00:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) genocided master mind flayers, on T:55357 (5:46:58) 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:56332 (5:50:32) 00:05 oh baby 00:05 it is indeed protection time 00:05 or 00:05 hm 00:06 not yet 00:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 2141 points, T:2361, killed by a piranha 00:23 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:23 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 00:25 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 00:26 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:30 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2323 (0:21:33) 00:32 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2453 (0:23:16) 00:33 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:45 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5137 (0:30:17) 00:47 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5222 (0:31:24) 00:47 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3048 (0:32:28) 00:58 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 3741 points, T:4487, zombified by a hobbit zombie 01:08 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:12 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 01:58 -!- hackemslashem2 has joined #evilhack 02:21 -!- hackemslashem2 is now known as hackemslashem 02:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:44604 (15:38:09) 02:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:7024 (2:52:41) 02:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Odin, on T:7126 (2:55:24) 02:30 -!- hackemslashem2 has joined #evilhack 02:33 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7757 (3:06:30) 02:55 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:06 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 03:20 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 03:27 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 03:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 06:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:42 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:10 -!- krm26 has joined #evilhack 07:12 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:33 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:36 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 08:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:107345 (1 day, 13:23:07) 08:07 anticlimactic after having to boulder in kas and leave him behind 08:07 lucky soa hit 08:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) genocided alhoons, on T:107380 (1 day, 13:24:43) 08:15 weee 08:15 i may come back for kas later i guess 08:15 although i'm not sure what will change 08:15 asshat is sitting on my stack of +6 silver elven knives which didn't hit him once 08:16 cancel him 08:21 i don't care about losing levels, i don't like levels :-) just couldn't hit 08:21 dont usually have that problem 08:23 i don't recall if -31ac is normal for him 08:24 weird that i always miss -31ac with 34th 08:25 omigod a hit! 08:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:108083 (1 day, 13:41:53) 08:25 christ on a crutch 08:25 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:26 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 08:33 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 08:34 the higher your level, the higher your to-hit 08:34 you know that right? 08:34 and at lvl 30 you get a boost 08:35 and luck is a factor, you want to keep it high 08:35 yeah i know -- max luck, level 19 at start, approximate parity th with ac -- just a huge huge run of bad luck i guess 08:36 <3 08:37 on the other hand i just polyd a cauchemar pet into a silver dragon 08:37 awesome 08:38 i guess i still want to pop barding on him for zombies 08:38 yes 08:38 for now i'm yanking it off my poor vulnerable blue dragon :-) 08:38 oh you no longer have to grease your oilskin sack or BotH 08:38 yeah, but too late :-) 08:38 those are now accounted for in regards to stealing 08:39 heh 08:39 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:39 what about hesperdes? since it has intrinsic oilskin property? 08:39 <@K2> oh you no longer have to grease your oilskin sack or BotH 08:39 ANY bag of holding? 08:39 BotH 08:39 gah 08:39 missed the t 08:39 bag of the hesperides 08:39 :P 08:39 still refocusing after my morning run 08:40 oh my god 08:40 you still run? 08:40 my knees just started sobbing 08:40 i'm not allowed to *really* run because of my spine, but i have an eliptical 08:40 i have a rower picked out just need to pull the trigger and order it 08:40 the rule in our house is my daughter and i have to match each other's time on the elliptical each day 08:41 that's awesome 08:41 right now we are in a detente at 18 minutes 08:41 but she keeps threatening me 08:41 yeah my kiddo is a mini, an eliptical would be too big 08:41 she can use a rower 08:41 just having turned 13, mine now tops my wife by an inch 08:41 heh 08:42 mini-me made it to 4'6" last month (age 11) 08:43 that's only slightly tiny 08:45 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:46 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 08:48 very disappointing to get vecna's hand after going to the trouble to make gauntlets of purity 08:49 into the bag it goes 08:49 the hand has no on-carried properties, right? 08:50 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 08:50 too bad it doesn't have even a lame on-carried 08:50 like aggravate monster :-) 08:50 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:54 heh 08:54 no on carry, gotta wear it 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17268 (3:58:06) 08:57 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 09:02 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:03 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:09 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 09:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:109228 (1 day, 14:25:51) 09:10 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 09:13 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:20 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 09:22 what is in jeopardy if you are walking on lava wearing dragonhide boots of water walking? chance of burning non-dragonhide bags, blindfolds, and towels? hesperides fireproof tho 09:23 so i might need a dragonhide towel and a dragonhide oilskin sack 09:23 but oilskin sack probably can't be dragonhide :-( 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:109514 (1 day, 14:40:49) 09:25 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:29 unicorn horn can burn I think? lizard corpse... 09:32 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 09:37 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:38 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 09:39 'fix' it 09:39 and yeah unihorns, lizard corpse 09:41 unihorns! 09:41 too much trouble, too many wishes 09:41 dammit i will definitely accidentally die to ring swapping 09:42 every giant i ascend is a miracle 09:42 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:45 I still remember the splat where my giant lost track of levitation and stepped into the lava at the sanctum 09:46 i've dropped to my death after killing vlad three glorious times 09:46 ah, another easy mistake to make 09:49 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Law) had a large shield entrusted to him by Lugh, on T:19836 (4:50:39) 09:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:52 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:53 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 09:54 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 09:54 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:01 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 10:05 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:08 sigh, i don't have many other options to be lazy...guess i can fireproof a stack of lizards 10:08 will confused enchant weapon fix anything you are wielding? 10:10 guess so! 10:10 yes 10:10 mmm teleport control is wooden...can probably live without fireproofing that 10:11 fireproof towel, oilskin, unihorn, lizards, check! 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide water walking boots", on T:110319 (1 day, 15:28:14) 10:11 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/a684629d6b21...e4bc58d2a3a3 10:12 [EvilHack] k21971 e4bc58d - Wearing the Hand of Vecna prevents material damage from worn rings. 10:12 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:12 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:12 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 10:13 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 10:15 what uncancels a pet? full healing? blessed xh? 10:15 gain energy? 10:15 restore ability 10:15 restore ability? 10:15 mm 10:15 JINX 10:15 uncursed work? 10:15 buy mobileuser a coke 10:15 yeah 10:16 restore ability 10:16 damn, too late 10:16 i hate that the pets snarl/growl at you when you help them with a potion 10:16 make a #pour command 10:16 it's like when we have to give the dogs a bath 10:16 you pour your potion of restore ability on Bob 10:17 Bob snarls 10:17 Bob doesnt know what's good for him 10:17 bad Bob, bad! 10:17 typical pet 10:17 *spraysprayspray* 10:18 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:18 artifact leash, apply it to a pet and it purifies them -- cure sickness, stoning, confusion, cancellation -- and immune to those effects when leashed 10:19 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 10:19 leashes arent used that often tho 10:19 yeah, they suck 10:20 but that artifact leash would be useful, you'd carry it to restore a pet 10:20 probably mostly leash/unleash for effect, or maybe leash around a horde of footrices or something 10:20 leashes are Fine™ when I haven't found a whistle 10:21 i think... ? I have done all the things i want to do that doesnt break saves 10:21 so official release of 0.8.2 here soon maybe 10:21 when next you break saves, i will say for the nth time, add extra unused space to structures to make it less likely to break saves with future work :-) 10:21 and then i can get crackin' on new stuff 10:22 yeah but i dunno where i'll break saves though 10:22 new monster? new object? new level? who knows 10:22 new race/role 10:22 but there are a few obvious places in structures that define objects and monsters 10:22 well no more new races 10:23 drow was it 10:23 ettin! two hats! 10:24 troll! no death! 10:24 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:24 come on monster-player parity :-) 10:24 race: shambling, role: horror 10:24 lol 10:25 pets regenerate SO SLOWLY 10:25 geta pet that has the M1_REGEN flag 10:25 should get it when i feed them trolls! 10:26 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:26 ok so i have a 28 pegasus, 27 blue dragon, and 22 silver dragon, lets go see if ANY of them can hit THIS STUPID @rogue 10:26 i dont think you used the word 'should' there correctly 10:26 :P 10:26 feeding pets for intrinsics is the best minigame 10:27 i'll do anything to stretch out things before i have no choice but to do gehennom and ascend 10:30 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 10:31 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scales", on T:23873 (5:31:52) 10:35 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:37 nope, even the level 30 pegasus can't scratch that rogue 10:37 and the dragons wont engulf him 10:38 cancel him 10:39 that is your answer to everything! 10:39 i only have...ok, maybe i have like 6 wands of cancellation 10:39 dammit 10:40 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible xialg's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:7633 (0:59:55) 10:42 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 10:43 if you cancel its armor, it'll be easier to hit 10:44 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 10:47 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:49 my pets are so good now i'm living in fear of poly traps 10:53 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 10:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:112435 (1 day, 16:12:35) 10:58 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:59 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 11:04 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:11 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 11:16 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:20 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:28065 (6:20:53) 11:23 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 11:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 11:27 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:31 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 11:34 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Dispater, on T:113663 (1 day, 16:52:29) 11:39 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:46 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 11:47 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:50 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:51 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 11:57 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:59 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest3308 12:01 -!- Guest3308 has quit [Killed (cadmium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 12:01 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 12:02 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 12:04 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 12:09 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:15 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:114695 (1 day, 17:35:09) 12:19 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:20 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:27 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 12:30 woop 12:32 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:33 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 12:34 i lost one of my three uber-pets tho :-/ being so cautious about polymorph traps i left him alone for too long 12:35 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 12:38 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:38 [EvilHack] k21971 published v0.8.2 | Release build of EvilHack 0.8.2 - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/releases/tag/v0.8.2 12:38 dun dun DUN 12:38 :P 12:42 man things are quite the slog without drain resistance 12:43 wooop https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/releases 12:43 there it is baby 12:44 next release, bears everywhere! 12:44 rawr 12:45 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 12:46 neat 12:48 i cant wait for the gardening minigame 12:49 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:116321 (1 day, 18:10:40) 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:116331 (1 day, 18:11:00) 12:56 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 13:01 lol gardening? 13:01 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:01 'You plant some carrots. You watch them grow.' 13:01 druids gotta manage their sacred groves! 13:01 wink wink 13:01 errmahgerd 13:02 brb 13:08 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 13:12 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:19 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 13:24 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:26 drained down to level 13...thought prayer might give me my levels back but i guess not 13:31 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 13:33 ok so... does adding a new role constitute a major change? as in going from 0.8.2 to 0.9.0 ? 13:33 or is it more of a 0.8.3 bump? 13:34 would adding 2 new roles warrant 0.9.0? 13:34 cuz i haz teh idea for another role besides druid 13:34 role = major change for sure 13:34 uh oh :-) 13:34 gonna ask when i get back from daughter business in a few 13:35 not gonna say yet 13:35 :P 13:35 i also have another idea for a side branch that isnt the underwater thing 13:35 extremely challenging but fun and probably worth doing 13:36 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:36 yeah 0.9.0 here we come 13:37 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 13:37 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 13:39 [EvilHack] k21971 created branch 0.8.2 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/e4bc58d2a3a3de85d83735b47fbe672d31abb80d 13:39 [EvilHack] k21971 created branch 0.8.2 - https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack 13:42 aww 13:42 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:42 aww? 13:43 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 13:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 17268 points, T:8420, killed by a bolt of fire, while sleeping 13:44 youre not gonna tell me the second role 13:44 bardbardbardbard 13:44 oh god no 13:44 not that 13:44 bardidybard 13:45 farmer 13:45 heh 13:45 anthropologist 13:45 assistant asparigus strainer, 3rd class 13:46 ive always thought it would be (briefly) fun to have a role reliant on setting traps for monsters to walk into 13:46 verrrry briefly 13:46 oh that's part of the planned rogue quest overhaul 13:46 I gotchu boo 13:46 sigh, gotta figure out what to do now -- demogorgon defeated me and i'm diddling around at level 13 13:47 can't convince my god to give me my levels back 13:47 i have to say... dropping exp levels at this stage in the game is not something I would advise doing 13:47 i'm not trying to! 13:47 no drain res right? 13:47 no stun resist, no sickness resist, no drain resist 13:47 did you finally find MR? 13:47 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:48 yeah long ago 13:48 ok 13:48 "mr 13:48 have any wishes left? 13:48 did you grab vecna's robe? 13:48 giant 13:48 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 13:48 ah right 13:50 i do have a few wishes so i could grab a shield of drain resistance 13:50 i was trying to daggerstorm, had 21 +6 silver elven daggers -- but it wasn't enough 13:51 and trying to cleverly recover the daggers with boulder tricks i got drained to of 6 levels, so now i can't throw them fast enough to kill him when he is in death range :-) 13:51 i THOUGHT that you could recover all the way up to max attained level through prayer? 13:52 -- druids should not break their gear on any polymorph, unintentional or wildshape, and when randomly polymorphed should always get a druid shape 13:53 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:58 yeah that's not a bad idea 13:58 little role convenience to ignore (or benefit from) poly traps 13:59 i dunno why you dont use potions of paralyzation against boss monsters 13:59 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:12591 (5:09:14) 13:59 cuz i miss a lot with them and then they only last for a turn 13:59 heya Loggers_VIII 13:59 or up to 25 13:59 hola 13:59 Hello Loggers_VIII, Welcome to #evilhack 13:59 i mean, i do, but it is like my 3rd tool 13:59 but yeah your relationship with the rng, 1 turn 13:59 :P 14:00 as a giant, i try boulders, then silver aklyses or shuriken, THEN paralysis if i can't just toe-to-toe 14:00 the main reason though -- and this is sadly true -- is that establishing a big stack of forged enchanted silver weapons is a nice minigame i can waste time on before entering gehennom, and once i've done it, i wanna use it 14:01 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 14:01 too low level to hit demo now tho 14:02 can't you levelport past demo and ignore him? 14:02 !whereis krm26 14:02 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Val Gia Fem Law) T:116994 The Dungeons of Doom level: 14 14:03 when you ignore a demon don't they come try to eat you at lucifer? 14:03 demo is NOT what i need at lucifer 14:03 no you can just leave him 14:03 wait what? 14:03 that isn't right 14:03 as far as I know killing the demon bosses (besides luci) isn't required 14:03 brb 14:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:04 tele of any kind is greatly suppressed while in the presence of a demon prince 14:04 there's a very small chance it could work 14:05 i don't have to resist his level if i don't want to 14:05 oh wait 14:05 levelport no workie at all 14:06 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/461f4536744c2ec474e785f1b3268121a54060cc 14:06 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:06 ahhh ok 14:07 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 14:07 grr, tyr just gave me one level back, so now im 14/21 instead of 13/21 14:07 That's normal, yes 14:08 You need blessed restore ability's effect to restore them all at once 14:08 oh i have that 14:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:08 ah thx K2, I was wondering about that 14:08 hmm that got me to 18 14:08 not bad tho 14:14 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:15 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±13] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/e4bc58d2a3a3...dd7e4afac87b 14:15 [EvilHack] k21971 dd7e4af - Initial preparation for new version (0.9.0). 14:16 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 14:17 before i do anymore code work on 0.9.0, i think its high time to do some serious work on the repo itself, like the built in wiki, projects, etc 14:17 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:17 and i think i'll focus on some missing data on the nethackwiki too 14:18 so this is the point where in the next 48 hrs a couple of you will find bugs that make the game unwinnable or some other stupid shit 14:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 14:18 :P 14:21 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:27 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:28 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 554 points, T:1681, killed by a bone arrow 14:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:33 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:34 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 14:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide high boots of decay", on T:118477 (1 day, 19:51:38) 14:35 krm26 prayer can restore an XL but reduces your max---restore ability is a much better option when you're drained multiple levels 14:37 blessed !oFH can work too for one level i think 14:37 yes it does 14:39 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:41 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 14:42 -!- qt has quit [*.net *.split] 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:118607 (1 day, 19:58:54) 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) genocided green slimes, on T:118608 (1 day, 19:59:10) 14:45 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 14:48 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 14:50 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:51 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 14:56 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:57 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 15:02 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:09 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 15:13 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:20 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 15:25 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:32 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 15:32 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 15:37 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:46 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 15:50 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:56 K2: Any idea whats up with all the underscores in the data.base file? I thought maybe it italicizes things in curses mode but I didn't see any difference 15:56 eh? 15:57 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 15:58 You see stuff like _what_ or _Wumpus yobgregorii_ 16:02 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:04 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:05 oh 16:05 no idea 16:05 i think its old school method of emphasizing the word 16:05 like 'do NOT go in there!' could also be 'do _not_ go in there!' 16:05 just a guess 16:05 bbl 16:06 That's correct; I still do it. 16:07 Ah, works for me 16:09 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 16:14 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:21 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 16:26 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:31 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:34 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 16:37 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:39 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:41 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 16:47 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:49 boo! when lizard corpses smoulder they become rotten, not burnt 16:49 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:16594 (2:06:33) 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:120286 (1 day, 20:27:25) 17:00 i know that there's no easy way to differentiate "burnt" and "rotten", but why not make eroded food display as "burnt"? there's no way to rot food afaik, plus it's not rotten in the "cursed food" sense so it's doubly confusing 17:01 honestly, food should have its own bitfield for this i think 17:01 over the years there's been a handful of commits trying to fix this with what we got 17:04 i mean unless something gets a passive rotting attack it doesn't seem like a huge deal to have an overloaded oeroded (plus you get a very satisfying rhyme), it just seems like the objnam code when with the wrong kind of erosion for inventory display 17:04 i dont disagree 17:05 everytime objnam is brought up, my brain wants to shut down 17:05 and i'm like 'no brain dont do that, i need to breathe' 17:05 haha! yeah 17:05 :P 17:09 oh nevermind i see it does get used with the cursed food type of rotten 17:10 qt: sheesh if you're just gonna say it 17:10 maybe just call it "spoiled" for a lazy fix? 17:11 what did I say? 17:11 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 17:11 when I said "stop making me feel bad for being bad at nethack"? 17:12 yeah I legitimately feel like this latest 'discussion' is rooted in a severe amount of cope, for lack of better/kinder words 17:14 i just think saying evil would be better with savescumming is an insane hill to die on 17:14 hence "cope" 17:16 I don't even like taking this angle when it comes to discussing roguelikes because it lends itself to a kind of twattish smarminess that I very much dislike, even though I'm not immune to it 17:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:120970 (1 day, 20:48:05) 17:19 I hate discussions on the value of permadeath 17:19 wait what i missed something critical -- what is there to discuss about savescumming? people can do it locally if they want and it doesnt happen on servers 17:19 I don't, but I do hate when they become a thinly-veiled mechanism to compensate for skill issues 17:20 which, again, don't even like that angle but it's very hard to not feel like that's where it's coming from 17:20 krm26 someone in #hardfought said that evilhack/hackem would be better with savescumming integrated 17:20 and it's kind of spiraled 17:20 wut 17:20 i mean 17:20 you say "spiraled" but it's mostly fixated back on Pat being Weird™ about that one qt patch 17:20 in a way, the entire point of a server like hardfought is it removes the temptation to trivialize the challenge by savescumming 17:22 although slightly related, i don't see any reason not to allow non-scoring, non-saving wizard mode games on hardfought for people too lazy to run locally 17:22 I agree on that 17:22 umbire yeah lol 17:22 pat is such a character 17:23 you can play in explore mode on hardfought and nao 17:23 just make a tweak to the cfg 17:23 s/the/your 17:23 srsly? nifty 17:23 explore mode games have a specific flag in the xlogfile, the NHS knows not to count those 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) genocided shocking spheres, on T:121129 (1 day, 20:53:22) 17:24 in my pre-first-ascension, pre-spoiled vanilla days i sometimes used savescumming to figure out aspects of the game 17:24 and i did not feel bad about it 17:24 although perhaps that taints my unspoiled ascension somewhat 17:24 (the ascension itself was not savescummed) 17:27 K2 but if you use #exploremode it says "you cannot access explore mode" 17:27 are you sure it's allowed 17:27 and not blocked 17:28 i just checked vanilla but I remembered having the same result in another variant before 17:28 yeah if I add OPTIONS=playmode:explore to my config I get the same result: "You cannot access explore mode." 17:29 what's the EXPLORERS line set to in sysconf? 17:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a copper amulet of reflection, on T:16177 (6:32:52) 17:42 qt its set to 'nobody' 17:43 i know i said that in #hardfought but it feels weird to have an open-ended question 17:43 just starting at me 17:43 staring even 17:43 right at me 17:43 looking into the depths of my soul 17:43 accusingly 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:42482 (1 day, 6:43:20) 17:45 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 17:49 :) 17:49 I'm glad you put an end to it then 17:54 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:42808 (1 day, 6:56:25) 18:02 :P 18:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1168 points, T:1173, killed by a mountain dwarf 18:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 18:07 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 18:13 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:16 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 18:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:30 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 18:36 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:39 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 18:44 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:04 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 19:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:09 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:36 -!- nabru has quit [Quit: :wq] 19:37 -!- nabru has joined #evilhack 19:39 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 19:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:45345 (15:58:19) 19:43 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:13 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 20:18 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:26 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 20:35 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:01 wuttttttt 21:01 in like 5 turns went from nothing to grazzt lolth yeenoghu 21:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Lolth, on T:123473 (1 day, 22:02:30) 21:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:123475 (1 day, 22:02:38) 21:02 GAUNTLETS OF PURITY BABY 21:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Baphomet, on T:123514 (1 day, 22:06:38) 21:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:22691 (3:02:43) 21:09 omigod 21:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) killed Graz'zt, on T:123560 (1 day, 22:10:36) 21:11 turns 123,300-123,560 were very exciting 21:11 came across an alhoon at mines end. Is it likely just a chameleon or is there a real possibility it spawned? 21:11 chameleon 21:11 or poly trap 21:11 ya, probably poly due to minesend 21:12 what a sucky poly 21:12 i had arch-lich, demilich, alhoon in the mines this run, all chameleons 21:12 nice work on those &'s 21:13 yeah i don't know how i got grazzt, was paying no attention, and suddenly saw that grazzt had summoned a second demon lord which is when i woke up 21:14 I'm really trying to collect them all 21:16 two trolls now, one with dirge, one with butcher, whaling on me 21:16 if it's a chameleon and I encountered it 10k turns ago, would it have changed even though I'm off that level? 21:16 i dont think so 21:16 hmmm 21:16 the safest route is boulder fort on the stairs and wait 50 turns 21:16 I have a ?oEarth and 5 int 21:16 that'll tell you 21:17 in fact, that is exactly what i did, and was rewarded in ONE turn... 21:17 with a black dragon 21:17 oh snap! 21:17 but after i cleaned out my poopy pants i saw it was a baby so i survived 21:18 dirge isn't poisoned, right, so a lawful can safely use it? 21:18 no ring of prot from shapies 21:18 right. Just acid I think 21:18 one of my fave weapons. 21:18 if you can train flail you should go for dirge/butcher 21:19 or butcher/lifestealer 21:19 stun and drain 21:19 butcher is so heavy tho 21:19 i'm soa/mjollnir right now 21:20 no flail for valks 21:21 so this run is grazzt, yeenogu, baphomet, lolth, baalzebub, demogorgon, dispater, juiblex, and of course orcus 21:21 who did i miss 21:21 mm -- no geryon, no mephistopheles, no tiamat, no asmodeus 21:21 so 4 short 21:22 that felt like a lot more than 2/3rds of them for some reason 21:24 you need to edure a beating by one of the lords to get the rest of them summoned. 21:28 man tiamat would be soooo great of course i didn't get her 21:30 ya, that was my reason for trying to summon all the &'s. Wanted that armor. 21:45 lol daaaaaamn krm26 21:58 @e?tiamat 21:58 Tiamat (D) | Lvl: 103 | Diff: 53 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison acid petrification magic drain | Confer: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 6d6 breath random breath, 2d4 cast spell, 4d6 claw amulet steal, 6d6 bite physical, 6d6 bite physical, 2d4 sting drain str | Align: -20 | carnivore, thick hide, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverha 22:10 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 22:17 this minesend is hell. Alhoon, MMF, and an iron golem. 22:18 I'll come back when I'm turbosamurai 22:36 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:26992 (3:55:43) 22:50 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:28437 (4:09:57) 23:54 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack