00:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:10 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:14 eggandhull - pets wont eat unless they're actually hungry. exception to this rule, is if you throw them a food itme/corpse that they consider to be a treat 00:14 this includes stuff that gives intrinsics 00:15 in vanilla nethack and most variants, pets will just about eat every corpse available immediately 00:16 Oh, speaking of pets 00:17 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/dog.c#L844 00:17 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/dog.c#L818 00:18 yeah 00:19 Is the correct read of the linked lines that metallivores other than rust monsters treat any metallic object as a treat? 00:19 And that rust monsters do the same for rustable iron objects 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7957 (2:17:13) 00:21 all metallivores treat rustable iron objects as treats. additionally, rust monsters will eat fixed iron objects and other metallivores will eat any metal objects, but won't consider them treats 00:22 I see 00:22 and tins? 00:23 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Treat 00:23 acceptable food but not treat-worthy 00:23 for all metallivores 00:25 Seems like this mines end is a bunch of sewage 00:26 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest8128 00:26 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:28 eggandhull: how'd your date with Aphrodite go? 00:29 -!- Guest8128 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:32 bouquet: a c appeared and stoned her 00:32 but now i'm fighting the rat king and kept missing...... 00:33 paralysis + free action i guess? 00:33 ranged attacks help against his displacement 00:33 pretty sure you'll still miss a bunch when he's paralyzed 00:33 but yeah, it's better, than nothing 00:33 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 00:34 The scimitar infects you. 00:34 fuck 00:34 it's just poison, even though it sounds kind of sickness-y 00:35 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:30667 (9:13:16) 00:35 wiki says "its bite can cause lycanthropy, "?? 00:36 Yes, the Rat King is a wererat 00:37 i don't see "you feel feverish" 00:37 then you didn't catch lycanthropy 00:37 it's not 100% every bite lol 00:39 nice 00:39 how do i access the 3 chests room? searched around and couldn't find secret door 00:40 teleport traps in the corners 00:40 and a *lot* of patience 00:40 wait how do i tele out then... 00:40 zap wand at self? 00:41 another teleport trap in the closet (lower left corner) 00:41 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:45 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:31288 (9:23:47) 00:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:6963 (1:36:36) 00:48 that minesend is such a pain. I usually go back when I find tele control 00:49 I hate the sewage more than anything else 00:49 The teleporters I can make do with 00:52 I'm always a little hesitant to eat food rations I find in the sewage 00:53 lmao 00:57 shit 00:57 energy vortex 00:57 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 16513 points, T:7906, killed by a tortle shaman, while paralyzed by a monster 00:58 oh yeah terrapin, since artifact_touch is in that function is it safe to say metallivores respect artifact alignment? 00:59 (i.e. won't eat cross aligned stuff) 01:01 hum...I'm not seeing artifact_touch in dogfood() 01:01 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/mon.c#L892 01:01 This specifically 01:02 Tame metallivores skip that check but won't eat your quest artifact 01:02 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/dog.c#L744 01:02 wonder if the resist bit also catches artifacts 01:02 I was wondering primarily for non-tamed ones 01:03 yeah resists(obj, x, y) resists x% of the time for non-artifacts and y% of the time for artifacts 01:03 and yeah, looks like you're right about hostile ones 01:03 so tame ones'll just eat up any applicable object but avoid artifacts 95% of the time 01:04 looks like 01:04 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 01:07 What's a good main weapon for Valk? +0 mithril spear for now :( 01:07 I mean you have the pick of the litter, even spears can be p. good 01:07 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:11099 (3:04:19) 01:07 you get your long sword eaten or something? 01:07 terrapin, also looks like healing from eating metal only applies to non-tames 01:09 never found a longsword 01:10 i can forge 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (leocrottas), on T:11201 (3:06:51) 01:10 yeah seems pets are explicitly excluded 01:12 forging is awesome 01:13 maybe a mithril saber of venom? or steel if that's not an option. or a magical long sword if you have something other than the rat king's scimitar 01:13 ooh no trident of venom definitely 01:14 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:14 as always you can also nick stuff off monsters you kill 01:15 elven long swords are p. solid, and the soldiers are usu. good for weapons 01:17 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 01:18 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 18764 points, T:11478, killed by an orc-captain 01:24 wait wait wait 01:24 terrapin, does is_quest_artifact mean any quest arti 01:24 or just yours 01:26 just yours 01:27 ic 01:29 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/mon.c#L923 trying to figure out what this is all about too 01:29 @e?neothelid 01:29 neothelid (w) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: acid | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: special | AC: 2 | Atk: 6d6 breath acid, 2d4 tentacle physical, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 2d4 tentacle drain int, 6d6 engulf digest | Align: -8 | carnivore, swims, nopoly 01:32 found one in the wild? 01:34 -!- alivernine has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:36 huh 01:37 poly means they ate a chameleon/doppelganger/genetic engineer (are those in 3.6?), grow means they ate a wraith, heal means they ate a nurse 01:37 however, the newcham() call has the wrong number of parameters and I'm shocked that it compiles 01:37 assuming it does in fact compile; i haven't tried 01:38 oh it's an old version of the code, never mind 01:40 yeah this is latest stable 01:41 and this is all in the metallivore function 01:41 so ring of poly probably? 01:43 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:43 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4370 01:43 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 01:46 -!- Guest4370 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:46 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:47 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 01:51 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 01:56 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:57 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11101 (5:21:27) 02:08 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 02:09 terrapin -- oops i forgot to pick up rat king's loot 02:28 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 02:30 The voice of Odin booms: "Thou hast pleased me with thy progress," "and thus I grant thee the gift of my protection!" "Use it wisely in my name! 02:30 is this crowning? 02:31 No 02:31 It would explicitly say you were crowned 02:32 kk 02:40 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:43 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 02:47 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 03:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:06 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 03:20 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 03:26 YANI: Eating a K-ration says "K" 03:28 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 03:30 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 03:33 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest7826 03:33 -!- Guest7826 has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 03:33 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 03:33 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 03:34 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 03:44 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:00 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 04:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: [Umbire is killed! 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Umbire's medallion begins to glow!]] 04:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 04:15 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:23 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 04:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:33 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 04:37 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 05:23 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:24 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:00 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:03 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 749 points, T:989, killed by a goblin shaman 06:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 980 points, T:1395, killed by a housecat 06:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 414 points, T:509, killed by a large spider 06:34 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:1493 (0:05:11) 06:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2720 points, T:1776, killed by a soldier ant 06:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a gnomish wizard corpse, on T:3618 (0:29:59) 06:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) had 18 shuriken entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:3684 (0:31:27) 06:53 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3705 06:53 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 06:53 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:57 -!- Guest3705 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:38 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest6174 07:38 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:42 -!- Guest6174 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 23 points, T:70, killed by a newt 07:46 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1070 points, T:978, killed by a giant ant 07:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 57 points, T:111, killed by a goblin, while sleeping 07:51 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:03 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 08:12 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 547 points, T:1675, killed by a giant cockroach 08:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:9424 (1:41:05) 08:52 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:10298 (1:53:22) 09:12 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 222 points, T:627, killed by a large spider, while sleeping off a magical draught 09:14 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:14 -!- NetSysFire has joined #evilhack 09:34 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:40 Umbire question for you 09:40 what do you think would be the best way to consolidate this section - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Material_percentages 09:41 currently you have to scroll down quite a bit to read all of the material percentages data. didnt you make a way on other pages to put data in different horizontal tabs? 09:41 yeah the table I was working on kinda fell to the wayside, need to get back on that soonish 09:42 also paxed was the one who made simpletabs but it only works for 4 different tabs 09:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 09:53 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 09:56 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Val Dwa Fem Law), 141 points, T:501, killed by a boulder 09:58 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest9959 09:58 -!- Guest9959 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 09:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:03 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Val Hum Fem Law), 581 points, T:915, killed by a gnome lady 10:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:51 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest879 10:51 -!- Guest879 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 10:51 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 11:11 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4132 (0:36:07) 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:14701 (7:03:17) 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed silver-scaled +3 dragonhide armor", on T:5621 (0:47:17) 11:51 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 11:55 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Val Hum Fem Law) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:7134 (1:00:23) 11:56 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Val Hum Fem Law) was denied Excalibur! The Lady of the Lake has deemed her unworthy, on T:7166 (1:01:36) 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:15286 (3:24:01) 12:00 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Val Hum Fem Law) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:7729 (1:05:27) 12:01 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Val Hum Fem Law) had a steel scimitar entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:8065 (1:06:51) 12:14 accidentally threw a potion to a peaceful G and saw: You feel guilty. The rock gnome gets angry! "Uh-oh." You feel guilty. 12:14 is this -10 alignment..? 12:17 just -1 for angering a peaceful creature 12:19 thx, i guess the message shown twice means -2 for me 12:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:17407 (7:41:22) 12:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:16479 (4:01:00) 12:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:17079 (4:09:46) 12:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:1544 (0:10:46) 12:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3028 points, T:2045, killed by an owlbear 12:59 Flippin' polymorph traps! My poor tourist got polymorphed into a mosquito. 12:59 Thank god I found a scroll of scare monster or I would be done for. 13:00 gotta love that 50/50 shot of an "mr in sokoban! 13:06 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 13:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:57283 (1 day, 0:29:01) 13:08 heh 13:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:19601 (4:40:27) 13:14 danke shan 13:14 dammit, so excited like always i forget my dragon pet 13:32 hi 13:32 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 13:32 * K2 pets Hecubus 13:41 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:41 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:50 is goblin town teleportable? 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) had 16 shuriken entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:21273 (5:17:27) 13:51 i wanna say no 13:51 lemme check 13:51 yup it's 'noteleport' 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5848 (1:51:05) 13:59 thx 14:00 no acid potion to melt the iron bars to access the hammer chest 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:9253 (1:11:12) 14:05 what's the decay rate of luck with a luck stone? want to calculate if i should rethrow stone at unicorns before praying again (to get crowned) 14:06 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible k3ut0i's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:9629 (1:16:04) 14:07 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:23308 (5:38:13) 14:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) had a quarterstaff entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:23608 (5:41:30) 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23931 (5:46:36) 14:22 i dont know off the top of my head 14:23 it'd be the same as unnethack... 14:23 maybe that's on the wiki 14:24 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/bf482bb1020d2edc0e837f41f1c53fc8bf3cd675/src/timeout.c#L572 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) had a pair of gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:24803 (5:51:59) 14:25 thanks terrapin 14:28 [hdf-us] [evil] k3ut0i (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance", on T:10870 (1:38:03) 14:34 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:38884 (11:28:04) 14:37 kk 14:38 finally retried a war hammer, gonna try forge the first time for some weapon 14:38 is dark elven long sword a good idea? is it wood (suseptible to burning)? 14:39 it will break if used in light 14:40 use it in corridors only 14:40 hmm not sure i can read that C code. So let's say i'm at +12 luck with a luckstone + gem throwing. How many turns do I have before it drop to +9? 14:40 got it 14:40 link the file/line of code and i'll explain 14:40 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/bf482bb1020d2edc0e837f41f1c53fc8bf3cd675/src/timeout.c#L572 14:41 going from the table: if you're at +12 luck that's 9 greater than baseline, so it will take 8800+12200+15200=lots of turns to drop to +9 14:42 yup, unless you have angered your god 14:43 which krm26 is want to do 14:44 hmm base is +3? 14:44 krm26's deity: 'bless you, my son, I grant thee a blessing...' krm26: 'you suck, make me a sammich' 14:44 god angry 14:44 sudo dragonbane pls 14:45 #forge failed: You fail to combine these two objects. 14:45 oh huh i guess not; i assumed the luckstone would affect base luck but it looks like that's always 0 barring lunar oddness 14:45 krm26's deity: rm -rf dragonbane 14:45 steel dwarvish short sword + mithril short sword = invalid? 14:45 ikr 14:45 dwarvish != normal 14:46 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Forge_(dungeon_feature) 14:46 two non-dwarvish, non-elven, non-orcish short swords 14:46 just 6400 turns to drop to +9 then 14:46 got it 14:46 why are you so worried about luck? 14:48 high luck == good things can happen 14:48 improves your to-hit 14:48 sure, but you normally never have to think about it once you have a luckstone 14:49 krm26: want to get crowned 14:49 except your luck will slowly drain over time 14:49 yeah, sloooooowwwlwllllllly 14:49 and for those of you that get into 100k + turns territory, it should be a concern 14:50 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Hum Mal Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:39403 (11:44:20) 14:50 YAY! 14:50 \o/ 15:00 -!- alivernine has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:11 us hardfought seems suddenly slammed 15:14 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:27778 (6:41:42) 15:17 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class R), on T:14168 (3:15:40) 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:14655 (3:19:08) 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 24513 points, T:15042, zombified by a drow zombie, while fainted from lack of food 15:38 I'm trying to remember why I'm trying to hard to play drow rogue... 15:38 maybe giant samurai softened me up too much. 15:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 52801 points, T:21324, killed by an energy vortex 15:41 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 15:55 Laerchon the invisible Cultist douses you in a torrent of acid! 15:55 that's crazy damage..... 15:56 it has an the Amulet of Yendor 15:56 its fake 15:57 player infidel 15:58 ya, acid is bad. Only protection is an alchemy smock, appropriate dragon scales (yellow?), dragonbane, or wield dirge. 15:59 i got no coaligned temple in this game. wondering if i should kill the minetown cross aligned priest. to get artifacts. 15:59 collect those fake amulets. It'll help when Rodney tries to steal it from you. hopefully he takes the fake one 15:59 you can try to boulder fort him into a corner 15:59 he'll cast summon bugs and provide a steady stream of sacrifice fodder. 16:01 hmm yeah, need to prepare some floating eye meat 16:05 The silver dragon corpse glows iridescently. The silver dragon corpse disappears. 16:05 what wand is that? 16:05 ah undead turning 16:08 if you really want to kill a coaligned priest, use a pet 16:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:628 (0:02:37) 16:23 It has to be a fairly powerful pet, though. 16:24 A (full-grown adult) dragon is just about on the edge of possibly being able to do it in a pinch, given enough time and some support (healing). 16:24 if you cancel the priest, you leave it vulnerable to lots of stuff, and only take a minor alignment hit 16:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:922 (0:04:45) 16:24 Oh, interesting. 16:25 evilhack dragons can engulf so if it's not a giant priest they'll get swallowed in one bite 16:25 yeah, pretty much any dragon can oneshot a non-huge priest 16:25 even without that, dragons are probably overkill. i've had ancient pseudodragons and cauchemars take out priests pretty easily, sometimes by accident 16:25 they are really fun to take into wraith levels and watch them engulf their way to high enough level to fight rodney 16:27 if only you could put an amulet of unchanging on your pet dragons 16:27 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:66029 (1 day, 1:07:31) 16:27 \o/ finally! 16:27 soa time? 16:28 you betcha 16:28 (you can't say finally until your turns are in 6 digits terrapin :-) 16:28 i bow to your superior bad luck :P 16:29 you are but a student 16:35 terrapin: congrats! Now don't let a balrog whip it out of your hands! 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +3 frost brand", on T:66420 (1 day, 1:16:21) 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:66422 (1 day, 1:16:37) 16:36 indeed 16:37 go forth and annihilate 16:38 are you dualing with another weapon? 16:39 +7 silver katana of frost 16:41 you're basically a cuisinart on legs 16:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5945 points, T:3587, killed by an invisible stalker 16:47 In 3.4 I once had a large dog take out an aligned priest; but I'm pretty sure that pet was over-leveled, as it was killing lots of things dogs don't normally kill. 16:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) had a staff of war entrusted to her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:34455 (8:19:37) 16:54 You slash the orange dragon! You feel a strange lethargy overcome you. 16:54 so i guess this orange dragon is randomized to have slow-speed attack? 16:55 orange passive attack is slow 16:55 most dragons have some kind of passive attacks, kinda like jellies 16:56 good armor for escaping. Anyone who hits you is slowed and you can run 16:56 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 16:56 damn fighting 2 dragons dropped my hp from 105 to 31 very quickly 16:56 does bugle work to scare them? 16:57 there's a chance it'll work. 16:57 i feel like i may die next turn 16:57 drop scare monster scroll? need 1 turn to take out and 1 turn to drop, and i'm already slowed 16:58 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 11 points, T:194, killed by a bolt of lightning 17:00 it is nice to carry an oilskin sack with a scroll of scare monster sometimes, can #tip it in one turn 17:00 you're basically a cuisinart on legs <--- hahahah 17:00 good place to stick any cancellation you find too 17:00 krm26: oh i do have exactly that setup! 17:00 do you guys rec #tip the scroll out or bugle away 17:01 scaring can be resisted and is i think level dependent 17:01 if the dragons havent been blinded scare monster should be guaranteed 17:01 ok tip it is.... 17:02 don't forget if you aren't sure what a monster does -- /?monster name (in game) 17:02 -!- alivernine has joined #evilhack 17:02 damn it's a cursed scroll, not in effect i think 17:02 even works on shambling horrors once you've killed your first one 17:02 The correct wording is "blessed greased dragonhide +3 cloak of magic resistance", right? 17:03 that'll work, order not so important 17:03 wishing is quite permissive 17:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2332 points, T:1826, killed by a jaguar 17:03 Oh of course I didn't get the +3 but now at least I have both reflection and MR. 17:03 (cursed scare monster does NOT scare) 17:04 in fact i think it unscares monsters that see you step on it 17:04 with reflection and mr you are all prepped to get slimed :-) 17:04 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Scroll_of_scare_monster#On_the_ground doesn't not mention that :( 17:05 My tourist is earlygame so hopefully I won't need to worry about slimes yet. 17:06 Is that an evilhack change? 17:07 i didnt mess with with how ?oSM works based on BUC 17:08 only changes i made were what types of monsters would be immune to being scared 17:08 dragons so scary 17:08 think it is vanilla noisytoot, you can confirm somewhere in read.c by looking for, what, SPE_CAUSE_FEAR i think? 17:08 i mma retreat.. 17:09 but i am old and senile and frequently wrong 17:09 SPE_CAUSE_FEAR is the cause fear spell 17:10 "When read, a uncursed or blessed scroll causes monsters in your visual range to flee, subject to each monster's magic resistance score. If you are confused or the scroll is cursed, monsters in visual range will instead wake up, becoming unparalyzed and unscared." 17:10 It seems to apply only to read scrolls of scare monster, not ones on the ground 17:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1771 (0:11:29) 17:13 thx noisytoot 17:13 hmm interesting, donation resulted in 2 ac not 1 17:14 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Shan Lai Ching, on T:34847 (8:41:14) 17:21 wooop 17:22 gosh darn my basic restore ability skill won't get me back my sorely lacking intellect 17:23 k2: is soothing psychic energy reallllly supposed to interrupt rest? 17:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:36153 (8:54:10) 17:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 3475 points, T:3785, killed by a lynx 17:29 dammit, i have two stats drained below limit and 15 basic restore ability casts have gotten me nada 17:30 eggandhull: was it not your first? If that's the case, you may have dropped below encubered and gotten a point of AC back for being unencumbered. 17:36 Oh boy. My tourist stumbled upon a bones file where one of my old tourists got killed by an angel summoned to defend a converted altar. 17:37 I have AC -16--should I just dig past this level to try to get more AC? 17:39 not necessarily -- you reflecting? 17:39 depends on level/offense 17:39 I have reflection, MR, MC3 and a +4 wooden scimitar of fire. 17:40 angel are only base level 14, sounds pretty robust to me 17:40 but you should have a feel for it after a round or two 17:41 tourist, right? can just dart/daggerstorm him down since you are reflecting 17:41 Damn, I died. 17:42 :-/ sorry man 17:43 All good. I'm used to dying all the time. 17:43 what server are you on? 17:44 Just playing windows binary. 17:44 come join us on hardfought! lets people watch your games, give better advice if you want it 17:44 also, you'll get OUR glorious bones 17:47 so many bones... 17:49 (true confession time: we want YOUR bones) 17:50 inb4 I come across a bones file with 50 liches on L2. 17:51 my best achievement so far is leaving lolth for somebody on level 5 17:52 but my favorite i've found was in gehennom with graz'zt, the player spectre, and two overlevelled pets swinging frost brand and i think vorpal blade 17:52 [hdf-us] [evil] AliverNine (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 44 points, T:178, killed by a goblin 17:53 I am not used to the HJKL key schema. 17:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2399 (0:25:13) 18:06 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:3644 (0:35:17) 18:13 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:15 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 18:18 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a silver perforated amulet on an altar, on T:4199 (0:46:26) 18:19 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:25 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 18:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:28 -!- aosdict has joined #evilhack 18:32 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 18:48 bouquet: not my first donation. wow, being emcumbered means -1AC? 18:48 ya, encumberance negatively affects AC and to-hit. 18:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 336 points, T:219, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 18:49 Affects latter 18:49 It only affects the former in that you don't get your dexterity bonus while encumbered 18:49 alivernine: I was screwing around with demons and managed to gate in about 50 of them. Then died... Someone got the bones. 19:02 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:02 I had an odd end to my prior game - not the failed polymorph, but the other one. 19:03 I walked into a polymorph trap and became a vamipre lord.  I did #monster and became a fog cloud, so I had to drop my gear.  Then I did #monster and became a bat. 19:04 Then I tried #monster again but couldn't polymorph into any other vampiric creature.  An energy vortex came up and since I was too far from my gear it zapped me until I died. 19:05 The other odd thing is that when I had my gear and my blessed luckstone, Odin loved my valk player.  But when I died it said he was angry at me.  I didn't do anything except try to escape the energy vortex.  Is that normal? 19:06 for your god's anger to return without the luckstone? 19:06 Luck doesn't affect god anger at all 19:06 I think it might've been you being an undead, or perhaps a relevant message was skipped somewhere 19:06 Oh, that could be. 19:07 what about not being able to change form?  That was the killer. 19:07 I think that's been a common complaint about being a vampire 19:07 is it something coded on purpose?  Or is it a bug on the list to be fixed? 19:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:57817 (1 day, 1:00:07) 19:16 why did you #monster as a vampire lord? 19:16 the other vampire polyforms are useless 19:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 611 points, T:924, killed by a gnome lady 19:20 hmm this priest just doesn't want to go to a square for me to boulder fort him 19:24 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 19:27 sometimes it takes 10k turns for them to finally move 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1065 points, T:1321, killed by Gollum 19:33 ... 19:33 there must be some code messing with it right 19:33 if random, that sounds too unlikely 19:35 priests have a very particular way of moving, enough that it can be exploited to boulder-lock them 19:35 though 3.7 allows priests to smash boulders now 19:35 forget if that's the case for Evil 19:37 it is if they're hostile 19:43 Noisytoot I walked into a polymorph trap and that's what it turned me into 19:43 Yeah - I wanted to try it out and thought I could get back to the human-like form.  Silly me. 19:48 Umbire: could you help get this priest into a nice position :) 19:49 nah, I don't do this often 19:52 seems trapped 19:52 don't know if it can move diagonally through the boulders 19:54 yes it can.... 19:55 diagonal movement through boulders is possible, only exception is soko 19:59 may need to call it quits 20:00 -!- jonadab has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- cbus has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 20:00 -!- cbus has quit [Changing host] 20:00 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 993 points, T:1273, killed by Gollum 20:06 what happens if I weild a c corpse and hit a x-aligned priest? 20:06 they'll start to slow stone 20:06 i guess i can no longer buy protection if i do that or boulder fort it... 20:06 they have the capability to cast stone to flesh on themselves 20:07 but, its on a timer 20:07 so if you're persistient, you could still stone them 20:07 does it turn any stone items they are carrying to meatballs like the player spell? 20:08 yup 20:10 -!- jonadab has joined #evilhack 20:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 342 points, T:792, killed by a poisonous corpse 20:18 Oh, K2 20:18 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/priest.c#L263-L268 what's the correct read of this set of lines 20:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:743 (0:07:00) 20:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:14412 (2:11:35) 20:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:47404 (14:45:27) 20:42 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest8436 20:42 -!- Guest8436 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 20:42 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:46 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:54 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:59 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.0.2] 21:11 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 29266 points, T:16546, killed by an Angel 21:12 My blood runs cold... 21:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Gia Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:37880 (10:09:59) 21:14 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:5 (0:00:16) 21:15 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 40 points, T:259, killed by a fox 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class b), on T:32 (0:00:16) 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 378 points, T:708, killed by Mr. Kipawa; the shopkeeper 21:23 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:25 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 21:27 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 816 points, T:1383, killed by the Goblin King 21:35 Got an "dragonhide armor" un ID'd. Can I melt a scale onto it? 21:35 yes 21:37 what's "armor"? not used to such a plain item. 21:38 its typically leather armor 21:38 but can spawn as different materials 21:42 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1625 (0:10:02) 21:45 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 21:47 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 21:48 looking at wiki, it seems like reading blessed enchant armor while fusing doesn't bump the enchantment of the result, but merely making it erodeproof 21:48 *erosion is repaired and it becomes blessed. 21:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:2296 (0:14:07) 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2648 (0:16:09) 22:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3791 (0:21:44) 22:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) destroyed bouquet's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:3635 (0:31:07) 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a blue jelly corpse on an altar of Lolth, on T:3656 (0:32:40) 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a pair of dark elven gloves entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:3656 (0:32:40) 22:06 that angel did me a favor last game. This is a much better seed. 22:06 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 22:10 first time seeing shambling horror 22:10 imma get out of this floor for now. any tips 22:11 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Val Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Idolatress, on T:51692 (15:39:20) 22:12 you need to hit them once to be able to far look their abilities. 22:13 sometimes you get lucky and it's a lichen/newt/gecko. Sometimes it's a foocubus/vorpal jabberwock/nymph. 22:14 I think you can use ranged attacks to get far look to work 22:14 you have to kill one to see there stats in the monster lookup 22:15 got it 22:15 i'd say 90% of games they have at least one attack that makes you want to engage them from range 22:19 do you have to kill it to see stats? I feel like I've gotten stats after just a hit. 22:21 nope, it's gotta die. or if you're in wizmode you can always see the stats 22:28 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:56 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 23:01 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed k3ut0i's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2468 (0:37:10) 23:15 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16 -!- eggandhull has joined #evilhack 23:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:3097 (0:44:03) 23:19 Your ring called conflict named !c turns to dust and vanishes! 23:19 uh i hate shocking spheres... 23:22 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3869 (0:58:20) 23:37 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest6441 23:37 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 23:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping an uncursed +4 spear on an altar, on T:4099 (1:03:30) 23:41 -!- Guest6441 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:46 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 23:48 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:4810 (1:13:46) 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 12118 points, T:5452, killed by a drow raider, while moving through the air 23:56 dang gnomish wizards in minetown! 23:59 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:69878 (1 day, 2:37:10)