 22:22 Cause vampires follow you upstairs for some reason 22:22 oh 22:22 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 51 points, T:502, killed by a goblin 22:22 yeah catacombs always have two V 22:22 Ah then it might be. 22:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 123 points, T:636, zapped himself with a wand of striking 22:23 Ah 22:23 One point is that I remember V will be scared if you stand on altars. 22:23 Guess need to assume any B or d might be in disguise 22:23 Maybe you could run to minetown altar :P 22:23 I think the catacombs vampires always start as B 22:23 so just be wary of that 22:23 Not a chance. He was faster than me 22:23 Way faster 22:24 speed 14, so yeah a little bit faster than an unhasted player 22:24 it would be funny though :) 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 326 points, T:1812, killed by a sewer rat 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:85733 (1 day, 2:39:06) 22:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 75 points, T:329, killed by a jackal 22:31 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:85763 (1 day, 2:39:55) 22:33 terrapin, I think you told me once that when forging the item you forge will have the enchantment of whatever of the original two items had the highest enchantment (not just the second selected item), did I make that up? 22:33 correct 22:33 cool, thanks 22:33 BUT it only considers the enchantments of items of the same class 22:33 which is why ashmar is always weird 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 19 points, T:70, killed by a newt 22:34 yeah, I remember that bit 22:34 let me forge a +7 ashmar/ithilmar >:( 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Mal Cha), 0 points, T:147, killed by a tower of flame 22:35 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) destroyed Charon, on T:85865 (1 day, 2:43:22) 22:35 oops 22:35 silly pets 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2907 (0:31:55) 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 55 points, T:384, killed by a newt 22:38 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 129 points, T:353, killed by a lichen 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Hum Mal Una), 677 points, T:2126, killed by a kobold zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Mal Cha), 10 points, T:73, killed by a grid bug 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3202 (0:35:22) 22:40 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 48 points, T:127, killed by a grid bug 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 11 points, T:128, killed by a newt 22:42 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:5, killed by a bear trap 22:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3746 (0:38:09) 22:43 What level do you name artifacts, Loggers_VIII? 22:43 Since the chance mobs will spawn increase with player level 22:43 I just name sting when I think I can get some elves 22:43 I mean when you're level 4,5,6, etc.? 22:43 does naming sting/orcrist have a level-based chance of getting elves? 22:44 sorry, I phrased that wrong. when I think I can KILL some elves 22:44 Ah 22:44 I think the chance of summoning elves increases as you get to a higher level 22:44 So was wondering if there's some mid max shit which is possible 22:44 *min max 22:44 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:756 (0:02:26) 22:44 meh, if that is true higher levels benefit less from the elves/weapon anyway 22:45 ooh elron is cooking now 22:45 Was thinking it's mainly for the sleep res. I usually don't max it until double digit dungeon levels 22:45 it's 2/3 chance of a grey elf and, if so, two independent 2/3 chances of green elves 22:45 nope still sucking 22:45 Does that depend on player level terrapin? 22:45 if you have an altar, you are cooking 22:45 no 22:46 cooking with RICE 22:46 So it's different to wishing for artifacts, which have chance of bringing someone over 22:46 it is different, but that is also not dependent on XL 22:46 Guess I'll start doing it asap too 22:47 the sleep resistance is ok but honestly I just like fighting stuff 22:48 I like to max resistances asap. Never know when gnome with wand of sleep will spawn and wreck your day 22:49 Or green elves come with sleep arrows 22:49 Had that happen a while back 22:49 it's drow that spawn with tainted arrows 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 272 points, T:2580, killed by a goblin 22:49 They spawned with arrows of sleep 22:49 magical 22:49 that's not a thing 22:49 Oh 22:49 Maybe it was drow then 22:50 arrows of sleep sound super annoying 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 11 points, T:341, killed by a grid bug, while fainted from lack of food 22:51 Oh I see what happened 22:51 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/evilhack/dumplog/1696175100.evil.txt 22:51 One used a wand of sleep 22:51 and killed me with magical arrows 22:51 ah, gotcha 22:52 Fun times 22:52 I can no longer throw iron ball right? 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Loggers' ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:4854 (0:48:27) 22:53 xdminsy yeah, it will hurt you if you doo 22:53 *do 22:53 Okay, but I used up my rocks :( 22:53 wielding it is still a good option 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed Lolth, on T:86513 (1 day, 3:01:55) 22:55 hm, bit of a strange bug; dipped a bag in fountain, "the crossbow bolt rusts!" I didn't know there was a crossbow bolt in there 22:56 one of those little things 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 286 points, T:1453, killed by a mountain dwarf 22:56 Seems have heard maybe same bug in vanilla. 22:57 yes, that would likely be vanilla thing 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:5256 (0:53:33) 22:58 Spellbooks of finger of death and cancellcation in the same shop 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 287 points, T:469, crunched in the head by an iron ball 22:59 I know which shopkeeper I'll be visiting in a few levels 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Inf Hum Mal Una), 1984 points, T:2342, killed by a mountain dwarf 22:59 No need to pay fee if there's no one to pay it to 23:00 heh 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered Nicodemus, her faithful giant rat, on T:1151 (0:02:48) 23:02 !who 23:02 xdminsy: [hdf-eu] Imanity [evil] :: [hdf-us] Splunge [evil] Loggers [evil] elron [evil] terrapin [evil] xdminsy [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 23:02 it's nice to see so many people playing evil 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 124 points, T:1192, killed by an orcish dagger 23:02 Ye 23:02 Wish more from eu played tho 23:03 Have to swap to US settings each time I want to watch 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 52 points, T:167, killed by a grid bug 23:03 ughhhhh a fucking nymph stole my full healing potions 23:03 and my +5 trident 23:04 such profanities do not exist in the english language as are proper for this situation 23:04 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 14 points, T:242, killed by a kobold 23:04 xD 23:04 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 4 points, T:49, killed by a dart 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 36 points, T:184, killed by a dart 23:05 I'll come back to this tomorrow, ugh 23:05 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to him by Kos, on T:1149 (0:08:16) 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:86814 (1 day, 3:15:58) 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 119 points, T:1466, killed by an iron ball collision 23:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1811 (0:26:56) 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 30 points, T:85, killed by a jackal 23:11 Oooops, the problem is that throwing any iron items will hurt me. 23:11 I cannot throw regular arrows or bolts or darts. 23:11 That's way limiting projectiles. 23:13 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:86991 (1 day, 3:21:00) 23:15 Oooops, so the new goblin town map, I cannot skip goblin king to get that hammer? 23:15 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:87026 (1 day, 3:23:09) 23:16 you can get balrogs from demon gating, right? 23:17 @e?balrog 23:17 balrog (&) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -2 | Atk: 8d4 weapon physical, 4d6 weapon physical | Align: -14 | flies, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis 23:17 @e?marilith 23:17 marilith (&) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -6 | Atk: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 claw physical, 2d4 claw physical, 2d4 claw physical, 2d4 claw physical | Align: -12 | seeinvis, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis 23:17 I think yes? 23:18 xdminsy You need to go through his room if you want to get hammer 23:18 Unless you go via the trap door 23:18 In which I think it puts you on the right, but obviously can't get back without killing goblin king 23:18 That's way hard for me. 23:19 I did it by accident in my last game. Was separated from my pet 23:20 That's really too hard, I remember in previous game the upstars will put me beside the portal. 23:20 the new bear trap is so annoying :( 23:20 That's with the old map 23:21 I lost about 10 hp try to untrap it. 23:21 it's great for catching the goblin king with though 23:21 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 1006 points, T:2690, killed by a grid bug, while praying 23:21 Ah yes, Id check how many turns can I set up a trap. 23:22 Well but I have no enough projectiles. 23:22 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 51 points, T:237, killed by a goblin 23:22 I think I cannot cross the room, 'd better go back main dungeon.. 23:24 What pet do you have? 23:24 2 rats. 23:24 Lol rip 23:24 I think i may die, I shouldn't untrap that bear trap and pray. 23:24 RIP. 23:24 You should be able to kill the goblin king comfortably around lvl 4 23:24 ig farm up 23:24 in main branch 23:25 I'd now faint for around 1000 turns in goblin town :( 23:26 Hope my giant rats can protect me. 23:26 Wtf why faint? 23:26 no food? 23:26 Yes, cuz a wrong pray :( 23:27 I used to rely on prayer like that too 23:27 Eat everything in sight 23:27 Until satiated 23:27 then wont be an issue 23:28 No matter, seems the new map is a good place to faint. 23:28 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 359 points, T:2114, killed by an arrow 23:28 I faint 1000k turns, and not even one monster get close. 23:28 Yep, mobs can't get past the middle 23:29 and pathing for mobs in nethack makes them rather stay as close to you as possible, even if there's a wall inbetween 23:29 than take the path around to meet you 23:29 In previous game I could just farm os for nutrition. 23:30 If you see the branch and are weak, maybe it's best to back out in future 23:30 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 49 points, T:434, killed by a jackal 23:30 In old map, I feed my pet all the kills, so he can kill the neutrals for sleep res corpses 23:30 But in new, I take all exp and either face goblin king, or go back to dungeon and farm some more 23:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 76 points, T:107, killed by a bolt of lightning 23:31 I may go back main dungeon later. 23:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:83, killed by a grid bug, while reading a book 23:32 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 6 points, T:65, killed by a falling rock 23:32 Ah and the most insane nerf is that, I cannot throw iron crude daggers. 23:32 Oooops, so then I have only 2 daggers that I can throw, meh. 23:33 K2 have no mercy. 23:33 What role are you? 23:33 convict? 23:34 I'm Con Dro. 23:34 Lol. 23:34 hard early 23:35 In previous version, I could gather at least 10 crude daggers and kill goblin town, if lucky I can obtain that hammer to remove the iron chain. 23:35 But those are all nerfed in new version. 23:35 What about visiting mines for projectiles? 23:36 Encumbrance could be an issue tho 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 343 points, T:1097, killed by a goblin 23:36 No hp regeneration, so basiclly avoid go downstair. 23:36 Ah 23:36 I really want to try drow conv 23:36 Go downstair with iron ball will hit a lot, maybe around 9 hp. 23:36 Looks fun 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 10 points, T:182, killed by a sewer rat 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 9 points, T:118, killed by a sewer rat 23:37 Lol looks always dying. 23:39 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 19 points, T:382, killed by a grid bug, while fainted from lack of food 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 252 points, T:1258, killed by an iron ball collision 23:46 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 495 points, T:4823, killed by a werejackal 23:47 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 46 points, T:566, killed by a jackal 23:47 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 4 points, T:44, killed by a fox 23:48 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 19 points, T:77, killed by a water moccasin 23:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5862 (0:49:47) 23:50 Lol got Werebane dropped by a goblin, but I'd die. 23:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 216 points, T:519, killed by kicking a wall 23:52 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 25 points, T:109, killed by a goblin 23:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:6206 (0:53:41) 23:53 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 79 points, T:354, killed by kicking a wall 23:53 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 11 points, T:44, killed by a fox 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 12 points, T:348, killed by a grid bug, while praying 23:56 Doing sokoban without a way to move my pet sucks 23:57 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Con Dro Fem Cha), 111 points, T:385, killed by kicking a wall 23:57 Maybe wait and pet will jump into holes. 23:57 Then he'd be on lower floor and lose tameness 23:58 Carvinous pets I think don't need to worry about tameness. 23:59 I know one will hit a levelport trap in a few levels 23:59 and I'll come back with barely enough time 23:59 So want to keep it as high as possible 23:59 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]