00:00 gg 00:00 well-deserved imo 00:03 thanks Umbire! 00:06 http://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?diff=152750&oldid=152272&rcid=104004 for further memorialization 00:09 haha! i'm glad some use came of it 00:15 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15 yay terrapin! There's hope for me yet 00:17 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 00:22 good luck, bouquet! 00:26 !tell k2 when wielding the vorpal blade, enlightenment says you are "aware of the presence of Andies" (possibly that specific string can differ; point is, the index is out of bounds) because the MH_SPIDER flag got added in monflag.h but wasn't accounted for here: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/bf482bb1020d2edc0e837f41f1c53fc8bf3cd675/src/mondata.c#L912 00:26 k2 shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, terrapin. 00:29 Andies? 00:29 plural of "Andy", one of the possible NPC names, which I assume is stored near the list of race names or something 00:32 Yeah, the alt spellings thing is right after so 00:32 could be that 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed silver dragon scales", on T:20198 (3:32:44) 01:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:20225 (3:34:05) 01:16 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 19977 points, T:9609, killed by a shadow dragon 01:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 69506 points, T:23010, killed by a rock troll, while praying 01:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:24602 (4:02:07) 01:40 yay 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 232 points, T:278, killed by a rock gnome 01:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 173 points, T:480, killed by a boulder 01:53 terrapin: gg! 01:56 what does drow poison do? 02:00 makes the monster lose consciousness 02:15 sleep poison as opposed to poison poison 02:15 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 02:19 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 02:19 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 901 points, T:1509, killed by the Goblin King 02:26 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:29 tyty 02:29 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:34 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 02:37 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 02:38 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:52 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 02:55 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed magic marker", on T:23394 (7:10:19) 02:55 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:04 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:23617 (7:19:11) 03:07 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had a spellbook of blank paper given to her by Anhur, on T:23748 (7:22:26) 03:11 -!- Graznop has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- terrapin has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- nabru has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- K2 has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- arahael has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- bhaak has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- Demo1 has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- qt has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- Pinkbeast has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- bouquet has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- NetSysFire has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- mobileuser has quit [*.net *.split] 03:11 -!- lacca[m] has quit [*.net *.split] 03:12 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:23926 (7:27:15) 03:12 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Hum Mal Neu) had a spear entrusted to him by Odin, on T:67888 (1 day, 0:23:43) 03:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- bhaak has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- bouquet has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- Pinkbeast has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- Demo1 has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- K2 has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 03:19 -!- mode/#evilhack [+o K2] by molybdenum.libera.chat 03:24 -!- lacca[m] has joined #evilhack 04:41 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:57 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:29261 (10:11:49) 05:59 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 06:13 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:06 -!- Graznop has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:11 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 07:29 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 07:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3273 (0:39:30) 07:51 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:31332 (12:02:09) 07:51 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31334 (12:02:14) 07:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3892 (0:49:16) 07:55 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) completed her quest without incident, on T:31760 (12:05:56) 08:02 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:32319 (12:13:06) 08:11 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3927 (0:45:03) 08:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:3963 (0:46:14) 08:19 Umbire, the archbishop isnt racial 08:19 K2: Message from terrapin at 2023-07-27 00:26 EDT: when wielding the vorpal blade, enlightenment says you are "aware of the presence of Andies" (possibly that specific string can differ; point is, the index is out of bounds) because the MH_SPIDER flag got added in monflag.h but wasn't accounted for here: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/bf482bb1020d2edc0e837f41f1c53fc8bf3cd675/src/mondata.c#L912 08:19 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 08:19 just a human 08:19 terrapin congrats on your asc! 08:19 \o/ 08:19 yeah I'd found out after the fact and corrected accordingly 08:19 just forgot to send followup 08:20 terrapin thanks, added to bug tracker 08:21 bleh 08:21 that'll be an easy fix at least 08:21 You are aware of the presence of Carls 08:21 \o/ 08:21 ... CARL 08:21 and congrats terrapin :-) 08:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:4214 (0:54:10) 08:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:6956 (1:20:31) 08:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:7234 (1:25:09) 08:35 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 08:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:33798 (12:51:01) 08:45 K2, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/799 08:46 how does this look as a draft for expanding high priest stuff 08:47 also did you see the ping from #nethackwiki 08:53 yeah looks fine 08:55 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 08:57 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 09:01 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:9299 (1:44:16) 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 152778 points, T:34210, killed by a torrent of acid 09:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10198 (1:54:23) 09:13 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 09:16 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 09:18 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Trt Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "test", on T:3382 (1:03:01) 09:24 oof k3ut0i 09:24 !lastgame k3ut0i 09:24 mobileuser: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k3ut0i/evilhack/dumplog/1690376416.evil.html 09:25 K2, Kathryn strikes again 09:31 she will be pleased when she hears the news 09:35 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:36 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:36 always acid resist 09:40 a lesson we all had to learn at some point 09:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:12512 (2:23:25) 09:44 hard lesson to learn, but it makes you stronger 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 385 points, T:1336, killed by a gnome lady 09:59 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:05 K2, HPoM can be human, elf, orc, giant or illithid, right? 10:05 am I missing any species 10:06 sounds right 10:07 centaur too maybe 10:07 oh and drow 10:08 "In [[EvilHack]], the high priest of Moloch is a [[racial monster]] like all other aligned priests and high priests, and may appear as a human, elf, orc, giant, centaur, drow, or illithid. They also guard a crystal chest containing a guaranteed [[magic marker]]." 10:09 yeah 10:11 hmm scratch centaur 10:11 see align_randrace() in mon.c 10:11 Right 10:11 and I prob. know the answer 10:11 it'd be human, illithid, orc, elf, giant, drow 10:11 but do you care about Infidel spoilers at this point or no 10:12 i dont 10:12 the wiki is a giant spoiler and anyone can edit it 10:12 bet 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a short sword entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:61521 (17:30:03) 10:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a spellbook of magic mapping given to her by Moloch, on T:14338 (2:59:10) 10:18 "Defeating the high priest of Moloch and obtaining the Amulet causes a gate to form in the inner Sanctum's west wall, leading to a previously unreachable part of the map that contains [[Lucifer]] and the portal to [[Purgatory]]. All other methods of leaving the Sanctum are suppressed and the up stair is removed, meaning that defeating Lucifer is necessary to leave." 10:18 "For [[Infidel]]s, the goal is instead to bring the Amulet of Yendor to the Sanctum along with their quest artifact, [[The Idol of Moloch]], and sacrifice the Amulet to Moloch on the unaligned high altar - Moloch will then imbue the Idol with the power of the Amulet so that the player can [[invoke]] it on a specific high altar in the Astral Plane. The high priest of Moloch remains peaceful to Infidels, and is one source of hints regarding which altar is 10:18 the correct one." 10:18 ^yes? no? 10:22 yeah 10:23 ballin' 10:29 -!- hothraxxa has joined #evilhack 10:30 k2: help! 10:30 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4000 (0:26:36) 10:31 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:31 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 10:31 wassup? 10:32 there 10:32 are you on fire? stop drop and roll 10:32 i just restored my game and the numpad is behaving strangely 10:33 the 7-9-1-3 keys work as they should but 8-4-6-2 give weird results 10:33 restored? you had a crash? 10:33 no i had saved 10:33 ah 10:33 tried saving and restoring again 10:34 tried all the various numpad settings 10:34 still buggered 10:34 * hothraxxa accuses k2 of channeling amybsod 10:34 ah, the numpad trap! 10:35 slex had one. more than one variety iirc 10:35 i would never mess with numpad like that 10:36 well sure, you say that 10:36 numpad is working fine for me 10:36 problem is most likely on your end 10:36 tried turning numlock on and off 10:36 what else could it be 10:37 what is your numpad setting 10:37 in game 10:37 besides i expected it would work for you 10:37 1 10:37 same here 10:37 now. i tired all the settings 10:37 and what happens if you fire up splicehack or something 10:37 vi-keys works :( 10:38 mobileuser: that would require me to start a different game and i would rather not do that 10:38 just as a scummed game 10:38 * hothraxxa recoils in horror 10:38 splicehack is not supported anyway :-) 10:40 here's something you can do - open up notepad or whatever, type your numpad keys in it and see what comes back 10:40 also, how are you connecting to hdf? 10:40 kitty right? 10:40 tried thta, works fine. i am using kitty 10:41 i didn't log on again or anything. i just saved and restored immediately. was working before i saved 10:41 in kitty setting, go to terminal->keyboard 10:41 what do you have for 'application keypad settings' ? 10:42 also, i would exit completely out of dgl/kitty, restart the kitty application and see how it behaves 10:43 could also open up the windows terminal and conenct that way and see how it behaves 10:43 just to see 10:44 ok i had to step away 10:44 i'll try exiting completely 10:45 btw kitty keyboard settings are normal 10:46 k 10:46 starting a new session doesn't work 10:47 connect via other means and see 10:47 yeah 10:47 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 10:48 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5367 (0:44:28) 10:50 i've connected with both my account and my test account, via terminal (kitty) and hterm. numpad is working fine under all scenarios 10:51 yeah i expected that 10:51 so if i ssh in from my linux session everything is fine 10:51 ok 10:51 so this is pointing back to kitty somehow acting up 10:51 yeah 10:51 what version of kitty you using? 10:52 0.76.1.12 is the latest version 10:52 checking that 10:54 it's old. i'll update 10:54 odd that it would just sudden ly misbehave 10:54 * K2 nods 10:56 congrats hothraxxa, I just noticed on the NHS z-scores page, you have asc all variants 10:57 ty 10:58 I love these shopkeepers. "Aloha, jerk!" 11:00 heh 11:00 From all my experience of dying in the earlygame I can say that as a Tourist, if you get down to around -5 AC, you're usually okay taking on the Goblin King. 11:01 range attacks go a long way with him 11:01 he's not that tough in the grand scheme of things, but to a low level player, need to take him seriously 11:01 Yep--I try to save my darts for him. I've managed to kill him with worse AC because I filled him with darts before he got to me. 11:01 ^ this is the way 11:02 no joy with mew kitty :( 11:02 goblin king is a skill check of sorts 11:02 gotta know your ranged attacks 11:03 and/or AC/damage thresholds 11:03 hothraxxa ugh wtf 11:03 Of course sometimes he had an offensive wand in his chest and whenever that happens, I usually run away, regroup and make him waste his wand zaps. 11:04 i am juggling too many problems here. i'll have to come back to this 11:05 Ah, this time Goblin Town has a shop. I like how shopkeepers are more angry that you break their locked door than when you pick your way in. 11:06 my issues started in the goblin town shop so be careful 11:06 A lock-picking customer is an eager customer 11:08 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09 Almost feels like dealing with fae from the folklore. They have rules that they and you need to abide by. Like some of these guys just want to kill me but I haven't done anything wrong so they're just grumbling instead as I buy/pet-shoplift things. 11:10 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 11:12 -!- alivernine has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:13 -!- hothraxxa has joined #evilhack 11:13 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 11:14 fuck me. reboot does not cure the problem 11:15 k2: numpad problem i saw earlier? i got it too, using putty, no update -- difference in behavior on hardfought between last night and this morning 11:15 middle row of numpad misbehaving 11:16 so hothraxxa, this is something server-side 11:16 curious - what do each of you use for 'terminal type-string' ? 11:16 found in 'connection -> data' 11:16 Oh, early throne genocide. I've never gotten one this early in EvilHack. I have no idea what to pick. 11:16 xterm 11:16 switch that to xterm-256color 11:17 no change 11:17 alivernine - gelatinous cube is an early fav 11:17 Alrighty. 11:17 using xterm as well 11:17 btw fired up zapm because i don't care about scumming zapm. everything works fine 11:17 did the binary change in the last 14 hours? 11:18 no but the terminfo did 11:18 this morning 11:18 we were fixing an issue with hterm 11:18 yeah ok that is it 11:18 switch to zterm-256color and restart your app 11:18 *xterm-256color 11:19 no change 11:19 why am i not having any issues then? 11:19 you're special 11:20 maybe because i didnt have an existing game? 11:20 getting the same if i use putty 11:20 try a new game 11:20 well i did try zapm and as i said, numpad works 11:21 in vanilla with xterm-256color only diagonal numpad movement works 11:21 with a new game 11:21 oh hey 11:22 both of you - curses or regular tty? 11:22 diagonal works in my existing game 11:22 curses 11:22 curses 11:22 of course 11:22 Curses! 11:22 try regular tty 11:22 ughg 11:22 blrgfhfg 11:23 nope 11:23 same issue 11:23 and curses mode is working fine for me 11:23 fixes it for me 11:23 wow 11:23 so that's helpful 11:23 ah sorry had to toggle numpad, fixes without curses 11:23 ah ok 11:24 numpad curses was working fine for me just now 11:24 are you both still on xterm or xterm-256color? 11:24 xterm-256color 11:24 i'm on putty as it runs out 11:24 ok... and that's what everyone really should be using imo 11:25 xterm-256color 11:25 numpad 6 maps to <, 2 to =, 4 to ; and 8 to , as far as i can tell 11:25 ugh 11:26 same here 11:26 server needs a reboot anyways (kernel update), i'll do that tonight to see if that helps at all 11:26 off but if i turn off numpad, same thing 11:26 er odd not off 11:26 doh -- guess no evilhacking today 11:26 just play in tty mode 11:27 how does one log out 11:27 are you kidding? ugh 11:27 yeah not doing that 11:28 is this just an evilhack problem? one wonders... 11:29 presumably not 11:30 no it wouldnt be just evilhack 11:31 hterm updates to eu and au also? 11:31 yes 11:31 alas i see 11:32 au chroot didnt have its terminfo updated because that server was upgraded completely a couple weeks ago 11:32 hdf-eu and us had old terminfo data in the chroot vs the OS 11:32 so i got them both current 11:33 i would not have expected doing that to mess with numpad? 11:33 weird 11:33 as expected problem exists in vanilla 11:33 i still think both of you should try a new game, use a junk account if need be 11:34 i just did 11:34 oh wtf 11:34 new game shouldnt change anything 11:34 tried evil and vanilla 11:34 curses mode correct? 11:34 yes 11:34 this is doubtless part of the great curses ESC + other key for numpad adventure 11:35 so if you changed how ESC is processed it would break the numpad 11:35 try reading a scroll of remove curse to remove curses 11:35 only up down left right have real keycodes in curses 11:36 my omghax saved game in curses mode, i can only move diagonal 11:36 numpad 11:36 inverse grid bug conduct 11:37 switch to tty, fine 11:37 ^ 370-hdf 11:38 yeah curses evilhack is borked too 11:38 numpad 11:38 errmahgerd 11:39 you know how that crap works? when curses gets an ESC it consults escdelay setting to see how long to wait in case it is part of a sequence (which means responsiveness to the esc key is weird, cuz of delay) 11:40 i wonder if putty lets me customize that setting 11:40 i don't know how much of a clue this is, but my game was fine this morning until i saved and reloaded 11:41 curses has values for the diagonals that are doubtless being used directly (KEY_END) etc but presumably not doing that for KEY_RIGHT, etc 11:42 i wont say it is impossible because nothing is impossible with old enough code but i'd be very surprised if old game/new game had anything to do with curses numpad processing after terminal update 11:42 just reporting the facts 11:43 you can of course use the numpad just for diagonals and use the arrow keys for the cardinal directions and things will work fine 11:43 i was playing for a while. i think i even did at least one previous save/reload 11:43 it would have been when i updated terminfo on the server chroot 11:43 which wasnt that long ago 11:43 well 11:43 a lil over 2 hrs ago 11:43 yeah happened some time after 9pm est yesterday 11:44 2 hrs seems about right 11:46 yeah arrow keys work for up/down/left/right 11:47 awkward to use though 11:47 yup, those sending KEY_RIGHT, etc instead of the ESC sequence 11:47 i remember noticing this behavior a long time ago on my wizmode box. of course its been using the latest and greatest terminfo, not in a chroot 11:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:21558 (4:29:38) 11:47 and now all the servers terminfo (chroot) are current... 11:48 as it should be technically 11:48 gonna try some more things 11:49 where "current" means "broken" 11:49 well it means curses mode in multiple variants is broken 11:49 not keeping up with changes to terminfo 11:50 curses is such a flustercluck hothraxxa it is no surprise it causes issues every time anything else is touched 11:50 i started using ncurses for something last year and had to write my own backingstore instead of uses its own because of all the errors 11:52 switching terminal type string to 'linux' makes numpad behave 11:52 but line drawing is all fucked up 11:53 i was trying that but it did not fix the problem plus it fucked up the linedrawing 11:53 same with other values 11:53 brb 11:53 hmmm 11:53 I suspect that the curses_convert_keys() is a workaround for the arrow keys but not for the numpad keys. 11:54 the arrow keys dont need workarounds, they transmit their own values 11:54 oh, you mean for the carindal numpad keys 11:55 that routine looks like it handles all 8 directional numpad keys, but only 4 of them arent working now 11:56 just a thought, can't really verifiy it at the moment. the new terminfo sending special keys (or a special ESC + something combination?) for numpad keys now? 11:56 probably something in "infocmp -L1 | grep key_ | sort" changed 11:57 TERM=linux has a lot less key entries 11:57 ok. for putty/kitty: switch terminal string to linux. go to keyboard setting, set finction keys and keypad to linux 11:57 everything seems to work including line drawing 11:58 correct typos as required 11:58 arrow keys are cursor_(up,down,left,right) though 11:59 wtf? now it doesn't :( 11:59 how can this happen? 11:59 hothraxxa, i just tried that and it works for me 11:59 strike my last message, that was wrong 12:00 well it was working for me but now everything is broken 12:00 not sure what happened here 12:00 in the same session? 12:00 yeaj 12:00 oh wait it was a network glitch 12:01 my line drawing was borked because i was using CP437 (curses) 12:01 switched to utf8 / linux for terminal type string, numpad behaves, lines look good 12:02 i'm fine now using the linux change 12:03 i have no idea if that has other implications 12:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:03 hothraxxa fyi there's a specific 'xterm-kitty' terminal type string you can use 12:04 it appears to work well also 12:04 you don't need to change keyboard settings, linux seems to be sufficient in and of itself 12:04 that's the only custom terminal type string installed on the servers 12:04 krm26 correct 12:04 hmm, there is also a putty256 setting i guess i could try on putty 12:04 ok 12:04 i'll try the xterm-kitty trick 12:04 TERM=linux gives you only 8 colors though 12:05 true 12:05 not sure on the color depth for xterm-kitty 12:05 i could fire up unnethack and see 12:06 xterm-kitty uses 256 colors 12:06 yes i just deduced that 12:06 bhaak added this cool debug function to unnethack, #showcolors 12:07 putty-256color has the same issue as xterm 12:09 ok so 1) sorry I broke your shit 2) minor crisis averted for now hopefully 12:09 at least we came up with a fix 12:10 true 12:10 now my tortle healer will die happy 12:10 also, fuck orc riders in goblin town. wtf were you thinking k2? 12:11 its just random spawn 12:11 they dont spawn there on purpose 12:11 as in when you enter the map 12:11 well you say that 12:11 i do say that 12:11 cuz i wrote the map :) 12:12 is this a fixed map? 12:12 yes 12:12 this orc shopkeeper doesn't even like me 12:12 i like you fwiw 12:13 well you say that 12:14 btw was it you who said your daughter liked my maui ocean center sea turtle talk? 12:14 somebody did 12:14 yes 12:14 ah. been driving me nuts 12:14 we're planning a trip back to hawaii someday 12:15 sadly will never happen for us 12:15 not this year or next, hopefully year after 12:15 2025 12:15 before the oceans boil 12:15 no kidding 12:15 molokini crater 12:15 i really want to revisit that place 12:15 loved diving there 12:16 it is spectacular 12:16 if you go to maui be sure to visit moc 12:17 crap all this armour i can't use :( 12:18 !whereis hothraxxa 12:18 K2: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [evil]: (Hea Trt Fem Neu) T:5844 Goblin Town level: 3 12:18 ah tortle 12:18 i suspect tortle healer would be the ultimate pacifist 12:19 three dead pets so far 12:19 i blame their owner 12:19 might as well be a pacifist for all the damage i can do with this aklys 12:19 i don't think evilhack pacifist will ever be a thing 12:19 someday maybe 12:20 did i ever tell you about my encounter with a pair of cuttlefish at the crater? 12:20 don't think so 12:20 they are incredibly beautiful 12:20 well i think so anyway 12:20 so we're swimming back to shallow water, gently rising slope. we're about 20-25 ft deep at this point 12:21 a pair of cuttelfish were swimming on the ocean floor to our left coming across our path, we intersected 12:21 we stopped, they stopped 12:21 just hanging out 12:21 i swam a bit closer and held up my hand 12:22 one of the pair mimiced what I did 12:22 mimicked 12:22 sp 12:22 whatever 12:22 that sounds pretty neat 12:23 so them I did the horns sign 12:23 mimiced me again 12:23 haha 12:23 did middle finger, it did the same with just one tentacle 12:23 the whole time we're doing this, there was a massive rapid fire amount of colors flashing across both their skins 12:24 they were prob chatting to each other 'who tf is this guy?' 12:24 yes1 that's why i say they're beautiful 12:24 i agree 12:24 wholeheartedly 12:24 you should see one at night. just incredible 12:24 so i backed off and motioned my hand/arm to the right, indicating 'you can go ahead' 12:24 and they did 12:24 -!- alivernine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:25 and thta was it 12:25 heh 12:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 249676 points, T:24361, killed by a soldier ant 12:25 what agreat experience 12:25 oh yeah 12:25 that memory will stick with me for sure 12:25 wish i had had a camera with 12:26 cuttlefish, octopus - wicked smart animals 12:26 when i was in barcelona last month we got to go behind the scenes and they had two tanks with teeny weeny 1cm long baby cuttlefish 12:26 sooo cute 12:26 heh 12:27 there's only one time my wife and i went into the water without a camera 12:27 there's a scifi story i read a long time ago where a group of scientists were experimenting with a colony of cuttlefish trying to develop their brains. cuttlefish became so smart they developed interstellar travel and left 12:27 ^ very watered down version 12:27 that's what i'd do 12:27 so this one day we thought, no cameras just dive 12:28 what happened? we saw a loggerhead turtle 12:28 oh man 12:28 incredibly rare sighting in hawaii 12:28 only one we ever saw 12:28 never went without a camera again 12:29 :) 12:29 ugh, underwater photography is such a headache! always fun to have one of those crazies along on a dive but i'd never do it myself 12:29 why such a headache? 12:30 futzing with the gear... staking out one place on a reef and sitting there for the perfect shot of something... 12:30 no no you're doing it wrong 12:30 i'd rather be sleeping with the boat dogs after a dive then cleaning all my photography gear 12:30 * hothraxxa shakes his head 12:30 although maybe technology has marched on since the 90s 12:32 well it has 12:32 i'd say about two thirds of the pics in our book were taken with 90s tech cameras though 12:37 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Odin, on T:68162 (1 day, 0:31:58) 12:47 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 12:47 Got gifted Mjollnir and Cleaver! Not sure if I should forge Tempest tho. My valk is unskilled at polearms. 12:48 can always blessed amnesia and reallocate skill slots 12:49 ooooh did not know that 12:49 make sure your int is at least 15 12:50 is tempest popular for valk tho 12:50 13 12:51 thx for correction k2 12:51 i don't know if anyone has made and used tempest yet 12:51 i'm not sure i'd be that interested in it as a valk 12:51 1, 2, 5.... no, 3! 12:51 unless maybe a giant dual-wielding valk 13:00 -!- Demo1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00 -!- Demo has joined #evilhack 13:06 Tourist caught a lucky break and found a blessed magic lamp, so now I have -17 AC which means I'm not completely helpless anymore. 13:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) wished for "20 blessed +3 silver arrows", on T:62872 (22:43:00) 13:06 I was hoarding scrolls but a gnomish wizard blew them and my holy water up, so now that I killed a hobbit for his bag I'm hiding them in there. 13:07 yeah, dangerous carrying around potions and scrolls before you get a bag 13:08 My tourist also got poisoned multiple times by various sources! Fun... 13:08 good early wish is green dragon scales, saves the poisoning problem 13:16 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 13:16 i miss my 8 extra colors using linux term :-( 13:16 use xterm-kitty 13:23 oh duh 13:23 didn't even consider it since using putty but obv that is the answer :-) 13:37 "Ahhhh! Eggs! She has eggs!!" The rock gnome screams in terror! 13:37 what is this? 13:38 i do have an egg 13:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Fem Una), 4970 points, T:4126, killed by a fire ant 13:48 you bastard hothraxxa, torturing gnomes like that! 13:56 i'm teamsplat. of course i have eggs. 13:56 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/8feb19f4ec97a9c575a978d1cd9e5bfe13919666 13:56 ^ hothraxxa 13:56 there are some tweaks after the fact 13:57 such as, hitting a gnome with a regular egg has a chance to cancel it 13:57 ah i see 13:58 you'd think the orcs in goblintown would kill this grey elf but nooooo 13:58 grey elf is prob too tough 13:58 * hothraxxa needs a hat 13:59 they got a woodland elf for me but the poor sap must have been naked 13:59 i think i've only seen one player utilize the quiet advantage i placed in goblintown 14:00 hrm 14:00 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 14:00 you see it? 14:01 Hi K2 and all - I was in the middle of typing out a monster for a genocide scroll when my computer crashed.  I haven't gotten back into my session.  Any way to see if the scroll is still in my inventory so I can re-read it? 14:02 vecna's is pretty rough without free action 14:02 no, you'd just have to log back in to your game 14:02 Ok, it'll recover and I'll check. 14:02 i wouldn't get your hopes up 14:02 k2: frayed knot 14:02 Hmmm, no scroll of genocide.  Alas. 14:03 if you free some of the prisoner elves, they'll help you fight the goblin king 14:03 elf/orc grudge and all that 14:04 afaik loggers is the only person to have used that strategy 14:04 -!- alivernine has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:05 oh. that's wht i have been doing 14:05 luring the orcs 14:05 reason being a) elves will kill orcs and b) dead elf might equal a hat 14:06 so the correct answer to your question is yes, i did see that 14:06 \o/ 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a shito entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:11307 (2:01:30) 14:07 this grey elf is back up to 33hp. maybe i can ger her to fight the goblin king 14:08 although ac 10 so if she has a hat it's just a hat 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Sam Gia Fem Law), 18064 points, T:11314, quit 14:08 the prisoners dont spawn with gear. they're prisoners 14:08 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:08 they could still death drop 14:09 yeah but $thing could be anything 14:09 yup 14:09 wand of wishing, magic lamp.... 14:09 heh 14:09 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 14:09 no magic marker i bet 14:11 i think she's taking on the goblin king 14:12 definitely fighting goblin king 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:7305 (4:09:26) 14:16 oh jeez -- i almost swung on a black dragon with my gauntlets of purity 14:16 she softened him up 14:17 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 14:18 yay 14:21 -!- alivernine has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:21 i love purity as monk but really regret not being able to melee black dragons 14:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:65648 (1 day, 0:06:24) 14:34 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Trt Fem Neu) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:8252 (4:35:50) 14:43 well 14:43 better than a leather cloak i guess 14:44 or a tinfoil hat 14:46 an egg! now i have two 14:46 tinfoil hat of Qanon ftw 14:46 watch out gnomes 14:48 The war club hits! Lightning strikes the baby owlbear! 14:48 ok i didn't know it did that 14:49 i owe hermes an apology 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:31262 (5:11:15) 14:52 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:52 -!- terrapin_ has joined #evilhack 14:53 -!- terrapin_ is now known as terrapin 14:58 -!- terracotta has joined #evilhack 14:58 -!- terrapin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01 hrm 15:01 if i somehow turn invisible i'm screwed for shops 15:01 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 15:02 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03 cursed wand of invis 15:04 or just play ^mgc lottery 15:04 yeah. no. 15:04 why not? if the shop is important, aren't many downsides from it. some extra stuff to kill 15:06 -!- terracotta has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:06 hah 15:07 you assume i can kill stuff 15:07 -!- terracotta has joined #evilhack 15:07 anyway i hope not to have the problem but this is evilhack 15:08 yeah my giants traditionally turn invisible before i'm ready 15:08 it was just a thought that occurred to me after i killed a mummy and realized i can't wear a mummy wrapping 15:08 -!- alivernine has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:09 also i prayed on hermes' altar and he didn't restore my int 15:09 so i take back my apolohy 15:09 apology 15:09 the gods, they are douche supremes 15:10 i particularly like it when they give me dragonbane (yay) and follow it up with 3 more pairs of plain leather gloves 15:10 *french kiss* 15:10 the stupid elf zobie also ate my stone to flesh spell 15:12 mmm yeah the skill/spell eating is el primo 15:13 down to int 4 15:13 this game is in the toilet 15:13 club skill lost 15:14 int 3 15:14 can't pray, no etxra healing left 15:15 -!- terrafirma has joined #evilhack 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] hothraxxa (Hea Trt Fem Neu), 11304 points, T:8995, diseased by an orc zombie, while sleeping 15:16 -!- terrafirma has quit [Client Quit] 15:17 you should play evilhack again, he said. it's changed a lot, he said. 15:17 -!- terracotta has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:17 it has 15:17 bah 15:17 i'm dead, dude 15:18 that's no change at all :( 15:18 you're gotten soft, used to easier variants 15:18 :P 15:18 true, like hackem 15:19 it has changed though. you have drow zombies now 15:19 you cant have a couple deaths in a row and get butt hurt. try again 15:19 oh can't i? 15:20 no hothraxxa! you can do it! 15:20 tortle is hard mode, to ease back into evilhack -- and especially to avoid zombie troubles -- do drow 15:20 i suppose playing a tortle healer is pretty masochistic 15:20 when you can see em coming, who cares 15:21 yes, tortle is the hardest race, and healer is one of the hardest early-game roles 15:21 drow rogue will never have to worry about zombies. or drow knight 15:21 the problem is that i have a long tradation of playing healers (have the first gnome healer in many variants) and as k2 well knows, i have a deep connection with turtles 15:22 er 15:22 tradition 15:22 yup 15:22 well, tortles aren't impossible. merely unpossible 15:22 so the temptation is extremely great 15:22 you know full well that if you stick to it, you'll asc a healer tortle 15:22 but you've already ascended healers. what about a nice convict! 15:22 lol 15:23 i mean look at loggers. he eventually got his convict drow asc 15:23 easiest tortle has gotta be monk, and i see no monk ascensions for you yet 15:23 that would be fun 15:24 oh gawd 15:24 i mean, even *i* have ascended a tortle monk. i don't think i bitched and moaned while doing it more than 8 or 9 times a turn, and it only took me about 85k turns 15:24 i had the first TWO giant monks to reach astral 15:24 both splatted 15:24 it is the stop at the end that gets you 15:25 this was before k2 added gauntlets of protection, and a giant couldn't get mc3 15:26 that was what got me both times because the rider's mounts special attacks just overwhelmed me 15:27 anyway i see terrapin did an arc tortle and loggers did a tourist 15:30 there's only a couple 1st to asc tortle combos left 15:30 healer being one 15:31 i know 15:31 that's because malor doesn't play evilhack 15:31 yet 15:32 :) 15:34 most tortle ascensions had ashmar. i didn't think it was that easy to get both ogresmasher and trollsbane 15:35 as a healer you're not going to want to wear a shield 15:35 because casting and wielding your quest artifact 15:35 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:36 that was not lost on me 15:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Mal Una), 1268 points, T:1852, killed by a piranha 15:37 you could though... there are other weapons that might fit your role 15:37 in hackem i wielded vorpal blade a lot 15:38 also the healer's first sacrifice gift is the drowsing rod so i had a superb 1-2 15:38 you can get skilled in trident - angelslayer isnt hard to come by 15:38 the staff is great but it has shitty dmamge 15:39 argh 15:39 damage 15:39 yeah... trident 15:39 that weapon is so underrated 15:39 ah well, you're not a noob. you do you :) 15:40 angelslayer is fanfrickingtastic 15:41 i can be a noob 15:43 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 15:45 eoto defeats vecna, right? 15:46 help out a poor noob. what's eoto? 15:46 monk eyes 15:46 oh right 15:47 i think they were fixed to prevent everything but medusa and maybe some beholder attacks? 15:48 the EotO wont protect you against medusa's gaze. it will greatly lessen the effects of the deadly gazes from a beholder 15:48 vecna's death gaze, no 15:48 only your dick turns to stone 15:48 but what if it already is 15:48 you know... stone 15:49 damn, so i need both a towel AND a source of mr for vecna 15:49 really wish you could wrap a towel over the eyes 15:49 dont you have the GoPur? 15:49 i do 15:49 immune to death magic 15:49 oh is his gaze a deathy thing 15:49 si 15:49 ok cool, so no towel for hi 15:49 m 15:56 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 15:57 oh crap 15:57 I have this nearly 5 day old game, i dont quite remember what was going on 16:01 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2623 (0:27:43) 16:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:880 (0:18:05) 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2970 (0:32:39) 16:09 green elf assist 16:10 k2: whitespace typo after alhoon touch of death. "Oh no etc death! You__are unaffected." 16:10 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 16:10 (two spaces not two underscores :-) 16:10 oh weird 16:10 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 16:11 added to tracker 16:11 wow that alhoon ate 20 spells from me in no time at all 16:11 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 16:13 x@xnethack 16:13 elon is among us 16:13 oh no 16:13 you went there 16:14 i'll send you an x 16:15 i guess you don't send people x's do you. you just post your x and hope people will re-x it 16:18 alrighty i gotta go, back soonish 16:18 hothraxxa <3 16:23 -!- Graznop_ has joined #evilhack 16:23 -!- Graznop is now known as Guest1343 16:23 -!- Guest1343 has quit [Killed (platinum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 16:23 -!- Graznop_ is now known as Graznop 16:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:68894 (1 day, 2:06:03) 16:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Fem Una), 1840 points, T:1858, killed by a giant mimic 16:54 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:70161 (1 day, 2:33:08) 16:57 wtf woke up vecna omigod 17:00 i think he would have smoked me if he hadn't summoned 20 insects to pad everything out 17:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:70207 (1 day, 2:35:52) 17:09 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:12 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 17:13 i find it creepy when pet dragons pick up leftover dragon scales from their fellows 17:13 are they grieving? 17:19 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:21 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 17:25 Hi - I was able to roll boulder E diagonally on level 1A just now.  That's a first ! 17:27 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:70870 (1 day, 3:07:17) 17:40 -!- Graznop has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 17:58 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 18:00 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 18:05 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 131 points, T:746, killed by a goblin 18:10 level 1a? you mean in sokoban? before it was solved? 18:17 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:22 no it would have had to been solved first 18:48 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 925 points, T:1664, killed by an enormous rat 19:24 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 19:48 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:55 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:04 so some more info on the curses terminfo stuff 20:05 turns out the numpad issue only occurs for those using putty and its forks on windows when selecting curses mode 20:06 Tangles curses/numpad behavior was fine using xterm-256color via gnome-terminal 20:06 also, using hterm is fine (it exclusively uses xterm-256color) 20:06 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 20:07 and ssh via windows terminal is fine too 20:07 in fact this looks better than I thought it would, wow... 20:12 oh wow i think i figured it out 20:13 krm26, hothraxxa either of you here? 20:14 \o/ 20:15 in putty/kitty: in settings, go to Terminal -> Features -> put a check in the box for 'Disable application keypad mode' 20:15 and you can switch back to xterm-256color 20:15 or just xterm or whichever you prefer 20:20 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 20:21 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 20:27 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:30 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3159 (1:01:37) 20:31 K2: late but I've used prisoners to fight the Goblin King once or twice 20:31 nice 20:34 k2 -- back, will check it out 20:35 that does the trick! 20:37 Yes, it annoys me no end that Putty is in many ways the best ssh client for Windows that doesn't require an entire POSIX environment (like WSL or Cygwin). There is also Mobaxterm, but it's so much more than just a terminal/ssh client. 20:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Fem Una), 2792 points, T:3218, killed by a giant bat 20:38 You ask the people behind other terminals to consider a Windows port, and they go "You don't want [the terminal], you want bash, go get that." Which is just dumb. 20:38 Because yes, bash is also useful, but it is not in any way shape or form a substitute for Putty. 20:39 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 20:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:567 (0:09:00) 20:52 K2: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/800 20:52 How does this look for the Archbishop page so far 20:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:974 (0:15:58) 20:58 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 20:59 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 21:04 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.0.2] 21:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:72131 (1 day, 4:52:09) 21:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:72131 (1 day, 4:52:15) 21:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Fem Una), 1538 points, T:1816, killed by a wand 21:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Fem Una), 32 points, T:65, killed by a goblin 21:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:72372 (1 day, 5:01:27) 21:23 -!- eggandhu1l has joined #evilhack 21:25 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:31 -!- eggandhu1l has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:34 thats fine 21:34 you dont have to run everything by me, just post it :) 21:36 donezo 21:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Hello", on T:3653 (0:22:56) 21:51 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 21:54 -!- alivernine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:59 if anyone else comes by having issues with the numpad/curses bit, can show them this - https://redd.it/15bk890 22:03 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:05 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 22:05 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 22:06 After several more dead Tourists, this Tourist accidentally angered the Minetown watch by kicking in a door. One of the shopkeepers had a magic lamp though so I weaved around, went to the shop, bought the lamp and absconded. 22:07 He's already been quite lucky so far to have found several magic items like a cloak of protection, cloak of displacement, jumping boots, water walking boots and an alchemy smock. 22:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 22:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 22:09 hey k2 are you around 22:09 Ah, and gauntlets of power and the good old amulet of life saving. 22:11 yeah 22:11 alivernine nice \o/ 22:11 oh good 22:11 my game is really fucked up 22:11 idk why 22:12 can you elaborate 22:12 don't really know how to explain this could you spectate me 22:12 are you in curses mode? 22:12 yes 22:12 do you use putty/kitty/etc? 22:13 no 22:13 ok 22:13 i'm just in the web term 22:13 oh i see 22:13 what browser? 22:13 chrome 22:14 save your game, clear your browser cache 22:14 k 22:14 we did a fix for some display issues in hterm the other day 22:14 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:15 Hm. I did find a scroll of scare monster and in one of my previous runs, that saved the life of a tourist who got polymorph trapped into a mosquito. 22:16 I think a dragonhide helm of speed is a good wish since I already have magic boots and magic cloaks, but I still do want magic res or reflection. 22:17 hmm crap 22:18 now line drawing in curses mode in hterm for 3.6 games is borked 22:18 prob 3.4.3 based too 22:18 3.7 is fine 22:20 yup... 22:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:8103 (0:54:33) 22:22 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:8306 (0:56:25) 22:26 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 22:26 loggers sorry 22:26 that doesnt work 22:26 oh that's a relief I thought I was doing something wrong lol 22:27 what OS are you using 22:28 uh 22:28 mac os x yosemite? 22:28 are you on a computer :) 22:28 yes :) 22:28 macos ok 22:29 you could use terminal in macos 22:29 yea 22:30 shit brb 22:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 22:35 so 3.7 doesnt have this problem in curses/hterm 22:35 neither does unnethack 22:36 i'm gonna need to make some curses updates to evilhack 22:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:10069 (1:17:41) 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed the invisible k3ut0i's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:10278 (1:21:43) 23:11 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 23:16 Ah, an early ring of conflict. Waltzed into the Sokoban zoo with a measly -9 AC and the problem solved itself. 23:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 23:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a copper saber entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:12309 (1:58:41) 23:26 Nice to hear you're making progress 23:27 I do apologize for filling up chat with my ramblings. 23:29 Nah you're fine, I like to "livelog" my own games now and then 23:30 it's fun to hear people talk about their games you're ok 23:31 !who 23:31 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] eggandhull [evil] Nightsorrow [evil] xialg [evil] :: [hdf-eu] k2 [evil] :: [hdf-au] No current players 23:35 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:35 gnite all 23:36 Night K2 23:37 cya k2 o/ 23:37 There should be a nice surprise on the wiki when you wake up 23:38 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 23:39 Wait, killing pets that turned hostile when they went tame abuses alignment? 23:39 *untame 23:41 uhhh if it happened then probably 23:42 sounds weird but pets are weird 23:42 What pet was it, and are you sure it was actually untame? 23:42 Or was it just confused from hunger? 23:42 (or any other source of confusion) 23:44 I checked my conduct and it says I "seriously abused" my alignment which worries me as I don't recall having attacked peaceful monsters unless it was during conflict in Sokoban. 23:46 Peaceful monsters under conflict are still peaceful 23:46 Same applies for pets 23:46 Incidentally, did you remove your source of conflict? 23:46 I did remove the conflict after the zoo was clear, though I suspect that I whacked some monsters that would've been peaceful in the zoo if not for conflict. 23:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14607 (2:20:29) 23:48 if you've seriously abused your alignment you'll likely have to kill twoflower at the end of the quest 23:49 Welp, guess I'll have to prep some more before taking on the quest. What sorts of consequences will I have to deal with at Astral? 23:49 I recall that "interesting things" can happen if you attempt to use a helm of opposite alignment with a serious abuse record. 23:50 I don't know about that 23:51 Oh that has nothing to do with alignment abuse 23:51 Loggers_VIII curses mode hterm should play nice now 23:51 last thing to do before i went to bed hah 23:51 thanks k2 <3 23:52 Does getting peaceful monsters killed by conflict also count as abuse? 23:53 if they're killed by another monster, I don't think so 23:56 okay alivernine the "interesting things" that happen is that if you try and sac the amulet to a god that isn't yours with a HooA, the helm is destroyed, and you get -5 alignment and -5 luck, and your god is angered for good measuer 23:56 this thievery skill is pretty cool. Saved my bacon stealing the heavy armor off a foe. 23:56 as far as I can tell, this isn't affected by stuff like killing quest leaders or seriously abusing your alignment 23:56 thievery is very fun 23:56 you playing convict or rogue? 23:56 Aaah. So alignment abuse overall is bad, but it isn't a run ender. 23:57 And I will have to live with the fact that this incarnation of my tourist is apparently evil. 23:57 totally going to strip those player monsters of their highly enchanted gear when I meet them 23:57 yeah, the big thing is that you'll have to either fight the quest leader (doable) or give the quest arti back (inconceivable) 23:58 I do like Twoflower. :C But I like the PYEC more. 23:58 and when you kill the quest leader your god gets pissed and you have to altar camp a little to get them happy again 23:58 lol 23:58 could always poly into a nymph or something 23:59 I think if you gave it back to him, poly'd into a nymph and stole it back your quest is still flagged as complete, plus you don't piss off your god 23:59 but seems like a lot of work 23:59 I did find a polymorph ring so I guess all I have to do is find a poly control ring, poly, then steal the card back?