00:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:5873 (0:51:33) 00:45 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4470 (0:58:51) 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3926 (0:34:37) 01:17 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7376 (1:30:37) 01:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) had a large shield entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:31018 (12:17:20) 01:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) had a steel scimitar entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:31154 (12:19:35) 01:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:32069 (12:32:58) 01:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:33027 (12:45:25) 02:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:08 @e?aphrodite 02:08 Aphrodite (n) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 13 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 0d0 claw item steal, 0d0 claw seduce | Align: 0 | tele, nopoly, stalker, infravis 02:14 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:12834 (2:27:23) 02:16 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:17 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:18 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 02:20 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 02:21 I feel like gelatinous cubes should be able to move through webs but mechanically having a means of controlling their movement is good 02:21 for hostile and tame ones 02:24 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:13923 (2:37:29) 02:42 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:15949 (2:55:20) 02:50 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven short sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:17851 (3:04:10) 02:52 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:17979 (3:05:52) 02:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:33371 (13:26:59) 02:58 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 03:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:33899 (13:39:46) 03:12 qq all - my Dex is 10 so it seems that my pie-throwing capabilities are missing every time.  Shouldn't it splatter over the face every once in awhile?  I didn't hit with 9 pies which seems a little ridiculous. 03:16 chance is (dex-1)/25, so 9/25 = 36%. So missing 9 times is a bit ridiculous 03:21 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a glass stiletto entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:28583 (3:34:43) 03:27 A bit ridiculous, not especially so but clearly unlucky 03:27 There a reason you intent on hitting with thrown pies and can't just wield it to splat someone directly? 03:27 Sure - and yet I've been sac'ing unicorns and it seems my luck isn't all that bad. 03:28 hmmm, I thought you could only throw them. 03:28 irl luck vs in game luck 03:28 Ok, so I wield it, and then just go to hit the monster and it'll have me try to put the pie in their face? 03:29 Or do I wield it and hit F and then move into where the monster is, like as if I was going to dissolve bars with an acid potion? 03:30 you can just hit it, if the monster is not peaceful 03:30 ok, I'll try that, thanks! 03:32 Hey, it worked on the first try - much appreciated! 03:35 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:30442 (3:48:23) 03:40 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:31014 (3:53:18) 03:47 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:31718 (4:01:11) 03:52 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:53 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:32504 (4:06:19) 04:03 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:34076 (4:16:53) 04:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:15 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:22140 (7:09:37) 04:26 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:28 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 04:31 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a steel stiletto entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:36970 (4:45:06) 05:02 Permanently convert alignment need negative record. 05:02 So typically just kill quest leader? 05:06 That's a good consistent way of doing it. 05:06 You can also do shit involving unicorns. 05:06 rev genocide required unicorns and keep sacrificing 05:06 They have to be the same alignment as you and the altar has to be cross-aligned 05:07 It's a Bad Idea in vanilla since outside of current version in progress it just makes the game completely unwinnable unless you've already done quest 05:12 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 05:41 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:43278 (5:55:02) 05:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 05:59 Ah I play 3.7, seems 3.7 can kill quest leader and win, but I never did that. 06:00 Yeah that's current version in progress 06:00 they just started allowing that 06:20 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven helm entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:47360 (6:33:32) 06:23 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:27 Typically what AC can I do castle safely? 06:28 I'm now -21. 06:28 xdminsy: That's pretty darn good. :) 06:31 that's okay enough, I'd push it a bit higher personally 06:48 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:49838 (7:01:42) 06:57 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:50721 (7:10:38) 07:07 I'm not sure, could I beat dragons? 07:07 I encounter one baby shadow dragon, I think I can't kill it in melee.. 07:08 Why am I so weak :P 07:09 But at least I finished sokoban and mines this game.. 07:12 no good weapon? 07:12 Lol I'm using +2 Orcrist.. 07:17 you could clear quest first 07:17 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:22 Ah yes, I forget that.. 07:23 Can I give quest artifact back to leader, and later come to kill him? 07:23 I'm not sure. 07:24 A player monster died with "lifesaving in his possession. I first thought it might be cursed, but it is not. 07:24 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:25 Might be a death drop 07:25 Might also be that they didn't think to put it on before they were killed 07:25 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 07:26 Hmm, yeah I didn't think of death drop. 07:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:37714 (16:23:13) 07:50 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:05 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:05 morning 08:06 'lo 08:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:17 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:20 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 08:23 morning 08:23 afternoon 08:24 hackemslashem on irc? wut?? 08:24 welll 08:24 'lo 08:24 I have a rest day so figured I'd fix some crap 08:25 Gotta figure out how behind EvilHack I am too... 08:28 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 08:38 @e?baalz 08:38 baalz ~3~ bat (B) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 22 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Atk: 1d4 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, infravis, passes-bars 08:38 @e?baalzebub 08:38 Baalzebub (&) | Lvl: 89 | Diff: 45 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 4d6 bite drain str, 2d6 gaze stun, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: 20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 08:38 @?baalzebub 08:38 Baalzebub (&) | Lvl: 89 | Diff: 45 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 2d6 bite drain str, 2d6 gaze stun | Align: 20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 08:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:57 artifact aklys time 08:58 since i did this last night - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/98887629c6ce95f88cd46dced23b91f7193a8d1e 08:58 :O 08:59 drow priest (and non lawful priest in general) need a bit more love 08:59 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:02 waddahell 09:02 no way 09:02 WAY 09:03 you'll like new artifact 09:03 it'll make up for drow lack of using hotg 09:03 i actually went to bed thinking/dreaming about this 09:03 hahaha 09:03 keolewa gets love? 09:04 perhaps 09:04 it should it's so bad lol 09:05 keolewa + demonbane 09:05 silver 09:06 maybe 09:06 hashing ideas out 09:06 drow are chaotic right, atleast one artifact must be chaotic.... 09:06 take away hotg's tethering, so you have to make a choice between melee and aklys? 09:06 just a thought 09:06 k3ut0i priests always get demonbane 09:07 Haa. 09:07 well its another case of 'cat is out of the bag' 09:07 i really shouldnt nerf hotg 09:07 you really should 09:07 but if you won't it's not a big deal 09:07 infidel demon out of luck? 09:07 don't play infidel 09:07 well you don't 09:07 yeah demons cant wield anything silver 09:08 also they can use sota 09:08 all those new acronyms 09:08 sota? 09:08 and they're spellcasters, they're already eatin good 09:08 I can't keep up 09:08 staff of the archmagi 09:08 you mean SoA? 09:08 oh 09:08 yeah they can use the SotA 09:08 lol 09:08 SodA 09:09 everyone forgets about it for some reason 09:09 YodA 09:09 but ARTIFACT AKLYS 09:09 my dream 09:09 wear gloves? 09:09 demons cant handle silver at all 09:09 that 09:09 well that's the issue 09:09 silllly 09:09 you are silly 09:09 balance :-) 09:09 it has been said :P 09:10 keolewa is neutral 09:10 very true 09:10 sunsword is bladed, other priests have to wish for it to get hotg, same is fine here 09:11 * K2 nods 09:19 Loggers_VIII: not necessarily, they can wait for the first Archon to be generated with it 09:19 yeah but in practice that isn't super practical 09:20 could wait around on the castle, I suppose. but anywhere else you see archons you'll have been past some places with lotsa demons/undead already 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1294 (0:21:56) 09:23 Castle, Vlad's Tower, any other branch that's "outside" Gehennom 09:24 yeah, vlad's tower, but as I said you'll have been past some places with lotsa demons/undead already 09:25 you'd likely have to be level 30 too, which I know people like avoiding in evil 09:27 @e?archon 09:27 Archon (A) | Lvl: 19 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 16 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: dungeons | AC: -6 | Atk: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 2d6 gaze blind, 1d8 claw physical, 4d6 cast spell | Align: 15 | flies, regen, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 09:28 Not necessarily! 09:28 It'd 'help' sure 09:30 it'd help quite a bit 09:30 I don't see it happening without wraith farming 09:38 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:38 aklys! 09:38 i must still be asleep 09:38 pinch yourself 09:40 one of the hardest bits in making a new forged artifact - naming it 09:41 supercool aklys 09:41 i find it a little odd that drow can't even touch artifacts that aren't actively giving off light when they can pick up grimtooth which wants to straight-up murder them 09:41 YANI: picking up grimtooth as drow kills you 09:42 "The resentful blast twists in your hand and slits your wrist! You die..." 09:42 *resentful blade 09:42 and new aklys recipe: demonbane + grimtooth 09:42 that was the easiest way i saw to disallow drow using lit artifacts 09:42 i was thinking it could go in retouch_object like the banes 09:43 lemme look 09:44 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/98887629c6ce95f88cd46dced23b91f7193a8d1e/src/artifact.c#L3693 could just add the (is drow && is light artifact) to the definition of bane, i think 09:46 heh i was looking right at that line 09:46 great minds 09:46 could add the drow condition to bane_applies 09:47 actually now that i look at it the message for death by bane-handling is weird, e.g. "killed by handling Grimtooth that was made of iron" 09:48 grimtooth is iron? I always thought it was stone 09:48 bane_applies is used in touch_artifact as well so i think you'd still end up with sunsword/HotG evading non-lawful drows' grasp 09:49 wait wait what is there gonna be an artiaklys? 09:50 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 09:50 no i'm wrong; that sounds like the best way to do it 09:50 Grimtooth is an orcish dagger, it was always iron 09:50 hasn't had its material changed for Evil 09:50 well damn now I have to alter my mental image 09:50 krm26 yeah 09:50 testing... 09:51 yeah that works 09:51 you can still have them in inventory, just cant wield 09:56 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/98887629c6ce...8b08b79db605 09:56 [EvilHack] k21971 8b08b79 - Tweak to Drow handling lit artifacts. 09:58 Loggers_VIII: grimtooth isn't intelligent, it shouldn't do stuff on its own 09:59 carrying over grimtooth disease attack to a ranged weapon sounds extremely OP 09:59 not a thing :) 09:59 grimtooth is technically ranged, you just need to pick it up after you throw it once 10:00 the grimtooth aklys recipe was purely in the hypothetical where it instakilled elves on pickup :P 10:01 you could say every object is ranged since you can throw it, but 'ranged' in this context means weapons meant to be fired or thrown/returned 10:01 fired as in ammo/launcher 10:01 anyways 10:02 keolewa needs more of a purpose 10:02 and its a club, aklys shares skill with it 10:08 wut wut wut 10:08 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:09 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 10:09 did an artifact aklys descend from heaven? 10:11 not yet 10:11 brb 10:12 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5702 (1:13:14) 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:6544 (1:22:29) 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had a spellbook of cure blindness given to her by Hermes, on T:69093 (22:41:02) 10:23 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:6572 (1:23:35) 10:23 there is no way to use that gift skillfully you ass 10:23 but at least it isn't blank :-) 10:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:16484 (3:51:24) 10:34 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:34 -!- Log has joined #evilhack 10:34 !who 10:34 Log: [hdf-us] Splunge [evil] krm26 [evil] tau [evil] Grouchy [evil] :: [hdf-eu] k3ut0i [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 10:34 hm 10:34 -!- Log has quit [Client Quit] 10:34 hmm? 10:37 uh oh 10:37 shambling horror just charmed my cloak of mr off me 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11147 (1:48:22) 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had a silver heavy mace entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:71460 (23:05:00) 10:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:39342 (18:06:12) 10:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:39366 (18:06:20) 10:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) killed Geryon, on T:39378 (18:07:34) 11:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:18986 (4:31:01) 11:21 hey so new bug that was discovered in hackem 11:21 and it applies here 11:21 turns out you can wish for armor artifacts with an object property and you'll get that property 11:22 not weapons tho 11:22 and even though the obj prop doesnt show on the artifact description, the obj prop is active 11:22 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:23 dragonbane of decay? 11:23 i know what IM DOING :-) 11:25 huh... this might only work in wizmode tho 11:26 hmm 11:31 fixed it 11:31 there's two places where you have to handle obj prop restrictions - artifact.c and objnam.c 11:32 why u never let us cheat! 11:32 objnam.c was missing artifact case 11:32 heh 11:32 well get it now while the getting is good 11:43 there is only one wishable artifact armor -- or does it apply to quest artifacts too? 11:44 it does 11:45 krm26 now loves the mitre 11:46 does the ring of phul qualify :-) 11:46 prob not as it's not a weapon or armor 11:49 in wiki: monster spawn rate is 3x after tier 1 demon lord lair. Does that mean only on levels below that lair, or the whole dungeon? 11:49 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/8b08b79db605...16883d94dfd8 11:50 [EvilHack] k21971 16883d9 - Fix: armor-based artifacts could come with an object property. 11:50 k3ut0i entire dungeon 11:50 Monster spawn rate is for the whole dungeon 11:50 That's just a threshold past which it increases to the given rate 11:50 I just killed greyon in his lair, but enlightment shows only 2x 11:52 krm26: do you think there are really 30 free bits (at minimum -- obviously it's possible on some systems, including mine I think) in this struct? https://termbin.com/n428 11:52 is he a tier 1 demon lord? 11:52 I would have guessed 6 free bits 11:52 Noisytoot: yes 11:53 its not when you kill him 11:53 I passed the level too. 11:53 its when you travel below that first demon boss lair 11:53 Went untill tier 2, and look at Dispater and came back. 11:53 qt: compilers may or may not make bitfields actually take up the amount of bits they are defined as 11:53 in current version, hellb level could appear before hella 11:54 don't use them if you care about portability 11:54 lemme see where geyron spawns 11:54 geryon 11:54 In my game his lair was just after valley of the dead 11:54 yeah he's tier 1 11:56 just tested this, its behaving like it should 11:57 hah well fun fact 11:57 Hmm, wonder what went wrong in my game... 11:57 nothing 11:58 so go past tier 1 demon boss level, monster spawn rate is 3x 11:58 go back to tier 1 level, spawn rate goes back to 2x 11:58 Noisytoot: what are you saying, that bitfields can end up with 0 padding? 11:58 surely they have to be padded to the word size at least? 11:58 or are you saying each "bitfield" can end up taking an entire int or something 12:01 K2: So that will happen for wizard tower level too? For last few games I was going down to increase spawn rates, so I can sacrifice more. I thought it was working. Lol placebo 12:01 yeah at wiz tower spawn rate is 4x 12:02 If I come back, will it go back again to 2x? 12:02 when it's locked in is when a u. type event occurs 12:02 yeah 12:02 looking at this i need to make a tweak anyways since wiztower is now its own branch 12:03 nice catch k3ut0i 12:04 yup i can fix this so the spawn rate doesnt jump all over the place 12:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) wished for "cursed magic marker", on T:40196 (19:18:13) 12:04 qt: I'm saying that each bitfield can end up taking an entire int. 12:06 When I was reverse genociding nurses, there was a message, 'you feel guilty'. Why? 12:06 Never had that before 12:09 Noisytoot: but the C standard says "If enough space remains, a bit-field that immediately follows another bit-field in a structure shall be packed into adjacent bits of the same unit." 12:09 (well, that's from C17 apparently, I don't know what earlier ones might have had to say about it) 12:10 that sounds to me like C17 at least obligates compilers to pack bitfields together, and not pad each one up to an int 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 23534 points, T:14772, killed by a soldier ant 12:17 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/16883d94dfd8...419981daf4db 12:17 [EvilHack] k21971 419981d - Fix: spawn rate behavior. 12:17 ^ mentioned you k3ut0i 12:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 236 points, T:601, killed by Ms. Sipaliwini; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:14601 (3:03:48) 12:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) had a large shield entrusted to her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:41846 (19:37:42) 12:24 Will monsters not loot bags if they cannot lift them up? 12:28 i wanna say yes 12:28 but i'm not 100% certain 12:28 that's a good question 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 30233 points, T:15153, killed by a gnoll hunter 12:29 Im using a bag to store junk and no one is touching it 12:30 heh 12:30 qt: That seems to be correct, as long as you have less than 16 bits of bitfields (because the minimum maximum size of an unsigned int is 16 bits and what happens if there's not enough space in a single unit is unspecified) 12:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Arc Hob Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:42216 (19:44:33) 12:32 good point, I wonder if there would typically be padding between them or at the end if each one was the size of an int - 1 bit or something 12:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3734 (0:32:40) 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:74307 (1 day, 0:58:58) 13:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:22683 (5:12:18) 13:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:18 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law), 28465 points, T:13567, poisoned by a locust, while praying 13:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:00 so k3ut0i found a bug with bags on floor 14:00 if you load down a bag and make it too heavy for a monster to carry, they wont loot it 14:01 ...are you sure? i would swear i've seen monsters loot chests chock full of rocks 14:01 feature 14:01 AND if there's something in it they really want, they'll hover over the bag and wont move away from it 14:01 krm26 i'm talking about bags 14:01 I have also seen monsters loot heavy boxes, but not bags 14:01 bags specifically 14:01 boxes/chests are fine 14:02 so with enough rocks you dont need a chest! 14:02 so I added a one-liner that allows monsters to loot bags on the ground without picking them up if they cant carry it 14:02 but 14:02 they still hover over the bag and wont move if there's still stuff in it they want but cant pick up 14:03 i dont remember exactly where in the code i need to address that bit 14:08 monmove i think 14:14 ugh 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:76740 (1 day, 2:20:52) 14:16 nothin but daggers all the time 14:20 yeah, monsters cant split stacks, at least not in containers 14:20 they cant pick up some of say a stack of 1000 daggers 14:23 will they loot cursed BoHs and destroy stuff? 14:23 no 14:23 cursed boh have been offlimits since the beginning 14:24 i can get the monster to peel itself off of the bag (or any container for that matter) if i get close and they attack 14:24 but if i move far enough away they'll go back to it and stay there 14:25 i think the issue is they think they have enough room in inventory to carry more but everything in the bag is stacks 14:26 probably rare when you're not in wizmode wishing for 50 potions to weigh down a bag 14:27 yeah 14:27 normally containers either get emptied quickly or there's a lot of random crap in it that the monster can fill their inventory with 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:77472 (1 day, 2:33:18) 14:29 this is what I have currently - https://termbin.com/1d2k 14:29 dang... can't pickpocket the wand of orcus :( 14:29 ^ this allows bags on the ground to be looted that are too heavy for the monster to carry 14:30 and i tossed in a weight recalc for the container being looted 14:30 makes sense 14:30 "You try to pickpocket the balrog. The Wand of Orcus evades your grasp!" 14:30 for science 14:30 heh 14:31 i think the only real fix would be to look at what's on the square and see if there's room for a monster to carry any of it 14:31 i don't know if that would be worth it or not 14:31 well... this at least allows them to loot bags on the ground without having picking them up first 14:31 will call it a partial fix 14:32 btw i've started on the magic keys; i should have more time in a half hour to really get into it 14:33 back in a bit 14:33 awesome 14:33 thanks terrapin 14:33 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:33 dev protip - want to find bugs? announce an imminent release 14:34 dev protip - want to find even more bugs? release 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:118834 (1 day, 9:53:23) 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had a staff of war entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:77897 (1 day, 2:44:23) 14:40 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:43 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/419981daf4db...4aaa75463fce 14:43 [EvilHack] k21971 4aaa754 - Partial fix: monsters can loot bags on the ground that they can't carry. 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Geryon, on T:119032 (1 day, 10:03:29) 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:119105 (1 day, 10:06:39) 14:51 where the heck are all these demon lords coming from?! 14:51 they keep gating in even though I'm not adjacent to a & 14:52 !whereis bouquet 14:52 K2: [hdf-us] bouquet [evil]: (Rog Dro Fem Cha) T:119085 Gehennom level: 43 14:52 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:53 dealt with lolth, geryon, dispater already. 14:53 i bet thats the last of them 14:54 i'm not seeing anything else on your screen that could summon a demon lord 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:78446 (1 day, 3:00:06) 14:56 that was bananas! 14:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R0oECCuN6I 14:56 I think it started with a titan, but even wielding demonbane they kept showing up. 14:57 oh there was a titan? 14:57 ya, not sure where he buggered off to. I don't think i killed him. Maybe it was a chameleon? 14:58 ah yeah, summon nasties allows certain demon lords to be summoned when in gehennom 14:58 he started the summon nasties which included some &'s, but I was wielding demonbane so I'm not sure how the purple &'s ended up there 14:58 oh 14:58 (narrators voice) it was, indeed, bananas. 15:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:01 found him 15:01 wielding demonbane prevents demon gating, but not summon nasties 15:02 K2: I was just reviewing my ENEMIES_LIST.txt and I'm sorry to say it looks like you're next to go 15:02 bring it 15:02 i'm ready 15:02 see what I mean? https://termbin.com/zvp1 15:02 oops... i read it 15:03 some force has been working its way down that list in order 15:03 so it was you this whole time qt? 15:03 you're thr reason? 15:03 I should have changed the perms so only I could read it 15:03 I think some demon or evil spirit read it 15:03 heh 15:03 but I did write "do not read" 15:03 not sure how much more I could have done, really 15:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:04 titans are lawful so that could get geryon and dispater, but lolth is chaotic 15:07 maybe one of the first 2 gated her in before bouquet could wield demonbane 15:08 i have a goodle alert for your death k2 so i know to look out for qt 15:08 google 15:08 hah 15:08 man i'm not going put up much of a fight typing like that 15:13 well finding amulets was a bust and never got it from stupid Hermes but eventually a random aleax coughed up a polished shield so 40k turns later i can face down the black dragons blocking me everywhere 15:13 time to accidentally disintegrate giantslayer 15:16 monster summoning in hell can summon any demon lord regardless of alignment 15:16 I just put on my dragonbane and punch black dragons to death. 15:17 they're slightly less awful than gray dragons 15:28 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:28 i would do that if my god would give me dragonbane instead of an infinite supply of daggers 15:32 Lolth gave me a pile of spears so I killed her. 15:32 oh i would so kill hermes 15:35 sheesh 8 healer quest dragons so far, no scales 15:36 there we go! the power of whining 15:36 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:40 it works for me 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11032 (1:40:48) 15:52 heh so the only way i have to kill black dragons is magic missile and the only defense i have against black dragons is a shield of reflection :-) 15:52 need to run up hiding behind the shield, get swallowed, then take off the shield and unload 15:53 There should be an indestructible polearm artifact that you can safely hit dragons with without getting in line with them. 15:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] SeamusMcRed (Pri Trt Mal Law), 1876 points, T:4270, diseased by a hobbit zombie, while helpless 15:56 soalberd 15:58 hmm, shimmering or black 16:05 does giantslayer gets its bonus against Cyclops? 16:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:05 iirc cyclops is not a giant 16:06 okay wiki says cyclops is a giant 16:10 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:11 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:11 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:14 ooooh random secespita in quest, SWEET 16:19 working on the aklys 16:24 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:24 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:24 K2, do you happen to know off the top of your head what the equivalent of doname() is without an article? 16:24 err 16:25 no :/ 16:25 hmm 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:80773 (1 day, 4:30:37) 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:80780 (1 day, 4:31:14) 16:26 well i can always go with doname(mchest) + 2 i guess 16:27 the relevant lines are already peak jank so it doesn't really make things worse 16:33 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 16:38 hippo is gonna snag my staff i know it 16:38 hungry hippo 16:39 just cuz i murdered one lousy oracle because i needed warning to survive 16:39 if i hadn't murdered the oracle i wouldn't have made it to hippo! 16:39 here goes nothin 16:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:81121 (1 day, 4:44:37) 16:39 *phew* 16:43 back in a few 16:54 terrapin: is the result of doname freed anywhere (meaning that would cause memory leaks)? 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] hasselhoff (Kni Dro Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Lolth, on T:13934 (11:00:58) 17:02 yeah, it is 17:03 it's passed to another char * 17:04 ooh, archon WILL 100% have sunsword won't it....so wishing for a blessed figurine of an archon potentially gives you an archon pet AND sunsword 17:04 without eating an artifact wish 17:04 that doesn't seem acceptable 17:04 ^ k2, is this right? 17:04 if correct, insufficiently evil 17:10 krm26: 1. Archons have either Sunsword or Demonbane 2. In 3.4.3 yes, but 3.6.0 "fixed" this. 17:10 In 3.6, figurines don't get inventory. 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:32712 (7:51:01) 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32715 (7:51:10) 17:17 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:31 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:34 You could have just not murdered the Oracle 17:34 at least not directly 17:34 all righty, (un)locking is done, just need to do monster looting 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Sam Hum Mal Law) returned The Tsurugi of Muramasa to Lord Sato, completing his quest, on T:33433 (7:55:44) 17:35 honestly most of the work was fixing silly bugs/oversights from my previous magic chest stuff 17:35 gtg 17:48 i would have loved to farm out my murders but this game was short of any options for a looong time 17:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) stole 910 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Upernavik's general store, on T:22533 (7:22:48) 17:49 in fact i am seriously thinking about burning a magic lamp on a magic whistle which is ultralame 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:82623 (1 day, 5:38:25) 18:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:23240 (7:53:01) 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a scimitar entrusted to her by Odin, on T:23606 (8:03:37) 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:120995 (1 day, 10:58:55) 19:02 terrapin \o/ 19:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 26719 points, T:22581, killed by a bolt of cold, while sleeping 19:16 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 19:18 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Client Quit] 19:30 am i hallucinating that the spell of knock could knock back small monsters at some point? 19:33 and that they triggered falling rock traps? 19:38 i think knock spell knocks back monster in 3.7 19:39 ah that's where that's from 20:20 "The mountain dwarf carefully opens the magic chest..." 20:20 "The mountain dwarf removes a dagger from the magic chest." 20:20 food time, then more testing. the end is in sight! 20:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] hasselhoff (Kni Dro Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:14999 (11:49:11) 20:47 \o/ 20:47 i keep revamping this aklys 20:48 what's your current state? i've missed everything 20:48 keolewa + demonbane 20:48 to make 20:49 is silver 20:49 has shock res 20:49 suppresses demon gating like demonbane 20:49 its kind ameh 20:49 so priests have to decide between hammer and aklys? or is hammer going away? 20:49 *kinda meh 20:49 hammer stays 20:50 hammer is already kind of aklys-like, seems weird to have something so similar to hammer 20:50 but with that change i made with drow and light sources, drow will never be able to use the hammer 20:50 well f em :-) giants can never use retribution, that's the way it goes 20:51 true 20:51 keolewa + cleaver, hits everything in its path without being blocked! 20:51 i kinda think we dont need this 20:51 now TAHT is artifact level-behavior :-) 20:51 don't need keolewa+cleaver or the aklys 20:51 i'm agnostic on whether an aklys is needed 20:51 we dont need another forged artifact period 20:52 in fact, neat as they are, i think there are already a bit too many recipes 20:52 i meant to stop with the AoR, but then dichotomy 20:52 yeah i dont want to add another artifact 20:53 whole time i've been working on this, i've had the feeling 20:53 you cannae do this to me 20:54 och 20:54 well,  yeah you can 20:54 well i have to tell my truth 20:54 and share my feelings 20:54 and i need a hug 20:54 :P 20:54 you'll get no hugs from me 20:54 :P 20:54 * K2 sobs 20:54 dogs give free hugs 20:55 my dogs are wet 20:55 ewww 20:55 you dry them off, still wet 20:57 ew hate that wet dog smell 20:57 it rained today. again 20:57 like we need more rain here 20:57 what's the aklys called? 20:58 had a crazy thunderstorm last night over here 20:58 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 20:58 noisytoot nothing now 20:58 yeah i'm shelving it 20:59 -!- dingotron has quit [Client Quit] 20:59 we have more than enough artifacts 21:02 got some good fixes in today tho 21:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:05 EvilHack has ~66 artifacts 21:06 oof 21:06 i dont even wanna think about how many artifacts are in variants like slash'em and dnethack 21:07 at least with evilhack forged artifacts, you're taking 2 or more out to make the one 21:08 compare to ~116 for hackem, ~308 for dNetHack, ~35 for vanilla, ~70 for slash'em, ~163 for slashthem, ~3537 for slex, ~77 for splicehack (this is just grep 'A("' include/artilist.h | wc -l - 1, may include artifacts that can't actually be obtained or are commented out) 21:11 over 3500 in slex lol 21:11 i'm surprised at slash'em number, thought it was more 21:13 in evilhacks artilist.h there are a few commented out (the ones already commented out from vanilla nethack, and a few I commented out when replacing quest artifacts) 21:13 dnh has lots of commented out or impossible to actually get (lots of mastery artifacts and both slashem vecna artifacts at least) 21:14 impossible to get? what's the story behind that? 21:15 vecna exists but isn't actually placed anywhere, mastery artifacts were added but unfinished and never actually made namable 21:15 ah i see 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4600 (0:43:43) 21:17 [hdf-us] [evil] potato (Arc Trt Fem Neu), 1097 points, T:1157, killed by a werewolf 21:31 [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 2036 points, T:3195, burned by molten lava 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Bar Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:417 (0:02:10) 21:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Splunge's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6217 (1:02:44) 21:40 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin opened pull request #141: Lockable and monster-lootable magic chests - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/141 21:40 oh snap 21:41 * K2 is reading 21:41 oh crackle 21:41 aaaaaand pop 21:47 [hdf-us] [evil] knnn (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:2155 (0:15:16) 21:49 ah you found a typo bug in steal.c 21:49 krm26 found it and then we all forgot about it 21:49 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 2176 points, T:4737, killed by a dwarf lady 21:49 heh 21:49 for some reason i was reminded of it when reading your drow/light artifact commit 21:50 nice 21:50 this looks good 21:51 yay! 21:51 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 6 commits to master [+0/-0/±46] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/4aaa75463fce...facaae47a6f8 21:51 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin c40e7c6 - Fix: minor amulet-stealing bug 21:51 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 1464c4a - Magic chests can be locked and unlocked 21:51 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 7a0a2e6 - Merge branch 'k21971:master' into master 21:51 [EvilHack] ... and 3 more commits. 21:52 i'll do the magic key placement tonight/tomorrow 21:52 nice work terrapin, great stuff as always 21:52 thanks! 22:08 this is bad ass 22:10 The hill orc carefully opens the magic chest... The hill orc rummages through the magic chest. 22:11 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:14 aaaah I gave a hill orc a regular skeleton key 22:14 The hill orc unlocks and opens the magic chest... 22:14 i should be able to handle that one 22:16 bleh 22:16 i hope so because i'm confuddled 22:17 i see what you put for monster looting, it looks right 22:21 ah shit i know what it is 22:21 it's a HIDDEN_CHEST 22:21 aaaah 22:21 furniture kludge strikes again 22:22 testing again 22:25 ok that seems to work 22:25 lemme give this orc my magic key 22:26 but, this exposes the other bug i ran into earlier today with bag on ground 22:26 hill orc only has a regular key so it cant open the magic chest, but it wants what is inside, so it's parked on top of it and wont move 22:27 will only move if i get close 22:27 terrapin good catch, MAGIC_CHEST to HIDDEN_CHEST did the trick 22:28 i think that's an oversight of mine in likes_contents() 22:29 i mean if the hill orc can open the chest there will be the same loitering behavior if it can't take anything unless the bag bug (container bug, really) is addressed 22:29 but currently can_unlock in likes_contents() doesn't address HIDDEN_CHESTS 22:29 hmm 22:30 if it can't unlock it it won't like the contents so it won't path to it 22:30 oooh 22:31 i can touch that up while i'm in here 22:31 cool 22:34 oh hey 22:34 can_unlock has a case for mtmp_.iswiz 22:34 mtmp->iswiz 22:35 I might want to move the magic chest in the wiztower :) 22:36 if i recall you put some crystal chests of loot by Rodney to entice the player across the bridge---no better prize than your own stash! :P 22:36 yeah he cant open crystal chests 22:37 lol 22:37 i'll test it before i make another edit in can_unlock 22:38 note that can_unlock in likes_contents is just whether the monster thinks they can unlock it 22:38 the real version is at the MAGIC_CHEST/HIDDEN_CHEST edit 22:39 * K2 nods 22:48 if the monster doesnt have any kind of key, ignores magic chest 22:48 if it has a regular key, it hovers 22:48 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:54914 (8:38:27) 22:55 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:55657 (8:45:36) 22:56 hmm 22:56 testing another thing 23:00 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:55916 (8:50:44) 23:02 ok cool 23:02 no longer hovering over the magic chest with stuff in it 23:02 (locked magic chest) 23:02 and he has a regular key 23:02 was it a gem thing? 23:02 no 23:03 i put this is likes_contents 23:03 + if (container->otyp == HIDDEN_CHEST 23:03 + && container->olocked && !m_carrying(mtmp, MAGIC_KEY)) 23:03 + return FALSE; 23:03 will a magic harp tame monsters through a non-diggable wall? @|J ? 23:03 not sure 23:03 magic harp behavior is unchanged from vanilla, what does the wiki say? 23:04 terrapin I also added a case for magic key in can_unlock 23:04 ah good call 23:07 oh i forgot to compile 23:08 can_unlock = (can_open 23:08 && (((m_carrying(mtmp, SKELETON_KEY) 23:08 || m_carrying(mtmp, LOCK_PICK) 23:08 || m_carrying(mtmp, CREDIT_CARD)) 23:08 && (container->otyp != HIDDEN_CHEST 23:08 || m_carrying(mtmp, MAGIC_KEY))) 23:08 || mtmp->iswiz || is_rider(mtmp->data))); 23:08 seems to work if you want it all in the one place 23:09 because the wizard of yendor is covetous, he doesnt move normally 23:09 he's ignoring the magic chest 23:10 darn 23:11 oh, one more bug: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/facaae47a6f8abe8b987241dbee955309ace307a/src/muse.c#L3551 should have MAGIC_KEYs added 23:11 aaah yes 23:11 will do 23:24 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed bag of holding", on T:12602 (2:40:18) 23:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13013 (2:46:46) 23:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to her by Odin, on T:25965 (9:05:13)