00:02 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:132152 (1 day, 7:22:35) 00:02 night 00:02 hmm, does a forge always disappear, or 1/6 chance? have 2 disappeared so far 00:03 1/6 when forging normal magic stuff, 100% chance when forging artifacts 00:05 ic 00:07 Still don't have MR T_T 00:07 so a lich with a touch of death = gg? 00:07 you could cart around some potions of hallucination, or poly into a demon, i suppose 00:08 but yeah, it's a precarious situation no matter how you slice it 00:09 i never knew that potion has this use 00:11 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:133137 (1 day, 7:31:48) 00:11 YAY 00:12 look at that turncount 00:23 why-oh-why did you have to explicitly declare enum values for everything, PatR :( 00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:134471 (1 day, 7:55:37) 00:37 ugh always forget to bring more opening wand / acid to ice queen 01:26 Mike the Excavator yanks the Tsurugi of Muramasa from your hand! 01:27 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1290390 points, T:135885, petrified by Medusa 01:27 _T 01:27 T_T_T 01:27 i saw the stone status and thought i can back up 1 square then eat lizard, but too late 01:27 :/ 01:28 darn! 01:35 You were supposed to eat it immediately lol 01:35 just a bite is enough to stop stoning 01:36 lesson (learned many times over) - don't play nethack to relax / when you're tired 01:36 i just didn't stop to think lol. could've stopped to wiki. or polyself first, or wear life saving, etc.. 01:46 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 01:50 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:24 !tell K2 just noticed---are forges supposed to be lit up, like lava? 02:24 K2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, terrapin. 02:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:34232 (13:37:56) 02:42 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 02:43 Hello all - any advice for dealing with a room of mind flayer larva (and yes, there's a mind flayer in it as well). 02:44 That's a mind flayer nursery 02:44 They don't leave the water so you can blast them from safe distances 02:44 Yes - I found the wiki entry for it 02:44 They'll try to attach to any suitable humanoid host, including you - if they succeed the victim becomes another mind flayer 02:44 Hmmm, I can throw Mjollnir at them, then. 02:45 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 02:45 How do you get them off your face if they do get attached?  I have no intention of getting next to one, of course. 02:45 if you grease your helmet they can't grab your face 02:45 ? of fire, perhaps?  or / of fire or cold? 02:46 Ah, good point terrapin 02:46 if they grab you, then either teleport or one-shot them 02:47 Hmmm, no grease available (sob). 02:48 I'll probably avoid the room until I get the grease.  No need to kill them unless the stairs are in the room. 02:51 and a weredemon woke them all up.  Plan B - kill them at a distance.  Throwing Mjollnir is working !! 02:51 Is it safe to eat them when they're dead? 02:57 Generally 03:00 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:00 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 03:06 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:20 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 03:25 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:32 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 03:36 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:47 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:53 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:57 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:58 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 04:13 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 06:05 !who 06:05 xdminsy: [hdf-us] xialg1 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 06:26 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:36 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:48 !tell terrapin yup forges are supposed to be lit like lava 07:48 K2: Message from terrapin at 2023-09-01 02:24 EDT: just noticed---are forges supposed to be lit up, like lava? 07:48 No worries, K2, I've got this! 07:57 loggers when you see this, you should comment - Reddit: [Evilhack] Drow Convict advice. https://redd.it/16751xw 07:58 Lol how do you notice that, I post just now. 07:59 in #nethack the channel bot there reports new posts to r/nethack 08:00 Wow I got it. 08:01 the problem with a successful drow convict start is then you have to ascend a drow convict :-P 08:01 k2: change convict quest artifact to a striped shirt :-) 08:02 brb 08:02 I just do a lot farm:P 08:02 Lol so I think it's much weaker tourist even after removing the chain.. 08:03 I do have died several times, weaker than I thought :P 08:37 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Con Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:29, killed by a fox, while dragging an iron ball 08:39 [hdf-us] [evil] potato (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (elves), on T:23 08:39 [hdf-us] [evil] potato (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 3 points, T:23, killed by a scroll of genocide 09:19 whyyyyy won't the damn dragons eat lizards when they are turning to stone DAMMIT 09:20 so aggravating 09:22 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Oracle, on T:100784 (1 day, 19:04:58) 09:37 mmm love the iron golems with a magic lamp stuck in em 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed greased fixed +3 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:102372 (1 day, 19:30:53) 10:00 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 10:05 k2: infidels slip when trying to mount steeds with cursed saddles. intentional? 10:07 probably 10:09 left to go back home to meet the well guy, our well needed some service and an inspection. that went fine, but in replacing the sediment filter, discovered that the filter housing has been slowly degrading, I now have a slow leak from it 10:09 pressure release value 10:10 *valve 10:11 pressure release valves are easy to replace! just replaced one for my dad's well 10:11 was afraid it was going to end with "...and they couldn't get the pump out of the sleeve so now i need a new well" :-) 10:14 this filter is 16 yrs old plus its undersized. its time to replace it 10:14 they'll put it in a spot where i wont have to climb on a ladder everytime to change the filter 10:19 crazytalk! 10:19 ikr? 10:19 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:50 hmm. yeah i noticed forges in SET_TYPLIT but forges don't seem lit up in either special floors or random ones 10:50 terrapin: Message from K2 at 2023-09-01 07:48 EDT: yup forges are supposed to be lit like lava 10:51 i had like a third of an idea why this was happening last night but now i've totally forgotten 10:52 they wont give off a light radius 10:52 just the obj itself should be lit, so you'd see it in the dark 10:53 yeah 10:53 but you e.g. don't see the goblin town forge from afar 10:56 i'm not really familiar with the level creation code but it seems like SET_TYPLIT only is called in a handful of cases and there are several hardcoded cases where lava in particular is set as lit 10:57 huh 10:58 i might try to get my head around it after (if) magic chests are in a decent place 10:59 i did all the boring stuff last night to get the terrain type up and running, so now i just have the tricky stuff 11:01 in a possibly similar vein, pools on special levels aren't lit up like they are in the gnomish mines. that seems maybe intentional though? 11:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:19 yes that's intentional 11:20 if pools in the mines were not lit, players would lose their minds 11:20 that's how it is in grunthack, makes the mines slow going 11:27 makes sense 11:28 some kinda luminescent algae in the water, i guess 11:30 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 172 points, T:947, killed by an acid blob 11:30 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 11:49 so you may remember yesterday, I noticed some placed where buzz() needs to be updated with new values 11:49 temple priest deity is one of them. right now instead of their angry deity shooting a lightning bolt at you, its finger of death 11:49 hahahahahah 11:49 *places 11:52 oof haha! 11:52 hahahha same for lightning storms on plane of air 11:56 ok those fixed 12:01 also casting ray type spells, and breath attack while poly'd 12:03 i think that's it 12:06 magic beam traps? 12:06 got those on the first go around 12:06 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:07 ah cool 12:07 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±5] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/48747e4eb216...e0919144e899 12:07 [EvilHack] k21971 e091914 - Fix: a few more cases where beam type needed to be updated. 12:13 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/e0919144e899...51e82856dbe5 12:13 [EvilHack] k21971 51e8285 - Fix: illithid corpses can boost intelligence when eaten. 12:21 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:31 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 12:40 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 12:43 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:43 !who 12:43 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil] bouquet [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 12:44 horton hears a !who 12:44 lol 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven spear entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:52571 (10:17:17) 12:55 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:04 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/51e82856dbe5...c729b6a1fffd 13:04 [EvilHack] k21971 c729b6a - Fix: monsters ransacking players possessions on death from a distance. 13:10 -!- dbanethacker61 has joined #evilhack 13:11 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:29 -!- dbanethacker61 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:29 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/c729b6a1fffd...18ff33f836d4 13:29 [EvilHack] k21971 18ff33f - Fix: perm_invent not updating when sokoban prize is acquired. 13:34 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 6 commits to master [+0/-0/±19] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/18ff33f836d4...3ec7f12cc2cf 13:34 [EvilHack] nhmall eff7cfb - Windows: backport fix for asan range error 13:34 [EvilHack] nhmall 61e76df - hilite_pile glitch after eating floor food 13:34 [EvilHack] nhmall f21a5d0 - fixes update to post-3.6.7 section 13:35 [EvilHack] ... and 3 more commits. 13:39 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/3ec7f12cc2cf...1e1c30063130 13:39 [EvilHack] k21971 1e1c300 - Update changelog (vanilla NetHack 3.6.7 updates). 13:47 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 13:57 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:06 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] xerxiaxynn (Tou Gno Fem Neu), 173 points, T:155, killed by a kobold 14:40 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 14:44 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:51 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) destroyed Kas, on T:103760 (1 day, 20:12:48) 15:05 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) destroyed Vecna, on T:104736 (1 day, 20:33:41) 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided alhoons, on T:104994 (1 day, 20:41:00) 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:36712 (16:30:37) 15:31 i'm running around with a coterie of mid-30s dragons and a woolly mammoth, super-relaxing until you have to go up or down stairs 15:34 heh 15:35 i think i'm definitely gonna make retribution if i don't find tiamat 15:42 grr, my shadow dragon ate my mammoth corpse before i could zap it 15:45 not feeding your pets, smh 15:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:48 i'm drooling over the #chat mod so i can tell when dragons get hungry 15:48 it is almost impossible to keep track of this many pets...winnowed down to just 4 dragons now 15:49 hmm, i still get to fight the demon lords as an infidel don't i? looks like baalzebub is peaceful 15:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:54 are you crowned? 15:55 yes 15:56 demons <3 demons 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Rat King, on T:21838 (5:46:27) 15:58 but i wannnna kill himmmm 15:59 don't worry, they are not all peaceful 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 60335 points, T:22162, poisoned by a locust 16:00 btw, you are death magic resistant, so you will laugh at Orcus 16:00 did you get the eye btw? 16:02 !lastgame Nightsorrow 16:02 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nightsorrow/evilhack/dumplog/1692258766.evil.html 16:09 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/1e1c30063130...5023f8f761f3 16:10 [EvilHack] k21971 5023f8f - Fix: pet petrified by eating Medusa's corpse. 16:17 k2: hand of vecna should probably not be a target for repair armor 16:17 or crystal plate 16:17 no, i think crystal plate is fair 16:17 (1) it IS armor, and (2) you CAN take it off 16:18 why? its immune to destroy armor 16:18 but the hand is NOT armor and you can't remove it 16:18 true 16:18 but undamaged armor can still be targeted, so it makes sense that undamageable armor can be targeted 16:18 it DOESNT make sense that not-really-armor can be targeted 16:18 (IMO) 16:19 i mean, i won't complain if you don't want to target crystal plate, i just don't see the compelling reason like for the hand 16:19 as in not asking for buff, pointing out nonsensical behavior to repair what is (merged to your left arm) 16:20 i gotcha 16:20 btw i am still confused about how food works with demon-form. i thought from ctrl-x i didn't use food normally, but i clearly do 16:21 your hunger can still increase when inediate, just not from the usual sources if i understand it correctly 16:22 You can still eat food in inediate forms, your digestion is just-- yeah that. 16:22 ok, so normal stomach-tick suppressed but when you like jump and consume extra nutrition that still happens, etc 16:22 You still use up nutrition by other means than the default also. 16:24 spellcasting will also make you hungry 16:26 anyone know of a reliable way to trigger a crash? 16:26 (for magic chest tests) 16:28 any kind of crash? 16:29 anything that'll make you start at the beginning of the level again 16:29 could you just send a sigabrt? 16:30 a reliable way to trigger a crash would be extremely bad 16:30 in a normal game I mean 16:32 back in a bit 16:36 yeah sigabrt works. thanks! 16:48 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:09 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 17:10 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 17:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:55243 (11:00:09) 17:17 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:55324 (11:03:58) 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a leather studded armor entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:55716 (11:08:07) 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:36724 (16:33:33) 17:26 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:33 would think there would be a wizard mode command, #crash 17:35 so it is copacetic as an infidel to fight a peaceful demon lord? any significant drawback to doing that? 17:38 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:39 Will hand of vecna prohibit nurse dancing? 17:39 just normal peaceful penalties. so no 17:39 hand of vecna does not. it's your actual hand as far as the game is concerned 17:40 Thanks 17:40 except that repair armor will try to repair it 17:40 seriously?! 17:40 that's it, i'm converting to slash'em 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:59385 (1 day, 19:48:42) 17:51 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:01 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 18:05 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:10 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 18:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 18:15 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:108395 (1 day, 22:16:31) 18:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided green slimes, on T:108395 (1 day, 22:16:38) 18:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) genocided shocking spheres, on T:108396 (1 day, 22:16:47) 18:18 does wearing hand of vecna protect rings from shock damage 18:18 not to my knowledge 18:18 lame 18:19 Hi logs 18:19 sup 18:19 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Hammer_of_the_Gods looking to flesh this out after finishing another variant page 18:20 pretty sure HoV does---it's made of flesh 18:21 whether it *should*... 18:21 On that note anyone have strategy stuff to contribute for that article 18:21 I just ask because I know it's treated like a pair of gloves in most respects 18:22 lemme take a look 18:22 yeah it's weird because sometimes it's a left hand, sometimes it's gloves, sometimes it's not gloves but covers both hands... 18:23 my headcanon is that you graft the hand to your left armor and skin it to make a glove for your right 18:23 Loggers_VIII, before you edit 18:23 I could whip up a rudimentary strategy bit but I've never really played around with hotg so I don't know if there's any niche cool things you can do 18:23 lemme do something rw 18:23 rq* 18:23 k 18:23 there 18:24 HotG dissolves zombie corpses like sunsword as of recently 18:24 Well Loggers_VIII can add that in his edit too :B 18:24 don't feel like potentially conflicting him 18:24 is that in current version or next 18:25 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 18:25 oh next version 18:25 but that'll been in like a week! \o/ 18:25 *be 18:25 hell yeah 18:25 nethackathon is soon also that should be fun 18:26 are demon bosses bribable in evil? 18:26 My impression is they should be? 18:26 yup 18:27 Only the lawful ones, though. 18:27 none of them ever offer to get bribed by me :( 18:27 cmon asmodeus we're cool, right? 18:28 just wiztested---it does happen 18:28 maybe I just never carry money in open inventory 18:29 if you quaff cursed invis you'll piss them off, if you wield excalibur/HotG/Demonbane they'll generate pissed off, and yeah, you need gold 18:29 i've never done it in an actual game either 18:29 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:30 @e?grazzt 18:30 grazzt ~1~ Graz'zt (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 35 | Gen: unique | AC: -9 | Atk: 4d8 weapon physical, 6d6 claw stun, 4d6 cast clerical, 3d6 claw item steal | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 18:31 also you need ~5000 gold to bribe them 18:33 that's a good change. I always see people in vanilla bribing them with like 3 bucks 18:33 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:61235 (1 day, 20:40:20) 18:39 Yeah a lot of variants make that change. 18:39 Also it's an "invisible" thing since some of them can't see invisible I think(?) 18:39 And in any case trying to evade them should be something they consider offensive on principle 18:44 hm yeah I remember some of them can't see invis 18:45 oh, nevermind, all demon lords/princes can see invis 18:45 in vanilla, anyway 18:45 assume that carries over to evil 18:45 also, I finished that little strategy section for hotg 18:49 I'd like to create a page for vecna's domain, soon 18:50 maybe tonight 18:54 Loggers_VIII, if you don't I will lol 18:54 K2, can monsters throw polymorph potions at you and does MR block that? 18:57 yes and yes 18:58 k2's gone out for a bit I think 19:02 if you're resistant to death magic, does the eye/hand of vecna "turning on you" still kill you? 19:03 No clue 19:08 @e?kathryn the ice queen 19:08 Kathryn the Ice Queen (@) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: cold sleep petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 3d4 weapon physical, 8d8 touch cold, 3d8 cast clerical, 3d8 cast spell | Align: -128 | omnivore, flies, regen, seeinvis, nopoly 19:09 yes, it still kills you 19:16 that should prob be changed 19:17 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:19 Changed how though 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "demonbane", on T:61408 (1 day, 21:14:12) 19:21 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:61409 (1 day, 21:14:20) 19:22 it's intentional 19:37 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin opened pull request #137: Magic chests and movement points - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/137 19:47 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:48 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a steel chain mail entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:57872 (11:40:32) 19:51 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:58 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:01 \o/ 20:02 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:02 asking some good questions here 20:04 !tell terrapin yay! 20:04 terrapin shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 20:04 heh 20:13 Oh yeah, if you answered my previous question I didn't see 20:13 Lemme pull up the logs... 20:22 i didnt 20:22 lets see 20:22 yes and yes 20:25 is there diminishing returns on sac gifts after 2 artifacts or something? I got angelslayer and trollsbane then nothing for ages 20:26 y'know what I reaaaaaaly want? Ring of protection from shape changers! 20:30 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 20:31 yes there is 20:31 hrm 20:32 your odds can be slightly better if you havent abused your alignment fyi 20:32 also, the higher your exp level, the better odds of getting an artifact vs regular gear 20:32 heya terrapin 20:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:61735 (12:24:49) 20:33 that's more like it 20:33 the odds don't change by enough that it really matters, but enough that you feel bad about hitting that one peaceful gnome with a dagger 20:33 terrapin: Message from K2 at 2023-09-01 20:04 EDT: yay! 20:33 \o/ 20:33 truly evil 20:33 \o/ 20:33 looking over the commit 20:33 the windows build errors out - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/actions/runs/6054921863/job/16433396729?pr=137 20:33 ^ I make this mistake fairly often 20:34 yeah that's from the medusa commit i think 20:34 if you make a new object, you have to make the tile graphic for it 20:34 something with winflexbison? whatever that is 20:34 no 20:34 look at the link 20:34 this one is actually legit :) 20:34 oh a new error! 20:35 new tile coming right up! 20:35 after you insert it, dont forget to run the perl script (same folder) that renumbers everything so its in order 20:35 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:35 yup, thanks 20:35 where you insert it has to match the order its in in objects.c 20:36 cool 20:36 ah you know 20:36 i will stop talking :P 20:36 brbh dishes 20:36 -h 20:37 reading logs: why's vecna's stuff turning on you not protected by death res intentional? I thought they killed stuff with death magic 20:37 Alright cool, thanks K2 20:37 Also, I think it's to stop you from being able to infinitely exploit the invoke with minimum luck or something 20:37 Makes sense flavorwise that Vecna's magic can ultrakill things too 20:37 oh, do they not have an invoke timer? 20:39 that flavor's not consistent though because death-magic resistant monsters resist it 20:40 you're holding it. the magic is stronger 20:40 idk. there is some precedent for self-death being stronger than other kinds of death, like MR not helping vs. wand of death backfiring 20:40 don't you inverse square law me :p 20:41 yeah I suppose 20:41 though that is silly also 20:42 that is true 20:42 YANI: monsters can invoke the eye/hand of vecna 20:42 heh 20:43 you know, that could be cool if you gave it to a pet (and were death-resistant) 20:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:108718 (1 day, 22:35:45) 20:43 like clairvoyance but everything around you just dies 20:43 terrapin, almost :) 20:43 error: for tile 235 (numbered 235) of objects.txt, 20:43 found 'hidden chest' while expecting 'magic chest / hidden chest' 20:44 i hate tiles 20:44 -_- 20:44 i love this choc raspberry vodka tho 20:45 wife makes a batch every year from raspberries we pick in our yard 20:45 take a bunch of chocolate vodka, dump a bunch of raspberries in it, let it sit/ferment for 3-4 months. drink 20:45 ooh that sounds nice 20:45 easy peasy 20:45 it IS 20:46 every year its different, sometimes the raspberry is the prevelant flavor, sometimes its the chocolate 20:46 either way, its goooood 20:46 oooooooo 20:46 you can't really lose with those flavors 20:47 this batch i am drinking, the rasp is the dominant flavor 20:47 godDAMMIT 20:48 that one's on me, i just can't read 20:48 heh 20:48 i just saw 20:48 new monster? gotta jump through the same hoops 20:49 for whatever reason, the linux/mac builds dont care 20:51 'Tiles III: Revenge of the Switch' lol 20:51 my bad puns scale inversely with my patience 20:51 I like that you snuck in the movement points bit 20:52 i should have added that sooner 20:52 yeah i figured with a new version soon it was a good time 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 oilskin cloth toque", on T:62439 (12:45:53) 20:54 error: for tile 73 (numbered 73) of other.txt, 20:54 found 'vertical beam' while expecting 'cmap 73' 20:54 since magical chest is furniture, an edit needs to made to others.txt also i think 20:55 objects.txt is good tho \o/ 20:58 okay that is truly mysterious 20:59 i added a tile first commit for the furniture since i was basically copying your forges commit 20:59 hmm 20:59 well dont worry about it 20:59 you went mad already with the objects.txt bit 21:00 brb fooood 21:00 and thank you terrapin \o/ 21:00 o/ 21:02 I think demon lords with see invisible (all of them) pretending to not see you for the purposes of bribing is silly. 21:02 agreed, that is silly 21:03 i don't think your invisibility matters 21:04 sometimes *they* are invisible, and if you stumble into them they'll get angry 21:06 dammit Lolth is peaceful too :-/ 21:07 Displacement can fool them and makes them angry 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:110742 (1 day, 23:02:57) 21:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:17 ahhhh at least orcus hates me 21:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Orcus, on T:111185 (1 day, 23:14:40) 21:28 "Hey Jo, you know that list of tiles that constantly gets renumbered?" 21:28 "Yeah, Bob?" 21:29 "I've a brilliant idea. Let's make it so the tile names in a separate file have to be numbered correctly or everything breaks." 21:29 "Ship it!" 21:31 we stand on the shoulders of giants, which is inconvenient when we want to give them a kick in the shins 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:111852 (1 day, 23:26:03) 21:41 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:54003 (18:33:35) 21:53 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:54360 (18:45:34) 21:55 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 22:00 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:02 dammit, core 22:03 i guess i'll repeat vlad's tower tomorrow, kinda burnt 22:03 vlad can wait 22:03 i think that's my first crash all year! 22:04 you had a game crash? 22:04 yup 22:04 didn't catch anything, zipped by ultra-fast -- was a round involving a player monster, me, and my four dragons 22:05 gah wtf... someone crashed dnethack something like 140+ times ina row 22:05 hey sounds like something is easily repeatable! 22:05 that's always good news 22:05 was riker 22:05 unfortunately i recovered back two levels so no hope of repeating what happened to me 22:06 I think that might've been the Avatar of Lolth thing Riker mentioned earlier in ##nethack-variants 22:06 Could also have been something else entirely, fuck if I know. 22:07 krm26 - https://termbin.com/dpo0 22:07 i had the greased infidel amulet, maybe a grease thing 22:07 what happened right before the crash? 22:07 i swung on an adjacent player monster and presumably did not kill him -- i imagine he was taking a round on me when it crashed 22:08 i really didn't get to see anything, hit my movement key and poof 22:09 what were you wielding 22:09 details 22:10 angelslayer 22:12 so it can't get to that pointunless the target object is greased, so it had to be nabbing my yendor 22:13 Rhodora the Arbalester jabs her dagger. Rhodora the Arbalester pierces you! 22:13 but obj was null 22:13 ^ last msg 22:13 weird 22:13 never seen that crash before 22:13 prob something i did wrong with the 'cant steal greased stuff' patch 22:13 ok, so i had two greased objects that might have been targets for theft at that point, moloch and yendor, both greased 22:15 hmm 22:15 will dig into that tomorrow 22:16 so i'm not sure exactly how inventory is managed but clearly if the "if (n > 1) {" check included an && obj this error wouldn't have happened 22:17 ahhh 22:17 yeah i am guilty of neglecting to add 'obj && obj->' 22:17 i forget the 'obj' bit sometimes 22:17 i think i see it? in 619 and following when picking from multiple quest objects obj is not set 22:18 so this would only happen when >1 quest object 22:18 that is my 2 penny analysis before i fall asleep 22:18 * K2 nods 22:18 about to crash soon too 22:18 today was a long day 22:18 should be otmp not obj in 657 22:18 looking over terrapin's PR in detail then zzzzz 22:19 which file? 22:19 steal.c 22:19 yes terrapin is right that is better, was just about to suggest setting obj to otmp after 622 :-) 22:19 night! 22:19 gnite krm26 o/ 22:20 'night 22:22 pline("It's surprisingly comfortable!"); /* more ergonomic than most chests */ 22:22 hahah 22:24 -!- krm26 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:27 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:62099 (1 day, 22:09:20) 22:27 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:62100 (1 day, 22:09:36) 22:30 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 22:41 terrapin looks good 22:42 gonna snooze, see you all tomorrow 22:42 yay! g'night 22:49 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63131 (1 day, 22:41:12) 22:59 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63132 (1 day, 22:41:19) 23:04 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:23 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 23:29 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:34 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 23:43 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven bracer entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:63045 (12:53:31)