00:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:85591 (23:27:57) 00:01 just for the record... got the Eye again. 00:05 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 00:05 I think Vecna must have a thousand eyes and be one-handed. 00:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Cav Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2998 (0:55:51) 00:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Cav Gia Fem Neu), 984 points, T:3005, killed by a piranha 00:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:4107 (0:39:14) 00:29 Wizards with low starting int suck. Will be able to cast identify around turn 5.5k 00:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 2916 points, T:4882, killed by an elven king 00:35 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3770 (0:25:43) 01:09 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4994 (2:06:19) 01:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4460 (1:02:48) 01:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4616 (1:05:22) 01:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 4407 points, T:6301, killed by a dwarf king 02:10 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:30 thousand-eyed hook-handed Vecna is canon for me now 02:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 704 points, T:1959, killed by a mountain dwarf 03:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 arrows on an altar, on T:4612 (0:24:07) 03:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had an axe entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:6236 (0:36:10) 03:55 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:7743 (3:50:00) 04:00 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:7802 (3:54:35) 04:32 -!- tinklebear has left #evilhack 04:39 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:10244 (1:57:03) 05:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:12772 (2:12:00) 05:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 9081 points, T:13282, killed by a scroll of earth 05:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Inf Ith Mal Una), 621 points, T:2114, killed by a large spider, while frozen by a monster's gaze 05:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Kni Dro Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1055 (0:06:23) 05:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 587 points, T:1061, killed by a bolt of cold 06:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 1825 points, T:2476, quit 06:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 273 points, T:953, killed by a black pudding 06:13 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:13 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1458 (0:10:07) 06:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:26 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1876 (0:14:31) 06:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 1740 points, T:1907, poisoned by a rotted hobgoblin corpse 06:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 305 points, T:1306, killed by a little dog, while frozen by a monster's gaze 07:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2598 (0:52:03) 07:32 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 07:44 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:08 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1009 points, T:1275, killed by a sewer rat 08:10 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:15 last commit is live finally hah 08:24 changed something about monster generation? 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:37296 (12:38:00) 08:33 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/76eacd0b14268b9d8ae6072e6d2f8936e30c1c3f 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a saber entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:37777 (12:45:13) 08:35 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:36 oh cool zombie thing is live 08:40 dammit lady, every weapon you give me is too heavy to offhand 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:38670 (17:03:10) 08:43 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:51 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:18524 (1:14:48) 08:53 oh comma baby 08:55 ew random blessed magic lamp didn't give wish 08:56 stingy djinnis 08:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:59 wait, the pyec gives half spell damage? wild 08:59 I never knew that 09:03 !lastgame tinklebear 09:03 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1695787468.evil.html 09:04 what a lame bones 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 16554 points, T:19563, killed by a Vita Fidelia 09:05 a winged gargoyle, for the record 09:05 @e?winged gargoyle 09:05 winged gargoyle (g) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 15 | Res: petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Atk: 3d6 claw physical, 3d6 claw physical, 3d4 bite physical | Align: -12 | genocidable, flies, breathless, thick hide, oviparous 09:05 !lastgame 09:05 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k3ut0i/evilhack/dumplog/1695884428.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1695856294.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1694601472.evil.html 09:05 0 MR, no sleep resistance, sleep bolt does nothing. cool 09:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 24 points, T:18, killed by an exploding rune 09:07 exploding rune??? 09:07 !lastgame Loggers 09:07 k3ut0i: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1695906391.evil.html 09:08 Oh, book explosion 09:08 book yeah 09:08 cool, found a ring of slow digestion on level one 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 223 points, T:520, killed by an exploding wand 09:10 hah, hah. 09:10 lot of explosions man. between you and me, there are gonna be a lot of tortle bones 09:11 "bones! let's see what cool armor they had... oh no, another tortle!" 09:11 I was getting consistently far with tortle healer there for a while but then I got impatient 09:16 I just wanna wiiiin alreadyy 09:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:777 (0:04:56) 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1087 (0:06:51) 09:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a pair of stone gauntlets entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:40511 (13:31:43) 09:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1557 (0:10:18) 09:26 yay gk marker 09:30 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:33 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:44 my tortle got stuck in a gap, and can't get out :(, hoping some digging monster is gonna come or teleport scroll drops :( 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had Dramborleg bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:41557 (13:58:01) 09:47 yay! mr! 09:47 too bad it blasts me almost to death constantly 09:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 12536 points, T:14277, killed by a dwarf lady 09:54 almost 5k turns stuck before dying :| 09:55 :( 10:08 that is rough k3ut0i -- i've had that happen before and eventually been sprung by a dwarf 10:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 4268 points, T:3327, killed by a centaurian watchman 10:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 22 points, T:77, killed by a boiling potion 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:44335 (14:30:26) 10:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 80 points, T:193, killed by a gas cloud 10:22 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:25 @e?beholder 10:25 beholder (e) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 6 | Res: cold shock poison petrification | Confer: poison | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -8 | Atk: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d25 gaze sleep, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 4d4 gaze cancellation, 8d8 bite physical | Align: -10 | genocidable, flies, breathless, nopoly, infravis 10:33 -!- Loggers_VIII99 has joined #evilhack 10:33 -!- Loggers_VIII99 has quit [Client Quit] 10:34 -!- Log has joined #evilhack 10:34 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:37 -!- Log is now known as Loggers_VIII 10:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:42 -!- Log has joined #evilhack 10:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:49 -!- Log is now known as Loggers_VIII 10:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3663 (0:56:51) 11:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3836 (0:59:12) 11:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1760 (0:37:32) 11:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:03 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±9] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/76eacd0b1426...a544e5f344b0 11:03 [EvilHack] k21971 4b4d4ec - Show forge recipes in object lookup (pokedex). 11:03 [EvilHack] k21971 a544e5f - Forging sling bullets. 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death (poisoned by a locust), on T:55114 (1 day, 4:59:26) 11:21 hackemslashem, adding forge recipes to obj lookup was a nice idea 11:28 K2: Thanks! 11:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4493 (1:19:35) 11:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) became literate by reading The Shepherd's Crown, on T:4528 (1:20:18) 12:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 daggers on an altar, on T:5801 (1:44:16) 12:23 !who 12:23 K2: [hdf-eu] k3ut0i [evil] Imanity [evil] :: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] tinklebear [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 12:23 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 12:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:6516 (2:00:51) 12:24 Imanity is this the game with the MMF pet? 12:24 I got a double bones, with a hostile fully armored winged gargoyle pet. High risk high reward 12:24 ^ this 12:24 K2 Nah, that died to a poisonous attack by an eel 12:25 :( 12:25 This one has a gold draon tho :D 12:25 lol 12:25 you just getting lucky with polytraps? 12:25 or starting with a wand of poly? 12:25 Started with wand of polymorph 12:25 nice 12:25 I don't go deep into the mines any more, until 34% poison res 12:26 shame to lose that char 12:26 no you want 35% pois res 12:26 Oh yeah 12:26 Same with gollum's cave. They can spawn in there 12:26 large spiders are safe to eat fyi 12:26 Aye 12:27 Problem with having a dragon, is you lose so many useful corpses 12:28 Even if it doesn't use engulf attack, often beats you to eat 12:30 pets in evilhack wont eat until actually hungry 12:30 but yeah the engulf attack 12:31 dragon engulf is amazing! take it to where the wraiths are 12:31 Not a bad idea 12:31 Like steroids for your dragon xD 12:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Loggers' ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:6522 (1:59:15) 12:34 side news - dumbledore died again 12:34 actor Michael Gambon passed away 12:36 i didn't know The Singing Detective was also Dumbledore 12:36 sad to hear that, I loved his dumbledore. 12:37 That's sad. Didn't know he was in so many movies outside the harry potter series 12:39 :/ 12:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:52002 (16:54:22) 12:52 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:52384 (16:56:54) 12:58 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:58 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 13:00 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:03 K2 Just got an error in Sokoban 13:03 Version mismatch for file "soko3-2.lev", couldnt load file, making a maze. Program in disorder 13:04 Lets me continue, but I'm fairly certain what's in front of me, isn't a maze 13:04 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 13:10 Since when do eels have poisonous attacks? 13:11 (They don't, jellyfish do) 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a steel helmet entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:53914 (17:18:20) 13:15 Imanity i updated the game but at the time i thought no one was playing 13:15 you must have connected right before i updated 13:16 this update was like a fresh recompile, everything gets updated 13:16 Ah, will it lead to any problems with this file? 13:16 that level is now a maze 13:16 save/reload 13:16 Alright 13:16 will be interesting to see the next soko level 13:17 Ye. That one had a minotaur. Resembled mine's end xD 13:25 Just got back to sokoban, and the level hasn't been reloaded. Posted what it looks like in the discord 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Dispater, on T:55463 (1 day, 5:10:34) 13:27 Tried save/reloading both upstairs, and on the level 13:28 I'm afraid it will stay a maze 13:29 Oh well. Just hope there's a downstairs 13:29 right it'll stay a maze. just had you save/reload so it doesnt happen again 13:29 *shouldnt* happen again 13:29 Ok 13:30 Yep, looks like 3rd level is back to sokoban 13:30 i wonder if there's an upstairs still 13:30 whew ok 13:30 There is 13:30 sorry bout that 13:30 No problem 13:30 i thought i made sure no one was playing when i updated 13:30 timing must have been split second 13:30 Ye 13:31 Was nice change to sokoban actually 13:31 hey but now look in your inventory and select an inv letter for a weapon or armor 13:31 something that can be forged 13:32 It's fine 13:32 Sokoban can get kind fo boring at times, so was nice change of pace 13:32 no i mean pick an obj in inv 13:32 that orcish chain mail 13:32 Oh ye 13:32 hit m 13:33 'forging recipes' 13:33 Ah, those are the new things which were added? 13:33 i dont see forging recipe information? 13:34 hdf-us isnt updated yet 13:34 always someone playing evilhack 13:34 ah you tease 13:34 i cant update until no one is playing it 13:34 otherwise weird things 13:35 this'll be my last update to evilhack before i leave 13:35 after tonight, wont see me til oct 16th :P 13:35 maybe 15th 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:57218 (17:52:32) 13:51 Can you temporarily disable playing EvilHack while doing the update to ensure that no-one is playing during the update? 13:52 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 13:54 i can yeah but it literally takes 2 seconds to run the install script 13:54 in Imanity's case, just dumb timimg 13:54 Yeah, was pretty unlucky 14:34 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:35 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:56117 (1 day, 5:49:07) 14:37 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 14:50 !tell Loggers_VIII Not sure why you think Vita Fidelia, my most faithful of pets, would not possess sleep resistance 14:50 Loggers_VIII shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, tinklebear. 14:50 ;-) 14:53 It certainly did not have cold resistance 14:53 hah 14:53 it had like -16AC though 14:55 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible tinklebear's ghost, the former Sergeant, on T:14447 (4:00:27) 14:58 * K2 slaps Loggers_VIII around a bit with a large trout 14:58 hi 14:58 Hello Loggers_VIII, Welcome to #evilhack 14:58 Loggers_VIII: Message from tinklebear at 2023-09-28 14:50 EDT: Not sure why you think Vita Fidelia, my most faithful of pets, would not possess sleep resistance 14:58 tinklebear ur stupid gargoyle ended my amazing run >:( 14:59 doh 14:59 what even is a vita fidelia 14:59 My starting horse 14:59 's name 15:00 also k2 idk if you noticed but my death was "killed by a Vita Fidelia" and not "killed by a winged gargoyle named Vita Fidelia" 15:00 I think that is wrong? 15:03 -!- Log has joined #evilhack 15:04 @e?barrow wight 15:04 barrow wight (W) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 5 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Atk: 0d0 weapon level drain, 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 touch cold, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -3 | genocidable, breathless, stalker 15:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:05 that is odd 15:06 Sounds like an opportunity for many YAFMs 15:06 I've noticed on the unique deaths page on nethackscoreboard, too, there's deaths going back to early 2000s where the player was killed by a "obvious pet name" 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:56679 (1 day, 6:22:39) 15:13 oh baby I am healer and extra healing is smoky 15:14 My pet hit a levelporter on that bugged level. Any idea where it might be? 15:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 6219 points, T:12127, killed by an invisible stalker 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1729 (0:20:02) 15:16 imanity did you check all of soko? 15:16 oh your dead 15:17 Yeah, checked all of sokoban using telepathy and magic whistle 15:17 Was going down to check DoD, but it probably vanished into the nether 15:19 level teleport can teleport it out of sokoban 15:19 It was on DL 8, so checked the big room on DL11 15:19 Could've been just outside of sokoban, on DL 6 or 5 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2616 (0:23:54) 15:20 Had insanely bad AC. Pet was kind of carrying me 15:20 Oh well 15:20 :( 15:21 * tinklebear knows the feeling 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:56684 (1 day, 6:34:26) 15:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:16700 (4:26:24) 15:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 72 points, T:156, killed by a sewer rat 15:24 I wanted to escape gelcube and zapped poly at it. It turned into a yellow dragon and is breathing acid on me :/ 15:25 LOL 15:25 xD 15:25 Thankfully it didn't go full arch-lich on me. I even had a genocide scroll, don't know why I didn't just do that. 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3701 (0:29:29) 15:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:16735 (4:29:38) 15:26 honestly yellow dragons seem like decent genocide targets these days 15:26 genocide is the scroll of fun removal 15:26 imo 15:27 i largely agree 15:27 but only when i haven't died to a gelcube recently 15:28 :D 15:28 I disagree, there are monsters that make the game actively more fun by not existing 15:28 I do exaggerate a little. energy vortices and centaurs with body armor test my patience 15:28 energy vortices?? centaurs?? you sweet summer child 15:28 why would you genocide yellow dragons? such amazing pets! 15:29 centaurs with body armor a massive pain. I hated the ranger quest 15:29 yellow dragon with ithilmar is probably the best dragon 15:29 i'm genocided my last gelcube too until i'm sure i don't want to eat a wooden ring :-) 15:29 in the early game there are some monsters that aren't fun because you have no recourse against them, but that's also when you're least likely to get a genocide 15:29 #woodchuckseatwoodk2 15:29 late game, scary monsters make things more interesting 15:30 lategame monsters that aren't fun IMO include antimatter vortices, black dragons, beholders and all the lich varieties 15:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a helm of speed, on T:17042 (4:33:58) 15:30 antimatter vortices and black dragons break the flow of gameplay in a way I don't like, beholders are boring and liches are annoying 15:30 very nice 15:30 see, when I face an antimatter vortex, I am excited and on the edge of my seat. 15:30 not so with energy vortices 15:31 why? they're just annoying 15:31 they say there is no accounting for taste, Log 15:31 I used to like the feeling of "I could die at any moment" but then I died at too many moments 15:31 hah 15:31 ESPECIALLY in evil 15:32 :) 15:32 I must splat lategame more than the rest of these guys combined 15:33 which is funny once or twice. but now I just get annoyed for like 2 minutes and then start another run lol 15:33 hahaha 15:34 tinklebear have you won evil? 15:34 I forget 15:34 no 15:35 i am late-game-death-averse 15:35 -!- Log has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:35 -!- Log has joined #evilhack 15:35 Likewise. Dying early is fine. But after you've already invested a dozen hours, it sucks 15:36 I try to be lategame-death averse 15:36 but the adrenaline gets pumping and then I get stupid -__ 15:36 *-_- 15:37 most of my late game deaths are pretty unforgettable 15:37 (for me) 15:38 I can't keep track of what happens lategame anymore whether I ascend or not 15:38 I remember up to lucifer and then I get possessed or something 15:38 I do remember once I got beheaded on astral, though 15:38 * tinklebear has faced Lucifer only once 15:39 lucifer is fun I like him 15:39 gets my heart beatin 15:40 he was pretty fun! 15:40 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:40 -!- Log has quit [Client Quit] 15:40 He probably could have killed me if he hadn't spent so much time killing my pets 15:42 anyway, I get a lot of pleasure out of the "Or Die Trying" part 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a wooden knife entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:61108 (19:20:40) 15:44 and I like a game to be *hard* enough to make the "Or Die Trying" part feel believable 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:61929 (19:25:55) 15:49 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:50 Funny that the one particular death you remember is the one when you literally lost your head 15:51 (you == Log, who has left the building apparently) 15:53 "Dying early is fine. But after you've already invested a dozen hours, it sucks" 15:54 I think I consider the reverse to be true 15:55 never really thought of it in those terms before 15:55 In terms of time investment, I don't mind losing any of my early runs 15:55 hah. Time! 15:56 Having to re-start scum is a pain, but just more things to learn from 15:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:02 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1091 (0:10:28) 16:07 "It hits! Your red-eyed shield deflects its attack." <-- when my shield's type is unidentified 16:08 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:10 heh, and it remains unidentified 16:10 cool! 16:10 well, i know it's a red-eyed shield now 16:10 :D 16:11 kinda hoping for reflection :( 16:12 pretty clever way to find one 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:63490 (19:54:54) 16:17 Isn't that always an orcish shield? 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:63492 (19:55:03) 16:19 terrapin is blind, Noisytoot 16:20 Playing zen, p. sure 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:63683 (19:58:32) 16:24 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:37 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 16:38 "without incident"... sounds like you didn't soil your diapers or something 16:39 Hi, as an experiment I read my scroll of taming on a baby shadow dragon to make it my pet. After he killed a few monsters he grew up into an adult shadow dragon and immediately became untame. He never ate any of the monsters he killed. In order to re-make him my pet, do I throw food to him or is only a blessed scroll of taming the way to get 16:39 it as my pet again? 16:39 !whereis dbanethacker 16:39 tinklebear: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil]: (Val Hum Fem Neu) T:39754 The Dungeons of Doom level: 22 16:39 throwing food definitely won't work 16:39 I'm 1 level above Medusa's lair - she's already defeated. 16:40 The dragon is 1 level below me right now. 16:40 taming *should* work, but it also shouldn't have become untame unless there's a recent change to pets, so idk for sure 16:40 @e?shadow dragon 16:40 shadow dragon (D) | Lvl: 22 | Diff: 24 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: sleep poison | MR: 25 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -4 | Atk: 4d6 breath level drain, 4d8 bite physical, 4d6 claw physical, 4d6 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest | Align: -15 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis, poisonous 16:40 @e?baby shadow dragon 16:40 baby shadow dragon (D) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 25 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 3d8 bite physical, 3d4 claw physical, 3d4 claw physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, poisonous 16:40 neutral baby, chaotic adult, according to the bot 16:40 Yeah he fired a shot of his new breath level drain at me. 16:41 and you are lawful 16:41 That's standard for baby dragons alignment-wise 16:41 I'm neutral 16:41 ...yeah the bot output said neutral 16:41 bot isn't quite update---the baby is also chaotic in 0.8.3. and it shouldn't matter for valks 16:41 ^ 16:41 s/update/up-to-date 16:41 ah ty, dbanethacker 16:41 If it was a Knight then it'd make perfect sense 16:42 So what to do? Go back down and re-tame it with a new scroll? Is it worth keeping? 16:42 is it for sure untame, or is it just that it breathed at you? 16:42 * tinklebear strongly doubts hunger is the reason for it becoming hostile 16:43 it could have been confused or conflicted, i think 16:43 My (dead) pegagus's saddle is on the castle level, a few more levels down. He's definitely untame, as he went from a highlighted pet to non-highlighted. 16:43 hmm 16:43 oh you're wearing dragonbane 16:43 Oh, that could be it as well, perhaps then. 16:44 shadow dragons are awesome pets but maybe not worth giving up dragonbane 16:44 when he grew up then maybe the code suddenly enforced Dragonbane? 16:44 >Dragonbane 16:44 dawg come on 16:44 Yeah it's my only reflection, although I guess I could burn a wish for a " of reflection 16:45 lmao 16:45 why were you able to tame it in the first place? 16:45 are baby shadow dragons not dragons? 16:45 yeah that's weird 16:45 blessed scroll of taming - I probably had the foresight to take it off before reading the ? of taming. 16:45 yeah that implies a different kind of weird behavior 16:45 but it should have untamed as soon as you put it on 16:45 and then you put it back on without thinking probably 16:45 there was a recent change to banes 16:46 babies are more accepting 16:46 they don't know what racism is 16:46 now they only anger stuff that can see you 16:46 ^ 16:46 hmmm, yeah - that's something for the coders to check and enforce, perhaps? 16:46 it may be there was some weird interaction there 16:47 So the plan to keep it needs to be to 1) remove dragonbane, 2) read another ? of taming, and 3) put on DB again. But if he goes hungry or I jump off for whatever reason then he might "un-tame" again and I have to repeat the process? It sounds more like buggy code, perhaps? 16:48 I can live without it as a pet, I guess, as it's close to the middle of the game and I have celestial armor so I can fly already. It would have been nice to have him as a pet, though. 16:49 Any other ideas or advice/recommendations? 16:49 polymorf it into something less dragon-y 16:49 :D 16:50 i don't think you could wear dragonbane again 16:50 Sure - I'll ride it as a wumpus! Wait - I have no wands of polymorph and can't force it to wear a ring of poly control. That would be something - I wear the ring of poly control and get to decide what my pet morphs into? LOL 16:50 i mean, maybe there's a bug somewhere, but it should be that when it sees you it'll get angry 16:50 Yeah - there goes some very good armor. You guys all make good points, thanks for the advice. 16:51 you can't choose what your monsters poly into 16:51 s/your // 16:51 it's a surprise! 16:51 (outside of wizmode) 16:52 everybody loves surprises 16:53 Right. I went downstairs without wearing the DB armor and he engulfed me. So he isn't tame. And since it's Medusa's level I don't think I could teleport out. So I had to kill him. 16:53 RIP, erstwhile beloved companion 16:53 He didn't even have the decency to leave me some shadow scales, alas. 16:54 you could have teleported him 16:54 dang, no polymorph, no undead turning wand. I guess his corpse is going to rot. 16:54 Literally just teleport the dragon instead 16:54 It's like in Sokoban 16:55 tinning kit? 16:55 (probablynot) 16:55 I have a tinnning kit - but already have sleep and poison resistance. Why tin it? 16:55 a memento for the mantelpiece, in loving memory 16:55 D'oh for not trying to teleport the dragon while I'm inside it - wouldn't that take me with it to wherever it goes? 16:56 Medusa's no-teleport like you just said, remember? 16:56 A mantelpiece - of course! Silly me. 16:56 on a no-tele level, I believe it would, dbanethacker 16:56 Right - that was my original dilemna when inside its stomach. 16:56 oh, wait no. just the dragon maybe? 16:56 * tinklebear forgets every time 16:57 perhaps elsewhere, but on a no-teleport level it would have made for an interesting message, perhaps? 16:57