00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law), 11045 points, T:9592, poisoned by a gray fungus 00:07 what i get for playing while sleepy 00:07 gnite o/ 00:08 'night 00:08 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Dro Fem Cha), 470 points, T:1277, killed by a mountain dwarf 00:12 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Dro Fem Cha), 162 points, T:713, killed by a hobbit 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2428 points, T:3127, killed by a drow zombie 00:16 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Dro Fem Cha), 93 points, T:468, killed by a fox 00:20 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 00:21 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (giant mimics), on T:92 (0:05:04) 00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed mithril amulet of reflection", on T:39142 (17:16:13) 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of free action", on T:39159 (17:18:02) 00:30 so much for VoTD and vecna: 1 00:31 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 00:32 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Dro Fem Cha), 614 points, T:1496, killed by contaminated water 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Dro Fem Cha), 8 points, T:146, killed by a jackal 00:52 -!- bugsniper has joined #evilhack 01:06 is Expensive camera considered magical for polypile purposes? 01:16 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 01:24 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 01:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of wooden gauntlets entrusted to her by Odin, on T:24847 (8:21:20) 01:32 -!- bugsniper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:32 -!- bugsniper has joined #evilhack 01:41 i have a very deteriorated +4 mithril large splint mail.. can confused cursed destroy armor or confused enchant armor fix it? 01:55 eggandhull: confused enchant armor will fix it and repair it, confused destroy armor only fixes but the damaged status will be unfixed 01:55 err *unrepaired 01:57 Also - in evilhack/hackem you can press the inventory letter of an item and it will tell you if it's magical in it's lookup. If it doesn't say "Is inherently magical." it's not :) 01:58 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:139106 (1 day, 6:23:04) 02:02 hackemslashem: great tip thanks!!! 02:16 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:34 so for a valkyrie who already has speed intrinsic, do I go for a magic marker or a helmet of speed from the sokoban prize? 02:36 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:40 bugsniper do you already have MR or reflection? 02:41 yes, dragonbane is giving me reflection 02:43 ah nice 02:44 usually I go for the amulet anyway to see if maybe I can get MR too, but it's a personal choice 02:44 yeah, it is 02:44 and both the chance of a speed helm and a magic marker are nice too 02:45 I mean, maybe I can find the amulet of mr another way or find another awesome amulet, like magic breathing 02:46 well, if you're lucky enough to get MR now, at least you'll be safe from polytraps and poly wands 02:47 d - an uncursed +0 dragonhide dwarvish cloak (being worn) 02:47 P - a blessed +0 silver scale mail (being worn) 02:48 I don't think a poly trap will be the end of the world 02:48 if I break out of this armor 02:48 and besides, I have a wand of polymorph so I can get another form 02:49 The marker is awesome, you can try also write genocide to obtain gray scales maybe. 02:49 also, if I polymorph, does a ring of protection from shape changers keep my in my polymorph form 02:49 I may go marker, if got boh, farm lol :P 02:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:23604 (9:39:21) 02:50 alas, another bag of holding 02:51 :-( 02:51 well at least I got elbereth 02:52 also, I think it's time to polypile. Got any good ideas of what to try to get? 02:52 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Dro Fem Cha), 992 points, T:3020, killed by a leprechaun 02:52 the main danger of getting zapped by a poly wand is that you may be forced to drop all your items. and then they zap again. 02:53 and gone are your items 02:54 but it's my wand 02:54 oh, I see what you mean 02:54 yeah 02:54 I can fix that with my own wand 02:54 but first, I want to polymorph my pets and maybe a few objects 03:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:23653 (9:50:22) 03:02 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 03:06 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:26 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:57 "The drow zombie bites the elf zombie." hmmm why 04:46 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 05:24 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 05:36 Oh this is new, the goblin king's level has random traps now? Very nice. 05:59 [EvilHack] elunna opened issue #147: Found by fuzzer: The piranha attacks you without knowing your location? - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/issues/147 06:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1468 (1:09:55) 06:00 Hmm. A *magic* chest. 06:01 Someone has been busy. 06:01 !tell K2 I also found this while fuzzing https://pastebin.com/UpGxJXTF. I didn't have enough info for an issue yet but I do have an rr recording for more analysis 06:01 Will do, hackemslashem! 06:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1524 (1:11:59) 06:03 Pity I can't open it. 06:03 gotta get a magic key 06:03 I think you need a *magic* key :) 06:04 I did briefly consider kicking it. 06:04 With my magic feet. 06:04 Try happy feet 06:05 Magic feet are not happy feet. 06:12 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 06:17 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:42 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:44 Hmm, a second magic chest. 06:51 k2, evil compiles nicely on freebsd 06:53 cbus: That's fitting with their mascot. 06:57 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:58 -!- arahael has quit [Quit: "Gotta fly away!"] 07:12 I compiled with linux hints (had to change the path to grep and gdb /usr/bin/grep and /usr/local/bin/gdb) and used "make" (not gmake) 07:12 but yeah it worked 07:12 (same with hackem) 07:24 aha! 07:24 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e9d93c00af71bbd4b96dc66039507dbfd07aae11 07:25 I was wondering why I wasn't waking up nearly as many monsters as I'm used to 07:25 :) 07:25 nice work K2 07:39 \o/ 07:39 K2: Message from hackemslashem at 2023-09-19 06:01 EDT: I also found this while fuzzing https://pastebin.com/UpGxJXTF. I didn't have enough info for an issue yet but I do have an rr recording for more analysis 07:39 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 07:39 thanks hackemslashem 07:39 cbus that's ood news 07:39 *good 07:41 thought it could be of interest while I was messing around with a freebsd vm :) 07:43 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:13 !who 08:13 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 08:13 wow, no one? 08:14 !who 08:14 mobileuser: [hdf-eu] mobileuser [evil] :: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 08:14 :-P 08:14 that was quick 08:14 someone’s gotta be playing evilhack on hdf at all times or else the universe collapses or something 08:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:25 heh 08:35 weird, +0 mithril daggers that don't stack 08:36 maybe because I learned about one stack by using them? 08:36 but the game says they are fully identified 08:40 may have an obj prop 08:40 so maybe not fully id'ed 08:41 it's not offered as a choice when I select "I" 08:42 that may not take obj prop into account perhaps 08:42 which would be a bug 08:42 also, I read blessed magic detection at some point 08:43 I sort of suspect it has something to do with me learning about them when I was wielding them 08:44 hmm 08:46 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 08:51 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:52 mobileuser; items of an inherently fixed material like mithril can still be fixed and/or become unfixed seperate of their material, which causes them not to stack 08:52 it doesn't tell you in ID for some reason I think 08:52 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:52 I think I saw terrapin mentioning that... but in the context of forging 08:53 this comes up every so often, someone wondering why their mithril shit isn't stacking 08:53 it should really tell you in ID 08:54 oh right 08:54 inherently fixed items can still get the 'fixed' flag 08:55 i wonder if that happens in vanilla nethack too 08:55 probably 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:27791 (5:06:32) 09:00 doh 09:00 did that on purpose it was a random one I found 09:00 right 09:00 LIES 09:01 you saw through my trickery :( 09:02 mobileuser told me sssshh 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2751 (0:52:17) 09:03 I knew it... blood will be spilt today! 09:03 \o/ 09:05 by Crom! 09:06 by the power of Dishwasher! 09:07 https://media.tenor.com/01cZmptrf_kAAAAC/he-man-laugh.gif 09:08 lol 09:13 \o/ 09:14 heh 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:22293 (5:35:49) 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22294 (5:35:52) 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law), 698 points, T:2166, diseased by an orc zombie 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed his quest without incident, on T:22521 (5:38:14) 09:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Bau (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 862 points, T:2081, killed by the Goblin King 09:34 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 10:18 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 10:20 mobileuser the zombie thing was because of the elf/drow grudge. probably should happen with undead versions, though 10:21 *shouldn't 10:21 yeah 10:21 but its fun to watch 10:24 :-) 10:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:7244 (1:53:07) 10:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:42960 (1 day, 1:42:52) 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law), 248 points, T:1244, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7821 (2:01:35) 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Bau (Rog Hum Mal Neu), 759 points, T:2366, killed by a giant mosquito 10:43 @e?boojum 10:43 boojum (J) | Lvl: 18 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire disintegrate shock | Confer: fire disintegrate shock | MR: 90 | Gen: special | AC: 0 | Atk: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw physical, 3d10 claw physical, 0d0 claw teleport | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, seeinvis, nopoly, infravis 10:44 i wonder if there would be a similar impossible to hackemslashem's issue if a shambling horror hit you with a teleport attack but still had more attacks left? 10:46 Anythings possible with shamblers :P 10:51 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:2111 (0:13:09) 10:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Paladin of Lugh, on T:43289 (1 day, 2:02:08) 10:54 fireball spells worked this time 10:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:43291 (1 day, 2:04:39) 11:01 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:2307 (0:22:40) 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2863 (0:29:49) 11:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) completed her quest without incident, on T:43583 (1 day, 2:16:20) 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Mal Law) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:139524 (1 day, 7:04:16) 11:13 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 10636 points, T:9115, killed by a gargoyle 11:18 nice bones. Magic whistle, BoH, +5 mithril katana 11:28 :/ 11:47 How do shambling horrors work in bones? 11:49 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6261 (3:38:53) 11:49 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:51 -!- bugsniper has joined #evilhack 11:53 hmm. centaur polyforms, horned devils, and probably others will still attack black dragons 11:54 i don't think this is wrong necessarily but it is confusing given the precedent with polyform mind flayers 11:55 also a tortle/centaur monk will never kick a black dragon regardless of current polyform 11:57 just make any attack that would stone/disintegrate you be skipped 11:59 that seems sorta un-evilhack-y 12:00 not sorta. extremely/very 12:01 that's not even generally nethack-y 12:01 leave that for Nethack4 variants, or whatever one it was that made floating eyes invulnerable 12:01 lol 12:01 "You awkwardly walk past the floating eye..." 12:02 you can't bring yourself to look it in the eye 12:03 Noisytoot, do you understand why it's only centaurs and tortles that have martial arts autokick suppressed against disintegrators? 12:05 i'm more than happy to explain why if the reasoning eludes you 12:05 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 12:05 personally, i feel like all the Race_if's for suppressing attacks should have the form maybe_polyd(FALSE, Race_if(foo)) 12:06 terrapin yeah there are some spots where that would make sense i think 12:06 if you're poly'd that's a conscious choice, just like not wearing boots as a human monk 12:11 nethack4 actually doesn't have that for cockatrices (but dnethack does) 12:12 i think it's a good feature for the variants that are more about QoL, balance, and being more 'game-like' 12:13 by which i mean they want to focus on the strategey and not let silly mistakes get in the way 12:14 but i think a lot of variants, evilhack included, kinda revolve around the silly mistakes. a big part of the game is developing habits to lessen the probability of making mistakes 12:15 yup. player centaurs/tortles get a free pass on the autokick because they cant wear boots, its out of their control. things that the player can control, its on them to control it 12:18 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 12:21 noisytoot: bones shambling horrors should have your current game's horror stats 12:38 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:7463 (4:35:10) 12:47 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 12:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a large shield entrusted to her by Odin, on T:30346 (10:25:25) 12:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:20 tortles and centaur monks shouldn’t skip kick attacks on monsters dangerous to touch 13:20 devil called, he needed an advocate 13:22 actually, now that i think about it maybe *all* monks should skip kick attacks on disintegrators 13:23 there are no disintegration-resistant boots, so effectively you cannot hit disintegrators in melee as a monk (unless you put on body armor i guess) 13:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:26 no on second thought my idea is silly 13:27 on third thought it's maybe reasonable? non-tortle/centaur monks are the only characters who can't melee black dragons with dragonbane 13:27 that seems a little odd, given that they're supposed to be great with unarmed combat 13:28 move to hit, F to hit n kick :-) monks will LOVE that 13:29 OR, monks get one free optional kick per turn a la stethoscope use :-) 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:30569 (10:53:10) 13:32 my line of thinking is that automatic bonus attacks when not polymorphed should be suppresed when disadvantageous to the player, since you'd assume they know how to control their own bodies. 13:32 wow, now my deity is dropping me items. Wresting Mojo must have started it.... 13:32 in illithid/demon cases, this just means never attack harmful things 13:32 in monk cases, you can have boots, which protect you from stoning, but you still wouldn't want to kick an antimatter vortex 13:34 so i feel like it should be 2-tiered---tortles and centaurs never kick 'trices, but all monks never kick disintegrators 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a glass scimitar entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:40189 (14:02:06) 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Dro Fem Cha), 196 points, T:680, killed by handling a heavy iron ball that was made of iron 13:44 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 13:45 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:50 terrapin: I think that's how the vampire race works for biting 13:50 You get a pass for attacking cockatrices and such 13:51 OR the player uses their 200iq to figure out another way to attack that black dragon and not melee :) 13:53 but yeah i get it, the autokick 13:54 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 13:55 ah he's gone 13:56 !tell terrapin or maybe make it 'but all monks never kick disintegrators *if not wearing boots*' 13:56 terrapin shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 13:57 ooh my tourist has edible rings of increase damage 13:57 -!- tinklebear has joined #evilhack 14:01 nice 14:01 heya tinklebear 14:02 k2: can you wish for a magic key? (you should be able to). can you wish for a magic chest? (that would be amazing :-) 14:02 good questions 14:02 in wizmode you can wish for a magic chest 14:03 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:03 i'm just saying, for ocd bozos like me who will want one next to an aligned altar... 14:03 lemme test magic key, you prob can 14:04 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Mon Dro Fem Cha), 850 points, T:2409, killed by the Goblin King 14:05 no you cannot wish for a magic chest in a normal game. as it should be 14:05 you can wish up magic keys though. if you feel like you'd need to burn a wish for one, i dont see any harm in that 14:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Dro Fem Cha), 154 points, T:307, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Dro Fem Cha), 84 points, T:236, killed by a jackal 14:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:41566 (14:37:13) 14:17 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:23 rat king treasure room: box, safe, crystal chest. box: stethoscope, spellbook of knock :-) 14:23 lol wow 14:23 jackpot 14:23 ikr 14:23 should also be a magic key 14:24 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:24 yeah, but already had one so didn't brag about it 14:25 i'm imagining getting all 3 magic keys, locking 2 safely in the magic chest, and then accidentally dropping the remaining key in lava 14:25 lol 14:25 krm26 style 14:26 could still use wand of opening or knock spell 14:26 or MKoT if you had it 14:26 oh man i forgot normal spells work on it... LAME 14:27 gnome mages need knock! 14:27 hah 14:27 new genocide target 14:28 i kinda feel like the one ring should have a chance at recursing itself on use, just because 14:28 AND that in addition to detecting wraiths it should aggravate wraiths 14:29 it does aggravate them 14:29 its like a bane obj 14:29 nice! 14:30 so bracers are always drow and so are always frangible in light? 14:31 si 14:31 i wasnt ready to make non drow bracers yet 14:31 they need to be special 14:31 cant be wished for in mithril or copper? 14:33 no, drow weapons and armor spawn with their base material only. meaning you cant wish outside of that either (except wizmode) 14:33 there are non drow armor/weapons though can be have adamantine or silk material 14:34 YANI: allow invocation items to be stored in a magic chest. 14:34 and those arent subject to being fragile in light 14:34 mobileuser heh 14:36 that confuses me 14:36 shouldn't the MATERIAL be what is fragile in light? 14:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:42292 (15:01:33) 14:41 its the drowcraft and the methods they use to make their weapons/armor that makes it fragile 14:41 hmm 14:42 and its partially why they get the awesome to hit bonuses with them (weapons) 14:42 it just seems rude that only drow can use bracers without them autopoofing 14:42 oh well 14:42 that's not true 14:42 so much for my tourist dual wielding with them 14:42 not remotely lmao 14:42 anyone can deck out in shadow dragon scales. or have a cursed magic lamp 14:42 i suppose that is true. anyone with the eye of vecna 14:43 there's always a solution, question is if you're willing to find it and utilize it 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:9330 (1:35:08) 14:45 awwww yeah 14:46 +4 14:48 why do the gods stop at +5? are they cowards? 14:50 it's because we're not worthy for +6 14:50 you should get a chance of a higher bonus and then have it evaporate as it appears :-) 14:50 the gift was too good for this world 14:51 lol 14:52 that is truly evil 14:52 as in 'I want to throat-punch whoever coded this' evil 14:54 do poisoned weapons have a penalty for neutral players? i forget 14:54 no, just lawful 14:55 same for tainted 14:55 I gotta run, see you all soon 14:55 later 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a knife entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:43409 (15:22:35) 15:10 remember that time I was playing nethack and I died? 15:11 me either. I should play some more :) 15:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:44217 (1 day, 2:40:53) 15:18 i haven't seen a bouquet bones in forever! 15:28 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:10700 (7:18:10) 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:26160 (7:33:02) 15:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Medusa, on T:44572 (1 day, 2:51:38) 15:31 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:36 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:36 "The silver dragon's novel named The Adventurer's Journal catches fire and burns!" oh no :-P 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:45464 (16:00:48) 15:37 at least he was able to write a book before he died 15:40 heh 15:46 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 15:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:45009 (1 day, 3:06:10) 15:49 so i was thinking about krm26's monk kicking suggestions 15:49 terrapin: Message from K2 at 2023-09-19 13:56 EDT: or maybe make it 'but all monks never kick disintegrators *if not wearing boots*' 15:49 like the use 'F' to use the kick attack 15:49 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:50 which would suck because you'd be pressing 'F' almost all the time 15:50 both of my suggestions were meant as jokes that would drive monks insane 15:50 F to NOT kick would be slightly less jokey 15:50 the more I think about it the more I think they shouldnt have protection at all 15:50 but what if autofighting *suppressed* automatic extra attacks from unpolymorphed illithids/demons monks? 15:51 and then like Loggers said there were no safeguards 15:51 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 15:51 dang kick-out / time-out feature.... 15:51 the idea that actually makes sense is for anything with an attack like that to not attack a dangerous monster, but k2 would never go for that 15:51 *not attack a dangerous monster with it 15:52 If we’re going to accept that everyone is idiots who will facefuck a cockatrice as a mind flayer then idk why tortle/centaur monks should be exempt 15:53 because it’s not like they have to melee these monsyers 15:53 but it is frustrating and sort of immersion-breaking that they can't just decide not to kick something 15:53 where are the mittens for illithids to wear on their face tentacles! 15:54 however, if 'F' allowed suppressed kicks/tentacles/stings, it would be the player's choice and responsibility 15:54 strike the allowed 15:54 yeah I agree 15:55 also it would automatically solve the bug i just discovered where illithid convicts eat people's brains when they steal from them, so that's nice 15:58 could optionally have it be a numeric prefix thing, like n1F. so you can still force-fight stuff and get full damage 15:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:58 stealing a little INT on the side 16:00 wtf is a level 19 vampire mage doing crawling out of the first level of my quest when i'm level 11 16:00 beating the hell out of you, presumably :p 16:00 no kidding jebus 16:00 i'm royally forked 16:01 you playing pri? 16:01 tourist 16:01 ahhh the graveyard 16:02 i foolishly stumbled back through the portal so now he's in the main dungeon on top of my only coaligned altar 16:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:02 so really horked 16:02 cant even grind out an artifact silver saber now 16:02 ssh_dispatch_run_fatal: Connection to 2600:1f18:607c:4fee:2b5c:38d:c647:d217 port 22: Connection timed out 16:03 Hmmm, not sure why I can't connect. I guess a 3 fingered salute is needed. 16:03 you’ll pay in blood 16:03 try ipv4 16:04 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:05 aw f he liched me 16:05 :c 16:06 liches and minotaurs come ON i'm a shitty tourist 16:06 what’re you using for a weapon 16:06 a scimitar from the rat king 16:06 although unskilled now, apparently something ate my skill 16:07 just leave 16:07 YOU leave! this is my altar! 16:07 sitting on all my damn daggers too 16:08 anyway if i leave there is pretty much no way for me to prep to come back, just an empty altarless dungeon above me 16:08 go loot quest 16:08 ? 16:09 can at least get weapon training and healing potions from the dead quest monsyrrs 16:09 oh, "loot quest" verb, not "loot" the "quest" 16:09 *monsters 16:09 lol 16:09 cuz the vampire mage is blocking my quest quite successfully 16:09 what the hell happened to my skills, there was no brain-suck 16:09 surely you can slip past into the portal 16:10 oh probably incidental level loss, no biggie 16:10 it'll be scared if you can get to the altar 16:10 no sir. that room is a big red x now 16:10 "incidental" lmao 16:10 rest of the summons won't 16:10 yeah the altar is no protection at all 16:10 dammit 16:10 i coulda been clever and tried to ditch it in the quest but i forked it 16:11 any chance of just hitting it until it dies 16:11 nope, it has well over 100 hp 16:11 level 19 16:12 i do about 1 damage a round to it on average 16:12 gotta get 100 garlic and paint it into a corner and abandon it there 16:12 oh jesus 16:12 while surviving its minotaur and demilich storm 16:12 run down to the castle for wow? 16:12 prolly wishful thinking 16:12 would have to dig past 16:12 heehee wishful thinking 16:13 but not impossible, i hope it doesn't come to that 16:13 If you have an instrument the castle’s a gimme 16:13 i might be able to fire horn it to death, think i have a cursed infidel fire horn and scroll of charging in the magic chest 16:13 unless you get stupid water castlw 16:14 ah yeah, fire horns are already big damage and V is vulnerable 16:14 i was giving it a shot with a wand of fire when it lich/minotaured me 16:14 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest7403 16:14 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:14 fire horns can’t backfire, either 16:14 cursed horns can break tho cant they 16:14 -!- Guest7403 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:15 ...no? 16:15 never seen that 16:15 not sure 16:15 i think they do now 16:15 -!- log has joined #evilhack 16:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:15 WHAT my telepathy is gone 16:15 -!- log is now known as Loggers_VIII 16:16 how the heck did that happen 16:16 gremlin? 16:16 seems unlikely 16:16 it has just been the vampire mage 16:16 uhhhh did you murder someone? 16:16 nope 16:17 guess the game just took it 16:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 16:20 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:30 phew, managed to the superbag without killing the ice queen 16:30 but that was close 16:30 * to get 16:31 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 16:33 still no alignment abuse (Moloch doesn't like it if you free the ice queen from the curse) 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:40068 (17:56:45) 17:14 wand of wishing (0:1) 17:14 oh well :-) 17:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:16 !who 17:16 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil] terrapin [evil] Grouchy [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 17:18