00:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:19 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 01:06 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 01:07 whoa nice, dark elven mace of venom on level one 01:08 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a balrog, on T:66323 (22:11:01) 01:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1709 (0:07:01) 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:66715 (22:23:03) 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 4396 points, T:3642, killed by an owlbear 01:22 oh, I thought you couldn't miss if something was holding you 01:29 strange, twoweaponing in polyform attacks twice with your main weapon (even though it says you're wielding two weapons) 01:30 polyform weapon attacks are weird 01:37 !tell k2 if you offhand an artifact in polyform, its attack is replaced with an attack with your mainhand weapon 01:37 I'm on it, terrapin. 01:40 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:58 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:46066 (1 day, 9:31:02) 02:00 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:00 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 02:14 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:46382 (1 day, 9:47:09) 02:17 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Staff of the Archmagi, on T:46542 (1 day, 9:49:49) 02:28 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:30 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 02:43 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 03:13 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:47411 (1 day, 10:46:11) 03:29 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:32 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a trident entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:26849 (6:10:56) 04:11 -!- bgt32 has joined #evilhack 04:11 -!- bgt32 is now known as k3ut0i 04:30 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:47738 (1 day, 11:40:51) 04:30 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:47738 (1 day, 11:41:16) 04:49 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had an ashwood staff bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:48153 (1 day, 11:59:58) 05:29 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had an ashwood staff bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:48665 (1 day, 12:22:53) 05:35 I got stuck in sokoban treasure room, when branchporting. 05:35 No phasing, or telp works. Luckily digging down worked. 05:37 Could've waited for another branchport ofcourse. 06:34 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:51206 (1 day, 13:27:09) 06:45 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:51630 (1 day, 13:38:09) 07:10 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1319 points, T:1153, killed by a soldier ant 07:16 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had an oilskin cloak entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:35091 (8:24:49) 07:17 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:35285 (8:25:53) 07:42 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a leather bag of holding, on T:37692 (8:50:51) 07:57 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a leather jacket entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:38217 (9:05:52) 07:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2046 points, T:2029, diseased by a dwarf zombie, while praying 08:03 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:53081 (1 day, 14:56:50) 08:03 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:53083 (1 day, 14:57:00) 08:15 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:16 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:22 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:54021 (1 day, 15:15:30) 08:35 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Trt Fem Neu) destroyed Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:7850 (3:11:51) 08:44 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a touch of death), on T:54419 (1 day, 15:37:15) 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Trt Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:8090 (3:21:53) 08:46 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:54435 (1 day, 15:39:10) 08:46 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Trt Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:8091 (3:23:00) 08:59 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3556 (0:23:25) 09:03 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Elf Fem Cha) consumed animal products (pancake) for the first time, on T:3751 (0:24:37) 09:05 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:10 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 7294 points, T:4379, killed by a soldier ant, while reading a book 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Sam Hum Mal Law), 509 points, T:880, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 10:01 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 10:01 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 5584 points, T:4055, killed by a coyote 10:15 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 10:19 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest2026 10:19 -!- Guest2026 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 10:19 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:19 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 10:19 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:20 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:33 k2, janis mentioned a potential bug on rgrn 10:33 https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/c/tAsWBpp7fR0 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4056 (0:40:05) 10:34 We already know lol 10:34 ok 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:4164 (0:41:23) 10:36 thanks cbus 10:36 K2: Message from terrapin at 2023-08-04 01:37 EDT: if you offhand an artifact in polyform, its attack is replaced with an attack with your mainhand weapon 10:37 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/9580bea0b305...9bf0cf437a64 10:38 ah 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4427 (0:45:48) 10:40 (the specific line that causes the offhand artifact problem is here: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/9bf0cf437a6447d4fb46e2e541f484366a41362d/src/uhitm.c#L3919) 10:44 thanks terrapin 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Sam Hum Mal Law), 8687 points, T:5742, killed by a giant cockroach 11:15 so i get the fucking sewers 11:16 worst mine's end ever 11:17 Gross 11:17 K2, I forget - do players get bonuses for racial weapons and armor? 11:17 or is it just the armor 11:18 i am on a serious streak of absolutely crappy rng 11:18 so the sewers is sort of appropriate 11:21 just the armor 11:21 hothraxxa I think you're full of shit 11:21 ... get it? 11:22 😃 11:23 * hothraxxa throws feces at k2 11:23 monkey! no! 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:55963 (1 day, 18:08:39) 11:29 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:55964 (1 day, 18:08:57) 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:41519 (11:14:21) 11:36 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:56130 (1 day, 18:15:39) 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:68985 (23:33:38) 11:46 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:68986 (23:33:41) 11:53 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible dark elven high priest of Moloch, on T:56460 (1 day, 18:33:01) 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:56633 (1 day, 18:35:41) 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:56640 (1 day, 18:36:33) 12:05 Status of the mastodon (female, neutral): Level 19 HP 167(167) AC 2, slow. 12:05 i'm kind of dead here 12:05 4 hp 12:05 use your super power 12:05 #manager 12:06 i don't have my helm of karen 12:06 lol 12:06 eww in sewage 12:06 hothraxxa on an unrelated note - i'm developing a tolerance to thc 12:06 wand of sleep? 12:06 no teleportation scroll? 12:07 burdened and tortle, ugh 12:07 #sir_robin 12:07 i guess you aren't sure if the brass wand is tp or invis? 12:07 k2: that's a good thing, no? 12:07 savor the moment---in the sewers, tortles actually have a speed *advantage* 12:08 right 12:08 i took a 5mg edible last night, and I used to be able to feel the effects about 1-1.5 hrs in, definitely at 2 hr mark. last night, nothing. nada 12:08 well you didn't like the thc effect. does it still help your back issue? 12:08 i didnt notice any pain relief either, that's the thing 12:09 oh. something not right there 12:09 yeah 12:09 how much have you been using? 12:09 gonna do 1½ edibles tonight and see what happens 12:09 typically 5mg thc with 20mg cbd 12:10 i meant how often 12:10 once a day (at night after work, close to bedtime) 12:10 you shouldn't develop much tolerance then 12:10 my wife's grandmother did 12:11 she's 97 and weighs maybe 90 pounds. she's up to 20+ mg of thc a day to level out 12:11 increasing the dose isn't really the way to go 12:11 not all at once mind you 12:11 i may do the tincture instead 12:12 that hits fast 12:12 i'm not sure about edibles. if you were vaping or smoking then i could tell you how to reduce your tolerance 12:12 yeah try the tincture 12:12 ah well 12:12 maybe last night was a one-off 12:12 possible 12:13 so here i can try the sleep wand and get killed by the sewer rat 12:13 or zap the vanisher at the mastodon and hope it's tp 12:13 or zap myself for that matter 12:14 i just prayed so that's out 12:14 sleep the mastodon, you may get lucky with the rat 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:106436 (1 day, 16:27:07) 12:15 or the sleep ray may miss 12:15 assume that is a fake mastodon? 12:15 i think it is from a poly trap 12:16 @e?mastodon 12:16 mastodon (q) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Atk: 4d8 butt physical, 1d6 hug physical, 4d8 butt knockback | Align: 0 | genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravis 12:16 it's been a mastodon since i got here 12:16 gotcha 12:16 odds are in your favor re: zapping it with sleep 12:16 just did 12:16 no guarantee of anything though 12:16 ah 12:16 now i have to get the fuck outta here 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) averted death (killed by Lucifer), on T:57191 (1 day, 18:58:17) 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) averted death (killed by Graz'zt), on T:57194 (1 day, 18:59:15) 12:20 annnnd my streak continues 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) averted death (caught herself in her own ball of cold), on T:57199 (1 day, 19:00:23) 12:21 ooof 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) averted death (caught herself in her own ball of cold), on T:57203 (1 day, 19:01:28) 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Lolth, on T:57203 (1 day, 19:01:29) 12:22 thats a lot of aversion 12:22 I don't think I can survive this. 12:22 dont give up 12:23 do you have/can you write earth or charging? 12:23 yes, definitely earth 12:23 and confused charging can restore your energy so you can keep blasting 12:23 have you cancelled all the demon lords/princes left? 12:26 you are phasing! 12:27 k2, is the portal active without lucifer being dead? 12:27 no 12:27 so standing on it limits enemy access to you, good defensive position 12:28 only 2 attackers 12:29 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) averted death (killed by the flames of hell), on T:57227 (1 day, 19:09:27) 12:30 aww 12:30 good try, sorry you got bogged down there 12:31 i've concluded that evilhack is really evil 12:32 on a related not, i wonder if i should just sit here and let orcus beat on me a bit 12:32 nice run k3ut0i 12:32 liking the unique death also 12:32 yes, you were soooo close! 12:33 where did it go wrong? did lucy instagate some other lords? 12:33 all those liches around didnt help things 12:33 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 3232115 points, T:57234, withered away (with the Amulet) 12:33 oh 12:33 i've had lucifer do a turn 1 and a turn 2 gate before, but only the one time 12:33 :( valiant effort 12:33 that's the death 12:34 i cant read apparently 12:34 I've died 8 times. 12:34 oh f, orcus is hitting my pegasus! screw oyu 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:106639 (1 day, 16:38:49) 12:35 I lost most of my loot due to a nurse. I dropped my bag when nurse dancing. She took it and vanished. 12:38 ooooh 12:38 that is a new one 12:38 K2: Thanks for the game. This fun. 12:38 *This is fun. 12:39 thank you! 12:40 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Orcish_scimitar 12:40 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Orcish_boots 12:41 you made it this far, you could go allthe way 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:70475 (1 day, 0:09:10) 12:44 Your sacrifice is consumed in a burst of flame! Divine knowledge of create monster fills your mind! The voice of Lolth booms out: "Use this gift skillfully!" 12:44 that is so cool to actually see it happen 12:44 whee 12:45 assuming livelogging for that is on the tracker? 12:45 it is already 12:45 thought so 12:45 i have my min turn count set kinda high via the bot 12:46 ah 12:46 whhhat, gods can stick a spell directly in your head? 12:46 yup 12:46 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (alhoons), on T:70495 (1 day, 0:12:39) 12:46 is that just very low probability, or new? 12:46 hah, vecna's throne gave me a genocide 12:47 newish 12:47 terrapin \o/ 12:47 it's when you're illiterate, i think 12:47 adapted from vanilla iirc 12:47 you really need to log hand/eye from vecna so i don't always have to ask people 12:47 (eye) 12:48 thx :-) 12:48 ok 12:48 destroyed vecna should be a special message -- "destroyed vecna, harvesting hand" 12:48 yup added to tracker 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:107300 (1 day, 17:09:15) 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:107302 (1 day, 17:09:22) 13:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:10 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) had a silver shield of mobility entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:71138 (1 day, 0:36:49) 13:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:12 -!- Umby has joined #evilhack 13:12 -!- Umby is now known as Umbire 13:16 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest2681 13:16 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 13:17 -!- Guest2681 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) had a gold scimitar entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:71719 (1 day, 0:50:33) 13:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:26 alright graz'zt come lick my gauntlets of purity 13:29 k2 noooo! graz'zt can still steal crap from my mount when i'm wearing gauntlets of purity. that is No. Fair. 13:31 so he can dismount you 13:34 is your steed wearing the gauntlets? 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1303 points, T:3178, killed by a piranha 13:35 we hateess you k2 13:35 :P 13:35 i slap at graz'zt every time he tries to charm my steed! 13:35 slap slap slap! 13:36 swear to graz'zt the one time i'm sitting around TRYING to get demons summoned and nothing 13:36 dammit he's cancelled 13:39 my restore ability spell doesn't seem to be fixing him. f it 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Graz'zt, on T:108276 (1 day, 17:44:28) 13:40 graz'zt can't be uncancelled, much like foocubi 13:48 lammmme 13:49 new plan: die to too many demon lords at lucifer 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 3532 points, T:4980, killed by a panther 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2159 (0:18:49) 13:54 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) had a shield of reflection entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:72514 (1 day, 1:20:19) 14:03 k3ut0i: you know centaur knights count as mounted intrinsically for lance use in evilhack (and chaotic knights get dirge!) 14:04 krm26: I didn't know about centaur knights. 14:04 I love lance. 14:04 That will be my next char. 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) had a shield of reflection entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:72985 (1 day, 1:32:19) 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible k3ut0i's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2997 (0:31:24) 14:14 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:14 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 14:14 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +3 fire brand", on T:73248 (1 day, 1:40:48) 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +3 fire brand", on T:73249 (1 day, 1:41:17) 14:15 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:15 dang 14:15 k3ut0i, you can also forge lances now (although not the ideal lance, the bone lance :-) 14:16 yea look out for weapons with oprops you can forge 14:16 spear + 2 crossbow bolts -> javelin; short sword + spear -> glaive; glaive + javelin -> lance 14:16 or to start from basics you can use 16 arrows, 4 crossbow bolts, and 6 darts to forge your mithril lance of frost or whatever 14:17 dual wielding mithril lance of frost centaur knight is hysterical 14:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:18 oh rip k3ut0i :( 14:18 !lastgame k3ut0i 14:18 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k3ut0i/evilhack/dumplog/1691167231.evil.html 14:18 holy shit that's a lot of monsters in the sanctum 14:20 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3657 (0:48:18) 14:24 lolth was there too just before the death 14:24 lucy, greaz'zt and lolth 14:25 I've had lucy, lolth and yeenoghu before 14:25 and lucy+demo 14:25 but I always geno liches too 14:26 and graz'zt is so dangerous if you don't have gopur... 14:29 yeah he is imo the number one most dangerous thing in the endgame without purity 14:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:29 he makes purity worthwhile for non-casters 14:30 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 14:35 for sure 14:36 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:37 purity pretty much counters two of the most dangerous demon princes 14:37 https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2642/source 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:74005 (1 day, 2:04:23) 14:38 whho is the second one? 14:38 oh you are talking about death magic 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by offering a warg corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:4497 (1:03:28) 14:38 orcus 14:39 grats on orctown k3ut0i! the best town 14:39 krm26: It is? No protection :( 14:39 got the phantom boulder again 14:40 yeah but you get all those tools, and potions of healing, and a free altar 14:40 i'd say guaranteed aligned altar is a lot better than early protection in almost all cases 14:40 plus a bunch of wands of sleep 14:41 i like to weasel to the altar without killing anything and then go sacrifice crazy 14:41 that's my preferred method also; can almost always wring something out of your stingy god 14:42 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 14:42 hahaha first wand of the game and first ring was polymorph+polycontrol 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1649 (0:21:57) 14:44 funny how a lot of the weaker roles can kill gk early 14:44 turn yourself into a dragon immediately and chow + breed 14:45 you bet 14:45 minetown is about to be a ghost town 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Mal Law), 6383 points, T:4622, killed by a warg, while praying 14:47 I don't understand. Why did my horse go crazy? 14:47 I didn't accept food. Just kept kicking me. 14:47 It* 14:48 what did you try to feed it 14:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 greased fixed dragonhide speed boots", on T:110104 (1 day, 18:52:25) 14:48 carrots and apples 14:48 maybe it got hit with a potion of confusion or something 14:48 ok then it's confused by someting 14:48 +h 14:48 confused from starvation? 14:48 aggravate monster? 14:48 no maybe a yellow molud or something like that 14:48 Not starvation. I chatted with it and it whickerd. 14:48 black light 14:49 That would've been a good game. I even had a magic lamp 14:49 oh you're deaded? 14:49 yeah. 14:50 Conflict? 14:50 Or probably general confusion 14:50 No. Not starvation too. 14:50 !lastgame k3ut0i 14:50 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k3ut0i/evilhack/dumplog/1691170520.evil.html 14:50 Probably caught a black light then 14:50 MvM combat also works so clerical monsters can confuse pets too 14:50 evilhack should be called cruelhack 14:51 i'll put in a pr 14:51 yeah could've been stunned by an orcish shaman or something 14:51 has anyone ever made an alignment chart for nethack variants 14:51 gnomish wizards. so op 14:51 what would evilhack be 14:51 lawful evil? 14:51 it wouldnt be any of the evil flavors, which i think is funny 14:52 Is clerical monsters confusing pets more so than vanilla nethack? 14:52 i'd say neutral good -- balanced, ui improvements, challenging, nothing totally insane 14:52 i don't think so k3ut0i, it is unusual for clerical monsters to target pets with confusion 14:53 does the +2 mithril damage/to-hit bonus apply to non-bladed weapons? 14:54 it works for both slashing and piercing (material bonuses only ever apply to damage, though) 14:54 It is, categorically 14:54 mvm casting isn't a thing at all in vanilla 14:54 oh yeah I made up the th bonus lol 14:55 this master mind flayer with slow digestion, reflection, mr, unihorn and lizards appears to be invinceable 14:55 maybe i can finally get a pet all the way to the planes 14:55 Disint passives exists 14:56 "maybe" :-) 14:56 too bad i can't jack his level up past 19 14:56 give him bdsm 14:56 wait 14:56 black dragon scale mail 14:56 k2: wands of striking zapped by monsters don't break iron bars 14:56 just give him pots of gain level 14:57 pots of gain level that could be quaffed yourself??? inconceivable 14:57 yeah i generally save 11 gain level to drink for the ascension run 14:58 what's the strongest dragon form that isn't black? 14:58 shadow 14:58 I don't want to disint loot 14:58 oh duh 14:58 shadow is not only the strongest that isnt black, it is the strongest including black 14:58 (is celestial a poly form?) 14:58 yeah I had forgotten about them 14:58 I assume celestial is nopoly 14:58 yeah 14:59 don't forget an egg or two! 14:59 shadow dragon pet would be totally worth the perma darkness 14:59 I'm male 14:59 YOU FOOL 14:59 lol 14:59 what is WRONG with you...gah, stupid males 15:00 @e?celestial dragon 15:00 celestial dragon (D) | Lvl: 30 | Diff: 34 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep shock acid petrification | Confer: sleep shock | MR: 50 | Gen: special | AC: -6 | Atk: 16d4 scream loud, 4d8 bite physical, 4d6 claw physical, 4d6 claw physical, 4d4 cast clerical | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, regen, seeinvis, nopoly 15:00 can dragons wear amulets 15:00 umm 15:00 no 15:00 rings are ok 15:01 Well, they can if you're polying into one 15:01 assumed dragon pet 15:01 I don't think you can swap off after due to not having viable hands 15:04 oh my fucking god I'm going to be stunlocked 15:04 uh oh 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 3744 points, T:4025, killed by a centaurian watchman 15:05 k2 you will pay for this 15:05 I know you changed the gnomish wizards 15:05 interesting -- 15:05 i was running to watch you loggers, and right after selecting you -- must have been the instant you died -- it blew off my putty 15:06 hard crash 15:06 I break the wand of poly while wearing polycontrol OF COURSE I get the you feel like a new tortle 15:06 oh weird 15:06 yeah 15:07 menu software must think you're trying something illegal to select a nonexistent game from the watch menu 15:07 gnomish wizards have always been stunlocking 15:07 would have expected it to just refresh the list of current games tho 15:07 come at me bro 15:07 :P 15:07 yeah, if i like my run, i do NOT close with gnomish wizards 15:08 death at range 15:08 -!- k3ut0i has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:09 at this point I refuse to believe nothing is different about the gnomish wizard's stun 15:09 that's often not a choice 15:09 maybe if one person thought it was different and was wrong, okay. but literally every single new player thinks something is weird 15:09 i think k2 added bolt of cold and fireball 15:09 it's uncanny 15:10 not sure if they always had healing 15:10 I think they did 15:10 Loggers, you may have missed it, but a few weeks ago we noticed that spell timeouts for casters below level 8 were to low 15:10 They have 15:10 HAH! 15:10 fixed it 15:10 it's fixed for 0.8.2 but still (now intentionally) lower than in vanilla 15:10 its not quite as low as it was before 15:10 but is still lower than vanilla, yeah 15:11 HAH! :P 15:11 nice 15:11 :P 15:11 a couple of games ago i got hit by gnomish wizard stun 12 times before i finally got killed 15:11 the actual stun routine/duration matches vanilla nethack. its just they can cast them more often 15:12 actually, since gnomish wizards are base level 3, and the min timeout is 2, 4 - m_lev will result in the same timeout as before 15:12 huh, i'd assumed gnomish wizards were lower level 15:13 in any case gnomish wizards are capable of perpetual stun lock 15:13 not guaranteed of course 15:17 evilhack revolves around one premise - what can we do to maximize complaints to the manager 15:17 ^ in the mind of hothraxxa 15:17 :P 15:18 i demand to speak to your manager 15:18 i understand that she is an ice queen 15:18 hahah 15:19 she still asks me periodically how often she's killed an adventurer 15:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:23 i think when a player dies in the sanctum after lucifer is awake s/he should be added permanently as a named lemur there 15:44 hmm -- is there any risk of an adamantine amulet breaking? 15:44 EPI: every time an adventurer dies, the monster that killed it gets a bonus stat incremented on its permonst struct, that makes that type of monster tougher in future games. Perhaps manifested as more hitpoints. 15:45 One would imagine that if it's an amulet of life-saving, it'll break when it saves your life. 15:45 Beyond that, no idea. 15:45 (adamantine is a drow material that can get dusted in light) 15:46 but i think it only matters for gear that is hit (or used to hit), which should mean amulets are safe? k2? 15:47 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#New_materials 15:47 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:47 nifty 15:47 shaving off some amulet weight because i'm weight crazy 15:48 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:49 * jonadab never thought of amulets as a major source of weight. 15:50 they weigh 20 aum in base material! 15:50 adamantine they only weigh 13 15:50 that is 7 more aum i can carry 15:50 drool 15:50 I see. 15:51 that is a whole extra wand of teleportation 15:51 Yes, but... there has got to be a way to save a lot more than 7. 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:110578 (1 day, 19:56:52) 15:54 not in the amulet slot. there is also mithril but the polypile gave me adamantine 15:54 i use bone lock picks (1 aum) to save 2 aum also :-) 15:56 I mean, a bag of holding weighs 15, so if you just stop carrying that, you can save 15... 16:01 -!- mobileuser89 has joined #evilhack 16:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:03 -!- mobileuser89 is now known as mobileuser 16:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed spellbook of polymorph", on T:110811 (1 day, 20:19:56) 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4011 (0:45:21) 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:4248 (0:48:14) 16:25 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4536 (0:52:58) 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:5786 (1:10:13) 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] sluggoman (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5833 (1:11:16) 17:13 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 17:17 jonadab: the self-modifying code required for that would be horrible 17:18 so, since i'm relying on PYEC for MR, i was very motivated to understand how grease interacts with amulet-stealers 17:18 Can monsters in evilhack cast stun at range? Vanilla doesn't have ranged monster spellcasting. 17:19 it's a melee-range mage spell 17:20 and the commit says that grease only protects quest artifacts, but it looks to me like invocation items can also be affected 17:21 which comes up specifically for player monsters 17:21 idk if it was ever intended or not but there you go 17:22 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blame/9bf0cf437a6447d4fb46e2e541f484366a41362d/src/steal.c#L656 should be if (otmp->greased && (!otmp->cursed || rn2(4)) && !obj_resists(obj, 0, 0)) if invocation items aren't meant to be protected by grease, k2 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Trt Fem Neu), 30630 points, T:22814, killed by a mumak 17:37 D: 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:75723 (1 day, 3:09:08) 17:46 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:02 terrapin ah 18:11 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:24 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33 -!- [ has joined #evilhack 18:33 <[> I don't think using obj_resists for that is right 18:33 <[> SoA will also resist everything 18:44 [, only quest artifacts and invocation items get to that point, so it works okay, even if it's a little unintuitive 18:44 <[> what about the infidel QA? 18:45 it will never be protected by grease 18:46 whether that's a bug is up to interpretation; they're such a special case anyway 18:46 idol of moloch is playing infidel falls under obj_resists 18:47 oh, k2, did you see my message about monsters zapping striking and it not destroying iron bars? 18:50 yes 18:54 since monsters dont target things like iron bars on purpose, that's prob why handling for that was never added 18:58 just speculating 18:58 makes sense 18:58 but yeah if i monster zapped a wand of striking and bars were in the line of fire, makes sense that they'd be affected 19:00 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 19:02 added that to the tracker terrapin 19:03 cool 19:28 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide gauntlets of protection", on T:77461 (1 day, 4:04:38) 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:5298 (0:54:24) 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a wolf corpse on an altar of Lolth, on T:5690 (0:56:04) 19:38 yay K2 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:6065 (0:58:18) 19:38 double yay 19:38 also a thought occurs 19:39 you know how the STR cap for orc polyforms matches player orcs in vanilla, right? 19:39 did you ever consider something similar for centaurs in Evil? 19:39 not really 19:43 Ah 20:02 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 20:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 20:15 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:79572 (1 day, 4:51:55) 20:25 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 20:26 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 20:48 Noisytoot: Nah, we'll just roll an xlogfile reader into makedefs, it'll be fine. 20:49 Probably won't even become self-aware. 20:59 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:80604 (1 day, 5:35:55) 21:00 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:80608 (1 day, 5:36:17) 21:03 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:80672 (1 day, 5:39:52) 21:17 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) killed the orcish high priest of Moloch, on T:80983 (1 day, 5:53:58) 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:80996 (1 day, 5:54:46) 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) killed Lucifer, on T:81152 (1 day, 6:06:12) 21:31 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) entered Purgatory, on T:81181 (1 day, 6:07:51) 22:05 wooo go terrapin 22:05 :3 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:82316 (1 day, 6:41:56) 22:05 Oh, K2 22:05 what should I call champions when I make an article for them 22:06 specifically the ones Infidels meet 22:06 because Champion is a Valk rank title 22:06 well.. they are champions 22:06 so call them that 22:07 So just Champion (EvilHack)? 22:07 sure 22:07 I had an inclination towards "aligned champion" 22:07 since they're also in Hack'EM 22:07 or Champion (monster) 22:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 22:08 that might cause some confusion with player monster valks of that rank title 22:08 i doubt it 22:08 (which're most likely to actually appear in astral, granted, but still) 22:08 go terrapin go! 22:08 you're overthinking it. just list it for what it is 22:11 high priest is a monster and a role title so there's already a precedent for that sort of thing 22:11 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:82420 (1 day, 6:47:19) 22:12 eh, fair 22:12 do I even have that nhtohtml though... 22:12 ah there we go 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) genocided sea dragons, on T:82477 (1 day, 6:50:28) 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) genocided two random monsters from class ;, on T:82478 (1 day, 6:50:34) 22:14 why geno sea dragons and ; if you have intrinsic magical breathing 22:15 not magical, can just breathe underwater 22:15 it used to be magical 22:15 all my stuff is greased, so i'm considering not getting wet 22:15 plus, what else am i going to geno? 22:17 yeah meant water breathing 22:17 terrapin scrolls of geno are used for woolly friends :) 22:17 get yourself a personal army today 22:19 don't worry, i have plenty more :) 22:19 lol 22:20 K2, just as a reminder champs can be of any alignment, right? 22:20 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) had a blessed dark elven cloak entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:6880 (1:10:50) 22:23 nvm, got my answer 22:23 apologies for pestering 22:29 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:82751 (1 day, 7:05:53) 22:30 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:82763 (1 day, 7:06:36) 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:82846 (1 day, 7:12:26) 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu) destroyed the saddled Pale Horse, on T:82848 (1 day, 7:12:37) 22:37 congrats terrapin! \o/ 22:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Trt Mal Neu), 4590278 points, T:82866, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/terrapin/evilhack/dumplog/1690578941.evil.html 22:38 gg! 22:38 impressed you got that dragon through the planes 22:38 cheers! 22:39 he came with me all the way from the ice queen's realm! 22:39 haha nice 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 655 points, T:672, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 22:50 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:1397 (0:10:18) 22:53 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 22:53 !who 22:53 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-us] k2 [evil] Nightsorrow [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 22:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1679 (0:13:43) 22:58 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:10614 (1:48:50) 23:02 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Champion_(monster) 23:02 also gj on the amulet 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4479 points, T:2992, killed by a kitten 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 71 points, T:212, killed by a raven 23:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:19 -!- k3ut0i has joined #evilhack 23:32 K2, check the article above and see how it looks for you 23:32 also Evil mentions the orcish morning star as being made for goblin outriders and goblin-captains 23:32 but only the captain gets them 23:41 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1937 (0:21:39)