00:04 it's a hard call as far as disint goes, depends a lot on your build and its ranged options 00:05 lol okay, at turn 25k (and AC -30)  I have now also identified scroll of enchant armor 00:06 right now, my ranged option is a lance... 00:07 as a knight it seems likely you'll want SoA at some point. in which case you definitely want intrinsic disintegration resistance in case it gets balrog'd 00:07 +1 00:07 yeah 00:11 -!- hasselhoff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Cerberus, on T:50159 (1 day, 1:24:45) 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:50167 (1 day, 1:24:52) 01:28 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:1843 (0:25:00) 01:37 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 01:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2209 (0:34:09) 01:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:50646 (1 day, 1:50:53) 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:32576 (12:00:14) 02:18 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:7977 (1:33:35) 02:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:8642 (1:36:39) 03:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by Kathryn the Ice Queen), on T:33550 (13:05:55) 03:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:33566 (13:07:44) 03:04 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:02 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:06 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 04:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) destroyed dingotron's ghost, the former Prisoner, on T:12535 (2:35:49) 04:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:14247 (2:41:29) 04:42 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Glad it was a chameleon, but was still a close call. 06:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:5236 (3:53:22) 07:15 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:22556 (4:36:03) 07:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24724 (4:57:54) 08:20 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 870 points, T:2114, killed by a mountain dwarf 08:22 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:26 -!- elenmirie has quit [Client Quit] 08:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a trident entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:29844 (5:49:29) 08:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 08:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:30642 (5:59:06) 08:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:30940 (6:01:08) 09:05 grr god wont uncurse my wielded weapon 09:07 :/ 09:14 what is the safe refractory period, about 300 turns before praying again for minor trouble to my stupid god? 09:15 I think so 09:16 guess not! now displeased so i am totally screwed 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 236 points, T:391, killed by a wand 09:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:28 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 1182 points, T:1578, killed by the Goblin King 09:34 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:9459 (3:30:14) 10:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 157914 points, T:36454, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while paralyzed by a monster 10:12 :( first time got caught be gelcube 10:12 by* 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:11021 (4:18:32) 10:29 oh snap 10:32 🫰 10:38 does hexchat not support utf-8? 10:39 it does, maybe you just don't have the right font installed 10:40 so what was k2's last message supposed to be? 10:40 i mean, as a fallback i have unifont 10:41 hand with index finger and thumb crossed 10:42 hexchat doesn't support multi-codepoint emoji properly (it displays them, but it displays each codepoint individually if you try selecting them and messes up the selection for everything after in the message because the displayed length and actual length is different), but that's not one of them 10:42 man emoji stuff should have never been added to unicode ffs 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3643 (0:28:01) 10:44 k3ut0i welcome to the club! 10:51 it's a snap emoji :) 10:51 so good morning/afternoon/evening all 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical silver octagonal amulet on an altar, on T:4610 (0:40:09) 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 18400 points, T:14997, killed by an Uruk-hai 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:5247 (0:55:19) 11:11 mobileuser: nice to finally get in. This is the second time my good tourist tortle died due to low speed. Hmm, got to get him fast as fast as possible 11:12 スナップ 11:13 meaning: snapshot? 11:15 just snapping back at k2 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a leocrotta), on T:6409 (1:13:36) 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 4681 points, T:6412, killed by a leocrotta 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7416 (4:13:19) 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a knife entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:11415 (5:04:55) 12:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a splint mail entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:13094 (5:31:59) 12:23 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 932 points, T:2075, killed by the Goblin King, while sleeping 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a bone spear entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:14097 (6:02:46) 12:43 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:35395 (14:33:42) 12:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:15532 (6:19:21) 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a pair of high boots entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:17057 (6:42:01) 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:17270 (6:44:09) 13:45 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 14:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4597 points, T:2727, killed by a giant beetle 14:04 -!- hasselhoff has joined #evilhack 14:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3385 points, T:1896, killed by a giant beetle 14:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 46 points, T:209, killed by a falling rock 14:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:18740 (7:43:27) 14:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1182 (0:07:27) 14:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1626 points, T:1583, diseased by a hobbit zombie 14:28 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:33 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:33 -!- hasselhoff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:09 -!- bouquet has joined #evilhack 15:10 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:29 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 15:37 -!- bugsniper has joined #evilhack 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:53028 (1 day, 3:25:54) 15:40 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:41 where would I find that new branch with the new boss that has something to do with beholders? 15:41 portal from the valley 15:43 cool 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven cloak entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:80064 (21:16:46) 15:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:06 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:08 dang... the very convenient downstairs to votd are removed from the castle now? 16:12 from all the different maps? noticed it missing on standard castle last time 16:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) averted death (diseased by a gnoll witherling), on T:3165 (0:14:37) 16:18 the trap doors are often closer than the stairs anyway 16:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) became literate by reading a book, on T:3280 (0:15:37) 16:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:4325 (0:19:28) 16:23 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:4745 (0:22:01) 16:33 -!- hasselhoff has joined #evilhack 16:34 my castle version was the one with the barred rooms from where the dragons can breathe on you 16:35 just the two big rooms at the drawbridge, not the one with all the little rooms around a central area 16:39 [hdf-us] [evil] hasselhoff (Kni Dro Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:20910 (16:31:50) 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:81756 (21:50:08) 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:81859 (21:51:12) 16:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:26027 (10:06:02) 16:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:49 -!- bugsniper has joined #evilhack 16:56 oh. darn. had an idea that a wand of undead turning would refresh the 'dwarf corpse' dropped by a mummy back into a normal dwarf, so I could sacrifice it. But instead it brought the monster back as a 'dwarf mummy' again. 16:57 that's the case with all undead-left corpses 16:57 as in vanilla 16:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered her faithful dog, on T:9205 (0:55:41) 16:58 well, was worth a shot! Guess I'll just keep the wand for pet revival purposes. or to refresh normal corpses. 17:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:9318 (0:57:21) 17:05 I'm surprised it didn't become a dwarf zombie... 17:06 ya, it would have had to wrap itself back up 17:11 Different (lack of) preservation methods 17:15 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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probably the worst thing i've ever done in the nethack space 17:56 I say it's a silly idea but I do ponder if zombification can't be more of a late game threat, granted it already is since Vecna exists 17:56 "the skeleton dragon loudly rattles its bones" something 17:56 K2, they could be worse after experiencing them as a Grunt priest but then that's Grunt so 17:56 I feel you 17:57 @g?zombie dragon 17:57 No such monster. 17:57 @g?dragon zombie 17:57 No such monster. 17:57 @h?zombie dragon 17:57 zombie dragon (Z) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 17 | Spd: 8 | Res: fire drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 3d8 bite physical, 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 claw physical | Align: -4 | genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, thick hide, seeinvis, infravis 17:57 k2 why were they so bad 17:57 the implementation. just awful 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1182 (0:12:32) 17:58 in my defense, I had *just* started editing/coding nethack 17:58 fledgeling 17:58 what's awful is that they're "zombie dragons" but all other zombies are " zombies" 17:58 I'd exaggerate and say "imagine the worst of Grunt zombies times a thousand" but that's mean 17:59 they do take an awful lot of effort to kill for something that can (and frequently will) revive and isn't reliably disposable by corpse-chewing 17:59 ah hah 17:59 in grunthack they are dragon zombies 17:59 since the zombie crud is handled independent of corpse age 17:59 \o/ 17:59 (which in general means you can get rotten food'd and just instalose the game) 17:59 the way grunthack does zombies - it's just 'zombie' and then a racial template is applied 17:59 I think hackem takes zombie dragons from splicehack 18:00 @g?zombie 18:00 zombie (Z) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 6 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Atk: 1d8 claw physical, 2d1 bite drain int | Align: -3 | genocidable, breathless, mindless, undead, stalker 18:00 ^ template only 18:00 placeholder 18:00 ah 18:01 but yeah, my implementation of them in grunthack is just awful 18:01 i kinda wanna take it back 18:01 dnethack has the opposite (it's just a monster and then a zombie template is applied) 18:01 grunt uses "racial" templates 18:01 ettin, kobold, gnome, dwarf, etc. etc. 18:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1843 (0:17:08) 18:02 if you ever do templates for the undead like that there should be an "X ghost" template and a weapon (shadowblade?) that spawns ghosts of what you kill 18:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 376 points, T:452, killed by a giant bat 18:03 make shadowblade even worse than the other forged artifacts, awesome 18:03 Your Shadowblade draws the life from the ogre! An ogre ghost rises from the corpse." 18:03 krm26: that weapon sounds really useless unless the ghosts are tame 18:03 they could be friendly ghosts 18:03 casper 18:03 like Caspar 18:03 hah yes 18:03 that still sounds really annoying lol 18:03 yes i agree lol 18:04 I'd have to kill casper all the time 18:04 nah, they could preferentially follow you in walls to stay out of your way, and terrify your opponents so they lose a few rounds here and there 18:04 like a walking potion of paralysis buddy 18:04 @e?ghost 18:04 ghost ( ) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 5 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: special | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d1 touch paralyze | Align: -5 | flies, phases, breathless, unsolid, nopoly, stalker, passes-bars, vegan 18:04 or instead give that power to vlad's sword :-) 18:07 yani: groups of intelligent monsters that spawn (hill orc, gnome, kobold, etc) also have a chance to spawn a lord/overlord of that monster class along with them 18:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1633 points, T:1252, killed by a guardian naga hatchling 18:09 think I've mentioned something to that effect previously 18:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:10 I think it could be cool 18:11 group monster encounters as a whole have a lot of potential to be interesting that they don't really live up to 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:17246 (10:39:02) 18:12 yeah 18:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3264 (0:28:25) 18:14 Loggers_VIII that's on my to-do 18:15 oh hah so it is 18:15 nice 18:15 something something great minds 18:15 Hey - looks like the soldiers opening the chest holding the wand of wishing has been fixed ! 18:15 kind of 18:15 the chest is always locked now 18:16 The WoW is at 0 : 3 so that means I could get as many as 7 wishes from it 18:16 if a human/elf captain gets in there then they can still open it but it's a lot less likely someone uses your wishes now 18:16 you'll likely only get three though 18:16 I've only gotten the wrest wish twice I think, the odds are pretty low 18:16 Oh, it's not rechargeable anymore? 18:16 it is 18:16 he meant 6 18:16 oh fuck yeah I meant 6 18:17 Sure.  Now - what to wish for.... 18:17 random WoW's are 1:x 18:17 I have speed, Mojo, t-shirt of decay, bag of Hesperides..... 18:17 (speed boots) 18:17 do you have magic resistance 18:17 Yes, a cloak of MR 18:18 dragonskin, that is 18:18 nice 18:18 do you have any artifact wishes available? 18:18 perhaps - I only had to wish for Mojo in an earlier game, IIRC.  First time in years that I had to wish for MJ 18:19 you always get one free artiwish in evil 18:19 you didn't have to wish for it 18:19 semantics 18:19 Yeah, it was pointed out that I was guilty of impatience. 18:19 And I was.  :-) 18:20 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 18:20 AC is -32 despite all items enchanted at +0, so probably don't need to wish for better armor. 18:21 do you have dragon-scaled armor 18:21 No, it's bone plate mail 18:21 oh wow that's wonderful 18:21 dragon-scale it 18:21 [hdf-us] [evil] hasselhoff (Kni Dro Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:22244 (17:17:00) 18:21 Yes, I lack reflection.  Dragonbane, perhaps? 18:21 in your position I would go for celestial scales or shadow scales 18:22 that's a solid wish 18:22 celestial scales grant flying, and shadow scales give drain resistance and ultravision 18:22 they give other stuff too but you have it already probably 18:23 ultravision is amazing, and so is drain resistance, so I'd probably shadow-scale it and then go for dragonbane as reflection 18:23 Hmmm, I have flying already through boots, ring and Pegasus. 18:23 (lev boots) 18:23 evilhack has flying boots? 18:24 boots of levitation - they come cursed from the Perseus status, most of the time. 18:24 flying is mainly a convenience anyway 18:24 -!- Ride has joined #evilhack 18:24 plus, you have to wish for celestial scales whereas you can wish for a marker and then write reverse genocide for shadow scales 18:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5892 (0:41:49) 18:25 I have drain resistance through the t-shirt, and when it's paired with magic resistance the t-shirt won't easily be destroyed 18:25 t-shirt of decay 18:25 flying is great 18:25 Yes it is! 18:25 I'd still go for shadow scales, for ultravision, but what scales you use doesn't matter too much in your situation 18:26 you've got the major stuff covered 18:26 reverse genocide?  what do you genocide with a cursed ? of genocide to get shadow scales? 18:26 -!- Ride has quit [Client Quit] 18:26 reverse genocide shadow dragons 18:26 ah, got it. 18:26 what's your HP? 18:26 117, kind of low for being at the castle. 18:27 should definitely nurse dance 18:27 My pegasus killed the only nurse before I could rein it in. 18:27 agreed. 18:27 hm, I'm getting a "something casts a spell at you. You reel..." message when a gnomish wizard stuns me 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:36492 (15:42:17) 18:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 celestial dragon scales", on T:36492 (15:42:57) 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:36494 (15:44:12) 18:34 Hmm, my +3 celestial scales merged into my +0 bone plate mail and left it at +0. 18:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +3 Dragonbane", on T:36503 (15:47:39) 18:36 no grease? 18:36 oops 18:36 Loggers_VIII, is the gnomish wizard invisible? 18:36 I have grease - I guess I could have wished for fixed greased +3 Dragonbane, perhaps? 18:37 If you can only see it via telepathy the game treats it the same as other invisible monsters 18:48 -!- hasselhoff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:51 -!- hasselhoff has joined #evilhack 18:59 -!- hasselhoff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:02 Hmmm, I was on my pegasus in the castle next to the hallway with the 4 dragons (2 on each side).  I was swallowed by a dragon but got no message about what happened to the pegasus.  after fighting my way out of the dragon's belly there was no pegasus corpse.  It didn't go 1 level below, and my magic whistle didn't get it to come back to my side. 19:02 Any ideas? 19:02 umbire, that's probably it re: gnomish wizard, it had ring of invis 19:02 dbanethacker it died 19:03 -!- dbanethacker31 has joined #evilhack 19:03 it's most likely dragon food m8 19:03 You think it was killed when I was swallowed? 19:03 after 19:04 Bummer.  IIRC it had a saddle on it as well - no saddle on the floor.  Could it be a bug? 19:04 engulfing only dismounts you, if the fighting continued outside of the engulfer then it probably got ate 19:04 might be, no clue 19:04 dragon could be standing on the same space as the saddle 19:04 Perhaps, but all dragons are now dead.  Still no saddle. 19:05 it could have been killed over a hole, and the saddle fell in 19:05 slash-trap door 19:05 right, trapdoor 19:05 wait - there is a saddle - sorry for not spotting it. 19:05 lol 19:06 lol 19:06 Mystery solved, thanks all for the possibilities. 19:06 always assume PEBCAK first 19:06 saved me a fair bit of trouble :B 19:06 I don't consider that personally, I'm infallible and can't make mistakes 19:06 That's PEBKAC othewise you're pronouncing it as sack instead of kak 19:07 you get the damned idea!!!! 19:07 and yes that was the problem!! 19:07 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:07 but yeah is harmless ribbing 19:07 At least it wasn't an IT10T error 19:07 anyway elves now 19:07 :-) 19:07 and then, elves 19:07 ID10T - can't spell anything today 19:08 lmao it's ok 19:09 I mention elves because I'm dipping into Tolkien again (also reading The Hobbit) and fleshing out their articles 19:09 well I got some silver and some red dragon scales out of it.  Could put them on a spare set of armor 19:09 might want another eye on it 19:09 yeah I noticed you goin through some of the elf monster articles 19:10 one of my twelve greatest sins is liking the hobbit more than lotr :P 19:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 7509 points, T:5507, killed by a bolt of fire 19:10 TH:TDOS sure had a lot of conjecture in it, eh? 19:11 or was it TH:TBO5A ? 19:11 tdos? tbo5a? you've lost me 19:11 the desolation of smaug - the battle of 5 armies 19:11 TH - The Hobbit 19:13 ahh 19:13 movies, I see 19:13 Right 19:13 I like the giant worms in the battle of the five armies 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:8024 (0:13:38) 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 shield of reflection", on T:53763 (1 day, 4:15:14) 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:9723 (0:24:05) 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:9892 (0:25:44) 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a spellbook of charm monster given to him by Hermes, on T:10346 (0:29:20) 19:46 brother I'm never going to be able to cast that shit 19:48 not with that attitude 19:48 find a robe about it 19:53 tortle 19:54 I forget what staff is healing 19:54 I know all the rest 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of archer gloves entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:14287 (0:36:48) 19:54 ? 19:54 twisted 19:54 huh, if you're blind then the livelog also doesn't ID it for you 19:54 gauntlets of power, for what it's worth 19:55 i got a livelogged demonbane when i was blind 19:55 i mean it was obvious since i was a priest, but in inventory it was a "heavy mace" 19:56 hah 19:59 Oh, right 20:00 -!- nabbi has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- bouquet has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- krm26 has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- Noisytoot has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- nabbi has joined #evilhack 20:01 -!- nabbi has quit [Changing host] 20:01 -!- nabbi has joined #evilhack 20:08 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 20:09 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 20:10 -!- bouquet has joined #evilhack 20:13 -!- dbanethacker31 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:18 @e?tal'gath 20:18 Tal'Gath (e) | Lvl: 46 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold disintegrate shock poison petrification magic | Confer: disintegrate poison | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 0d0 gaze slow, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 6d6 gaze cancellation, 16d4 cast magic missile, 10d10 bite physical | Align: -18 | flies, breathless, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 20:27 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:29 dont look! 20:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a short sword entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:30145 (10:48:09) 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Hum Fem Law) had a katana entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:30807 (10:56:01) 20:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:48 @e?baalzebub 20:48 Baalzebub (&) | Lvl: 89 | Diff: 45 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 4d6 bite drain str, 2d6 gaze stun, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: 20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 20:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 20:54 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:54 what does M2_MAGIC mean? 20:58 nvm I see 21:04 Loggers_VIII, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Woodland-elf 21:04 unrelated 21:04 wow nice 21:05 I'dve inclined Evil stuff but that means Goblin Town 21:05 and we're gonna need to update that lmao 21:05 love seeing shorter monster pages get lengthened up :) 21:05 oh yeahhhh 21:05 the new level 21:05 ugh 21:05 you can take first crack at that if you want 21:05 lemme finish tal'gath real quick 21:05 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 21:05 imma do the green elf 21:05 no rush, no rush 21:06 watch Imanity's game on eu 21:06 less than 1000 turns in, has a pet master mind flayer 21:06 Quite the adventure, with my little pet xD 21:06 \o/ 21:06 wow 21:06 HAX 21:07 lol 21:07 does tal'gaths magic missile attack count as a spellcasting attack for calculating experience gain from him? 21:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1016 (0:13:57) 21:07 i think so 21:07 cool 21:08 why is this so complicated who designed this 21:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Mon Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6743 (0:51:55) 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of jumping boots entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:7165 (0:53:51) 21:34 Does putting on a helm of opposite alignment violate atheism? 21:36 -!- bugsniper has joined #evilhack 21:37 No 21:37 Good 21:37 P. sure it doesn't, atheism requires direct interaction with religion 21:38 Prob won't take the risk then 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:7535 (0:58:24) 21:38 Having a really good start 21:38 Alignment is specifically that, alignment - what god presides over said alignment is "secondary" in that regard 21:39 Ye 21:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Mon Dro Mal Cha), 13241 points, T:7680, killed by a mumak 21:40 Just realised I can use gold from one dead shopkeeper to pay for what I need from the one my pet can't kill 21:41 Hope I didn't miss an extra 0 when checking price 21:41 CPM would be huge as an early wizard 21:44 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:46 Fuck, CPM is so expensive 21:47 -!- hasselhoff has joined #evilhack 21:51 Does Tal'Garth have any game-ending maneuvers I should know about before I go after him? 21:51 he seems to move hella fast. 21:54 -!- hasselhoff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Kni Dro Mal Cha), 432 points, T:871, killed by the Goblin King 22:06 -!- hasselhoff has joined #evilhack 22:09 Standard beholder shit, killer bite and magic missiles 22:09 @e?Tal'Garth 22:09 Tal'Garth ~1~ Tal'Gath (e) | Lvl: 46 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold disintegrate shock poison petrification magic | Confer: disintegrate poison | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 0d0 gaze slow, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 6d6 gaze cancellation, 16d4 cast magic missile, 10d10 bite physical | Align: -18 | flies, breathless, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 22:09 hmm so far my god has given me zero artifacts or gear, but two intrinsics (speed and telephathy). How interesting or obscure can gifts of intrinsics get? is there only a limited list? or could your god give you weird ones like halu resistance, or beheading resistance? 22:10 oh nm 22:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:770 (0:02:12) 22:10 wiki says "Telepathy, Speed, Stealth" 22:13 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 866 points, T:3110, killed by a newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:13 a newt! 22:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1980 points, T:1826, killed by a warg 22:16 is there a significant payoff for killing him? If there's a good chance of a magic marker I may consider it :) 22:20 There is one I think? 22:20 I don't remember entirely, Loggers might know 22:22 ah, 15% chance of a magic marker 22:38 -!- hasselhoff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:40 I assume you unlock the ability to genocide beholders too 22:41 yup 22:42 How do you access the hidden realm? 22:42 or whatever the branch he's in, is called 22:42 there's a portal in the Valley 22:43 Quite a nice place for a branch 22:43 and unlike most of the other portals, it's not randomly placed, which is kinda nice 22:43 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 22:43 yeah 22:44 does being a tortle negate sewage slowing or is it having the swimming trinsic? 22:44 being a tortle 22:44 thanks 22:46 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 47726 points, T:20851, killed by Mr. Kopasker; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 22:47 Loggers_VIII, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Green-elf 22:47 also lemme guess, another centaur 22:47 !lastgame 22:47 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1695866891.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1695787468.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1694601472.evil.html 22:48 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 22:48 well, no centaur 22:49 k2, tal'gath doesn't have an encyclopedia entry 22:49 I can whip one up 22:49 wow I had no idea there was so much lore behind green-elves 22:49 along with several others 22:49 yeah it's a Whole Thing 22:50 I'm trying to cut it down a bit but can't figure out where 22:50 that was sort of an interface-screw death for me 22:50 already pruning for typos and such but feel free to point them out anyway I might miss 'em 22:51 "You have a little trouble removing $ - 2856 gold pieces." <-- I was prepared to pay 22:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6216 (1:57:55) 22:52 yeah, then you hit n 22:52 no. 22:52 at least that's what the log reports 22:53 You kick the door. KABOOM!! The door was booby-trapped! 22:53 You are caught in the explosion! 22:53 You stagger... "Minx! You did 400 zorkmids worth of damage!" Pay? [yn] (n) 22:53 ...and that was the end 22:54 I was spacing through the message spam to get to the point I could enter a decision... 22:54 I guarantee you a prompt did not appear and then disappear without you pressing something, whether it was a conscious action on your part or not 22:54 lol 22:54 well you got got 22:54 SPACE means I hit SPACE 22:54 I see, I see 22:54 I thought you were just including that in the prompt bit :P 22:54 Instead of spamming, you can hit escape 22:55 Usually skips you to the next available action 22:55 thank you, Imanity. That is very, very useful to know 22:55 Unless there's something which requires space, such as "more" 22:55 cool 22:56 space defaults to n so just keep that in mind when you know a prompt is coming up 22:56 (if you space through messages) 22:57 I do space through messages, because the spacebar is very convenient, and *usually* harmless 22:57 but I will keep ESC in mind from now on 22:58 was a really fun game, despite the unexpected ending 23:04 -!- Imanity has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:04 -!- Imanity has joined #evilhack 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic harp", on T:84176 (22:37:17) 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3059 points, T:4329, killed by a warg, while being terrified of a ghost 23:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a quarterstaff entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:17508 (1:07:47) 23:13 gimme helm of speed 23:16 -!- hasselhoff has joined #evilhack 23:16 @e?drow mummy 23:16 drow mummy (M) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Atk: 2d4 claw wither | Align: -5 | genocidable, breathless, mindless, poisonous 23:18 -!- hasselhoff has quit [Client Quit] 23:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 23:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 5836 points, T:7562, poisoned by a jellyfish 23:24 -!- hasselhoff has joined #evilhack 23:24 One turn killed by a jellyfish. Woop 23:24 @k2 minor bug? Seen via farlook "peaceful drow cleric, riding it " 23:25 'riding it' 23:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 23:25 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 23:30 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:84835 (22:57:13) 23:30 not sure whose sweet little dog named Lucy got lost on the Oracle level, but I'm taking her to sokoban :) 23:30 Later, it turns out the drow was riding a gigantic spider 23:41 hasselhoff, was it that you sensed the cleric since it was telepathic, but couldn't see the spider? 23:42 yes 23:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 44 points, T:45, killed by a gas cloud 23:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:6 (0:00:09) 23:43 The behavior makes sense, just the english grammar of the message is a little off. 23:44 the message should probably just say "riding something", "riding a mount"  or simply "riding" 23:45 or "riding an unseen monster" 23:45 [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:45982 (11:39:46) 23:48 Seen in version 0.8.2-0 Beta. But I wouldn't be surprised if the message is the same in vanilla. 23:53 -!- hasselhoff has quit [Quit: Client closed]