00:04 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 00:07 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:74404 (1 day, 6:22:37) 00:11 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a small shield entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:53989 (12:42:17) 00:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:54019 (12:43:36) 00:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:55032 (13:06:54) 00:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5762 points, T:3853, killed by a dwarven watch captain 00:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:55150 (13:10:39) 00:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a knife entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:55332 (13:15:09) 01:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 78 points, T:28, burned by molten lava 01:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:56106 (13:32:56) 01:17 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:75448 (1 day, 7:32:06) 01:17 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:75450 (1 day, 7:32:21) 01:19 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:75460 (1 day, 7:33:52) 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the giant high priestess of Moloch, on T:75660 (1 day, 7:46:08) 01:32 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:75671 (1 day, 7:46:49) 01:37 go, terrapin 01:37 woo 01:40 damn, you just got 2 turn paralysis :( 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Lucifer, on T:75805 (1 day, 7:58:08) 01:43 hah, go Cloud! 01:44 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Purgatory, on T:75814 (1 day, 7:59:30) 01:50 I didn't know about those celestial dragon eggs :) 01:51 oh shit forgot i had dragonbane :( 01:51 typical 01:52 Best of luck! 01:52 cheers! 01:55 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 01:59 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of hiking boots entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:56293 (14:24:09) 02:04 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:76446 (1 day, 8:19:00) 02:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:15 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:76591 (1 day, 8:30:39) 02:16 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:76592 (1 day, 8:31:00) 02:20 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:76631 (1 day, 8:35:00) 02:20 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the saddled Black Horse, on T:76631 (1 day, 8:35:06) 02:23 \o/ 02:23 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 5915171 points, T:76653, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/terrapin/evilhack/dumplog/1693017617.evil.html 02:23 man i am up way too late 02:23 good night, folks 02:24 good night, o/ 02:30 gg 02:30 and gn 02:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:57129 (14:57:55) 02:52 congrats terrapin! 02:52 already asleep probably :-) 03:05 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 03:09 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:27 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:30 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 03:38 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:06 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 04:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:61090 (16:04:28) 04:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a shield of light entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:62359 (16:25:51) 04:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of cloth gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:62400 (16:27:43) 05:25 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 05:53 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had a leather studded armor entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:60133 (9:45:10) 06:12 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:61404 (10:03:48) 06:26 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:35 Hi aosdict. 06:42 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 06:45 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:45 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 06:46 -!- elenmirie has quit [Client Quit] 06:49 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:64226 (10:40:58) 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:66149 (11:15:18) 07:24 hi 07:24 Hello aosdict, Welcome to #evilhack 07:37 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 07:47 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 07:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of levitation boots entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:68656 (18:33:50) 08:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:61738 (16:19:37) 08:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a stiletto entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:62661 (16:31:48) 08:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a short sword entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:62875 (16:34:51) 08:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:23 well loggers your suggestion about convict skilled thieving from oracle almost led to instadeath, as he noticed, unpeaced, and i still got smashed by his magic missile passive which took like 80% of my 95 hp 08:23 so thanks for that :-| 08:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a dagger entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:65093 (16:57:31) 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:65897 (17:05:09) 08:49 so 14 gifts, every single one a weapon. wtf tymora 08:49 how many arms do you think i have 08:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:66531 (17:10:37) 08:52 damn i can forge armor of retribution but still don't have reflection. i guess that may technically allow me to get past the black dragon blocking me 09:00 terrapin congrats! \o/ 09:01 heya aosdict 09:01 hi everybody 09:01 heh 09:02 happy union day 09:03 my lawn is already mowed. rejoice 09:03 just need to clean up from last night 09:05 i have a section of yard i do not tend where the tortoises roam and the dogs can poop in freedom -- but i have to have work done on a live oak there, tomorrow, so today i have to go out and make it navigable 09:05 we had our annual christmas tree massacre last night as part of the festivities 09:05 it is a morass of elephant grass, sulcata poop, rotting starfruit, partially dug tortoise burrows and dog wallows, half-eaten avocados... 09:06 forgot to do it last summer, so we had 2 trees to burn this year 09:06 oooof star fruit 09:06 it is a pretty tree, and i like star fruit, but there is literally nothing to do with the stuff other than eat it and there is only so much i can handle 09:06 that can get messy 09:06 sadly the tortoises will not eat it 09:07 i give away about two bushels but i'm too lazy to get it all 09:07 make people come to pick them 09:07 they can do all the work 09:08 esp if you're giving them away 09:08 unfortunately like i said it is in the beware, dangerous attack tortoises zone 09:08 ah 09:08 my sulcata will try to eat anybody with red shoes or socks 09:09 i also have a black sapote my wife made me plant because she thought it sounded cool 09:09 that fruit is the WORST THING EVER 09:09 like little bundles of bland poop 09:09 "chocolate pudding fruit" my ass 09:10 ew 09:10 want some? i'll package em up and mail em to you! 09:10 no 09:10 oh wait 09:10 i'll set up one of terrapin's magic chests here, you do the same there... 09:10 heh 09:10 :P 09:11 luckily my avocados are great, my lychee is amazing, and i have pomegranate, jackfruit, key lime, banana, and loquat too 09:11 we have a bunch of honey crisp apples 09:11 trees produced this year for a change 09:11 i miss apples :-( fucking florida. i have a florida peach but it isn't very productive and always rife with vermin 09:12 but, we dont tend the fruit, so they dont look appetizing 09:12 i used to really love crab apples 09:12 bugs get to them, etc 09:13 on an evilhack note, why is the god crap so heavily prejudiced in favor of weapons? 09:13 not sure 09:13 seems like it is maybe an 80/20 split 09:13 which is crazy 09:13 a 20/80 would actually be a lot more tolerable 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:88274 (1 day, 1:19:59) 09:14 garbage armor can let you shuffle things around and maybe get something accomplished a lot more often than garbage weapons 09:14 (non-artifact stuff) 09:20 wouldnt hurt to review the code again 09:24 if (rn2(2)): weapon, else (caster && !rn2(3)): spellbook, else: armor 09:29 certainly doesn't seem like only 50% -- that's how rn2(n) works i assume, [0-n) 09:29 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:38 rn2(n) returns a random number between 0 and n-1, inclusive 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of steel gauntlets entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:69449 (18:06:03) 09:48 yeah, so [0-n) 09:49 or is that not taught in intro to algebra any more? 09:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a steel knife entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:69820 (18:13:29) 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:66744 (12:06:19) 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:66745 (12:06:23) 10:05 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) returned The Iron Ball of Liberation to Robert the Lifer, completing her quest, on T:67261 (12:12:42) 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:71047 (18:33:11) 10:14 reflection! i'm coming for you mr black dragon 10:14 gonna punch you 10:21 soko and mine town magic chests placed 10:21 castle up next 10:33 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:33 must activate them with the blood of a grid bug! 10:34 :) 10:34 castle done. now for some of the side branches 10:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:587 (0:03:18) 10:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1523 points, T:1079, killed by a dingo 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:72319 (19:19:32) 11:29 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:31 hysterical, can't get gauntlets of power to increase my carry but i can make retribution 11:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1188 (0:05:21) 11:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:73711 (19:58:21) 11:41 damn i'm a forge short for retribution 11:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) became literate by reading a book, on T:3017 (0:15:36) 11:53 side branches and quest home levels done 11:53 i think that's it 11:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4674 (0:29:26) 12:05 woot! amazing! 12:05 does that mean people always get a magic chest in their quest? 12:06 what is special about magic chests? 12:06 many chests, same inventory 12:07 minetown chest is gonna make orctown even bettererer than it already is, with a guaranteed coaligned altar 12:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6396 (0:37:58) 12:08 the betterererererererere the better 12:08 :D 12:10 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±26] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/8b21640897b1...d6bbf4c912b7 12:10 [EvilHack] k21971 d6bbf4c - Magic chest placement. 12:10 krm26 yes 12:11 k2, you have warnings :P 12:11 mhitu.c:2079:41: warning: the comparison will always evaluate as ‘true’ for the address of ‘mons’ will never be NULL [-Waddress] 12:11 i dont get that warning 12:11 hmm 12:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:7143 (0:42:13) 12:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Oracle, on T:73992 (20:31:27) 12:12 also 12:12 botl.c: In function ‘parse_status_hl2’: 12:12 botl.c:2238:12: warning: the comparison will always evaluate as ‘true’ for the pointer operand in ‘s + (sizetype)((long unsigned int)sidx * 128)’ must not be NULL [-Waddress] 2238 | while (s[sidx]) { 12:12 oh i see 12:12 but hackem also has it 12:12 i forgot to slap mtmp->data == in front of &mons[PM_GRAZ_ZT] 12:12 \o/ 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed ring of p'hul", on T:74002 (20:32:59) 12:13 wow, i didn't know you could get wishes from oracle fountains...was just trying to uncurse my camera 12:13 what are you compiling with? 12:14 cbus 12:14 clang? 12:14 "not sure" 12:14 I have both clang and gcc 12:14 but I havent set a specific compiler so guessing gcc 12:14 gcc (GCC) 13.2.1 20230801 12:14 using the linux hints 12:14 i'm using gcc ver 11.4.0 12:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:7742 (0:45:32) 12:15 put that mtmp->data == in front of grazzt in that spot in mhitu.c and see if that fixes that warning 12:15 oki 12:17 yeah solves it 12:17 only the botl warning that hackem also has :) 12:18 cool 12:19 huh i'm not sure how to address the warning in botl.c 12:23 I didnt get it when I had a short look last time either 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a splint mail entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:75016 (20:47:00) 12:35 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/d6bbf4c912b7...14c034d7b899 12:35 [EvilHack] k21971 14c034d - Fix: warning: the comparison will always evaluate as ‘true’ for the address of ‘mons’ will never be NULL [-Waddress] (mhitu.c) 12:38 more yard work, bbl 12:45 it looks like s is always fully populated with pointers to pointers to null chars 12:46 (and then some characters are written) 12:47 maybe it should be while(s[sidx][0])? 12:48 s/pointers to pointers to/pointers to 12:53 Do those magic respect AC? 12:53 Like magic missiles and acid blast? 12:53 Can high ac reduce those damage? 12:54 -!- zonnebetel has joined #evilhack 12:54 acid resistance reduces acid damage 12:57 Ah okay. 12:57 i forgot to slap mtmp->data == in front of &mons[PM_GRAZ_ZT] 12:57 dNetHack had a similar bug that reintroduced the astral call bug 12:58 apparently some people didn't get that warning too, which is why it was unfixed for quite a long time 13:00 magical damage will not be reduced by AC 13:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:16924 (1:30:36) 13:03 -!- zonnebetel has quit [Quit: —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 3.5.2.1 (January '19)] 13:05 (xdimsy: apron, yellow scales, dragonbane, ashmar are the acid resist gotos) 13:05 Ah yes, I have dragonbane now. 13:05 So AC cannot protect from magic missile right? 13:05 Then I need more hp. 13:05 once you have mr you can ignore magic missiles 13:05 (except for the oracle's passive, some angel stuff, etc.) 13:06 right. MR, reflection, and half spell damage will all halve it though 13:06 (and they stack) 13:06 I see. 13:07 Typically when to kill Oracle? 13:07 How much HP do I need.. 13:07 @e?Oracle 13:07 Oracle (@) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 0 | Res: sleep poison petrification magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 2d6 cast clerical, 2d6 cast spell, 8d8 passive magic missile | Align: 0 | omnivore, nopoly, infravis 13:07 if you do it at range, you don't need hp. just don't melee him 13:07 Okay. 13:08 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 13:13 AC can prevent some types of magic missiles from hitting you in the first place (wands at least) 13:14 but I don't think it prevents the oracle's magic missiles 13:15 If I have no poisoned projectiles, how to defeat a gray dragon? 13:16 If it engulfs me, will it cancel my armors? 13:16 it only cancels you if you hit it in melee 13:16 Ah that's good news. 13:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:21 congrats on the asc terrapin! 13:21 congrats terrapin! 13:21 !lastgame terrapin 13:21 xdminsy: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/terrapin/evilhack/dumplog/1693017617.evil.html 13:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Eilistraee, on T:102075 (6:55:47) 13:32 thanks, Loggers! 13:32 and xdminsy! 13:32 tourist best role 13:33 they are a lot of fun 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:102212 (6:57:27) 13:34 hm, maybe cursed mlamps shouldn't flicker and die as drow? 13:36 curse magic lamp produce darkness? 13:36 maybe they shouldn't flicker and die at all 13:36 yes 13:36 darkness is useless for other races unless they have shadow dragon scales anyway 13:36 yeah 13:37 actually it's just completely useless for other races 13:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 65816 points, T:21652, withered away 13:37 unless you have shadow dragon scales and are using drow armour/weapons 13:37 rogues and convicts have a minor use for it to help with thievery, but that's pretty niche 13:37 and invisibility is often more convenient 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:102819 (7:04:39) 13:45 Ah speak of Gollum. 13:45 I don't see trap door in my Goblin Town? 13:45 I checked four candidate places. 13:46 there's five 13:46 Ha :P 13:46 it can be in one of five places: a few squares to the right and up from the magic portal, just to the left of the goblin king's throne room, and in any of the prison cells 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:80310 (22:06:06) 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create the Armor of Retribution, on T:80402 (22:06:42) 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1488 (0:31:08) 13:47 Oh I see that there's one in north cell. 13:50 well that solves my no-gauntlets-of-power problem 13:51 wait, does aor provide giant strength 13:51 *? 13:52 or just carry cap 13:52 25 Con 13:53 ok 13:53 kicked me from 600 max to 1125 max 13:53 it adds 200 carry in addition to the con bonus 13:56 since silver weapons are heavier than normal they should get a whack bonus 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:73348 (15:06:50) 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:106276 (7:23:32) 14:00 aaaand there it is 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:106321 (7:24:10) 14:01 If I go fight Vecna, should I prepare some scrolls of remove curse? 14:01 @e?Vecna 14:01 Vecna (L) | Lvl: 99 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 8d6 touch cold, 6d6 touch wither, 3d4 gaze Death, 4d6 cast spell, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous 14:02 Ah gaze Death, if I don't blind myself I'd die instantly? 14:02 you will get items cursed in vecna's domain since there's so many spellcasters 14:02 if you're magic resistant he just drains max HP 14:02 but you can put a towel on and it will be harmless 14:02 Okay I see. 14:03 vecna has a lot of HP so usually you can't kill him before he gets to the stairs 14:03 Yes and I have poor weapons, maybe I should avoid vecna? 14:04 I think you are too early in the game to go to vecna 14:04 you should do the ice queen first 14:04 what weapons do you have? 14:05 +7 luckblade and +6 stormy. 14:05 Ah yes, I'm doing castle and later kathryn. 14:06 those are bad weapons to fight kathryn with 14:06 she is drain resistant 14:06 you can do it if you have a potion of full healing or two, probably 14:07 Ah okay, I have one fire horn, I could charge it. 14:07 yay, both HotG and SoA went to +7 14:07 she might have reflection 14:07 better to use scrolls of fire 14:07 Ah bad news. 14:08 Okay I have 2. 14:08 Go to the Castle first and use the / of wishing for a MM to write ? of fire 14:09 Ah I see, it's so cheap to write. 14:09 I have a marker now. 14:14 terrapin congrats on your early morning asc \o/ 14:15 krm26 hi 14:15 krm26 14:16 me trying to get krm26's attention - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOLxQGLJouI 14:17 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:19 heh hi 14:20 :P 14:20 you haven't called me mom yet 14:20 did you mention something earlier about making the convict quest artifact the striped shirt instead of the ball&chain? 14:20 MOM 14:20 yes i did 14:20 ok 14:21 that sounds interesting 14:21 perhaps the greatest singular idea to ever coalesce 14:21 also sorry for almost getting you killed by the oracle krm26 :( 14:21 plus you could make it a 100% perfect #wipe thing taking 0 rounds 14:21 i survived loggers, you just ALMOST killed me 14:21 just like i like it 14:22 i have... an idea 14:22 anyone else hear ominous music play when k2 typed that? 14:22 an Idea™ 14:22 yeah death star music 14:22 where did that organ music come from 14:25 heh, cleaver on ice queen level 1 14:26 hax 14:26 I got the 0:3 wishing wand. 14:26 cleaver should cut down trees in an arc 14:27 Sounds great :P 14:28 probably smop 14:31 Is magical breathing important? 14:32 Could I use one sea dragon scaled armor? 14:32 it's useful but not a must have 14:32 it does allow you to not worry about various engulfers 14:32 it depends. what are you wearing for armor 14:33 Which engulfers may instakill me? 14:33 none instakill 14:33 well, they do, but not instantly :) 14:33 you have timed death from digestion or suffocation, depending 14:33 you can suffocate inside gelcubes and sea dragons 14:34 water elementals, sea dragons, gel cube suffocation prevented by breathing 14:34 and if you have magical breathing you obviously don't have to worry about drowing hugs from pythons, krakens, eels, etc. 14:34 if engulfed by antimatter only use dragonbane or soa to hit them, or spells 14:34 @e? krm26 14:34 No such monster. 14:34 booo 14:34 @e?k2 14:34 k2 ~2~ Kas (V) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 16 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical, 1d12 bite level drain | Align: -10 | flies, breathless, regen, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, silverhate, infravis 14:34 hah 14:34 krm26 hits you with a blizzard of words! 14:34 Lol. 14:34 @e?antimatter 14:34 No such monster. 14:34 @e?antimatter vortex 14:34 antimatter vortex (v) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d10 engulf disintegrate, 0d0 passive disintegrate | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, unsolid, infravis, passes-bars, vegan 14:35 remember that even if you have intrinsic or extrinsic breathing salamanders in lava are still happy to kill you if you aren't wearing an oilskin cloak 14:35 Ah that's dangerous. 14:36 if you put a stop message in your rcfile about "wraps its arms around you" you won't ever die to them 14:36 unless you get paralyzed or something 14:36 well, you won't ever die to them UNKNOWINGLY 14:37 i practice non-adjacency with salamanders in lava, vorpal jabberwocks, and player monsters once i have the amulet 14:37 you can just carry bugle and toot it when they do the thing 14:37 it is possible for them to resist that 14:37 really? 14:37 unless your bugle is actually gjallar 14:37 @e?slamander 14:37 slamander ~1~ salamander (:) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire sleep | Confer: fire | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -1 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical, 1d6 touch fire, 3d6 hug fire, 2d6 hug wrap | Align: -9 | thick hide, poisonous, stalker, infravis, passes-bars 14:37 mr is 0 14:38 i think there is still a fear resist chance isn't there? maybe i should look at the code 14:38 Maybe, bugle seems not working 100% of the time. 14:38 My speed boots got rusts into dust.. 14:38 hm, I thought it was just MR that got taken into account 14:38 I think I should wish one speed armor, helm or boots prefered? 14:39 helm is better since there's no other really good helms 14:39 frees up your feet for jesus boots or jumping 14:39 emmm what's jesus boots. 14:39 water walking 14:40 How about oilskin helm and speed boots? 14:41 loggers, has nothing to do with mr 14:41 huh, what's the check? 14:41 looks like !rn2(5) 14:41 xdminsy oilskin helm is not really that necessary 14:41 so 80% success 14:44 wiki says monsters are scared if their distance to you is at most 3.16 times the root of your level, and if they fail their magic saving throw 14:45 Ah really, then how to deal with alhoon typically? 14:45 just use grease 14:45 you only usually have to fight one or two before you can genocide them anyway 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:84151 (23:05:21) 14:46 Ah, but my local one that I do have grease and -35 AC, it still nearly kill me.. 14:46 I'm not sure how they work :P 14:46 That time I just thought my AC and grease seems cannot protect me.. 14:47 they only have one tentacle attack, so if you have one layer of grease then they can never eat your brain, if you're at least as fast as them 14:47 @e?alhoon 14:47 alhoon (h) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -6 | Atk: 1d10 weapon physical, 5d6 touch cold, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -15 | genocidable, flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, poisonous, covetous, infravis 14:48 Ah seems right, I'd try a bit in wizard mode. 14:48 terrapin your suggestion for botl.c - while (s[sidx][0]) - correct 14:48 hm, actually they have two tentacle attacks, so if you get unlucky they can get you through grease 14:48 vanilla nethack did same thing 14:49 nice 14:49 that was the only other warning I had when building 14:51 I think maybe that time I don't have speed :P 14:53 cbus same 14:53 i upgraded to gcc 13 on my wizmode box 14:54 (I build on fully updated manjaro that I use as my desktop) 14:55 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/14c034d7b899...4b9faf8318bf 14:56 [EvilHack] k21971 4b9faf8 - Fix: warning: the comparison will always evaluate as ‘true’ for the pointer operand in ‘s + (sizetype)((long unsigned int)sidx * 128)’ must not be NULL [-Waddress] (botl.c) 14:56 thanks, k2! 14:56 \o/ 14:56 don't use dragonbane vs. antimatter vortices---it only resists disintegration via black dragon 14:56 ^ this 14:57 i don't see a !rn2(5) anywhere---i think Loggers is correct that it only depends on MR? 14:57 brb 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) genocided gray dragons, on T:109825 (8:12:33) 15:03 oh there's a !rn2(5) for gjallar stunning adjacent monsters (20%) 15:12 my kingdom for a ring of free action 15:12 my kingdom, dammit!! 15:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:110843 (8:23:11) 15:13 i am frequently wrong when i take 10 seconds to try to find something in github's web interface so i'm probably wrong again terrapin 15:13 yeah, looks like i may have been accidentally inside the ART_GJALLAR if 15:13 for the stun check 15:13 i should really just use my local repo with studio code but i am so massively lazy 15:14 github's interface is just the worst 15:18 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:18 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 15:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:111244 (8:29:11) 15:19 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:24 oops 15:25 I accidentally just threw the sword of annihilation on my head and it disintegrated my armor :( 15:25 now I have no MR, and gray dragons are genocided 15:25 probably I have an amulet 15:26 D: 15:27 i doubt i'll ever have a 100,000+ turn game because i would do something like that at least a half-dozen times if given the time 15:28 it would be funny though 15:29 lol Loggers_VIII 15:29 only you 15:29 why... WHY were you throwing the SoA above your head? 15:30 usually when I drain myself for protection I like to have stormbringer adjusted to 'a' but I adjust my main weapon to 'a' and soa is my main weapon 15:30 and I forgot to adjust stormbringer to a 15:30 heh 15:30 this is actually the third time I've done this 15:30 one day I will learn my lesson 15:30 :) 15:31 on the plus side, I gained ~100 MHP when I regained my levels with 25 con :) 15:34 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:43 I've been playing too damn long to not have free action :( 15:46 'lo 15:47 wazzup 15:50 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:75149 (16:42:12) 15:52 hey K2, just noticed you can evaporate the SoA via overenchanting---bug or feature? (AoR is immune to this) 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:114426 (9:02:31) 15:53 oversight 15:54 it should evap 15:54 *shouldnt 15:54 it should NOT evaporate 15:54 I have been putting off inventory management for the last four hours of gameplay and I think it finally caught up to me 15:56 Why my St always get lowered? 15:56 for what purpose am I carrying 38 potions of holy water 15:57 *48 15:59 You can bless darts one by one :P. 16:00 You take poison damage lately? 16:01 Could also be constant Str abuse 16:02 Maybe abuse, but don't know exactly why. 16:02 Hardly seen this in 3.7 I think :P 16:02 follow Loggers example---carting around 48 potions of holy water is great exercise! 16:03 could be anything, really 16:03 lol terrapin 16:03 oh, and my 17 blessed diluted potions of full healing. don't forget those 16:03 jeez! 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:114637 (9:12:40) 16:05 Getting caught in explosions abuses strength quite a bit 16:05 and it might not even be severe abuse per se, just that you got dinged and there wasn't enough exercise to counter it 16:05 Okay I see. 16:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:27 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:28 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:34 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:50 Is medusa's island also a graveyard? 16:52 No, shouldn't be 16:53 I see, maybe just bad luck that first severeal wraiths don't drop corpses. 16:54 yeah it's like that sometimes 16:55 Ha I see here a statue of a dark elven knight named krm26. 17:07 -!- mobileuser has quit [*.net *.split] 17:10 hot take: SoA should have accuracy/damage bonuses of +0/+1d5 or thereabouts instead of +1d5/+1d12 so it's less of a "superweapon" (-3/-3.5 on average) 17:10 especially since immunity to evaporation means +9 is super achievable and higher is doable if you're willing to polypile for scrolls 17:14 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:81172 (18:15:43) 17:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:33 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:81539 (18:22:10) 17:35 xdimsy: i have been turned into quite a number of statues 17:41 Lol, I see that name of statues in Medusa's room are picked from top-ten list. 17:41 Not really need to be stoned :P 17:41 omg finally I have free action :) 17:41 huh, maybe I should get on the top 10 list 17:43 Maybe I'd see your statue next time. 17:43 nah I do not have the patience to get on the top ten list 17:44 top 10 score? isn't that like 9 bouquets and 1 carlarc? 17:44 you too, apparently 17:45 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:48 crazy talk 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:116117 (9:36:05) 17:50 Nah, or maybe 10 unqiue names? 17:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:54 huh, "You feel the spirits holding you back." never seen that one 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 423 points, T:765, killed by a crossbow bolt 17:56 yay, vecna had a marker :) 17:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:116626 (9:43:04) 17:57 gimme that hand 17:58 good luck! 17:58 haha yes giant strength 17:58 now I can dual wield hotg+soa 17:59 Loggers_VIII, you get that from hurtling that would've put you off the map 17:59 I've done it as a giant throwing a boulder while levitating 17:59 yeah I thought that was a fun message 18:00 I now have a total of 273 usable ink charges... one man should not hold this power 18:01 Wish more bro. 18:02 I would if I could 18:02 oh I almost forgot 18:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:116802 (9:47:47) 18:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:116803 (9:47:48) 18:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:116804 (9:47:50) 18:08 now I have 502 HP and -60 HP :) 18:08 this is the tankiest I've ever been 18:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:118295 (9:55:30) 18:12 *502 HP and -60 AC dammit 18:15 farm those demon princes 18:15 Your drow has so much hp. 18:16 I can thank ogresmasher for that 18:16 -60 HP is even worse than 106 AC 18:16 hahahahaha 18:17 listen someday I'll type AC and HP correctly 18:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:118633 (10:00:31) 18:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:118796 (10:02:41) 18:25 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 18:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:119230 (10:07:58) 18:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:119235 (10:08:13) 18:27 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:29 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:84260 (19:17:53) 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 110 points, T:824, killed by a small mimic 18:57 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:87951 (19:46:01) 18:57 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:02 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:89014 (19:57:44) 19:09 illithid hp growth sucks :(. For 3 levels I got 1HP increase. 19:11 Sounds even worse than a drow. 19:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to her by Tymora, on T:72786 (20:08:11) 19:14 ithilid convict? i just made retribution for mine, so nice 19:15 I'm just about to do that. No half damage, and poor hp sucks. 19:15 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 1058292 points, T:89362, killed while stuck in creature form 19:15 Lol... 19:16 What am I doing :P 19:16 oh NO :( 19:16 !lastgame 19:16 terrapin: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xdminsy/evilhack/dumplog/1693686316.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1693841382.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1692094307.evil.html 19:16 Lol hardly polyself, just have a try and forget that unchanging will make me die. 19:17 oh no xdminsy! 19:17 No matter :O 19:17 that is a GREAT level 17 bones you've left for someone 19:18 what happened 19:18 I'm not sure, I disabled bones, may not leave bones? 19:18 I died very silly:P 19:19 Haha, not a big deal :O 19:19 bones are one of the things that makes hardfought an adventure! gotta use bones! 19:20 Maybe yes, in vanilla just for purity. 19:20 i don't use bones much. evilhack is enough of an adventure already :) 19:20 But it's just like a plain player monsters drop in evilhack lol. 19:22 it's your call if you use bones or not 19:22 though, I don't think disabling bones in rcfiles affects your ability to leave bones for someone else 19:23 I'm not sure, in local I found that disabling bones will just disable generating bones file. 19:24 Maybe it's different in server. 19:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:72952 (20:19:41) 19:24 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 37 points, T:159, killed by a jackal 19:24 Well, yeah, because you're the only one playing on your local machine 19:25 So you won't see bones unless you have Hearse 19:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:73034 (20:20:48) 19:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create the Armor of Retribution, on T:73123 (20:21:23) 19:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:73262 (20:24:44) 19:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:32  !lastgame xdminsy 19:32 hmm 19:33 that netsplit may have messed with the bot 19:33 !who 19:33 K2: [hdf-us] Splunge [evil] xdminsy [evil] :: [hdf-eu] k3ut0i [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 559 points, T:1431, killed by Gollum 19:33 !lastgame xdminsy 19:33 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xdminsy/evilhack/dumplog/1693869718.evil.html 19:33 weird 19:33 I polymorphed into a dwarf king, and wearing amulet of unchanging lol. 19:33 Died with 24 hp. 19:33 Lol. 19:33 accidentally put a space in the start of my message 19:33 oh hah 19:33 :( 19:33 Loggers_VIII i got somethin for ya 19:33 keep an eye out 19:33 oh? 19:34 call me Sauron because I am always watching 19:36 I think I need to play something easy and op. 19:36 Maybe neutral human wizard. 19:36 you can play illithid wizard, those are even better spell casters than human wizard 19:37 or a dark knight, those get Dirge early 19:37 Cen-Kni if you wanna breeze through end game. 19:37 I think I'd play wizard, farm and polypile a lot. 19:37 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 19:38 And maybe later game i don't wanna farm anymore :P 19:38 Farming is a bit so boring :( 19:38 Esp I died :O 19:38 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±10] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/4b9faf8318bf...142bb24508fc 19:39 [EvilHack] k21971 142bb24 - Change Convict quest artifact from an iron ball to a striped shirt. 19:39 wat 19:39 Thats awesome 19:39 ! 19:39 What? That's huge buff. 19:39 Will that be in next version? 19:40 yes 19:40 check this out though - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/142bb24508fcc7727259b803a8b1ecf4c60c57b9#diff-b5ed1d85c152237c6cdf06158657b59f60443b03d6f28c74350aaa2b6f8e22f0R338-R340 19:40 Cool \o/ :) 19:40 heh 19:41 Well, by the time we get to the quest it wont be too much of a hassle. 19:41 Isn't it dragonhide lol :P 19:41 no :) 19:41 Will invoking the shirt still punish. 19:41 ? 19:41 no 19:41 Spicy! 19:41 And then, it seems an awesome chaotic wish. 19:41 What will warden fight with? 19:42 when you come back with the quest artifact and talk to your quest leader, if he asks for you to hand it over and you dont, he punishes you :P 19:42 warden doesn't use the iron ball to fight with anyway 19:42 Two artifacts with mr in chaotic? 19:42 and one's a shirt! 19:42 the warden will put the shirt on if you give her enough time to do so 19:42 Hmm, I thought 1d25 was ball. 19:42 Can rodney steal that worn shirt directly :P 19:43 yup 19:43 its a quest artifact 19:45 @e?Warden Ariana 19:45 Warden Ariana ~1~ Warden Arianna (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 25 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 40 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 1d25 weapon physical, 1d25 weapon physical, 1d6 claw amulet steal | Align: -14 | omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 19:45 That's just her base weapon dice 19:45 Wait, two mr? I don't remember another chaotic quest artifact has MR? 19:45 the Ring og P'hul 19:45 *of 19:45 barbarian quest artifact 19:45 Ah I see, haven't play that. 19:46 Great wish if you can deal with Pelias 19:46 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:47 It seems the striped shirt is greater, we can wish that next time. 19:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:48 can't wait to skip the entire new wiz tower with phasing from shirt 19:48 Ring of P'Hul is free action + MR 19:48 + sickness res 19:48 phasing from shirt should be convict-specific 19:48 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49 that's not a bad idea 19:49 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 19:49 Also bold of you to assume the Tower isn't phase proofed 19:49 hm, this means that this run might be my last chance to use the iron ball of liberation to kill angels on astral 19:49 Convicts don't have multishot with anything right? 19:49 it'll be its own branch iirc so moot point anyway 19:50 multishot bonus* 19:50 If everybody can use it to phase. 19:50 Maybe chaotic centuarian monk to phase jump? 19:51 It's sounds very powerful :P 19:51 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 19:52 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "cursed figurine of a neothelid named Loggers' Trick", on T:119389 (10:16:00) 19:56 @e?neothelid 19:56 neothelid (w) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: acid | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: special | AC: 2 | Atk: 6d6 breath acid, 2d4 tentacle physical, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 6d6 engulf digest | Align: -8 | carnivore, swims, nopoly 19:56 Does phase jumping work in evilhack? 19:57 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.0.2] 19:57 ahhhh that's too many tentacle drains! 19:57 is 'ART_STRIPED_SHIRT_OF_LIBERATIO' a typo, or language quirk? 19:58 It seems you tricked yourself 19:59 that's 24 points of int drain damage 19:59 that could have been very bad very quickly 19:59 enough to kill anyone in one round unless you have sustain ability 19:59 "You kill Loggers' Trick!" 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Quit: client quit] 20:00 50% chance for one of those in the new wiz tower btw 20:00 scary motherfuckers 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 20:00 that's worse than a vorpal jabberwock 20:01 I'm inclined to agree 20:01 pretty cool, though 20:01 ungenocidable too 20:02 incredibly rare, though 20:02 (outside of wiztower) 20:02 there's only been one randomly encountered ever afaik 20:02 too high difficulty 20:02 @e?archon 20:02 Archon (A) | Lvl: 19 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 16 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison magic | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: dungeons | AC: -6 | Atk: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 2d6 gaze blind, 1d8 claw physical, 4d6 cast spell | Align: 15 | flies, regen, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 20:03 naturally, encountered, I should say. they don't spawn randomly 20:03 @l?solar 20:03 Solar (A) | Lvl: 39 | Diff: 49 | Spd: 16 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: dungeons | AC: -10 | Atk: 5d4 weapon physical, 5d4 weapon physical, 5d6 gaze blind, 5d8 claw physical, 5d6 cast spell | Align: 15 | flies, regen, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 20:03 they only spawn with a small chance in mind flayer nurseries. which are already rare 20:03 does that respect difficulty? 20:04 I don't think so, because otherwise they just wouldn't spawn ever 20:05 also k2, shouldn't they be the same color as mind flayers? currently they share a color with purple worms, which is a bit confusing 20:06 my shambling horror has: butt confuse. Lol 20:06 mine just has 6d6 bite tele lol 20:07 is 'ART_STRIPED_SHIRT_OF_LIBERATIO' a typo, or language quirk? <--- not a typo, I hit some sort of char length limit for objects 20:08 Loggers_VIII - neothelids share color with purple worms on purpose. have fun 20:08 K2: Oh, just asked cause I sometimes get typos that still work when I do s///. 20:09 gotcha 20:09 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 20:09 on purpose? you evil man 20:09 yeah it wouldnt compile at first, checked include/onames.h and it was shorted by one 20:10 *shortened 20:10 I'll never look at a damn purple worm the same again 20:10 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin opened pull request #138: A few more minor bugs - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/138 20:11 phase jumping? dunno never tried it 20:11 it should work 20:11 probably doesn't work if you can't see wear to land? 20:11 yeah 20:11 Why wont the game ever give me grimtooth :( I farmed for it nearly all my last chaotic games. 20:12 oh wow props to xdminsy, it totally does work with astral vision. wild 20:13 k3ut0i it won't if you're elf/drow 20:13 (even if you polymorph) 20:14 terrapin what works? 20:14 i'm still uncertain you can get grimtooth as illithid 20:14 k2 phase jumping 20:15 krm26: What? We illithids have no problem with orcs. 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:122225 (10:36:28) 20:16 eat shit demo 20:17 heh 20:17 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 20:18 hammer of the gods+sword of annihilation is SO. GOOD. doing 80+ damage a turn to demons/undead 20:19 also that neothelid had more hp than demogorgon lol 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a shambling horror), on T:44063 (19:39:34) 20:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 694 points, T:977, killed by a giant bat 20:21 whoa what happened there dbanethacker 20:22 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:22 Loggers_VIII you encountered a neothelid in the wild? mind flayer nursery? 20:22 no I wished for a figurine of one 20:22 wtf is a neothelid 20:22 https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Neothelid 20:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "cursed figurine of a neothelid named Loggers' Trick", on T:119389 (10:16:00) 20:23 ahh i missed that 20:23 I got cocky and almost got my brain eaten 20:23 :) 20:23 sounds like a mindflayer dragon. 20:23 i dont think anyone has encountered one in the wild yet 20:23 super rare 20:24 i may tone down the % chance of encounting on in wiz tower 20:24 dbanethacker did 20:24 *encountering 20:24 no keep it 50% I think that's cool 20:24 oh he did? 20:24 \o/ 20:24 yeah. killed it from range with boulders, I think 20:24 smart 20:24 Yeah, lucky 20:25 I was a giant Valk and had a dozen or so boulders on me and that did the trick. 20:25 I hit it with a potion of paralysis and it woke up one turn later and ate 8 points of int off me :) 20:25 Ouch 20:25 dbanethacker: what are your shambling horror stats? 20:26 No idea - I had to get away from it - burned a " of LS before it released me. 20:26 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:26 I couldn't hit it with Mojo or a / of anything except cancellation 20:26 damn 20:28 My skill in hammer is Skilled, not Expert, so I'm wondering if that was why I couldn't touch it. 20:29 I have  +1 = of increase accuracy - maybe I can put it on and see if it helps if he gets me on the way out. 20:30 try zapping it with any attack wands you have, maybe 20:31 I tried that - lightning - death - none hit it. 20:31 I will try magic missile from a distance, perhaps. 20:31 or throwing Mojo, possibly 20:33 sounds like it just has a ton of AC 20:33 what attacks has it used? 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:122964 (10:53:41) 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:122965 (10:53:42) 20:36 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:37 No attacks - just bit me to death. 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:123129 (10:55:09) 20:38 quick discussion question for all - if it's a new moon but you have a blessed luckstone and you can check/validate that you are extremely lucky, with extra luck, how is that different than when you have the same stuff/situation during a full moon? 20:39 new moon doesn't affect luck 20:39 only friday the 13th does 20:39 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:4897 (0:43:09) 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the giant high priestess of Moloch, on T:123315 (10:57:58) 20:41 Ok, valid point.  Anything else?  It seems like a new moon means that more bad monsters can more easily come and kill ya. 20:42 new moon just makes cockatrices more deadly, that's it 20:42 there's a lot of misconceptions about it 20:43 hm, where's the amulet? 20:43 perhaps lolth has it 20:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:123367 (10:59:37) 20:43 ah, yup 20:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:123369 (10:59:43) 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 scrolls of genocide", on T:44540 (20:02:51) 20:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:123441 (11:02:32) 20:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:123453 (11:02:47) 20:46 loggers go go go 20:47 Hmmm, I wished for 2 scrolls of genocide and they came to me cursed.   My first reading of it was to get rid of gelatinous cubes, not knowing they were cursed, alas ! 20:47 your lamp is off loggers if you care 20:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:44584 (20:07:20) 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Saint Michael, on T:123578 (11:05:14) 20:49 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/142bb24508fc...c7d989e05ca1 20:49 [EvilHack] k21971 c7d989e - Tweaks to the new Convict quest artifact. 20:49 You have to specify uncursed lmao 20:49 yeah I noticed 20:49 ^ reel it back in a bit 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:44586 (20:08:29) 20:50 That's still pretty good 20:51 heh it looks like you aren't even paying attention to rodney showing up 20:53 terrapin, nice PR 20:53 thanks 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:124328 (11:10:19) 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:124343 (11:10:43) 20:54 yeah I'm not too concerned about rodney 20:55 some asshole un-cursed my lamp but I'll just switch to angelslayer 20:56 Best of luck 20:56 lol I forgot where the portal was 20:57 ooh are there shadow scales? 20:57 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:57 yup 21:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:124672 (11:16:28) 21:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the White Horse, on T:124673 (11:16:30) 21:00 i only have 1 minute left before i need to put my daughter to bed but i don't think it will be a problem for loggers to finish in that time 21:00 lol 21:01 he's somehow always faster than i remember 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:124742 (11:17:36) 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:124746 (11:17:39) 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful woolly mammoth, on T:124759 (11:17:47) 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha), 5525052 points, T:124765, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1693689605.evil.html 21:01 \o/ 21:01 grats loggers 21:02 thanks 21:02 and I thought this would have to wait until tomorrow 21:02 woop 21:02 the ascension run feels so much longer than it is 21:04 hah I just realized: "i only have 1 minute left before i need to put my daughter to bed but i don't think it will be a problem for loggers to finish in that time". it actually was exactly one minute later, 20:00:29-20:01:29 21:04 well, close to that anyway 21:05 !who 21:05 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] Splunge [evil] xialg1 [evil] xdminsy [evil] :: [hdf-eu] k3ut0i [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 21:05 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 21:06 that was kinda fast 21:06 I only quaffed a single full healing potion out of my 17 21:07 maybe I should have quaffed them for max hp... 21:07 nahhhhhh 21:07 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:08 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 4 commits to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/c7d989e05ca1...b7185ff40bf8 21:08 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 9902d22 - Make some artifacts more indestructible 21:08 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 2990645 - Spear traps hit monster's steeds 21:08 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 57dbebe - Fix: Offhand artifact intrinsics 21:08 [EvilHack] k21971 b7185ff - Merge pull request #138 from saltwaterterrapin/minor-bugs 21:09 !tell Loggers_VIII took you long enough >:C 21:09 No worries, Umbire, I've got this! 21:09 !tell Loggers_VIII <3 21:09 I'm on it, Umbire. 21:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 21:10 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:11 only seeing the striped shirt of liberation changes now; kind of funny that the shirt of “liberation” restricts your shirt slot, lol 21:11 Loggers_VIII: Message from Umbire at 2023-09-04 21:09 EDT: took you long enough >:C 21:11 Loggers_VIII: Message from Umbire at 2023-09-04 21:09 EDT: <3 21:11 pfft 21:11 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/b7185ff40bf8...89f0f7768811 21:11 you threw too many ascendable games man 21:11 [EvilHack] k21971 89f0f77 - Update changelog (PR # 138). 21:11 I want you to succeed 21:12 and if you fucked this one up I was gonna attack you 21:12 brb 21:12 lol 21:12 I did throw a lot of games, didn’t I 21:12 well, that was fun. Time to never play drow convict ever again 21:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:20 congrats! 21:23 lol loggers 21:25 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:10224 (1:27:58) 21:48 Well, the problem is where to get AC :P 21:48 I with my 1 AC go down dl7 and found a lawful altar. 21:48 I don't think my 1AC and xp8 can beat sokoban.. 21:51 Not with that attitude. 21:51 /s 22:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1980 points, T:2940, killed by the Goblin King 22:00 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 22:04 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:24 having neothelids the same colour as purple worms intentionally just so you have to farlook purple w is stupid 22:30 Noisytoot, if you'd like to provide some constructive feedback, go for it. you cross that line where you just want to sling insults or get nasty, feel free to see yourself out 22:33 for starters baby purple worms also share the glyph, farlooking stuff ahead of you in general's just wiser to do anyway 22:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 22:38 One tip is that using the menu mode in farlook and highlight some monsters. 22:40 re: neothelid glyph 22:40 1) the bright pink color looks cooler 22:40 2) it's incredibly obvious when a neothelid exists. if you luck into one in the main dungeon, you'll likely see it without having to put a blindfold on because they have telepathy, and the mind flayers on the level will also tip you off. this is also at a point where purple worms are very unlikely to spawn randomly, so there's that. and then the 22:40 only other place you see neothelids is in the wiztower, where you'll be on the lookout for it anyway, so having it share a glyph with purple worms doesn't actually provide any interesting gameplay/challenge. 22:41 tl;dr: you're going to know if it's a neothelid or a purple worm in pretty much every scenario anyway so I think cosmetics should be first priority 22:42 and the pink color is cool :) 22:44 https://ibb.co/pbMbCrD 22:44 Do you guys do this :P 22:45 no lol 22:45 Ah yes I hardly move cursor to monsters, I just list them and check if there's red ones or boss. 22:46 I don't really move cursor to monsters either 22:46 Especially useful in sanctum or votd when I used to check where's the incubus or balrog :P 22:47 I just hit the monsters and then when it tells me what it is in the messages I know :) 22:47 I tend to / then / because sometimes I forget exact stats 22:47 though I have been described as "a little tiny bit reckless" before 22:47 Loggers_VIII: congrats \o/ 22:47 thanks k3ut0i :) 22:48 and good luck with your own convict~ 22:48 *! 22:49 I should do one neutral convict maybe :P 22:49 https://ibb.co/LRZzTdH 22:50 If I could convert that altar on dl7 I'd be far easy this game. 22:51 if you do neutral dro con then three different people will have each first-to-ascend alignment on nethackscoreboard, which would be quite impressive 22:51 Loggers you may be reckless while I'm tend to be very mindles. 22:51 it's not fun if I'm not reckless 22:52 I just wanna kill shit 22:52 I'm reckless :P 22:52 I died 2 seemingly good con dro game :( 22:53 I have died like 20 seemingly good con dro games so that's still a lot better than me :P 22:53 Lol that's many. 22:53 watch your wraith corpses around this guy 22:54 I might try and get a neutral one soon. then I can have ascended all the alignments 22:54 umbire you're never going to let me forget that are you 22:54 I will 22:54 yay 22:54 but it's funny to hold over you in the meantime 22:54 :3 22:54 lol 22:55 Remember that I haven't seen a wild temple in evilhack? 22:56 Am I just unlucky or those are removed? 22:56 I see them often enough, you're just unlucky 22:56 Nah okay. 22:59 just typical variant paranoia 23:02 Lol maybe, I haven't play enough games. 23:03 Noisytoot why are you even in this channel? as far as I can tell, you've never played evilhack online. i doubt you've even taken the time to compile a local copy 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 5617 points, T:3801, killed by a giant mosquito 23:04 oi, k2. chill out a bit 23:05 feck brb 23:05 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Inf Ith Fem Una), 9992 points, T:6163, killed by a chameleon imitating a hell hound 23:05 it's a legit question. no contributions really, no skin in the game... just shit attitude most of the time 23:07 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 23:08 seriously, i get you feel the need to defend your work, but you're being needlessly adversarial 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a nightmare, on T:18048 (3:11:55) 23:09 99% of noisytoot's message history is the most inoffensive, neutral attitude you could take 23:09 just because he said "purple worms and neothelids sharing a glyph is stupid" doesn't mean he's trying to shit on your variant 23:10 perhaps 23:10 they just rub me the wrong way i guess 23:11 I get it. but this is not a hill worth dying on 23:11 A frost giant cast wand of polymorph at me, cry. 23:12 My +2 bone crude chain mail provides totally 6 AC. 23:14 I gotta get to bed, night all 23:14 bone mail is good 23:14 night Logs 23:14 night o/ 23:14 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:14 and K2 I 110% sympathize but loggers does have a bit of a point 23:14 Ah yes, and be polyrmophed into a nightmare break it. 23:15 well hopefully you can move fast enough to weave out of wand range until you can get close 23:16 My gargantuan spider is much stronger than me. 23:16 now it turns into a xorn, maybe stronger, but I think the webs can protect me better. 23:17 Yeah, without that armor I have only 0 AC. 23:17 @e?gargantuan spider 23:17 gargantuan spider (s) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 15 | Res: poison | Confer: poison | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 4 | Atk: 2d6 bite drain str, 0d0 touch webs | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, oviparous, poisonous 23:17 xorn's way stronger imo but I do appreciate you making tactical use of the webs 23:18 xorns are a real dark horse 23:19 they lull you into a false sense of security with their 1d3 attacks and then WHAM! 4d6 bite 23:19 sup 23:20 hi bouquet 23:21 yes, it's a bit struggling now, my Oracle is at level 9 and I'm already level 10, with AC 0... 23:22 hi bouquet 23:22 The xorn and me, always miss a giant turtle. :P 23:22 Hi bouquet :) 23:24 Giant turtles are p. hard to hit generally 23:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] k3ut0i (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:75284 (22:34:25) 23:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven bracer entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:66011 (13:42:13) 23:33 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Ran Gno Fem Cha), 389 points, T:1033, killed by a bolt of cold 23:33 blah 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a bone javelin entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:66567 (13:48:56) 23:37 does anyone even use a javelin? ever? 23:37 will bouquet be the first? 23:38 i forged a silver frost javelin as an arc once 23:38 lost it in vlad's cavern when a weredemon bit me :( 23:39 then i realized tridents are better in every way and never looked back 23:39 I threw it at a straw golem 23:39 needle in a haystack 23:39 you could say he got "boned" 23:40 heh 23:40 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a stone javelin entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:66961 (13:53:36) 23:41 omg 23:41 LOLth 23:41 terrapin's dad joke was better 23:42 I'm lvl 15 on dlvl 20, shouldn't I get better sac gifts? 23:42 pretty sure boning is what makes dads 23:42 you're at like 30% artifacts, i think 23:43 it's all dependent on your XL and it ramps up pretty slowly 23:43 I got dragonbane which was nice. 23:43 otherwise just ogresmasher 23:44 terrapin maybe you could add one autopickup rules in game. 23:44 that's...a mixed bag for sure 23:44 Maybe just trident, and then walk onto every pile. 23:45 * terrapin takes notes 23:45 new conduct: you can only carry tridents 23:51 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:20378 (3:54:19) 23:52 'Non-undead humans, unique monsters and non-tameable monsters cannot have figurines made of them' <--- the non-tameable bit is incorrect 23:52 from the wiki 23:54 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 23:56 you'd have to specifically add code in dog.c for non-tameables; vanilla doesnt do that 23:56 hmm 23:56 evilhack has 3 cases 23:57 lawful knight <-> eldrich ki-rin 23:57 chaotic knight <-> regular ki-rin 23:57 any knight <-> dragon of differing alignment 23:58 (used to be any dragon) 23:58 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven spear entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:68323 (14:11:33) 23:59 so many spears! 23:59 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]