00:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3293 (0:35:28)
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00:25 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin opened pull request #151: Miscellaneous. . .improvements? - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/151
00:26 <terrapin> wild, botifico was faster than my browser
00:28 <k3ut0i> I thought it was an hour late one time :)
00:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una), 14850 points, T:6270, killed by a bolt of cold
00:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:9260 (5:38:00)
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02:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:12763 (7:57:20)
03:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:13405 (8:14:34)
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03:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:13551 (8:22:04)
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03:21 <cbus> k3ut0i, congrats on your superior elven dagger that you will obviously use instead of magicbane :P
03:23 <k3ut0i> cbus Thank you, all thanks to the divine wisdom of Thoth :)
03:23 <cbus> almost as funny as in vanilla when you get blank spellbooks :D
03:24 <cbus> (not sure if thats a thing in evil but I still chuckle when that happens)RR
03:25 <k3ut0i> gift blank spellbooks happened, but I think it was fixed recently
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03:30 <mobileuser> "The lava cools and solidifies." dichotomy bug was fixed \o/
03:33 <mobileuser> oh my, that new wizard level...
03:34 <mobileuser> and I can't levelport as infidel
03:37 <mobileuser> aaand magic mapping doesn't work of course
03:38 <mobileuser> first impression: I like the idea of making the dungeon shorter, but not at the expense of needing to kill a zillion extra monsters...
03:39 <k3ut0i> The bottom most layer is a slog. Even more than vecna, or ludios
03:39 <mobileuser> yeah...
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04:18 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:15648 (9:20:46)
04:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:15693 (9:22:52)
04:29 <mobileuser> how are you supposed to enter the building...
04:33 <mobileuser> oh, drawbridge
04:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16604 (9:36:46)
04:35 <k3ut0i> more indestructable drawbridges
05:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had a spellbook of confuse monster given to her by Thoth, on T:20608 (10:11:06)
05:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:8827 (1:12:03)
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06:38 <mobileuser> "The drow cleric's pair of etched bracers crumbles into fragments!"
06:38 <mobileuser> oddly satisfying
06:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3015 (1:00:27)
07:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 7020 points, T:4936, withered away
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07:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:59259 (1 day, 16:57:05)
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08:15 <K2> oooh
08:15 <K2> mobileuser has entered rodney's lair!
08:15 <K2> :P
08:15 <mobileuser> and ran away again ;-)
08:15 <K2> brave brave sir robin
08:15 <mobileuser> glad you added that commit about the wizard not waking up
08:16 <K2> yay
08:18 <K2> rodney's bottom level doesnt have to be a slog. there's a way around a lot of it
08:19 <K2> potentially
08:19 <krm26> man i'm gonna miss gjallar cheesing the wizard's tower
08:20 <K2> !who
08:20 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players
08:20 <K2> ah mobileuser took a break
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08:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2857 (0:12:07)
08:23 <krm26> you scared him off with your massive tower
08:23 <krm26> sweet, angelslayer!
08:27 <K2> the livelog 'entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair' is when you set foot on the top level where rodney actually resides
08:27 <K2> so he's already cleared the first 2 levels :P
08:32 <K2> i may lessen the amount of monsters in the zoo on the bottom level. may have been a bit overzealous there
08:32 <mobileuser> I'm walking back to stash, time for asc preps
08:32 <Loggers_VIII> he's the Wizard the Big Bad he needs a big zoo
08:33 <K2> mobileuser there's a magic chest right next to rodney
08:33 <K2> if you defeat him you dont have to walk back :P
08:33 <mobileuser> hmmm
08:33 <K2> see what i did there
08:34 <mobileuser> oh, a magic chest at Vlad would be nice. that's not gehennom.
08:34 <K2> vlad didnt want it installed
08:34 <K2> filed a complaint
08:35 <mobileuser> I'm surprised the wizard was ok with it!
08:35 <K2> rodney saw it as a lure
08:35 <K2> plus he wants to try and break into it
08:35 <K2> (he cant dont worry hah)
08:35 <mobileuser> he should talk to vlad then
08:36 <K2> they have a dispute through the yendor HoA
08:36 <mobileuser> helmet of annihilation?
08:36 <Loggers_VIII> evil idea: if you take longer than 40k turns to get to rodney, he's figured out how to open the magic chest and can steal your stuff from it
08:36 <K2> home owners association
08:37 <mobileuser> :-)
08:37 <K2> heh
08:37 <K2> Loggers_VIII omg noooo lol
08:37 <mobileuser> with object det I saw he has a MR amulet, does he now always start with one?
08:38 <K2> no
08:38 <mobileuser> yani
08:38 <mobileuser> :-P
08:38 <Loggers_VIII> yabi
08:39 <K2> mobileuser its a 50% chance rodney spawns with MR
08:39 <K2> the amulet is either MR or guarding
08:39 <mobileuser> yeah
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08:50 <K2> i think loggers is right, big bad wizard demands big zoo
08:50 <K2> however, comma
08:51 <K2> i have an idea for a change i think you all will appreciate
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08:55 <mobileuser> These questions — and many others — will be answered in the next episode of Soap.
08:57 <K2> hah
08:57 <mobileuser> the youngsters won't have a clue what that means ;-)
08:58 <k3ut0i> You could give a choice, lots of loot if you clear the zoo, or fight a couple of neothelids if you want a short cut.
08:58 <K2> there IS a shortcut
08:58 <K2> its already there potentially
08:59 <mobileuser> yeah what's the shortcut
08:59 <k3ut0i> Does it involve cutting some trees?
08:59 <K2> chance for a secret backdoor to spawn
08:59 <K2> k3ut0i perhaps :P
08:59 <K2> i have said too much
08:59 <k3ut0i> I suspected something when there were trees blocking going around
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09:00 <K2> chop or swim
09:01 <Loggers_VIII> I like swimming
09:02 <K2> :P
09:02 <K2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm0th4zgubw
09:02 <Loggers_VIII> there's no dangerous aquatic monsters by that point though which is laaame
09:02 <Loggers_VIII> buff krakens already
09:03 <Loggers_VIII> lol k2
09:03 <K2> :)
09:04 <Loggers_VIII> @e?kraken
09:04 <Hecubus> kraken (;) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 3 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: special | AC: 6 | Atk: 2d4 claw physical, 2d4 claw physical, 2d6 hug wrap, 5d4 bite physical | Align: -3 | genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious, nopoly, infravis
09:04 <Loggers_VIII> seriously these guys are just slow damage sponges by the time you see them with any sort of regularity
09:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +0 mithril runed dagger named Sting on an altar, on T:5427 (0:35:47)
09:06 <mobileuser> add mermaids!
09:06 <Loggers_VIII> don't do that
09:07 <cbus> do it!
09:07 <cbus> thats 2 votes for 1 against
09:07 <mobileuser> "there's no dangerous aquatic monsters by that point though which is laaame"
09:07 <Loggers_VIII> this isn't a democracy you mutineers
09:07 <mobileuser> your own words
09:07 <Loggers_VIII> I mean dangerous like kick your teeth in not steal your stuff
09:07 <K2> noooo mermaids
09:07 <cbus> mermans?
09:07 <K2> not yet
09:07 <cbus> merchefs?
09:07 <K2> i'm ready to see ariel die repeatedly
09:08 <K2> *not ready
09:08 <K2> NOT
09:08 <cbus> add the witch!
09:08 <cbus> forgot her name
09:08 <K2> ursula
09:08 <cbus> yeah her!
09:08 <Loggers_VIII> just add an octopus that steals your stuff
09:08 <K2> ...
09:08 <Loggers_VIII> that's funnier
09:08 <K2> \o/
09:09 <K2> we just watched the little mermaid remake
09:09 <K2> i like the original better
09:09 <K2> but new one wasnt bad
09:09 <K2> my kid thinks ariel in the new movie is very pretty
09:10 <Loggers_VIII> I didn't know they were making a new little mermaid
09:10 <cbus> it is already out
09:10 <K2> i found it funny/distressing that some people lost their shit over ariel in the remake being black. 
09:10 <cbus> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5971474/
09:10 <K2> get over it people
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09:10 <Loggers_VIII> there will always be someone
09:11 <cbus> her name is hilariously close to Halle Berry
09:11 <cbus> dont get why ppl get upset over that thing
09:11 <K2> because some people suck
09:12 <K2> s/some/most
09:13 <cbus> true
09:14 <Loggers_VIII> hey!
09:14 <Hecubus> Hello Loggers_VIII, Welcome to #evilhack
09:14 <Loggers_VIII> I am most people :p
09:14 <K2> hay
09:14 <K2> lol
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09:22 <Loggers_VIII> !who
09:22 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] k3ut0i [evil] :: [hdf-us] Loggers [evil] tinklebear [evil] Disruptor [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players
09:24 <krm26> time for a live action remake of ADVENTURE TIME!
09:25 <nabru> live-action nethack when?
09:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a copper aklys entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:6307 (0:45:20)
09:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a helm of speed entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:6521 (0:46:24)
09:26 <Loggers_VIII> haha yes
09:27 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 6 commits to master [+0/-0/±8] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0499260b6a3f...06232f658414
09:27 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin a60257b - Don't allow players to name objects they don't know the appearance of
09:27 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 85cdb29 - Fix: Undead don't grudge each other
09:28 <botifico> [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 4dde18c - Fix: Monsters will pick up partial stacks
09:28 <botifico> [EvilHack] ... and 3 more commits.
09:28 <Loggers_VIII> aw undead grudging each other was kinda cool
09:28 <K2> that fix needed to happen tho
09:29 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
09:29 <K2> the coolest is when you encounter a group of elves, orcs and zombies at the same time in the mines
09:29 <K2> grab some popcorn and watch
09:30 <Loggers_VIII> yeah I love grudges
09:31 <Loggers_VIII> vanilla's starting to incorporate them too
09:31 <Loggers_VIII> I like the one where liches kill monsters that can be made into zombies
09:31 <Loggers_VIII> and raise them from the dead
09:32 <krm26> oh slap this is the castle dungeon
09:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:79320 (1 day, 10:28:09)
09:33 <NetSysFire> ...the hidden dungeon?
09:33 <K2> !whereis krm26
09:33 <krm26> oh this does not look good oh no sir
09:33 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Tou Hum Fem Neu) T:79320 The Hidden Dungeon level: 28
09:33 <Loggers_VIII> yay hidden dungeon
09:33 <Loggers_VIII> love that place
09:33 <krm26> i feel like noping out
09:34 <krm26> basilisks, beholders, and shambling horrors oh my
09:34 <krm26> and of course a nest of mind flayer larvae
09:34 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
09:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:11791 (1:56:13)
09:34 <krm26> and my with no substantive ranged combat
09:34 <Loggers_VIII> lots of mind flayer larvae in this update
09:34 <Loggers_VIII> you can ignore the mind flayers
09:34 <Loggers_VIII> they're in a locked room
09:35 <krm26> i'm feeling like i need to be permanently blind on this level
09:35 <Loggers_VIII> basically yeah
09:35 <krm26> bye level!
09:35 <Loggers_VIII> but it's magic mappable which is nice
09:35 <Loggers_VIII> boooooooo
09:36 <K2> boo?
09:36 <K2> oh krm26 leaving
09:36 <K2> krm26 dont you want to genocide beholders?
09:36 <krm26> wut? srsly?
09:37 <K2> oh my
09:37 <Loggers_VIII> kill the big beholder you get to genocide them
09:37 <krm26> oh goddamit k2 you bastard
09:37 <K2> \o/
09:37 <K2> on stick, carrot (1EA)
09:37 <krm26> i'm gonna need more lizards
09:38 <Loggers_VIII> what's your horror
09:38 <K2> my intent for the hidden dungeon was not to be mappable
09:38 <K2> supposed to explore it
09:38 <krm26> ok, i wont use mapping on it
09:38 <Loggers_VIII> mappable is more fun I don't like stumbling around in the dark
09:38 <K2> get a lamp
09:39 <Loggers_VIII> I'm more of a plan-->execution sorta guy
09:39 <Loggers_VIII> some would say I ignore the first part sometimes
09:39 <Loggers_VIII> they can hush
09:39 <krm26> lamps dont help when you are blindfolded
09:39 <terrapin> you go from plan to execution so fast most people don't notice the planning phase
09:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:9491 (0:58:32)
09:40 <Loggers_VIII> lol terrapin
09:40 <Loggers_VIII> damn you hermes I just want luck
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09:43 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/06232f658414...03fb1890b38b
09:43 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 2794c5f - Fix: the Hidden Dungeon and magic mapping.
09:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:9913 (1:02:08)
09:43 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 03fb189 - Adjust odds of the Wizard of Yendor spawning with magic resistance.
09:44 <K2> i have sting and orcrist in my current game, but no hammer
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09:44 <Loggers_VIII> "the wood nymph stole an uncursed bag called holding containing 32 items" woops
09:45 <krm26> if you had a hammer, would you hammer in the morning?
09:45 <K2> omg krm26
09:45 <K2> lol
09:45 <cbus> loggers_viii, :%s/wood nymph/mermaid/ and you have a party
09:45 <krm26> if there is some lava interspersed with the sewage here i'm definitely gonna burn myself up
09:45 <K2> how do I interpret that
09:45 <K2> krm26 no lava
09:46 <Loggers_VIII> cbus I will never even allow myself to SEE one of your damn sea wenches
09:46 <Loggers_VIII> genocide them right away
09:46 <cbus> see wenches hahah
09:46 <krm26> dichotomy is blasting away a lot of this sewage which is sweet
09:46 <cbus> "The little sea wench"
09:47 <Loggers_VIII> hahaha
09:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Mal Cha), 92 points, T:553, killed by a fox
09:47 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law), 35226 points, T:13119, burned by molten lava
09:47 <Loggers_VIII> ouch
09:47 <Loggers_VIII> one bet for a slashem soko level
09:47 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame
09:47 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1695322437.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Disruptor/evilhack/dumplog/1695348261.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1694601472.evil.html
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09:48 <Loggers_VIII> damn! swing and a miss
09:48 <Loggers_VIII> pay out the orc priests
09:49 <Loggers_VIII> hey hey hey, did everyone just collectively ignore that k2 made the chance of wizard spawning with magic res 25%??
09:50 <K2> someone noticed
09:50 <K2> finally
09:50 <K2> was beginning to wonder
09:50 <qt> what was it before?
09:50 <K2> 50
09:50 <qt> wow
09:50 <Loggers_VIII> just checked logs
09:50 <qt> you may as well include a free teething ring with purchase
09:51 <cbus> k2, easyhack
09:51 <Loggers_VIII> 6 minutes ago. never thought I'd see the day
09:51 <K2> yeah its significant change. i think this makes things a bit more balanced
09:51 <Loggers_VIII> well not six minutes ago now. six minutes ago when I looked at it
09:51 <K2> 50% may have been a bit too much
09:51 <Loggers_VIII> time is an illusion whatever grumble grumble
09:52 <krm26> my rng renders 50% ad 98%, wonder what 25% will end up at
09:52 <K2> time is relative
09:52 <K2> krm26 for you prob 110%
09:52 <Loggers_VIII> prove it
09:52 <krm26> uh oh, tal'gath is on the move
09:52 <K2> photon says 'time? what's that?'
09:52 <terrapin> when i did that PR yesterday, i swear botifico dinged before i finished clicking
09:52 <krm26> OMIGOD I CAN EAT HIM
09:52 <Loggers_VIII> yeah for disint res
09:53 <K2> lol
09:53 <Loggers_VIII> 50% I think?
09:53 <K2> yeah its a big boy
09:53 <krm26> actually he does not look bad blind, i thought he would have some nasty passives
09:53 <K2> beholders are genderless
09:53 <Loggers_VIII> no it's just got an annoying magic missile attack
09:53 <krm26> only 16 missiles :-)
09:54 <Loggers_VIII> technically speaking it also has a 10d10 bite but you'd have to be trying to get it to do it
09:54 <krm26> i thought he might have the antimagic cone, where none of your items worked when standing in front of him
09:54 <Loggers_VIII> smop
09:55 <K2> tal'gath having some passives would be neat
09:55 <K2> but, all 6 attack slots are filled
09:55 <krm26> bump it up!
09:55 <K2> save breaking
09:56 <Loggers_VIII> give it a disorienting beam like shimmering dragons have
09:56 <krm26> that reminds me i should really take a break some time and write the bones converter
09:56 <K2> what would be better I think - make some of his gaze attacks work in diminished form if you blind yourself
09:56 <Loggers_VIII> I was worried you would say that
09:57 <K2> only big boy, not all beholders
09:57 <K2> we're gonna let that idea simmer for a bit
09:57 <K2> no rash decisions
09:58 <K2> from here on out, Tal'Gath will also be known as Big Boy™
09:58 <Loggers_VIII> tall gath
09:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Tal'Gath, on T:79906 (1 day, 10:54:14)
09:59 <K2> tal'gath brooks
09:59 <K2> krm26 \o/
10:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 10402 points, T:8426, killed by a gargantuan spider called Hugs
10:00 <krm26> my suggestions: new kind of lurker above in tal'gath level that uses its pseudopods to steal items, mostly from the head region. hats...BLINDFOLDS...
10:00 <bouquet> HUGS!?
10:00 <K2> hugs lol
10:00 <bouquet> rude
10:00 <K2> krm26 that sounds appropriately evil
10:00 <krm26> ALSO, when tal'gath is alive he should suppress telepathy on his level. OR, the super mind flayer dude could supress it, so you could take him out
10:01 <qt> oh I like that idea
10:01 <krm26> now THAT makes the dungeon a place you would sweat bullets
10:01 <qt> that's really good
10:01 <Loggers_VIII> there's just a normal mind flayer isn't there
10:01 <K2> sometimes
10:01 <krm26> in fact, in general, telepathy is so great that having a step beyond master mind flayer that supressed telepathy on the level might be generally good. something you would only see during ascensions and at tal'goth
10:01 <qt> well he'd be a super mind flayer dude if he could suppress all telepathy, QED
10:01 <terrapin> suppress warning too to be really evil?
10:01 <K2> just like any other mind flayer nursery, there's a chance for a neothelid
10:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Fem Cha), 502 points, T:1816, killed by the Goblin King
10:02 <qt> every time i see neothelid i read neolithic
10:02 <K2> krm26, i put your ideas on the etherpad
10:02 <krm26> so real talk -- can i actually for real genocide beholders and magic eyes now?
10:02 <Loggers_VIII> here's an idea; make neothelids supress sensing all monsters but them by telepathy. reason being, their telepathic presence is so strong it drowns out everything else
10:03 <Loggers_VIII> *suppress?
10:03 <Loggers_VIII> yeah
10:03 <K2> veholders yes
10:03 <K2> b
10:03 <terrapin> only the ones with thick accents
10:04 <K2> vere are your paperz?
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10:06 <K2> !who
10:06 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] tinklebear [evil] Loggers [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players
10:06 <K2> !whereis krm26
10:06 <Hecubus> K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Tou Hum Fem Neu) T:80022 Gehennom level: 28
10:06 <K2> ok you left the hidden dungeon
10:06 <krm26> yes i did
10:06 <K2> k
10:06 <K2> gonna push these latest commits to servers
10:08 <K2> latest commits are live
10:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:80142 (1 day, 11:04:08)
10:08 <K2> save/reload if you want to enjoy them
10:09 <K2> if currently playing
10:09 <Loggers_VIII> cool
10:10 <K2> Loggers_VIII, terrapin added a fix for a suggestion you had
10:10 <K2> walking over magic chests, you get feedback like other chests
10:10 <Loggers_VIII> ooh cool
10:10 <Loggers_VIII> yeah that's very ncie
10:10 <Loggers_VIII> *nice
10:11 <Loggers_VIII> wow, mentioned in commit notes. I'm a celebirty
10:11 <Loggers_VIII> *celebrity!
10:11 <Loggers_VIII> I type the words
10:11 <K2> \o/
10:13 <Loggers_VIII> hermes please just make me your envoy already
10:13 <krm26> man i am so looking forward to an iron wand of wishing game
10:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed figurine of a gray dragon named Wiinaange", on T:15010 (1:33:56)
10:16 <K2> hahah
10:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Mal Cha) murdered Nicodemus, his faithful giant rat, on T:591 (0:05:22)
10:20 <Loggers_VIII> I'm at max luck it's kind of messed up that I can pray and get absolutely nothing for my trouble
10:20 <K2> hermes pays attention to the times you curse his name here
10:20 <K2> you have brought this upon yourself
10:21 <K2> plus i called him and told him everything
10:21 <K2> :P
10:21 <Loggers_VIII> you...
10:21 <Loggers_VIII> you and hermes are destined for the same fate!
10:22 <K2> heh
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10:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:15853 (1:41:27)
10:24 <Loggers_VIII> meh mithril trident is better
10:26 <K2> meh
10:27 <Loggers_VIII> that's four prayers in a row where I got jack shit man I've got max luck!
10:27 <Loggers_VIII> I think you're right he must lurk in this channel
10:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Con Orc Mal Cha), 1007 points, T:1919, killed by a steel crossbow bolt
10:29 <Loggers_VIII> ugh I can't afford to camp anymore my dragon's gonna starve
10:29 <Loggers_VIII> fuckkk youuuu hermeeeesss!!!
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10:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:80894 (1 day, 11:33:03)
10:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fireproof gjallar", on T:81135 (1 day, 11:50:06)
11:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided beholders, on T:81462 (1 day, 11:57:54)
11:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) had an elven dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:26293 (14:43:10)
11:19 <krm26> funny story, i came THIS close to being stoned by a beholder after deciding not to bother genociding them. he changed my mind!
11:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a bone two-handed sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:82018 (1 day, 12:19:15)
11:25 <K2> hah krm26
11:34 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±7] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/03fb1890b38b...f141d95a3192
11:34 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 f141d95 - Fix: more zap/explosion type corrections.
11:34 <K2> ^ qt
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11:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:7966 (6:20:10)
11:42 <K2> new role: watery tart
11:44 <Loggers_VIII> you can already polyself into water nymphs
11:44 <K2> true
11:44 <K2> but its 'nymph' not 'tart'
11:44 <krm26> are we establishing a system of government
11:44 <Umbire> clearly the 1.0 release will add a playable nymph
11:44 <K2> heh
11:45 <Umbire> trust
11:46 <krm26> think of the carrying capacity!
11:46 <qt> nice K2 
11:47 <K2> yay
11:47 <krm26> k2: "You see here a magic chest." should include locked status if known
11:48 <K2> ah
11:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:83069 (1 day, 12:47:21)
11:59 <krm26> dichotomy really helps reorganize vlad's first level with an open floor plan
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12:02 <qt> I kind of think it might make sense to reorganize a magic chest into a normal item. with this thing: it can't be lifted or teleported away, but you have to add a lot of code to imitate an item, create a dummy item for the purposes of passing to functions, etc
12:02 <qt> if it were an item you'd have to add code to make it impossible to move or polymorph or teleport away, but all the actual item-related code would Just Werk
12:02 <terrapin> hard agree
12:02 <K2> qt yeah, terrapin came to this conclusion also
12:02 <K2> ah there he is
12:04 <cbus> it would be truely evil if the chest can blow up from /oCancellation
12:05 <K2> no that's not a thing
12:05 <terrapin> i'm hoping to get around to it soon. maaaybe this Sunday? maybe next weekend
12:05 <K2> its a chest not a boh :)
12:05 <K2> terrapin cool. that change would be save-breaking though yeah?
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12:05 <terrapin> yeah
12:05 <K2> ok so dont feel like you gotta knock that out right away
12:05 <terrapin> and map-breaking, i imagine
12:06 <K2> there wont be a new version release until after new years most likely
12:06 <K2> definitely not before tnnt
12:06 <terrapin> yeah, the time limit is more that i'll forget what the hell i was doing with magic chests and find it hard to undo everything
12:06 <K2> ah understood
12:06 <K2> ok i gotcha
12:06 <K2> work on the PR, have it there, update over time as needed
12:07 <terrapin> yup
12:09 <K2> magic chest revamp along with druid role :P
12:11 <K2> i swear to god thats coming
12:12 <Loggers_VIII> throw in elder dragons too for fun
12:12 <K2> funny you mention that
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12:13 <K2> when i was contemplating dragon rider role, i had an idea
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12:13 <K2> when i was contemplating dragon rider role, i had an idea
12:13 <K2> Loggers_VIII why do you keep disconnecting all the time
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12:13 <Loggers_VIII> idk
12:14 <Loggers_VIII> go on
12:14 <K2> one sec
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12:16 <K2> heh
12:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:17898 (1:51:02)
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12:18 <Loggers_VIII> ok this is getting silly
12:20 <K2> along with ancient dragons, i was thinking of a level below baby dragons
12:20 <K2> hatchings
12:20 <K2> but... regular dragons are already pretty strong in evilhack
12:21 <K2> to set ancient dragons apart, that may wind up too powerful
12:21 <Loggers_VIII> true, I was doing some thinking about taht
12:21 <Loggers_VIII> *that
12:21 <krm26> baby dragons already don't have much to distinguish them from random monsters other than growth capability, i wouldn't bother going younger
12:21 <krm26> if you put ancient dragons in, you must make them break taming when they become ancient and be untameable
12:21 <K2> yeah just kicking around some ideas
12:22 <krm26> that would actually be pretty neat, since dragons are amazingly powerful pets -- they would inevitably "age out" and you'd lose them
12:22 <krm26> a little quid for your quo when taming dragons
12:22 <qt> interesting idea
12:22 <Loggers_VIII> here's my ideas: ancient dragons have higher AC and HP (thicker skin), have slightly weaker physical attacks, and maybe weaker breath, but have access to a special list of dragon spells
12:22 <krm26> mmm now that my brain has belched that out i really like it
12:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1071 points, T:1611, killed by a warhorse called Vita Fidelia
12:23 <K2> hmm
12:23 <K2> celestial dragon is kind of a quasi step towards ancient
12:23 <terrapin> explosion-targeted breath?
12:23 <qt> my idea is ancient dragons are too old to move, so they just sit around and drink iced tea on their porch all day. and they are racist
12:23 <K2> terrapin neat
12:23 <terrapin> not really breath then i guess
12:23 <K2> lol qt
12:24 <K2> 'get off my damn lawn!'
12:24 <Loggers_VIII> actually, ancient dragons could spawn on a pile of semi-decent treasure, but not move from it. so they're old and lazy but very tough, and you have an incentive to go after them
12:24 <Loggers_VIII> but you can ignore them if you want? idk, just spitballin
12:25 <terrapin> doesn't...one of the sp*hack variants have narcoleptic dragons?
12:25 <terrapin> can't remember which
12:25 <Loggers_VIII> probably
12:25 <terrapin> but they fall asleep every once in a while to compensate for beig pretty powerful
12:26 <terrapin> so you can run away if you want
12:26 <Umbire> That's Splice
12:26 <Umbire> The roars striking fear in you (in Hack'EM I think) originated from there
12:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 333 points, T:823, killed by a wand, while moving through the air
12:28 <Loggers_VIII> I think that you could make ancient dragons sufficiently more powerful than evilhack's default dragons, but they'd have to be implemented in a way so that you could avoid most encounters with them if you want. and then maybe stick one or two in your path in some special levels
12:29 <Umbire> something something "vaults" in hell?
12:29 <terrapin> fear would probably be a SMOP for evil. but there is a dearth of AT_SCRE attacks...
12:29 <Umbire> yeah no I'm not asking for that to be implemented
12:29 <Umbire> (in Evil specifically)
12:30 <K2> i'm not a fan of fear attacks vs the player
12:30 <terrapin> yeah i figured, just riffing off of it
12:30 <Umbire> I'd rather a player fear status like, actively prevent you from attacking rather than being stunfusion+
12:31 <K2> YANI: special room that spawns, ancient dragon sitting on a pile of loot
12:31 <Loggers_VIII> yesss
12:31 <Loggers_VIII> smaug!
12:31 <Loggers_VIII> :P
12:31 <K2> heh
12:31 <qt> I think aosdict was doing something like that (or did it already?) for xnethack
12:31 <qt> a dragon lair that has dragon on top of gold
12:31 <K2> oh did he?
12:31 <K2> nice
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12:31 <qt> but iirc the problem was that the dragons would wander away from the gold
12:31 <aosdict> yeah there isn't any AI yet for making a monster guard a certain area
12:31 <qt> so it was no longer a dragon lair by the time you got there
12:32 <K2> could flag them as M3_CLOSE maybe
12:32 <qt> maybe you could just spawn them asleep
12:32 <Loggers_VIII> ^
12:32 <Loggers_VIII> or meditating
12:32 <Loggers_VIII> asleep makes sense, anyway, if you consider depictions of dragon hoards in media
12:32 <qt> idk why I didn't think of that last time we discussed it, or maybe I did and you vetoed it for some reason?
12:32 <K2> yeah a sleeping dragon
12:32 <K2> on its stash
12:32 <terrapin> make a chest of gold and say ancient dragons can open chests in can_carry
12:32 <K2> YANI: allow dragons to hide under gold
12:32 <terrapin> bug->feature!
12:32 <aosdict> well the room in xnethack is a dragon hall with multiple dragons, baby dragons, and eggs
12:32 <aosdict> there isn't one for a single dragon
12:33 <qt> ok yeah that would be weirder if they were all asleep i guess
12:33 <Umbire> THEM has similar dragon halls
12:33 <aosdict> and in fact the adult dragons are spawned as waiting=1
12:33 <aosdict> and the babies, though ones that hatch won't be
12:33 <qt> naptime at the dragon day care
12:33 <K2> heh
12:33 <aosdict> sleeping single dragon on its hoard is a good concept though
12:33 <qt> did you guys hear about this incident in NYC where a daycare had pounds of fentanyl hidden under the floor, and the kids got into and some died?
12:34 <terrapin> if going with flags WAITFORU would probably be good
12:34 <qt> that is horrible
12:34 <aosdict> terrapin: waiting=1 sets that
12:34 <terrapin> aha
12:34 <Loggers_VIII> how do you determine what a monster's max level is? that it can reach through killing stuff
12:34 <aosdict> evilhack doesn't have waiting=1 though since it has elected to languish in 3.6 non-lua state of sadness
12:34 <Loggers_VIII> trying to figure out if my dragon is max level
12:35 <aosdict> it might have something else to spawn a mon waiting. not sure
12:35 <K2> someday
12:36 <K2> bbl
12:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 725 points, T:1756, killed by a pony, while fainted from lack of food
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12:39 <qt> Loggers_VIII: I think it's (3/2 * [permonst level])
12:39 <qt> oh I lost him
12:41 <Umbire> he'll read the logs, dw
12:44 <qt> anyway I guess the max level for a dragon is 22
12:44 <qt> well, if all dragons have the same mlevel -- maybe they don't
12:45 <Umbire> They don't necessarily, I feel like the Planes dragons are higher level
12:46 <terrapin> in the ascension run, dragons get bonus HP
12:46 <terrapin> i don't think their level is boosted directly; not sure
12:46 <qt> it looks to me like they all have the same mlevel of 15, other than shadow dragon (22) and celestial dragon (30)
12:47 <qt> Umbire: I meant the difficulty level of the permonst
12:47 <qt> rather than the level of the individual monster
12:48 <Umbire> o
12:48 <qt> so most dragons can reach a max level of 22, shadow dragons can reach a max level of 33, and celestial dragons can reach a max level of 45
12:53 <krm26> unless they go wraith engulfing up to 49
12:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1165 points, T:1876, killed by a rothe, while praying
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13:04 <qt> yeah, true. Loggers was asking what level "it can reach through killing stuff" though
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13:16 <mobileuser> weird, some of the walls of the first level in the wizard tower have gone now
13:17 <mobileuser> never mind, faulty memory
13:37 <krm26> come onnnn elder minotaur lottery
13:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61159 (1 day, 18:52:41)
13:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:84738 (1 day, 13:23:07)
13:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:61162 (1 day, 18:53:12)
13:40 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1615 (0:17:00)
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13:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) performed the invocation, on T:61419 (1 day, 19:04:40)
13:53 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2544 (0:29:15)
13:56 <mobileuser> You can't handle your Bell of Opening!
13:56 <mobileuser> hahaha
13:56 <terrapin> oh shit
13:56 <mobileuser> then how did I perform the invocation K2 :-)
13:57 <terrapin> oh you managed anyway, phew
13:57 <mobileuser> glad that is a different code path
13:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:43480 (18:08:22)
13:58 <mobileuser> yeah, second time I rang it to detect the secret door of the sanctum temple
13:58 <terrapin> ah, there's a special case in retouch_artifact
14:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) imbued the Idol of Moloch, on T:61529 (1 day, 19:14:25)
14:01 <K2> weee
14:01 <krm26> go go mobileuser
14:01 <mobileuser> woohoo
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14:02 <krm26> dont you already have more infidel ascensions than everyone else put together :-)
14:03 <mobileuser> uh...
14:04 <mobileuser> looks like it :-)
14:05 <K2> HAX
14:06 <krm26> and i thought my priest fixation was unseemly
14:07 <krm26> so i really hate unstackable stackable items. i *thought* i understood it to be related to invisible fixing on default-fixed materials but there is a problem beyond that because i have THREE stacks of fully-identified +0 silver elven daggers and if that was the cause there should be no more than two stacks
14:08 <krm26> it is something that results from forging
14:08 <krm26> and it actually substantively impacts the game for blessing, enchanting, fixing, greasing, quivering
14:09 <K2> hrm
14:10 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:32381 (12:37:22)
14:11 <krm26> quick and dirty maybe-fix that makes sense (to me): forged non-artifacts always get unfooproofed irregardless of source materials
14:12 <krm26> really frustrating with silver elven daggers which are a pain in the butt to make...the small number i could squeeze out of non-wooden runed arrows and they are all split
14:12 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:1600 (0:07:44)
14:14 <mobileuser> krm26 it's one of two roles that can cast advanced cone of cold. think rodney MR + double trouble
14:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1871 (0:11:01)
14:16 <mobileuser> food time, bbl
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14:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4066 (0:36:43)
14:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 9 crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:5872 (1:28:12)
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14:39 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law) became literate by engraving "erere", on T:4715 (0:46:16)
14:39 <K2> meh. this minetown isnt ideal
14:39 <tinklebear> good day, K2
14:39 <K2> heya
14:39 * tinklebear reads the logs
14:40 <K2> wasnt me. didnt do it
14:40 <K2> cant prove anything
14:41 <tinklebear> muh internet keeps noping out. need to say hi while I still can
14:41 <K2> :/
14:41 <K2> how's the game going so far?
14:41 <tinklebear> this one is good
14:41 <tinklebear> like usual!
14:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4899 (0:48:33)
14:41 <K2> woop
14:42 <tinklebear> there's a statue of Loggers in minetown.
14:42 <K2> break it
14:42 <K2> assert dominance
14:42 <tinklebear> but it's a piece of art
14:42 <K2> and then screenshot it and show loggers later whwn he's here
14:42 <K2> heh
14:44 <Noisytoot> is it a bones level?
14:44 <tinklebear> yes
14:44 <Umbire> did you think tinklebear was calling the gnome king statue loggers or something
14:45 <tinklebear> It's not murkytown. Just a regular lit minetown
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14:46 <tinklebear> Want to see your Minetown monument, Loggers?
14:46 <Loggers_VIII> sure
14:46 <Loggers_VIII> I remember it like it was yesterday
14:46 <tinklebear> k, give me a second to remember my password...
14:47 <tinklebear> okay. logged in
14:49 <Loggers_VIII> it’s a work of art, really
14:49 <Loggers_VIII> I did it myself
14:49 <tinklebear> "The healer is in fine health for a statue"
14:49 <Loggers_VIII> ok you can break it for my loot now
14:50 <tinklebear> you sure?
14:50 <K2> heh
14:50 <tinklebear> there was some kind of nice stuff lying around on the floor already
14:50 <Loggers_VIII> not much use to you as a statue is it
14:50 <tinklebear> Art is the pinnacle of human achievement
14:50 <Loggers_VIII> You could stone to flesh me and then kill me that would be funny
14:50 <tinklebear> er, tortle achievement
14:51 <Loggers_VIII> and don’t you forget it
14:51 <tinklebear> well, if you insist
14:52 <Loggers_VIII> loggers piñata! :)
14:52 <tinklebear> haha
14:54 <tinklebear> eucalyptus leaf. so far so good
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14:59 <Loggers_VIII> @e?gray dragon
14:59 <Hecubus> gray dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 breath magic missile, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest, 0d0 passive cancellation | Align: 4 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis
15:01 <tinklebear> What do you want to name this mithril elven dagger Sting? // Feyd Rautha // Sting resists the attempt.
15:01 <Loggers_VIII> sting doesn't like being called names!
15:01 <tinklebear> :/
15:02 <tinklebear> but he really got into that harkonnen role!
15:03 <Loggers_VIII> lol
15:03 <tinklebear> when I find a can of grease, I'll lather him up
15:04 <Loggers_VIII> gray dragons should have mr 100 tbh
15:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law), 14639 points, T:8498, killed by spear trap
15:04 <K2> boo
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15:05 <tinklebear> tortle shashlik
15:05 <Loggers_VIII> it's good to see a dev play his own variant even if it kicks his ass :p
15:06 <K2> i kick my own ass
15:06 <Loggers_VIII> by proxy
15:06 <K2> heh
15:06 <tinklebear> s/kick/poke
15:07 <Loggers_VIII> ass-pokings are too wishy-washy I prefer a good straightforward ass-kicking
15:07 <Loggers_VIII> check out those hyphens baby
15:07 <tinklebear> boot trap
15:07 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/f141d95a3192...e460991bc203
15:07 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 e460991 - Fix: grammar when killed by a spear trap.
15:07 <Loggers_VIII> hahah that was fast
15:07 <K2> easy fix
15:08 <Loggers_VIII> good example of why getting down in the weeds yourself can be a good thing!
15:08 <K2> yup
15:08 <K2> you never really find the bugs until you play
15:08 <K2> or more importantly, figure out what's fun vs not
15:08 <Loggers_VIII> all dev team members should be required to meet a quota of at least 6 ascensions per year
15:08 <Loggers_VIII> and I don't even think I'm joking
15:08 <K2> i think they play more often than we realize
15:08 <Loggers_VIII> well, I'm joking  alittle.
15:09 <K2> either locally or online using an alt
15:09 <Loggers_VIII> yeah, just on their local secret lab copies
15:09 <K2> pure speculation
15:09 <Loggers_VIII> installed on the forbidden OS
15:09 <K2> heh
15:09 <jonadab> The OS they use isn't forbidden, it's just so antiquated that you've never heard of it.l
15:10 <Loggers_VIII> lol can you imagine, if they develop nethack on like templeos or some shit
15:10 <Loggers_VIII> dungeonos
15:11 <jonadab> OS/400
15:11 <Loggers_VIII> gasp
15:11 <krm26> you guys think the late 80s is ancient? sigh
15:12 <jonadab> For computer software?
15:12 <krm26> double sigh
15:12 <Loggers_VIII> yeah yeah I know you were playing nethack on rocks and shit but whatever
15:12 <Loggers_VIII> you're like one of those druids from discworld
15:12 * jonadab has a Vax in his bedroom but has not used it recently.
15:13 <jonadab> krm26: Let me guess:  you play NetHack on an analog oscilloscope that was manufactured in the fifties?
15:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8783 (1:20:44)
15:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a titanothere, on T:33936 (13:19:34)
15:14 <krm26> are there non-analog oscilloscopes?
15:14 <Loggers_VIII> yes
15:14 <jonadab> These days?  Almost certainly.
15:14 <krm26> weird
15:14 <Loggers_VIII> nice I totally made up that answer maybe I'm right
15:15 <jonadab> Google says yes.
15:15 <jonadab> And you can buy them on Amazon.
15:15 <Loggers_VIII> how much
15:15 <jonadab> For less than half a grand.
15:15 <Loggers_VIII> what a deal
15:16 <jonadab> I mean, for lab equipment, that is not very much.
15:16 <jonadab> Assuming it's actually good.
15:16 <jonadab> Which, I didn't do any actual research on the product here. 
15:16 <jonadab> Just a quick search to verify it exists.
15:16 <Loggers_VIII> I wonder if I could play nethack in the dust on the floor
15:16 <Loggers_VIII> probably not
15:17 <jonadab> Not if you've cleaned the floor recently.
15:17 <Loggers_VIII> I would need a very dusty floor, yeah
15:17 <Noisytoot> You could play nethack in your head (just imagine that you're playing it)
15:17 <jonadab> Noisytoot: Don't remind me about those dreams.
15:17 <krm26> i've used a terminal which did not have a display -- just hard copy. but never tried playing games on it
15:17 <Loggers_VIII> I have done that on more than one occasion, sometimes unconsciously
15:18 <jonadab> krm26: I think the most primitive terminal I've used was a VT420.
15:18 <Loggers_VIII> a couple nights ago I put a bag of tricks into the bag of the hesperides and woke up in a cold sweat
15:18 <K2> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism <-- original use was to solve sokoban levels
15:18 <Noisytoot> playing NetHack with a line printer would waste a lot of paper
15:18 <jonadab> (MOst primitive physical terminal, I mean.  Software is another matter.)
15:18 <cbus> k2, that thingie is in the new indiana jones movie
15:18 <cbus> :P
15:18 <K2> it is?
15:18 <Loggers_VIII> noisytoot meh what do we need rainforests for anywa? :)
15:18 <K2> neat
15:18 <Loggers_VIII> *anyway
15:18 <jonadab> Loggers_VIII: For furniture.
15:19 <Loggers_VIII> ahh, good point.
15:19 <K2> ikea enters chat
15:19 <Loggers_VIII> well we can set aside 10% of them for ikea
15:19 <jonadab> Loggers_VIII: But rainforest lumber isn't good for paper anyway.  Too hard to process.   You want fast-growth pine for that.
15:19 <cbus> the movie itself was as expected
15:19 <cbus> better than last one but not great
15:19 <cbus> but not gonna spoil it :)
15:20 <Loggers_VIII> they all die in the end
15:20 <Loggers_VIII> (snakes)
15:20 <cbus> k2, is there any way to see what combos I havent ascended easily in 3.7?
15:21 <jonadab> I haven't kept up.  I think the last IJ movie I saw was the one with Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra in it.
15:21 <cbus> I ended up manually searching but would be nice with a fancy bot function or page
15:21 <cbus> (thats what I am trying to streak now) :D
15:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +3 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:86522 (1 day, 15:05:17)
15:21 <K2> https://nethackscoreboard.org/players/t/torpedojuice.nh.html prob your best bet
15:22 <Loggers_VIII> why not wish for an oilskin toque?
15:22 <cbus> yeah thats what I ended up checking then fil/tering
15:22 <krm26> elven helms can be enchanted further than toques, no?
15:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Lucifer, on T:61591 (1 day, 19:25:46)
15:22 <Loggers_VIII> yeah but who cares toques are cooler
15:22 <krm26> i mean, i don't, but that's the only difference i can think of
15:22 <tinklebear> is a toque like a fez?
15:22 <jonadab> cbus: should be trivial with WWW::Mechanize and HTML::TreeBuilder.
15:22 <Loggers_VIII> don't have to worry about celestial dragons
15:23 <Loggers_VIII> a toque is like a fuzzy hat that covers your ears with flaps
15:23 <tinklebear> ah
15:23 <terrapin> toques protect you from screams
15:23 <krm26> no it is not :-)  it is just a cap or beanie
15:23 <tinklebear> a fuzzy sherlock holmes
15:23 <terrapin> ah Loggers said that
15:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered Purgatory, on T:61600 (1 day, 19:26:49)
15:23 <cbus> jonadab, I am 10 wins from all race/role combos at least :)
15:23 <cbus> I dont want to count alignment/gender since those can easily be changed in the game
15:24 <Loggers_VIII> krm26 anti-toque propaganda
15:24 <tinklebear> oh, okay. a canadian beanie
15:24 <jonadab> cbus: race/role/starting-alignment/starting-gender combos :-)
15:24 <krm26> cbus, in vanilla?
15:24 <cbus> krm26, yeah 3.7
15:24 <krm26> gotcha
15:24 <jonadab> cbus: I think stth did all race/role/starting-alignment/final-alignment combos in 343.
15:24 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1194 points, T:1987, killed by a mountain dwarf
15:24 <cbus> I couldve checked of a few more if I combined the account
15:25 <cbus> jonadab, yeah I might end up writing a script for it in the end to keep track of starting alignment
15:25 <krm26> i was gonna say, i don't think even mobileuser is very close to that in evilhack
15:25 <K2> toque - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2625
15:25 <Loggers_VIII> I know graznop was trying for that
15:25 <K2> firefly was the inspiration for it in evilhack
15:25 <Loggers_VIII> but haven't seen him in a while
15:25 <mobileuser> 19 messages about Urdi the wizard putting stuff in a bag
15:25 <krm26> that is not technically a toque, just a cunning hat
15:25 <K2> hush
15:25 <Loggers_VIII> hush
15:25 <K2> blaspheme
15:26 <krm26> i'll be in my bunk
15:26 <K2> heh
15:26 <tinklebear> perfect picture, K2
15:26 <jonadab> Oh, the toque image just looks like what we call a "winter hat" around here.  Although not all winter hats have the side flaps and strings.  Some are meant to be used with a coat collar that zips up past your nose.
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15:26 <K2> whenever i wear a toque in evilhack, I imagine it looks like that
15:27 <K2> that's why its glyph is orange color 
15:27 <eggandhull> found a celestial-scaled chain mail -- can i somehow preserve the scale and forge it into a mithril large splint mail?
15:27 <Loggers_VIII> no
15:27 <K2> nice find though
15:27 <K2> oh you're a giant
15:27 <K2> give it to a humanoid pet
15:27 <krm26> you can't put anything onto your large splint mail except for tiamat
15:29 <jonadab> Also, I'm now curious about the geographical extent of various meanings of the word "beanie".  I grew up only knowing the meaning that involves a propeller on top, did not start to see other meanings until I started interacting with people from far-flung places on the internet.
15:29 <eggandhull> i see
15:29 <eggandhull> i haven't been using pets at all 
15:30 <krm26> pets can be great
15:30 <eggandhull> read scroll of taming for a black dragon?
15:30 <Loggers_VIII> beanie can also be like that hat skinny pete in breaking bad wears
15:30 <jonadab> pets are essential in the early game when you don't yet have much armor or access to an altar.
15:30 <Loggers_VIII> that's the only way I can think of it
15:31 <mobileuser> K2 why is Rhodora the invisible Raider constantly fighting a spectre?
15:31 <krm26> make sure you aren't wearing dragonbane before you go dragontaming
15:31 <jonadab> I haven't seen that.  Stopped watching television well before that show existed.
15:31 <K2> its a purgatory thing
15:31 <K2> mobileuser
15:31 <Loggers_VIII> huh, I didn't know about that
15:31 <Loggers_VIII> player monsters fight spectres in purg?
15:31 <K2>        players for a chance at redemption */
15:31 <K2>     if (In_purgatory(&u.uz)
15:31 <K2>         && is_mplayer(ma) && md == &mons[PM_SPECTRE])
15:31 <K2>         return ALLOW_M | ALLOW_TM;
15:31 <K2> oops
15:32 <K2>     ./* In Purgatory, lost souls will fight living
15:32 <K2>        players for a chance at redemption */
15:32 <K2>     if (In_purgatory(&u.uz)
15:32 <K2>         && is_mplayer(ma) && md == &mons[PM_SPECTRE])
15:32 <K2>         return ALLOW_M | ALLOW_TM;
15:32 <mobileuser> TIL, thx!
15:32 <K2> o/
15:32 <tinklebear> !whereis eggandhull
15:32 <Hecubus> tinklebear: [hdf-us] eggandhull [evil]: (Sam Gia Mal Law) T:156850 Sokoban level: 8
15:32 <tinklebear> making sure eggandhull isn't a knight
15:33 <tinklebear> (sposedly knights can't tame dragons)
15:33 <krm26> they can if the alignment is right
15:33 <tinklebear> really?
15:33 <krm26> (new)
15:33 <tinklebear> interesting
15:33 <krm26> (yes)
15:33 <Loggers_VIII> not really new it's been a thing since 0.8.2 but no one knew about it
15:33 <K2> even though i've died several times, i am really enjoying tortle samurai. should have made this a combo from the get go
15:34 <Loggers_VIII> tortles are just so so good
15:34 <eggandhull> so what are so good pets for a late game (not end game) giant samurai? 
15:35 <Loggers_VIII> you don't need a pet
15:35 <krm26> my preference is for race/role combos that make you really struggle in the early game, because i enjoy the early game the most...tortles make you really struggle in the mid/late game :-)
15:35 <Loggers_VIII> if you want a pet get an archon, give it SoA+Ashmar
15:35 <Loggers_VIII> win
15:35 <K2> dragons make good pets. vampire king/queen/mage
15:35 <krm26> the best pets are dragons because of engulfing
15:35 <krm26> take a dragon to the valley and vlads and let them engulf wraiths up to level 49
15:35 <Loggers_VIII> yeah but your dragons DIE
15:35 <krm26> well, all pets die
15:36 <Loggers_VIII> not archons if you know what you're doing
15:36 <krm26> you don't need spiked barding since they are huge so put polished barding on them and make sure you dump boulders on polytraps
15:37 <krm26> i suppose the dream is ithilmar but it is so challenging to make because of cross-aligned artifact requirements
15:37 <eggandhull> hmmm looks like i gotta take care of another guy besides myself :)
15:37 <Loggers_VIII> pets are just not necessary for you tbh
15:37 <krm26> (no way to get an archon up to 49 short of i guess smashing them repeatedly with gain level)
15:37 <eggandhull> speaking of artifacts..does Demonbane in evil suppress gating? I may need it to go back to Tiamat/Baph
15:37 <Loggers_VIII> who cares they're still better than your dragons
15:37 <krm26> it does
15:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 1152 points, T:2188, burned by molten lava
15:38 <krm26> even better, you can forge demonbane into the hammer of the gods which also stops gating and is even better
15:38 <krm26> evener betterer
15:38 <eggandhull> krm26: nice!
15:38 <eggandhull> I can forge Hotg
15:38 <eggandhull> basic skill tho
15:38 <K2> more betterly
15:39 <krm26> dual wield soa/hotg and see how quickly you vanish gehennom
15:39 <jonadab> YASI:  new monster, "butterfly".  Generates when you are carrying the Amulet.  When it flaps its wings, all sorts of things can happen.
15:40 <eggandhull> should've done that yesterday
15:40 <eggandhull> to avoid the tiamat drama
15:41 <Loggers_VIII> what's your hp now
15:41 <krm26> i just drank 30 blessed potions of extra healing so mine is pretty nice thank you very much
15:41 <eggandhull> hp 151 LOL
15:41 <eggandhull> haven't danced
15:41 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1173 (0:08:36)
15:41 <K2> oooh snap
15:42 <K2> first early game altar i've seen in several games
15:42 <jonadab> "The butterfly flaps its wings.  Suddenly, you are standing in lava.  Monsters appear from nowhere.  You feel strange.  The butterfly flaps its wings.  You realize that you are naked..."
15:42 <krm26> as he squirmed and struggled and gurgled and guggled i drew my snicccckeersneeeeee
15:42 <eggandhull> 16 * xp19 = 300hp would roughly be the upper bound of nurse dancing?
15:42 <Umbire> There's no strict upper bound, just a point of diminishing returns
15:43 <krm26> oh never shall i forget the cry or the SHRIEK that shrieked he...as i gnashed my teeth when from its sheath i drew my snickersnee!
15:43 <Loggers_VIII> beautiful
15:43 <K2> adding stun res when wielding snickersnee was an excellence suggestion krm26
15:43 <Loggers_VIII> gnomishwizardbane
15:43 <K2> makes snickersnee a worthy artifact
15:44 <jonadab> "The butterfly flaps its wings.  Suddenly, you realize that you were never born.  Do you want your possessions identified?  Oh wait, you never had any."
15:44 <krm26> i haven't gotten to play with that yet! but i have tortle sammy on my list
15:44 <krm26> it is cool that you can acquire it so early and then go tell all those gnome mages where to shove it
15:44 <Loggers_VIII> I am still holding out for someone to add a feature where vorpal blade goes "snicker-snack!" when it decapitates something
15:45 <krm26> when you are mounted and using vorpal blade your mount should make gallumphing noises
15:45 <terrapin> note also that at 300 HP your HP gain from level-ups decreases, so practically speaking something like 260/270 is about as good if you plan to get to XL30 later
15:47 <Umbire> Loggers_VIII, I'd make that jabberwock-specific
15:47 <Loggers_VIII> yeah, makes sense
15:47 <Loggers_VIII> still
15:48 <Loggers_VIII> snicker-snack! might be one of the most perfect renditions of a monster getting their head cut off
15:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:86891 (1 day, 15:32:57)
15:49 <Loggers_VIII> speak, of the devil
15:50 <jonadab> Loggers_VIII: "Boom, chick, boom boom, swieeeeeeeeeeeeewsh, boom, chick, boom boom, swieeeeeeeeeeewsh"
15:50 <Loggers_VIII> lol
15:50 <jonadab> (Does Louis XVI count as a monster?)
15:50 <Loggers_VIII> yea
15:51 <krm26> hah, i missed it! there it is
15:51 <jonadab> (Those sound effects are from the song, Long Live The King, At Least Until He's Dead, which is about the French Revolution.)
15:53 <eggandhull> terrapin: oh i see. sounds like the optimal strategy is dance to ~260-270 at xl 19 now, finish everything up to rodney, level up to ~30, kill rodney and acend
15:54 <Loggers_VIII> you can level to 30 before rodney really
15:54 <jonadab> "Mourn for the king / With sniffles and a sob / Pity the king, for he has lost his job. / Poor little king, this is his final day. / He'll get the axe but he'll get no severence pay..."
15:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:3820 (0:40:16)
15:56 <terrapin> so speaking of the whole rustproofing thing, I have two thoughts on it: 1) it looks very simple to add code to mergeable() so that if two objects are made from supermaterials and identical save for proofing, they are both (un)fixed and then merged. 2) since the fixed status of supermaterial armor actually matters, it should be displayed. perhaps as "warded"?
16:01 <Loggers_VIII> number one is better
16:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3258 (0:28:26)
16:01 <Loggers_VIII> number two results in the same nonsensical annoyance but the game tells you it's doing it
16:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Law), 2939 points, T:4083, killed by the Goblin King
16:02 <terrapin> i considered that maybe supermaterial armor shouldn't be fooproofed
16:03 <terrapin> but that makes it more vulnerable than other armor to the monster spell, which seems odd
16:03 <krm26> yes, it is a minor problem that fixed materials can still be fooproofed
16:03 <Loggers_VIII> it's already odd that it can be un-fooproofed anyway
16:03 <Loggers_VIII> and stay fooproofed intrinsically
16:03 <K2> i'm thinking if an object is already 'fixed' it shouldnt become 'fixed' does that make sense?
16:03 <Loggers_VIII> yes
16:03 <krm26> the best solution is to ensure that fixed materials cannot be additionally "fixed"
16:03 <krm26> yes k2
16:03 <K2> ^ this
16:04 <terrapin> yeah, sure, i'm cool with that
16:04 <K2> but yeah it is a bit odd isnt it
16:04 <terrapin> then 2) would become "add code in mcastu so supermaterial armor is made unfixed before damaging it"
16:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:87690 (1 day, 15:48:41)
16:05 <terrapin> obviously more comprehensive measures in read.c and mk_sobj would be nice but you'd probably want those two as failsafes regardless
16:05 <krm26> why is my pit fiend pet picking up silver items
16:05 <Loggers_VIII> he can't be contained by the rulez
16:06 <Umbire> you can still pick up silver as a silver hater, just can't wear or wield it iirc
16:06 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3368 (0:32:53)
16:06 <krm26> but why would he want to!
16:06 <krm26> ugh he wont wield the sword of kas, loser
16:06 <cbus> he likes the sizzle
16:06 <K2> Loggers_VIII's fault
16:07 <terrapin> oh yeah, mobileuser encountered that too
16:07 <Loggers_VIII> whaddidido
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16:07 <terrapin> any artifact with damage bonuses vs. someone (including you) is considered a bane to them
16:07 <mobileuser> yeah, bane weapon
16:08 <mobileuser> I unlocked 2-handed sword in vain :-)
16:08 <terrapin> this was always the case but no one really noticed because wearing gloves allowed you to wield artifacts without getting blasted for a while
16:08 <terrapin> personally i think it's odd
16:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1722 (0:15:17)
16:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4346 (0:47:40)
16:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:4348 (0:48:04)
16:21 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:4370 (0:48:36)
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16:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered the Planes, on T:62440 (1 day, 20:09:19)
16:22 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:16445 (2:18:52)
16:26 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5774 points, T:4484, zombified by a drow zombie
16:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Mal Law) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:157921 (1 day, 20:11:57)
16:28 <Loggers_VIII> @e?geryon
16:28 <Hecubus> Geryon (&) | Lvl: 72 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: unique | AC: -3 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw physical, 2d8 sting drain str, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: 15 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis
16:29 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:88589 (1 day, 16:12:59)
16:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class c), on T:17665 (2:28:20)
16:32 <Loggers_VIII> does geryon generate with any special equipment in evil that he didn't in vanilla?
16:32 <K2> polearm i think
16:36 <Loggers_VIII> battle axe of shock, looks lik
16:36 <Loggers_VIII> like
16:36 <Loggers_VIII> ah I see, baph's got the bardiche
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16:37 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:46432 (20:06:53)
16:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:89033 (1 day, 16:22:12)
16:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:19178 (2:43:31)
16:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Famine, on T:62653 (1 day, 20:31:35)
16:48 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed dragonhide speed boots", on T:89101 (1 day, 16:32:42)
16:49 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the saddled Black Horse, on T:62654 (1 day, 20:32:10)
16:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a pair of silver gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:19621 (2:47:42)
16:55 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the high priest, on T:62680 (1 day, 20:37:57)
17:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) put Death down for a little nap, on T:62717 (1 day, 20:43:03)
17:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:62718 (1 day, 20:43:13)
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17:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) murdered her faithful woolly mammoth, on T:62739 (1 day, 20:48:14)
17:05 <mobileuser> wtf
17:06 <mobileuser> did I just lose perfect alignment score? :-(
17:06 <Loggers_VIII> shouldnt've woolly rained
17:06 <Loggers_VIII> shouldn't've?
17:06 <mobileuser> You kill the poor woolly mammoth!  You feel guilty.
17:06 <mobileuser> I don't ge it
17:06 <mobileuser> * get it
17:06 <Loggers_VIII> I didn't catch what happened either
17:07 <mobileuser> I just displaced a pet I think
17:07 <mobileuser> also, I thought Moloch didn't care
17:08 <Loggers_VIII> I think moloch likes it if you sacrifice your pet, but you still get a penalty for killing it
17:08 <mobileuser> probably
17:08 <Loggers_VIII> which altar are you supposed to go to?
17:08 <mobileuser> I don't even know what happened
17:08 <mobileuser> chaos
17:08 <mobileuser> need the last one
17:08 <Loggers_VIII> damn
17:08 <Loggers_VIII> brb
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17:09 <mobileuser> meanwhile, people are getting ready for bed :-)
17:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Pestilence, on T:62748 (1 day, 20:53:57)
17:11 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the saddled White Horse, on T:62748 (1 day, 20:53:59)
17:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una), 6527249 points, T:62772, ascended (with the Idol)
17:16 <Hecubus> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1694761103.evil.html
17:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1445 (0:10:12)
17:17 <K2> \o/
17:17 <K2> congrats mobileuser!
17:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:12602 (11:08:57)
17:22 <mobileuser> thanks! Infidel 5-streak :-)
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17:28 <tinklebear> what the hell!
17:30 <tinklebear> !streak mobileuser
17:30 <Hecubus> tinklebear: [hdf-eu] mobileuser Max[evil]: 5 (2021-07-30 - 2021-12-13). Current[evil]: 5 (since 2022-12-16). :: [hdf-us] mobileuser Max[evil]: 5 (2021-05-23 - 2022-09-17).
17:30 <tinklebear> jfc
17:30 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:36023 (14:24:55)
17:31 <mobileuser> thanks I guess =D
17:33 <tinklebear> INCONCEIVABLE
17:33 <mobileuser> vaderflag still has the record, 6
17:33 <mobileuser> https://nethackscoreboard.org/streaks.evil.html
17:36 <tinklebear> sinister number, 6
17:37 <tinklebear> eeeeeevil
17:39 <mobileuser> K2 I enjoyed the new content very much!
17:39 <mobileuser> bedtime now, see you later!
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17:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3149 (0:24:07)
17:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 1954 points, T:3153, quit
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18:16 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1788 (0:14:37)
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18:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] StinkyFingers (Inf Dro Fem Una), 617 points, T:1143, killed by a hobbit zombie
18:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:15401 (12:19:31)
19:01 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a tsurugi bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:159530 (1 day, 21:30:32)
19:02 <tinklebear> forge-crafting is the best thing
19:03 <K2> !tell mobileuser thank you!
19:03 <Hecubus> I'm on it, K2.
19:04 <tinklebear> I like to collect and sort all the dungeon junk, just for the sake of knowing what was in the dungeon...
19:04 <tinklebear> ...but now it's actually useful!
19:12 <tinklebear> "Thanks, I made it myself!"
19:12 * tinklebear beams with pride
19:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) had a steel kabuto entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6732 (1:03:07)
19:17 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) had a spear entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:8245 (1:07:13)
19:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a glass scale mail entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:6677 (1:17:28)
19:20 <K2> tinklebear hah
19:20 <K2> i've done that sometimes
19:20 <K2> fort ludios drives my ocd nuts
19:20 <tinklebear> ha, you know!
19:20 <K2> oh yes
19:21 <K2> i used to sort objects in shops
19:21 <tinklebear> ooh, 7 unknown arrows!
19:22 <tinklebear> gotta find that +3 crossbow, or whatever
19:24 <K2> :)
19:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:10214 (1:17:05)
19:27 <K2> aww yeah
19:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:8541 (1:34:19)
19:32 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law), 12242 points, T:11058, killed by Mr. Iskenderun; the shopkeeper, while sleeping
19:32 <K2> boo/hiss
19:32 <tinklebear> !lastgame k2
19:32 <Hecubus> tinklebear: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1577469384.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1695411189.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1576941662.evil.html
19:33 <krm26> congrats mobileuser! how was the new wizards tower?
19:33 <K2> he said he enjoyed the new content before he left
19:34 <K2> but no specifics
19:35 <tinklebear> "So, k2, you dare return to Iskenderun's used armor dealership?!"
19:35 <tinklebear> lol
19:35 <K2> heh
19:35 <tinklebear> "used armor dealership"
19:35 <tinklebear> like it's the taj mahal or something
19:35 <K2> the orc shopkeeper thought so
19:36 <krm26> you thought you could glamdring him huh
19:36 <K2> well i was hangry
19:36 <K2> and because of wielding glamdring, he was already pissed off, no changing that
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19:37 <K2> and i also discovered i cant dual wield glamdring and snickersnee (lawful/chaotic artifacts)
19:37 <K2> forgot about that detail
19:37 <K2> this made me sad
19:37 <K2> then i got frost brand and was happy again
19:37 <K2> and then i died
19:37 <eggandhull> Shoot. Accidentally angered a co-aligned priest. Does reading taming work to pacify him? ...or killing him may work (won't lose protection right?)
19:38 <Noisytoot> if he's co-aligned, you probably will
19:38 <K2> if that priest was the one that gave you the protection yes you will lose it if you kill him
19:38 <Noisytoot> I don't think what priest gave you protection is tracked anywhere
19:38 <Noisytoot> it's just that you'll lose it if you kill a coaligned priest
19:39 <K2> probably
19:39 <eggandhull> shit
19:39 <K2> i dont do that enough to remember the details
19:39 <K2> have blessed taming scrolls handy?
19:39 <eggandhull> have an uncursed one
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19:40 <Loggers_VIII> hola
19:40 <Hecubus> Hello Loggers_VIII, Welcome to #evilhack
19:41 <eggandhull> tamed it now!
19:41 <K2> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Scroll_of_taming
19:41 <K2> worth a shot
19:41 <K2> oh yay
19:41 <K2> heya Loggers_VIII
19:41 <tinklebear> eggandhull
19:42 * tinklebear typoed
19:42 <tinklebear> but hi, eggandhull. glad your priest calmed down
19:42 <eggandhull> yay was shooting boulders
19:43 <tinklebear> also, you're lawful. pretty sure killing an aligned priest (of any alignment) will count as murder
19:44 <tinklebear> *would
19:44 <tinklebear> and that would lose you protection, afaik
19:44 <Loggers_VIII> killing any human* monster that starts peaceful is murder for all alignments
19:44 <Loggers_VIII> I don't think that murdering things loses protection, though. just telepathy and alignment and stuff
19:45 <Loggers_VIII> killing a coaligned priest loses you protection for certain
19:47 * tinklebear remembers how long it's been since he had any protection to lose...
19:47 <tinklebear> don't listen to me. I don't know what I'm talking about
19:47 <Loggers_VIII> I often have 20 protection to lose as a result of scumbaggery, so I remember these things :P
19:51 <Noisytoot> Murder does not make you lose protection. Angering your god does.
19:52 <eggandhull> i disintegrated Vlad's sword so not going to drain myself to lvl 1
19:52 <Loggers_VIII> use a vampire
19:52 <krm26> or the level 2 drain spell
19:53 <tinklebear> @e?wraith
19:53 <Hecubus> wraith (W) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold sleep poison petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 15 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Atk: 1d6 touch level drain | Align: -6 | genocidable, flies, breathless, unsolid, stalker, passes-bars
19:53 <tinklebear> @e?vampire
19:53 <Hecubus> vampire (V) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 25 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 1 | Atk: 1d6 claw physical, 1d6 bite level drain | Align: -8 | genocidable, flies, breathless, regen, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis
19:53 <Loggers_VIII> a wraith is ideal if you're gonna use a monster
19:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:89505 (1 day, 16:54:31)
19:54 <eggandhull> what the hell, i sacrified some unicorn and god/priest angered again
19:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:89507 (1 day, 16:54:51)
19:54 <Loggers_VIII> "some unicorn" what type of unicorn lol
19:55 <eggandhull> not for real lost 9 points of ac
19:55 <eggandhull> p sure it was not a white unicorn...
19:55 <Loggers_VIII> kinda sounds like it was
19:56 <Loggers_VIII> pull up previous messages
19:57 <eggandhull> think imma leave this priest alone. man i suck at this game
19:57 <eggandhull> The altar is stained with giant blood.
19:57 <tinklebear> lol
19:57 <eggandhull> oh ... maybe accidental same race sacrifice..
19:57 <Loggers_VIII> was there a giant corpse on the altar when you tried to sac the unicorn
19:57 <Loggers_VIII> from a giant zombie maybe?
19:58 <eggandhull> zombies can't be sacrified right
19:58 <Loggers_VIII> if they're same race they can
19:59 <eggandhull> wat
19:59 <Loggers_VIII> basically if a corpse is your race it doesn't matter how old it is you can always sac it
19:59 <eggandhull> now i seriously need to drain myself down and buy 20 points
19:59 <Loggers_VIII> lol
20:00 <tinklebear> no statute of limitation for same race sacrifice
20:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:810 (0:07:29)
20:00 <krm26> wow this pit fiend pet is really a fiend for pits
20:00 <Loggers_VIII> isn't that just the pits
20:00 <Loggers_VIII> pitiful, even
20:01 <tinklebear> @e?pit fiend
20:01 <Hecubus> pit fiend (&) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 65 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -3 | Atk: 4d2 weapon physical, 4d2 weapon physical, 4d4 hug create-pit | Align: -13 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis
20:01 <krm26> what is on the tin is in the tin
20:02 <tinklebear> I don't see any wings. Why no wings?
20:02 <Loggers_VIII> flies
20:02 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1123 (0:09:22)
20:02 <tinklebear> ah. I was searching for "fly"
20:02 <Loggers_VIII> YANI: some boss monsters have an ability where if they haven't been able to attack you for a while, they cause an earthquake
20:03 <Loggers_VIII> boulder-fort counter
20:03 <tinklebear> earthquake would be a cool monster spell for sure
20:04 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 2089 points, T:1282, killed by a piranha
20:04 <Loggers_VIII> and there's still a chance that your boulder fort isn't messed up so that's cool I guess
20:05 <krm26> heh my pit fiend got stunned and confused and started gating in quite a lot of hostile demons
20:05 <krm26> this is a Bad Pet
20:06 <Loggers_VIII> give it a unihorn
20:15 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:20342 (2:24:43)
20:15 <Loggers_VIII> I keep winning the soko lottery and getting MR
20:18 <krm26> not even gold! definite hax
20:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Mephistopheles, on T:90988 (1 day, 17:19:18)
20:19 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:20903 (2:28:06)
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20:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:21161 (2:32:42)
20:25 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Nightsorrow the human zombie, and former Ninja, on T:21405 (2:34:16)
20:25 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame nightsorrow
20:25 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nightsorrow/evilhack/dumplog/1695405898.evil.html
20:27 <Loggers_VIII> wow quite a nice bones
20:30 <Loggers_VIII> oh weird, cure blindness isn't directional
20:30 <Loggers_VIII> really, all of those spells should have been made directional at the same time
20:32 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame k2
20:32 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1577469384.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1695426232.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1576941662.evil.html
20:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible k2's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:21936 (2:42:34)
20:33 <Loggers_VIII> magic lamp \o/
20:38 <Loggers_VIII> !tell k2 maybe magic keys shouldn't be left in bones?
20:38 <Hecubus> No worries, Loggers_VIII, I've got this!
20:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:92206 (1 day, 17:38:56)
20:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:92210 (1 day, 17:39:07)
20:44 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22350 (2:50:33)
20:46 <K2> yeah i was thinking that earlier
20:46 <Hecubus> K2: Message from Loggers_VIII at 2023-09-22 20:38 EDT: maybe magic keys shouldn't be left in bones?
20:48 <K2> easy enough to just have it be a regular key in bones
20:48 <K2> add a case for magic keys in resetobjs()
20:49 <Loggers_VIII> cool
20:49 <K2> glad you brought it up
20:49 <K2> i'll fix that tonight
20:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a carnivorous ape, on T:28657 (4:20:33)
20:51 <Loggers_VIII> just got reminded cuz I got one in your bones
20:51 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (black dragons), on T:22869 (2:58:04)
20:52 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Sam Gia Mal Law), 201352 points, T:28715, killed by a barrow wight
20:55 <krm26> i've fallen into the infinite trap of the tourist with edible rings of increase accuracy and damage
20:57 <Loggers_VIII> fun trap to fall into
20:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wood nymph, on T:14188 (2:57:02)
21:00 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:23243 (3:06:11)
21:03 <Loggers_VIII> man, I'm getting bones galore this run!
21:04 <Loggers_VIII> just got a double with nightsorrow and tinklebear
21:04 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame tinklebear
21:04 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/evilhack/dumplog/1695334078.evil.html
21:04 <krm26> i love reconstructing the history of a multibones
21:04 <Loggers_VIII> this is why public servers are the best way to play
21:05 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1890 (0:11:58)
21:13 <Loggers_VIII> @e?spectre
21:13 <Hecubus> spectre ( ) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 9 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -8 | Atk: 1d10 weapon physical | Align: -5 | flies, phases, breathless, unsolid, nopoly, stalker, passes-bars, vegan
21:13 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:23481 (3:14:52)
21:14 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) destroyed tinklebear's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:23494 (3:15:57)
21:15 <Loggers_VIII> yay, wand of undead turning
21:15 <Loggers_VIII> I feel a lot less worried about this dragon now
21:26 <krm26> poly time!
21:27 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Disruptor (Val Gia Fem Neu), 6085 points, T:4767, killed by a chameleon imitating an elder minotaur
21:27 <Loggers_VIII> wow, unlucky
21:28 <krm26> yeah that is tough to recover from
21:28 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:24586 (3:30:21)
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21:29 <Loggers_VIII> man I want dragonbane so bad
21:38 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Neu), 28145 points, T:15108, killed by an energy vortex
21:42 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a spellbook of cure sickness given to him by Hermes, on T:27779 (3:41:26)
21:42 <Loggers_VIII> dragonbane can wait I guess
21:43 <Umbire> I mean that's a damn good gift by book standards
21:43 <Umbire> no more zombie deaths
21:43 <Umbire> just don't cast it at an uninfected peaceful :^)
21:44 <Loggers_VIII> yeah I mean I literally do think dragonbane can wait lol
21:44 <Loggers_VIII> gonna go do the quest
21:45 <Loggers_VIII> get my dragon buddy to kill hippo maybe
21:57 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of dark elven bracers entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:8217 (1:45:41)
21:59 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Hippocrates, on T:28207 (3:51:13)
22:01 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/e460991bc203...07ff800007c6
22:01 <botifico> [EvilHack] k21971 07ff800 - Fix: don't allow magic keys in bones.
22:01 <tinklebear> :(
22:01 <K2> :)
22:02 <tinklebear> EVIL
22:02 <krm26> do magic keys poly like other normal magic tools?
22:02 <K2> should yeah. but you cant get one from polypiling
22:03 <krm26> right
22:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:28298 (3:54:34)
22:03 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) genocided shadow dragons, on T:28302 (3:55:00)
22:03 <krm26> i hope that was reverse genocide for taming
22:03 <Loggers_VIII> one of those fuckers drained my dragon. get outta here
22:04 <krm26> ahhhh
22:04 <krm26> no polished barding huh
22:04 <Loggers_VIII> nah
22:05 <tinklebear> dragon goes commando
22:05 <Loggers_VIII> plan is to wish for gray with the castle wand, and get dragonbane somehow so I can get ithilmar
22:06 <Loggers_VIII> but until then this guy's a little fragile
22:07 <Loggers_VIII> quest levels are no tele right?
22:07 <Loggers_VIII> the home ones?
22:07 <krm26> i cant find or poly up a hooa to squeeze grayswandir out of alas
22:09 <krm26> weird -- quaffing blessed gain ability at max human stats i get the you're already as smart...etc messages for 5 stats, not for strength
22:10 <krm26> and not in the order stats are displayed
22:10 <Loggers_VIII> strength's messages are kind of weird
22:16 <tinklebear> Loggers_VIII: quest levels aren't invariably notele, but the first level I think usually is
22:16 <tinklebear> s/usually/always
22:17 <Loggers_VIII> what the hell, there's an arch-lich in me quest
22:17 <Loggers_VIII> must've been a polytrap or something
22:20 <Loggers_VIII> k2 is it intentional that the slow status lasts for like... forever on pets?
22:20 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 grayswandir", on T:30053 (4:09:30)
22:20 <K2> slowed from what?
22:20 <Loggers_VIII> orange dragon passive, I think
22:21 <K2> pets arent singled out
22:21 <Loggers_VIII> I can wait around for a couple thousand turns here while I get my power back to see but my pet's slow doesn't seem to be wearing off
22:21 <K2> the duration is random, and i imagine it stacks if they attacked multiple times
22:21 <K2> zap wand of speed at it
22:22 <K2> or hit it with a potion of speed
22:22 <Loggers_VIII> how random
22:22 <Loggers_VIII> I did that already but I don't think this wand of speed's gonna have many charges left
22:22 <tinklebear> could someone have zapped it with a wand of slow monster?
22:22 <Loggers_VIII> no
22:22 <Loggers_VIII> I haven't fought anything intelligent in the time it took for it to get slowed again
22:23 <Loggers_VIII> and we've been fightin orange dragons, so it makes sense
22:23 <terrapin> slowing is indefinite for monsters
22:23 <K2> yeah
22:23 <K2> i just looked
22:23 <terrapin> it used to last exactly one turn
22:23 <K2> you gotta speed it back up
22:23 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) genocided orange dragons, on T:31009 (4:12:25)
22:23 <Loggers_VIII> I've had enough of that, I think
22:24 <K2> wow, geno orange dragons eh? pretty extreme. the ToODS will want a word
22:24 <K2> 'treatment of orange dragons society'
22:24 <Loggers_VIII> I always geno them as tortle anyway
22:24 <Loggers_VIII> but they were being especially annoying
22:24 <tinklebear> Orange Dragon Derangement Society
22:26 <Loggers_VIII> they're plenty adept at being deranged already they don't need a society
22:27 * tinklebear snarls
22:28 <Loggers_VIII> snarl yourself
22:30 <Loggers_VIII> I'm thinking of leaving my dragon on another level for a while while I farm for dbane, is there danger of it starving to death?
22:31 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Cen Fem Neu), 3767 points, T:4166, burned by molten lava
22:31 <Loggers_VIII> this time it's gotta be slashem soko
22:31 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame squisy
22:31 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: No last game for squisy.
22:31 <Loggers_VIII> !lastgame squishy
22:31 <Hecubus> Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/squishy/evilhack/dumplog/1695433094.evil.html
22:32 <tinklebear> afaik, pets go untame instead of starving to death, if they aren't on your level when it's time to die
22:32 <Loggers_VIII> cool
22:33 <Loggers_VIII> anyway, time to go die to the cyclops
22:33 <tinklebear> good luck
22:33 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:31708 (4:22:56)
22:34 <Loggers_VIII> nice, some dragonbreath helped me out
22:34 <tinklebear> that was fast
22:34 <Loggers_VIII> I am fast
22:34 <tinklebear> you are!
22:34 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31719 (4:23:41)
22:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1807 (0:10:32)
22:35 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:1843 (0:10:59)
22:37 <Loggers_VIII> I think I'm gonna call it here for tonight. wanna think about my strategy going forward a little more
22:37 <Loggers_VIII> still got some kinks to work out
22:37 <Loggers_VIII> later o/
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22:42 <Umbire> later
22:43 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2587 (0:18:30)
22:50 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a kobold mummy, on T:3868 (0:26:15)
22:54 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5281 points, T:4192, killed by a bolt of cold
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23:08 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered Sir Fluffington, her faithful kitten, on T:1077 (0:07:55)
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23:46 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a cloak of displacement entrusted to her by Odin, on T:4475 (0:45:29)
23:58 <Hecubus> [hdf-us] [evil] squishy (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6159 points, T:5357, zombified by a drow zombie