00:11 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:17 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven long sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:34033 (6:28:06) 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 135482 points, T:34328, killed by a chameleon imitating an alhoon 00:20 jtfc 00:21 of all the things to imitate 00:29 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:20357 (4:17:23) 00:34 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a brown mold, on T:5738 (1:47:31) 00:35 well that was weird 00:35 now you can get into the Brown Mold only clubs! 00:35 i just repeatedly passed out from exertion until a grid bug bit me and i reverted 00:35 no clubs for me :( 00:36 i wonder if it's a sessile thing? 00:37 I've had great luck with my drow rogues, but I'm having such a hard time getting to midgame. 00:37 As soon as chameleons/gel cubes/energy vortexes show up I'm toast. 00:39 yeah, drow are so fragile. idk how Loggers does so well with them in the midgame 00:40 with drow rogues i try to forge >15 mithril daggers, or several steel ones if mithril isn't available. 00:40 then just avoid melee whenever possible 00:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 1181 points, T:1945, killed by the Goblin King 00:51 I've been going for shuriken 00:51 my damage output isn't the issue. It's surviving the midgame monsters. 00:53 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1630 (0:09:46) 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 2637 points, T:3629, killed by a Woodland-elf 01:44 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:25884 (5:30:42) 01:45 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:52 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 01:53 hmm, a magic trap gave my giant invisibility and see invisible, but just realizing giants cant wear mummy wrapping to enter shop... how do people deal with this? 02:01 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 02:10 Cursed wand of invis should remove invisibility for you now. 02:24 Hmm, so i guess giants should only re-gain permanent invisibility after being done with all shops? 02:35 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:36 If you like, sure. 03:26 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:41 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 04:05 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:68383 (17:44:46) 04:07 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 04:11 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:39 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:01 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 07:06 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:20 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:26 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 07:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 27577 points, T:16461, suffocated by a gelatinous cube 07:26 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 07:27 3 hits from my thrown dwarvish spears and 3 shots from my wand of fire.  Still couldn't kill the (&*^%^&* gelatanous cube!    WTF ?? 07:28 You know they resist fire, right? 07:29 Um, no 07:29 Well 07:29 they do. 07:29 That was my downfall then. 07:29 Sorry you found out that way. 07:29 Ok, at least someone else won't have to deal with it as I died on Sokoban. 07:29 This is why I keep sparkle on in case I forget monster resistances/MR. 07:29 Not the worst death, perhaps.  No Mojo and no aligned altars in Minetown. 07:30 sparkle? 07:30 What do you set it to?  It's set to 0.  Do I set it to 1 to turn it "on" ? 07:32 3-5. 07:32 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 97 points, T:200, killed by a goblin 07:32 Non-zero values are the amount of frames it cycles for. 07:33 Ok, thanks - I'll give that a try 07:33 2, 3 keeps it nice and short, enough that you notice it but not enough to get ultra laggy when a bunch of resists occur 07:33 (for ME anyway) 07:36 Sure.  I set it to 3 and will see how it goes. 07:37 So when it sparkles, that means .... that the monster is (something) resistant? 07:37 Yes 07:38 The monster either resisted your elemental damage ray (from a wand) or resisted a force bolt (from MR score, player-style MR, etc.) 07:38 Sounds like a feature I didn't know about! 07:38 It's been in the game since 3.4.3 if not several versions earlier lol 07:38 's a whole thing about turning it off on Plane of Fire due to the poison gas 07:39 and fire traps 07:39 (mostly the fire traps) 07:41 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 07:46 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:46 I didn't know we can turn that off. Plane of fire always feels laggy due to that. I used to blind fold myself just to not feel that lag :) 07:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1778 (0:17:28) 07:55 you can also /?gelatinous cube dbanethacker (they resist EVERYTHING) 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3163 (0:24:30) 08:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4060 points, T:3967, killed by the Goblin King 08:14 he had a / of lightning - not a fair fight. 08:14 * dbanethacker Rolls a 6 sided dice and gets 5 08:16 -!- dbanethacker14 has joined #evilhack 08:20 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 432 points, T:1433, killed by a water demon, while sleeping 08:29 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest8094 08:29 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 173 points, T:544, killed by a coyote 08:31 -!- Guest8094 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:03 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:31893 (16:05:43) 09:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 709 points, T:2404, killed by a mountain dwarf 09:53 Man! 41k turns, sokoban done, ludios half done, down to level 11...have seen 0 lizards 09:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:08 -!- dbanethacker14 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:14 Unlucky. 10:14 my middle name 10:15 guess i'm placeholding grinding for lizards, mr, holy water :-) 10:17 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 10:19 yay player monster popped next to me and yanked the amulet and it is nowhereville now 10:22 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:23 object detection does not show it on the level F ME 10:24 what the hell, did the amulet level port 10:25 Player monster hit a level tele after? 10:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) had a steel shield of reflection entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:42750 (11:23:41) 10:27 just the one player monster that i killed 10:28 would a peaceful ogre have picked it up? 10:28 i am gonna die to attrition 10:30 I imagine not 10:30 But hmm. 10:30 F C C C K K K K 10:30 ? 10:30 well, i guess i go down until i run out of health or up until i run out of health 10:32 anyone have any opinions on which is more likely? 10:34 not on level above, not on level below. k2! sob 10:35 wut 10:35 monsters should not be able to levelport with the amulet 10:35 my amulet hit the ground and disappeared from the level 10:35 no it didnt 10:36 it could be somewhere else on the same level 10:36 object detection says it did 10:36 amulet porting when it hits the ground, stays on that level 10:36 used object detection on the level plus the level above and below 10:36 is the amulet invisible to me and invisible to object detection? 10:36 no 10:36 save your game 10:36 lemme make a copy, i'll confirm 10:37 saved, object detection in inventory 10:37 i admit i've only used 2 object detection on the level so far and explored every square :-P 10:37 its possible a monster picked it up 10:38 and then fell down a trap door or levelported or something? the only things on the level at the time were a peaceful ogre and peaceful homunculus afaik 10:38 and i did object detection on the level above and below as well 10:39 give me a min 10:39 i gotta compile a second binary on 0.8.2 branch so i dont lose my current work 10:40 trying infidel again was definitely the wrong way for me to destress this weekend 10:47 krm26 - amulet is on that level 10:47 thx k2 10:47 that's all i'm gonna say, rest is up to you :) 10:48 i'm totally cornfused then, since i have been to every square with any symbol plotted on it 10:48 <@K2> its possible a monster picked it up 10:48 maybe i'm going blind 10:48 yeah the only monster i haven't dealt with is that damn peaceful ogre 10:48 my cat won't kill him 10:48 ogre isnt the only monster there 10:48 the only one who was alive 10:48 ogre isnt the only monster there 10:49 well shouldn't object detection show the flipping amulet even if it is carried by a monster? 10:49 it is the stupid $ for the leprechuan isn't it 10:49 fkgjfkgjfkj 10:49 not if they have more than just that object in iventory 10:50 if they have more than one doesn't it show the item stack highlight? 10:50 depends on your config i imagine (I dont use stack highlighting) 10:51 thx k2 was about to rip my own entrails out 10:51 :P 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:971 (0:08:22) 10:53 this next commit became a ton of work, all because i wanted shimmering dragon-scaled armor to have stun resistance 10:53 heh 10:53 still not done... almost tho 10:53 (and give shimmering dragons stun breath attack) 10:55 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed dbanethacker's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:1213 (0:11:21) 11:03 does stun resistance also resist confusion? 11:07 no 11:07 you dont want to wear a thing that grants that 11:07 that will kill using confusion for beneficial things, you'd wind up having to take off half your armor everytime you wanted to do various things while confused 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 6512 points, T:2477, killed by a killer bee 11:09 (I still think you should not be able to read scrolls while stunned) 11:10 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:15 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 11:16 owwww was just almost killed with grimtooth 11:19 oooh you have it now? 11:19 grimtooth is a great weapon for an infidel 11:19 i do have it 11:19 \o/ 11:19 so i can choose between expert secespita and expert grimtooth 11:21 but it *feels* like secespita is better, even against elves...must not just be getting procs off grimtooth 11:21 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:21 It's only 10% to instakill at any given time, yeah? 11:21 Versus hated monsters 11:22 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 11:22 Also disease in general just wins fight in time and bypasses a lot of encounters 11:22 if it procs, isn't it only like 20% of the time? 11:34 you only need to get lucky one 11:34 :B 11:36 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 11:47 i cant believe as a level 14 infidel i can cast magic missile like 3 times before i'm dry 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a kabuto entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:31602 (6:41:22) 11:58 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had an iron katana entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:33532 (6:49:18) 12:00 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a bone javelin entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:34795 (6:53:48) 12:03 oh man, 3 junk in a row.. 12:04 Amaterasu Omikami is just getting started! 12:06 do infidels use int or wis fo casting? wis i assume? 12:06 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 12:08 yes 12:09 ugh i can't even read level 1 spellbooks with 100% success 12:10 you must either be very low level or have very low int 12:10 started with an 8 int, still at an 8 int 12:11 no blessed enlightenment/gain ability? 12:11 level 14 so i need an 11 int to be able to read a level 1 spellbook without error 12:11 no access to holy water 12:11 if i did, i'd be able to crawl all the way up to an 11 int 12:11 can you use confused remove curse? 12:12 confused blessed remove curse, right? no 12:12 or am i misremembering? does confused uncursed remove curse work too? 12:12 thought it was only blessed, which is another roadblock 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:37260 (7:04:07) 12:13 thought uncursed just did equipped gear. sadly cannot equip water 12:14 you can wield it 12:14 yeah, 1 potion with a 30% chance per scroll, those odds aren't great 12:14 i've done it with 20 split potions in open inventory before and failed to get cursed :-) 12:15 god dammit 12:15 agents of set keep showing up with blessed invisibility and getting wishes from djinnis, THIRD TIME that has happened to me 12:15 I like how dnethack has guaranteed holy water 12:17 the only guaranteed water in evilhack seems to be unholy (and in the infidel quest) 12:17 well, player monster priests and infidels are pretty reliable if you luck into one 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a gold shield of reflection entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:38010 (7:10:04) 12:19 "if you luck into one" implies not guaranteed 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a steel spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:39123 (7:13:46) 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a helm of telepathy entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:41648 (7:25:16) 12:50 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to her by Venus, on T:34142 (16:55:14) 13:01 GREAT, my shambling horrors can steal my amulet of yendor as well 13:02 i feel like infidels don't want me to ascend 13:08 mine has: drain, confuse, paralyze and knockback attacks :) 13:14 yay for shambling horrors on level 11 13:16 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 13:20 i wish i could dual-wield potions so i could at least have twice the chance at making holy water 13:20 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:4179 (0:10:38) 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4648 (0:11:01) 13:50 I'm not sure if (confused) uncursed remove curse even affects your offhand weapon. You can never dual-wield with a cursed weapon, even if weldproof (unless evilhack changed that). 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3480 (0:28:15) 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:9739 (0:24:36) 14:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:10929 (0:31:14) 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:44339 (7:50:35) 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Lolth, on T:13772 (0:40:47) 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 7500 points, T:14112, killed by Ms. Sipaliwini; the shopkeeper 14:21 lmao stormbringer why 14:21 I haven't used that thing in forever, gotta get my muscle memory back 14:28 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:41 i wonder if i'll be at 100k turns still without magic resistance or holy water or anything below dl11 14:41 yay infernals 14:42 infidels 14:42 whatever i am 14:44 sigh, dunno what to do, just sitting and spinning...can't even try croesus since he's riding a dragon 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a scimitar entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:47188 (8:25:12) 14:47 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 14:54 gahhh wut wut wut 15:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Mon Gia Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible nabru's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:1599 (0:17:07) 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed Croesus, on T:52035 (14:50:53) 15:27 i think i've finihsed this commit? heh 15:28 gotta dbl-check some stuff 15:42 soo disappointing -- had 2 gold, 1 white, 1 sea, 1 green dragon in ludios and the only one to give me scales was green :-P 15:42 anything else woulda been 10x better 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) had a dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:53871 (15:21:00) 15:56 nothing but unstackable daggers every time 15:56 every one JUST different enough 16:03 My longbow of diana is shooting like 20 steps. Is this just evilhack or I didn't notice it in vanilla? 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:35039 (18:33:39) 16:06 the longbow of diana shoots like 3 squares farther than other bows; i think it's an evilhack thing 16:08 ^ this 16:08 plus it'll generate different types of arrows based on your race 16:09 as a centaur you'll get the same arrows as a human (regular) 16:13 unless you invoke it with your horse-parts! 16:14 OMIGOD GAME gimme some holy water or a blessed scroll of remove curse or a player priest or any source of magic resistance or even a stethoscope before another 10k turns PLS PLS PLS 16:16 heh 16:18 i am like 50x more slog-prone than everyone else, or am i just a huge flaming whiner 16:23 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:24 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±31] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/c3fd6605ff47...748894d6cdec 16:24 [EvilHack] k21971 748894d - Adjust some dragon-scaled secondary resistances/passive defenses. 16:24 meant that to be "am i" but i'm clearly becoming more and more lysdexic 16:24 finally 16:24 that commit could use a review 16:24 or two 16:24 or more :P 16:25 no mods to green? 16:25 just orange/shimmering? 16:25 and yellow 16:25 read the commit notes 16:26 right right but "no mods to green?" green is suckwadz too 16:26 i disagree 16:26 finding green dragon scales early on would be very helpful for most roles 16:26 roles/races 16:26 oh the poison resistance part is amazing 16:26 the poison damage part is meh 16:27 think it deserves an alternate secondary 16:27 already have a bunch of scales with attacks 16:27 like a cool secondary would be "see through fog/gas" 16:28 i wouldnt mind some feedback on the current changes 16:28 rather than 'why didnt you do this instead' 16:28 the stun stuff is clearly unambiguously fantastic 16:28 with displacement and stun resistance, shimmering dragons should be knight's nemesis 16:28 (and perhaps stun resist should be given to tempest also to make it more alluring) 16:29 tempest already has stun res 16:29 how much damage is passive acid? 16:29 duhhh :-) i guess great minds and all that 16:29 Noisytoot same as the other passives 16:30 krm26 unfortunately when setting up an artifact in artilist.h, you cant give it more than one defense when wielded. so tempest has to be singled out when doing stun res 16:30 i think the passive acid addition is an additional pure buff on something that didn't need it -- in fact, its passive beats out white/red since most things wont resist it, and the armor was already important for two very difficult resistances 16:31 that same buff makes yellow dragons more dangerous 16:32 worth the challenge for the prize (scales) 16:33 they are already the best pet dragon since they can eat snarks 16:33 if only you could put "mr on em! 16:34 but i think with those changes there will now be situations where i might choose any of those armors mid/late game except green 16:34 orange also seems like a pretty solid boost, and it makes me a little sad that shields of mobility are that much less desirable---shields are already in a tough place 16:34 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 16:34 will sea dragon secondary include underwater vision when the underwater branch is released? 16:35 well... yeah 16:35 ^ terrapin 16:35 i wish you could at least wish for shields of mobility/light in a material to not block spellcasting 16:35 but shield use is more desireable in evilhack now at least vs vanilla 16:36 krm26 in my opnion, spellcasters shouldnt be able to use a shield at all 16:36 but priests man! 16:36 but that may be a too drastic change in nethack world 16:36 true; you've made a lot of changes in that direction which I think is cool. "better than vanilla" is a pretty low bar though 16:36 terrapin hahah 16:37 krm26 in the future i may add more types of bracers other than just dark elven ones 16:37 with the shield skill mechanic really easy to discourage casters from using shields, just have unskilled slide the shield effect down to 0 16:37 so regular 'bracers of mobility'c ould be a thing 16:37 but yeah, as krm26 said it makes the changed armors all viable alternatives to gray/silver/white so that's neat. there are still some like red/blue/green which are not endgame material but it's probably okay to have some scales like that 16:37 omigod bracers of mobility or bracers of light or bracers or reflection sign me up 16:38 longbow of diana is forgers paradise. I'm getting arrows of frost and venom :) 16:38 i think that red is definitely endgame material if you need nothing but extra dps 16:38 k3ut0i :P 16:38 i could see switching sick res over from gold to green dragon-scaled armor 16:39 so what do we give gold dragon-scaled armor then 16:39 now that is intriguing. would gold get something else in addition to light? 16:39 not stealth 16:39 but when is that literally the only thing you need? acid res/stun res/frozen feet are all better options even if you have all the conventional stuff 16:39 bright lought + stealth doesnt mix 16:39 *light 16:39 hmm 16:40 gold could give you intermittent amulet clairvoyance thing 16:40 infravision 16:40 oooh yeah 16:40 gnollhack has bracers of reflection (but they are a seperate slot and not shields) 16:40 yeah 16:41 for all those extra armor slots in gnollhack, and they didnt add pants 16:41 smh 16:41 i have a great idea and i'll tell you once you mail me a cloak of magic resistance 16:41 heheh 16:42 while we're on the topic of dragon scales one thing i noticed with blue scales is that they prevent slowing in some, but not all, cases 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5518 (0:55:35) 16:42 open doors don't get blasted by ice? 16:42 terrapin really? huh 16:42 must have missed some cases 16:42 k3ut0i i think its just closed doors 16:43 I sent you "a cloak of magic resistance" 16:43 so tonight i think i'll make some tweaks to green/gold scales 16:43 if the game worked like that the magic marker would be astoundingly good 16:44 taking mini-me to a local music festival here in less than an hour, but wont be out late 16:45 specifically passive slow attacks slowing the player and slow monster zaps hitting either player or monster are the ones I've noticed aren't prevented 16:45 terrapin you mind doing a PR on that if it isnt too much trouble? 16:45 lichens are just more powerful than blue dragons 16:45 yeah, sure 16:45 thx 16:45 white dragon scales freeze water to snow, but will the player still slip on that ice? 16:45 have fun at the music festival! 16:46 no, white dragon scales are like snow boots in that regard 16:46 thanks! I hope the bands are good. i used to be a musician for a living, I'm probably more critical than I should be 16:47 why i cant do karaoke nights at clubs, just... ugh 16:48 oh, one thing---should blue scales prevent sewage slowing or not? 16:49 you were 55xx k2? 16:50 no 16:50 does water walking prevent sewage slowing? 16:50 ^ krm26 16:51 k3ut0i yes 16:51 terrapin um... 16:51 sure 16:51 if that would have qualified as "musician for a living" :-) 16:51 'kay 16:55 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:56 I'm in a never ending fight with bourbon :(, multishot is always hitting after he died. If this happens with ice queen i'm dead. 17:00 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:35661 (19:30:45) 17:02 What ice queen doesn't have poison resistance? Damn that went easier than I thought. 17:02 you have discovered one of her vulnerabilities 17:02 \o/ 17:03 she seems to work different than the dogs. Dogs became hostile after multishot hit them, but she only changed after a full turn. I would be in a lot of trouble if poison killed her and next arrow hit the enchantress. 17:04 currently water walking doesn't prevent sewage slowing. should i change that? 17:04 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:04 terrapin it doesnt? 17:04 i coulda swore that was a thing 17:06 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 17:07 still makes sense to get slowed when you have water walking cuz it sticks to your boots/feet/whatever 17:09 but wwalking you're on top of it, not in it 17:10 mud boots prevent slow down from sewage 17:11 I know you’re not in it but wouldn’t it still be sticky and nasty to walk on 17:12 like walking on mud or something 17:13 -!- Loggers_IX has joined #evilhack 17:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:13 -!- Loggers_IX is now known as Loggers_VIII 17:14 headed out, back later tonight o/ 17:14 later o/ 17:14 o/ 17:14 \o 17:15 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 393 points, T:971, killed by a hobgoblin 17:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:00 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 18:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2363 (0:12:43) 18:06 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:07 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:08 I was pickpocketing a dwarf and the message was "Your hands slip off of the mountain dwarf's slippery cloak!" 18:08 but he only had the usual dwarf cloak. Wassup with that? 18:09 it must have the oilskin property 18:09 oh wow, it did! 18:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:09 I've never found oilskin object material in the wild 18:10 yeah, same. neat! 18:11 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:11186 (3:18:43) 18:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:3891 (0:26:10) 18:17 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:11632 (3:24:51) 18:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:6272 (0:48:34) 18:44 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:13134 (3:51:29) 18:51 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:7592 (1:03:29) 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Ran Cen Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:36015 (20:23:14) 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:12419 (1:36:32) 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a small shield entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:50641 (8:36:44) 19:37 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 19:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 21055 points, T:14562, killed by an air elemental 19:39 probably the same airy as was lurking in sokoban before :( 19:51 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:53 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:01 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:17 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:51 weee 20:54 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:57 does reflection protect from death wands? 20:58 MR and reflection protect from death rays but you still lose a bit of max/current HP. 20:58 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/748894d6cdec...2b37268b09f8 20:58 [EvilHack] k21971 2b37268 - A couple more dragon-scaled secondary changes. 20:59 kk 21:01 is infravision what dwarves have? What do you call Drow's vision? Ultravision? 21:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 29 points, T:314, killed by a sewer rat 21:04 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a kabuto entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:52947 (9:17:32) 21:04 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 21:08 bouquet yes 21:08 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 21:08 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:09 how much damage does throwing a boulder incur 21:11 1d20 21:12 oh wow, much better than carrying a bunch of unenchanted daggers 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1482 (0:09:52) 21:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonbane named bonesbound", on T:1524 (0:10:54) 21:17 K2, I have a few questions about slowing: 1) what's the final verdict on how water walking should interact with sewage? 2) in two cases, sleep resistance prevents slowing, but not in others. should this be made consistent and, if so, which way? 3) passivemm doesn't account for dragonscaled armors. should it? 4) due to how sewage is handled, monsters become unslowed as soon as they move, regardless of the source of slowing. should this be changed? 21:17 5) should (baby )?blue dragons be immune to slowing? 21:18 1) wwalking should prevent slowing when walking on sewage 21:18 2) is that sleep res/slowing thing vanilla code? 21:18 3) yeah it should 21:19 4) yeah it should (again) 21:19 5) yes 21:22 what skill (if any) does boulder throwing use? 21:22 None 21:23 that I've ever been aware of 21:23 i think the sleep res cases were all added by you 21:23 one was part of an adopted 3.7 commit but it doesn't look like 3.7 checks sleep resistance now 21:24 ok. then that should prob go 21:24 cool 21:31 I should play more giant tbh 21:31 killing a vrock after converting an early altar without thinking makes me feel powerful 21:46 nite 21:52 Night 22:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6897 (0:50:46) 22:24 dang... 2 air elementals in sokoban zoo. 22:24 and a shocking sphere. 22:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 13365 points, T:9874, killed by a shocking sphere's explosion 22:25 and that's all she wrote! 22:27 I regret those dragonbane gloves aren't in a bones file somewhere :( 22:28 You are not catching a break from air elementals :| 22:30 Did you remember to darken the place as you went? 22:30 idk how much it would've helped with that 22:35 Yeah, I forgot that quite a bit when playing Rog-Dro. 22:36 I'm losing characters after reaching castle quite a bit. I happy that game isn't getting boring after castle, but still it happened 3 times :( 22:38 A consequence of the game no longer being boring post-Castle is that it also isn't """free""" post-Castle anymore 22:40 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:58825 (10:11:33) 22:40 I get complacent after reaching castle and good AC. I should lose that I guess... 22:53 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:60662 (10:24:14) 23:07 -!- xdminsy has joined #evilhack 23:20 'lo 23:38 I was trying a different tactic - head to sokoban asap in hopes my low level prevents spawning of E's and v's. 23:38 it didn't work out 23:41 yeah that does not work consistently 23:42 How the chameleons work in EvilHack? 23:42 If I wait on Elbereth, will he change shape later on? 23:45 I see it will. 23:46 Yeah, same as standard 23:46 Just more nasty forms to take + you have to kill it twice 23:48 Yes more nasty forms, so I think maybe it's good genocide choice if I have early genocide from throne. 23:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1649 (0:10:09) 23:48 In vanilla maybe only imitating purple L casting touch of death is the a main danger. 23:55 I mean you can also get a shapeshifter that just becomes something out of depth and rolls you 23:55 Minotaur, elven monarch, et. al.