00:15 about to do Vlad 00:15 any tips? 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:76161 (2 days, 0:09:07) 00:35 Can a demon pet wield wand of orcus? 00:41 If you've nurse danced and then you polymorph into a different form, will you regain your nurse-danced HP when returning to original form? 00:44 I don't think there is any difference in how you gain the HP. Only problem will be if you cannot successfully polymorph and just change into your own species. 00:44 Then some changes might occur. If you successfully polymorph, you go back to how you were HP and all. 00:57 Also, tips for dealing with rogue player monsters? 01:01 !whereis alivernine 01:01 k3ut0i: alivernine is not playing. 01:01 I'm playing on a precompiled binary. 01:02 I bring this up because I lost one of my previous characters to a rogue stealing vorpal blade and decapitating my tourist. 01:02 During ascension run avoid them. use teleportation wands if necessary. 01:02 Fight ranged, spells. 01:03 If loot is not necessary use cancellation. 01:03 it might get their AC low enough. 01:06 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:76876 (2 days, 0:42:29) 01:07 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:76880 (2 days, 0:42:44) 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:77316 (2 days, 0:56:02) 01:21 alivernine: oh wat, i gotta watch out for that. i lucked out meleeing a rogue NPC just today with SoA/Vorpal 01:22 k3ut0i: anything special to worry about Vlad? if one has drain resis it should be ok? 01:23 Yeah. 01:23 Don't get surrounded. There will be vampire mages around that will summon nasty. 01:23 Shambling Horror too. 01:24 oh that's bad news...my Shambling Horror charms and steals 01:24 so how don't you get surrounded 01:24 Vlad can cast spells too. 01:25 My shambling horror confuses. I once had a run where it ate brains. That was fun. 01:25 Kill every one else first. If there are a lot of them get into one of the treasure rooms. 01:27 does paralysis work? recommended? 01:33 I think so. I just keep bash him. Try it out. 01:33 Try paralysis too. 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:103494 (1 day, 18:39:23) 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:103495 (1 day, 18:39:31) 01:48 yay 01:48 got 20 hp drained though 01:50 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed Graz'zt, on T:77799 (2 days, 1:26:05) 01:53 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class c, on T:77861 (2 days, 1:29:13) 01:58 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:04 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 491 points, T:1082, poisoned by a rock gnome 03:32 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class D, on T:78061 (2 days, 2:55:31) 03:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 826 points, T:1151, killed by a piranha 03:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1719 (0:15:05) 03:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2167 points, T:2511, killed by a rabid rat 04:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1354 (0:17:31) 04:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1604 points, T:1443, killed by dipping into a forge 04:09 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed Lolth, on T:78410 (2 days, 3:32:32) 04:26 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:78722 (2 days, 3:49:11) 04:26 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:78724 (2 days, 3:49:26) 04:28 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:78888 (2 days, 3:51:56) 04:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed the human high priest of Moloch, on T:79074 (2 days, 4:03:50) 04:42 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:79131 (2 days, 4:05:17) 04:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed Lucifer, on T:79191 (2 days, 4:11:13) 04:49 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) entered Purgatory, on T:79208 (2 days, 4:12:16) 05:01 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:01 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 05:13 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed Saint Michael, on T:79470 (2 days, 4:36:08) 05:17 woohoo go go k3ut0i 05:26 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:79985 (2 days, 4:49:57) 05:35 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:80490 (2 days, 4:58:25) 05:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class D, on T:80532 (2 days, 5:03:43) 05:41 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class D, on T:80534 (2 days, 5:04:51) 05:53 that priest really hates dragons 05:56 I have a monk-specific strat for dragons, no idea how other races deal with them. 05:56 Dragons are insane. 05:59 They're not unbeatable in the slightest but you absolutely don't take them for granted 05:59 alivernine: never melee player monsters with any weapon other than SoA unless you have probed them and verified that they do not have black dragon scaled mail 06:03 Oh wow, that's new. 06:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:80865 (2 days, 5:27:27) 06:09 Hmm. Downloading Baldur's Gate is not good for one's internet connection. 06:09 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:80918 (2 days, 5:32:48) 06:11 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 447 points, T:504, killed by a dwarf queen 06:12 It's 100 GB man, gotta see that coming 06:12 125 GB, yeah, it's insane. 06:16 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:81010 (2 days, 5:39:41) 06:16 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:81012 (2 days, 5:40:00) 06:18 \o/ 06:19 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Dwa Fem Law), 7531808 points, T:81042, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k3ut0i/evilhack/dumplog/1691608093.evil.html 06:19 gg 06:19 congrats  k3ut0i! 06:19 Thank You. 06:19 Congrats! 06:21 Thank You. 06:21 way to go! 06:21 It is exhausting to fight without good weapons. 06:21 hammer of the gods is a great weapon! 06:22 +7 Hammer of the gods, and mjollnir in the alternate weapon slot! 06:22 It is good. Good for vecna and lucifer but the I just kept avoiding the other hordes. 06:24 Outrun them, dodging them with teleport or dig around them. 06:27 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 06:29 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:771 (0:18:23) 06:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1020 (0:32:11) 06:45 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gnomish wizards), on T:1038 (0:33:20) 07:27 Interesting, "You hear a figurine being activated", and the result is a *pet* gargoyle? 07:27 Like, my pet. 07:27 yeah, weird isn't it 07:29 Very. 07:34 odds for monster activation are same as a cursed figurine iirc? 07:48 I think so, yes 07:48 so not weird, just a monster getting very unlucky 07:49 will monsters activate non-blessed figurines? 07:49 I'm not even sure the BUC status for monsters 07:49 matters 07:50 it must or there would always be a balrog in the orc temple 07:50 well they can't get at it because of the squeaky boards 07:53 ah i forgot the terror of squeaks 07:53 lol 07:54 otmp->blessed = 0, otmp->cursed = 1; 07:55 Noisytoot the figurine gets explicitly cursed before a monster applies it 07:57 they will create Dagul btw if they manage to breach the terror of squeaks. I've seen it happen in other people's games. 08:09 !tell k3ut0i congrats on the ascension! 08:09 K2: Message from terrapin at 2023-08-14 23:22 EDT: extra_pref toggles worn rings' extrinsics to pretend they've been taken off, but it doesn't change owornmask, so mon_prop() acts like the rings are still worn 08:09 I'm on it, K2. 08:09 ugh 08:17 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:21 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 08:27 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:38 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 08:39 -!- alivernine has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:40 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 08:51 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:57 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 09:11 -!- alivernine has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:27 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:31 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 09:37 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had a pair of low boots entrusted to her by Kos, on T:8682 (1:10:48) 10:00 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:8970 (1:17:52) 10:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:02 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 10:10 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:13 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 10:18 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:19 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 10:24 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:35 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 10:35 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish dagger entrusted to her by Kos, on T:11110 (1:57:33) 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish cloak entrusted to her by Kos, on T:12246 (2:02:44) 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Kos, on T:15174 (2:10:58) 10:56 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:58 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish long sword entrusted to her by Kos, on T:17530 (2:15:58) 11:03 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 11:06 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had an orcish spear entrusted to her by Kos, on T:20312 (2:23:19) 11:08 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:09 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:20549 (2:26:59) 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:104814 (1 day, 6:36:49) 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:20608 (2:52:22) 11:38 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 11:42 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:48 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 11:57 heya k3ut0i 12:01 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had a pair of high boots entrusted to her by Kos, on T:23041 (3:18:50) 12:06 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:24893 (3:23:18) 12:06 hey 12:06 Hello k3ut0i, Welcome to #evilhack 12:06 k3ut0i: Message from K2 at 2023-08-15 08:09 EDT: congrats on the ascension! 12:06 Thank you. 12:06 :) 12:10 :P 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:27012 (3:33:09) 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:28464 (3:50:00) 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) genocided gelatinous cubes, on T:47641 (6:03:02) 12:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of protection entrusted to her by Crom, on T:108519 (1 day, 8:11:54) 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) had a pair of bone kicking boots entrusted to her by Set, on T:51412 (18:07:05) 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2875 points, T:3903, killed by an orc zombie 13:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:20 damn getting secespita has turned off my artifact luck entirely 13:21 supposed to work the other way 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:52998 (18:35:29) 13:25 maybe you'll break your 139,541 record :-) 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Bar Gia Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:53020 (18:36:26) 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Idolatress, on T:30220 (4:17:17) 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:110590 (1 day, 9:00:26) 13:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:58 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:30909 (4:35:03) 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:111118 (1 day, 9:18:14) 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1215 points, T:2070, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1065 (0:07:30) 14:14 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:17 um what why do i have a 23 dex 14:19 k2, has taken me a long time to notice, but i think i got permanent +5 dex when my gloves of dex were disintegrated after bashing my pet black dragon with a potion of restore ability 14:19 human with 23 naked dex 14:20 now i want to disintegrate some guantlets of power 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:48391 (6:08:32) 14:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a gold dagger entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:49369 (6:13:38) 14:27 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:27 does getting "mundane" items from sacrifice make it less likely to get gifted an artifact too? 14:28 i think it does in 0.8.2, yeah 14:28 really? 14:28 that's new to me 14:28 lame 14:29 nope i lied 14:29 it was changed in one of the rerereleases 14:29 failing to get a wished-for artifact lowers your chances 14:30 hooray for the 45th rerelease of evilhack 0.8.2! 14:30 :P 14:31 next version will have druid, right? 14:31 that should be cool 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:51449 (6:25:03) 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 489214 points, T:51829, killed by Yeenoghu, while paralyzed by a monster 14:41 oops 14:43 you were not supposed to be summoned yeenoghu 14:44 ouch 14:46 313 HP down to 0 from one para :( 14:47 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:48 from a stun you mean? or were you doing gehennom without free action like a madman? 15:01 krm26 thanks, added info to bug tracker 15:01 loggers :( 15:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:33774 (5:41:41) 15:06 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:07 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:113450 (1 day, 10:26:13) 15:11 i wonder if i can get permanent protection from bashing my pet too 15:20 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 15:21 Hmm just realized my shirt went from +4 to +0. Can destroy armor spell do that, or is it a disenchanter 15:22 probably cancellation. 15:23 i see 15:25 yeah cancellation is fairly common 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had a battle-axe entrusted to her by Crom, on T:113977 (1 day, 10:50:43) 15:35 no gray dragon scale yet :( 15:36 got amulets of flying, life saving, magical breathing, what do you guys recommend for a first timer? rocking magical breathing so far in case sea dragons 15:37 life saving, or flying if near open air 15:37 suffocation takes several turns and isn't a real threat unless you don't have free action and get swallowed by a gelatinous cube 15:38 flying can sub with ring of levi? 15:40 yeah. i'd usually go for flying over life saving for the convenience and because i'm lazy, but if you're facing gehennom for the first time it might be good to stick with life saving in case you encounter an unexpected threat 15:43 flying is much better than ring of levitation, much much better 15:43 cant be randomly destroyed and lets you interact with the floor 15:43 just carry magical breathing and swap it in if you are engulfed 15:44 life saving is usually garbage after lucky early game use 15:44 flying all the way 15:44 when i have the other major bases covered i find flying/free action/slow digestion most convenient 15:44 and will swap slow digestion for protection from lycanthropes in certain situations 15:45 (if you don't have warning than free action/warning of course) 15:45 'protection from lycanthropes'? you mean shapechanger? 15:45 is it shapechangers? sure 15:46 wearing rings under Dragonbane should protect them from being destroyed? 15:46 like for the solid were room in vlads 15:54 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:114490 (1 day, 11:24:37) 16:11 generally i'm happy with my level 49 black dragon pet, but she does seem insistent on disintegrating everything i want to sacrifice 16:11 disintegrators gonna disintegrate 16:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:115013 (1 day, 11:34:22) 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1851 (0:06:58) 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (black dragons), on T:1914 (0:07:17) 16:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:3032 (0:12:10) 16:45 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:17 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 17:18 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:23 man i really wish secespita gave its sacrifice bonus just for being in open inventory (maybe with the additional proviso that it and your weapon is not cursed to handwave a 0-turn switch) 17:23 such a pita to use it 17:27 or you are weldproof 17:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2729 points, T:2707, killed by a giant mosquito, while unconscious from rotten food 18:02 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 18:06 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3040 (0:29:19) 19:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5350 (1:15:19) 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6083 (1:27:33) 19:19 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 19:24 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:30 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 19:38 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:59 How do you deal with cancellation? Do you just have to reenchant everything? 20:00 now i want to disintegrate some guantlets of power 20:00 I'm not sure if that'll work because they set strength to 25 instead of adding enchantment 20:07 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 20:18 only one way to find out! i'm curious if protection will work too 20:19 i'm just lucky i was using +5 dex gauntlets when i did it 20:19 ... i'm afraid to put on another pair of dex gauntlets to see if it would add more or just keep it the same and then remove it when i took them off 20:19 i guess i could look at the code first 20:23 I would wiztest first 20:26 It seems like NetHack 3.4.3 bug C343-30 (cursed scroll of destroy armor on a cursed helm of brilliance could permanently increase stats), but with disintegration instead (glove/helm disintegration doesn't exist in vanilla). The exact 3.4.3 bug is also still present in dNetHack. 20:27 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/c25746f0bfbea12b288bb44ca893c570474bf635 20:27 [EvilHack] Xdminsy starred EvilHack - https://github.com/Xdminsy 20:29 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:46 k2: feedback bug swinging a stack of potions at a black dragon. "The potion called restore evaporates. The black dragon snarls! Your potions called restore disintegrates!" Number disagreement in final element 20:48 Noisytoot, gauntlets of power not persistent on disintegration 21:59 krm26, when you forcefight a stack of potions against a monster, i get it it's just the one that breaks 21:59 but if the passive disintegration kicked in, it would target the entire stack 22:00 (whatever it is you're holding) 22:00 brb 22:00 -!- guest724 has joined #evilhack 22:17 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 22:36 i think the issue was that the feedback was "potions...disintegrates" not "potions...disintegrate" 22:38 I defeated Kathryn for the first time. How do I open up the chamber with pegasus? 22:42 NVM, I'm obtuse. 22:42 oh 22:52 qt, pat accepted your PR 22:52 doesnt look like he changed it 23:52 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack