00:02 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:05 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:31 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 00:36 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Client Quit] 00:46 so i've used the drain life spell to drain myself down to xl 00:47 xl 8. but the failure rate has become 100% 00:47 wondering if i should just start donating or retreat to stash and somehow keep draining down to xl1 00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5819 (0:47:46) 00:56 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law), 3938 points, T:6081, killed by a rope golem, while praying 01:07 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of steel gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:10078 (2:17:24) 01:22 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 01:34 -!- bugsniper has joined #evilhack 01:35 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 01:46 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:47 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:52 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 02:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Dwa Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10253 (6:58:45) 03:07 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:29674 (17:55:44) 04:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:30943 (18:14:15) 04:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30946 (18:14:32) 04:41 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 04:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:31440 (18:20:50) 04:43 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:47 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:21 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:35 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 06:38 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 06:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:31919 (19:01:12) 07:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had a leather cloak entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:32870 (19:27:34) 07:16 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 07:21 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 07:21 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:34344 (20:48:53) 08:52 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 29 points, T:382, poisoned by a little dart 08:59 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 09:05 k2: this ai behavior of @players who use a wand of teleportation to flee, then charge you until they are within "eek flee" distance and zap themselves again...it is just so common and so ridiculous 09:05 you can just sit there while they cycle through all their wand charges 09:06 flee or flee not, there is no try 09:10 I have come to accept that the wand will be 0:0 by the time I kill them 09:10 mobileuser: Message from K2 at 2023-09-22 19:03 EDT: thank you! 09:10 No sir, thank YOU sir :-) 09:11 i dont mind the wand use, i just want them to not charge, run away, charge, run away with zero player interaction 09:11 they should at least stay in "flee" mode until healed or cornered 09:15 well, all monster regain courage after some turns and start to attack again 09:15 it's not specific to player monsters 09:15 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4037 (0:23:09) 09:16 right 09:16 but they dont attack again 09:16 well they do 09:16 they approach until they are in "im gonna tp myself range" 09:17 their attack that they approach for is zapping themselves with the wand of tp 09:17 that is wrong 09:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a stone dagger entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:99181 (1 day, 20:02:47) 09:17 I see what you mean now 09:18 it is a fight/flight problem particular to teleportation 09:19 i think a dirty solution would be to change the "tp escape attempt" threshold each time a tp escape is done, where the threshold gets closer and closer to death 09:19 they constantly give you false hope you may be able to get that wand with charges :-) 09:19 so if they get afraid and blip out at 40% hp, the next threshold would be 20% hp, etc 09:19 again i don't care about the wand (of course everyone wants the wand :-), just the appearance of idiocy in the ai 09:20 i kinda think @players that decide to run away should head for stairs 09:20 oh for me it's definitely the wand teasing 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:4789 (0:28:54) 09:24 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 09:27 Hmm, If I polymorph the Abominable Snowman and the kill him, I dont get the achievement. 09:28 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:35 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:38 k3ut0i that's true for all unique monsters that you polymorph 09:40 hmmm how do i ungelcube if i want to eat some wooden rings... 09:45 Oh, TIL. Most unique monsters have too high MR to polymorph, or occur too early. 09:51 -!- mobileuser42 has joined #evilhack 09:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:56 -!- mobileuser42 is now known as mobileuser 10:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:03 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:03 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:07 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 10:08 Hi, is there an easy way to search past Libera chats? Someone once told me the formula to make a club but I forget what it was and wanted to search through the archives for it. It's not listed in the + in the Goblin King's level. 10:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) had a copper long sword entrusted to him by Odin, on T:50914 (22:49:44) 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to him by Odin, on T:51433 (22:58:06) 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:52378 (23:34:12) 11:15 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:20598 (2:26:36) 11:21 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had a silver shield of mobility entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:22118 (2:30:56) 11:25 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:26 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 11:27 Hmmm, at the Castle a soldier opened the chest and started zapping the / of wishing! That hasn't happened before to me, alas. 11:33 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:18599 (15:12:12) 11:46 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 11:50 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 11:51 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:57 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:00 Oops 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 845022 points, T:52789, crushed to death by a collapsing drawbridge 12:03 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 12:03 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 12:04 doh! sorry dbanethacker, that is rough 12:04 dbanethacker: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Forge_(dungeon_feature) 12:04 always be blowing up drawbridges! 12:04 Yeah - I was 1 spot too close to the Castle and wasn't thinking about the drawbridge when I blasted the boulder in the way. 12:05 ooh, self-blast, double points :-) 12:06 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 12:06 Yep. I thought you could make a club with some materials but even the Forge article doesn't show it. 12:06 dbanethacker: club is 2 arrows, 2 crossbow bolts 12:07 you can pretty much build the world from darts, arrows, and crossbow bolts if you are patient 12:07 Thanks - perhaps https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Forge_(dungeon_feature)#Weapons could be updated with that. 12:07 well the default club is wooden, which you can't make. 12:07 club is in there 12:08 right - I needed to make a metal club so I could combine it accordingly to make a silver aklys for help with Orcus 12:09 yeah, when i want one of those in the early game i just pick up the occasional metal club from ogres to use with the occasional silver flail from gnolls 12:09 also make a few spares if you can 12:09 but for 14 arrows, 6 crossbow bolts, and 4 darts you can make an aklys from scratch 12:09 Oh, I see it in there now. Thanks! 12:09 lance is 16 arrows, 4 crossbow bolts, 6 darts 12:10 hey guys. so i've used the drain life spell to drain myself down to xl 8. but the failure rate has become 100%. wondering if i should just start donating or retreat to stash and somehow keep draining down to xl1. 12:10 why would you need to be below 8? looking to reroll hits with 25 con? 12:10 protection? 12:10 want to get 20 protection 12:11 or as close as possible lol just for fun 12:11 i mean, there is plenty of money in the game to do that at level 8 12:11 although i am too lazy to bother past 9 or 10 points 12:11 got 55k gold. i guess the other way is to revgeno wraiths and have them drain me 12:12 you dont have a staff of war to help your draining? 12:12 they dont have much use but that would be one 12:13 no, never heard of staff of war 12:13 there are staffs for each spell school that make it easier to cast that school of spells 12:13 ironshod staff i think is war 12:13 i'm sure you have seen one or two funky staffs by now -- wormwood, bone-carved, etc -- those are the staffs 12:13 don't have any helm of brilliance? that might help a giant 12:14 i can retreat back to soko at 79hp to look for both items 12:16 you can download your tty and grep for ironshod to see if you left a staff of war lying around someplace 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 544 points, T:1205, killed by Gollum 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of cloth water walking boots entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:101479 (1 day, 20:39:40) 12:17 krm26: that's another TIL! 12:18 i've had to do that before because i didn't notice that i lost my *primary weapon* and was beating things to death with my fists :-) 12:18 because i am what they call a "super genius" 12:19 Haha, In a IRL fight scene that would be hilarious 12:23 many a decent evilhack player has wet themselves laughing while watching me inattentively fumble an ascension 12:23 :) 12:26 What's up with boojum's invisibility attack? 12:26 so k2, after extensively playing with dichotomy i gotta say, f the soa, it is always going to make armor now 12:26 hah nice 12:26 the periodic explosions are just so satisfying 12:27 and the inventory immunity to fire and cold is amazing 12:27 i love it that the SoA is no longer a must have 12:27 its still up there 12:27 honestly the inventory immunity is HUGE 12:27 k3ut0i what do you me 'what's up with boojum invis attack' ? 12:27 *mean 12:28 krm26 some players will still gravitate to the SoA depending on play style and role/build 12:28 does it harm the player in some way... i just don't understand why it does it. 12:28 but yeah it's neat to see dichotomy change things up 12:29 you mean the boojum tp attack k3ut0i? 12:29 k3ut0i the boojum comes from sporkhack. that's what it did in that game too 12:29 the premise being not every player wants to be invisible i think 12:29 krm26: boojum attacks make you invisible for a time 12:29 ? i have NEVER noticed that 12:29 it isn't in the lookup 12:30 yeah, no other monster has it 12:30 not in the lookup because becoming invis isnt an attack type 12:30 boojum in evilhack comes too late game for it to matter, having a few hundred turns of invisibility can sometimes be frustrating in the early game 12:30 attack/damage type rather 12:31 It can make pets invisible too, that can become a problem 12:31 In my last game, it made my dragon ride invisible 12:31 zap a cursed wand of invis at your invix pet 12:31 *invis 12:31 that will make them visible again 12:32 in that instance it was telepathic, so didn't become much of a problem 12:33 I think boojum would make a good pet, even a good ride. None of other teleport attackers are sturdy enough. 12:34 boojum's hit hard 12:34 can't get it easily though 12:34 yeah they are very rare 12:35 alright i gotta get back to what i was doing, wife is making me adult today *sigh* 12:35 high MR, and ungenocidable... only possible with figurine 12:35 back later 12:35 hmm https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eggandhull/evilhack/ttyrec/ no older ttyrecs? 12:36 @e? boojum 12:36 boojum (J) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire disintegrate shock | Confer: fire disintegrate shock | MR: 90 | Gen: special | AC: 0 | Atk: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw physical, 3d10 claw physical, 0d0 claw teleport | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, seeinvis, nopoly, infravis 12:37 orc captain just walked up and smacked me with demonbane 12:37 eggandhull: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/ttyrecs/evilhack-us/ 12:37 that might only have the current one 12:39 Oh, boojum's can't be saddled... I thought all J monsters could be :( 12:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:102944 (1 day, 21:06:06) 12:50 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:35634 (23:01:50) 12:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1448 (0:37:18) 12:58 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:22984 (2:33:25) 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2875 points, T:2393, killed by a hill orc 13:03 What's up with soldiers taking the wand of wishing..., mine just took it and started wishing 13:03 A Xorn just ate one.... 13:03 A wand of wishing 13:04 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 13:05 not any soldier 13:05 captains will spawn with keys 13:05 and if they are elven or human, they arent affected by the scroll of scare monster/elbereth on the spot where the chests are 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:38308 (13:24:10) 13:06 but those cells don't have any captains, only sergents and lieutanants 13:06 but yeah that's some salt on the wound there, xorn eats the wand 13:06 havent seen that before 13:07 I stopped him after one wish, with sleep and killed him, only to have 2 Xorns go after it :( shit luck 13:08 key must have been a random spawn then, solderi types dont purposely spawn with keys unless they are a captain/watch captain/prison guard 13:08 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 13:12 ah 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 537 points, T:1011, killed by a gnome lord 13:12 ok so i grepped for 'ironshod' and found the mention in the binary file. looking at context, dlvl 8 is mentioned near the occurrence of the word. but when i checked dlvl 7-9 there's no ironshod staff to be found..? 13:12 the chests arent always locked. a lot of times they do spawn locked but not always 13:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3579 (0:52:39) 13:12 and sometimes they spawn as a crystal chest 13:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5995 points, T:3623, killed by a rothe, while sleeping 13:13 perhaps those chests should always be locked. they are in vanilla 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:23908 (2:48:07) 13:14 eggandhull you best course of action imo is to watch the ttyrec and see what happened to it 13:14 yeah, dbanethacker also had a soldier zaping the wand of wishing 13:14 you have the right ttyrec it sounds like 13:15 k3ut0i yeah i'll tweak that 13:15 today 13:16 Yeah he wished away the initial wishes on the wand. There were iron bars so I zapped him dead but more soldiers kept coming. 13:18 found it, in quest 13:20 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:26 self drain is scary, hp keeps going down 13:30 atleast he wished for frost brand, small wins :| 13:31 K2: yeah, there are no keys here, the chest must have been open 13:32 down to xl 2, power 8, no longer sufficient to cast drain lift 13:32 i guess that's it 13:33 you could still quaff a gain energy and do it, full healing too if your hp is precariously low 13:33 if your realllly want too :) 13:33 imma just send it, have 59624 gold 13:33 k3ut0i boojums try to make you disappear by teleporting you. but if they can't teleport you, they make you invisible 13:34 which is another kind of disappearing 13:35 Haa, to avoid public embarrasment. boojum: I swear I really teleported him :) 13:35 That's pretty solid logic 13:36 lol 13:53 i should've gone to xl 1 13:54 burned 59k gold, spent 70% of it at xl 2, then drained to 1 and burned the rest, got 15 points of protection total 13:55 if you are still unsatisfied you can get a pet to kill him, and try with another priest. 13:56 yeah don't think 5 ac will make or break 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:27852 (3:30:42) 13:57 Yeah not much use after a point unless you are going nudist. 13:58 so i want to forge some silver shurikens, but only got 1 silver dagger lol 14:00 get a lot of regular ones, unless you luck upon a trap of silver darts or arrows it will be hard to get them. mithril ones do extra 2 damage if you find a stash of them. 14:01 With no wishes, I'll be squating on an altar for the forseable future... here goes 50k turns 14:04 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading The Blacksmith's Cookbook, on T:3104 (0:47:19) 14:06 yea 14:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:37378 (1 day, 0:13:25) 14:07 Wow, luck really turned 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a silver tsurugi bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:170280 (2 days, 2:10:36) 14:12 nice 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law), 1960 points, T:3314, killed by the Goblin King 14:19 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 948 points, T:1511, killed by a mountain dwarf 14:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:38 k2, does a monster wishing for an artifact count against your artifact wish count? 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:12100 (2:45:47) 14:44 are pearl rings considered bone, or mineral, or gemstone? anyone know? 14:45 bone 14:45 can anything eat bone? 14:47 i...don't think so? 14:47 gelatinous cubes can't 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:13166 (2:54:09) 14:54 Normal gelcubes can't - you might be able to while poly'd into one 14:54 No clue for sure 14:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a wooden two-handed sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:13717 (2:59:32) 14:54 In any case, give me a second 14:54 yeah, i wiztested---doesn't work :( 14:55 pearl is edible for metallivores 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:104559 (1 day, 21:38:29) 14:56 not in evilhack 14:56 Hm 14:56 Give me a moment 14:57 that would be really weird if true 14:58 it should really be treated as mineral, since it is just a high pressure form of calcium carbonate 14:59 it has always seemed weird to me that xorn can eat metal but not mineral 14:59 i think dragons should be able to eat gemstone 14:59 lithivorous behavior isn't implemented in vanilla or most variants outside of THEM 15:01 yep, inedible 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven long sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:14866 (3:14:36) 15:10 i keep sacrificing ogres but the lady won't take the hint and give me ogresmasher 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4720 (0:42:12) 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:4737 (0:42:26) 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:4743 (0:42:32) 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has removed her long sword from existence, on T:4749 (0:42:36) 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a bone two-handed sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:15002 (3:17:05) 15:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:105206 (1 day, 21:59:10) 15:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:17 !who 15:17 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] bouquet [evil] krm26 [evil] squishy [evil] elron [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 15:22 oooh sunsword random drop to go with demonbane random drop hoorah 15:25 I just found grayswandir in a shop. Been a loooooong time since that's happened. 15:25 go go gadget pet! 15:26 i like to sell it back once to clean out the shopkeeper 15:26 I might keep it for a bit. Not sure on strategy atm. 15:27 monsters wishing for an artifact doesnt count against how many you've wished for 15:28 the game tracks how many times you've wished for an artifact; monster wishing doesnt increment the counter for that tracker 15:32 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:32 sweet! now let me give my pet humanoid a wand of wishing and have them wish up good stuff for me 15:33 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/07ff800007c6...fc94aa5e716a 15:33 [EvilHack] k21971 fc94aa5 - Castle chest with wand of wishing is always locked. 15:33 aww, so many disappointed guard captains 15:33 wow, wish I was a monk. Just found silver GoP! 15:34 they will offset your silver grayswandir nicely 15:34 if a human or elven captain makes it into the room with the wand of wishing chest, they could still get inside of it (if it's not crystal chest) 15:34 but, i dont think that happens very often 15:35 omigod in the time i've been trying to get ogresmasher i've gotten two random artifact drops 15:37 only once did I get to the chest and it was empty. Never found the /oWishing that game 15:37 !whereis krm26 15:37 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Tou Hum Fem Neu) T:105573 The Dungeons of Doom level: 27 15:37 krm26 do you already have the castle wow? 15:38 yes sir 15:38 ok good 15:39 sadly it was a 0:1 but you can't have everything 15:39 just that commit just went live and i was thinking 'no one will have loaded the castle level yet' and here you are 15:39 heh 15:39 this game is gonna take forever because i am a tourist with edible accuracy and damage rings and i am going to break the game 15:40 i wonder what happens if you save and reload 15:40 hmmm just went down from dlvl10 to dlvl 11 and got the following messages 15:40 You descend the stairs. 15:40 Version mismatch for file "vlt-0002.lev". 15:40 Version mismatch for file "vlt-0010.lev". 15:40 Version mismatch for file "vlt-0010.lev". 15:40 Version mismatch for file "vlt-0022.lev". 15:40 castle turns into a maze 15:40 uh oh 15:40 wtf those werent even touched 15:40 i'm not leaving this level until further notice :-) 15:41 elron just save/reload 15:42 done -- fingers crossed 15:42 you should be fine 15:42 all i updated was the castle level 15:42 vlt-00* levels arent really levels, they are themed rooms that can load in the regular dungeon 15:45 i'm watching your game elron, making sure going downstairs again is ok 15:45 K2: I just went downstairs and got "Version mismatch for file "oracle-3.lev"." 15:46 and "program in disorder" 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:105879 (1 day, 22:28:27) 15:46 bouquet save/reload 15:46 worked like a charm 15:46 yay 15:46 doesn't appear to be an oracle level 15:47 yeah it made a maze ugh 15:47 wild, appears to be a maze level... is that intended? 15:47 its what the game does if there's a level mismatch 15:47 ^ 15:47 it's kind of fun 15:47 i shouldnt have applied that update with live games ongoing 15:47 my bad 15:47 ugh, except there's no oracle and 2 minotaurs :( 15:47 alright, farewell dichotomy/dirge, hello hotg/dichotomy 15:48 aw, does this mean that bouquet can't get the magic 8 ball? :( 15:48 krm26 if you're off of the castle level, save/reload 15:48 done 15:49 eggandhull is fine, he's on 0.8.2 15:49 at this rate some random goblin is gonna come up and give me grayswandir while i'm still sacrificing for ogresmasher 15:50 wish for ogresmasher with that magic lamp I know you hav 15:50 *have 15:50 it is my only magic lamp! 15:50 sent a msg to tinklebear 15:50 you have hotg do you not 15:50 besides i already used a wish for gjallar, i have no more artifact wishes 15:50 ah 15:50 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 15:50 bouquet sorry :/ 15:51 i suspect that i will go back to dirge instead of hammer until lucifer, lemme see what the damage is like 15:51 my first local hackem game had sokoban fail to load and get replaced with a maze with a minotaur that killed me instead 15:51 Noisytoot that would be a different issue. i wonder if there's a way to have the game load the map regardless instead of making a maze 15:52 depending on where that happens, could make the game unwinnable 15:52 Noisytoot: Was that recently or a while ago? 15:52 hackemslashem: a while ago 15:52 Ok phew :) 15:52 pre-1.0.0 15:55 will this happen again? 15:55 on other special levels? 15:56 not if you save/reload 15:56 it shouldn't, just did because you weren't saved when k2 made the change 15:56 my fault for making a change to .des file and updating the game while ppl were playing 15:56 i generally know better 15:58 :/ 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:106352 (1 day, 22:41:32) 16:01 heh hackemslashem in my first Jedi game the quest was replaced by a maze, remember? 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:106539 (1 day, 22:45:53) 16:04 Ah the good ol days 16:06 krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) put Cleaver in the trash can on T:106540 16:06 I thought that was a real message for a second and it threw me for a loop 16:06 lol 16:07 right, dishes... :-) 16:10 hey guys. so i'm forging shurikens = 2 darts + 1 dagger. Can I #forge and put stacks of say 10 darts and 4 daggers in? Is the game smart enough to apply the recipes 4 times? 16:10 i'm gonna forge tempest just because i never have 16:11 one forge at a time eggandhull 16:11 it'll pull from a stack 16:11 ic 16:11 no harm to put stacks in? 16:11 no harm at all 16:11 will just take the right number each time for one recipe 16:11 cool coo 16:11 and you get more than one shuriken out, too 16:11 very efficient 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:106795 (1 day, 22:55:17) 16:13 \o/ 16:13 unfortunately i got many different stacks of shuriken now (enchantment / materials etc different). not very efficient for enchant weapons.. 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a spear entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:106876 (1 day, 22:57:32) 16:15 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:16 'lo! 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:106912 (1 day, 22:59:26) 16:17 and DONE 16:17 time to melt 4 forges 16:18 nice 16:22 heh 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2231 (0:21:54) 16:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a mace entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:32184 (4:28:39) 16:29 can pets ride other pets 16:29 no 16:29 lame 16:31 it's a wonder monster steed code is functional as is 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:33383 (4:34:09) 16:32 fair enough 16:34 pets should be able to ride other pets that should be able to ride other pets and so on 16:34 an ant riding a jackal riding a horse riding a wumpus 16:34 yes, yes. bugs be damned 16:34 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 16:34 its like a turducken 16:35 Hi all - I was thinking more about how I died in the last game and wonder if it ended as intended. 16:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:35 did you intend to die? 16:35 I was on the Castle level and was standing on the portcullis and there was a boulder blocking the entrance to the castle's first room itself. 16:36 I used a wand of striking to break apart the boulder. I was surprised that the portcullis crashed on me and crushed me. Instadeath. 16:36 nothing good can follow from "so i was standing on the portcullis"... 16:36 Agreed 16:36 were you on the square over water? 16:37 yeah rule of thumb, dont be anywhere near a drawbridge and use a wand of striking/force bolt spell 16:37 this is vanilla nethack behavior 16:37 better rule of thumb, see a drawbridge and shoot it from orbit before you approach 16:37 Yes. if I'm next to the portcullis instead of on it, and I use the / of striking, when the boulder is broken, why does it not take down the portcullis? 16:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a helm of speed entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:34458 (4:40:04) 16:37 Sure, don't be dumb. Got it. 16:37 does it not? 16:38 I don't think so but haven't had a boulder blocking the way before so I can't say for 100% certainty 16:38 so k2, i think that @player thieving of the bell of opening definitely doesnt give a crap about grease. intentional? (seen 5 instant thefts this game without grease wearing off) 16:38 yes 16:39 if I'm on the square over the water, I get it - all bets are off. But if I'm on the square next to the water and do the same action, shouldn't it just break apart the boulder and not blow apart the portcullis? 16:39 invocation items are not protected 16:39 ok, missed that wrinkle 16:40 but you cant stop me from greasing them anyway 16:41 fascinating---zapping striking at a boulder on a drawbridge will destroy the drawbridge but not the boulder 16:41 anyone know a clever way to rapidly ungelcube after polying to eat? 16:41 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:41 standard throwing your weapon up in the air not so effective without arms 16:41 overtax yourself and move around, maybe? 16:42 wow, I'm actually faced with a dilema for sokoban. 16:43 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:44 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a steel helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:35867 (4:46:58) 16:45 hermes you have no idea how much I want to wear this +5 steel helm of brilliance but sadly I am a tortle 16:45 at least you tried, though 16:45 bouquet what's the dilema? 16:45 Loggers, you can! 16:46 it's a whole new world for tortles 16:46 I mean my head slot has to be filled by a helm of speed 16:46