00:00 so you'd rather just swim across the plane of water than float around waiting for the portal? 00:00 I've never considered doing that as it sounds like a pain if you get grasped by a kraken or something. 00:00 I use warning and telepathy to kill those krakens before they even get close 00:01 Gotta be quick. With every summon, Rodney gets stronger and if he follows me to the astral plane, could get dicey 00:06 I don't think he can appear on Astral, unless he's alive when you enter the last portal and adjacent maybe? 00:06 anyway, I might adopt the seadragon scales method of plane of water. 00:06 Exactly. He will follow you if adjacent 00:06 It's very efficient. Even more so if you can get goggles to see underwater 00:07 From gollum's cave, or death dropped 00:07 in vanilla I would just wait it out forever, but rodney is so much stronger in evilhack 00:07 ya, no goggles in my game :( 00:07 Yeah, it's a race against the clock 00:09 and if I'm wearing seadragon scales then I don't have to worry about drowning. I'm sold! 00:10 It's a hassle if a kraken grabs you, but should only take a few turns to dispatch 00:10 now I just have to find one of the dozens of seadragon scales I've left laying around the dungeon 00:11 xD 00:11 If you have a spare scroll of genocide, might be quicker to reverse genocide them 00:16 naw... I'm killing time and collecting as much ascension loot as possible. 00:16 I really enjoy the early and mid game, but hate the late game. I'm trying to enjoy it more by exploring new strategies. 00:17 Aha 00:18 I prefer challenges. If I beat this atheist, I'll prob go for first 11 conduct ascension xD 00:18 Seems only possible as a monk tho 00:35 conduct ascensions are out of my league 00:35 good luck to you! 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:25429 (3:58:24) 00:45 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) genocided vampire mages, on T:119414 (1 day, 13:27:06) 00:49 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 01:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:26018 (4:08:58) 01:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:26132 (4:10:22) 01:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Con Dwa Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:28953 (4:54:43) 01:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6646 (0:48:52) 01:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:6869 (0:51:03) 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 7676 points, T:7055, killed by a piranha 02:15 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 02:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:51 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:55 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 02:59 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:19 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 03:58 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 04:03 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:47 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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A few wands of fire for 12 charges, and 2 wands of lightning with 2 + an unknown number of charges. Any other advice, besides trying my best to clear out the rest of the monsters before taking him on? I'm 07:47 at XP 16 and have a +6 Mjollnir and a +5 spear of frost as my best weapons. 07:48 role? 07:48 and do you have extra speed? 07:48 Valk 07:49 yes - speeds boots plus intrinsic speed 07:49 so you can outrun him, that's always good 07:49 Bag of Hesp but I'm still burdened - I can poly the rings and other wands, perhaps to get ready. 07:49 yeah don't be burdened there 07:50 Yes I outran him back from the room on the right to the stairs where I descended to get to his level 07:50 Ok, so I'll drop things before taking him on. I also have a t-shirt of decay so can't be level drained. 07:51 no experience with a 2-handed sword yet. 07:51 he hits extremely hard, can you tank a lot of damage? 07:51 only 137 HP 07:51 so not really... 07:51 I nurse danced with the 1 nurse I could find. 07:51 she's gone now. 07:52 if you aren't confident you can always use silver missile weapons -- aklys, elven dagger, shuriken depending on class 07:52 of course as a valk you can throw mjollnir too although that is risky 07:52 can also boulder fort if having trouble maintaining distance 07:52 No gauntlets of power 07:52 i wouldn't waste time with wands 07:53 I usually quaff any blessed extra healing I can find. And blessed (undiluted) full healing if I have been able to alchemize replacements 07:53 a fire horn maybe 07:53 I have 2 wishes and a silver aklys. 07:53 I have a fire horn 07:53 is he close to the stairs? 07:53 if you have basic club, a +7 silver aklys and a fire horn keeping separation should do for him 07:53 no he's half way across the screen 07:54 and I'm invisible if that matters. 07:54 what krm26 said 07:54 use fire horn when it will reflect, otherwise +7 silver aklys 07:54 keep distance 07:54 ok I'll enchant the aklys then. 07:54 move away when there are two spaces between you, don't wait for just one, to be extra careful 07:54 yes he moves fast. 07:55 when i have a club-capable role i love to make a +7 silver aklys of shock, or frost, or even fire to use in gehennom 07:55 oh I'm down to my last potion of holy water. Better make some more. 07:55 good for balrogs and pit fiends (the whip set), demon lords and princes you want to boulder fort, etc 07:56 or if i can use shuriken, nothing beats 50 +7 silver shuriken 07:56 Hmm, it's already silver - haven't found many arrows of anything yet, maybe there were some of fire a few levels away. 07:56 Sure - no shuriken in the dungeon at all. 07:56 they are so easy to make 07:56 right 07:56 found shuriken are almost never silver anyway! disarm all the traps on your way to the castle for potential silver darts, arrows, and bolts 07:57 I don't have a shuriken skill slot 07:57 every weapon is (eventually) made out of those three components :-) 07:57 yeah valks dont bother with shuriken 07:57 i guess you could unlock it with crowning if you really wanted to but no reason 07:57 Ok, in my next role, perhaps. 07:57 true that - no crowning yet. 07:57 an aklys of shock will take half the turns on most stuff as a normal silver aklys, but no big deal really if you don't have the mats 07:58 and the spare forge 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 291 points, T:836, killed by a giant mosquito 07:58 great ideas all - I lack the components for (weapon) of shock/cold at the moment. I might be able to find some fire arrows, perhaps. 07:59 ... for creating (weapons) of .... 07:59 i tend to pick up everything silver and stick it in a magic chest to make late-game prep easier 08:00 to something you mentioned earlier, i recommend never doing anything burdened in the mid/late game. there is no reason to. visit a magic chest and dump stuff 08:00 even stash haters dont have an excuse any more 08:05 good point - I'll make use of one 08:09 What about Gjallar - is it worth blowing when Kas is near? 08:09 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 626 points, T:1969, killed by a magic missile 08:13 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #evilhack 08:14 I have a spare mithril plate mail - any suggestions for what dragon-scale to embed it with? I have black/grey/red/blue?/orange relatively close by. Not sure if I have silver, and no shadow scales yet. 08:15 I'm disintegration resistant already 08:18 just save your scales, presumably you need what you are currently wearing 08:18 gjallar can stun kas, but i wouldn't let him get that close to you 08:19 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2491 (0:09:25) 08:20 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:2537 (0:10:12) 08:22 I'm wearing celestial for the flying over the lava safely. 08:23 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3032 (0:13:07) 08:23 you'll get crystal plate soon from vlad if you dont get a lucky drop before 08:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:46066 (23:22:37) 08:31 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Splunge's ghost, the former Inmate, on T:4326 (0:21:50) 08:32 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7499 points, T:4337, killed by a mumak 08:53 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 653 points, T:2025, killed by a giant mimic 08:54 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 182 points, T:421, killed by a potion of acid 09:16 Hmmm my silver blessed +7 aklys has been missing Kas a whole lot 09:17 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 09:18 Is Kas scared of Elbereth? 09:21 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:22 I zapped a / of cancellation at Kas. My aklys is still not hitting him at all. 09:22 that would surprise me 09:23 yeah, he's got ridiculously good AC... how is your dex? 09:23 15 09:23 not good enough, I guess. 09:24 I'm afraid so... 09:24 I can switch my Dragonbane for gauntlets of Dex, perhaps. Need to enchant them. 09:26 hmmm, do blessed potions of restore ability increase your stats? 09:27 Ok, my Dex is now 19 - using +3 gauntlets of Dex. Quaffing teh blessed potion of rest. abil. added a point to my Dex and my Int. Go figure. 09:28 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:28 Ah, my first throw is a hit now ! 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4372 (0:35:46) 09:31 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:33 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 09:33 Is it worth accepting the quest early, in order to get more death drops from the 2x increased spawn? 09:42 I'm still missing him a lot. 09:44 Is the fact that it's dark in the room affecting my ability to hit him, perhaps? 09:45 Hmmm, standing on a ? of scare monster and he still hits me with his sword. I guess he doesn't fear scrolls of scare monster. 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:47059 (1 day, 0:38:34) 09:46 Wow - that took a LONG time to get him! 09:46 Kas has very strong AC, so. 09:46 Thanks all for the suggestions ! 09:47 hmmm, chain mail and normal plate mail. Alas. 09:48 and of course being neutral I can't handle or use the sword of Kas. 09:48 You got him! \o/ 09:49 Yeah - that's my best Evilhack achievement of the year so far! 09:50 On to Vecna! 09:57 dbanethacker, you assuredly can use the sword of kas 09:57 you may decide it isn't worth it but you can 09:57 Hmmm, I will try again then. 09:59 I keep being given the message You can't handle your crystal two-handed sword named The Sword of Kas! 10:00 yeah it works like a bane weapon krm26 10:00 it hates non-chaotics 10:00 I was very disappointed when my Infidel couldn't handle it 10:02 Hmmm, shadow dragon scales. Maybe I should put those on my spare armor? 10:03 @loggers_viii would be so pleased. 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Splunge's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:7375 (1:08:24) 10:03 Feels like it "should" allow Infidels to handle it, but ambivalent at most on that 10:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:03 hallo 10:03 Hello Loggers_VIII, Welcome to #evilhack 10:04 lol 10:04 Good bot 10:04 oh really mobileuser? i would swear i've used sword of kas as a valk before 10:04 what is it a bane for? 10:05 humans? 10:05 I also used it, as a neutral tourist I think? 10:05 no, non-chaotics 10:05 that has gotta be a change 10:05 yeah, I'm sure I have used it with Infidels in earlier versions 10:07 double damage vs cross-aligned 10:07 I suppose there was some bane code refactoring 10:07 I think some changes were made to bane-type weapons lately, that could have changes something 10:07 *changed 10:07 jinx 10:07 lol 10:08 I think that should count as a bug 10:08 yeah i thought kas is supposed to be available to everyone if they can stand the vicious poisoning penalty 10:09 !tell k2 bane changes seem to make sword of kas unusable to non-chaotics, probably not intentional? 10:09 I'm on it, krm26. 10:09 ...which only ever applied to lawfuls to begin with 10:10 krm26 Does the Sword do medicre dmg against poison resistant enemies? 10:10 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:8400 (1:16:04) 10:10 *mediocre 10:11 it's a gemstone two-handed sword that grants giant strength, so even when attacking a coaligned poison-resistant monster it deals pretty good damage 10:12 Oh good 10:12 Was considering using it to gain giant strength 10:12 if Vecna misbehaves 10:13 okay, I just double-checked and in vanilla if you try and use the sceptre of might as non-lawful the same thing happened, so there is precedent 10:15 ...I mean the Sceptre is a quest artifact 10:15 literally unusable when cross-aligned anyway 10:15 (and not a caveman) 10:16 yeah, I just mean it's not technically a bug, so to speak 10:17 quest artifacts have always handled alignment differently 10:18 sword of kas is at least on the same level of intelligence as a quest artifact 10:18 and it hates stuff more 10:18 but it's weird that I think other alignments could use it in earlier versions, I wonder when that change happened 10:19 Hm 10:20 YANI: make keolewa an aklys 10:20 quest artifacts evade your grasp because you don't match alignment *and* role 10:20 sword of kas probably should evade you grasp 10:20 it does because it's considered a bane to non-chaotics, due to the way banes are defined 10:21 the reason he put in the sword was to give everyone except for the hated priests an anti-vecna weapon so i dont think this is intentional 10:21 yea we get that bit 10:21 agreed krkm26 10:21 whoops 10:21 and recently artifact blast was fixed so gloves don't protect you 10:22 *probably shouldn't evade 10:23 I think you misunderstand why I bring up sceptre of might, it being a quest artifact is irrelevant; it's its status as a bane to cross-aligned that makes you unable to handle it in vanilla, which is why I don 10:23 *don't think the sok being unable to be handled is a bug per se 10:23 but sok should probably be special so everyone can use it 10:23 so you're saying if you're a caveman with a HoOA you can't wield the sceptre? 10:23 yes 10:24 oh, huh 10:24 you're unable to handle your sceptre of might 10:24 then yeah, sok being special-cased sounds like a good call 10:33 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:114573 (2 days, 1:57:08) 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) averted death (suffocated by a sea dragon), on T:47731 (1 day, 1:27:52) 10:35 mmm + 20 to hit from rings 10:35 but cant get breathing from 10 amulets :-) 10:35 Loggers what happens in vanilla with samurai wearing HoOA trying to wield the Tsurugi? 10:36 hah got satiated on rings 10:36 Hm, makes sense 10:36 mobileuser, think it just blasts you? now I'm wondering 10:37 An encounter with one player monster got me 10 extra AC. I like :D 10:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a dark elven spear bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:114974 (2 days, 2:05:17) 10:45 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 10:49 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:10385 (1:36:56) 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:68136 (1 day, 20:24:41) 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a knife entrusted to her by Odin, on T:48828 (1 day, 1:58:29) 11:06 WTF - a knife? 11:06 the gods are cruel 11:06 Nah. Odin wants you to cook him a meal 11:07 It's a sign to become a chef 11:07 Yeah I lost a TON of stuff in the 3rd Vecna level - forgot to pull my / of wishing and from the bag before having to drop it because it was uncursed and too heavy. I'm making some holy water now, but still have a room of nasties to fight when I get back down there. 11:08 not lost, had to drop is more accurate. 11:10 It's a plain knife, +3. Thanks, Odin 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2334 (0:22:13) 11:21 -!- bugsniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:22 i love #genocided so much 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) genocided black dragons, on T:115076 (2 days, 2:41:39) 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) genocided shocking spheres, on T:115077 (2 days, 2:41:48) 11:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:115078 (2 days, 2:43:03) 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:115080 (2 days, 2:45:39) 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2963 points, T:3043, killed by a bugbear 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:115355 (2 days, 2:54:55) 11:36 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:36 mobileuser, you just get blasted re: wielding tsurugi as hooa'd samurai 11:36 same with healer and aescalapius 11:37 thx for checking! 11:37 no prob 11:37 only reason I keep inethack2 on my phone :P 11:38 heh 11:39 I spend all my power dealing bouncing magic missiles on a snow golem 11:39 then it dies to a bear trap I didn't set xd 11:39 snow golems are spooky 11:40 They have so much hp and hit like a truck 11:40 Even with -15 AC, I was chunked after every melee encounter 11:40 (-15ac is not that great for kathryn and below) 11:41 i'd be a little concerned what the mammoths are gonna do to you 11:41 kathryn's level especially has an assload of hard-hitting melee monsters 11:41 Yep, had to kite him around 11:42 Problem is, I don't know the identity of scroll of remove curse and need 1 more scroll of enchant armor to dragon scale my armor 11:43 Facing a titan on Medusa's level, black dragon and cube on Fort ludios without reflection 11:43 you can identify remove curse unambiguously if you know enchant armor using a store 11:43 I have the identify spell, so identifying isn't an issue 11:43 only uncurse and armor are at the 40gp level 11:43 it's finding the scroll 11:43 sorry, you said you don't know the identity of scroll of remove curse, i didn't understand that to mean you had not found remove curse 11:44 if you have something you really need to uncurse you could try fountain-dipping if it isn't a potion, scroll, or spellbook 11:44 Oh ye I could've been clearer 11:44 It's only to produce holy water 11:44 !whereis imanity 11:44 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] Imanity [evil]: (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) T:36082 The Ice Queen's Realm level: 23 11:45 you could try to pick up some silver scales from the silver dragons at kathryn 11:45 I have silver scales from reverse genociding 11:45 Just no scroll of enchant armor 11:45 then wear them? 11:45 Would lose a ton more AC 11:45 who cares if it's not in the armor slot 11:46 all you need to wear it for is the one dragon 11:46 put it on, magic missile it to death and then move on with your life 11:46 Will do that when I'm mentally prepared for fort ludios 11:46 and if there's one in the castle 11:47 oh wait I misread, I thought the black dragon was at medusa 11:47 No, a Titan 11:47 you should get out of kathryn's branch and go do castle then 11:47 Looks like it 11:47 Will run back to stash and get a wand of opening for the crystal chest 11:47 Will give a chance for my energy to regen to face the titan 11:48 you have EotA? 11:48 No, not a chance I'll beat the dark one 11:48 Spellpower regen is a huge issue 11:48 Planning on getting the wand, making my wishes, then considering him 11:49 I think you are overestimating the dark one 11:49 he is not very strong 11:49 I've died to him like 3 times 11:49 with -25 to -30 AC 11:49 AC doesn't matter against the dark one, really 11:49 It's mainly killing him before he kills you 11:49 since it protects against phys damage 11:49 you could just boulder fort and zap at him 11:50 Would magic missile be enough to take him out? 11:50 With the MR from EotA 11:50 no, but you can get him with wands and stuff 11:51 I'll check if I have enough 11:51 do you not know any other attack spells? besides force bolt obviously 11:51 No 11:51 Can't sacrifice for them either 11:51 Or get magicbane, except as a wish 11:51 why not 11:51 Atheist 11:51 lame 11:51 So missing -9 AC too 11:52 Yep, not having any of the advanced artifacts sucks 11:52 They were added since my last ascension and look really fun 11:52 But it is what it is 11:53 forged artifacts were in the game in your last ascension 11:53 Aye 11:53 But not armor of retribution 11:53 Dichotomy 11:53 ah 11:53 and the other one 11:53 the barding 11:54 well you don't want dichotomy or the barding anyway 11:54 I think the barding would be really good 11:54 it's good but you're wizard and they don't really need any help from pets 11:54 I see it as a bonus 11:55 Especially now, when I'm kind of stuck 11:55 it would be better to use gauntlets of purity 11:55 Maybe 11:56 giant strength for illithid combined with death resistance and reflection is way better than anything a pet could do for you 11:56 anyway, just run down to the castle and grab the free wishes then do quest and you're solid 11:57 Think that's the best choice 11:57 you could always sleaze the dark one with paralysis 11:57 No ring of free action. Only shield of mobility 11:57 good enough, really 11:58 Does it have any other source of MR? 11:58 so use a shield, you'll be beating him to death when you arent hitting him with a potion 11:58 @e?dark one 11:58 Dark One (h) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d6 claw amulet steal, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -10 | omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 11:58 no 11:58 just make sure he doesnt eat your brains 11:58 I'm an illithid 11:58 there you go, you're sure 11:58 oh then what're you worried for 11:58 he can't do shit to you 11:58 His arcane attacks 11:58 Curse 11:58 Acid blast 11:59 acid blast is the only dangerous one 11:59 curse is a minor annoyance at best 11:59 at worst 11:59 I still don't have holy water 11:59 Hopefully will find a scroll of remove curse by the time I get to him 11:59 But haven't found one all game, not even in shops 11:59 fountains also are nice 11:59 Yeah 12:00 idk, you're wizard, problems tend to get figured out quick when playing wiz 12:00 That's what I've found 12:00 Early game is a nightmare, but only gets better 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1691 (0:15:26) 12:01 If I had both those scrolls, I would have 0 issue with the castle 12:01 But guess progressing there is my only option 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1870 (0:18:08) 12:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:09 Really most you need is a couple of blessed remove curse in a sack 12:09 and/or the spell 12:10 you can always pray after for cursed gear 12:10 Can't pray 12:10 Atheist conduct, remember? 12:10 Problem is I haven't found any scroll of remove curse 12:10 Have to keep exploring until I do 12:11 You're a wizard, just get your luck up and then write o-- oh. 12:11 :B 12:11 Any unicorns around? 12:11 Ye, one co-aligned unicorn about 12 levels from where the castle will be 12:12 I'll likely take the wand of wishing to him 12:12 before using 12:12 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:19 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:21 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:46 i played for like a decade before ever using #pray or #offer because i just didn't know about them... 12:46 I read spoilers in every game I play xD 12:48 i did about 15 years unspoiled 12:48 (vanilla, not evilhack...i only lasted unspoiled in evilhack a few months before k2 broke me) 12:50 EPI: all players start with an apparently-worthless object (which varies depending on role, e.g., for Tourists it can be the starting tin-opener), but if it ever leaves your inventory, a flag is set that doubles the difficulty level of monster spawns for the rest of the game. 12:51 Make that item a heavy iron ball, and we got ourselves a deal xd 12:52 Well, for Convict it would be that, obviously. 12:52 Iron ball of liberation xD 12:52 No, just the _starting_ heavy iron ball. 12:53 How much does that weigh? 12:53 Not sure. Quite a bit I think. 12:53 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 13:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:38650 (14:44:52) 13:00 Scary. Had to fight a flind+baby yellow dragon alongside her 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:116899 (2 days, 4:14:30) 13:02 Imanity, no more iron ball of liberation in evilhack 13:02 Aye, saw it was changed to a shirt 13:02 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:02 I'm guessing so drows can be convicts? 13:03 no, drow could be convicts the same way everyone else, by never taking the awful quest artifact :-) 13:03 xD 13:03 now convicts want their quest artifact 13:04 Yeah, it's fair enough 13:04 They have to go through hell in the early game 13:04 well, unless you are lazy and scum for a fountain nymph 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:117060 (2 days, 4:23:21) 13:10 what's the new convict quest reward? 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:117069 (2 days, 4:23:50) 13:10 Striped shirt 13:11 Bars you from shops and can't cover it up. Invoke for phasing 13:11 Some passive stats I can't remember to make it on par with others 13:11 yeah it is excellent now 13:12 gives mr 13:13 niiiice 13:13 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 13:13 phasing is an amazing power to have. 13:13 might consider playing convict. 13:13 especially if you get the wand ludios! 13:14 Which variant is that? 13:15 The caged centaur one? 13:16 yeah 13:16