00:10 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:19 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 00:29 congrats on your asc k3ut0i! 00:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2795 (0:11:53) 00:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 3006 points, T:2819, choked on the Goblin King's corpse 00:31 I need to stop listening to the little devil on my shoulder 00:33 Oh k3ut0i ascended? congrats 00:34 Umbire: Loggers_VIII: Thank you. 00:34 My first in quite a while. 00:37 you hadn't been playing evil for too long, right? pretty impressive 00:37 Hmm, I seem to have jumbled my thoughts. My first in evilhack and any ascension in quite a while. 00:37 Loggers_VIII: Got really lucky with bones and RNG. I have used lance throught the end game and not one player monster had black-scaled armor on. 00:38 Got grayswandir, dragonbane, mjollnir, sunsword + lot of loot in one of my bone files. 00:38 I also got super lucky bones in my first evil win 00:39 one of the benefits of playing on hdf 00:40 !who 00:40 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] Loggers [evil] k3ut0i [evil] eggandhull [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 00:40 !whereis k3ut0i 00:40 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] k3ut0i [evil]: (Rog Dro Fem Cha) T:14479 Sokoban level: 4 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1767 (0:10:09) 00:42 goblin king had marker \o/ 00:42 nice. 00:43 Neat 00:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2172 (0:12:42) 00:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:3010 (0:16:00) 00:48 Sac fodder? 00:48 Or forgetting Glamdring only unlocks long sword for wiz 00:48 I just thought fighting some elves would be fun 00:48 I can sell the loot I guess but that's pretty much it 00:48 Fair 00:58 -!- Noisytoot is now known as Guest8310 00:58 -!- Guest8310 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 00:58 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 01:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:08 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a copper amulet of reflection, on T:15616 (3:23:45) 01:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 01:11 I can identify the loot in other locked rooms in sokoban. Should this be possible? 01:11 what do you mean? 01:11 before picking them up, it just shows sokoban tool etc... 01:12 yeah, that's normal 01:12 after picking amulet, I can see that one has etched helmet. 01:12 So that must be helm of speed... 01:12 hmm, strange 01:13 I think the prizes are meant to disappear when you pick another one up 01:15 probably should tell k2 about this in the morning 01:15 The naming only works with etched helmet. When I try to name the bag it tells me I do not know enough about the bag to name it. 01:16 lemme peek at your game real quick 01:16 were you ever adjacent to the helmet? 01:16 No I used potion. 01:17 I think helmet types are always known even if you haven't been close to them, but just checking 01:17 that's interesting... I've never seen that happen in my games 01:17 I'll have to test that out as well when I get to soko 01:19 anyway, the people who would actually know if this is a problem/how to do something about it are all asleep so that's that for now I guess 01:20 !lastgame nightsorrow 01:20 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Nightsorrow/evilhack/dumplog/1691382492.evil.html 01:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 6374 points, T:6039, killed by a Green-elf 01:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 01:25 arghhh I always get cocky in these runs 01:26 not a conducive attitude at all to tortle healer 01:36 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:44 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:52 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 02:12 -!- botifico-16655b7 has quit [*.net *.split] 02:20 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:22 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 02:22 Talk to whom? (in what direction) The elven priestess of Odin doesn't want anything to do with you! 02:22 "Talk? Here is what I have to say!" 02:22 what's happening there? not sure why i angered the minetown priest.... 02:23 is 121hp -19AC good enough to kill him? 02:24 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:24 Were they outside the temple when you talked to them? 02:24 nope 02:24 Did you talk to her while she was scared? 02:25 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:17049 (4:40:09) 02:25 Was the altar converted? 02:25 no to either 02:25 oh yeah it's coaligned priest..killing is probably a bad idea 02:25 You're not likely to have a choice in the matter unless you get out of there and come back with some means of taming 02:26 Chatting to them while they're immobile also makes them hostile 02:27 hmm... 02:31 How do I deal with rat-king mines end? Is teleport control only possible way? 02:32 You can just teleport randomly and hope you land in the right spots 02:32 There's tele traps in there for that purpose 02:32 Control makes it a ton easier ofc 02:34 How do I get out after I get in? 02:34 I concerned about that/ 02:34 I am. 02:35 There's tele traps in there for that purpose 02:35 it's how you get in and out :B 02:38 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 02:38 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17424 (4:53:39) 02:41 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 02:44 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 02:45 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:17943 (5:00:30) 02:51 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:56 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 02:57 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:12 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:13 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a steel scale mail entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:20243 (5:32:55) 03:23 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 03:23 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 03:29 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 04:01 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:08 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 04:18 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:28 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 04:31 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:24879 (6:47:05) 04:41 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:06 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 05:11 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:17 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a broadsword entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:89531 (1 day, 9:49:53) 05:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Tormuse (Cav Gia Mal Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:24425 (18:59:18) 05:33 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:34 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:90382 (1 day, 10:07:09) 05:34 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided mind flayers, on T:90382 (1 day, 10:07:16) 05:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] SelmaBouvier (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 13778 points, T:9718, zombified by a gnoll witherling 05:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:52 -!- Graznop has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:59 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 05:59 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed the ring of P'hul", on T:28183 (8:14:44) 06:03 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:21 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:43 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 06:47 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:26 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:30902 (9:41:11) 07:39 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 07:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Tormuse (Cav Gia Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed magic mirror of Merlin", on T:24442 (20:04:26) 07:47 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 07:48 k3ut0i - after you pick up the one soko prize, the soko prize flag goes away for the other 2 objects. that's why you're then able to discern what they are. i think its ok, but i can see why it would be seen as a bug 07:49 its kind of a way to see 'oh this is what I could have had if i had chosen that door' 07:51 K2: That would seem like a feature for 'EVIL'hack. Give everyone buyers remorse. :) 07:51 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:52 hah 07:53 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1156 points, T:1557, killed by a Woodland-elf 08:15 these prisoners arent supposed to be that strong 08:17 eh? 08:22 NetSysFire i have 3 cans of grease in my current game. and i use it 08:22 greassssssssse 08:27 GREASE 08:27 grease elementals when 08:27 or apply can of grease to fire elemental to make it explode 08:27 heh 08:42 as usual, qt comes to the rescue with particularly mysterious bugs: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/e43ec0cef1cc7c4e639c7de7e1d9ff26c6c8c629 08:45 oh my 08:47 link added to teh tracker! 08:47 \o/ 08:47 that's a bit involved 09:15 well, on one hand, a rock mole just 8 all my good spears. on the other, it death dropped a third magic lamp 09:15 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 09:15 *ate (there happened to be eight of them, hence my confusion) 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:12625 (2:56:47) 09:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:20 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:31 heh 09:31 GOLD 09:31 genocide leprechauns in 3 2 1... 09:40 ooh nice fix by qt 09:42 yeah gold "mr for tortles is not acceptable. just wait for the gold-stealing shamblers 09:43 speaking of which, i got the lamest shamblers of all time this game: 4d8 bite teleport, that's it 09:44 pfft 09:44 you all see this? https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/15h6w6x/hackem_how_are_you_meant_to_deal_with_zombies/ 09:44 spilled over into evilhack 09:46 i had 3d4 wither shamblers last game 09:46 let's hope the luck continues 09:48 zombies can certainly get your goat sometimes :-) that period of frustration will be completely forgotten the first time a -43 ac player rogue takes his sword of annihilation 09:49 re: shamblers i was actually gonna suggest breaking the abilities up into two tiers, to ensure that they have at least one really nasty thing 09:49 I didn't even think of dipping zombies in forges. I just chuck them downstairs if I am spending time on a single level. 09:49 and so there would be no more 1-ability shamblers 09:50 tinning zombies is the easiest method if you have a tinning kit 09:50 krm26 i think shambers are fine as it. its funny when you get a harmless one 09:50 you can also throw em in any locking container 09:50 k2: obligatory every-month suggestion, each time you kill a horror, add one new ability 09:50 throwing zombie corpses down the stairs, hah that's a good one 09:51 i'm gonna wear you down 09:51 never 09:51 remindme: 2033 09:51 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ 09:51 ^ krm26 09:52 why would you try to rickroll someone on their birthday :-( 09:52 you have angered the gods 09:52 never gonna give you up / never gonna let you down 09:52 its your bday? \o/ 09:52 happy birthday! 09:52 fifty FOUR :-P 09:53 krm26: Happy birthday~ 09:53 errmahgerd 09:53 happy birthday! 09:53 woke up, went into the attic to fix a problem with an ac duct, over to the parents to pull their cabin fan and get leaves out of it that were annoying them, out to their well to fix some crap, back home where the girls have destroyed the kitchen trying to cook me something so a half hour of doing dishes...then i escape to get rickrolled 09:54 now sobbing softly into my unthreatening shambling horror 09:54 lol 09:54 and its not even 10am 09:54 ugh i know. itchy from insulation 09:55 your evilhack bad luck has escaped into reality 09:55 heh, if i had evilhack-luck irl i would be dead 100 times over 09:56 Ardub has ascended Hack'EM twice btw K2 09:56 perhaps evilhack is your bad luck magnet. allowing you to have a decent IRL experience 09:56 mobileuser yeah 09:56 although i have been bitten by a lot of random wildlife in my time. sea lion, wombat, possum, horse, dog, cat, flying fox, wallaby... 09:56 which makes his comment even more baffling 09:57 maybe hackem is easier mid/late game 09:57 it definitely is now in 1.2.0 09:57 krm26 i have so many questions! 09:57 it almost has to be, normally adding more crap makes things easier 09:57 like, what even is a wallaby? 09:57 like a cute tiny kangaroo 09:57 K2 1.2.0 so far feels more difficult to me 09:57 some of them live in trees 09:58 a LOT of evilhack stuff was removed in 1.2.0 09:58 (a good chunk of my bites happened in oz) 09:58 nasty monsters seem to spawn earlier, but I could be paranoid 09:58 wild 09:58 terrapin, krm26 was once turned into a newt. he got better though 09:59 :D 09:59 i gotta force my daughter to watch that 09:59 on the torture list 10:03 monty python for the win 10:06 yesssss birthday shadow dragon pet for my drow 10:06 wee 10:07 what is the advanced spell targeting range? 8? 10:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:61467 (16:38:17) 10:09 10 i think 10:13 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:33565 (12:27:23) 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Fem Law), 29417 points, T:13460, poisoned by an orcish arrow 10:14 of ffs 10:14 34% poison resistance! 10:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:61679 (16:45:02) 10:16 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 10:16 :/ 10:20 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:24 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 10:29 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:36 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:34995 (12:50:11) 10:37 nice 10:37 W A N T 10:39 mobileuser: it was 100% Pat who came up with that clever fix for the obuf thing, I had suggested something myopic that would have fixed that specific message because I wasn't sure how to handle the root problem 10:40 just to avoid any stolen valor :) 10:40 heh 10:40 nice one Pat! :-) 10:43 k2: kinda think castle wand should always be 0:1 10:43 that is more than sufficient 10:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 244 points, T:1333, killed by a sling bullet 10:46 hmm, i think dark elven tunics have definitely replaced crystal plate mail as the armor of choice 10:52 k2, it is a known thing where you get messages about dragon pets futily trying to engulf non-adjacent ghosts? 10:55 what do you mean 10:58 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 11:01 take a dragon pet into any ghost-rich environment -- this happens when i descend from the castle with a dragon pet. the dragon will attempt to engulf non-adjacent ghosts. when nothing is next to the dragon you'll get failed engulf messages 11:01 it is harmless but strange 11:09 sounds like it doesnt quite know where the ghost is 11:10 also, they shouldnt be able to engulf a ghost anyways (noncorporeal) 11:11 oh hey, i see a player monster. i may actually acquire gloves! 11:13 \o/ 11:18 does shield of mobilitiy protect against dragon's 4d25 breath sleep ? 11:23 as it grants free action, it should afford the same sleep protections as wearing a ring of free action would give 11:26 wooo boy - dwarven knight called Kherebyrn the Knight, riding a saddled warhorse, wearing 11:26 full heavy armor 11:27 thx 11:27 another Q: does shimmering dragon scales suffer from fire damage? 11:28 no. dragon scales are inherently fixed 11:29 kk 11:35 oooh aphrodite level. good place to take a break 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:22602 (8:10:45) 11:43 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Cen Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:22628 (8:12:20) 11:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:13 wizard experts, for single-target damage, does advanced fireball tend to outstrip bounced standard fireball? or is bouncing the way to go? 12:14 that would depend on the number of blasts generated from adv 12:14 right, that's why i used "tend" :-) 12:14 i don't have a good feel for the median spread 12:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:63595 (18:10:42) 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3888 points, T:3179, poisoned by an orcish arrow 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:38885 (14:44:40) 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38886 (14:44:49) 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) refused to give up The Master Key of Thievery to the Master of Thieves, on T:39079 (14:51:03) 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Neferet the Green, on T:64720 (18:31:35) 12:42 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:32783 (9:27:57) 12:47 zappy zap wand of cancellation - easy aphrodite 12:54 nymphs should be able to run and bathe in a fountain to uncancel/restore themselves 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:40481 (15:12:48) 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a spear entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:92284 (1 day, 10:59:43) 13:00 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:20 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 13:21 Hello all - I'm in a branch due to a magic portal a level or 2 down in Gehemmon.  Can someone tell me a bit about what/where this is, perhaps? 13:22 The message is "You enter a desolate landscape, completely devoid of life.  Every fiber tells you to leave this evil place, now." 13:22 vecna! 13:22 big central are surrounded by dead trees, portal in middle? 13:23 vecna is three levels -- massive graveyard full of boxes, then kas's level with 4 arch-liches, then vecna's level with some alhoons 13:23 killing vecna lets you genocide liches and alhoons and gives you either his eye or hand 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:34903 (10:09:30) 13:23 the branch is technically optional but way too good to ever pass up 13:24 \o/ 13:24 i finally have reflection now 13:24 Yes then - perhaps that's it 13:24 Never faced Vecna yet. 13:24 yay! finaly got mine from kathryn's dragons 13:24 what is your role dbanethacker? 13:24 I'm a Valk 13:25 you can use kas's 2h sword if you want, which does lots of extra damage to vecna 13:25 Xp level 17, -34 AC (-40+ if I go 1 weapon with a shield 13:25 +7 Mojo and +7 Snickersnee 13:25 you MUST be blindfolded for vecna, and pack some full healing in case his withering gets to be too much 13:25 Dragonbane 13:26 hmmm, need to uncurse my blindfold and figure out for some full healing then. 13:26 172 hit points 13:26 he is also a serious summoner so you might want an emergency scroll of earth if you get in trouble 13:26 but you'll get a LOT of loot from the first level pre-vecna 13:26 so don't sweat it until through the first two levels 13:26 2 potios of full healing on me - a few extra healing but no gain energy 13:27 kas is a bit like vlad so if you aren't drain-proof take appropriate measures 13:27 2 scrolls of earth on me 13:27 T-shirt of decay so I'm drain proof 13:27 you will probably find a bunch of potions in the first two vecna levels, i normally go refit for vecna after clearing to him 13:27 vecna will meditate through pretty much anything until you walk up to him and hit him, so you can clear the third level as well 13:28 gjallar is the exception, and is what i use as a valk -- it will wake him and you can take him on the stairs up 13:28 i recommend using gjallar right away on the 2nd level, kas, as well to grab the 4 arch-liches 13:28 gjallar is the best 13:28 noooooooooooo 13:28 Things that are here: 13:28 an uncursed large cave lizard corpse named Steve 13:28 I have Gjallar on me 13:28 no, not steve! 13:29 i raised him from a wee newt 13:29 i love not having to clear the wizard's tower as a valk 13:29 you are a priest, just unstone him 13:29 he's not stoned 13:29 damn i read that wrong 13:29 so turn him! 13:30 i had a wand handy 13:30 steve is back 13:30 he deserves snacks for that 13:32 there's an anthole on this level too, tons of food 13:33 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:35194 (10:18:48) 13:33 .... oooh 13:33 and i have ogresmasher from earlier 13:33 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:34 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 13:35 I missed any advice for Vecna after krm26 said "he deserves snacks for that"\ 13:35 I don't think you missed anything relevant 13:35 you're good dbanethacker 13:35 steve really diverted the conversation 13:35 (as he should) 13:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2774 (0:10:11) 13:36 dbanethacker: you can see here what you missed https://www.hardfought.org/irclog.evil/%23evilhack-2023-08-08.log 13:36 but it's just about K2's adventures I think 13:36 Oh, thanks for that - I didn't know you could do that. 13:37 yeah this channel and #hardfought have publicly available logs 13:37 other than what's been said, i'd recommend using a cursed invis potion on level 3 to pull the purple Ls and alhoons, and then use gjallar after to bring vecna to the upstairs 13:37 oh and #tnnt does too 13:38 Thanks for all the advice - time to get busy with prepping for Vecna ! 13:38 that way you don't get them mobbing you all at once 13:38 i wrote a little shell script a while ago to pull specific recent logs easily, so you can get e.g. "yesterday's logs for #evilhack" etc quickly without scrolling through pages in a browser, that's what I usually use to get at them 13:38 https://gitlab.com/entrez/hdf-log/ 13:38 oh neat 13:39 in case that would be useful for you too 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3272 (0:13:13) 13:43 hmm the only hammer i have is ogresmasher 13:43 i will need to forge one 13:46 yeah qt's advice is good, i do the same thing with gjallar on vecna's level -- cursed invis junk, clear the stairs area, then gjallar vecna 13:47 as usual I give great advice while terrapin rambles about irc logs 13:47 dammit was it terrapin :-) 13:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:42204 (16:02:11) 13:48 i'm one year more senile today in my defense 13:48 oh, is it your birthday? happy birthday! 13:49 lolth says i am inadequate now 13:49 ageist! 14:00 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven short sword entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:42940 (16:14:24) 14:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 6266 points, T:5974, killed by a tiger 14:05 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a mithril scimitar entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:43432 (16:19:53) 14:16 doh 14:16 shaman confused my shadow dragon who then swallowed my pegasus 14:19 You place the shield of reflection, then the barding inside the forge. Raising your war hammer, you begin to forge the objects together... You have successfully forged some blessed polished barding. 14:19 \o/ 14:19 Steve has barding! 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:37371 (11:06:07) 14:21 sweet! too bad about the casting :-P 14:21 justice for priest shields! 14:22 heh 14:22 i haz teh robes 14:22 the fact that there is artifact BARDING but not a shield for MY PRIESTS is just abhorrent 14:22 if i can find the brands i'll make the AoR 14:23 i want to be able to forge a pegasus, ashmar, and the magic eight ball into a shield for my priests 14:23 i think the pegasus would mind 14:23 they just cant wait to die 14:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven spear entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:46367 (16:47:05) 14:35 Is angelslayer fire different from normal fire damage? 14:35 yes 14:36 it is infernal fire, fire resistance won't save the monsters you stab with it 14:36 it works against everything 14:36 ... oh 14:36 hmm 14:36 even demons? 14:36 angelslayer is a great weapon. half spell damage! 14:36 ... 14:36 mayyyybe? 14:36 yeah 14:36 heh 14:36 shhhh terrapin 14:36 but not enemies in water 14:36 that should probably be tweaked a bit 14:36 god dammit 14:37 :P 14:37 you are why we cant have nice things 14:37 no, YOu are 14:37 :'( 14:37 yeah well 14:37 no wait 14:37 lets blame the rng 14:37 my daughter is mad at me because i turned her favorite song into a song about pangolins and ruined it 14:37 oh no 14:37 dont mess with kids music 14:38 how could pangolins ruin anything? 14:38 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:38 btw my kiddo has become a 'swiftie' 14:38 but honestly the chorus sounded exactly like melanie martinez, whoever that is, was chanting "pangolin, pan pangolin" 14:38 mine too! it is all the rage 14:38 luckily her music is pretty innocuous 14:38 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2641/source 14:39 she likes listening to my 80's hard rock too, so 14:39 cant complain 14:39 !! my girls are playing "soft 70s rock" in the house for my birthday 14:39 cuz im an oldz 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:46601 (16:53:43) 14:39 errmahgerd i have -48 ac and i havent even enchanted ashmar or dragonbane yet 14:40 krm26, I am old and I love the "new" trend of synthwave :D 14:40 Hmmm, how to tame a baby shadow dragon..... 14:40 hugs 14:41 how to tame your dragon 14:41 krm26, also happy birthday! 14:41 a scroll of taming didn't work 14:41 :) 14:41 my kitty is now a level 33 shadow dragon with 264 hp 14:41 dbanethacker they have a level of resistance 14:41 oh i guess that movie is called "how to train your dragon", not "tame" 14:41 also, are you wearing dragonbane? 14:41 poly traps are the official way of getting shadow dragon pets :-) 14:41 krm26 happy birthday ! 14:41 Yes 14:41 that's why 14:41 Alas 14:41 thx all. stupider every year! 14:41 wielding/wearing a 'bane will always make that type of monster hostile 14:42 oh yeah, dragonbane must come off before using poly traps 14:42 krm26: I want to hear the pangolin song, what is it called? 14:42 i only forget to do that 11 out of 12 times 14:42 how to train your dragon was a fun movie 14:42 the song is by melanie martinez, tag you're it -- not a bad song actually, i can tolerate it 14:42 good lord dragonbane and ashmar both +5 14:42 here are my replacement lyrics -- 14:42 i could pass -60 ac with a bit more protection from priest 14:43 i still gon die 14:43 hmm maybe nobody wants me spamming that to this channel now that i think about it :-) 14:43 put it on termbin 14:44 lol ok I can hear where the "pan golin, pan, pangolin" fits in 14:44 hell yeah steve's barding of reflection is now +3 14:44 ^ thanks again qt for making that a thing 14:45 what did I do? 14:45 oh that you can charge barding? 14:45 i mean enchant it 14:45 remember when you did the patch to make barding enchantable? 14:45 yeah I do remember that now 14:45 <3 14:45 https://termbin.com/gfpf 14:45 Status of the saddled barded Steve (male, neutral): Level 16 HP 128(128) AC -6, tame, fast, carrying you. 14:46 and he's sleep/poison/cold/fire res 14:46 haha krm26 great lyrics 14:46 she has accused me of turning her favorite song into a "learning opportunity" 14:46 yup... i can see why she hates you now 14:46 lol 14:46 this is awesome 14:47 i may get the vets to record it as a cruel present 14:48 Ashmar knocks the werewolf away from you! <--- that does not get old 14:48 need a way to enbonify ashmar 14:49 brb 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:72220 (20:50:06) 14:59 A tower of flame erupts from the ice under the fire ant! The fire ant is uninjured. The ice crackles and melts. The fire ant drowns. 15:06 that's normal, yes 15:07 krm26: I keep singing pangolin to myself 15:09 it is a catchy tune 15:10 glad you like it! we used to do these things called "btyping poems" on plato/novanet, where you had 60 seconds to cough them up on some topic, and i got fairly facile with the form 15:10 not quite as high pressure as free-form rapping but keeps a quick deliverable 15:14 WHY no secespita lolth come onnnnnnnnnnn 15:15 secespita IS a valid chaotic artifact gift, isn't it? 15:18 Should be 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had a quarterstaff entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:73616 (21:15:00) 15:25 well that is not helpful lolth 15:25 krm26: My Rog-Dro got one. 15:26 krm's just whining (as he does) about artifact luck 15:29 without whining nothing gets done 15:29 umbire's just jealous he's not as big a whiner as i am 15:31 Because the second I start tilting and complaining in earnest, the shit stops being funny. 15:31 what is this word, "earnest" 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had a spellbook of teleport away given to her by Lolth, on T:75592 (21:29:14) 15:37 come on lolth, i'm only gonna give you 50k more turns to give me this knife before i give up 15:40 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:45 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:52694 (17:59:21) 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed secespita", on T:76376 (21:39:22) 15:52 Does dark elven tunic have spellcasting penalities? If it was dragon scaled? 15:52 not that i have noticed 15:52 it does 15:52 (as a drow) 15:53 really? i guess wizards are just too awesome to be inconvenienced 15:53 you're a primary spellcaster so it's likely less noticeable 15:53 Only crystal plate doesn't? 15:53 i wore one as a rogue drow and was getting like +10% fail 15:53 oh yeah, that sounds right 15:53 so only crystal plate 15:53 140aum more than a tunic alas 15:53 Correct, wizards have penalties for any body armor minus that 15:53 well I think most roles do but there you go 15:57 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Other_Changes 15:57 ^ see 2nd bullet point 15:58 hey k2, when forging is it max(enchantment), or avg(enchantment)? 15:59 max of the 2nd recipe obj 15:59 K2: Thanks 16:00 max of the enchantments of whatever ingredients are of the same type as the result 16:00 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:00 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 16:00 +3 long sword and +2 long sword = +3 katana 16:01 +4 dagger and -1 helmet = -1 small shield 16:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:01 +4 knife and +2 war hammer = +whotheheckknows dented pot 16:02 +99 16:04 +2? 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) refused to give up The Mitre of Holiness to the Arch Priest, on T:37574 (11:31:26) 16:04 oh right that whole deal 16:04 you got the pet I assume? 16:05 (the pot enchantment would be random) 16:06 Oh, right, because object types 16:06 or something? 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) killed the Arch Priest, on T:37612 (11:33:56) 16:06 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:08 'Lolth is extremely angry with you.' 16:08 :P 16:09 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:53292 (18:23:09) 16:09 she doesn't like it when people are careless with her game pieces 16:09 lighten up lolth 16:11 as chaotic that will take some doing 16:12 offer the high priest's corpse 16:12 i cant remember for some reason - if your deity is mad at you, can you still convert an altar? 16:13 don't you convert yourself then? 16:15 eh i have a chaotic altar already 16:18 it looks like only bad alignment record will cause you to convert...but said record is checked with a macro called ugod_is_angry :/ 16:18 yeah i didnt chance it 16:23 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 16:28 yeah, p. sure you self convert 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Rog Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:53811 (18:45:38) 16:32 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:41 nah, it's perfectly fine to convert an altar while your god is angry, it's just the code is really opaque about it 16:42 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 16:42 Hmmm, I can't seem to hit Kas with my weapons 16:42 his AC is stupid low 16:43 I can get to -50 and just use Mojo, perhaps? 16:43 Try single hand. 16:43 If I throw Mojo at him, does he keep it? 16:43 yeah, that would definitely help. you also don't really *need* to fight him, especially if you have good weapons for vecna already 16:43 nope 16:43 +7 mojo and +7 Snickersnee 16:45 oh right god anger doesn't matter, it specifically checks if your alignment is blasted to shit 16:45 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 16:45 just that your god is also usually angry as a result 16:46 Hmmm, who is Lolth that I'm fighting now? 16:47 Did that weredemon summon it? 16:47 Yep 16:48 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 16:48 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 17:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Orc Fem Una), 6788 points, T:5850, killed by a water moccasin 17:11 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:23 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Orc Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1994 (0:32:36) 17:53 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:28505 (10:04:15) 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28507 (10:04:31) 18:00 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:03 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 18:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:44035 (1 day, 0:37:13) 18:05 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:44088 (1 day, 0:39:32) 18:15 Hmmm, is it safe to pray on the first level of Vecna? 18:16 I'm a neutral Valk if that matters. 18:17 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:22 Looks like I have to.  No other way to let go of Kas's 2 handed sword. 18:22 Can't zap, can't open my bag an pull something out, don't have holy water on me. 18:23 Can't cast a spell either. 18:23 Was it cursed while already in your hands? 18:24 I also suggest waiting for an answer, my inclination is "maybe, similar to Vlad's" but I'm not 100% 18:32 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed frost brand", on T:40295 (12:33:18) 18:33 heh i got the owner 18:33 Wuh oh~ 18:34 dbanethacker: you can also #tip your bag, but yes, prayer does work in Vecna's branch 18:35 Hmmm, I didn't know about that option. 18:37 yup, its not part of gehennom 18:37 just like vlad's 18:39 Oddly enough, I was attacked by a weredemon who infected me that forced me to drop the cursed 2 handed sword 18:39 #tip command is a mainstay of 3.6 variants 18:41 Never used it - didn't know about it.  Thanks for the #tip ! 18:41 hah! 18:42 IIRC the drop of the sword was because I changed to a wererat. 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fire brand", on T:40367 (12:43:26) 18:42 dammit didnt get it 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fire brand", on T:40368 (12:43:48) 18:42 got it! 18:42 with the owner 18:43 that's 3 smoky wishes almost in a row 18:43 wtf 18:43 I thought if it slipped through your hands (like the first time) then it's gone?  I guess not!! 18:43 No. 18:43 It just means you didn't get it 18:43 If at first you don't succeed, try try again! 18:45 k2, you are a rank amateur. i can drink 20 smoky potions in a row and get nuthin 18:45 but your chances go down each time, even if it slips through your fingers 18:46 i need to find 2 more forges 18:46 yup 18:46 i got super lucky 18:46 make your own forge! 18:46 now i can forge the SoA 18:46 and then forge the AoR 18:46 nerd boner - engage 18:46 man i want that and the hammer and the gauntlets on a lawful priest 18:46 then i'll never leave the dungeon 18:47 heh 18:47 krm26 why havent you ascended? 'i cant leave!' 18:47 i mainly do the ascension run because you refuse to implement the feature where i can gift ascension-ready characters to other accounts 18:48 although i mainly wanted that before the revamp 18:49 :) 18:49 Lolth is now only 'angry' with me and not 'extremely angry' 18:49 progress 18:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:77775 (22:30:16) 18:49 oooh nice 18:50 boo 18:50 useless drek 18:50 forge that with grimtooth, make shadowblade 18:50 but, why? 18:50 nice weapon for wizard 18:50 until you can get the SotA 18:50 i've got secespita and magicbane in inventory 18:50 ah 18:50 just not forging while i use secespita 18:51 well... backup weapon 18:51 i have half of soa and half of ashmar :-) 18:51 and exactly 4 forges 18:51 which means sota, soa + ashmar -> aor 18:51 plus, i cant get grimtooth without a wish, being drow, right? 18:52 i've already used my one artifact wish on secespita, it has been half a year since i've been able to get a 2nd artifact so i don't even try any mroe 18:53 correct 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) genocided energy vortices, on T:40433 (12:55:57) 18:57 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Cen Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:28799 (10:40:16) 19:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:79006 (22:41:43) 19:03 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:06 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:41121 (13:07:14) 19:08 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create the Armor of Retribution, on T:41251 (13:10:17) 19:09 \o/ 19:09 schwing 19:10 awesome 19:12 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 19:13 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:93649 (1 day, 11:40:37) 19:14 i need a break 19:15 i want to say but I know if I do, i'll jinx myself 19:15 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 19:17 discovered a bug while wearing ashmar 19:18 https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack#L28 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) had a spellbook of detect treasure given to her by Lolth, on T:82285 (22:59:32) 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2102 (0:14:01) 19:23 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:28 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 19:29 I thought artifact items can't be deteriorated or rusted or made to "go bad", aside from being cursed.  Is it another bug that Ashamar can be deteriorated? 19:29 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:29 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:29 i think yes 19:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:39 mind flayer larva, hiding in a murky puddle room 19:39 super scary 19:42 yes, tread carefully 19:43 leaving it alone 19:46 k2, you see dbanethacker's comment about ashmar deteriorating? 19:53 only quest artifacts are explicitly immune 19:54 there just aren't many no-quest artifact armors, so you don't see it much 20:03 Dragonbane does that all the time wdym 20:03 it's the main example I see that happening with 20:37 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:50 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 20:54 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:56 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 20:58 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 21:05 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.0.2] 21:09 krm26 yup, what terrapin said 21:09 kk 21:09 ashmar in my game got deteriorated too 21:09 oooh 21:09 oh wait AoR should be fine as-is 21:10 crystal plate is immune to monster destroy armor spell 21:11 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 21:15 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 21:50 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:34777 (12:48:03) 22:07 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:95186 (1 day, 12:29:51) 22:27 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:95825 (1 day, 12:49:56) 22:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossku (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 6614 points, T:3077, diseased by a hobbit zombie, while praying 22:42 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:96517 (1 day, 13:04:11) 23:23 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed Demonbane", on T:97721 (1 day, 13:45:35) 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:98466 (1 day, 13:58:56) 23:54 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 23:54 !who 23:54 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] Drizossku [evil] xialg [evil] eggandhull [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Drizossku (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a fire ant), on T:9742 (1:21:53)