00:04 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 00:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:7634 (0:45:50) 00:09 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 15033 points, T:7949, killed by a soldier ant 00:09 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible k3ut0i's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:10529 (1:54:26) 00:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:10777 (1:56:14) 00:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven spear entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:11929 (2:03:36) 00:25 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 00:30 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:41 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 00:49 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:13 -!- bgt32 has joined #evilhack 01:13 -!- bgt32 is now known as k3ut0i 01:23 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 01:27 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:39 -!- alivernine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3757 (0:41:42) 01:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3885 (0:42:21) 02:23 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4973 (1:17:26) 02:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:30 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:5575 (1:24:29) 02:53 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a poisoned silver runed dagger on an altar, on T:5546 (0:55:42) 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5563 (0:56:24) 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3195 points, T:5571, killed by a Green-elf 03:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:20 Oh I get the wand of wishing(0:2). 03:20 What should I wish for. 03:20 Armors or markers? 03:25 Is there something you need? Intrinsics, AC? 03:25 I'm not sure, maybe I need tshirt of decay. 03:25 I'm now -45 AC. 03:26 I think markers are needed I need to write some genocide maybe? 03:26 Yeah drain resistance is good. get dragonhide one. 03:27 Have you looted valley of the dead and vecna lvl 1? 03:27 https://imgur.com/a/O9YmeBz 03:27 No, i'm entering votd. 03:27 I'm not very sure what need to deal with the gehennom and some bosses in EvilHack. 03:28 I'm nearly knowing nothing about those. 03:28 dragonhide t-shirt of decay is always a good idea 03:28 Wait you don't have magic resistance? 03:28 Sry. 03:28 didn't see gray scaled 03:28 I have gray-scaled studded armor. 03:28 save your wishes for when you really need them :-) 03:29 but drain res is good to have 03:29 Lol I don't know when I need it. 03:29 In vanilla I just spend all those to armor myself. 03:30 Ah yes, if I have no this dragonhide t-shirt I may just wish one, but when I have one I stagger.. 03:31 btw it's possible to wish for a mithril magic lamp 03:31 if you want permalight 03:31 Oh that won't fail? 03:31 that is a valid wish 03:31 always 03:31 That's great, and I'm a centaur I can jump. 03:32 Do you often wish for markers? 03:32 yeah, but I like to defeat Vecna first 03:33 @e?Vecna 03:33 Vecna (L) | Lvl: 99 | Diff: 50 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 8d6 touch cold, 6d6 touch wither, 3d4 gaze Death, 4d6 cast spell, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous 03:33 only then can you genocide liches/alhoon 03:33 Emmm touch wither gaze Death. 03:33 How to deal with that? 03:33 blindfold/towel 03:33 Then can I just melee it? 03:34 well, it helps to have better weapons... 03:34 you still need frost brand? 03:35 I think I need one, I'm not sure if I should farm for it or just wish it. 03:35 have you made an artifact wish yet? 03:35 I'd try lure wraiths now, level up and farm a bit more. 03:35 No, I could wish that yes. 03:36 He is a pain to deal with. My last game he had like -30 AC. I chucked aroud 50 +7 daggers at him and he still lived. I fought him like 4 different times before I got the Hammer of Gods to kill him. 03:37 tip: in the valley of the dead there is a magic trap that blocks the path of wraiths. but you can disable the magic trap with a wand of cancellation. 03:37 (at the location where vanilla has an arrow trap) 03:37 Damn, I did not know that. 03:38 I always trip it multiple times untill it explodes. 03:38 well, that works too :-) 03:38 Got it. 03:38 Never lure wraiths in vanilla tho. 03:38 I'd try this time. 03:39 it's pretty time consuming, you have to lure them past the castle too 03:39 castle counts as graveyard 03:40 Yes a bit boring. 03:40 But ftw lol. 03:40 you're not flying? 03:40 Ah yes, I tried polypiling some amulets. 03:41 I like to always wear amulet of flying in 3.7. 03:41 Yeah, there is a lot of lava to deal with. 03:41 you can still juggle levitation. 03:41 flying highly recommended 03:42 I like flying, I'd try to get one lol. 03:42 In 3.7 if I can't polypile one, I would just wish one. 03:42 But this time unfamiliar i'd use wishes more carefully I think. 03:43 if you can kill the oracle, their Magic 8-Ball artifact gives slotless warning 03:43 but I suppose you are lawful 03:44 so you would need a very strong pet 03:44 I'm centaurian valkyrie, I have warning myself. 03:44 aaah of course 03:44 I don't carry pets in 3.7, but if it helps I could do that. 03:44 I have a lot magic whistles and 20 scrolls of taming now. 03:44 pets are still optional :-) 03:45 Holy I realize that the level before castle is still a graveyard.. 03:45 but an intelligent pet can be fun, because with the #loot command it's easy to equip them 03:45 oof... 03:46 I see, maybe I could carry some. 03:46 What is recommended? woolly or elder minotaur? 03:46 you can't tame elder minotaur 03:47 and woolly is great for astral, but they are not intelligent 03:47 I've sometimes tamed vampire mages, others have tamed titans 03:48 Got it. 03:48 that can take multiple tries because of their MR 03:48 And why woolly is great for astral? Can they digest? 03:48 Or just because their high damage. 03:48 high damage 03:48 I see. 03:49 I like to reverse geno lots and lots of them 03:49 they are high level, so will attack anything but the riders 03:50 Oh got it, I remember pets can only attack whose level is not higher than 2. 03:51 yeah 03:53 but stand on a scroll of scare monster before you revgeno them, you don't want them to attack you 03:53 then when you're done, you can tame them all with confused scroll of taming 03:54 Oh I see, I hardly use scroll of scare monster. 03:54 And their's good point that I can put one in bag and then drop bag to test it's buc state. 03:55 yeah, much easier to keep them that way 03:55 in vanilla I often drop them on an altar by accident 03:56 Lol in vanilla I just drop them all and let them vanish... 03:57 Hardly use that. 03:59 Oh and the Gjallar is much more useful. 03:59 I could scare a lot. 04:00 ah, I think Gjallar can wake up Vecna to let him teleport to you 04:00 that way you can stay on the stairs 04:01 oh, scroll of scare monster is also very useful when you are attacked by alhoons, arch-liches etc 04:01 Oh don't need cursed potion of inv? Okay. 04:01 @e?alhoon 04:01 alhoon (h) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -6 | Atk: 1d10 weapon physical, 5d6 touch cold, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -15 | genocidable, flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, poisonous, covetous, infravis 04:02 First know alhoon. 04:02  cursed potion of inv doesn't work on Vecna 04:02 Would they cause amnesia? 04:02 yes 04:02 I see. 04:03 sometimes I wish for an oilskin cloth hat of some kind 04:03 then they can't suck you 04:05 Oh, then can I just genocide them? 04:07 after you've killed Vecna, yes 04:08 Okay I may do that. 04:08 but a centaur prefers a speed helm (those can't be oilskin) 04:08 still, if you fear the amnesia you could use one temporarily 04:09 I think I need to take care if there's one I can pick. 04:11 The levitations is really a poor man's flying. 04:11 I just wear it all time, and everytime I need to go down or pickup items, I remove it and put on it. 04:16 example wish for oilskin helm: blessed fixed +3 oilskin cloth elven helm 04:16 the cloth is important 04:17 Copied. 04:18 I'm not sure, the wraith hardly drop corpses even when I'm non graveyard level. 04:18 What's the chance.. 04:19 on non-graveyard, 50% 04:19 Well, that's painful experience. 04:19 I may never do this again :( 04:19 yeah, it's totally boring 04:20 What's the weredemon. 04:20 I may be convert to a demon if infected? 04:20 exactly 04:20 and then you break out of your armor 04:21 have wolfsbane ready, or wear protection from shape changers 04:21 it helps that you have MC3 04:21 Can I quaff holy waters to cure it? 04:21 yes that works as well 04:22 Oh then it's less dangerous. 04:22 if you don't miss the message :-) 04:23 Actually, I need to add one in my config lol. 04:23 @e?beholder 04:23 beholder (e) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 3 | Res: cold shock poison petrification | Confer: poison | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -8 | Atk: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d25 gaze sleep, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 4d4 gaze cancellation, 8d8 bite physical | Align: -10 | flies, breathless, mindless, nopoly, infravis 04:23 wth, beholder is a plain monster that summons a lot? 04:24 make sure to be blind before you fight one! 04:24 they don't summon, but they have extremely nasty gaze attacks 04:24 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5350 (0:52:02) 04:24 Ah yes, I mean they are spawned a lot. 04:24 the second level of the vecna branch has 2 beholders 04:25 I saw a 5 in map, farlook and find it is a beholder. 04:25 Well, can I just blind and melee it? 04:25 yeah 04:26 I thought beholder is something that have gaze death :) 04:27 believe me, they can kill you with petrification/cancellation/disintegrate 04:27 Yes it's still seems very dangerous. 04:28 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 mithril darts on an altar, on T:5850 (0:55:59) 04:31 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:31 -!- mobileuser63 has joined #evilhack 04:32 -!- mobileuser63 is now known as mobileuser 04:34 oh, congrats krm26! 04:38 krm26 ascended again? 04:39 @e?Cerberus 04:39 Cerberus (d) | Lvl: 27 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 20 | Res: fire sleep poison petrification drain | Confer: fire | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -7 | Atk: 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 bite physical, 3d6 breath fire | Align: -7 | carnivore, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, infravis 04:39 !lastgame krm26 04:39 k3ut0i: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1692663938.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1623895588.evil.html 04:40 this one: 04:40 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1692366662.evil.html 04:41 Oh congrats lol. 04:41 I seem to hav made an appearance too. LoL. 04:41 congrats krm26 04:42 I see Charon and Cerberus and a drawbridge. 04:42 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a stiletto entrusted to him by Kos, on T:7292 (1:09:39) 04:42 How to do, can I just strike the drawbridge? 04:42 I think it may anger Charon? 04:42 no, you need to open it 04:43 from a safe distance :-) 04:43 Cerberus can be pretty dangerous 04:43 do you know about the secret room in the bottom left? 04:44 I don't know, but I see some monsters at there. 04:44 Wow ceberus conveys teleport control. 04:44 there is an iron safe with a wand of opening in that room 04:44 So I should eat it. 04:44 yeah 04:46 sometimes I freeze the water and the drown Cerberus. but that makes it hard to eat the corpse of course 04:46 I think I'm just as strong to kill it in melee. 04:47 still, be careful... 04:47 you may need full healing 04:47 I killed it, seems my hp only get lowered maybe 30. 04:48 hmmm where is Hecubus 04:48 0.0 What is Hecubus. 04:49 the bot of this channel 04:49 no announcement of Cerberus kill 04:50 Ah yes I'm playing locally. 04:50 ah ok 04:51 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:7980 (1:18:59) 04:53 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:8109 (1:21:03) 04:54 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to him by Kos, on T:8126 (1:21:21) 04:54 Lol. 04:56 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:57 have you found flying in the valley of the dead? 04:57 No, and I tried polypiling, got 2 amulet of life saving.. 04:58 shame to wish for it, but it's pretty good to have... 04:58 I'd just polypiling life saving for flying in 3.7, and may wish it if still can't get one. 04:59 Well but I'd be more careful to try ascend a game of Evilhack lol. 04:59 heh 05:00 oh portal to Vecna is in the first level of gehennom 05:00 easy to find with confused gold detection 05:01 Okay, I'd go find it. 05:01 the first level of the branch is a large graveyard 05:01 with lots of chests 05:01 Lots of resources. 05:01 so a chance for more amulets 05:01 yeah 05:01 I found two black dragon, it's annoying. 05:01 Well but I carry two wand of cancel. 05:02 that won't help much 05:02 you can't cancel the passive attack 05:02 Holy I don't know that. 05:02 I just cancel one and melee it.. 05:03 Then it's more annoying. 05:03 you can punch them with dragonbane 05:03 dragonbane will not disintegrate 05:04 but it takes a long time to kill them 05:04 wield dragonbane and hit it? 05:04 no... 05:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:13442 (3:19:22) 05:04 wear dragonbane, unwield weapon 05:04 Oh I see.. 05:05 I just walk and step into the portal. 05:05 nice! 05:06 loooots of undead 05:06 Can I lure the wraith in vecna to gehennom? 05:06 yes 05:06 but there will not be many wraiths 05:06 @e?Baphomet 05:06 Baphomet (&) | Lvl: 54 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: unique | AC: -4 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw physical, 2d6 cast clerical, 8d6 butt knockback | Align: -15 | flies, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 05:07 Be ready to escape too. Vampire mages can summon nasty and last time I encounterd a demon lord. 05:07 Okay. 05:07 did Baphomet appear? 05:08 So I should wish one decay shirt and then fight Kas? 05:08 Ah yes, I killed Baphomet. 05:08 nice job 05:08 It is not guranteed boss? 05:08 it varies every game 05:08 the demon lords that is 05:09 Kas is always there 05:09 yeah decay shirt is good 05:10 Kas hits extremely hard with his sword of kas 05:10 I'm not sure if I can beat it. 05:10 I think the Baphomet hits me hard. 05:11 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 05:12 at least you have angelslayer, kas is vulnerable to fire 05:12 oh and fire brand of course 05:13 I'm now level 25, I think maybe I could try to go back and sacrifice for an frost brand. 05:13 good plan! 05:13 Oh there's a chickatrice corpse, can I stone Kas? 05:14 hmmm 05:14 personally I don't use footrice corpses. it's easy to miss and the stoning is delayed 05:14 but others do still use them 05:15 I use them a lot in vanilla, not sure if it works well in EvilHack. 05:15 it's works less well in evilhack... 05:15 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:16 Emmm, okay then, I just make my best weapon. 05:18 Would Kas follow to next level? 05:19 @e?Kas 05:19 Kas (V) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 16 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: -5 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical, 1d12 bite level drain | Align: -10 | flies, breathless, regen, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, silverhate, infravis 05:21 I don't know really... 05:21 do vampires in general follow you? 05:22 can't remember 05:22 Seems vampires all can follow. 05:22 ah, so Kas should too 05:22 Indeed. 05:23 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 05:23 did he trap you or are you working out a strategy? 05:24 No, I haven't go to the second floor. 05:24 I'm preparing. 05:25 Oh, the sword of kas provide stoning resistance when wielded, so seems I cannot stone him. 05:26 There're some peaceful player monster, should I kill'em? 05:27 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a spear entrusted to him by Kos, on T:12289 (1:47:19) 05:28 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:29 your choice :-) 05:38 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed master key of thievery", on T:12829 (1:58:19) 05:39 Emmm why rogue wish mkot? 05:39 Has The rogue quest artifact changed? 05:40 No. 05:42 yeah, weird wish 05:45 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:13095 (2:04:28) 05:50 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 24664 points, T:13826, killed by a barbed devil 06:11 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:14 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible nabru's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:14866 (3:45:40) 06:37 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:39 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16985 (4:10:48) 06:48 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 06:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:17589 (4:20:12) 06:56 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:00 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 07:04 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:27 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:19831 (4:58:59) 07:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 178 points, T:350, killed by a gas cloud 08:03 -!- mobileuser71 has joined #evilhack 08:05 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:22759 (5:36:50) 08:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:07 -!- mobileuser71 is now known as mobileuser 08:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 415 points, T:1440, killed by a wooden lucern hammer 08:11 I got the Frost Brand and forged SoA, that's quite great. 08:11 So I can still wish an artifact, maybe PYEC is good choice? 08:12 I thought the bag of hesperides can help me, but I'm still always near burdened. 08:14 well, pyec is very light, so there is that 08:16 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 08:17 Can poisoned projectiles dip into drow poison to gain more poison? 08:20 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:20 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:21 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:22 !who 08:22 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] k3ut0i [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 08:25 hi 08:25 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 08:25 * K2 pets Hecubus 08:26 Hi. 08:26 Hello xdminsy, Welcome to #evilhack 08:27 how's it going xdminsy? 08:27 hello k2 08:27 heya 08:28 xdminsy is absolutely breezing through evilhack on his second try because he is a monster 08:28 I got SoA and amulet of flying. 08:28 oh nice! 08:29 https://imgur.com/a/8ilvbKR 08:30 Lol i'd keep patience. 08:30 :) 08:31 lol imgur gave me a warning about erotic or adult imagery 08:31 you must be carrying your entire stash in your bag 08:31 Maybe nethack is not for kids :( 08:32 Lol yes, I am a pack rat, always near burden... 08:33 imgur is ass 08:33 ibb.co >>> 08:33 I am always on the e 08:33 *edge of being burdened from carrying too many potions 08:33 Ah okay. 08:33 this is one reason i want to implement magic chests 08:34 Me too, I carry all the potions... 08:34 What kind of magic chests? 08:34 I remember ender chest in minecraft. 08:35 in a couple variants there's an object called a magic chect. in most of the variants that have them, they are afixed to the ground and cant be moved, but they exist in key locations thoughout the dungeon 08:35 whatever you store in it can be accessed from any of the magic chests 08:36 *chest 08:36 so yeah basically ended chests 08:36 *ender 08:36 in dnethack you can pick it up and carry it, and once you open it, it bolts itself to the ground (I think) 08:37 in dynahack/fiqhack its more like a furniture object, like a throne or sink 08:37 i'd prefer the latter 08:37 where would you put them 08:37 starting level, castle, sokoban 08:38 maybe a couple other places 08:38 temple in mine town 08:38 i need to see how fiqhack/dynahack does it 08:38 its been awhile :) 08:39 today I start in on wiz tower level 2 (middle level) 08:39 what’s the first one 08:40 heh 08:40 one sec 08:42 Seems that could be very convenient. 08:42 just don’t make 2 like the telemaze from xnh 08:42 that permanently affected my brain 08:42 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:43 i'm putting this is a pastebin so there's some syntax highlighting, make it easier to read 08:43 https://pastebin.com/N6uuLktu 08:43 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 08:44 well maybe 08:44 ooh nice puzzles K2, Loggers will like that 08:44 ah he's back 08:44 ooh 08:44 ground floor is a lot bigger 08:44 and heavily guarded 08:45 as a proper wizard tower should be 08:45 noticing the million ; 08:46 No problem for tortle :) 08:46 chest locations i would suggest including some per-game randomization: goblin portal OR mine stairs; sokoban stairs OR quest portal, kathryn portal, one of three non-orcus demon lairs 08:46 the barracks ant fix snuck in here too 08:47 middle floor wont be as large as bottom floor 08:47 top floor will be smaller than middle floor 08:48 https://termbin.com/1f2tr if you dont want the pastebin experience 08:48 one magic chest in the temple of the VotD please 08:48 mobileuser yeah it'd either be temple in votd or castle 08:48 (but not both) 08:50 votd votd 08:50 as Infidel I agree, but... 08:50 was thinking castle because once you get through purgatory, that's where you pop out at 08:51 that 08:51 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:51 or... make them pop out at the VotD! 08:52 hrm 08:52 the whole idea of purgatory was not having to go back into hell again 08:53 technically the votd is just outside gehennom, but hmm 08:53 only 1 cursed GL away from the castle 08:55 will think on it. besides, the magic chest thing, this was going to be one of those things where i ask for some of you super coding types to tackle it. i have looked at how it's implemented in dyna/fiq and the code is too different. i dont know how to implement it 08:56 if i did, i would have added it a long time ago 08:57 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 09:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 09:02 -!- mobileuser33 has joined #evilhack 09:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:10 -!- mobileuser33 is now known as mobileuser 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by an orcish lieutenant), on T:28274 (6:57:34) 09:35 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +3 helm of speed", on T:29012 (7:06:53) 09:36 :( forgot dragonhide 09:36 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 09:36 oopsie 09:40 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:51 -!- terrapin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:33624 (8:16:59) 11:02 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33625 (8:17:08) 11:06 lol, I missed the telemaze 11:24 heh 11:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 23 points, T:142, killed by hitting herself in the face 11:25 bhaak have you experienced the new wiztower in xnethack yet? 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] samiam (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1208 points, T:1956, killed by the Goblin King 11:29 K2: I just started it up and had a look. I'm not sure how to feel about the squeaky board puzzle 11:29 I think squeaky boards with musical notes are stupid. but here, they have a use 11:30 its the telelevel that was not received very well 11:30 there's very easy way around it, but if you're not aware/not prepared, its super frustrating 11:32 telelevel? 11:32 second level of the wizard's tower in xnethack 11:33 I can see how it not well received. the first thing that is annoying is that you don't see which traps you already tried 11:33 plus its a different patern every game 11:33 random is fine :) 11:33 *pattern 11:33 of course, but not in this case 11:33 :) 11:34 color coding the traps for where they take you would help a lot 11:34 K2, where'd you get your shambling horror implementation from 11:34 sporkhack, its been significantly modified since 11:35 krm26 see https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack/issues/171 11:35 I ask because there's only one real page for a shambling horror on the wiki 11:35 the rest are stubs or a disambig that points to said article/stubs 11:36 Trying to figure out a way to group them all properly - wondering if they at least use the same placeholder 11:36 i'm not doing anything like what was done in xnh for wiztower. doing my own thing 11:37 and what aosdict pulled off in xnh, i think you need lua for that anyways 11:37 i dont see how you could make that in a regular .des file 11:38 oh while i am thinking of it - bhaak, when you moved wiz tower to its own branch, can players use cursed potion of gain level to skip levels and go straight to the top? 11:38 or levelport to it (EotA) ? 11:39 both points should be suppressed 11:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 385 points, T:1043, killed by a hobgoblin 11:40 shouldn't level teleport put you on the lowest level? as it does with Sokoban? 11:40 i would think so 11:40 that would be fine for that scenario 11:40 yeah. the other thing is a bug 11:41 not a difficult thing to fix 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 41 points, T:221, killed by an electric shock 11:41 man without the pickaxe lottery i just cant run an arch again 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:34013 (9:00:24) 11:48 my inclination is to just group them all together and then have variant-by-variant sections describing what's randomized for each one 11:48 I have to triple check for the placeholders though, and then there's implementation details I wanna record too 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:34136 (9:05:22) 11:51 yeah, I think I can get away with it 11:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 406 points, T:837, killed by a dart 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 598 points, T:766, killed by a gnomish wizard 12:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:11 @e?magical eye 12:11 magical eye (e) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 6 | Res: fire cold shock | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d6 gaze sleep, 0d0 gaze stun, 4d6 gaze fire, 2d4 gaze cold, 0d0 gaze drain luck | Align: -10 | flies, breathless, nopoly, infravis 12:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:61394 (8:04:02) 12:13 omg hermes my beloved 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 551 points, T:1289, killed by a hobgoblin 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:62079 (8:07:38) 12:17 @e?alhoon 12:17 alhoon (h) | Lvl: 26 | Diff: 30 | Spd: 9 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison drain | Confer: fire cold | MR: 90 | Gen: gehennom | AC: -6 | Atk: 1d10 weapon physical, 5d6 touch cold, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 0d0 cast spell | Align: -15 | genocidable, flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, poisonous, covetous, infravis 12:18 xdminsy are you in vecna's domain 12:19 Oooops, the alhoon drain my int, and I can't restore ability to restore my int :( 12:19 Ah yes, I killed kas now. 12:21 I think I indeed need to wish one oilskin helm.. 12:22 usually you can get by with grease if you have it 12:22 Can I jut death ray it? 12:22 Nope 12:22 Alhoon are undead so 12:22 Okay, I get can of grease. 12:23 You can restore ability to restore int, just... 12:23 hope it's not the spell you're relying on here 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:62937 (8:14:35) 12:23 mmm i love weapon stores which contain nothing but slings 12:24 Why the alhoons are faster than me.. 12:25 Luckily he get cancelled when attacking me. 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:63820 (8:18:03) 12:28 Cast haste self, ability to warp 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:64395 (8:21:18) 12:33 What, a marker in Vecna's Domain, is it magical? 12:34 yeah vecna has a chance to have one 12:35 How many levels have the vecna's domain. 12:35 I got the marker, but don't see where's the downstairs, and no vecna.. 12:36 ? weird 12:36 what level are you on 12:36 Vecna's domain level 3. 12:36 that's the last level 12:37 What, where's the Vecna.. 12:37 put on a blindfold and type '/M' to see a list of monsters on the level 12:37 if he's not there, maybe you disintegrated him or something? 12:37 he's prolly on the stairs healing? or you bumped into him and disintegrated him and didn't noticed 12:38 Maybe I just accidentally disintergrad him, let me find the drop.. 12:39 you can quaff obj detection to see 12:39 If you disintegrate vecna, will there be hand/eye? passive disnt? 12:39 yes 12:39 at least, with SoA 12:39 gives you a special end message 12:39 brb 12:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1615 points, T:1813, killed by a rabid dog 12:41 Weired. 12:41 I quaffed the object detection, I can't find the Eye or Hand.. 12:41 if you type #conduct, it should say if you killed Vecna, i think 12:41 Oh I saw him, in the level 2.. 12:43 Lucky, the Eye of Vecna. 12:44 -!- Loggers has joined #evilhack 12:44 probably quaffed cursed gain level 12:46 Maybe I alarmed him, and go down level not noticing him. 12:48 The Eye of Vecna is cursed, does it matter? 12:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a short sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:37072 (10:02:35) 12:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 216 points, T:549, killed by a mountain dwarf 12:49 Those always drop cursed iirc 12:50 Also be VERY careful with them - you can replace your hand/eye with those, and it's permanent once you do 12:50 If you eat it when it’s cursed it deals more damage 12:50 replace your eye? what? 12:50 Ja you can carry the eye for free 12:51 Not like dnd 0/10 >:( 12:51 Oh, so it's just the Hand 12:51 I don't know why I remembered the Eye doing the same, hmm 12:52 i started work on the 2nd dfloor 12:52 \o/ 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 37 points, T:272, killed by an arrow 12:54 What's the turn off the animation? 12:55 My timed_delay is false and sparkle is 0. 12:55 But it still plays the animation. 12:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 7 points, T:7, killed by a falling rock 12:59 -!- Loggers has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:01 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:02 i have OPTIONS=!sparkle and I don't get any animation, but i'm no expert with options files 13:04 I have too, but there's still wand and projectiles animation. 13:04 idk why. 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a heavy mace entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:66506 (8:33:11) 13:06 ah. yeah, i don't know how to disable those; sparkle only affects the animation you get when you/monsters resist something 13:06 sparkle is just for the resist animation 13:07 Oh I see, I understand wrongly. 13:07 And then how to disable the wand and projectiles animations? 13:07 It's a bit annoying. 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a steel dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:66929 (8:36:15) 13:08 I don't know 13:09 hermes I thought we were past the point in our relationship where a steel dagger is seen as an adequate gift 13:09 OPTIONS=sparkle:5 13:09 ^ that's what i use 13:09 much shorter than the vanilla devault of 20? 21? 13:09 *default 13:10 de monet is in devault! 13:10 !sparkle turns it off 13:10 heh 13:10 you can go as low as 1 if i recall 13:11 I see, I can't find options that disable the projectiles and wands animations. 13:12 I remember in 3.7 maybe I turned off timed_delay works. 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:67824 (8:40:04) 13:13 damnnn you hermeeeesss 13:14 why? sota is a great tortle healer weapon 13:14 can't get secespita though 13:14 sure you can 13:14 plus aescalapius is better 13:14 no it isnt 13:15 damage is funny 13:15 rodney can steal the healer quest item 13:15 ok 13:15 he can't steal my archon's soa 13:16 i can't wait for someone to confuse your archon :-) 13:16 he has a unihorb 13:16 *unihorn 13:16 lol 13:16 UNIHORB 13:17 horb 13:18 with proper personal grooming you can correct a unihorn 13:21 a tourist starting with $8? come on man 13:22 its 1840's 8 bucks 13:22 finally, the realistic tourist experience 13:22 has to be at least late 1900s because credit card 13:23 krm26 as an experiences tourist, you should be able to explore the galaxy on just 5 Altarian dollars per day 13:23 *Altairian 13:23 oops 13:23 how can i do that without a towel 13:23 * K2 gasps 13:23 you... you dont have a towel!? 13:24 yeah but it takes krm26 like three months to explore the dungeon :P 13:24 i am surprised that there has never been a luggage starting pet for the tourist 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a two-handed sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:39122 (10:38:35) 13:24 terrapin lol 13:24 3 months? i'm done with speed running terrapin 13:24 gnollhack has that i think 13:25 with current pet looting luggage could just be a normal pet with a big carrying capacity 13:25 i just wanna see the tool glyph pet honestly 13:26 and the female luggage could lay eggs that hatch into sacks and bags 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Mew, her faithful kitten, on T:233 (0:04:50) 13:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:70147 (8:55:22) 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:39844 (10:57:44) 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1788 (0:13:46) 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1129 points, T:1837, quit 13:44 why quit? 13:44 eh 13:44 running through lots of boring tourist starts 13:45 eventually something will pique my interest 13:45 play tortle tourist 13:45 then you get skilled in trident, that's fun 13:57 Monster riding is sometimes hilarious to imagine. demilich riding a rothe. 13:58 gremlin riding a dragon :) 13:59 It would be funny, if we ignored the stead, casually killed the gremlin and there stands a black dragon. 13:59 Seems some monsters will just walk and ride nearby ridable monster. 14:00 Seems Demogorgon may appear more likely in gehennom. 14:00 yea 14:01 all the last demon bosses are nasty 14:01 demo, grazzt, tiamat and asmodeus 14:01 tiamat and asmodeus are less dangerous but will still mess you up 14:01 Asmodeus get buffed? 14:01 In vanilla I probably fought him just 2 times over the years. I did that within my last 3 ascensions. 14:01 @e?asmodeus 14:01 Asmodeus (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -7 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 3d6 claw slow, 6d6 cast cold, 6d6 cast clerical | Align: 20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 14:02 he can make you vulnerable to cold so his cold is nasty, and his other attacks are scary 14:02 the slowing claw has never worked on me though, for some reason 14:02 I'm a bit scared. 14:03 how many demon bosses did you fight so far? 14:03 orange dragon scales should provide lethargy resistance. That might make them more attractive. 14:03 None I think. 14:03 i've never noted being slowed by asmo either 14:03 Didn't you kill baphomet? 14:03 maybe it's not working 14:03 Oh yes, I killed baphomet. 14:04 It appears in Vecna's realm. 14:04 baphomet is just an elder minotaur with a spellcasting attack basically 14:04 must've gotten gated 14:05 I'm now -51 AC, do I need more dragonhide armors? 14:05 no that's fine 14:09 Okay. 14:09 I found one vorpal jabberwock, that's scary. 14:09 xdminsy: beware the demon lords/princes. They're not a push-over like in vanilla. 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:71194 (9:10:29) 14:10 Okay, I think I may need take more care. 14:10 they'll strip away your resistances and hit you with a very damaging elemental attack. 14:10 @e?Geryon 14:10 Geryon (&) | Lvl: 72 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: unique | AC: -3 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw physical, 2d8 sting drain str, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: 15 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 14:11 k3ut0i: blue dragon scales already provide lethargy resistance 14:11 Orcus in particular will drain you to zero with his weapon. 14:12 He can strip away my drain resistance? 14:13 Emmm, need I only fight him in ranged? 14:13 no your drain resistance will be ok 14:13 his attack takes away max hp. 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:40510 (11:27:40) 14:13 his weapon drains max health unless you're resistant to death magic (e.g. wearing the gauntlets of purity or polymorphed into a resistant form like a demon) 14:13 he got me down to about 20HP once 14:13 it's only elemental resistances that can be taken 14:14 if you aren't death-resistant, then yeah, ranged is the way to go 14:14 terrapin: didn't know that. wiki just says 'confers speed' 14:16 I see, thx. 14:16 @e?Orcus 14:16 Orcus (&) | Lvl: 66 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 85 | Gen: unique | AC: -6 | Atk: 4d4 weapon physical, 4d4 weapon physical, 3d4 claw wither, 6d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting drain str | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 14:17 @e?Lolth 14:17 Lolth (&) | Lvl: 67 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire sleep poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 70 | Gen: unique | AC: -10 | Atk: 3d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 bite paralyze, 0d0 touch webs, 4d6 cast clerical, 4d6 cast spell | Align: -15 | seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:71655 (9:18:36) 14:21 well, as it turns out, it only sorta defends against lethargy 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 1080 points, T:1449, killed by a rothe, while praying 14:21 it works vs. monsters with slow attacks but doesn't prevent passive slowing from orange dragons 14:22 wand of slow monster ? 14:23 doesn't prevent it 14:23 i suspect these are bugs that no one's noticed because no one ever wears blue dragon scales 14:25 yeah blue dragon scales are complete garbage in evil lol 14:25 at least let them confer very fast speed 14:26 they do 14:26 but yeah, with helms of speed there's basically no reason to wear them 14:29 btw, I tested thievery against orcus. It's possible to steal the Wand of Orcus and not instantly die. At least in wizmode. 14:29 Wowo, I can no longer breath when engulfed by a sea dragon.. 14:30 Eyup, gotta get out of there before you drown 14:32 so was I only able to acquire it because I was in wizmode, or is that a legit way to actually get it? 14:32 bouquet: why would you instantly die? 14:33 yeah bouquet, i've done it in a game. you get blasted and it evades your grasp but it is possible to take it away from him. 14:33 ^ 14:33 It's not literal instant death 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1082 (0:10:59) 14:33 It's cursed so I think it's disarm-proof, unless Orcus is immune to welding 14:34 I believe it can't be picked up off the ground, right? 14:34 yeah, only thievery works to disarm him 14:34 thievery takes cursed objects too. 14:34 so the only way to acquire it is via thievery (or bullwhip)? 14:35 it's weird that infidels are weldproof but not other demons 14:35 the wand of orcus acts like a cross-aligned quest artifact---you can never get it in your open inventory 14:36 Is there any way to get it in your inventory at all so you can ascend with it? 14:36 if you have a demon pet they might pick it up and put it in a bag? not sure 14:36 that's exactly why I'm playing a drow rogue, Noisytoot! 14:37 best chance of thievery to snatch it directly to inventory. 14:37 Sadly, I wanna ranged fight Orcus but he just warp to me and drain my life.. 14:38 boulder fort 14:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] MargeBouvier (Wiz Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2499 (0:09:50) 14:39 Ahhhh, I see. 14:39 paralysis might do the job too. 14:39 Seems I have both, but forget to use :| 14:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] MargeBouvier (Wiz Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2665 (0:11:20) 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Hum Fem Una), 2444 points, T:1839, killed by a baby owlbear 14:43 Paralysis never fucking works out for me lately 14:43 long as I'd like anyway 14:46 paralysis can be really annoying if you get shafted by the RNG 14:47 hate those 1-2 turn rolls 14:50 mojo and cleaver are neutral, but tempest is non-aligned. 14:51 yeah, the alignment of a forged artifact doesn't match the alignment of its components sometimes 14:53 yeah, it in all others it picks alignment of one of the artifacts. This seems to be only exception. 14:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] MargeBouvier (Wiz Trt Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4997 (0:25:12) 14:55 true 14:55 magic does weird things sometimes 14:55 by combing two neutral objects, they became so neutral they lost any sense of alignment at all :p 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:72899 (9:37:13) 14:56 even switching paralysis from 1d25 to 2d12 would be a significant difference i think 14:56 you could count on getting 2 turns vs 1 14:57 people get more than 1 or 2 turns per paralysis potion? inconthievable! 14:58 Noisytoot Infidels are weldproof, nothing to do with being a demon 14:58 weldproof like cursed weapons can't attach themselves to you? 14:58 yeah 14:59 and rings, armor, etc etc 14:59 fun! 14:59 Lets you try on whatever with much fewer repercussions 14:59 try it ;-) 14:59 yeah but also you have to play infidel which is LAME 14:59 :-( 14:59 ur lame 14:59 >:[ 14:59 :[ 15:00 TOO gimmicky 15:00 * K2 slaps Loggers_VIII around a bit with a large trout 15:00 that was hurtful 15:00 I take it back 15:00 but no diss inf 15:00 * Loggers_VIII slaps k2 around a bit with a larger trout 15:00 and tortles are not gimmicky? 15:00 tortles are good gimmicks because their gimmicks just let you ignore game mechanics 15:01 I want less, not more :) 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had a two-handed sword entrusted to her by The Lady, on T:41012 (12:08:41) 15:03 Lady, how many two-handed swords do I need. :{ 15:05 k3ut0i: giant samurai can dual wield 2H swords... the most perfect race/role combo. 15:07 Yeah, I should try giants. Can the dragon scale those large splint mails? 15:07 they* 15:07 I don't think so since they can't wear the scales? but I don't play giant 15:07 only tiamat's scales will work. 15:08 otherwise, you need to pick your MR and reflection sources carefully 15:09 plus, you can get to 25 STR naturally so you won't need GoP for Real Ultimate Power (tm). 15:09 mithril tsurugi is awesome. got my tourist through the quest. 15:10 Just need a few mithril arrow luck. 15:10 can't get engulfed as a giant which is helpful, too. 15:11 I'm a huge giant samurai fan if you can't already tell. 15:13 Yeah, I got the mithril tsurugi idea from your giant samurai dump file :). 15:13 actually, can you poly into a form that can wear cloaks, wear the large splint mail, scale it, and then poly back into giant to have a scaled large splint mail? 15:14 can smaller forms wear large splint mail? 15:14 idk 15:14 I ask because I feel like I saw elron with a black-scaled large splint mail before 15:14 Yeah we cannot. 15:14 aw 15:15 You are too small to wear such as suit of armor 15:16 it may be that giant npc samurai could end up with dragon-scaled large splint mails? 15:16 can't do it. K2 made sure to clear up any workarounds for large splint + dsm. 15:17 also, throwing boulders at monsters is fun. 15:17 like Andre the Giant in Princess Bride. 15:18 the best part about giants is putting boulders a knight's move away from you so you always have a clear shot on covetous monsters 15:18 incredibly satisfying 15:18 100% 15:21 Giants working with boulders seems a lot of fun. In vanilla I used to polymorph into Titan and take some boulders for some astral plane shenanigans. 15:22 chromatic scales + large split could work? 15:22 splint 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:41104 (12:29:59) 15:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] MargeBouvier (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 12782 points, T:11268, killed by a dwarf king 15:32 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:33 heh... who's playing as Marge? 15:51 K2: I coded up a little sketch of a concept for magic chests 15:51 I warn you: it's super janky 15:52 However bad you expect it to be, it's worse 15:52 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/8afecb29dc3e10c853f01f365529987c0f7b956d 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven bracer entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:15852 (3:01:27) 16:08 omg ozzy just got disintegrated like three times in a row 16:08 sorry buddy but you're immortal so it's okay :) 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:73188 (9:43:56) 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had an alchemy smock entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:16207 (3:08:26) 16:18 Oh yeah, sliming thing for Kathryn might be worth looking into 16:18 even if no one really tries it anyway she might consider it cheating on principle :B 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:16739 (3:19:15) 16:22 terrapin: I had a dream recently where Bill Gates was criticizing me for my terrible commits. 16:22 on one had I was mortified. On the other hand I was confused why he'd even care. 16:23 haha! wild 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) genocided gray dragons, on T:73253 (9:47:04) 16:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9699 (2:08:38) 16:50 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Law) had 14 shuriken entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:10365 (2:14:01) 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Law) had 15 steel shuriken entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:10672 (2:17:57) 17:00 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 17:04 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:15 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:11784 (2:33:42) 18:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] MargeBouvier (Wiz Hob Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:2631 (0:11:18) 18:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] MargeBouvier (Wiz Hob Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "asdf", on T:3856 (0:18:12) 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:12606 (2:45:16) 20:14 terrapin wow nice 20:15 terrapin how are you able to do that as a commit? 20:18 Did you give him full admin powers to control evilhack himself 20:18 no 20:18 wow I have no clue then if you didn't give him any perms 20:18 I'm interested too then 20:19 this frightens and confuses my primitive caveman brain 20:20 oh huh it says "it may belong to a fork outside this repository" 20:20 maybe there's some way to access fork commits via the main repo? 20:20 ah 20:21 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/2243ba2 20:22 Oh, yeah, that's terribly confusing. #crawl used to have a bot command to generate one of those automatically with the commit summary (like "remove all armour, players are winning too much") you gave the bot 20:23 haha, like it would produce a fake commit with that message, upload it to its own fork, then link the commit as though it was on the upstream repo? 20:23 that's funny 20:23 we can all go prank #nethack with this knowledge now 20:24 I could be wrong about how it did it - it was years ago - but it totally produced plausible looking commits (before that "This commit does not belong...") message 20:24 this is how dynahack implemented magic chests - https://github.com/k21971/DynaHack/commit/b97d99ed27123fa0717ef8368b4f0d49d815c2c8 20:24 and fiqhack - https://github.com/k21971/FIQHack/commit/c467472b5c267cd1d2f8c27a90968a475a470b8a 20:25 but fiqhack looks like it makes an actual room generate with a magic chest 20:25 doesnt look like you can put it anywhere as a piece of furniture 20:25 yeah my approach would probably be more like those (though I just glanced at it) in terms of the backend implementation 20:26 i'm more partial to dynahack way 20:26 have a magic chest linked list of objects instead of putting a chest at 0,0 20:26 and saving/restoring it separately 20:26 yeah 20:26 I don't know if there's some reason it's better or worse but that would just be my instinct as to how to go about it 20:26 A+ though to terrapin throwing something together in a short amount of time 20:26 Putting a chest at 0,0 seems like an endless hilarious vein of bugs to tap into 20:26 yeah terrapin alluded to that 20:27 but yeah, having a magic be something like a throne or a sink, and you can place it anywhere in any .des file, that makes the most sense to me 20:28 *magic chest 20:30 yeah idk why the commit's url has k21971. confused me at first too 20:32 Ω 20:33 ^ magic chest symbol in both dyna and fiq i think 20:33 brb foood 20:43 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 20:54 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:58 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 2913 points, T:4899, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted wraith 21:06 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:11 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 21:13 wooop 21:13 oh heya shadowrider38 21:14 K2, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Shambling_horror 21:14 how's that look 21:14 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:16 you could prob get rid of splicehack-rewrite? not even sure why that's a thing 21:17 that immediately stuck out heh 21:17 Fair amount of differences between Old Splice and the rewrite, enough that I tend to differentiate them where I feel necessary 21:18 you could argue that every new version of is a form of rewrite yeah? 21:19 otherwise the article looks good 21:20 i was going to work more on wiz tower revamp (rewrite hahah) but i'm too sleepy 21:20 tomorrow perhaps 21:20 i wanna get it completely finished before this weekend 21:23 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:42 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1904 (0:15:31) 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3732 (0:31:40) 22:01 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3973 (0:34:59) 22:02 I found now that Centaur intelligence is capped at 12.. 22:02 Yesterday I thought I my int was drained from maybe 18 and I can only restore to 12. 22:04 The Orcus drained me around 100 max hp, I may need to go back to polypile some scroll of genocide to nurse dance... 22:05 Yeah he'll do that 22:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: [BBL]] 22:21 I can't distinguish where's light in gehennom. 22:21 Seems the same color. 22:22 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg1 (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 4424 points, T:5262, withered away 22:27 I found the Vlad's tower, seems all air. 22:28 Any cautions? 22:28 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:22094 (4:34:28) 22:45 Wow, there's a ring of levitaion in second floor, so that means one can dig in first floor? 23:06 will a /oCancel disable a gelcube's paralyze and engulf attacks? 23:06 Where would gelcube summons? 23:06 xdminsy: vlad1 is a bottomless chasm. Keep a reliable method of float/fly handy. 23:08 Ah yes, I'm flying, but I saw a ring of levitaion in level 2. 23:08 I haven't encounter a gelcube, I heard that it's recommended to genocide? 23:09 It is 23:09 @e?gelatinous cube 23:09 gelatinous cube (b) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 8 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison acid petrification | Confer: fire cold sleep shock | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 8 | Atk: 2d4 touch paralyze, 1d4 engulf wrap, 1d4 passive paralyze | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, mindless, vegan 23:10 definitely if you have the chance. Unfortunately for me I haven't id'd free action and magic breathing. 23:10 Paralysis and engulfing, kills you from basically any power level unless you resist paralysis or strangulation 23:10 there's two between me and the end of sokoban :( 23:10 I think cancelling a gelcube removes the paralysis but not the engulfing. 23:12 so I can risk engulfing and knock half it to 1/2 HP with /oDig 23:12 I think! 23:12 I see, so I should save one amulet of magical breath. 23:12 @e?Asmodeus 23:12 Asmodeus (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -7 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 3d6 claw slow, 6d6 cast cold, 6d6 cast clerical | Align: 20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 23:13 definitely! keep it in open inventory for a quick switch. Sea Dragons and Water Elementals will suffocate 23:15 welp... here goes nothing! 23:23 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 23:29 Should I use boulder fort to kill Asmodeus? 23:30 shouldn't be necessary 23:30 he's not so strong 23:31 I always just melee him 23:31 keep some healing potions ready, though 23:32 Okay, I could melee him. 23:32 The Gjallar is so useful, seems it can awake all bosses? 23:33 Or does a plain tooled horn can do this too? 23:33 oi Log 23:33 s 23:33 oi umby 23:34 xdminsy no, but drum of earthquake can 23:34 Lol hi all. 23:34 Seems Asmodeus is weak, he hit me 20 hp. 23:34 yeah with good AC, resistances and half phys+half spell damage not much can kill you 23:35 until he casts cold vulnerability, anyway 23:36 luckily he doesn't have his ridiculous vanilla cold attack 23:36 it's only 6d6 I think 23:36 @?asmodeus 23:36 Asmodeus (&) | Lvl: 105 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire cold poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: unique | AC: -7 | Atk: 4d4 claw physical, 6d6 cast cold | Align: 20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate 23:36 isn't it 6d6 ranged, something level-based in melee? 23:37 oh, does the melee damage just not show on pinobot? weird 23:37 it shows what's in monst.c 23:37 it's 30d6, 31d6 if he's reached level 50 23:38 @e?Lucifer 23:38 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 23:38 Hell 30d6, I remember once in vanilla he just kill me in 2 moves. 23:38 happened to me too once 23:38 never went there without cold res again :) 23:38 Can I melee Lucifer? 23:39 sure 23:39 what's your mhp 23:39 And just crown before gehennom can prevent a lot. 23:39 I'm now 319. 23:39 oh you'll be fine 23:39 I used to have 350 maybe, but Orcus drained around 100 mhp. 23:39 hit him with a potion of paralysis and go to town 23:40 I went back to nurse dance again then.. 23:40 Okay. 23:41 Weird, in vanilla the potion is wielded. 23:41 Lol here it is weapon in hand, I'd tweak my menucolor. 23:42 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a pair of gauntlets of protection, on T:24563 (5:13:00) 23:42 What, lucifer is not tier 3 demon boss? 23:42 no he is in the sanctum 23:43 Ah, sanctum in Dlvl 41. 23:43 I'm not sure, so I don't need to find vibrating square? 23:43 it goes like this: 23:43 1) random demon lord 23:43 2) second random demon lord/prince 23:43 3) orcus 23:43 4) random demon prince 23:43 no, you do 23:43 I'm found the wizard tower, should I go kill wizard first? 23:43 no 23:44 the wizard is quite nasty in evil you don't really want him harassing you for long 23:44 just find vibe square first and then go kill him 23:44 Kill Lucifer and find the square? 23:44 Okay. 23:44 @e?Wizard of Yendor 23:44 Wizard of Yendor (@) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 35 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison | Confer: fire poison | MR: 100 | Gen: unique | AC: -6 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical, 2d12 claw amulet steal, 0d0 cast spell, 0d0 cast clerical | Align: -128 | omnivore, flies, breathless, regen, seeinvis, tele, nopoly, covetous, infravis 23:45 lucifer is in sanctum 23:45 lucifer is no joke 23:45 you can't kill him before wizard 23:45 he will roll you up and smoke your ass 23:45 lucifer is very scary but for a very fast centaur with 300 HP, half damage and SoA I wouldn't worry about it 23:46 I'm a bit confused. 23:46 There's a Lucifer in my current level. 23:46 ??? 23:46 there should not be 23:46 are you certain 23:47 if he's actually there could you send a screenshot 23:47 https://ibb.co/znbpGmb 23:48 Just go downstair in Asmodeus level. 23:48 that's a bug then 23:49 you got into the sanctum without killing wiz somehow 23:49 emmmm. 23:49 * Loggers_VIII casts "summon k2" 23:50 Normally should I play the invocation on vibe square like vanilla? 23:50 yes 23:50 you're not meant to be able to access sanctum like that 23:50 And what will be in the next level of Asmodeus. 23:51 just filler 23:51 the sanctum is not meant to spawn on level 41 anyway 23:52 are you playing with the commit that splits the wiz tower into its own branch? 23:52 Ah ah yes. 23:52 Just built few days ago. 23:52 that'd be it then 23:52 Unix EvilHack Version 0.9.0-0 Beta - last build Fri Aug 18 13:38:52 2023. 23:53 yeah that is unfinished lol 23:53 Lol, so what should I do now? 23:53 eh.... go fight lucifer I guess? 23:53 that's the most fun part of the endgame anyway 23:53 only wish I could watch 23:53 Emmm, I haven't kill wizard of yendor? 23:53 doesn't matter if you can make it to the sanctum 23:54 Lol, I doubt if I can successfully ascend this game.. 23:54 Well let me just try lol. 23:56 There're too many junks in my bag, I'd drop some first.. 23:56 And, the wand of teleportation is so rare in EvilHack, I have only one this game.. 23:57 it's the same as in vanilla but they're just rare in general 23:57 sometimes you end up with a lot sometimes you only get one 23:57 I remember I may often get some, but this game I run 90k turns and only one. 23:57 Weird. 23:57 Maybe my longest game? 23:57 that happened to me to a couple times, it's frustrating :( 23:58 lol my longest game was 311,446 turns 23:59 Lol it's really so long.