00:02 beholders is visible with telepathy now? 00:02 yes 00:02 I won't complain. 00:03 I'm not sure, but I don't think they are generated asleep now 00:03 I don't seem to have a ludios this game, unless it can spawn beneath medusa. 00:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:38453 (1 day, 0:55:27) 00:09 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 00:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had a spellbook of slow monster given to her by Thoth, on T:38513 (1 day, 0:58:00) 00:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:38782 (1 day, 1:02:22) 00:16 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:17 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 00:18 @e?Shambling Horror 00:18 shambling horror (U) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: none | Align: 0 | carnivore, nopoly, passes-bars 00:21 It can't 00:21 Also double check the vaults above 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Inf Ith Mal Una) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:5458 (1:26:30) 00:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had an elven helm entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:38966 (1 day, 1:16:30) 00:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:7591 (2:48:23) 00:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had a spellbook of invisibility given to her by Thoth, on T:39607 (1 day, 1:34:52) 00:50 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:53 dragonbane vs. GoPur vs. Hand of Vecna? 00:54 looks like dragonbane is the boring but safest choice since i don't have any other source of reflection or acid resist 00:54 acid rests vs death resist vs sickness resist + half damage 00:55 yea i got ' sickness resist + half damage ' from HotG and Muramasa 00:56 so acid resist vs death resist, do you have half spell damage? 00:57 i have angelslayer, can wield 00:58 you'll unlikely to be casting may spells, and already have? giant strength, so I'd probably just keep dragonbane. More AC too 00:58 many* spells 00:59 you already killed graz'zt, gopur would make him easy 00:59 oh why, does it grant steal resistance lol 01:00 Yes, for lawfuls, it grants immunity against seduction attacks. 01:01 He is also a good reason to gopur. Else someone always gates him in, and makes a big mess. 01:01 yet another TIL, ty.. thought seduction means succubus/incubus 01:05 nymph attacks too come under seduction 01:18 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 01:29 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Baby_owlbear 01:29 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Owlbear 01:34 so i've got like 70 potions of healing (1 hp each). wondering if it's worthwhile to turn them into N diluted full healing (4 hp each). I guess depends on whether N>17 01:35 definitely convert them 01:35 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:36 they'll restore 400 HP just like normal full healing, so you can use all your undiluted potions for maxhp growth 01:36 wat, i thought diluted means 1/2 of any effect 01:36 you'll only lose a half-dozen or so to alchemical blasts, probably 01:36 not in the case of full healing 01:36 don't know why 01:37 it is half the maxhp though 01:37 i see 01:38 potions of gain level no longer that useful right? since you get tele'd out from purgatory to castle 01:40 yeah. and no mysterious force, either. usually i bring three or four anyway---the upstairs can get pretty clogged sometimes, and three more potions of full healing or whatever won't make much difference 01:41 yeah, my only ascension last time i figured out tele scrolls and monster detection scrolls also not useful anymore 01:42 i got like, 66 diluted potions of full healing 01:50 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 02:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:40118 (1 day, 2:50:14) 02:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had a copper elven dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:40281 (1 day, 3:04:52) 02:25 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18790 (4:49:09) 02:27 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 02:37 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:19468 (5:01:28) 02:44 -!- joes has joined #evilhack 03:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:40436 (1 day, 3:39:25) 03:12 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:15 -!- bouquet has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:18 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:32 -!- bouquet has joined #evilhack 03:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had an elven helm entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:40935 (1 day, 4:09:13) 03:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:41920 (1 day, 5:26:57) 05:14 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:12 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 06:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:43125 (1 day, 6:47:36) 06:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:43134 (1 day, 6:47:45) 06:19 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:26 -!- joes has left #evilhack 06:35 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:16 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 07:29 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 07:33 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:34 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) murdered her faithful flaming sphere, on T:44095 (1 day, 7:51:54) 07:46 Do monsters cast spells that will kill them? A nalfeshnee cast acid blast at melee range and killed himself... 08:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) murdered her faithful flaming sphere, on T:44725 (1 day, 8:10:36) 08:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Pri Cen Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:5035 (1:02:35) 08:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:109598 (2 days, 1:09:19) 08:29 that was very close. i was just about to poly into a gel cube to eat my rings when a little birdy said, wait, didn't you genocide gel cubes in the early game? 08:29 i dont suppose there is any other monster that can eat wood? 08:30 how disappointing, 54 points of accuracy enchantmnet and no way to eat it! 08:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided gray dragons, on T:109727 (2 days, 1:22:03) 08:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:109728 (2 days, 1:22:08) 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided disenchanters, on T:109728 (2 days, 1:22:11) 08:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided green slimes, on T:109729 (2 days, 1:22:15) 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:109730 (2 days, 1:23:20) 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided shocking spheres, on T:109731 (2 days, 1:23:36) 08:42 How to check what have been genocided in game? 08:46 #genocided (new) 08:48 Okay, I see there's such command in 3.7, but no in evil? 08:49 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 08:50 it is in evil. you might be still playing 0.8.2? 08:50 was just added 08:50 games wont update once started 08:50 Got it, thanks. 08:56 i hope someone comes along and reveals a second mystery monster that eats wood 09:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:110714 (2 days, 1:48:25) 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Pri Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:8010 (1:31:37) 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10287 (3:28:32) 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:105184 (21:23:43) 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:111334 (2 days, 2:02:42) 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Pri Cen Mal Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:8573 (1:39:58) 09:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had a copper elven dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:45271 (1 day, 9:05:50) 09:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:45455 (1 day, 9:10:41) 09:24 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 09:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had a spellbook of poison blast given to her by Thoth, on T:45625 (1 day, 9:15:23) 09:28 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:106499 (21:46:03) 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:106500 (21:46:06) 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Pri Cen Mal Cha) had a blessed leather armor entrusted to him by Mars, on T:9320 (1:56:05) 09:36 omigod that is a lot of crap in the wizards tower 09:37 the first level? yeah lots of monsters to wade through 09:39 glad i genocided beholders, all those bars 09:46 What's the difficult of defeating Tiamat? 09:50 mostly that she has all resistances 09:50 she's a pussycat 09:50 but she's vulnerable to silver 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:1691 (0:12:46) 09:52 Ah okay, and she hit me hard. 09:52 I fight Orcus and he drained my 150 max hp... 09:53 Emmm, I used up maybe 5 wands of lightning and 5 cold, and 50 +6 darts.. 09:53 Meh :( 09:54 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2024 (0:14:58) 10:00 ughno way to skip any of this stuff 10:00 this is a slog 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Odin, on T:2660 (0:22:25) 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed Disruptor's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:2723 (0:23:21) 10:04 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 10:05 Hello all. I was surprised to drop Gollum's ring of invisibility (named The One Ring) in the minetown shop and be offered the last $2,450 the shopkeeper has for it. Are there special properties about it (besides invisibility) that makes it worth so much? 10:06 stealth + searching 10:06 it is an artifact now 10:07 although i think k2 did not intend for him to be an automatic clean-out-the-shop item. k2, will probably have to adjust sell price on the one ring or make shopkeepers afraid to touch it 10:07 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:34681 (1 day, 2:09:14) 10:08 otherwise everyone starts with too much $ 10:09 oh, I see, it really is The One Ring, then? LOL 10:09 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:51119 (8:03:54) 10:10 I wonder if wearing it would slowly wear down your alignment and make you go from Lawful or Neutral to Chaotic, perhaps? Danger Will Robinson! 10:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had an elven helm entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:46082 (1 day, 9:57:48) 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:3337 (0:34:41) 10:23 !lastgame Disruptor 10:23 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Disruptor/evilhack/dumplog/1695520817.evil.html 10:24 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 7800 points, T:3981, killed by Mr. Karangkobar; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 10:24 !lastgame nabru 10:24 nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1683120838.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1695562766.evil.html 10:29 i have an idea about racial shopkeepers/priests and the player wielding a bane weapon vs their race 10:30 current beahvior for those not in the know: say you wield sting/orcrist/glamdring which is a bane weapon vs orcs. and you come across a shop or a temple and the attenting shopkeeper/priest is an orc. instantly hostile, only way to make them peaceful again is via magical taming. unwielding your weapon doesnt make them peaceful again 10:31 i was thinking... 10:31 instead of the priest/shopkeep becoming hostile, they just refuse their services 10:32 shopkeeper will treat you like a convict wearing a striped shirt, wont let you in 10:32 or if you do make it inside, prices are jacked way up 10:32 priests wont sell you divine protection 10:32 or some such 10:33 kicking around ideas 10:38 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:14456 (4:58:48) 10:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had a mithril elven dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:46296 (1 day, 10:26:22) 10:42 Yeah, many deaths due to orc priest and shopkeepers. But nerfing might make things less 'evil'. Your choice :) 10:44 well it could be community choice 10:45 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:14661 (5:05:05) 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Neferet the Green, on T:52742 (8:48:29) 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:15022 (5:28:21) 11:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed squishy the human zombie, and former Fighter, on T:15345 (5:34:37) 11:14 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:16 K2: I think unwielding it and removing it from inventory should be enough. 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:111555 (23:36:42) 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Graz'zt, on T:111612 (23:41:22) 11:30 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 11:30 Oh... man Tiamat and Graz'zt seem to be close buddies. 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed magic marker", on T:53971 (9:25:18) 11:35 Ah yes, Tiamat calls Graz'zt maybe. 11:36 I don't know, maybe Graz'zt can charm me or what? And seems it's much faster than me and wield Dirge. 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:54110 (9:30:58) 11:37 Forget to unlock long sword, otherwise I could use Dirge :( 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:46045 (10:42:29) 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:46047 (10:42:31) 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:54165 (9:33:58) 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:46508 (10:45:09) 11:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:48253 (1 day, 11:29:38) 11:42 What is Hidden Dungeon.. 11:43 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:45 new optional branch in 0.8.3. killing the boss will allow us to genocide beholders. 11:45 Wow I heard of that, I see. 11:47 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:49 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:112320 (1 day, 0:04:25) 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:112324 (1 day, 0:04:30) 11:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed Tal'Gath, on T:48603 (1 day, 11:38:47) 11:52 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:112539 (1 day, 0:09:40) 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the orcish high priestess of Moloch, on T:112818 (1 day, 0:22:50) 12:08 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:112824 (1 day, 0:23:03) 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) genocided giant anacondas, on T:112825 (1 day, 0:24:12) 12:12 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:112951 (1 day, 0:30:30) 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:56646 (10:14:19) 12:22 Thinking about how to spend WoW 0:1 for end game. Want to get vorpal (in case 2 vorpal J spawned next to me). Debating whether to spend 2 wishes for dragonhide helm of speed and dragonhide jumping boots, sadly don't find them in game. Rest (if any) probably goes to markers. 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed marker", on T:113191 (1 day, 0:49:36) 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:113221 (1 day, 0:53:05) 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:113243 (1 day, 0:54:36) 12:41 Well how do you kill Lucifer, he hit me once 100 hp. 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:57653 (10:28:30) 12:41 My boulder fort and zapped about 50 times of wand of cold, insane. 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 31628 points, T:11839, killed by a gnoll cleric, while paralyzed by a monster 12:45 mostly boulder forts and missiles. If you feel lucky, paralysis and beat him to death. 12:46 Spell magic missiles? 12:46 Okay. 12:46 no any ammo, arrow, darts, aklys, or HotG 12:46 Ah okay, but he has so many hp. 12:46 I haven't prepared well. 12:47 You need a lot of ammo, If a +7 dart does avg of say 10 damage, you need 67 darts to hit him at a minimum 12:47 I see, that's so evil :P 12:48 I have some spare wishes, I just write charging to charge my wand of cold... 12:48 I paralyse him a couple of times, and hit him untill he wakes up. Then if it is getting too tough, then boulder fort + missiles. 12:49 SoA seems to work well, expected hits to instantkill = 10? 12:49 I think yes, I'd go SoA next time. 12:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1350 (0:05:58) 12:50 xdminsy: you got -67 AC and his one hit = -100 hp? 12:51 Yes, I think maybe because I don't have half spell damage? 12:51 @e?lucifer 12:51 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 12:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:51 I'm not sure if it's really one hit 100 hp, but just few turns I was only no more than 100 hp. 12:51 xdminsy: you were wielding angelslayer 12:52 withering will do that, if you got hit a couple of times 12:52 Oh angelslayer provide half spell damage. 12:52 I'm not sure, I think it's just so tough :P 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:113609 (1 day, 1:09:12) 12:55 k3ut0i: got any advice for my end game wishing? 12:56 you have jumping and speed? 12:56 yes, but non-dragonhide 12:56 whats your AC 12:56 AC -48, a bit low 12:58 if you have no where to spend wishes, then get dragonhide jumping boots. 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided mind flayers, on T:59012 (10:46:15) 12:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:3287 (0:15:04) 13:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5194 points, T:3792, killed by a hobbit zombie, while fainted from lack of food 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] hasselhoff (Kni Dro Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:16318 (12:47:28) 13:04 k 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:114141 (1 day, 1:20:50) 13:07 xdminsy: your Rodney has MR? 13:08 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Ixoth, on T:36618 (1 day, 5:06:28) 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36619 (1 day, 5:06:34) 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:59635 (10:57:00) 13:16 Yes, and I have no more paralysis.. 13:16 Just kill him if lucky :P 13:17 My angelslayer disappear?? 13:17 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:17 !who 13:17 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] k3ut0i [evil] :: [hdf-us] eggandhull [evil] xdminsy [evil] tinklebear [evil] Splunge [evil] elron [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 13:20 haha yes time for another con dro ascension 13:20 My weapon was gone... 13:21 what were you using 13:21 I was using angelslayer + frostbrand, but I don't know when my angelslayer was gone. 13:21 I'm now +0 frostbrand :P 13:21 ouch 13:22 well you have dirge, that's a very good weapon too 13:22 but it sucks to lose angelslayer because it's so good on astral 13:22 But I forgot to unlock long sword... 13:22 Lol... 13:22 oh... 13:23 then use stormy? 13:23 I'm not sure, I think I need to enchant them. 13:24 Loggers_VIII do you think my wishing plan (0:1) is sound? Vorpal, dragonhide jumping boots, maybe dragonhide helm of speed, markers, in that order 13:24 dragonhide speed helms no longer exist 13:24 egg is on 0.8.2 13:24 ahh 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed marker", on T:114451 (1 day, 1:39:20) 13:25 yesss marker wishes on astral :) 13:25 eggandhull sounds fine 13:25 if you are using speed boots for very fast speed you should wish for a speed helm 13:25 (if you wish for jumping boots) 13:26 eggandhull: do you need markers? sanctum has one 13:26 everyone needs markers 13:26 i don't need markers right now, have 2 left 13:26 you can always postpone that wish till you need it 13:27 yep 13:27 it's weird, this game 170k turns in, many jumping boots or speed helms just none of them are dragonhide 13:27 dragonhide items are very rare 13:28 it is very unlikely. you may never actually get one ever 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:60617 (11:15:40) 13:29 I've found random dragonhide helms of speed, and dragonhide cloaks of magic resistance 13:29 but it's very very rare 13:29 and I can't find dragonhide speed helms anymore anyway 13:29 Wow, thats super lucky 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:114489 (1 day, 1:44:03) 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:42587 (15:29:02) 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:114490 (1 day, 1:44:11) 13:29 wow death drained a lot of HP 13:29 I got dragonhide elven helm, in my current game. 14AC with just one :) 13:30 damn nice 13:31 mammoth gang makes astral ranged fighting hard. In vanilla a dagger storm used to be enough for riders. 13:32 frost brand+stormbringer is also just a really unfortunate matchup against death 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful woolly mammoth, on T:114563 (1 day, 1:47:25) 13:32 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:114564 (1 day, 1:47:28) 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Black Horse, on T:114565 (1 day, 1:47:32) 13:33 the balls to melee famine 13:33 wow, full tour 13:33 man all altars 13:34 luckily pestilence is not an issue for convicts 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) refused to give up The Magic Mirror of Merlin to King Arthur, on T:37108 (1 day, 5:32:24) 13:34 @e?white horse 13:34 White Horse (u) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 24 | Res: cold poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d8 kick physical, 2d8 kick physical, 2d6 bite disenchant | Align: 0 | flies, regen, seeinvis, nopoly, infravis 13:34 Hmm, disenchant 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed King Arthur, on T:37113 (1 day, 5:32:54) 13:34 hah, the celestial dragon's blocking the last door 13:35 teleportation/ needed 13:35 congrats xdminsy! 13:35 \o/ 13:35 yellow dragon lol 13:35 oop yellow dragon crashed the party 13:35 yay xdminsy! 13:36 congrats 13:36 xdminsy: congrats 13:36 Lol you all watching me now, lol thank you all. 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 6608395 points, T:114627, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xdminsy/evilhack/dumplog/1694576802.evil.html 13:37 fourth con dro ascension ever 13:37 I did a lot mistakes, nearly die I think :P 13:38 yeah but you didn't and that's what's important 13:39 what happened to angelslayer, anyway? 13:39 balrog or something?? 13:39 I'm not sure, I need to check ttyrec lol. 13:40 it could've gotten cursed 13:41 hahaha dragonbane in a shop on level 2 13:41 Ah yes I think, maybe I just fight rodney hand to hand and he cursed it. 13:41 Loggers_VIII: Wow, how much does it cost 13:42 640k 13:42 Lol 13:42 I'm not even sure there's that much money in the entire dungeon 13:42 It's super expensive. 13:42 I'll get a pet to steal it 13:42 how come angelslayer getting cursed causes you to lose it? 13:42 but I'll do that later, it's food time 13:42 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:42 I think off hand weapon slips when cursed 13:44 I think it's that wizard of yendor in plane of air. 13:44 A player tourist gave me 40 silver darts of frost :) 13:44 I don't watch message window when messages are a lot :( 13:45 Exactly best darts? 13:45 Lol. 13:46 awesome for demon bosses 13:47 Are these enough to kill Lucifer? 13:48 so as a n00b in evilhack, one piece of feedback is that artifacts being awesome/necessary means altar farming becomes sort of necessary (at least for n00bs). Don't enjoy the farming part that much, never had to do it in vanilla. Any way to mitigate that 13:48 probably 13:49 depends on the role, wizards don't need to farm at all 13:50 I dislike farming too, but I don't know how to kill monsters without those artifacts :( 13:50 lancer knights too 13:52 I think I need to watch some replays of you pro players. 14:01 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Pri Cen Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a sea tortle, on T:10632 (2:13:04) 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Pri Cen Mal Cha) had a blessed wooden flail entrusted to him by Mars, on T:10974 (2:17:20) 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Pri Cen Mal Cha) had a blessed mace entrusted to him by Mars, on T:11016 (2:18:49) 14:13 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Pri Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12435 (2:29:15) 14:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:38 did I miss an ascension? 14:38 I did! 14:38 congrats xdminsy!! 14:38 grats xdminsy 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a shield of mobility entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:3524 (0:17:04) 14:39 cbus, grats on your illiterate ascension 14:39 thanks! 14:40 K2 are saber and scimitar basically the same weapon in evilhack? 14:40 i missed that -- illiterate, wow! that is huge for evilhack 14:40 not evil :) 14:40 3.7 14:40 oh ah -- still cool, grats 14:40 mobileuser yes 14:40 same skill 14:40 different small/large damage 14:40 and same material and damage output 14:41 are they really? 14:41 well that is what I hear in the hackem channel 14:41 double checking... 14:42 cursed potions of gain level not that useful in end game right? thinking about just drinking them to..well, gain levels 14:42 both 1d8/1d8, made of iron 14:42 yeah 1d8 against all krm26 14:42 not orcish scimitars :-) 14:42 lol 14:43 sabers also cost more 14:43 hackem is going to make saber shiny_materials based, which is a clever idea to make them better again than scimitars 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a heavy mace entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:4580 (0:22:18) 14:44 if a floating eye is asleep can it still paralyze you 14:44 i might give sabers a hitbon like katanas 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 5504 points, T:5671, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 14:46 sabers and scimitars, their stats have not changed. all that changed is that wielding one or the other trains up the same skill 14:46 just like long sword/katana 14:46 and barbarians can get skilled in sabers now 14:46 because they could get skilled in scimitars 14:47 same with mace/morning star, or dagger/knife 14:47 (I posted this in #hackem but will repost here) 14:47 75abc65ba - pull request #817 - merge scimitar skill w/ saber (1 year, 2 months ago) 14:47 added it to 3.7 14:47 yeah but the thing is, at the moment they have the same damage output and material 14:47 so? 14:47 their stats werent changed 14:47 so one is redundant 14:48 ok 14:48 -!- bugsniper has joined #evilhack 14:49 same in vanilla 14:49 no 14:49 yup 14:49 in vanilla there is only silver saber 14:49 i'm looking at it 14:49 ^ 14:49 I'm not talking about damage numbers 14:49 so what? you can get silver sabers/scimitars 14:49 well, I kind of am 14:49 you're missing the point 14:49 i dont think so :) 14:50 that being that in vanilla, there's a clear difference between silver sabers and scimitars since you can't have silver scimitars 14:50 you're just confirming that one is redundant :-) 14:50 I'm not saying you have to think it's a problem, but it's clearly different in evil 14:50 in evilhack 14:50 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2643 14:50 unplayable 14:51 burn it down 14:51 all down 14:51 -!- hasselhoff has joined #evilhack 14:51 lol 14:51 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:51 anyway, I like the hackem idea for that 14:51 what is shiny_material 14:51 when druid role comes out i'll make scimitars distinct 14:51 cuz druids like scimitars 14:51 Loggers_VIII https://github.com/elunna/hackem/commit/d6de8c82df6877009721170a81520c726b8a65ec 14:52 please do K2 14:52 I would genuinely like that 14:53 I'm still on-board to make stilettos reward stealth more 14:54 meh i dont like that hackem change. damage stats are still identical 14:54 if you're going to separate them, do it right 14:54 yani give scimitars d20/d20 damage 14:55 done, ship it 14:56 material affects damage 14:57 honestly unrestricted object materials made sabers kind of lame, even before skill merge 14:57 i cant speak for hackem, i've lost track of all its changes. but in evilhack, silver doesnt impart any special damage bonus unless its against a silver hater 14:57 yeah i never see silver or mithril or adamantine sabers 14:57 me neither 14:57 you havent? weird 14:58 sabers are already so rare and when you do find them it's always ironnn 14:58