00:27 muramasa and vorpal 00:27 SoA ain't bad, just make sure to unwield it around balrogs or anything with a bullwhip. 00:28 for ghennom, I usually craft a silver tsurugi and dual that with muramasa. 00:39 kk thx, Hammer of the Gods no good? 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a steel spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:116417 (1 day, 3:55:14) 01:00 i don't feel like crunching the numbers, but expert silver tsurugi of frost/shock is probably fairly similar to basic HotG vs. demons/vampires, and better vs. nondemon stuff. i'd keep HotG around for the worst undead and to prevent demon gating if meleeing demon lords, probably 01:00 It's fine but generally if it ain't broke, you don't fix it. 01:00 While people playing Sams can make HotG work, it's 'simpler' stick to what you're Skilled/Expert in. 02:04 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:12 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 03:16 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:47 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 04:04 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:36 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:79433 (22:16:43) 04:37 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:79437 (22:16:48) 04:43 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 04:45 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) refused to give up The Master Key of Thievery to the Master of Thieves, on T:80015 (22:25:43) 04:46 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:80051 (22:26:26) 04:48 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:40 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 05:44 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:59 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 06:03 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:09 -!- arahael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 06:22 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:04 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 07:08 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 07:45 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 08:12 hi 08:12 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 08:12 * K2 pets Hecubus 08:12 guten tag 08:12 Hello krm26, Welcome to #evilhack 08:13 wewp 08:19 -!- xdminsy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:19 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 08:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:22 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a mithril shield of light entrusted to her by Odin, on T:26425 (9:18:11) 08:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:17221 (2:28:45) 08:29 hah, there was amulet of magic res in the amulet door 08:29 magic marker > magic resistance 08:29 you cray cray 08:30 sokoban non-gold "mr is one of the best things that can happen to anyone 08:30 markers can just go straight up my butt 08:30 ew 08:31 markers are too alluring for me to resist now 08:31 one of the most fun items in any game 08:31 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:81330 (22:39:12) 08:31 I already had an amulet of reflection but I wanted a marker and a bag so didn't want to gamble 08:31 with anything to lose, anyway 08:32 yeah that is tough, but if i didn't have mr i'd have to take that awful gamble anyway 08:32 hindsight will probably prove you right but for the moment I'm riding my marker high 08:35 "Interesting... You feel weak! You haven't been exercising properly." been getting a lot of those message combinations lately 08:36 also, haven't been exercising properly my ass I just spent thousands of turns rolling boulders around 08:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:18311 (2:38:47) 08:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:59 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Robert the Lifer, on T:19380 (2:48:41) 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:28381 (10:00:17) 09:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 66210 points, T:20221, killed by a giant sergeant, while moving through the air 09:29 oops, got cocky 09:30 :( 09:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 636 points, T:1124, killed by a mountain dwarf 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 202 points, T:525, killed by an iron ball collision 09:37 k2: "The runed spear welds itself to the green-elf's claw!" 09:39 https://youtu.be/jVF-ugA2Atk?si=eW2yX0ifn9QtPNkx&t=12 09:40 i may be the only person in the world that has absolutely hated every second of every thing that jim carrey has ever done. i just wanna punch him so bad 09:40 wut 09:40 i love jim carrey, he's hilarious 09:41 i want to beat him to death with the corpse of gene wilder 09:41 what's hatable about jim carrey 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3208 (0:08:57) 09:47 and do you hate or love gene wilder 09:50 almost done with this branch 09:51 vorpal blade in a shop! can't wait to get beheaded! 09:51 everyone loves gene wilder 09:51 oh nice k2 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4541 (0:14:55) 09:53 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 09:53 grr i cant do kathryn cuz i can't charm the mammoths who i want to use to kill paladin for me :-P 09:54 i'd burn my magic lamp for a spellbook of charm monster but i just know the djin is waiting to flip me off 09:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 2841 points, T:4925, killed by a gnome lady, while frozen by a potion 09:54 ?? 09:54 !lastgame 09:54 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1693489061.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/evilhack/dumplog/1692986100.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1692094307.evil.html 09:54 hah that's funny 09:55 quaff potion of para randomly --> survive a beating --> oh wow what luck --> gnome lord throws potion of paralysis at me 09:58 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Medusa, on T:82946 (1 day, 10:22:50) 10:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:83299 (1 day, 10:29:27) 10:20 congrats krm26, I knew you were banking on trollsbane \o/ 10:23 :P 10:23 Oh my little con dro. 10:25 ....since i cant cast for crap, at least i can angelslayer/ashmar 10:26 I though inf were spellcasters 10:26 *thought 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 71 points, T:528, killed by a newt 10:28 I see a lot loggers corpses. 10:28 in scoreboard lol. 10:28 yes I die a lot :) 10:29 only talent to my name is speed 10:30 Lol yes, I found that if god can respond me happily every 1000 turns it could be consistently remove the ball maybe very game. 10:31 How to speed up, former games I found that sometimes I can't beat a centaur and then stuck :P 10:32 how to speed up: move your fingers faster 10:33 :P 10:33 how to speed up: play locally. 10:33 if you can beat my best time locally I'll believe you 10:34 Lol nope I can't. 10:34 heh 10:34 I play 3.7 slowly too. 10:34 you had that one fast game, though 10:34 a little while ago 10:35 Maybe that rogue with level 2 wand of wishing. 10:36 Normally I would cost average 40k turns in 3.7. 10:36 that's pretty normal I think 10:37 I found that in scoreboard, mobileuser ascends evilhack quickly in average. 10:37 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 10:38 yes mobileuser is insanely good 10:38 vaderflag, krm26, terrapin, mobileuser are all very very good 10:38 You are good too. 10:39 thanks :) 10:39 you misspelled "slow" as "good" when you included me 10:39 good=wins a lot 10:42 most evilhack ascenders are significant serial ascenders which i think speaks both to the quality of the variant and to its lack of effective publicity :-) 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:119095 (1 day, 4:31:02) 10:43 evilhack is one of the more popular variants 10:43 although irregardless of numbers i would say anybody with a tortle ascension has a significant conversance with evilhack 10:43 but I think people tend to give it a bad rap by just saying "oh evilhack will kill you play it if you like dying LOL" 10:44 tortle is the fundamental evilhack experience tbh 10:44 hard but REALLY fun 10:44 Hard in what parts? 10:44 Haven't try one. 10:45 they can only wear helmets, gloves and shields 10:45 and they're slower than usual 10:45 but they get AC on level up, and have intrinsic swimming and water breathing 10:46 Dislike those can't wear full armors :P 10:46 I like it it lets me ignore things 10:46 I am a simple man, perhaps to my own detriment 10:48 May a bit wanna try human wizard. 10:48 Farm and polypiling. 10:50 i now think of races that can wear stuff on their body as "ez mode" :-) 10:50 ohhh, you can use dragonscales, CHEATER 10:51 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51 k2: when you do the water branch, make swimmers wearing (non-sea-scaled) armor and cloaks slowed/encumbered/reducedtohit, effectively buffing tortles, giants, and anyone who wants to strip for the water level 10:52 that way non-tortle-players can have a brief experience of tortledom 10:52 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 10:53 underwater branch... 10:53 lot has to happen before we get that 10:55 heh 10:58 Is there any other interesting irc channel that talk a lot? 10:58 ah... not that I really know of 10:59 #hackem, maybe 10:59 #hardfought is just livelogging pretty much, so is #nethack 10:59 you can just enter random channels to see if anyone's there, I gues 10:59 *guess 11:00 #hardfought still has the occasional discussion 11:00 not as often as it did initially though 11:00 I have joined these, but seems only #evilhack has a lot people talking often. 11:01 Okay then :P 11:01 yeah #evilhack is the best channel :) 11:02 I have been told that IRC is not, in fact, what it once was 11:02 treasure. 11:08 branch level is done, stocked with monsters and such 11:08 now the finishing touch 11:08 the boss beholder 11:08 yay 11:08 name him bobby joe 11:08 aiming to commit this tonight 11:09 heh 11:09 bobby! bobby joe! 11:09 gonna use this one instead - https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Talgath 11:10 heartless game developer steals content from small up-and-coming indie game to put in his massively popular dungeon crawler 11:10 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 11:12 k2, have you by any chance tried to compile evil on freebsd? 11:12 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:13 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 11:13 nope 11:14 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:14 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 11:15 awhile ago i tried to get discord to irc bridge setup here from roguelikes discord, have an evilhack specific disord on that end 11:15 was told no :/ 11:15 because ##nethack_variants already exists 11:15 - 11:15 not _ 11:17 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17 the nethack-variants channel is in a weird spot 11:17 this is the first time i've heard of its existence 11:17 cuz technically it has a bot that reports on stuff for all the variants but the only variant actual people talk about in it is dnethack/notdnethack 11:18 terrapin really? :/ 11:18 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 11:18 ##nethack-variants on irc here 11:18 well i feel uncultured now 11:18 Loggers_VIII there's sometimes other variant discussion there 11:18 but yeah its mostly dnh 11:19 which makes me ignore that channel pretty much 11:19 don't tell the dnethack players but I think that variant has too much stuff 11:20 some players like that kind of divergence. dnethack changes a LOT of stuff 11:20 and I barely even played to mid game :p 11:20 its pretty popular 11:20 most played variant overall i think 11:20 I don't really mean mechanics, I mean stuff like items 11:20 and yeah it's very popular 11:20 there's like 1000 artifacts and half of them are shit 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:122189 (1 day, 5:09:24) 11:21 the only reason I haven't continued playing it is it's taking forever for me to come up with a silly ultimate strategy to break the game 11:22 it's almost complete, though 11:22 step 1) be Demo 11:22 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:22 heh 11:22 in evilhack it's easy to become op. just forge soa :P 11:23 one of the main reasons i avoid dnethack is because the default color scheme is really depressing on my terminal and I can't be bothered to change it 11:23 loggers_viii, "easy" 11:23 terrapin monster colors or just overall? 11:23 hah terrapin yeah 11:23 overall 11:24 cbus evilhack is not so hard if you don't play, like, convict 11:24 especially the blues. they're too subdued 11:24 difficulty is relative 11:24 evilhack isnt too hard for Loggers_VIII because he's played so many drow convicts, everything is easy in comparison :P 11:25 :D 11:25 makes sense 11:25 I will win all alignments 11:25 then I can be put on the "notable players" wiki page 11:34 -!- xdminsy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:35 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:42971 (13:58:04) 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:42972 (13:58:08) 11:37 \o/ 11:39 What dnh default color scheme look like? 11:39 I don't know, it's weird. like terrapin said, it has very sad blues 11:39 I hardly heard of dnh, when I search variants I see they all recommend evil/hackem. 11:40 you can spin up a game on hardfought if you want to see 11:40 that's because there is an evil rennaissance happening right now :) 11:40 everyone is realizing they need to be playing the best variant 11:40 Lol. 11:40 heh 11:40 When I choose variants I just avoid those 3.4.3 based one. 11:41 So I first tried one xnh game. 11:41 hate 3.4.3 11:41 xnethack is good 11:41 I finally had enough of people hating 3.6x for no reason so now I'm hating 3.4.3 for good reaons 11:41 *reasons 11:41 xnethack's new gehennom is really good 11:42 Sadly, I haven't go gehennom that game. 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) refused to give up The Platinum Yendorian Express Card to Twoflower, on T:43166 (14:02:59) 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Twoflower, on T:43167 (14:03:07) 11:42 noooo you monster terrapin!!! 11:42 first time i've ever killed a quest leader :( 11:42 i'm so sorry twoflower 11:42 and twoflower, of all the ones to choose from! 11:43 :( 11:44 You chaotic tourist. 11:46 \o/ 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 346 points, T:1433, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:50 One problem playing online is that editing rcfile is a bit harder. 11:51 https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/rcedit/ 11:52 Ah I know that, when I play 3.7 I usually open a vim window editing .nethackrc aside. 11:52 I've used it to paste my rc in. 11:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:59 I checked one dnh video, I see those items on floor are all blue. 12:06 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:08 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:09 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 12:21 hmm i think i have to put off making armor of retribution until i know for sure i've missed tiamat scales 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:88525 (1 day, 12:39:27) 12:41 well this is interesting 12:42 even if a monster is flagged at having infravision or ultravision, they cant really 'see' you if you're in the dark 12:45 hmm 12:45 maybe not... 12:45 this is weird 12:47 oh yeah you have to see it as well 12:47 gaze attacks 12:50 my original statement is still true though I think 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a steel dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:123534 (1 day, 5:20:35) 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 161 points, T:202, killed by a fox 13:01 terrapin: dnh does not have use_darkgray by default (probably because it wasn't default in 3.4.3 and not all terminals support it), you should enable it as well as lit_corridor otherwise you can't distinguish between some things 13:01 like without use_darkgray, air looks the same as corridor tiles 13:01 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 6 points, T:62, killed by a goblin 13:04 Why would you even want a discord bridge for this channel? Discord is proprietary malware. 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 7 points, T:204, killed by a fox 13:05 i know right? what was i thinking 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 cursed scroll of genocide", on T:51 (0:01:03) 13:06 🤔 13:18 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 13:18 Hello all - quick question - can (any colored) dragon scales be embedded into armor made of bone via the ? of ench. armor? 13:19 yes 13:19 the only armor that can't have scales embedded in it is the armor of retribution 13:19 Ok, thanks - I was hesitant to try it as I only have the 1 set of bone banded mail. 13:20 and 1 set of gray dragon scales 13:20 Can poly'd (into a horse or dragon or something) players wear barding? 13:20 i'm not sure how you'd put it on? 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 1949 points, T:2445, killed by a rothe 13:37 how does demon "survive without having to eat" mesh with hunger effects from spellcasting? 13:38 food consumption purely from casting, so eat when weak, only lose nutrition when cast? 13:38 immune to famine effects? 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed greased fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:91602 (1 day, 13:52:15) 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) wished for "cursed greased fixed +3 dragonhide robe", on T:91622 (1 day, 13:55:26) 13:46 [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 460 points, T:2820, killed by a hobbit 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) had a war hammer entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:91704 (1 day, 13:58:36) 14:24 hah, was trying to tame some mammoths and accidentally tamed the pegasus without doing kathryn 14:29 confused taming? 14:32 yup, wanted to grab a bunch of mammoths to do paladin for me 14:35 do i remember something about infidels having a super-short window of kathryn being peaceful? 14:36 I think it's like a couple hundred turns. 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:93122 (1 day, 14:47:56) 14:44 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed the Paladin of Mitra, on T:93988 (1 day, 15:08:55) 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:93989 (1 day, 15:09:08) 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) completed her quest without incident, on T:94343 (1 day, 15:14:16) 15:03 so as an infidel, the quest leader is supposed to give me some altar chat hint -- is that only after i've got the book of the dead or something? 15:04 all he does is ask me if i've been to the sanctum yet 15:07 Do you have the Idol? 15:07 yup 15:07 was i supposed to chat with him BEFORE completing the quest? 15:08 hold on please 15:08 Yeah no you have to have imbued the Idol 15:09 the high priest down there gives one hint, you get the other from the Archbishop on the way back if they're not dead 15:09 ah, on the way back, cool cool thx 15:10 How do you know which altar if the Archbishop is dead? 15:11 High priest again 15:21 is there any advantage to the idol being blessed or cursed? 15:21 Blessed generates tame demons if I recall 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 1937 points, T:1991, killed by a piranha 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) polymorphed her first object, on T:94842 (1 day, 15:45:21) 15:51 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 16:16 infidels really have to do a lot of walking 16:19 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23 Ok, I'll bite. How do non-infidels avoid doing a lot of walking? 16:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 16:34 cursed controlled teleport 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a shield of reflection entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:126979 (1 day, 5:53:16) 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven spear entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:45955 (8:34:56) 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:128964 (1 day, 6:08:07) 17:08 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 17:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:13966 (3:08:49) 17:15 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest5168 17:26 -!- Guest5168 has quit [Killed (cadmium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 17:26 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) destroyed Charon, on T:97368 (1 day, 17:38:59) 17:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) killed Cerberus, on T:97375 (1 day, 17:39:24) 17:32 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:32661 (12:26:34) 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) entered Gehennom, on T:97383 (1 day, 17:47:17) 17:37 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:03 damn i just cant get my mammoths from getting hungry and killing my dragons 18:03 engulfers make so much better pets 18:08 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:10 You didn't load up on fruit from the first floor of Ice Queen? 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:44573 (14:43:52) 18:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:44881 (14:51:38) 18:55 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a small shield entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:45882 (15:09:14) 18:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:46977 (15:32:39) 19:22 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:47401 (15:38:18) 19:25 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 19:45 nice terrapin 19:59 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:00 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:00 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:04 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a pair of mithril tekko entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:130435 (1 day, 6:17:53) 20:23 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:24 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 20:25 130k turns and no sign of dragonbane lol.. is it worth forging ashmar to get acid resistance? 20:28 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:30 Acid resistance is not critical. If you want to use a shield instead of dual wielding Ashmar is definitely worth it. Dual wielding is I think generally superior for a sammy, and DEFINITELY for a giant sammy 20:31 If I was a giant sammy and made Ashmar I would be using it only in a narrow set of circumstances, otherwise I'd be dual wielding my tsurugi/mjollnir or tsurugi/soa or whatever 20:31 Didn't we have a couple of late deaths to acid torrents 20:31 recent ones I mean 20:31 It can definitely happen 20:32 But acid resistance isn't the only way to mitigate that -- better offense, potions of full healing, massive health from alchemy, etc. 20:32 I think of acid resistance as mandatory for an early Kathryn attempt and otherwise "nice to have" 20:33 Although as a lawful sammy you'd really love GoPurity 20:37 I guess I'm afraid to go Kathryn now with 171 hp and no acid resist. Also afraid to go Medusa with no good ranged weapons (enchant weapon is extremely rare) 20:38 You're a giant, throw boulders. 20:38 A giant sammy can fence her in and pick her off 20:38 i have weight problems... 20:38 (medusa) 20:38 Stick some stuff in a box somewhere for a while 20:38 Bring scrolls of earth and read them before starting the fight then 20:38 What level are you? 20:39 xp 15 20:39 How many blessed scrolls of fire do you have? 20:39 3 20:40 mmm i see poor man's mr 20:40 been there 20:41 you have ogresmasher and trollsbane? 20:41 yes 20:41 how many forges have you found? 20:41 3 left 20:41 if i were you i would make ashmar and do kathryn 20:42 no scrolls of enchant weapon? 20:42 yea it's not like i want to forge anything else except maybe gauntlets of purity (i lack both base items) 20:42 like, 2 left 20:42 you're at the point where i'd use some of my enchant weapon on tsurugi, that weapon will be a keeper 20:42 and you'll find plenty more in the rest of the game 20:43 for half physical? 20:43 with tsurugi/ashmar and opening with your scrolls of fire i think you'll be fine with kathryn 20:43 if you pelt kathryn with boulders from >10 squares away you may be able to take her out before she can even attack you 20:44 if you are cautious like me you'll always carry some scrolls of earth, potions of full healing, and a wand of teleportation to save yourself from mistakes 20:44 terrapin is right, you can get good range on boulders and confuse kathryn into inaction 20:44 not reliable enough to try without backup plans, but between ?oFire and ashmar that's plenty 20:44 if she does a bad summon nasties on you a scare monster or scroll of earth can help 20:45 there's grand total of 2 potions of full healing (havent alchemized) 20:45 if you want to do confused taming ahead of time you can actually probably get a few mammoths AND the pegasus before you even enter her room (taming from the front gate) 20:45 2 full healing is a lot -- they will let you run away and try again if you made an error in judgement 20:46 ok! sounds like ashmar then ice queen 20:46 hesperides will help with your weight problem 20:47 -!- eggandhull has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:47 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven bracer entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:49244 (9:23:19) 20:47 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 20:48 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:53 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:54 booo, kicking boots don't help kick fruit from trees 20:54 unplayable! 21:03 yay, finally took out that asshole originally-peaceful healer that got pissed off when i moved into them since they were invisible 21:04 they were super high AC, so I went up against them earlier with a randomly-found +5 ring of increase accuracy, they called down lightning and dusted it and my only ring of invis in two turns 21:13 player monsters are the worst 21:22 what use are fruits from trees? 21:22 mostly pegasus food 21:22 eucalyptus -- cure sick pets, sick yourself 21:22 and the satisfaction of knowing you've wrung every available resource from the dungeon 21:23 :) 21:24 gonna wrap up that side branch tonight 21:24 almost done, been play testing 21:25 woohoo! 21:31 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 21:35 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:45 hmmm... the WoW is behind the lava pool in the castle with the iron-barred corridor, right? 21:45 or can it be in one of the chests with the dragons? 21:46 oh, i guess it can be. huh 21:51 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 21:56 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:17 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:51534 (17:27:30) 22:25 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 22:35 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:52354 (17:45:20) 22:35 woop 22:35 \o/ 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:53500 (18:04:52) 23:00 terrapin: what luck..... within 2000 turns?! 23:00 does gifting probability change based on dungeon level, monster difficulty, etc? 23:01 no, just with how many magical gifts have already been given 23:01 probability of an artifact changes with level, and I was level 24 so I was guaranteed artifacts, but it was still very lucky 23:02 or actually i think it's 90% at 24 23:02 nice 23:10 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:14 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±39] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/93c4be40facc...1c704a9a7a17 23:14 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 23:14 [EvilHack] k21971 1c704a9 - New branch: The Hidden Dungeon. 23:14 Just in time Logs 23:14 heh finally 23:14 yay, right on time 23:14 \o/ 23:14 please critique and lemme know what ya think 23:15 chance for marker \o/ 23:16 oh this looks FUN 23:17 :) 23:17 wow tal'gath is strong in melee 23:17 has to be 23:18 i spent a lot of time trying to have him be a spellcaster 23:18 but there's some weird behavior trying to combine multiple gaze attacks and spellcasting on the same monster 23:18 i narrowed down some of it but it was wasting time 23:18 weird 23:19 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 23:19 if I'm reading that right, 16d4 magic missile attack and 10d10 bite? 23:19 yup 23:19 yikes 23:19 so 16-64 damage per magic missile attack, 10-100 damage from the bite 23:19 with this and the wizard tower, next version's gonna be wonderful 23:20 remember, this new branch is optional. no one has to do it 23:20 depends how badly you wanna see beholders go away 23:20 can't wait to rush it right after castle and get my shit kicked in 23:21 I do like that you can genocide beholders now, though. makes sense to have it be like liches 23:21 and that they're not mindless. that was weird too 23:21