00:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) destroyed bouquet's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:3157 (0:23:27) 00:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:5312 (0:45:50) 00:50 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 01:22 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 01:26 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 01:35 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:61756 (10:29:41) 01:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10256 (2:44:24) 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a pair of copper tekko entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:63789 (10:41:35) 01:55 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:00 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a hill giant), on T:10945 (3:17:51) 02:16 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 28032 points, T:11036, killed by strangulation 02:24 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:30 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:860 (0:17:29) 02:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1087 (0:20:45) 02:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1897 points, T:1514, killed by a piranha 02:41 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:50 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:51 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:37346 (22:41:36) 02:54 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:01 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:18 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 03:57 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 04:02 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:32 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 04:36 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:38 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:12 Okay, I go mines now, and that alhoon is indeed a doppleganger. 06:07 My monster spawn rate is 2.96x now, but I have only reached dlevel 11. 06:08 What's other factors that affect spawn rate? 06:08 I see crowning make it 2x. 06:21 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 06:23 Well my drow at level 22 has only 124 hp.. 06:26 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:52 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:53 hai 07:55 gday 07:55 Hello krm26, Welcome to #evilhack 07:55 hah 07:55 caught by the bot 07:56 new day, new 50k turns to not get mr or a stethoscope! 07:56 are you hoarding wishes again 07:56 nope no wishes 07:57 i've stopped descending at 11 because of the amulet 07:57 and because i'm fairly likely to be killed by the first gelatinous cube to jump me 07:57 was lucky and got an 11 ludios that i laboriously cleared for dragon scales but all i got was a green :-P 07:58 any one of stethoscope, holy water, or mr will give me just enough boost to descend further i think 07:58 lack of spellcasting ability for a spellcaster is really punishing 07:59 i did finally get a lizard corpse tho! huzzah! 08:01 \o/ 08:03 AND i now have an adult yellow dragon pet after burning my one taming scroll on a baby. just need to make some barding 08:16 cool, I Am Curious Yellow is now proof against anything but polymorph 08:16 soooo, polymorph trap in 3...2... 08:17 waiting for terrapin's PR before i do anything else, he has some good fixes/changes coming sounds like 08:17 #amuletsforpetswithnecks 08:18 oooh oooh dragonhide leash of magic resistance 08:27 :) 08:30 how many uncursed remove curse scrolls do you have? maybe enough to gamble? 08:32 4 08:32 so, no 08:33 i did just get a blessed potion of invis that an agent of set managed not to drink, so i have a teeny tiny chance of a wish i may use in a few 08:34 feets dont fail me now... 08:34 nope 08:34 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:36 Well my this game spent 90k turns not descending dlevel 11. 08:36 And I'm not sure if I'm strong enough. 08:36 I think I need to play wizard next time to just farm. 08:36 just run down to the castle and grab the wand 08:36 And polypiling. 08:37 how much hp/ac do you have? 08:37 I have 237 mhp and -45 AC. 08:37 Oh that is PLENTY 08:37 I nurse danced twice, before I'm level 24 and only 120 hp.. 08:37 I’ve done the castle with 80 HP go down there and kick some ass 08:38 I have AoR and tried to kill Oracle that time. 08:38 His damage is so high. 08:38 the oracle is dangerous, yeah 08:38 I remember maybe one hit take my 40 hp. 08:38 Even that I have half spell damage. 08:39 but did you know? Her magic 8 ball can grant a wish :) 08:39 Yes, I thought it was weak like a rabbit like in vanilla, 08:39 I know, but seems only 0.001% chance. 08:39 I'm not sure, I think the warning is okay lol. 08:40 My last game only wished shirt of decay for drain resistance. 08:40 This game I think maybe I could wish nothing? 08:40 But I'd like to wish for shadowblade and some dragonhide armors.. 08:41 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 08:41 Oh I got Dragonbane and Angelslayer today, quite good. 08:41 that is nice 08:41 I found that the hill giant shaman is good to just summoning insects, I today encounter one h shaman, I'm not sure, gnoll shaman maybe, he keep cursing my items. 08:42 IMO with your current build you can do everything up to vecna 08:43 How does alhoon works? 08:43 they’re just a lich with a tentacle attack basically 08:43 I remember I encounter that shapechanger alhoon in mines, I was -35 that time. 08:43 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:44 But drained to maybe 3 or 4 int and I escaped upstairs. 08:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:56 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:58 Wiki says: wearing GoP and firing a bow gives -2 to-hit penality. TH is not changing when I wear the gloves. Does TH not always reflect the actual value. 08:59 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:01 k3ut0i there are probably some cases it doesnt track 09:02 minors ones like that (GoP and firing a bow) 09:16 good lord i may die to low int before i get anywhere 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:38883 (23:30:21) 09:21 don't forget the grease! 09:23 :) forgot about thiefs 09:24 Do iron rings rust away completely if I go for a swim? 09:24 fingers crossed, player priest! (k3ut0i, they will eventually, not on first wet tho) 09:24 they always have them in bag :) 09:26 hurray for priests! 09:30 so passiveum() AD_SLOW attacks have a 1/3 chance of slowing, while passive() AD_SLOW attacks always slow. Meanwhile gazemu() AD_SLOWs have a 1/4 chance of slowing, while gazemm() AD_SLOWs always slow. should these be made to match or are they like that due to balance concerns? 09:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 1233 points, T:1823, killed by an elf zombie 09:34 wish lava would melt the iron ball 09:35 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:35 there should be an option to just cut your foot off and play the game with permanent wounded legs to get rid of the thing :P 09:36 Loggers you already ascended Con Dro 09:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 215 points, T:605, killed by a fox 09:37 yeah, you con drop it now :P 09:37 yeah but there's still two more alignments tho 09:37 ah... 09:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:37 good point! 09:37 followup question: passive() dragon armor passives only trigger 1/3 of the time but passiveum() dragon armor passives always trigger. intentional or not? 09:43 gah, now that i actually have a few enchant weapon scrolls i can't decide whether to commit to shitty secespita or shitty grimtooth...both so fecally equivalent 09:44 get crowned and get stormbringer 09:44 hahahaha 09:44 haHAHAHA 09:44 get CROWNED you say 09:44 there goes another 150k turns 09:45 you just don't know how to cook the godly dish 09:45 do tell 09:46 i need all the help i can get 09:46 also, he won't get stormbringer 09:46 if you have fireball already does it not give you stormy when you get crowned? 09:46 he is not chaotic 09:46 ^ 09:47 infidels are not chaotic? 09:47 but he can unlock long sword 09:47 unaligned 09:47 ohhhhhh fkin moloch 09:47 lol 09:47 yeah this is why infidel is lame 09:47 booo infidel 09:47 infidels are members of the non-aligned movement 09:47 unlock long sword, get the brands, forge... 09:47 as i understand it i have to (1) know fireball, (2) have fireball spellbook in inventory, and (3) wield some random weapon i want unlocked 09:47 no, nonaligned is wonderful serendipitous things like frost brand and dragon bane 09:47 unaligned is emo moloch worshiper 09:48 moloch has given me 3 daggers in 50k turns of constant sacrificing and nothing else 09:48 not even complaining about the lack of artifaacts, the sheer lack of anything is astounding 09:48 didn't say it was easy 09:48 mobileuser would be on astral by now 09:48 heh 09:48 o 09:48 mobileuser is a robot 09:48 i'm still not magic resistant 09:49 and the only reason player monsters arent killing me now is my dragon pet 09:49 well such is often the life of an infidel 09:49 barely hanging on 09:50 +0 secespita and 16 bone daggers are my offense 09:50 maybe you have the resources now to get the Idol? 09:50 i could dip fireball, learn it, and then cast it 3 times on paladin 09:50 how many confused charging will i need? 09:50 alternately i do have scrolls of fire 09:51 blessed scrolls of fire also help 09:51 so i could use 5 blessed scrolls of fire. that is almost enough for kathryn, will that do paladin? 09:51 no, but maybe combined with a few rounds of fireball 09:51 i haven't gone past level 11 to even find the quest yet because of the amulet monster generation screw 09:51 any gain energy? 09:51 nope, no gain energy. 5 charging tho 09:52 5 charging should do it 09:52 expensive! 09:52 best would be if you could crown first and the selfpoly to demon 09:52 * then 09:53 doesn't matter for gift timeout 09:53 crowning doesn't automatically make you a demon? 09:53 it does, but 09:53 demon gets such large bonuses for HP and Pw that 09:53 it's smart to reset your stats 09:54 with selfpoly 09:54 how does that work? 09:54 you just poly a second time to "demon" 09:54 probably you just poly to "infidel" or whatever 09:54 no demon 09:54 when it asks which monster, choose demon 09:55 oh huh, I didn't know that demon was a monster 09:55 is that an evil thing or is that in vanilla 09:55 after crowning infidel becomes "demon" 09:55 wonder if that would fix my almost-fatally-low int 09:55 pray to moloch to fix it 09:56 raise my 6 up to an 8, whee 09:56 but no, if i pray he'll probably crown me when im unprepared 09:56 the only prep you need is to not depend on silver stuff 09:56 you were just saying that crowning would take 150k turns now he's gonna crown you first pray? 09:56 lol 09:56 if it screws me, sure he will 09:57 but by prep i mean i need to learn fireball, hold the spellbook, and wield a longsword 09:57 ah 09:57 or is spellbook enough, without learning it? 09:57 not sure... 09:57 you just need the book in inv I think 09:57 You asked before, you just need the book 09:58 sorry, i am slow 09:58 does evil have that 3.7 thing where gods can beam knowledge of spells into your brain 09:58 instead of giving you a book 09:59 in hackem they beam your special spell when you reach xl 12 09:59 wow that's cool 10:00 I've been thinking of playing hackem 10:00 was looking at the wiki page the other day and it looks cool 10:00 I got to the quest once but that's the farthest I've made it 10:01 monk has become great fun with all the #tech they get 10:01 well lots of roles have fun tech 10:02 I am a noted monk enjoyer 10:02 yes spells can beam into your brain in evilhack 10:02 Ardub already ascended a convict 10:03 K2 cool! 10:03 oh btw k2 I was wondering, why can't elves be convict? 10:03 cuz they're cha 10:03 cuz they werent before 10:03 in other variants 10:04 ah 10:05 in case you all didnt see the most recent changes from yesterday - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commits/master 10:05 oh cool, shimmering dragon gets unique breath 10:06 si 10:06 what color 10:06 dark red 10:06 wild 10:07 gold dragon scales are now just worse shadow scales, though 10:10 hah 10:10 we'll see 10:11 light+infravision is worse for all roles compared to darkness+ultravision plus shadow scales get drain resistance 10:11 but shadow dragons are a lot stronger than gold ones so maybe it makes sense 10:11 *worse for all races 10:11 perm light source is kinda a big deal (sans drow) 10:12 shadow scales give you ultravision? 10:12 but, it made sense to move sick res from gold to green 10:12 qt yes 10:12 ultravision is better than perm light source 10:12 yeah why would you want a permanent light source then? 10:12 yeah the sick resistance made no sense on gold scales lol 10:12 welp 10:12 well it made them very nice :) 10:12 i'm open to suggestions for gold dragon-scaled armor 10:13 make it drop gold coins as you walk around 10:13 slapping fire res on it (again) makes most sense since gold dragons breathe fire 10:13 and every 100 turns it drops a wand of wishing 10:14 make extrinsic elemental resists more meaningful by capping intrinsic elemental resists at like 90% 10:14 i thought krm26's idea of extrinsic clairvoyance was neat, part of the "seeing more" theme 10:14 silence this man 10:14 He wants gold scale suggestions, not attempts to re-redesign half the game 10:14 K2, did you see my AD_SLOW questions? 10:15 i did, i thought i answered them? 10:15 oh krm26 once you become demon, try to level up as much as you can. don't fear NPC's, you will easily kill them with advanced fire/cold/acid spells. and fuck the potions/scrolls that get blown up. 10:15 I had new ones today 10:15 so passiveum() AD_SLOW attacks have a 1/3 chance of slowing, while passive() AD_SLOW attacks always slow. Meanwhile gazemu() AD_SLOWs have a 1/4 chance of slowing, while gazemm() AD_SLOWs always slow. should these be made to match or are they like that due to balance concerns 10:15 followup question: passive() dragon armor passives only trigger 1/3 of the time but passiveum() dragon armor passives always trigger. intentional or not? 10:15 oh i didnt see those 10:15 ugh 10:16 hmm 10:17 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 10:17 it should be the same across the board 10:18 followup question: passive() dragon armor passives only trigger 1/3 of the time but passiveum() dragon armor passives always trigger. intentional or not? <--- should prob be 1/3rd in passive() as well as passiveum() 10:18 ad_slow is all over the place eh? 10:18 yeah it's a tricky one 10:19 so ad_slow in passive() and passiveum() should be 1/3rd also 10:19 gaze is different... should probbaly be always 10:19 yeah those all make sense to me 10:20 who knows what past me was thinking 10:20 prob insane 10:20 I've got some stuff to do rn but in a few hours I should be able to finish up the passivemm dragonscales and the final slow tweaks 10:20 i look forward to it mobileuser although my chances of making to to demon form are low 10:20 terrapin cool 10:20 oh i know what i wanted to do next 10:21 the ring in gollums cave, actually make it 'the one ring' 10:21 so instead of a ring of invis that's named, make it a legit artifact 10:21 -!- Loggers_VIII3 has joined #evilhack 10:21 if you die wearing it you need to become a wraith 10:21 in the bones 10:22 or a nazgul 10:22 hah 10:22 -!- Loggers_VIII3 has left #evilhack 10:22 wearing it should make fell beasts peaceful 10:23 Taking partial notes from dnh's implemention, possibly? 10:23 Which, hold on a second. 10:24 oh i didnt know dnh did that 10:24 i'll do my own thing 10:24 will I still be able to ID invis rings from it 10:24 It didn't, ignore me 10:24 yeah its base item would still be a ring of invis 10:24 noice 10:25 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2528/source 10:25 Best you'll have to do is SLASH'EM then 10:25 or, pre-SLASH'EM rather 10:25 impossible, slashem is the pinnacle of variants 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) became the Emissary of Moloch, on T:58430 (18:47:25) 10:28 well now i can use longswords i dont have! 10:28 \o/ 10:28 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:28 forge them smh my head 10:29 artifact longswords 10:29 hmm, he change the bone longsword i was wielding into a long sword of fire, thx moloch 10:29 can demon infidels wield excalibur 10:30 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 10:32 of course a player monster spawned next to me when i was crowned and neither my dragon nor i can hit em 10:34 fireball can 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 101 points, T:513, caught himself in his own death field 10:35 lol 10:35 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:36 dont know fireball yet 10:38 -29ac sheesh 10:39 anyway can't cast fireball nearly enough to dent him 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) had a club entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:58945 (19:13:36) 10:54 yay 11:01 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 11:01 dnh has artifact elf rings, but not the nazgul rings or the one ring 11:02 you mean narya, nenya, vilya? 11:02 those would be pretty craptastic compared to the general nethack artifact :-) 11:02 yes, and lomya (lolth's ring) 11:03 lomya does not sound like Quenya 11:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 11:04 https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dNAO/commit/32793670fbe600d2e7b3ad36c1d2b6dfc04c197e 11:04 I'm not sure where that name comes from 11:06 made up by someone who didn't understand the Quenya names of the three rings and smooshed the ending on "Lolth", presumably :-) 11:09 so even though i had fireball in inventory i also got a blessed spellbook of fireball when i was crowned (in addition to unlocking my wielded weapon) 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4171 (0:41:14) 11:15 come ON did i miss a message about the locust making my dragon sick :-( 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a quasit, on T:4435 (0:47:05) 11:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:59353 (19:41:19) 11:21 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:22 ooh yeah half way! 11:24 everything's coming up milhouse! 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +1 spear on an altar, on T:5001 (0:56:11) 11:29 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/2b37268b09f8...397510c57d4e 11:29 [EvilHack] k21971 397510c - Convert the named ring of invisibility found in Gollum's cave to an actual artifact. 11:30 Wow stealth, search and inv. 11:31 invoke for confused gold detection (detect and id traps)! 11:31 yeah, nice lil combo there 11:32 Knowing K2 there's probably gonna be some actual corruption drawback thrown in 11:32 it should be auto-cursing 11:32 like a loadstone 11:32 could be 11:32 but then no one would want to use it 11:32 infidels :-) 11:32 :P 11:32 it generates cursed at least 11:32 people with clerical spells 11:33 Take it there'll be a special message from hobbits that see it? 11:33 no 11:33 how about reduce xp gain by 100% when worn (only 50% for hobbits :-) 11:33 it didnt have a pref towards hobbits 11:33 no but hobbits are better able to resist its corrupting effect 11:34 due to the second breakfasts 11:35 periodic effect when warn: spawn vengeful barrow wight or wraith :-) 11:35 wraith farming 11:35 huh no :P 11:35 nazgul i mean, obv not the eating wraiths 11:36 no levels from eating wraiths while worn and for 500 turns after removal! 11:36 no the eating wraiths are fine too :) 11:36 that's interesting 11:36 gollum is same difficulty? 11:36 yes 11:36 how about when wearing the One Ring it will periodically have a chance of cursing your other ring 11:36 (and itself) 11:37 or the easiest and kinda sensible "bad" shtick: hunger 11:37 stealth search inv hunger 11:37 no shut up hunger is not impactful and also annoying 11:37 lore 11:38 you tell me to shut up an awful lot, logger...you must be a very sensible person 11:38 why yes of course :) 11:41 it could cancel out any drain resistance. or no MC protection agains drain resistance. 11:41 nazgul stabs you always :( 11:42 these downside ideas are fun but they would make the ring not worth wearing at all 11:42 it's only invis, stealth and searching 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:66991 (11:24:29) 11:42 wraiths aren't around all the time. 11:43 so now that the one ring actually exists, should nazgul always spawn with a ring of invis? 11:44 do they not always? 11:44 they always do 11:44 nine nazgul rings are different from the one ring. 11:44 oh I see what you mean 11:44 Nine rings for mortal men doomed to die... 11:45 we could have some fun with this. but for now i just wanted it to be an actual thing, lil bit extra story flavor 11:45 can we lump a nazgul buff in with this 11:45 you can read it :) 11:45 I want them to be scaaaary 11:45 Especially if you touch the one ring in the game atleast once. 11:45 Oh, I asked about the hobbit message because they ask you about the One Ring when chatting in vanilla 11:45 oh hah, I see the reading message. nice 11:46 oh yeah umbire brings up a good point 11:46 Umbire gotcha 11:49 k2: since you can #forge now....nine rings from nazgul, 7 from dwarf lords... 11:49 the one ring can bring them and bind them 11:49 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:49 for can forge the 7 + 5 bit by bit into the one ring to regain their power 11:49 the one 'one ring' 11:50 aha, then you can make the ring actually powerful since you don't get it right away 11:50 that's a fun idea 11:50 give it astral vision 11:50 eye can see everything. 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:5239 (1:20:38) 11:51 What. that can happen!? 11:51 yeah only knights can dip for excal 11:51 eye of vecna already has astral vision, give it invoke magic mapping 11:53 i would love to see dwarf lords and red dragons have a small chance to drop one of the 7 dwarven rings 11:53 that would be very cool 11:53 uhh I mean shut up krm26! 11:53 :p 11:54 i wouldnt do anything with the three, they weren't involved with sauron anyway 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:5588 (1:24:04) 11:54 It could be something incremental... we might not get all the rings. 11:54 dbanethacker has not gotten the excalibur memo 11:55 incoming "dbanethacker has joined" 11:55 he is trying to uncurse it. 11:55 any time people play evilhack without joining this channel you can bet their ears are burning 11:55 lol yeah 11:56 an entire channel of statlers and waldorfs 11:56 neutrals can't dip for excalibur anyway 11:56 even in vanilla 11:57 oh yeah I didn't even notice that he was neutral 11:58 some things from LotR universe translate alright to nethack. some dont 11:58 I may have to send some mail 11:58 adding all the different rings of power would be unbalancing 11:58 I think it should give warning of nazgul 11:59 if anything it's nazgul-aligned 11:59 which makes me ask - when tf is 2nd season of 'the rings of power' gonna drop? 11:59 the rings really dont do anything in game-mechanics terms (at best cursed invis but honestly they shouldn't even really do anything but be cursed) 11:59 Noisytoot that's a good idea 11:59 jus stuff to accumulate to forge into the One Ring to maybe add warning or whatever 12:00 their power was "longevity and thx to sauron corruption and fading" 12:00 even the three rings' power was basically "not get so depressed about the waning" 12:00 dammit 2nd season not until next year 12:01 will need to rewatch first season 12:01 i enjoy hot spock in strange new worlds more than hot elrond in rings of power 12:02 we've really enjoyed 'strange new worlds' also 12:03 last season was good 12:03 'hot spock' hahahah 12:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:10 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:14 ogre kings have become tough with knock back. almost got slimed. 12:14 Suddenly I realize maybe I already have all artifact gifts. 12:15 hahaha removed ball with nymph on level one: the nymph drops a scroll, I read it, punishment :P 12:15 hehehe 12:15 Lol 12:16 The spirit of a convict :) 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 2075 points, T:3165, poisoned by a dwarf zombie 12:19 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 12:20 I have Secespita, Angelslayer, Luck Blade, Stormbringer, Werebane, Sunsword, Dragonbane ad Armor of Retribution. 12:20 Is ther any gift artifact left? 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:3723 (0:08:53) 12:20 I don't think so xdminsy 12:20 Seems you are doing right this game. 12:21 yes once I get luck blade, that is when I can start cooking 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3805 (0:10:03) 12:21 Loggers I think you already ascend lol. 12:22 Confidence. 12:22 lol, Con-fidence 12:22 Lol. 12:23 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:24 YASI: forging 2 heavy iron balls together makes a heavier iron ball 12:25 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 327 points, T:1246, killed by a gnome lord 12:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:5445 (0:14:42) 12:27 hahaha removed ball with nymph on level one: the nymph drops a scroll, I read it, punishment :P <--- bwahahah 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a gold shield of reflection entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:5992 (0:16:28) 12:28 it's fine I pulled through and now the chain is gone :) 12:29 XP level 6 and 34 HP though SUCKS 12:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:33 Shield of reflection is a nice reward for it all too 12:34 Seems great, I never got gifted that one. 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Fem Neu) murdered her faithful newt, on T:1309 (0:12:27) 12:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:7618 (0:27:41) 12:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:42 It's a fairly rare gift in general 12:43 i remember getting nothing but shields i didn't want last time i ran a giant priest 12:43 the One Ring should be readable only if you've been hit with a fire attack with it in your inventory (or zapped it with fire recently) :) 12:44 probably would be complicated to do and basically pointless but it would be a nice touch 12:45 At some point, implementing details like that takes you down an unproductive development path, away from "improve the game" toward "clone this other legendarium as closely as possible". 12:46 Doing one or two of them here or there is mostly harmless, but focusing too much effort on that kind of thing is bad. 12:46 Well, bad if your goal is to have a fun game. 12:47 yeah definitely have to limit the number of things like that you waste time on 12:49 Lol not bad if somebody's willing to do such work. 12:51 I remember there's a tip hat function in 3.7. 12:51 K2, on second glance, most mgazeu attacks only have a chance of happening, so 1 in 4 is in line with the others. On the other hand, all the mhitm cases always happen 12:51 That's funny, but I never use it :| 12:51 xdminsy: you can use it to tell if a monster's helmet is cursed :) 12:51 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 12:52 if it's cursed the monster won't be able to remove it to tip his hat back to you 12:52 I never really do it either but I like fun little mostly-pointless things like that 12:52 Lol, I see, I remember few monsters can reply with me. 12:52 maybe you read the One Ring only when you dip it in a forge 12:52 terrapin: oh, that would probably be a lot easier to implement 12:53 Given the difficulty of getting a hostile monster to pick up and wear armor you want them to pick up and wear (I've had to do it for bug-reproducing purposes, and it is a _serious_ hassle), I don't think that's actually all that useful. 12:53 terrapin i'd follow current convention then 12:53 yeah, i think the only marginally useful thing is if you see a dwarf in the mines and you're trying to get a dwarvish helm you can tip your hat at him to see if he's wearing (an uncursed) one and is worth killing 12:54 yay, less work! 12:54 but i never actually use it either, i just like things like that where really it's just a fun touch but you can think of a creative way to use it 12:56 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:57 jonadab, you do it with monsters that already have helms 12:58 If they're wearing one, they tip it, and if it's a type you want then you sic your pet on them 13:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:20 level 7 and 37 HP... 13:20 christ 13:21 this might be the lowest I've ever had it 13:21 gonna have to pray for golden glow, I guess 13:22 Yak, I nearly forget that. 13:26 YANI: If you pray with a zombie corpse on a coaligned altar, the god destroys the corpse(s) 13:26 YANI: if your dog zaps you with a wide-angle disintegration beam, it destroys the corpse 13:26 s/dog/god/ 13:27 YANI: give dogs the ability to zap you with wide-angle disintegration beams 13:27 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 13:27 hahaha 13:29 that would be too much like real life 13:29 supposed to be escapist 13:29 oooh bouquest ghost to datamine 13:29 i suspect the reason you don't get disintegration from crowning is because your god wants to keep at least one weapon to use against you 13:30 *disintegration resistance 13:30 my dog is always zapping me with wide-angel disintegration beams, I play NetHack to escape from this hell :( 13:30 https://xkcd.com/729/ 13:32 lol terrapin 13:32 oooh bouquet you left me dragonbane 13:32 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:32 AND CLOAK OF MR 13:32 omigodomigod now i just have to live to your pile of death 13:34 can i avoid getting polymorphed... 13:36 DOH cursed weapons dont hit ghosts :-) 13:36 You have a cloak of MR, remember 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Dem Fem Una) destroyed the invisible bouquet's ghost, the former Pilferer, on T:60700 (21:38:46) 13:36 fireball 13:36 not yet i dont 13:36 NOW i do 13:37 i did what i always do like an idiot tho and immediately pop on dragonbane while i have a dragon pet 13:44 if I had a nickel for every time you did that I would probably have like 25 cents 13:45 per month 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:39817 (1 day, 2:25:51) 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:39821 (1 day, 2:26:29) 13:49 Almost died. Marilith gated in one after another :| 13:50 yeah yeenoghu's a right bastard in this 13:52 Always was tbh 13:52 but more 13:52 here 13:53 he's annoying in vanilla if you don't have MR but butcher+MR not totally negating magic missiles makes me hate him 13:55 butcher is pretty bad. I was down to 2HP here. 13:55 no half damage. 13:57 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin opened pull request #136: Slowing and dragon-scaled armors - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/pull/136 14:00 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:03 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 14:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:40151 (1 day, 2:41:52) 14:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:40171 (1 day, 2:42:21) 14:06 Sadly I may not forge AoR next time. 14:06 nickel = 5 cents apparently 14:07 heh 14:07 I tried to fight a knight with -35 AC, maybe attack him 100 turns can he's still alive. 14:07 I wish I could have SoA... 14:07 terrapin looking over the PR now 14:08 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:11 SoA is too good a weapon. Wish AoR gave disintegration resistance to weapons wielded too. 14:12 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:13 AoR's op enough already 14:14 But it's really a pain to kill that -36 AC knight :( 14:15 I check his state, his hp is almost full every time, I can't imagine what if I have no drain resistance how could I kill him.. 14:15 Oooops, drain level. 14:18 just ignore him if you cannot kill him 14:19 I see, may avoid next time. 14:20 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 14:24 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 14:24 hmm, giants can't wear cloaks, so how can i make dragon scaled armor? 14:25 you dont 14:25 you cant wear armor either 14:25 polymorph, but you won't be able to wear it 14:25 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:25 there's one exception 14:25 (except for cheating sammies) 14:25 so useless unless it's for a pet or permapolying 14:25 you can wear tiamat's scales 14:25 giant samurai if they get the chromatic scales drop from tiamat 14:27 ah i'm a giant samurai 14:27 \o/ 14:27 so you can farm for tiamat and hope you get lucky 14:29 hmm 14:29 can i wish for 'dragonhide large splint mail', does it exist? 14:29 metal only 14:30 bone or mithril 14:30 i *think* bone? don't quote me. definitely mithril 14:31 bone works for metallic objects 14:31 oh man giants have a hard time 14:34 yeah but they also get to dual wield two handers and rend everything in their path 14:35 need to find myself two handers 14:38 tempest + hammer of the gods! 14:40 wow polearm skill kind of sucks 14:40 no one can get expert in it? 14:40 no one's every tried :-) 14:41 heh 14:41 The tsuguri seems fancy. 14:41 now that there's an actually good polearm in the game maybe those skills should be readjusted a liiitle bit? just food for thought :) 14:41 tsurugis are very good 14:41 I thought to dual wield tsurugi and lifestealer or sword of kas. 14:41 for any race 14:42 But those can't dual-wield lol :P 14:42 better yet, just dual wield lifestealer+kas 14:42 not if you're lawful tho 14:42 that's a combo I've been dying to try for ages 14:42 yeah if you're lawful kas is bad 14:42 but who plays lawful amiright 14:43 i mean, sammies 14:43 Lifestealer seems weak. 14:43 krm26: my giant sam doesn't have hammer skill unrestricted, although i have Sunsword and Demonbane 14:43 lifestealer is probably not good but it is badass 14:43 does forging alone unrestrict the skill? if not, probably need to keep farming altar for a hammer gift? 14:44 krm26: permaconvert 14:44 yeah have to receive mjollnir to unrestrict 14:44 What's lawful crowning gift? 14:44 Lawful character, probably need a regular hammer 14:44 excal 14:45 simply permaconvert to neutral 14:45 Then do I still wield a long sword to get Excalibur? 14:45 yes 14:45 Loggers_VIII: ah maybe i'll try that once i find a helm 14:45 Then what if just wield a hammer and crown.. 14:47 I see in vanilla lawful's advantage seems only Excalibur, or maybe good sacrifice gift. 14:47 xdminsy you won't unlock hammer skill unless you have excalibur in inventory 14:49 Ha, then isn't it unfair? I see only knight can dip for Excalibur. 14:49 Or, maybe in Evilhack you could be gift one Excalibur? 14:49 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 14:49 only wishing possible 14:50 Maybe not, I remember my last valk, seems I have no Excalibur, I totally forgot about it. 14:50 Yes, so that means lawful non-knight characters, cannot unlock skills by crowning if not wishing Excalibur. 14:51 I see why you just convert neutral :P 14:52 permaconversion is the bread and butter of forcing the game to let you do whatever the hell you want 14:53 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 7 commits to master [+0/-0/±43] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/397510c57d4e...861a2d4b8477 14:53 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin e01d230 - Tweaks to slowing 14:53 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 97d5f0c - Make blue dragons immune to slowing 14:53 [EvilHack] saltwaterterrapin 641e9bd - Fix: Dragon scale passive attacks and more slowing stuff 14:53 [EvilHack] ... and 4 more commits. 14:53 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:9433 (0:36:11) 14:55 wow, sexy 14:55 now I can unlock long sword skill 14:56 Sunsword drow :P 14:56 you can do that if you wear shadow dragon armor :) 14:56 I'm thinking I'll dual-wield SoA and HotG 14:57 wait how can Lawful -> Neutral? Helm of oppo means lawful goes to chaotic? 14:57 yes 14:57 you need to luck into a random neutral altar 14:57 to convert on 14:57 You pray on a neutral altar with negative alignemnt record. 14:57 so not reliable at all 14:57 no you offer 14:57 I'm now wielding angelslayer and stormy. 14:58 the easiest way is to sacrifice a white unicorn on whatever altar you want to convert to that's guaranteed conversion 14:58 xdminsy that's a good combo 14:58 Ah yes, sacrifice lol, I haven't do that once. 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a steel knife entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:9582 (0:39:46) 14:58 Yes, but I think I miss SoA. 14:58 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:59 I have never used stormy once in 3.7. 14:59 My 5 or 6 rogues all use Grayswandir :P 14:59 Loggers_VIII: my game has one. although a priest is next to it and not sure i can handle the priest 15:00 Maybe you can crown later. 15:01 you can also wish for excal and then just crown for hammer skill 15:01 All my this game is farming I think. 15:01 well you farmed an unnecessary amount 15:01 all you need is stormbringer until after the castle 15:02 Lol cuz I'm every unfamiliar with EvilHack. 15:02 Oh I remember that when there's a centaur in mines level 1 blocking my way. 15:02 I can't beat it, then I just farm a lot and got luckblade to kill it. 15:03 I found that even get rid of the iron ball, con dro is still very weak :P 15:03 luckblade my beloved <3 15:06 Lol I'm not sure what if I have no altar what should I do. 15:07 Farming gives armors make sacrificing more valuable. 15:07 And forging artifacts. 15:07 if you have no altar you just forge a mithril broadsword and aklys 15:08 Okay I see, and there's a guranteed altar in kathryn's realm. 15:08 what have a done 15:09 I 15:09 forged artifacts = crack 15:10 this is your brain on forged artifacts: % 15:11 in demon form am i assume i am still engulfable? 15:11 yes 15:11 yup 15:11 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 15:12 oh hello shadow 15:13 Hi. 15:13 Hello xdminsy, Welcome to #evilhack 15:14 Hi shadowrid :P 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:41123 (1 day, 3:47:16) 15:25 some quests have guaranteed altars of certain alignments (useful for permaconversion) 15:25 i ahve been toying around with adding another role besides druid. its an existing role in splicehack - dragon rider 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Lolth, on T:20206 (1:05:03) 15:25 what do you all think? do it or waste of time? 15:26 i've tried dragon rider a little and imo it adds nothing 15:26 I would like to see dragon rider implemented in a more interesting way 15:26 I think you could do it justice 15:26 you can also make chaotic altars with same-race sacrifice 15:26 from the wiki: "If the altar is lawful or neutral, it will immediately be converted to chaotic (except on the Astral Plane),[60] independent of your alignment; if there is a priest tending the altar, they will be angered.[61]" 15:27 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:27 so it is always possible to permaconvert to at least chaotic 15:27 -- but i wouldn't ask that question until we get a chance to see druid. honestly i think hacknslash roles are represented more than well enough right now 15:27 i'll admit i havent played dragon rider more than a couple times in splicehack 15:27 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 15:27 what makes it lackluster in splicehack? 15:28 there's just nothing really special about it besides the fact you start with a dragon 15:28 i think dragon rider, like a lot of other new roles in variants, suffers from the "knight but better", "rogue but better", etc. syndrome 15:28 ah 15:28 like all the class variants that started to pop up in dragon magazine in the 80s :-) 15:29 there was one thing about that role that caught my eye, I looked at the code, I think I could make a better version of this feature: 15:29 infernal, super-different; druid, sounds like it will be quite different and help balance caster vs non-caster roles 15:29 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Dragon_rider#Assistance 15:29 I think some sort of pet role would be cool but dragon rider is meh 15:30 druid would be the ultimate pet role i think 15:30 cool 15:30 #amuletsforpets 15:30 heh 15:30 i mean the assistance does sound cool but doesn't seem tied to dragon riders. it could be a general feature or a druid feature or something, with a wider variety of pets that will assist you 15:31 druid should get some sort of sacrifice bonus (this is a feature that enhances my quality of life which can be disguised as flavor) 15:31 terrapin, the assistance bit, i was thinking of making that a thing regardless of race/role 15:31 but, only for intelligent pets 15:31 yeah that would be neat 15:31 druids should not be allowed to sacrifice animals 15:31 or plants 15:31 your pet lichen isnt going to nudge you awake 15:32 maybe druids should have a whole new sacrifice mechanic in fact 15:32 ^ :) 15:32 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:32 druids shouldnt be allowed to use altars 15:32 probably too much work 15:33 ^ this 15:33 grab your smop and get cleaning 15:33 smop this 15:33 how many smoots wide is the dungeon? 15:33 'druid shouldn't be allowed to use altars' dear god no 15:34 about 160 smoots? 15:34 oh before i forget - terrapin your magic chest bit, where did that go? 15:34 Lol not a good news to farmers :P 15:35 but I love farming 15:35 heh 15:35 https://github.com/saltwaterterrapin/EvilHack/tree/magic-chest 15:35 ah hah 15:35 i mean historical druids were known for murdering captive romans on altars, so there is that 15:36 that's what I'M saying 15:37 please k2. a small bonus to all sacs. I make an offering of 15 8 ball wishes :p 15:37 @e?watch captain 15:37 watch captain (@) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 17 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 15 | Gen: special | AC: 10 | Atk: 4d5 weapon physical, 3d5 weapon physical | Align: -4 | genocidable, omnivore, nopoly, stalker, infravis 15:37 lol 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Venus, on T:41395 (1 day, 3:59:50) 15:37 If druid cannot use altars, well can they use it for buc test? 15:38 so. i'd love for magic chests to be in next version. have wanted those forever 15:38 Seems innate atheist. 15:38 terrapin is the only one to try and do it on 3.6 code afaik 15:38 this bit worries me though 'It hangs out at (0,0) on whatever level you're on and follows you whenever you change levels.' 15:38 i think qt had some reservations about that too 15:39 i mean...fair 15:39 i was kinda shocked that it seemed to work as well as it did 15:39 heh 15:39 well idk if it'd actually cause problems, I just said I would probably have made a special magic chest linked list that gets saved and restored, and have magic chests hook into that 15:40 i was looking at how dynahack does it 15:40 but i would not be surprised if there was some cases where it caused problems 15:40 and some of its code doesnt exist in 3.6 15:40 or 3.7 for that matter 15:41 maybe qt could collaborate with terrapin on magic chests 15:42 Loggers_VIII has several 8 ball wishes to dole out as payment 15:42 :P 15:42 yeah, alright 15:42 make it so you can wish for the 8 ball only using the 8 ball and you've got yourself a deal :P 15:42 heh 15:43 Catching up on backlog: polearms can be damn solid but they're even better if riding, just that no one goes out of the way to use even the actual decent polearms 15:43 'cept me 'cause I'm a fuckin' freak like that sometimes 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a platinum amulet of reflection, on T:14711 (2:00:15) 15:46 ewww this guy uses polearms! ban him now!!11!! 15:47 i wouldn't touch them with a 10-foot pole 15:47 i wouldn't touch a 10-foot pole, for that matter 15:48 Never ever used one two-handed weapon :P 15:49 Maybe once a unihorn. 15:51 they are too heavy 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15226 (4:40:53) 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:21723 (1:24:55) 16:00 holy shit another magic lamp just deathdropped 16:01 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 16:02 aw, no wish :( 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:22893 (1:28:58) 16:07 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:09 I don't main them but I do try them out now and then 16:11 "An uncursed bag called sack containing 24 items lands on the altar. From inside the bag called sack, you see multi-colored flashes. o - an uncursed bag called sack containing 23 items." 16:11 what happened to the 24th item 16:11 Stack merge? 16:11 yup 16:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:19 well so much for infidel, not gonna do this again :-P 16:19 quitter 16:19 yup 16:19 :P 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Loggers the human zombie, and former Inmate, on T:24642 (1:43:52) 16:20 two full mana bars of my advanced fireball and 5 blessed scrolls of fire reduced paladin from 108 to 102 hit points, then he summoned a bunch of buddies with wands of striking to take apart my boulder fort 16:20 are u dead 16:20 K2: this is not a complete magic chest implementation but just a crappy proof of concept I threw together quickly, just to demonstrate how it'd be pretty easy to do it with a dedicated linked list. it is just a minimal "sort of works but the code sucks and is incomplete" thing 16:20 i mean, i haven't used the round yet to let him steal my amulet and kill me, but it is definitely happening 16:20 https://termbin.com/6psv 16:21 hey k2 my drow convict turned into a human zombie in bones is that normal 16:22 you could probably build on terrapin's patch but just replace the traveling chest at 0,0 with the dedicated global mchest_cobj 16:22 will magic chests be actual items that can be moved before being bolted down as in dnh? 16:22 noisytoot I don't think so 16:22 well, they are in that minimal patch I just shared. but like I said that's just a minimal proof of concept, they don't get bolted down or anything, the point of that patch is just to demonstrate how the linked list would work and be saved/loaded 16:23 in that patch they are just normal chests that happen to draw from a single shared contents list 16:23 oh I guess there's some extra unrelated crap in there too like the dog.c part :) 16:24 that was from when I was trying to understand if a xorn would eat your ball and chain if you threw it at him 16:24 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:27 yeah, a global entity of some kind does seem better 16:28 main thing I wanted to avoid by putting it at 0,0 was worrying about save/restore stuff, but that probably wouldn't be too much of a pain really 16:29 also global variables scare me 16:30 the save/restore parts are actually very simple, it's just 1 restobjchn and 1 saveobjchn call in the appropriate places in that proof of concept patch and it seems to work fine 16:30 qt neat 16:31 Noisytoot, magic chest for evilhack would be like it is in dynahack/fiqhack - actual furniture, such as a throne or a sink. doesnt move 16:31 personally i dont like dnethack's implementation 16:31 why don't you like it? it seems kind of cool to me that you can choose where to put it 16:32 that plus the 10 different key holes 16:32 i just dont like it 16:32 The 10 keyholes are just a stash-sorting feature 16:32 oh yeah idk about that 16:32 being able to move it just sounds neat 16:32 1 for foods, 2 for scrolls and books, 3 for potions, 4 for amulets... 16:32 But I can see how it's not your style 16:33 so mobileuser, i hit paladin with 6 advanced fireballs and 5 blessed scrolls of fire and did 6hp of damage to him. 16:33 being able to move it feels a bit overpowered 16:33 Did you center the fireballs on the Paladin? 16:33 right next to him 16:33 scenario - take one with you to astral, bolt it down, now you just brought a bazillion things with you to astral 16:33 Feel like a lot of them either missed her or else she just out-healed them 16:33 Or there's genuinely something bugged up 16:33 doesn't it weigh so much that it basically instantly overburdens you K2? 16:33 Just trying to exhaust possibilities 16:33 it weights 1001aum, easier to wish for one on astral 16:34 which you can do 16:34 i dont know for sure 16:34 despite what the wiki says 16:34 ah 16:34 yeah OP 16:34 6 hp damage?? weird 16:34 i'd rather it just be a piece of furniture, done deal 16:34 well i managed to teleport her 1 square away and run 16:34 Yeah it's always 1 over default carrycap but doing so on Astral is pretty win more 16:34 well you could just make it unwishable and then nobody would be able to bring it to astral 16:34 so i'll just never do the quest 16:35 or just leave it as a piece of furniture 16:35 it seems to me it's not that powerful if you can't bring it to astral, all being movable means is that you can actually put it in your base instead of being forced to trot back and forth between the magic chest in location X and the altar 10 levels down if you want to use the chest 16:35 Yeah making unwishable seems like an easy "minimum" solve, never mind that you probably don't have that kinda of time on the run up to Astral anyway 16:35 -of 16:35 Making it furniture isn't wrong at all 16:36 but I haven't played dnh that much so idk if there's some additional reason it's really that powerful rather than just convenient 16:36 paladin is not supposed to resist fire krm26 I don't get it 16:36 Nasty stuff awakens on the ascension run 16:36 qt in the variants where its furniture, magic chests are located in key places where most players make their stash anyways 16:36 there are ways to get more than 1001aum carrycap in dnh (polymorph into a gigantic form gives you a lot), but in evilhack it would probably be too heavy to be practical to carry to astral (unless there are ways to get a lot more carrycap) 16:36 i thought people usually make their stashes where there are altars 16:36 probed and made sure he didnt have a ring of fire resistance of whatever also. maybe he's got an oprop :-) 16:36 Sokoban is a popular stash level 16:37 that's what I do anyway unless I'm going to have the eye 16:37 (and incidentally one of the chest locations) 16:37 Noisytoot, you can get your carry cap up to 1500 16:37 in eh 16:37 eye of the aethiopica I mean 16:37 K2: that leaves you with 499 aum for everything else 16:37 And in any case when I say nasty stuff appears on ascension run I MEAN nasty, to the point where you NEED to run if you plan to actually ascend 16:37 Noisytoot, someone'll at least try to minmax that out I'm sure 16:37 yeah i dont like the idea of being able to carry around a magic chest 16:38 Dread seraphs will son you if you stick around 16:38 i never enjoyed dnh's implementation 16:38 ok back in a bit 16:38 you should cursed gain level if you enter a level with a dread seraph 16:39 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 16:39 krm26 did you use the advanced spell? 16:39 I guess you did, just checking 16:40 yup 16:40 @e?paladin 16:40 Paladin (@) | Lvl: 24 | Diff: 29 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon stun, 1d8 cast clerical, 1d6 claw amulet steal | Align: 20 | omnivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravis 16:41 of course once his buddies struck my boulder fort i couldn't hit paladin either with my measly expert 32 TH 16:41 yeah, paladin is horribly difficult 16:42 go in with woolly mammoths :-P 16:42 it would be nice if i could charm monsters for sure 16:42 no taming scrolls? 16:42 i have a 10% failure rate reading level 1 spellbooks :-) 16:43 oof 16:43 i've had one taming scroll -- used it on my nice yellow dragon pet. then i found bouquet's bones with dragonbane and unpeaced my pet like a moron (i have a 100% rate of doing that) 16:44 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:44 I saw. You're going to quit the game? 16:46 oh no, thought for sure i was gonna die, but was able to get him 1 square away with wand of teleport so i just left 16:46 ah good 16:46 if he'd snagged the amulet it would have been all over 16:46 yeah for sure... 16:47 he used to be a she I think 16:47 or 50% chance? 16:47 can't remember 16:47 since i have bouquet's cloak of mr i'll just try him/her (didn't check) again after kathryn 16:47 good luck! 16:48 bedtime for me... 16:48 Paladin is always female 16:48 t. wrote her article on the wiki 16:48 ah, thx 16:48 Though, lemme check again 16:48 heh 16:49 yeah, wiki says female 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:73455 (13:33:26) 16:50 Righthttps://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/src/monst.c#L4251 eyup 16:51 I wonder if gender can be changed in the monster init? 16:53 no, it doesn't 16:53 (makemon,c) 16:54 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a steel spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:74308 (13:42:26) 17:00 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 17:02 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 17:02 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02 yeah paladin is prob one of the toughest quest nemesis 17:02 tomsod did that on purpose from the looks of it 17:05 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:07 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:07 qt i got the notice from github 17:07 30 min ago 17:07 'account will soon require 2FA' 17:07 guess i better set that up now before krm26 tries to hack my account 17:07 abandon github and switch to something that is free software 17:08 i dont pay to use github 17:08 I mean free as in freedom. GitHub is proprietary and requires proprietary JavaScript. 17:09 * K2 shrugs 17:09 that doesnt concern me 17:11 Is it possible to send patches or bug reports without using GitHub (or having a GitHub account)? 17:12 yes 17:12 qt does it all the time 17:13 yeah I do 17:15 as for bug reports, just tell K2 on IRC about the bug 17:15 lots of people do that 17:17 That's the work flow I've always used. Host the git repo on a provider but do everything else out of band. 17:18 (Originally I hosted on gitorious, but had to switch when they went under. Currently it's on github, but if anything happens to them, I can host elsewhere.) 17:20 I don't think it's possible to disable PRs, so you still get people who don't read documentation submitting PRs (linux is an example) 17:21 At some point somebody who didn't understand this, complained that I hadn't responded when he reported a bug using one of github's web-interface features that I didn't know existed. I went into the settings and figured out how to disable it, so that wouldn't keep happening. One person criticized me for this, but I stand by it: I am not willing to add checking the github web interface on a regular 17:21 basis just in case someone might have put some information there that would be relevant to me. 17:21 hey k2 my drow convict turned into a human zombie in bones is that normal <--- no that is not 17:21 ah he isnt here 17:21 should be an easy fix 17:21 Is there such a thing as a drow zombie? 17:22 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 17:22 jonadab: lol I was writing exactly that 17:22 phrased exactly the same way 17:22 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:22 you beat me to it :) 17:22 qt: Which, the zombie? 17:23 yes there are drow zombies 17:23 yes, "Is there such a thing as a drow zombie?" 17:23 Personally I would not have listed "more types of zombies" as something the game needs. 17:24 it needs zombies for each player race 17:24 with the addition of drow race, it didnt make sense to then leave out drow mummies/zombies 17:24 otherwise what are they supposed to rise as when killed by a zombie? 17:24 alternatively, implement derived undead 17:24 for centaur/tortle, it felt ok to leave them off of the zombie list 17:24 better yet, integrated undead 17:25 I mean, what happens when a player is killed by a zombie while polymorphed? 17:25 they rehumanize :) 17:25 jk I get what you mean 17:25 Unchanging exists. 17:25 that's why I said jk I get what you mean 17:25 yup i see what i did (or more correctly, didnt do) 17:26 wait... i did do the thing 17:26 drow were added to zombie_form() 17:26 what do centaurs/tortles killed by zombies rise as? 17:26 i may have left them out of another spot 17:26 Noisytoot they dont 17:26 ghosts as usual? 17:27 yeah 17:28 YASI: when a candle or lamp is running low and starts flickering, it provides light every other turn. 17:30 hmmm 17:30 I have a suspicion 17:30 but I'm not sure 17:30 about the zombie thing 17:31 K2 are you able to test quickly if _other_ non-human races are arising as the right kind of zombies, or if it's just drow that are broken? 17:31 yeah one min 17:31 or if it's _not_ just drow rather 17:32 I think it's going to all be broken 17:32 and it's my fault 17:32 MY FAULT 17:32 Your body rises from the dead as a drow zombie... 17:32 so there's that 17:32 lets check bones 17:32 wait what? 17:32 maybe I'm wrong then... 17:33 wizard the drow zombie 17:33 i'm not seeing any issue here 17:33 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 17:33 maybe loggers was tripping on acid 17:33 wait 17:34 done_in_by uses zombie_form and really_done uses urace.zombienum 17:35 maybe some deaths bypass the urace.zombienum thing? 17:35 hrm 17:35 or vice-versa 17:35 are you actually setting zombienum? 17:36 yeah it seems like it is set 17:37 !lastgame loggers 17:37 qt: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1693239044.evil.html 17:38 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:39 K2 here is the zombie dump:  https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1693171309.evil.html 17:40 yeah that shows you were killed by a zombie 17:40 you then didnt arise as one 17:41 and there was a human zombie present also 17:41 Well that’s strange considering I got that bones and killed a human zombie named Loggers 17:41 why do you say he didn't arise as one 17:41 you'll get the message 17:41 Hecubus reported me destroying zombie-me earlier, check logs 17:41 doesnt that message also go into the dumplog? 17:42 I think it may not 17:42 not sure 17:42 hm 17:42 weird 17:42 this feels like an elaborate hack by Loggers_VIII to distract us from what he's really up to 17:43 qt i think Loggers_VIII is trying to steal your yubikey! 17:43 * K2 gasps 17:43 I can reproduce it too 17:43 I just died as a drow and became a human zombie 17:43 I’m innocent! Never committed a crime in my life :) 17:43 oh well then 17:43 Loggers_VIII said he's innocent 17:43 case closed 17:43 let me figure this out. I'll keep an eye on my yubikey while I do it though 17:43 just in case 17:43 :P 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:19670 (5:17:06) 17:44 I have a vague idea about what could be happening but not sure 17:44 qt cool 17:46 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 17:47 K2 when you rose from the grave normally as a drow zombie what exactly happened? did you actually die and create bones or did you rise from the grave in-game and continue playing? 17:48 and did you die of sickness or just from an outright attack? 17:48 or rather, were you sick from a zombie bite when you died? 17:50 yes 17:50 I think what I said earlier is true, that this is my fault 17:50 and also it affects 3.7 :) 17:51 yeah i was bitten, got the zombo sickness and died 17:51 exited, started a new game, loaded the bones 17:51 sorry was on the phone with the boss 17:52 (my wife [real boss] not work boss) 17:52 apparently mini-me is bringing a friend maybe 2 over tonight for a sleepover, i need to straighten things up. bleh 17:52 just to have to all destroyed 2 hrs later 17:52 :) 17:52 brb 17:54 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 18:00 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 18:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:7550 (1:17:36) 18:05 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:06 K2: see https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/1091 18:19 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 18:25 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a glass spear entrusted to her by Odin, on T:22422 (6:00:36) 18:30 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:30 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 18:32 qt thanks 18:35 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:35 well it was my own fault so it's your choice between "thanks" and "damn you" 18:37 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 18:37 thank you dammit 18:37 how's that 18:40 perfect 18:42 sooo weird -- as a human wearing GoPower Ctrl+x shows you your intrinsic strength; as a demon, it does not 18:42 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/861a2d4b8477...ea694d51f029 18:42 [EvilHack] k21971 ea694d5 - Fix: rising from the grave as a zombie. 18:42 read the commit notes qt :P 18:42 haha 18:42 nice 18:43 i still think Loggers_VIII was trippin on acid 18:43 just happened to be right 18:43 can confirm, am currently on acid 18:43 \o/ 18:44 Loggers_VIII is Roger - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpWlKCfSPcU 18:47 lmao 18:48 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 18:48 the best part is when he opens the bottle of vodka to pour a drink 18:49 yeah 18:49 'is that music? hah neat' 18:49 *pour* 18:50 I love how he just immediately accepts that yes, music does play when he opens the bottle 18:50 the cigarette is the 2nd best one 18:50 *waaap* 18:50 all gone 18:50 heh 18:50 was laughing my ass off the first time i saw that scene 18:51 i told my wife that I wanna trip on acid and she about lost her mind 18:51 so if i controlled poly into demon as demon it regenerates my hp, that is why mobileuser recommends it? 18:51 it's pretty accurate, too 18:51 krm26 I think it will raise your max HP and PW 18:51 krm26 yeah i think so 18:52 could you imagine what would happen if I worked on evilhack while on an acid trip? 18:52 do that 18:52 * Pinkbeast says "you mean you don't" and runs away 18:52 I shudder at the thought 18:52 Pinkbeast <3 18:52 you would say yes to every funny idea we had :) 18:53 you'd see level 50 newt dragons on dlvl 1 with laser beams shooting out of their butt 18:53 gained some hp, lost some levels 18:54 I would pay to see how you talk on acid 18:54 who knows? never tripped 18:54 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:54 my wife says acid/lsd bad because its synthetic, too strong. would rather i eat some shrooms instead 18:55 drink a potion of acid 18:55 lol noisytoot 18:55 hah 18:56 qt how hard would it be to work in your magic chest bit with terrapin's? 18:56 or does your patch assume a chest as an object? 18:56 vs furniture 18:57 it's an object in that example 18:58 I haven't looked that hard at terrapin's patch but I would assume it's not that hard, just rip out whatever part relates to the 0,0 chest and replace it with the global pointer (and the save/restore parts for that) 18:58 the only part you'd really have to keep is the part having to do with that pointer (called mchest_cobj or something in the diff i posted) 18:58 will magic chests be monster proof 18:58 yeah 18:59 they'd be offlimits to monsters 18:59 FR if you put a troll corpse in one, IDK, something annoying 18:59 or maybe allow them to loot, i dunno 18:59 they'd be magic proof like a crystal chest 18:59 so no poly/tele/etc 19:00 and damage proof too 19:00 qt gotcha 19:00 where will they be placed? 19:00 will there be one near an altar somewhere? 19:00 allowing monsters to loot them could go bad if you've entered a level with a magic chest and have already stashed your stuff in a previous one, monster could get to your stuff 19:00 i need to look again where dynahack puts them 19:00 but they are placed in key spots that make sense 19:01 Loggers_VIII yeah true 19:01 prob be best to just make them off limits 19:01 OR 19:01 they default to locked 19:01 i dunno, will figure it out 19:01 monsters can have keys 19:01 true 19:01 maybe locked like a crystal chest 19:01 you'd have to put in a fair bit of effort to allow monsters or magic to interact with them if they're furniture, anyway 19:02 terrapin yeah good point 19:02 possibly a fair bit of effort to allow locking as well 19:02 if furniture, monsters wont even treat it like it exists 19:03 YANI: allow humanoid monsters to forge, upgrade their weapons and armor 19:03 that would be... a lot of work i think 19:04 epi: allow monsters to sit on thrones and possible gain a wish. if they get the genocide effect, they genocide your race 19:04 or dip in a fountain, get a water demon wish 19:04 all your fountains are gone because of that gaggle of hill orcs that spawned 19:04 epi indeed 19:04 leave my precious fountains alone! 19:04 they probably did need a bath... 19:04 Loggers_VIII: your race is ungenocidable for everyone except you 19:05 lol 19:05 in fiqhack, only a monster of the same race can genocide you by reading a scroll of genocide while confused 19:05 huh 19:06 what is fiqhack's thing? just like letting monsters do the same stuff as players? 19:06 yes 19:07 cool 19:07 i think it might be easiest to integrate the patches by having a global MAGIC_CHEST object rather than an object chain. idk if that would make save/restore harder though. maybe an object chain consisting of only the MAGIC_CHEST 19:08 hmm 19:09 you'd need an actual chest object somewhere if the magic chest is a dungeon feature unless you want to rewrite all of the looting functions 19:11 oh wait, is an object chain just an object using nobj? then it would be simple 19:16 "The orc swings his orcish broadsword named Elfrist at you. You die..." <--- VERY mean fortune cookie message 19:18 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 19:20 :P 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:27665 (2:14:22) 19:21 really wanted a boh but can't complain about that 19:24 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:36 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven long sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:22101 (3:07:23) 19:40 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven long sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:22359 (3:11:53) 19:42 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 19:47 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a lizard, on T:22872 (3:17:12) 19:47 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 37022 points, T:22887, killed by a gnoll hunter 19:48 only because he polymorphed me first. 19:50 Shit on 19:50 That sucks :c 19:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to her by Odin, on T:23416 (6:41:22) 19:54 if it's not one thing it's another. 19:54 I'm getting really good at killing the goblin king. I'm well under 10min for that now 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Quit: client quit] 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1980 (0:15:29) 20:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:29094 (2:27:40) 20:12 finally don't have to lug around luck blade, that thing's heavy 20:13 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:13 oh nice, random cursed geno :) 20:14 finally I can increase my HP beyond 65 20:14 also random rings of free action and slow digestion, this is nice 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:41619 (1 day, 4:12:28) 20:18 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:18 ha! I pickpocketed a lodestone off a dwarf. Great... 20:18 Loggers_VIII: nurse dance or foocubus? 20:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3270 (0:23:42) 20:19 bouquet nurse dancing time :) 20:19 with the random scroll, and one I wrote, all the way up to 176 20:19 I feel so much safer now 20:19 enjoy those HPs! 20:19 I, too, someday look forward to suviving as a drow :P 20:20 it's not so bad once you get past early game 20:20 the mid game as drow is pretty easy 20:21 since you get such nice to hit 20:25 oh yayy, lolth gave me a spellbook of magic missile :) 20:31 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had a banded mail entrusted to her by Venus, on T:42559 (1 day, 4:28:13) 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 4488 points, T:5157, killed by a fire ant 20:33 I had a super awesome drow rogue past castle. Was a cakewalk... until a giant punched me off a cliff in the frozen place. 20:33 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:33 I've had zero luck getting one even close since then. 20:34 it's definitely the excruciatingly low HP and not my play style at all. No sir! 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:33017 (2:53:05) 20:38 yeah the HP can reeallly suck 20:38 I think sometimes in the mid game having low HP tricks people into thinking they can't do the castle 20:38 really you just wanna rush the castle before anything else 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:43337 (1 day, 4:35:15) 20:40 It's a matter of adjusting your ability to recognize and engage threats (or disengage as it were) 20:40 Taking it a turn at a time matters a lot in vanilla and all the more here. 20:41 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:41 yeah like krm26 says I have a tendency to forget that nethack is not realtime 20:41 also, random sunsword! fun 20:42 now I can sac for frost brand, wish for demonbane and dual wield SoA+HotG 20:42 Hey better you than some random asshole that almost certainly would've killed you. 20:42 yeah a soldier just deathdropped it, was lucky none of the others picked it up 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:33597 (3:00:08) 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33599 (3:00:10) 20:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) returned The Iron Ball of Liberation to Robert the Lifer, completing his quest, on T:34074 (3:01:36) 20:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1558 (0:09:09) 20:47 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±10] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/ea694d51f029...35a7f84ecb59 20:47 [EvilHack] k21971 35a7f84 - Wearing the One Ring warns of wraith-type monsters. 20:47 ^ Noisytoot 20:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had a dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Venus, on T:43412 (1 day, 4:44:37) 20:49 yay Loggers_VIII 20:50 9:09 to kill goblin king new world record yay 20:51 I think I've done goblin king in under 2 minutes before as healer or something 20:51 also ughhhh aphrodite stole all my shit 20:52 god she's so annoying 20:55 did you get a low dlvl aphrodite? She's much less fearsom when found around dlvl 5 20:56 yeah 20:56 lvl 19 20:56 I just got cocky :p 20:56 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:56 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:44088 (1 day, 4:53:04) 20:56 as I am wont to do 20:57 since you get such nice to hit 20:57 the to-hit was an illusion 20:57 I'm not sure if that's been fixed on hardfought yet 20:57 ... what 20:58 Yeah, I forgot in all my dealing with Everything Else but drow to-hit was bugged 20:58 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) used a forge to create Tempest, on T:44190 (1 day, 4:54:57) 20:58 Aug 18 01:39:19 i was about to make some tweaks to drow to-hit in dark vs light, and I noticed that the change I made was only to the section that reported to-hit on the bottom line 20:58 you're telling me my ass got placebo'd? 20:58 yes 20:58 its fixed in next version 20:59 brb 20:59 well god damn I can't wait for drow to actually be as good as I thought they were 21:00 they'll only get TH bonuses with drow weapons though 21:00 wait... to-hit isn't as good as its supposed to be? 21:00 or bare-handed, or shadowblade 21:01 that'll help massively. 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:36041 (3:17:22) 21:02 "You kill Aphrodite! The magic missile hits you! You hear the howling of the Cwn Annwn..." forgot she stole my cloak of MR lol 21:02 I was wondering why I was doing such poor damage with a +3 dark elven long sword! 21:02 or missing repeatedly 21:03 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:06 eat 3 hill orc corpses in a row... "You must have been leading a healthy life-style." 21:06 subscribe for more healthy living tips! 21:06 Lol 21:10 FINALLY, a boh from a player monster 21:10 now I can go pick up the 10 mini stashes I've left on my descent :) 21:10 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 21:18 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 21:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:37544 (3:31:32) 21:27 everything's coming up in fucking ROSES brother 21:27 roses, I tell you! 21:28 god wouldn't it be funny if I died right now 21:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a bone knife entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:38285 (3:33:32) 21:31 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 21:31 why are you hoisting red flags by yourself :) 21:32 Call me twoflower because I'm standing on top of a hill in a lightning storm in wet copper armor screaming "all gods are bastards!" 21:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of high boots entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:39281 (3:37:41) 21:36 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:39 -!- Loggers_VIII6 has joined #evilhack 21:40 -!- Loggers_VIII6 has quit [Client Quit] 21:41 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:56 Loggers, please die around dlvl 10 so I can get your bones. 22:01 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 22:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a violet fungus corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:5376 (0:53:41) 22:06 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:06 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had an alchemy smock entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:5740 (0:58:03) 22:17 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven spear entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:6600 (1:08:50) 22:34 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 22:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible bouquet's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:7688 (1:26:05) 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant mummy, on T:8405 (1:30:25) 22:39 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:42 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 22:55 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 22:57 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:77734 (14:31:36) 23:00 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 23:01 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:41631 (3:59:11) 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 17715 points, T:10349, killed by a Woodland-elf 23:21 ugh, some asshole wished for frost brand... 23:22 wonder if that increments my counter 23:22 they got the owner with it, at least 23:22 bones? 23:23 or are you saying a monster made a wish for FB 23:23 no a lieutenant at the fun vanilla castle where the soldiers steal your wishes every single time :) 23:23 either way, that doesnt increment your counter 23:23 nice 23:23 well that's a wish spent well I guess 23:23 except I can't recharge the now 0:0 wand 23:23 you can 23:24 just need a charging scroll 23:24 no, I mean I haven't id'd charging 23:24 I know I will in the future, just not at this current time anyway 23:24 which will actually cause me to get more value out of the wand. but I want less value now, not more value later :p 23:25 hah, this random scroll on the ground was charging 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide helm of speed named Gustavo: Wishless Extraordinaire", on T:42607 (4:16:04) 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "demonbane", on T:42610 (4:16:18) 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:42611 (4:16:23) 23:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed erodeproof +2 magicbane", on T:88167 (1 day, 23:44:09) 23:35 gnite o/ 23:36 night o/ 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:43763 (4:25:59) 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:43937 (4:26:59) 23:43 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:58 celestial dragons cannot be reverse genocided?