00:00 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 00:12 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 00:15 Shouldn't I carry a wand of cancellation and stash it at some place safe? 00:15 If it explode my inventory will got cancelled right? 00:17 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:26 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:70335 (1 day, 3:19:52) 00:29 Sad I angered a watch captain, and be killed :( 00:29 I haven't see him, I just shoot daggers at a orc zombie and were arrested.. 00:49 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a touch of death), on T:70970 (1 day, 3:42:53) 00:53 Why does Vecna have -30 AC :( 00:53 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:54 I shot 50 +7 daggers at him and he is still alive. 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut1i (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:67, killed by a bolt of fire 00:59 RNG gods are angry at me today. 00:59 Thought I 01:00 Thought I'd relax from the stress vecna put me through and rng gods didn't like it. 01:01 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 01:02 -!- alivernine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:19 Vecna is a right bitch 01:19 as is Kas before him 01:20 xdminsy, also yeah always be mindful of how many projectiles you're shooting 01:20 if someone peaceful is in the line of fire 01:28 I know that, but I think maybe it's invisible. 01:28 !lastgame xdminsy 01:28 I'm not sure, I just saw a orc zombie stand before a wall, then I shot it. 01:28 Umbire: No last game for xdminsy. 01:29 Ah yes I play locally. 01:29 Oh, right, you play local a lot 01:29 Yeah 01:29 I pinged hardfought just now, it's 42ms. 01:29 Still somewhat laggy. 01:30 What's yours? maybe 15ms? 01:31 I'm not sure if my evilhack enabled dumpfile, or it's cuz I see the default sysconf dumpfile path is /dgldir. 01:31 Well I can't find my last game dumpfile lol :( 01:32 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 01:35 And I find that I cannot use my habitual alt+A to annotate. 01:41 Do save files not sync b/w other servers on hardfought? 01:42 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:52 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:01 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:08 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:12 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:13 Can priest with mitre of holiness convert altars in gehennom? 02:17 does zapping cursed wand of polymorph have any adverse effects...? 02:20 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:23 They can explode and in evilhack they can target you. 02:24 I see, do cursed wands in general do this? 02:24 Well ray wands will fire at you, but since polymorph is a beam I'm not sure. 02:25 Yeah 1/30 chance of cursed wand backfiring on you. 02:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:30 alright blessing it,thx 02:32 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:43 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:51 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:54 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:55 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:59 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:31 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 04:31 -!- xdminsy has left #evilhack 04:43 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:18 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 05:22 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:48 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 06:17 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:17 xdimsy: 42ms is not somewhat laggy -- you will generally perceive anything under 100ms as instantaneous 06:18 -!- krm26_goddamit_g has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:24 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 06:28 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:71136 (1 day, 4:12:20) 06:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 06:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:26 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:33 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 07:37 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Law) had a bone orcish helm entrusted to her by Issek, on T:72890 (1 day, 5:04:30) 07:38 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 07:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:41 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Law) had an orcish long sword entrusted to her by Issek, on T:73223 (1 day, 5:08:49) 07:43 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 07:44 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Law) had an orcish long sword entrusted to her by Issek, on T:73865 (1 day, 5:11:43) 07:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:153560 (2 days, 5:07:32) 07:48 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Law) had an orcish ring mail entrusted to her by Issek, on T:74483 (1 day, 5:16:08) 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Issek, on T:75497 (1 day, 5:26:00) 07:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:154133 (2 days, 5:19:02) 08:03 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4352 08:03 -!- Guest4352 has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 08:03 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Law) had a pair of orcish boots entrusted to her by Issek, on T:75760 (1 day, 5:31:46) 08:08 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 08:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Jospehas (Sam Hum Mal Law), 222 points, T:563, killed by a water moccasin 08:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:154556 (2 days, 5:32:21) 08:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the saddled barded Black Horse, on T:154557 (2 days, 5:32:23) 08:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:154649 (2 days, 5:36:25) 08:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the saddled White Horse, on T:154649 (2 days, 5:36:26) 08:17 \o/ 08:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 8711569 points, T:154664, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/evilhack/dumplog/1691806956.evil.html 08:17 Congrats. 08:18 such a disappointment :-P 08:18 Forges ? 08:18 lost my level 49 black dragon, had my stash polymorphed into a lock pick with my entire ascension kit and all the artifacts in it... 08:18 had my own sword of annihilation destroy my cloak and armor just before lucifer 08:19 bleargh 08:19 How did your sword destroy your own armor? 08:20 one of the rogs bullwhipped it off me and went to town 08:20 As in someone-- yeah 08:20 Damn 08:20 i wasnt as prepared as normal (see: stash poof) so i had to tough out a lot of stuff i normally finesse 08:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Jospehas (Val Dwa Fem Law), 349 points, T:1033, killed by a water moccasin 08:20 which is fine but i dont enjoy it as much 08:21 i mean, the way i ascended, i could have ascended 100k turns earlier if i had wanted to do that 08:21 i like slow and perfect 08:21 Yeah, takes all the fun out. 08:21 maybe i'll do a speed run next 08:22 After a 150k turn game, that will be fun to do. :) 08:22 oh that was a streak ascension 08:22 hmm 08:22 never had a 3 streak, maybe i should just play another super-cautious game :-| 08:25 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:34 in fact looks like mobileuser is the only one who has a 3 streak 08:38 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 08:39 congrats krm26 \o/ 08:42 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:43 I've been polypiling geno scrolls while waiting for suckers to walk up to my altar. Any nasty I see who can deteriorate armor, I geno. 08:45 Might take a break from altar camping to nurse dance some more, or reverse geno some dragons for scales. My yellow scaled mithril ring mail has served me well so far, but I've been wanting an upgrade to that. I already have a crystal plate mail waiting to be dragon-scaled. 08:46 yay congrats krm26! 08:47 if you are polypiling anyway alivernine, the easiest way to boost hp is polying potions for speed/healing/extra/energy/full 08:47 i'm coming for your 3-streak mobileuser! (hah, fat chance :-) 08:47 what are the new ones -- drow and tortle sammy? 08:48 VaderFLAG has a 6 streak and my best is 5 :-) 08:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Law) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to her by Issek, on T:78945 (1 day, 6:15:37) 08:48 so work to do krm26 ;-) 08:48 i was confused by the "first combo 3 streak" etc 08:48 ah 08:49 in fact i'm not sure that data makes sense 08:49 I even have an active 4-streak I see 08:49 https://nethackscoreboard.org/streaks.evil.html 08:49 cool! didn't even know there was an independent streaks section 08:50 how does drow sammy work? is the drow lawful? 08:51 awww new sammy races not live are they, getting ahead of myself 08:57 no they arent heh 08:57 teenage mutant tortle samurai \o/ 09:05 drow monk, tortle samurai 09:05 rawr 09:05 had to check, I couldn't imagine a drow samurai :-) 09:05 heh 09:07 Please give me Ogresmasher. I want that half phys damage from Ashmar. :( 09:07 ohhhh no drow sammy, i got cornfused 09:08 Or, well, anything to make a pair. My stash looks like this: Mjolnir, Frostbrand, Werebane, Magicbane, Trollsbane, a buncha random junk/polyfodder... 09:09 I now have 7 wands of polymorph and I haven't identified the charges on 90% of all my wands because I got so many. My bag of  the hesperides is a stash in and of itself. 09:13 Oh yeah I also got Demonbane and Angelslayer. 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:2005 (0:36:28) 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu), 2645 points, T:2477, killed by the Goblin King, while sleeping 09:41 dammit, woulda survived the goblin king's wand of death, but instead he had a wand of sleep :-) 09:43 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:45 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:52 I had a game where the goblin king had a wand of polymorph 09:52 wasn't fun 10:01 -!- alivernine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:02 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:15 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 10:15 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/e537fd00cc64...99d0a184c68c 10:15 [EvilHack] k21971 99d0a18 - Allow tortles to wear rigid gloves/helmets. 10:24 oo 10:28 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/99d0a184c68c...cac0647158f0 10:28 [EvilHack] k21971 cac0647 - The Rat King will sometimes spawn with a ring of teleport control. 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2908 (0:38:33) 10:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Tormuse (Cav Gia Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Anu, on T:62525 (2 days, 11:49:11) 10:36 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) had a mace entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:4274 (1:01:08) 10:55 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 10:56 Ugh, no.... I fat-fingered stashing things into the bag of hesperides and accidentally stashed my oilskin sack with the wands of cancellation. 11:00 i did that last week :-) kablooie 11:01 no matter how careful i am, no matter how many years go bye...every once in a while 11:01 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 11:01 Why are vampires fleeing from me before I even attacked them? 11:01 your reputation precedes you 11:03 Well, he came back :) 11:07 Haaa, I was standing on an altar. 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Law) had an orcish scimitar entrusted to her by Issek, on T:82243 (1 day, 7:52:58) 11:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:6253 (1:27:34) 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Issek, on T:82942 (1 day, 8:12:45) 11:28 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Law) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:83015 (1 day, 8:14:57) 11:31 Went to go get breakfast but man oh man does it suck. My wand of wishing didn't survive. 11:32 From what I see the run is still salvageable. 11:32 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 11:33 i ascended this morning after me entire stash and ascension kit was turned into a lock pick :-) you can always salvage it 11:33 just gotta adjust your expectations of glory down 11:39 -!- alivernine has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:40 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 11:44 I still also managed to save two of my magic markers, but I see now that I should probably dragon-scale the crystal plate mail I have. 11:45 any-dragon-scale-on-any-armor is better than any undragonscaled armor (other than perhaps the armor of retribution) 11:47 I have sea dragon scales, but I should probably reverse-geno yellow ones because then I don't have to worry about getting Ashmar for acid res, and the stoning resistance will be valuable too. 11:47 Not that the shield of mobility I have is useless--far from it. 11:53 it saddens me so much that the shield of mobility and shield of light cannot be wished for in some form that doesnt interfere with casting 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Law) had a broadsword entrusted to her by Issek, on T:83481 (1 day, 8:38:37) 12:10 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1544 (0:17:10) 12:37 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±16] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/cac0647158f0...e41ccb63049c 12:37 [EvilHack] k21971 e41ccb6 - Vampire types cannot be genocided until Vlad the Impaler is destroyed. 12:38 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6460 (0:39:23) 12:46 K2: "if the rigid gloves/helm in question are cursed and its beautitude is known, the player will not be able to wear it because it would prevent enshelling" -- why not let the player decide on that tradeoff? 12:47 maybe I think it's worth losing enshelling to be able to wear my helm of opposite alignment or something 12:47 especially because this means you can't put it on and then use remove curse on it 12:48 you can. you just have to use TWO remove curse :-) 12:48 the "tortle tax" 12:50 ^ this 12:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 5211 points, T:6931, killed by Lolth, while sleeping 12:51 just seems like a weird removal of agency from a player who might feel the tradeoff is worth making, since now the in-game logic is purely "you decide not to do this because you feel it's not worth it" 12:51 i was thinking about having rigid helm/gloves come off if enshelling, but that just seems too silly 12:52 qt hmm 12:52 I don't have a problem with limiting enshelling based on wearing the hat or whatever, it just feels odd to me to tell them they can't make the decision themselves about whether to risk that 12:52 lemme think on it 12:54 sure, totally your call ofc, it just feels like a potentially interesting decision a player could make -- whether to lose enshelling to gain the benefit of a helmet or not (e.g. facing a bunch of zombie and you only have a cursed helmet -- what do you decide to do?) 12:54 or similar with gloves -- you could pick up the cockatrice corpse if you just put on some cursed gloves, but then you'll be stuck with them and lose enshelling for who knows how long bc you have no remove curse 12:55 those could be interesting and fun scenarios to run into imo 12:56 yeah 12:59 #monster; "You are wearing rigid gear and this will take a while. Are you sure? y/n" 12:59 extra turns to pop out of rigid helm/gloves 12:59 smop but probably the best ui solution 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) had a club entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:10493 (3:13:37) 13:05 more full hermes entrusting me with a club 13:06 fool -- brain really starting to rot from the inside 13:16 krm26 that's a good idea 13:16 how would one add x number of turns to enshelling if wearing rigid armor 13:17 i've never looked at any of the duration code :-P 13:18 rub qt's lamp! 13:18 right now enshelling is an instant action right? 13:18 i see 'delay' but that's for taking off armor 13:18 qt yeah 13:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:2612 (0:27:21) 13:18 you'd have to make it a multi-turn task like putting on armor 13:18 with multi / multi_reason I guess 13:18 basically paralyze you for a few turns then set a callback that makes you enshelled at the end of the timeout 13:18 oh wait it isnt 13:19 as a fast samurai it took 2 turns to enshell 13:19 huh 13:19 weird I didn't remember that 13:20 wait but you're a fast samurai turtle right? 13:20 yes 13:20 do normal actions take 2 turns if you're a fast tortle 13:20 no 13:21 example: switching weapons takes 1 turn, a couple of times no turns 13:21 it seems to me like sometimes normal actions do take 2 turns 13:22 i have just tried sitting and resting and sometimes when i press . 0 turns pass, sometimes 1, sometimes 2 13:22 yeah 13:22 ok I just did it just after a 2 turn rest and enshelling took 0 turns 13:22 it's just variable between 0-2 turns depending on the cycle of your movement points 13:23 yeah 13:23 so it is immediate in that sense 13:23 yeah, that's what I meant 13:24 i think what you'd want to do is look at do_wear.c and how it uses afternmv, multi/nomul(), multi_reason 13:25 basically you'd set afternmv to the callback function that would trigger (in this case I guess it would be toggle_shell) 13:25 then call nomul(); and set multi_reason to "enshelling" or whatever 13:25 this is getting complicated heh 13:25 actually I can't remember, you want either or - depending on whether the action should be voluntarily interruptable 13:26 yeah i'm not familiar with any of those functions 13:26 yeah it's not as easy to make an action take multiple terms but I think that's basically it 13:26 afternmv callback, nomul, and multi_reason 13:26 if you look at accessory_or_armor_on(do_wear.c) you can see how that trio works there 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3257 (0:36:10) 13:34 here's a very simple bare minimum example of what I mean https://termbin.com/nr1f 13:34 it makes it take 5 turns to enter your shell but exiting your shell is still a normal action 13:37 i guess what you'd probably want to do in reality is move that code into some function like "use_shell" (along with the things like toggleshell checks for whether you can even begin to hide in your shell), put the messages in there, and leave toggleshell to contain only silent work that actually swaps the shell on or off 13:39 no i think this will work. i dont want to refactor the whole enshelling routine just for this, at least not now 13:39 i'll try this example out, thanks qt 13:41 it wouldn't be a crazy refactor, it would basically just involve moving the extra code into a wrapper for toggleshell so it's not clogging up domonability, and moving some of the extraneous parts out of toggleshell too (so you don't say "go into your shell" and then waste 5 turns before seeing "actually you can't attempt to go in your shell right now") 13:42 would you like to make a PR for that? 13:42 well I don't know exactly how you plan to do the delays but yes I can flush it out a bit more so it will be a better scaffolding for you to work on 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) had an alchemy smock entrusted to her by Hermes, on T:12713 (3:52:31) 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +1 spear on an altar, on T:4388 (0:53:19) 13:44 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/e41ccb63049c...3bd2cab4050f 13:44 [EvilHack] k21971 3bd2cab - Don't prevent tortles from wearing certain cursed armor. 13:44 i already had that ready to go 13:45 so now just the refactor/delay bits 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4461 (0:54:19) 13:45 but yeah qt that sounds good, do your magic and i can tweak it after the fact 13:45 i suppose a diff would make that easier than a PR... up to you 13:49 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 13:53 ok what I mean is something like this https://termbin.com/abomm 13:54 ahh 13:55 that's neat 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:31546 (4:25:34) 14:00 so e.g. if you make the delay only when entering your shell you get something like this for entering: You begin to retreat into your shell. The kitten misses the newt. The kitten bites the newt. The newt is killed! You finish hiding in your shell. 14:00 but for leaving just: You emerge from your shell. 14:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:02 cool 14:03 actually though, it might be a bit more complicated than this because I think some actions are interruptable and some aren't, and I'm not sure which this is 14:04 this should be imo uninterruptable 14:05 ok, I am not actually sure but I think this might be uninterruptable currently. i think to make it properly interruptable you'd have to use set_occupation(callback, "entering your shell", time) instead of nomul(-time) 14:06 i think nomul(-time) basically paralyzes the hero until it times out 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:14108 (4:15:16) 14:06 GOOOOOOOOOLD 14:06 * K2 nods 14:07 I think interrupting an action gets more complicated because you probably have to do something funny to allow the hero to resume it where they left off, etc. like how when you're taking off armor with 'A' you can be interrupted and leave an armor half-doffed 14:07 so if you think it should be uninterruptable all the better, I think it's simpler 14:08 Ctrl+x: You are 37% enshelled. 14:12 [14:04] <@K2> this should be imo uninterruptable 14:13 sorry, been back n forth with crazy sister of owner VP for my employer 14:13 she logged a ticket because the firewall blocked a lingerie shop she was trying to shop on 14:14 (sexually explicit content is blocked) 14:15 i explained that, and i also pointed out that in the company employee handbook, no one is supposed to be using their computers for anything not work releated - and if they do and they run into a problem, too bad 14:15 it would be like me logging a ticket to IT because irc wasnt working 14:15 but she's Important k2 you Have to chance the rules 14:15 fuck that 14:15 s/chance/change 14:16 u have to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 14:16 so she came back with and I quote 'You must follow the policies of the governor of Florida.' 14:16 their offices are in FL 14:18 its so stupid, i'm not sure how to react 14:18 i dont know whether to laugh or what 14:19 "daaaaaaaaaaaaaad make k stop bullying meeeeeeeeeeee!!!!" 14:20 oh man, random dragonhide robe :( 14:20 why does this always happen when I play tortle 14:20 because of the policies of the gov of FL 14:20 The only appropriate response to that is "wut" 14:20 i dont think desantis has a lot of policies about buying lingerie 14:21 what's she gonna do, send you a letter from desantis saying she should be able to shop for lingerie?? 14:21 oh yes yes ask for that 14:21 "have governer desantis write to me at this address:" 14:21 hahahahah 14:21 where in florida is this branch located? 14:22 i'm not replying anymore, she's insane 14:22 del ray beach 14:22 and my boss wont engage, i told him it shouldnt be me talking to her anymore at this point. he wants to wait for HR to return on monday 14:22 ffs 14:23 hmm, that is a normally stupid and insane part of florida, not an exceptional one 14:23 in general maybe 14:23 there will be outliers 14:24 well, the normally stupid and insane is significantly stupid and insane 14:24 k2 i can't seem to find any lingerie stores before the oracle level in this run 14:24 the governer of florida promised me as a sovereign citizen i get lingerie stores 14:25 does the governer of florida mandate free access to lingerie for all 14:25 because tbh I don't think the governer has the power to do that 14:25 I'm pretty sure it's written directly into the florida constitution 14:26 If that's who I think it is I suspect his head will explode if half of humanity wants lingerie at all 14:26 actually the governor can do anything, irregardless of the constitution, because the legislature and courts rubber stamp all his actions 14:26 we have a single desantis branch of government 14:27 that's cool 14:27 oooh f 14:34 per the company employee handbook, i should block all shopping websites en masse 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:85305 (1 day, 9:56:14) 14:42 Got the hand. Only fair, I fought him 4 times. :| 14:42 \o/ 14:42 I haven't gotten to Vecna yet in any of my 95 attempts so far. How good are the Eye and the Hand? 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:33935 (4:52:03) 14:43 the eye and the hand are both very good 14:43 the eye is a little less powerful but the hand takes up your glove slot permanently 14:43 First time putting on the hand. I always had gopur by the time I fought him. 14:44 I also prefer gopur which has annoyed me since he hasn't dropped the eye for me in months 14:44 I'm reading the Hand's extrinsics right now--hungerless regen and half phys sound scuffed, but death magic res from the GoP is a bit too hard to pass up. 14:46 sickness res is also good 14:46 though there's a lot of sources of that in evil now 14:48 fun, got two free yellow dragon pets from medusa 14:50 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:58 qt i tweaked it just a tad - https://termbin.com/rf6p 14:58 the 'delay =' bit 15:01 yeah enshelling is not interrupted 15:01 this is pretty cool qt 15:02 10 turns may be too much? its good for testing that's for sure 15:02 you could replace that ternary with `if ((uarmg && is_hard(uarmg) || (uarmh && is_hard(uarmh)) { delay = 10; }` 15:02 since it's already 0 15:02 You begin to retreat into your shell. Your protective shell blocks the jackal's attack. The fox misses. 15:02 The jackal misses. The newt misses. The fox misses. The fox misses. The jackal bites! The newt misses. 15:02 The fox misses. The jackal misses. The newt misses. The fox misses. The jackal misses. The fox misses. 15:02 The jackal bites! The newt misses. The fox misses. The jackal misses. The newt misses. The fox misses. 15:02 The jackal narrowly misses! The fox misses. The fox misses. The jackal narrowly misses! The newt misses. 15:02 The fox misses. The fox misses. The jackal bites! The newt bites! The fox misses. You finish hiding in your shell. Your protective shell blocks its bite! 15:02 might be easier to follow 15:03 cool 15:03 is that normal that it says your shell blocks the bite even before you're in the shell, or is that a bug 15:03 its normal 15:03 cool 15:04 maybe 3-5 turns would be better 15:05 10 does seem kind of long 15:05 you could make it increase if you wear both kinds 15:05 hmm 15:05 like if (uarmg && is_hard(uarmg)) delay += 5; if (uarmh && is_hard(uarmh)) delay += 5; 15:05 yeah 15:05 good idea 15:05 or replace the 5s with 3s, whatever 15:05 i'd prob make it a bit random 15:05 rn2(4) + 2 15:06 the RNG is with us in all things 15:06 praise be to the RNG 15:10 What do you guys think of a warning prompt when you accidentally put an identified wand of cancellation or any container holding such a thing into a bag of holding? 15:10 If this is not in the spirit of game design, I guess I will have to be more mindful about which keys I am pressing in the future. :) 15:16 yup be more careful. I'm typically not in the habit of protecting players from themselves 15:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:16 i relented a bit with paranoid water/lava and I still hate myself to this day for doing it 15:23 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:23 K2: but you were correct :-) 15:24 Ah, I suppose it would help in retrospect to key dangerous items to uppercase letters. The oilskin sack was keyed to e. 15:24 Also, uh, I should fold origami more to improve real life DEX. 15:24 alivernine: When I had not yet trained myself, I changed pack_order so at least I would put my wands in the bag of holding _first_, keeping the rest of my items being stashed. 15:25 alivernine what I do with wands of cancellation - rekey to Z (or any capital letter really), and when i see it in inventory it's yellow in color 15:25 nothing else shows as yellow, so if i see that color, i know 'no touchie in bag' 15:25 Pinkbeast :P 15:26 Well fine, I won't praise any of your decisions. ;-) 15:26 heheh 15:28 alivernine yeah it helps to keep your oilskin sack/wands of cancellation on uppercase letters, and make them super bright colors in inventory 15:38 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/3bd2cab4050f...bf0afc547082 15:38 [EvilHack] k21971 bf0afc5 - Refactor tortle enshelling. 15:43 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:52 if I attack a quest leader, will my pets attack them? 15:53 they will attack them either way -- if their level is high enough 15:53 oh, I thought they wouldn't attack peaceful quest npcs 15:53 ...i am unaware if that is a thing, but you might be right 15:54 polytrap for my 3 kitties! fog cloud, yellow light, barrow wight when it finally disappears :-/ 15:55 :( 15:55 Is your quest leader hostile? my dragon ate my quest leader after I refused to give up the artifact. 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:34885 (5:11:22) 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an archon named Guy Montag", on T:34890 (5:11:58) 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic whistle", on T:34890 (5:12:08) 15:57 no but he's going to be soon 15:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:34892 (5:12:22) 16:01 lame, 0:1 wand 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15545 (4:55:24) 16:07 I don't think pets will attack peaceful quest leaders, because in pre-3.7 vanilla that would make the game unwinnable 16:14 It would be nice if orange dragons also give 'slow resistance'. 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Hippocrates, on T:35979 (5:24:12) 16:15 lol, sacrificed hippocrates: "you glance a four-leaf clover at your feet!" 16:15 not having a warning prompt for putting a wand of cancellation into a BoH is stupid for the same reason not having paranoid water is 16:15 i prefer to blow up my bags with magicbane 16:16 instead what would be a nice gui improvement is being able to mark an inventory letter as "no go in bag ever no never" 16:16 I think in a vaccuum having no prompt for boh explosion is silly but it's just too funny to get rid of I think 16:16 so mark K or whatever as that and put your wand (or your bag with the wand in it) in that slot 16:17 if you accidentally fatfinger all (which is probably the only way this ever happens) all will exclude that marked letter and no harm no foul 16:17 player still needs to be "aware of the potential issue" but is safe from fingerbanging themself 16:18 that is of course a smop 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:36326 (5:29:46) 16:23 oracle corpse oughta give telepathy 16:24 no, perma hallucination 16:25 lol 16:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:27 -!- alivernine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:29 am i correct that in minetown there don't have to be witnesses to fountain abuse for the guards to get pissed at you? 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:86371 (1 day, 11:45:52) 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:86409 (1 day, 11:47:50) 16:34 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:34 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:37 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Hea Cen Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:17531 (5:36:19) 16:46 honestly i'd be happy with removing the 'A' option 16:47 it's way to easy to miss a keystroke and hit ',' instead of '?,' or whatever and dump everything in your bag instead of just all your scrolls 16:47 Yeah, the few times I exploded my bag it was due to 'A' puting eveything. 16:48 and what is the 'A' really for, anyway? it saves one keystroke, for goodness's sake! 16:49 for 'splosions! 16:59 You kill the wererat! n - a pair of dragonhide gloves named Dragonbane 17:00 May be your luck has turned :) 17:02 it's a trap 17:08 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:11 terrapin: shut up shut up shut up 17:11 I love A 17:22 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:86980 (1 day, 12:50:20) 17:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:87085 (1 day, 12:54:29) 17:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:59 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:09 If a rogue becomes lawful and steals from others will that affect alignment? 18:15 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 18:34 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:34 -!- alivernine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:37 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:54 qt loves the A 19:08 The D's OK, but I couldn't eat a whole one 19:11 just remember to not eat a W after 19:33 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±5] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/bf0afc547082...0c115ad21e10 19:33 [EvilHack] k21971 0c115ad - Merge various skills. 19:36 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 19:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:1266 (0:09:11) 19:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:37361 (5:36:32) 19:46 is goblin town no-teleport? 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1990 (0:14:08) 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) genocided green slimes, on T:38065 (5:41:39) 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:38068 (5:42:10) 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:38069 (5:42:33) 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) genocided orange dragons, on T:38071 (5:43:00) 19:52 yep 19:53 nice 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 6549 points, T:2370, killed by a mastodon 19:54 ! 19:54 should've just ran away 19:54 what happened 19:54 !lastgame nabru 19:54 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1692401770.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1683120838.evil.html 19:54 I was stupid, got a minetown with a mastodon 19:54 thought I could tackle it 19:55 that is incredibly ballsy 20:04 you're ballsy 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Geryon, on T:39630 (5:54:24) 20:06 at this rate I'll kill all the demon bosses before I even make it to gehennom 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:40621 (6:11:51) 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:40641 (6:12:07) 20:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:41207 (6:24:53) 20:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 3593 points, T:2193, killed by the Goblin King 21:00 @e?mastodon 21:00 mastodon (q) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Atk: 4d8 butt physical, 1d6 hug physical, 4d8 butt knockback | Align: 0 | genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravis 21:25 -!- Demo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26 -!- Demo has joined #evilhack 22:57 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 11530 points, T:6994, killed by a black dragon 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1512 points, T:2302, killed by Mr. Adjama; the shopkeeper 23:58 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±11] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/0c115ad21e10...082853b973b3 23:58 [EvilHack] k21971 082853b - Track defeating Saint Michael.