00:02 !whereis eggandhull 00:02 terrapin: [hdf-us] eggandhull [evil]: (Sam Gia Mal Law) T:106439 Sokoban level: 8 00:02 yeah, no other realistic options for lawfuls 00:02 there is dramborleg but not really useful for giants 00:03 sounds like a good wish to go for eh? 00:03 as someone who has tried to rely on dramborleg for MR, don't 00:03 it got bullwhipped from me in purgatory and i never got it back 00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed mithril amulet of magic resistance", on T:106456 (17:08:16) 00:04 hey K2, you still around? 00:04 sounds funn terrapin 00:06 I thought that death magic, free action, and poly control would be a decent replacement for MR, but i forgot about destroy armor and strength drain and so on 00:27 Hmm, my shambling horror has displacement, but in stats it is not showing 'Is ... displaced'. 00:28 could you bring up the stats real quick? 00:30 did 00:30 cool, thanks 00:30 yikes, good luck! 00:31 It has 200HP last time I encountered it :( 00:38 @e?vampire mage 00:38 vampire mage (V) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 14 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -4 | Atk: 2d8 claw level drain, 1d8 bite level drain, 2d6 cast spell | Align: -9 | genocidable, flies, breathless, regen, poisonous, stalker, silverhate, infravis 00:38 That's the peril of weapon MR 00:38 same with Sceptre of Might 00:39 @e?Ixoth 00:39 Ixoth (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison petrification | Confer: fire | MR: 20 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 8d6 breath fire, 4d8 bite physical, 0d0 cast spell, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw amulet steal | Align: -14 | carnivore, flies, thick hide, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 00:40 There might be something wrong with stats reporting. 'cast spell', is being reported as 'spellcast random breath' 00:41 yeah, the new attack for dichotomy wasn't accounted for in the lookup 00:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Pri Gia Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4113 00:52 woo, 5x11 tool shop 00:52 :) lucky. got any magic lamps? 00:53 looks like i got one, yeah :) 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Pri Gia Fem Law), 2592 points, T:5144, killed by a killer bee 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Rat King, on T:109931 (17:58:43) 00:55 throne gave a geno 00:55 already geno'd gelatinous cube 00:55 what else is popular? 00:56 shocking sphere 00:56 energy vortex 00:56 antimatter vortex 00:56 note: antimatter vortices cannot attack giants 00:56 for other races, great genocide 00:57 black dragon not a good idea? may want to eat it to get disint resist? 00:57 honorary mention: baby black dragons, black dragons, green slimes, 'trices 00:57 hmm looks like my gloves will protect rings against shocking e or energy vortex 00:58 non metallic gloves only. If you get purity or metal GoP it will still blast rings. 01:00 @e?energy vortex 01:00 energy vortex (v) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 20 | Res: sleep disintegrate shock poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 1d6 engulf shock, 2d6 engulf magic drain, 0d4 passive shock | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, unsolid, passes-bars, vegan 01:01 @e?shocking sphere 01:01 shocking sphere (e) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 13 | Res: shock | Confer: shock | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Atk: 4d6 explode shock, 4d6 suicide explode shock | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, infravis 01:01 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Mal Law) genocided energy vortices, on T:109964 (18:05:50) 01:01 thx 01:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:54013 (1 day, 1:26:16) 01:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:54031 (1 day, 1:26:28) 01:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Hidden Dungeon, on T:54101 (1 day, 1:29:13) 01:05 Damn, 10d10 bite physical 01:06 ooh, is this the first tal'gath fight? 01:07 Not gonna fight him yet. I have zero disintegration resistance, I'll come back with better weapons and 100% disintegration resist. There are a couple of black dragons I avoided. 01:09 Hmm, can't do pounding without looking at him. Jousting means mount will be disintegrated. With 122HP he will eat me in 2 attacks. Atleast he doesn't have sleep resist. 01:11 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 01:18 hmm encounted a ac -34 illithid wizard..threw tons of boulders and all missed. its' 131 full hp and yanked my tsurugi 01:18 illithid = don't melee (like mind flayers) right? 01:19 They have a single brain-sucking attack 01:20 @e?illithid 01:20 illithid (h) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: special | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical, 2d1 tentacle drain int | Align: -8 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 01:20 Should be roughly the same for all illithid racial mons 01:22 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:22 since i cant boulder kill it or melee, use a death wand? 01:23 wizard NPCs have MR cloaks 01:23 lots of cancellation might bring it's AC down? 01:23 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 01:24 great idea! i need to start using cancel wands 01:26 down to AC -24..HP 117(131) 01:28 hmm i may just leave it be, blocked in soko, 6 cancel charges gone 01:29 hmm that's not a good idea it has my tsurugi 01:29 any help? 01:34 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 01:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Val Dwa Fem Law), 435 points, T:1034, poisoned by a killer bee 01:38 ^ heh 01:52 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:53 boulder fort and tons of shuriken.. 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22532 (7:47:27) 01:58 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Val Hum Fem Neu), 490 points, T:821, killed by the Goblin King 01:58 turns out zapping cancel at it canceled my +6 to +0 :D 01:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2375 (0:24:52) 02:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2499 (0:26:59) 02:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Val Hum Fem Neu), 857 points, T:2226, killed by a piranha 02:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 02:28 eggandhull: you can forge that +5 long sword to a +5 tsurugi, does a lot more damage 02:29 bonus if you can mix mithril into it 02:30 hmm 02:30 never did that 02:31 expert 2wep, with expert 2-handed sword, you will be unstoppable 02:31 i have a a blessed platinum two-handed sword named gift 02:31 maybe i should've used it to see its enchantment 02:31 forge +5 long sword with another long sword into a katana, and then forge with that 2handed sword. 02:31 encumberance is a problem 02:32 tsurugi will be just 60 I think 02:32 2handed sword is 150 02:32 i c! 02:33 i'm feeling the disavantage of xp19 -- lots more tough npc 02:36 Thats unavoidable, but if you find a mithril helmet or some mithril armor, you could reduce large split mail problems too, forge mithril large splint mail :) 02:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 9964 points, T:7063, poisoned by a soldier 02:47 Wow...  my AC was -14 and yet I was poisoned by a soldier's weapon and I also had a luckstone on me.  Go figure. 02:49 :( bad rng 02:52 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:53 Found a bug: 02:53 > This cookie has a scrap of paper inside. It reads: 02:53 > Drinking potions of booze may land you in jail if you are under 21. 02:53 I'm playing on the .au server. ;) 02:55 LOL 02:56 It just says 'may'. You could still get into a bar fight :) 02:59 k3ut0i: That's a bit more difficult since "glassing" is not only illegal, but many bars do not actually use glass in their glasses anymore for that reason ;) 03:00 But sure. 03:01 :) 03:14 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3059 (1:46:52) 03:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3469 (1:48:04) 03:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4573 (2:03:02) 03:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:55354 (1 day, 3:35:39) 03:40 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:19 whoah, K2's ghost 05:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) destroyed k2's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:25343 (11:11:01) 06:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:26310 (11:46:10) 06:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 18911 points, T:9342, killed by a leocrotta 06:16 That was one damned tough leocrotta. 06:16 Two zaps of lightning, and one zap of fire. 06:25 unlucky 06:26 Yes - and something else was riding it. So the leocrotta wouldn't have been hit at all, those three wand zaps were *after* the rider got killed, though. 06:28 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:26767 (12:14:20) 06:42 \o/ 06:42 thanks Moloch 06:43 I'm glad it's still a short sword :-) 06:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:26996 (12:22:31) 06:50 thx throne 07:46 hmmm does the one ring give super stealth or something 07:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:57045 (1 day, 5:20:23) 07:47 invisibility + stealth + searching 07:47 yeah, but normally monsters wake up from the sound of fighting in a throne room 07:47 also warns of wraith 07:47 I noticed :-) 07:48 the strange thing is throne room monsters not waking up 07:48 Yeah, I noticed that too.. 07:48 they are taking too long to wakeup 07:48 Ah, finally awake 07:51 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:126784 (2 days, 3:13:10) 08:48 scales??? 08:49 of course not 08:49 i did grab all her dragons as pets 08:55 that's something... 09:04 yay, i guess i lost my staff of aesculapius somewhere 09:04 sigh 09:06 i guess i'll need the ttryrec to see what happened 09:09 two levels in gehennom i've been beating things with my gauntlets :-P 09:12 :) You haven't noticed that no one is getting drained? 09:13 clearly not paying much attention, besides, my dragons engulfing most stuff 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4519 (1:14:52) 09:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:4609 (1:16:32) 09:18 a lot of monsters are drain resistant anyway in gehennom 09:23 Does hammer of the gods itself need to kill for zombies to disappear? 09:23 You still want it for the regen + invoke 09:27 not sure i've ever invoked the staff 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:128634 (2 days, 3:59:41) 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed potions of gain level", on T:128649 (2 days, 4:01:02) 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +0 mithril dwarvish spear of venom on an altar, on T:5272 (1:29:46) 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased gjallar", on T:128717 (2 days, 4:06:45) 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Norn, on T:128720 (2 days, 4:07:00) 09:38 heh unfinished business 09:39 i have yet to touch my wand of wishing (this is a smoky object detection game :-) 09:39 noice! 09:40 in the process of greasing the world now 09:40 it looks like potions can be quivered, hopefully that helps my confused uncursed remove curse gambit... 09:40 I think you can quiver anything stackable -- candles, jellies, eyes of vecna 09:41 heh 09:44 oh crap i never crowned myself 09:45 gonna be tough with this swarm of dragons eating everything 09:47 damn, the quivered potions did nothing 09:47 no holy water yet 09:47 ooh, worn stuff 09:48 dammit, hermes, you have already given me the gift of speed you dope 09:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 10429 points, T:6025, killed by a giant watchman, while praying 09:51 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 09:52 Hi, there was a bit of an odd message after dying - it said that the giant watchman (in the Mall) started to float in the air after he killed me and it cycled through the endgame questions (do you want to see this, that, etc.) before getting back to the main menu. 09:53 !lastgame dbanethacker 09:53 dbanethacker: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1694933788.evil.html 09:54 Doesn't look like the message was recorded in the .html file - maybe it's there in the replay. 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had a staff of war bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:129441 (2 days, 4:29:06) 09:57 Not in the reply either 10:05 why wont you crown me dammit 10:06 it took me a long time as well 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1711 (0:11:04) 10:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed platinum yendorian express card", on T:130049 (2 days, 4:39:22) 10:07 GREASE 10:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) had an alchemy smock entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:60536 (1 day, 7:36:51) 10:08 omigod that is the first 2nd artifact wish i've successfully gotten in 2023 10:08 of course i was just trying to waste the wish 10:09 that finishes off all my wishes except for the 0:3 wand 10:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) had a pair of bone kicking boots entrusted to her by Lugh, on T:60880 (1 day, 7:41:57) 10:13 fixing the damage lookup 10:13 forgot to add AD_FUSE descriptor in pager.c 10:15 well at least every time hermes doesnt crown me he gives me a nice blank spellbook 10:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:31538 (14:46:42) 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2806 (0:20:03) 10:15 krm26 you're still on 0.8.2 yeah? 10:15 yeah, sorry, not a bug :-) 10:16 :P 10:16 i was like 'didnt I address that already?' 10:17 trying to finish this game but hermes wont crown me 10:17 that's the only thing standing between me and accidental death to twin invulnerable rodneys while fighting lucifer 10:19 * K2 slaps botifico around a bit with a large trout 10:21 dammit botifico 10:21 I pushed a commit 10:21 arggh that is 20 times at max everything that i've failed to crown 10:21 what are the frigging odds 10:21 currently 0 10:23 "It is locked.  picking lock with object 25? Program in disorder!  (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.)" 10:23 (magic chest) 10:23 i guess crowning doesnt give me anything important anyway so screw it 10:23 ^^ K2 10:23 yeah 10:24 what are you trying to pick it with? 10:24 trying to force it with a knife? 10:24 mobileuser ^ 10:24 ah I'm wielding a knife 10:25 lol 10:25 my magic key was in my bag 10:25 looks like we may have forgotten to account for forcing open the magic chest with weapons/tools 10:25 I started to loot and I didn't have a key in inventory 10:26 well i fixed the damage lookup, botifico hasnt announced that commit yet 10:26 mobileuser ok, i'll attempt to recreate that 10:26 also, there's a data leak somewhere 10:26 weird display messages after certain events 10:26 terrapin saw one, i read in backscroll k3ut0i had one as well 10:27 I like the magic chest placement so far :-) 10:27 i suspect formatting error in quest.txt 10:27 mobileuser \o/ 10:30 what are the stupid odds of crowning when pious? it has to be substantially more than 5%! 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5033 (0:35:05) 10:31 Aside from a knock spell or a / of opening, not sure how to open the magical chests (sob) 10:31 magic key or PYEC or MKoT 10:32 even easier to open than a crystal chest! 10:32 They open with magic, so use something magical 10:32 this reminds me, i need to add some rumors about magic keys and chests 10:33 and the hidden dungeon 10:35 mobileuser were you wielding secespita or just some random knife? 10:35 secespita 10:35 Hmm, haven't found the hidden dungeon yet.  Didn't know about magical keys either. 10:36 there's also nothing when you look up magical key as an item when you /? magical key 10:36 magic key 10:36 "magic key" 10:37 see https://redd.it/16izu25 10:37 d'oh! 10:37 the entries in dat/quest.txt look fine 10:37 i wonder if i exceed a max limit for text entries 10:39 terrapin when you asked if i was around last night, I was but i fell asleep on the couch hah 10:39 k2: silliest curent ai behavior -- @players reading a scroll of teleportation or zapping themselves to escape, then closing on you until they are in "crap escape again" range and repeating 10:40 that mirrors my playstyle eerily well 10:40 K2 heh 10:42 i'm always surprised by how tiring concerts are 10:42 it was really good 10:42 chilly though, i didnt bring enough layers 10:42 pink enough? 10:42 yeah 10:43 their rendition of 'shine on you crazy diamond' was spot on 10:43 cool! 10:43 felt like i was watching/hearing pink floyd on their 'delicate sound of thunder' tour 10:47 i'm not seeing anything wrong with the com-Pager entries I added 10:47 com_pager 10:48 wtf are we getting text bleed over? 10:48 YES holy water 10:50 yay 10:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Tal'Gath, on T:62476 (1 day, 8:19:02) 10:50 there it is 10:50 first kill 10:50 with lance its prob easy 10:50 is that the beholderything? 10:50 yes 10:51 yeah lance made it easy. It was skittish. Sewage made it a bit troublesome, chasing it all over. 10:51 351HP 10:52 its a brute 10:52 (beholders dont have gender, hence 'its') 10:52 it's 10:53 i dont wanna do yard work today dammit 10:53 but I have to :/ 10:53 so i reliably get the program in disorder when trying to loot a locked magic chest while carrying only artifacts 10:53 can't figure out how to get it while carrying other stuff though 10:53 huh 10:53 well progress at least 10:54 i'm banging my head trying to figure out leaked text 10:54 are celestial dragons, shimmering dragons lawful aligned? 10:54 like, looking at my code i can say, "yeah, it seems plausible that it'd cause a bug with artifacts." still can't figure out why though 10:54 @e?shimmering dragon 10:54 shimmering dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 breath stun, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest | Align: 4 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 10:54 @e?celestial dragon 10:54 celestial dragon (D) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 34 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep shock acid petrification | Confer: sleep shock | MR: 50 | Gen: special | AC: -6 | Atk: 16d4 scream loud, 4d8 bite physical, 4d6 claw physical, 4d6 claw physical, 4d4 cast clerical | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, regen, seeinvis, nopoly 10:55 only shimmering, it seems 10:55 damn, celestial would make an awesome ride for knight 10:56 @e?silver dragon 10:56 silver dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: cold | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 breath cold, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest | Align: 4 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 10:56 ah right, celestial dragons are also neutral 10:56 sea/celestial neutral 10:56 shimmering/silver/gold lawful 10:57 gray also 10:57 (are lawful) 10:57 k3ut0i: you'd need to permaconvert to neutral 10:57 oooh gray 10:57 I jousted a doppelganger into lava, he died and reverted back. But there is no message showing his next death. He is not visible, but somehow put on armor... 10:59 Oh, he might have come alive somewhere else... 10:59 Why are gray lawful when they are not metallic? 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:132023 (2 days, 5:32:07) 11:00 well they're not a color 11:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (beholders), on T:62575 (1 day, 8:29:06) 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:132032 (2 days, 5:32:38) 11:02 ...gray is a color 11:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:132217 (2 days, 5:35:54) 11:03 in ad&d gray dragons are evil. in vanilla nethack they are lawful 11:04 probably because there are many more chaotic dragons vs lawful ones 11:06 however, the alignments of the dragons in vanilla nethack is all messed up. several chromatic type dragons have lawful alignment 11:07 they should have added more metallic dragons, like copper/brass/bronze 11:09 see https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e908c87746cde91c124437580b3022e6c480179e 11:10 alright i gotta go adult, back in a lil bit 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the elven high priest of Moloch, on T:132431 (2 days, 5:44:05) 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:132431 (2 days, 5:44:05) 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Lucifer, on T:132575 (2 days, 5:53:15) 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered Purgatory, on T:132604 (2 days, 5:55:29) 11:25 Man dragons swallowing the wizard is awesome. I should try getting a few dragons pets... 11:25 yeah, to really appreciate engulfing you need to feed a dragon on wraiths up to level 49 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3526 (0:25:23) 11:27 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/02af3cb190bf...f30987e013e3 11:27 [EvilHack] k21971 78e45af - Fix: AD_FUSE not accounted for in pokedex monster lookup. 11:27 [EvilHack] k21971 f30987e - Merge branch 'master' of github.com:k21971/EvilHack 11:29 wow, hour lag on botifico 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3968 (0:29:49) 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Saint Michael, on T:132798 (2 days, 6:06:18) 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful fire elemental, on T:132821 (2 days, 6:07:43) 11:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2963 points, T:2286, killed by a bugbear 11:37 rodney on the final level of purgatory is the worst 11:37 goes and sits on the wrong stairs 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful fire elemental, on T:132887 (2 days, 6:11:15) 11:40 impossible for me to kill him without going all the way back to the stairs' 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:132980 (2 days, 6:15:23) 11:44 well the amulet is gone and doesn't show up on magic detection so yay 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:5874 (0:43:01) 11:46 k3ut0i: question about what you said on forging mithril large splint mail 11:46 how does a mithril helmet come into play? wiki only says plate + plate = large splint 11:47 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin opened pull request #145: Magic chest fixes (and crowning?) - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/145 11:48 well this game is f'd beyond repair 11:49 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6363 (0:47:50) 11:49 You forge one of the plates using a mithril component 11:51 i guess i just go to some random level and leave a nice bones for someone 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7112 (0:50:06) 11:52 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4098 points, T:3920, diseased by a hobbit zombie, while helpless 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 4254 points, T:7645, killed by a jaguar 11:56 krm26 if it dropped, on Rodney's death, would it teleport? 11:56 if so, it probably dropped to the third demon lair 11:57 fffffff 11:58 you mean to the mid level of purgatory? 11:58 Umbire: right 11:58 it is definitely not here 11:58 jkkljklgjfd 11:58 that is horrible 11:58 if it fell into open air, it would end up on the level where the third demon lord was 11:59 idk if the amulet only teleports when *you* drop it though 11:59 okay yes, it does 12:00 on the bright side, you can levelport 12:00 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 12:02 oh. by "yes, it does" i meant "yes, it teleports when anyone drops it". so it almost certainly ended up in open air and fell to the third demon lord lair 12:07 eggandhull: need to chain recipies, helmet + ring mail -> scale mail -> splint mail -> plate mail 12:09 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Forge_(dungeon_feature) dumb question - this table says first and second items. if i forge in reverse order, the #forge won't succeed, right? 12:09 It will, make the material you want to be the second item 12:10 steel + mithril -> mithril. mithril + steel -> steel 12:10 oh i see 12:10 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:11 looks like i may need to start with 2 arrows 2 darts knife 12:12 :) have fun 12:14 why do you keep saying the third demon lord lair, terrapin? the final level of purgatory isn't above the middle level of puragatory? 12:15 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:15 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/f30987e013e30645b01bd855fb4d21f8260c850a/src/do.c#L339 12:16 SUNNUVA 12:22 Been the case for indestructible items for a while, this actually came up with SoA I think 12:24 that is like the least convenient place to get to from purgatory 12:29 hmm, need to find regular chain / plate mails, both lacking 1 12:30 thanks terrapin, indeed it was frigging there 12:31 so now i have to ascend all of gehennom AFTER purgatory 12:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:63892 (1 day, 9:59:37) 12:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful salamander, on T:64253 (1 day, 10:12:16) 12:49 ok i'm forging my tsurugi. i have a choice of starting from regular rustproof long sword, or a steel one. for two-handed sword i have a platinum one. which final material is best? i guess platinum would be heavier? 12:50 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:50 I'd work with a steel one 12:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed figurine of ki-rin", on T:64478 (1 day, 10:17:48) 12:54 phew, ok, back to where i should have been after purgatory 12:54 is steel density of 75 heavier than regular material 12:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:64601 (1 day, 10:23:31) 12:57 depends what the regular material is 12:57 it is slightly lighter than iron 12:59 got a steel one! fu 12:59 fun 12:59 Density tables are relative 13:00 higher-number materials are heavier than lower-number ones 13:06 kk 13:06 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 13:06 is there a command that searches for an object by name on the current level? 13:07 I just found a "bone-carved staff". That hyphen is throwing me off a little. Was a bone used to carve the staff? 13:07 : will search-highlight in inventory lists; that is it 13:07 dingotron that is one of the spell school staffs 13:07 I figured. but the grammar on it is a little wonky I think. 13:08 carved bone rather than bone-carved I takes it 13:08 clerical staff 13:09 could be handy.... if I should find any clerical spell books 13:16 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 13:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:18 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:19 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 849 points, T:2039, killed by the Goblin King 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1566 (0:15:28) 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a spellbook of restore ability given to him by Hermes, on T:8200 (0:50:07) 13:24 huh, got cure sickness, cure blindness and restore ability gifted all in a row. is that a special thing for healers? 13:24 Casting-focused roles get spellbooks as gifts more often than weapons 13:25 got a mithril large splint mail finally! thx all for your help 13:25 independent of the normal prayer gift spellbook for higher non-max Luck 13:25 yeah, just wondering if they get healing spells as a priority over others 13:25 like weapon gifts the books are tailored to your skillset so ye 13:25 cool 13:29 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1433 (0:10:01) 13:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:65942 (1 day, 10:56:02) 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:10376 (0:57:24) 13:30 ooh nice 13:33 heh, ogre had a club of frost and a frost horn 13:34 wow, random +3 pair of drow bracers 13:34 gettin pretty lucky today 13:35 aren't bracers brittle to light? 13:36 probably 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:135267 (2 days, 8:08:48) 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:135268 (2 days, 8:08:57) 13:36 \o/ finally 13:37 so many curve balls 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:135271 (2 days, 8:09:41) 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:135272 (2 days, 8:09:47) 13:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:135272 (2 days, 8:09:56) 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:12748 (1:04:43) 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1600 points, T:2085, quit 13:38 Loggers_VIII: :) when it rains it pours 13:39 and these new gloves are even one less enchantment from the previous ones 13:39 wow 782 HP 13:39 I thought that wasn't possible anymore 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:13410 (1:06:57) 13:40 it is if you hang around the dungeon for 135k turns 13:43 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:45 felt like i spent 100k of those turns chasing the amulet back and forth through gehennom 13:45 what happened? 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:16775 (1:12:36) 13:46 wizard took it and then dropped it on the final purgatory level 13:46 which dropped it into the final demon boss level 13:46 oooh 13:46 rough 13:46 so had to leave purgatory, descend, ascend while getting rodneyed all the time 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the saddled barded Pale Horse, on T:135499 (2 days, 8:19:15) 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:135502 (2 days, 8:19:18) 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Rider, on T:135553 (2 days, 8:21:00) 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:135556 (2 days, 8:21:09) 13:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:135609 (2 days, 8:23:56) 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:135609 (2 days, 8:23:56) 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 2794 points, T:3928, killed by a mastodon, while praying 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 6503107 points, T:135684, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1694359415.evil.html 13:55 congrats krm26! 13:55 onward to 0.8.3! 13:55 there were a couple new combos introduced werent there? 13:55 yeah, two 13:56 you have gone passed VaderFLAG now on the scoreboard (when it updates) 13:58 gg 13:58 and together VaderFLAG and i are probably 75% of your score mobileuser :-) 14:02 congrats krm26 ! 14:04 ascended with my unused wand of wishing 14:04 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 14:05 no krm26 you are closing in on me! 14:05 https://nethackscoreboard.org/zscore.evil.html 14:06 food time... 14:06 congrats, krm26! 14:07 shocked to find there are only 35 ascensions on the server... 14:10 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:11 you mean ascenders? 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +0 war hammer on an altar, on T:7246 (1:28:00) 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:7290 (1:31:23) 14:17 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 97 points, T:512, killed by a water demon 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 13 points, T:322, killed by hitting herself in the face 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:108408 (4 days, 9:27:20) 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:108410 (4 days, 9:28:42) 15:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Fem Una) had a staff of healing entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:31865 (15:27:40) 15:17 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:41 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7458 (1:35:56) 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Mal Law) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:117163 (21:28:51) 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Mal Law) had a bone small shield entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:117800 (21:41:03) 16:21 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 16:21 hmm in the lava castle, how do i get to the chest? need acid to melt the iron bars? 16:22 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:23 you can't melt them 16:23 there's a secret door somewhere 16:25 Hmmm, I read a scroll of stinking cloud and when it killed the floating eye it coughed a few times before dying.  You'd think that it'd blink instead of cough, perhaps? 16:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 19592 points, T:8911, killed by a crocodile, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:29 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:35 hmm, crystal chest 16:44 wtf, a throne room in the Infidel quest 16:45 never seen that before 16:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Kewl (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 3393 points, T:3422, killed by a steel dart 16:47 1/4 chance in the upper filler levels 16:49 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed for the first time, on T:3016 (0:54:35) 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Rog Dro Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3016 (0:54:35) 16:59 exit 16:59 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:00 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 1004 points, T:3183, killed by a giant leech 17:03 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed elron's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4819 (2:11:34) 17:11 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 469 points, T:1130, killed by a bear trap 17:14 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 17:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a wooden mace entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:17863 (1:19:03) 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:22073 (1:29:34) 17:27 lol I went to a buncha trouble to unlock polearm skill with crowning because I assumed healers didn't get it, turns out they do 17:30 lmaoooooo 17:30 research failure 17:30 well I didn't want any of the other skills anyway >:( 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 117 points, T:1024, killed by a bugbear 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:25337 (9:19:14) 17:37 yay! now i can accidentally lose weaponless conduct! 17:38 lmao 17:38 "The wand backfires! You feel magical energies being absorbed from your exact location." 17:38 didn't BUC a wand? 17:38 no 17:38 I wanted to test to see what it was... 17:39 this is my villain origin story 17:39 without checking beatitude first 17:39 rough 17:39 I've gotten p. lucky to have not done that to myself all things considered 17:39 it's pretty darn rare 17:39 also, latest commits that change the recipe for shadowblade are live, right? 17:39 but do it enough, and statistically... 17:39 what was it again 17:39 werebane+stormy 17:40 coo 17:40 I'm going to go insane and grab the sokoban tool in hopes that it's a marker 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 145 points, T:1119, killed by a giant bat 17:48 https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Grimtooth&diff=154643&oldid=154572 17:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:51 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:51 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:532 (0:09:27) 17:53 Umbire if you're looking for feedback I have some Evilhack differences for you 17:53 Oh I was just providing context to Loggers 17:53 But sure go ahead o: 17:53 oh heh i see 17:53 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:919 (0:11:40) 17:54 i can just add them myself then 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:25747 (9:39:25) 18:04 random sunsword drop from a shrieker 18:04 i am literally the worst possible person for that 18:04 neat™ 18:04 oh not neat LMAO 18:05 you have to hope you're not blasted on pickup and then stash it because anything that finds it will fuck you up 18:08 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had 17 steel shuriken entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:26062 (9:50:54) 18:12 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una), 8490 points, T:3588, killed by a pony 18:26 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una), 1824 points, T:2738, poisoned by a gray fungus, while praying 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:27338 (10:25:00) 18:44 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27342 (10:25:55) 18:49 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:27625 (10:31:46) 19:05 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:07 !who 19:07 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] lacca [evil] :: [hdf-us] eggandhull [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 19:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:25355 (1:59:06) 19:15 yay 19:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:23 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 19:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:1490 (0:19:54) 19:24 so i checked out a bunch of giant samurais dumplogs, and many of them have like mithril large splint mail of drain resistance . is this usually a wish? or is it getting a bunch of mails and read magic detection to see which guy has drain resistance? 19:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2675 points, T:1597, killed by a bolt of cold 19:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:690 (0:02:57) 19:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1294 (0:06:36) 19:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2783 points, T:2144, killed by a rothe 19:41 hi 19:41 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 19:41 congrats krm26 \o/ 19:42 glad to see you made it 19:42 i got royally forked 19:42 i read 19:42 i am finally done adulting for the day 19:42 i think 19:43 we'll see if my wife throws me a curve ball 19:43 broke my riding mower, that was fun 19:44 broke broke? 19:44 engine work or welding work 19:44 the bracket that supports the front of deck, I hit a rock a lil too hard. bent the metal , pulled it right off 19:44 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:44 welding! 19:45 so now when the deck raises or lowers, its just the back part 19:45 and the bracket was dangling, so I plowed a 7 ft long furrow in the yard before i noticed 19:46 so i could finish, i zip tied it to the side of the body frame 19:46 heh 19:46 rest of the yard is now cut a bit lower than the rest :) 19:46 previous rest 19:46 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 19:46 i had a bracket on my deck go and temporarily chained it back in place before i broke out the stick welder 19:46 but yeah i'm going to havw to replace that part 19:46 its all bent to hell 19:47 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:48 but yeah nice going krm26 i'm glad you didnt give up 19:48 bet that win feels really good 19:48 i was already aggravated by that run because i coulda made retribution and hammer but had no forges, and didn't have surplus carrying capacity to take materials with me to the purgatory forges 19:48 so the back and forth really steamed my clams 19:49 * K2 nods 19:49 i'm lucky i whined in this channel or i would have gone down to the mid level purgatory and tried killing all the player monsters looking for the amulet 19:49 community effort 19:50 it would be cool if when the amulet was dropped in open air on purg-2 it went down to the first level 19:50 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/f30987e013e3...957a68c25141 19:50 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin f1fe3c6 - Fix: Occasional program in disorder when autounlocking magic chests 19:50 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin a674a30 - Fix: Report objects on magic chest square when nearlooking 19:51 [EvilHack] k21971 957a68c - Merge pull request #145 from saltwaterterrapin/master 19:51 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 19:51 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:53 latest commits are live 19:54 thanks terrapin 20:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 8165 points, T:4480, killed by a soldier ant 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1301 (0:40:10) 20:08 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven long sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:1559 (0:42:03) 20:09 can you wish for dark elven bracers as any other material than adamantine? 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Dro Fem Cha) had Dirge gifted to her by the grace of Lolth, on T:1860 (0:44:05) 20:11 Loggers_VIII no 20:11 lame 20:13 oughta be a non-drow "pair of bracers" item 20:14 then it wouldnt be as special 20:14 anti-lame 20:14 heh 20:18 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 3536 points, T:2345, zombified by an elf zombie, while praying 20:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:28544 (2:15:53) 20:26 oh yea 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:28746 (2:17:11) 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:29010 (2:18:57) 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law), 1064 points, T:1574, killed by a rock gnome 20:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:11271 (3:26:08) 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2443 (0:18:43) 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:2491 (0:19:46) 20:47 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:47 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:125347 (1 day, 0:05:21) 20:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Hippocrates, on T:32245 (2:40:58) 20:51 heehee get dragon'd 20:51 :( 20:53 "Dragonbane's power overwhelms the blue dragon! The blue dragon is killed!" 20:53 dragonbane is really nice on the healer quest 20:57 K2, I had some thoughts on the whole "giant infidel" crowning thing---in particular that giants shouldn't be able to wield large weapons single-handedly in other polyforms too. But of course it wouldn't make sense if they lost the ability when poly'd into, say, a fire giant. But by that logic, an illithid or whatever should be able to wield large weapons when poly'd into a giant as well. Does that seem reasonable? 20:57 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Dro Fem Una) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4144 (0:34:32) 20:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1219 points, T:1179, killed by a dwarf zombie 21:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1594 points, T:1745, killed by a rope golem 21:05 ooh the shimmering dragon breath looks cool 21:09 YANI: when stun breath is reflected, you only become confused instead of stunned 21:10 and when it is reflected twice you become stoned 21:10 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:11 ugh non-orctown minetowns are so crap 21:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1584 points, T:1987, killed by a giant ant 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:27938 (10:47:55) 21:13 cheers, lolth! 21:13 probably the only weapon can actually use 21:17 terrapin yeah 21:19 so if a giant were to poly into a dwarf or an illithid or whatever, they'd have to drop their wielded two-handed weapon (or go from 1 hand to 2 hand if not wearing a shield 21:19 ) 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 174419 points, T:37050, killed by the Cyclops 21:19 but on the flipside, if Loggers_VIII the dorf poly'ed into a storm giant, he could one hand a 2 handers no prob 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bugsniper (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3068 (0:25:02) 21:19 that's what youre saying correct? 21:19 protip don't fight cyclops without a plan 21:19 :( 21:20 yes 21:20 that knockback attack can mess ya up 21:20 sounds good 21:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:22 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2165 (0:47:19) 21:22 second thing: i noticed that if you know your crowning spell and the relevant crowning sword has already been generated, you either unrestrict your wielded weapon (if carrying a spellbook of your crowning spell), or you get a spellbook AND unrestrict your wielded weapon 21:22 wooo he almost got me, he spawned with a wand of lightning 21:23 \o/ 21:23 this is vanilla behavior and well-known enough to be documented on the wiki, but it seems weird that you can game the system like that 21:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:13875 (4:01:05) 21:24 i'm ok with that vanilla behavior 21:24 okay, cool 21:24 marker in the gk chest 21:25 havent seen that in awhile 21:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:546 (0:13:35) 21:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:806 (0:15:37) 21:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3472 points, T:2001, killed by a gargoyle 21:35 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Sam Trt Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2466 (0:59:45) 21:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 537 points, T:889, diseased by an orc zombie, while praying 21:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 264 points, T:416, killed by a brown mold 21:44 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin opened pull request #146: Let all and only giants wield two-handed weapons in one hand - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/146 21:44 oh snap 21:45 oh dammit i just remembered bracers are a thing 21:45 it's always right after the commit 21:46 heh 21:46 i wanna say it, but it feels worn out 21:46 ah what the heck 21:46 'this is the way' 21:46 it's been a while since that's made an appearance 21:50 :) 22:04 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±5] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/957a68c25141...1942f6ff9aa8 22:04 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin ebf5ef0 - Let all and only giants wield two-handed weapons in one hand 22:04 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 7df38bd - Account for bracers when checking if a new polyform can wield a two-hander 22:05 [EvilHack] k21971 1942f6f - Merge pull request #146 from saltwaterterrapin/master 22:09 @e?lava demon 22:09 lava demon (&) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 40 | Gen: special | AC: -8 | Atk: 2d4 weapon physical, 1d8 bite physical, 2d6 bite fire | Align: -7 | poisonous, nopoly, stalker, silverhate, infravis 22:11 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/1942f6ff9aa8...55e2652e654a 22:11 [EvilHack] k21971 55e2652 - Changelog update. 22:13 i'm punching a lava demon with silver gauntlets and there's no sear message. Is that normal? 22:13 ooooh no 22:13 it is not 22:14 its flagged as MH_DEMON 22:15 is it a true demon? 22:15 or a sandestin? 22:15 summoned via forge 22:15 it happened for two of them 22:16 hmm 22:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:16 i'm testing this with other demons 22:16 no sear msg 22:17 when did that break? 22:18 ugh its broken in 0.8.2 also wtf 22:19 okay, so the damage bonus is added, there's just no message 22:19 -!- bugsniper has joined #evilhack 22:19 yup 22:19 heya bugsniper 22:19 hi K2 22:19 terrapin yeah i just noticed that too 22:19 surprised this wasnt brought up sooner 22:21 bugsniper so what's new? been awhile seen i've seen ya play 22:23 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/c08ca2830b5e306e3d4401ed8030460c4e58669d 22:24 oooh 22:24 could be if ((obj || unarmed) && hated_obj), i think 22:25 oh wait, unarmed has a super weird definition 22:26 yeah so just !uwep i think 22:26 that will also be the case if you were wielding mirror that shattered, though 22:27 maybe this? 22:27 if ((obj || (uarmg && !uwep)) && hated_obj) 22:27 searmsg(&youmonst, mon, hated_obj, FALSE); 22:28 still won't work if you were wielding mirror that shattered and happen to have gloves 22:28 s/mirror/a mirror/g 22:29 but mirrors are glass not silver, shouldnt matter right? 22:29 they are defined as having silver i think? maybe that's just shade_glare, actually 22:30 in objects.c they are glass 22:30 i dont recall mirrors as having any properties like silver 22:30 not to say they dont 22:31 i just dont remember ever reading that 22:31 the (uarmg && !uwep) seems to work 22:32 ah yeah it's just shade_aware. cool! 22:32 maybe it should be (obj == uarmg && !uwep) 22:33 hated_obj == uarmg 22:33 that would make sense 22:33 hmm but uarmg will never break on hit tho 22:33 not one that would be a hated material 22:35 oh i see 22:35 yeah 22:35 it looks like the hackem commit was specifically for something with boomerangs? 22:36 yeah and it could have happened in evilhack too 22:36 oh do boomerangs break? 22:36 oh i see, yeah 22:37 oh wait, but hated_obj might be a ring if barehanded 22:38 gonna test this change out with asan enabled 22:38 just (uarmg && !uwep) 22:39 i think adding another boolean at the start like unarmed_no_really = !obj; would work 22:40 the current unarmed is rather unfortunately named imo 22:40 ok 22:40 and yeah heh 22:41 well i guess this one isn't unarmed per se either, just you aren't hitting with/throwing a weapon 22:44 "Your silver gauntlets of power sears the lava demon's flesh!" ugh 22:45 heh 22:45 GRAMMAR 22:48 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 22:49 terrapin that works too 22:49 and there's a few other places in the block of code that references !obj 22:49 i think it's better than using uarmg since silver rings also work 22:49 yup 22:49 i tested with a silver ring 22:49 https://termbin.com/yjyy 22:50 You pummel Juiblex! Your silver ring of warning sears Juiblex's flesh! 22:50 neat 22:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 341 points, T:913, killed by a large mimic 22:51 ship it 22:54 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/55e2652e654a...40601e2884e7 22:54 [EvilHack] k21971 40601e2 - Fix: hated material sear message feedback not appearing if attacking unarmed. 22:57 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:57 these are live 22:57 !who 22:57 K2: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] tau [evil] Heliokopis [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 22:58 gonna get to bed, gnite o/ and thanks terrapin 22:58 'night K2 o/ 23:09 so I've been trying out some new steam games 23:10 and gog and itch.io games 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Dro Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:29860 (11:31:32) 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Dwa Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6556 (1:44:07) 23:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Dwa Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:6683 (1:48:17) 23:17 well, if I can deal with the zombies, I guess the minesflayers won't be as much to worry about 23:22 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 23:23 What's the best plan for dealing with mineown guards as a convict.? do I get the murder penalty for fighting them? 23:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 486 points, T:1127, killed by the Goblin King 23:25 i don't think you get a murder penalty 23:25 rather, none of the really bad stuff, since you're chaotic 23:26 there's a bit of an alignment hit, but it's less than it is for other roles when it comes to the watch 23:26 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:27 well just took care of one watchman and it didn't give me any bad messages 23:28 aaand I'm dead 23:28 watch captain had a wand of sleep 23:28 I wish I had a way to kill the minetown priest 23:28 The human watch captain hits you! The human watch captain punches you! The human watch captain pummels you! The human watch captain punches you! The human watch captain hits you! The human watch captain pummels you! The human watch captain hits you! You die.. 23:28 oof :( 23:30 That's two games in a row dead to wands of sleep 23:30 does attacking the priest anger the minetown watch? 23:31 use a strong pet to kill the minetown priest. or a wand of polymorph while standing outside the temple 23:31 not if they don't see you do it 23:31 a lucky poly trap further down in mines can turn a pet into something that can eat priests 23:32 a pet that can kill priest can take out the watch first 23:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Con Dwa Fem Cha), 7400 points, T:7028, killed by a human watch captain, while sleeping 23:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:66605 (1 day, 11:26:30) 23:35 I don't have those wands 23:35 or any way to polymorph anyone 23:41 -!- dingotron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:43 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 23:46 -!- dingotron has quit [Client Quit] 23:50 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:14891 (4:39:11) 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2553 (0:16:48)