00:12 Cleared everything except Rodney, found vibrating square, so my Valk is at hp 306, ac -48. What prep should I do for the end game? I can try the drain self thing to level 1 and buy more AC from VotD priest. 00:13 How should the end game prep differ from vanilla is basically what i'm wondering 00:14 -!- alivernine has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:16 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 00:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:53 -!- alivernine has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:28 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 02:30 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 02:39 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3691 (1:06:05) 03:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4269 points, T:3766, choked on a lichen corpse 03:22 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 03:26 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:59 K2, semi-random question - can any monster wearing GoP auto-tear through webs? 04:12 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:37755 (7:39:33) 05:18 -!- guest724 has quit [Quit: @] 06:13 yes terrapin the improper pluralization 06:16 eggandhull: most important endgame stuff is imo gold detection for planes, full healing, plenty of wands of teleportation for clearing your way. nice but not mandatory are para, maybe a few cursed gain level, blessed genocide to clear out water, cursed genocide and taming if you want buddies, probing, emergency earth, etc 06:16 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:18 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:40610 (9:23:17) 06:21 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:40686 (9:26:53) 06:21 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40687 (9:26:59) 06:32 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) refused to give up The Master Key of Thievery to the Master of Thieves, on T:41170 (9:37:15) 06:32 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:41171 (9:37:20) 06:33 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:05 -!- Tangles has quit [*.net *.split] 07:07 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 07:24 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:27 k2: i had a dream last night that you gave me a lift in your rivian (you looked like Martin Starr) and omigod the dream rivian was AMAZING. woke up with a powerful urge to buy one 07:27 it had a bathroom and a star trek turbolift 07:28 (i dont think those are featured nearly enough in the ad copy) 07:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:7942 (2:23:14) 07:49 lol 07:49 i'm way prettier than martin starr 07:50 except for the being old and ugly part 07:51 (and the turbolift is very nice) 08:20 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:22 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu), 21096 points, T:10993, killed by a mastodon, while moving through the air 08:33 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:38 -!- mobileuser60 has joined #evilhack 08:40 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:40 -!- mobileuser60 is now known as mobileuser 08:50 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 08:56 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:57 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 09:09 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 09:11 krm26: what do you need cursed gain level for in the planes? 09:11 I don't think it works there 09:14 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:19 no, for the run back up before the planes 09:20 he was asking about post-book, the entire post-ritual run 09:27 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:39 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 09:50 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 09:55 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:06 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a bone dagger entrusted to her by Set, on T:54662 (19:16:00) 10:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3714 (0:20:39) 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:118098 (1 day, 13:20:00) 10:19 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 10:25 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a club entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:4872 (0:36:46) 10:44 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:44801 (12:00:38) 10:49 My shambling horror: 4d8 sting steal item, 6d8 claw sleep, 3d5 claw stun, 4d8 tentacle eat brains 10:50 eat brains is always excellent :-) 10:50 any one of steal items, stun, or eat brains is mandatory non-adjacency for me 10:50 -!- rebatela has joined #evilhack 10:50 if sleep was disenchant it would be a perfect horror 10:52 Yeah it is slow enough, else that a demon lord level. 10:53 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 10:54 perfect horror has vorpal too 10:58 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:119153 (1 day, 14:06:18) 11:06 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 11:10 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "+3 grimtooth", on T:46013 (12:38:03) 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) used a forge to create Shadowblade, on T:46014 (12:38:18) 11:29 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 11:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Hecubus, her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:95 (0:00:50) 11:30 krm26: thx, this list sounds exactly the same as vanilla 11:31 krm26: nothing new to prepare? i guess way more paralysis potions? is cancellation protection important? 11:32 cancellation protection is nice if it fits your outfit but not mandatory 11:32 myself, i don't use paralysis hardly at all -- some other serial ascenders use it a lot more 11:33 my main crutch is teleportation, which i use a ton in purgatory so i never have to interact with player monsters 11:33 paralysis will make lucifer more managable 11:33 if i have doubts about lucifer i'm more likely to boulder fort him than paralyze him 11:33 i normally have 5 or 6 potions of paralysis in my ascension kit and typically i don't use any 11:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 509 points, T:922, killed by a giant rat 11:34 it is good for emergencies tho 11:34 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:34 gg, this game produced a grand total of 2 tele wands 11:34 i guess i have many pages of items in stash to polypile first 11:34 paralysis is great against demon uniques and often helpful against magic-resistant Rodney, but often the issues you face on ascension are high-AC NPCs/Rodney, and it's very difficult to hit them with paralysis, so it's not amazingly useful 11:35 yeah i often turn all my light, secret door detection, and create monster into big tp wands 11:35 if you're okay with risking it, a cancellation wand is super helpful against high-AC characters 11:35 terrapin: wdym by risking it? risk not hitting? 11:35 risking carrying it around 11:36 kaboom 11:36 ok, so zap them to drop their AC 11:36 but the best way to deal with high-ac player monsters is never interact with them at all the buggers 11:37 can i just jump around everything lol 11:37 absolutely 11:37 often 11:37 is hp 306, ac -48 good enough for a first timer, or risky? 11:37 that's the right mindset! 11:37 thats fine 11:38 what role? 11:38 Val Cen 11:38 this is so weird 11:38 i mean i don't my doing the lifestealer self drain thing 11:39 so if i attack bare handed a black dragon while wearing GoP, AC and str adjust accordingly if they are disintegrated 11:39 yes, i tried that too k2 11:39 it was just the dex 11:39 if i do the same wearing gauntlets of dexterity, the AC adjusts but the dex adjustment stays 11:40 what happens if you put on another pair of dex? 11:40 does it add even more? 11:40 the effect will stack 11:40 up to 25 11:40 i didn't try that in my current game cuz didn't want to lose my bug dex :-) 11:41 this si what i have so far - https://termbin.com/nitj 11:41 and that seemed to help when wielding a of excellence 11:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2307 points, T:1491, killed by a leather golem 11:41 but the dex bonus still persists 11:42 and i dont understand why 11:42 adding remove_worn_item and setnotworn, that's exactly how its handled when an object erodes away 11:43 say, punching a water elemental with unfixed GoP 11:43 see erode_obj in trap.c 11:43 but yeah... kinda stumped 11:43 brb i need food 11:44 are wielded/worn items not carried? 11:44 i'm also running on fumes, got maybe 3 hrs sleep last night, bleh 11:45 ./include/obj.h:320:#define carried(o) ((o)->where == OBJ_INVENT) 11:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful shadow dragon, on T:74218 (1 day, 13:19:14) 11:45 carried implies in your inventory but not necessarily wielded/worn 11:46 its setup like this in erode_obj the same way 11:46 then everything's caught by the if (carried(weapon)) case 11:46 but erode_obj doesnt have this issue 11:46 oh wait 11:46 DAMMIT 11:47 terrapin i think you are correct 11:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1278 points, T:1187, killed by a spotted jelly 11:48 ok brb 11:48 if i dont eat i'm gon die 11:48 bon appetit 11:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1234 (0:05:46) 12:04 this would be an old bug 12:04 like, years old 12:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:19 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a spellbook of remove curse given to him by Hermes, on T:7433 (0:50:14) 12:20 oh wonderful 12:20 thats a very nice A 12:21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GoCvuu0dlQ 12:21 mm i know how to guarantee a chromatic scales drop....i'll make the armor of retribution 12:22 cant dragon scale the AoR 12:24 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:24 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:25 i know 12:25 that is how i will guarantee it drops 12:25 i wont be able to use it 12:25 ah i see 12:26 the krm26 factor 12:26 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 12:27 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:28 i just ate 9 amulets of magical breathing without getting the intrinsic! just another normal day 12:29 #10 is the ticket 12:35 99% of gamblers stop before they win a billion gazillion dollars 12:35 the same principle applies here 12:37 huh, must be a new moon tonight 12:38 almost got triced real quick 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:120332 (1 day, 15:15:43) 12:38 no lizards yet, unlucky 12:38 last time i played 7 card stud at a casino in pennsylvania, the guy next to me got up to use the bathroom, so his remaining cards werent dealt (lost his ante but he had to rush hah) 12:38 at the end of the hand, dealer flipped his cards up 12:38 the card he would have received, I got 12:39 if he had stayed he woulda had a royal flush 12:39 hahahahaha 12:39 i showed everyone there and lemme tell ya 12:39 woooo boy 12:39 royal flush is super rare 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:76079 (1 day, 14:13:57) 12:40 when I play sheepshead, every once in a while someone gets a misdeal when someone else gets a totally ridiculous hand 12:40 i broke even and left 12:40 sheepshead is too obscure to talk about tho lol 12:40 brb 12:40 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:40 heh 12:44 yup stripping out carried() fixes that bit 12:44 smh 12:45 i'm looking right at it and didnt realize 12:45 droooooooooooool 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:47378 (14:03:06) 12:49 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/7253753eb1c3...738d7b1fcc84 12:49 [EvilHack] k21971 738d7b1 - Fix: player objects destroyed via passive disintegration handling. 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had a two-handed sword entrusted to her by Crom, on T:121024 (1 day, 15:27:09) 12:50 krm26 this bit - bashed my canceled black dragon with a potion of restore ability and disintegrated my gauntlets of dexterity 12:50 i believe that's behaving normally 12:50 yes, i think so too 12:51 since originally only offensive potion bashing was considered 12:51 potion is destroyed on hit -> hit registers -> disint routine rng roll gets lucky and engages -> disint worn gloves 12:51 of course, now that potion-bashing on pets is a fairly typical thing it does seem weird 12:51 well black dragons are an outlier 12:51 you can cast restore ability spell on them instead 12:51 what the game really needs is a #feed where you can pass food and drink directly to an adjacent friendly for consumption 12:52 #loot 12:52 well its not thrown 12:52 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 12:53 certainly if an intelligent monster is given through #loot an item that could cure a condition, like a potion of restore ability, you might expect them to use it immediately 12:55 Does repair armor spell re-apply foo-proofing? 12:55 No 12:57 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:58 kk 12:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:121976 (1 day, 15:40:24) 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:47727 (14:19:37) 13:05 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 13:11 Ice queen took my daggers and enchantress isn't giving them back :(. 13:14 You do not need daggers. 13:14 You can kill demogorgon with your bare hands. 13:14 I'm sure it'll be fine. 13:15 steal 'em back! 13:15 My hands will be bare because all my daggers will be thrown :) 13:15 terrapin: without angering her? 13:16 if you succeed, you won't piss her off 13:16 but yeah, there is a danger without high thievery skill and dexterity 13:17 May be I'll come back after getting dext-gloves and imporving thievery. 13:24 somehow all i want to do in evilhack now is get dragon pets and forge polished barding for them 13:24 hunting down aleaxes for material 13:26 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 13:26 heh 13:27 it's finally starting to click 13:27 oh yeah, barding! 13:27 it IS useful 13:27 whoda thunk 13:28 wish i had a yellow dragon instead of a black dragon tho 13:28 i know it is only a matter of time 13:29 still waiting for someone to forge and use Ilithmar 13:29 would if i could but i'd have to wish for grayswandir 13:32 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:36 wish there was a spiked barding of reflection. Chance for pegasus to avoid disintegration and engulfing both. 13:36 ithilmar ^ 13:36 dragonbane + grayswandir + vorpal blade (2 steps) 13:37 too unavailable. 13:37 i've always found it odd that pets happily attack black dragons without disintegration resistance 13:37 i've lost more pegasi to that than black dragon breath 13:37 just color-blind pets :-) 13:38 "i thought it was a shadow dragon, boss!" 13:40 woohoo, restore ability potions found after 57k turns! 13:41 umm...yay? 13:42 i can finally get that cheesy 11 AC from priests 13:42 there is more than enough money to buy it all at any level! you cant take it with you :-) 13:43 k2: reduce gp in the game from most sources by an order of magnitude 13:44 ooh k2, divide found gold by max(1,(maxleveldescended-10) #addressnethackinflation 13:45 but that would destroy orcus town's economy 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:125320 (1 day, 16:33:46) 14:01 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 14:01 i'm so sleepy 14:05 it is getting pretty late, in the ukraine 14:06 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:09 i *think* i now have every artifact except the one i want! means i'm getting close 14:09 accepting of course the unobtainable grayswandir 14:35 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 14:40 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:10306 (1:13:33) 14:58 damn, I'm wondering if that obuf usage from the recent vanilla PR was actually the cause of the ongoing EvilHack issue 15:00 K2: do you have any actual examples of that handy 15:04 K2: looking in the etherpad for examples of that bug I saw this: 15:04 "Player monster glyph mirrors their race - https://github.com/elunna/hackem/compare/109dcbcd538c...b30174f34ee1" 15:04 I had that in the patch originally and you had me take it out :) 15:05 the approach in the link is wrong, you can't modify mdata like that 15:05 the right way to do it (simpler too): https://termbin.com/filwu 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:10997 (1:19:04) 15:08 I added that to the etherpad but hackem should probably hear about that too, I guess he isn't here right now 15:08 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 15:11 (idk why that's written that way actually, with &mons[(mon)->mnum] instead of mon->mdata) 15:11 you could probably also change the &mons[(mon)->mnum] to (mon)->data 15:12 unless there was some reason that I did it the other way that I'm forgetting 15:13 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:60597 (22:40:27) 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:129224 (1 day, 18:00:26) 15:23 qt hi 15:23 sorry got busy 15:24 were you asking about examples of the weird bullwhip yanking your weapon feedback examples? 15:26 yeah 15:26 no rush :) 15:26 i dont have any more than what I put on etherpad 15:26 I didn't see them on the etherpad, I probably overlooked them 15:27 Do you know where they are on ther? 15:27 https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L569 15:28 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:129817 (1 day, 18:07:20) 15:32 i wanna work on more evilhack stuff but i'm so tired, i think il;l make more mistakes than normal 15:32 i'm not even sure if i should be driving hah 15:32 why are you so tired? 15:33 i barely got 3 hrs sleep last night 15:33 no idea why 15:33 just tossed and turned 15:33 bummer 15:33 that happens to me too sometimes 15:33 get some good sleep tonight 15:33 will try 15:33 it was because i was using you in my dream probably 15:33 ... 15:34 (you and your truck :-) 15:34 heh 15:35 qt the racial glyph thing, yeah i remember we decided not to have racial glyphs for player monsters and soldier types 15:35 imagine fort ludios showing all the proper racial glyphs 15:35 chaos 15:36 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 15:36 player monsters wouldnt be so bad 15:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:61102 (22:58:51) 15:40 oh wait I think I get it 15:41 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:41 I think that (the issue addressed by that PR) was the way the bug happened after all, it's just that it doesn't do it on its own -- it needs to churn through them exactly the right number so that at the _end_ of the function it's sitting on the obuf that contains "hands" 15:41 it doesn't overwrite it as it goes along 15:41 but it it's got exactly 11 items to get through then it will land on the "hands" one and it'll be overwritten by the normal inventory update 15:42 I was wondering because I realized the sortloot_cmp comparison could never overwrite "hands", only the normal inventory update. but I get it now I think :) 15:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:48 heh weird 15:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:61508 (23:11:07) 15:52 how important is it to have MC3 for ascension? currently at MC2 15:53 that's perfectly fine 15:54 can you put a barding on a woolly mammoth 15:56 oh yeah I was able to reproduce it (in vanilla, pre-patch) by getting exactly the right number of items 15:57 > The gnome king yanks the two-handed sword from your white gems! 15:57 Loggers yes 15:57 so it should be settled now after all, I hope 15:57 thanks terrapin 15:57 (oddly, anyone can do it, though other restricted steeds can only be barded by those who can ride them) 15:57 also why didn't you twoweapon sok and your tsurugi against vecna? was watching ur game 15:59 i wanted a quicker switch to paralysis if possible. i didn't want to chase vecna to the stairs. also, +6 damage from expert two-handed sword when tripled for vecna goes a fair ways towards making up for lack of an offhand. 15:59 still, might have been better to twoweapon, yeah 16:02 ah makes sense 16:02 ok, now i need to wait to see if i get tiamat or i should forge the armor of retribution 16:02 armor of retribution cuz that's cooler 16:03 i only have one forge, kinda almost want ithilmar more than retribution 16:03 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:03 but with just one forge it isn't an option :-/ 16:04 forge ithilmar and then forge aor in purgatory 16:04 just to make your dragon more likely to live to that point 16:04 ithilmar is a 2-step forging, only have one forge 16:04 ohhh duh 16:05 and would have to wish for grayswandir too 16:05 no sinks you can poly? 16:05 polyd them all already 16:05 only had 3 sinks in the game -- 2 thrones and 1 altar 16:06 and 3 forges i've used for ashmar and soa 16:06 that's quite unfortunate to only get three forges in the game 16:06 yeah 16:06 very light on both sinks and forges 16:06 on the other hand i have a level 49 black dragon that i tell everyone in this channel about every 3-4 hours because it is SO COOL 16:06 qt so we're good to go for evilhack with the yanking weapons feedback? 16:07 lol 16:07 yeah I think so K2 16:07 yay 16:07 thx 16:07 strong pets are just so fun man 16:07 there is one place that another obuf is used without being freed but I don't think it's a problem since it can only happen once per inventory 16:08 makeplural(bodypart(HAND)) is used for "(weapon in hands)" without being freed but that can't happen more than once so I don't see how it could wrap all the way around 16:08 I think it won't happen again (knock on wood) 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1682 points, T:2410, killed by a bolt of fire 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed the invisible Mephistopheles, on T:61853 (23:30:25) 16:10 ooh an oilskin cloak of drain resistance 16:10 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 16:10 that's the last time i try to bribe a demon lord 16:10 ooh nice krm26! 16:11 wow lucky 16:11 and convenient since my one wish this game i boofed and forgot to make the t-shirt of decay dragonhide 16:11 so now i can wish for a dragonhide t-shirt of esp instead 16:11 and not feel QUITE so dumb 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of esp", on T:48794 (15:27:04) 16:15 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:16 yeah like that 16:16 except greasier and fixed 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:48941 (15:32:58) 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful yellow dragon, on T:76908 (1 day, 14:36:51) 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) became Crom's Envoy of Balance, on T:130707 (1 day, 19:00:24) 16:24 bbl 16:24 byebye 16:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:62524 (23:54:38) 16:43 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 16:47 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:51 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed the invisible Tiamat, on T:63225 (1 day, 0:14:28) 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:132497 (1 day, 19:38:59) 17:02 is there nothing a +7 silver aklys of shock can't do 17:02 it can't mend my broken heart 17:03 or at least I assume not 17:03 maybe it can 17:03 come within 4 squares of me and i'll try it 17:08 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:13 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:16 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 17:20 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:21 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:30 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 17:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 17:48 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:05 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 18:10 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 18:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a club entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:13939 (1:46:00) 18:31 ew alhoon in the mines 18:31 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:32 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 18:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:14901 (1:52:58) 18:41 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 18:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide helm of speed named Gustavo: Kill People Who Disagree", on T:15885 (2:01:27) 18:46 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:46 !lastgame nightsorrow 18:46 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nightsorrow/evilhack/dumplog/1692170432.evil.html 18:47 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:63414 (1 day, 0:35:39) 18:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:16129 (2:06:41) 18:51 huh, statue of a woodchuck in oracle 18:51 maybe I'll stone to flesh it 18:59 terrapin: i like how your vlad's tower has '~', mine is all empty squares (air) 19:00 'SYMBOLS=S_air:~' 19:00 you can change that in rcfile 19:00 oh nice 19:02 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 19:06 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:12 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 19:12 heh 19:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:18466 (2:25:05) 19:16 lol remember when I died to yeenoghu on level seven surrounded by a million major demons wouldn't it be funny if that left bones 19:16 fuck 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:64550 (1 day, 1:05:11) 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:64560 (1 day, 1:05:28) 19:17 should probably just dig down but that locks off the top half of the map for effectively half the game 19:30 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 19:37 yasi: hitting a dragon's stomach wall shouldn't activate its passives cause it's not the scales 19:42 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:59 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:00 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:00 that would be legitimately interesting, i feel like---deciding between digestion damage and scale effects. 20:01 as i drain myself down to level 1, does hp drop? 20:08 yes? like, not permanently, but you lose roughly how many HP you gained 20:09 when you regain levels you'll likely have a different total but it could be either higher or lower 20:14 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:21 why would you drain yourself that low? 20:32 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 20:34 krm26: buy protection? 20:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:133235 (1 day, 20:23:22) 20:37 i mean, there is so much money, you can buy all your protection at level 20 with no problem if you want 20:37 what are you saving the money for? 20:38 i'm "maxed" at 8ac or 9ac 20:38 you can get 9ac with 100% chance 20:38 (that's all i ever bother with) 20:39 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:39 the expected amount of gold to buy protection points 10-20 is 58000 gold, so you can probably make do with draining to around level 3 with one priest, though more priests gives more leeway 20:42 i think fiddling with those protection levels is only something that a tortle or giant should spend any time thinking about -- even then, dunno about how worthwhile it is 20:45 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:49 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 20:49 dammit, balrog spawned with angelslayer and a cursed scroll of teleport 20:52 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54 free angelslayer, and free easter egg hunt! win win 20:55 better than "i had angelslayer and balrog had a whip and a cursed scroll of teleport" :-) 20:55 heh, true 20:56 just found him on the vibrating square level! he picked up and ESP amulet somewhere---not very good at hide-and-seek, apparently 20:56 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 20:56 \o/ 20:57 very glad for the half spell damage---acid blast has been kicking my ass 20:57 sigh, was really hoping for the hand 21:06 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:134212 (1 day, 20:57:01) 21:11 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had an axe entrusted to her by Set, on T:66135 (1 day, 2:13:01) 21:25 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:25 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 21:27 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 21:51 gnite all. zzZZzz 21:51 'night 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide boots of jumping", on T:67107 (1 day, 2:54:17) 22:51 can a non-dragonhide armor be turned into dragonhide after polymorph? 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:67491 (1 day, 3:33:08) 22:55 yes 22:55 it would be pretty unlikely though 23:00 alright not bothering with armor 23:00 only my cloak isn't dragonhide 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Cen Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:107148 (1 day, 21:22:59) 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:67996 (1 day, 3:46:40) 23:10 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:68029 (1 day, 3:48:21) 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:68081 (1 day, 3:51:08) 23:21 terrapin: wow you have a lot of HP! 23:23 ugh damn, during polypile a lot of wands in open inventory, fast travel and a shocking sphere destroyed bunch of wands 23:23 darn :( 23:24 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed the elven high priestess of Moloch, on T:68318 (1 day, 4:02:44) 23:25 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:68336 (1 day, 4:04:05) 23:33 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 23:33 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:68461 (1 day, 4:12:02) 23:34 is drum of earthquake any useful? polypile it? 23:35 i find it's pretty nice to have. the pits can be a real obstacle for some monsters 23:36 used in ascension run? 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:68491 (1 day, 4:14:38) 23:38 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:47 terrapin: so i look at what you're wearing, where's the reflection source? 23:47 i don't have one, unless i swap amulets 23:48 it's mostly for inventory protection at this point, and i don't have much vulnerable stuff in open inventory 23:48 oh wow, ballsy