00:00 !lastgame xialg 00:00 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xialg/evilhack/dumplog/1688271567.evil.html 00:00 another fun bones! 00:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (black dragons), on T:23105 (1:46:36) 00:04 -!- terrapin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:05 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 00:11 Loggers_VIII: I was trying to summon all the available demon lords and princes. 00:12 ah 00:12 playing a dangerous game, there 00:12 especially while naked 00:12 yeah 00:13 unfortunately I didn't get your bones I was really hoping for it 00:13 ehhhh... maybe at the appropriate level. 00:13 dang, I should have gone to my stash level. That would be epic. 00:13 I love stash bones 00:13 allllll the goodies 00:14 There's a couple decent markers and a 1:2 /oWishing in there for the lucky fool how gets it 00:14 huh sure enough 00:14 giant samurai is just tons of fun to chop chop chop all day I kind of didn't want to start the ascension run 00:15 lol 00:15 i get that 00:15 sometimes I just want to *kill* stuff 00:16 preferably stuff that can't kill me back :p 00:18 soko had better give me a marker 00:18 I've identified geno 00:23 hah, mimic was sitting on top of a ring of protection from shape changers 00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:26777 (2:12:53) 00:28 yuss 00:32 oh yay I wrote charging first try without having ID'd it 00:39 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril dwarvish mattock on an altar, on T:11476 (1:10:45) 00:55 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:29983 (2:32:57) 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29984 (2:32:59) 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) returned The Iron Ball of Liberation to Robert the Lifer, completing his quest, on T:30151 (2:33:50) 01:00 oh yeah 01:01 it's nethackin time 01:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a shadow dragon, on T:30758 (2:37:58) 01:04 why do I do this to myself 01:05 doesn't matter I'll get a new cloak at the castle 01:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:13348 (1:32:26) 01:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:13609 (1:35:53) 01:13 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 01:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:31540 (2:44:39) 01:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:14616 (1:42:17) 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:15012 (1:44:25) 01:28 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 01:28 I think I'm gonna quit this game 01:28 I got multi zapped with a wand of poly and now I have no armor 01:29 someone is going to pay for this! 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:32283 (2:57:08) 01:30 oh and the wow is 0:1 fun 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:32290 (2:57:52) 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:32292 (2:58:01) 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:32293 (2:58:04) 01:31 ugh I gotta go to bed 01:32 in the morning, this game will know my wrath 01:32 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:32 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:51 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 02:54 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 02:54 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 03:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:25415 (7:26:32) 03:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25416 (7:26:35) 03:25 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 03:25 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:25 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 03:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) returned Gjallar to the Norn, completing her quest, on T:25697 (7:32:06) 04:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 04:27 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:39 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:52 -!- hackemslashem2 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:34 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:00 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:00 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:19 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #evilhack 08:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 08:28 dammit -- npc rogue stole my weapon, my wand of cancellation, and is unhittable 08:33 god dammit 08:33 so frustrating... my own fault for eating those wraiths and getting to level 20 08:34 took my shit backup weapons, can't disengage because too fast, ignores my gjallar... 08:48 well boulder tricks and 100 charges of various combat wands and i hit him for less damage then he regenerated so i think i'm gonna leave a bones 08:49 i'd forgotten how frustrating invulnerable npcs are, particularly rogues 08:54 poly into a black dragon and eat him 08:54 he has my mjollnir and ogresmasher 08:55 and is wearing what is presumably an amulet of magic resistance 08:55 ok 08:55 i think its time 08:55 and it looks like he has teleportitis now so i can't continue trying to trap him 08:55 grrrrrrrr 08:56 at least i hid my wand of wishing from him, although he has my magic lamp 08:56 monsters cant use magic lamps for wishes 08:56 so there's that 08:56 thank god for small favors 08:56 man that teleportitis is the killer 08:56 but i think its time 08:57 i might be able to leave and somehow get a dragon pet 08:57 but presumably they couldn't hit him either 08:57 YANI: if an object is greased, monster cant steal it until grease wears off 08:57 or some such 08:57 i think its time to make that a thing 08:58 we've talked about that in the past but in practice i don't think it would amount to a lot, since grease wears off so quickly 08:58 its better than nothing 08:58 literally true 08:59 even if you do polymorph one of these suckers, it toasts all their loot, doesn't it? and all your artifacts they have? 08:59 no 08:59 not anything in their inventory no 08:59 really? my bad 08:59 but i was saying YOU should poly into a black dragon and eat him 09:00 hmm 09:00 that is an idea, i never do crap like that 09:00 or maybe an orange dragon 09:00 so he doesnt disint your stuff on your hide 09:00 i still don't have any source of magic resistance, but i *do* have poly control 09:01 shadow dragon hah 09:01 breath attack level drian 09:01 plus more hp 09:01 shadow dragon it is 09:01 celectisal dragon could be fun too but they dont engulf 09:01 celestial 09:01 drain 09:01 jesus 09:01 brb work bleh 09:03 he is wearing slow digestion :-( 09:03 feck 09:03 woohoo! 09:03 still got him! took a bunch of chows 09:03 celebrations 09:04 that was SO AWFUL 09:04 and another one could spawn any second 09:04 stupid stupid, never level past 14 09:04 at least not past 19 09:06 now i gotta wait out the dragonness because all my crap is under boulders 09:06 if i had an ice chest i'd lay 10 eggs 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:71489 (23:32:28) 09:22 i can see i'm gonna get hit by my daughter's energy drain an awful lot 09:23 just like in real life 09:27 heh you hatched an egg? 09:33 i did 09:34 and then another invulnerable rogue spawned 09:34 and for some reason my level 29 shadow dragon won't kill him 09:34 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:35 i have the dragon and rogue trapped by boulders right next to each other and i guess they are just going to live in peace until the dragon starves to death 09:37 if you cancelled the npc rogue that'd negate its stealing attack. not going to have nearly as much monster MR as say a demon boss 09:38 yeah, the first guy stole two things from me instantly -- mjollnir and my emergency oilskin sack with my wand of cancellation in it :-) 09:38 then he proceeded to zap the crap out of me while i tried to get away 09:39 i don't really understand why this shadow dragon won't kill this rogue 09:40 ah well, i'll just abandon him, at least he doesn't have all of my stuff 09:40 i can go a whole game without a single rogue nps and this game has decided to give me one every few hundred turns 09:42 and now my shadow dragon pet vanished somewhere 09:42 -!- qt has joined #evilhack 09:42 i need a lot more pet-related stop messages apparently 09:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:73219 (1 day, 0:00:21) 09:49 oooh 09:50 potentially nice if i had demonbane. i STILL HAVE NO MR 09:50 75k turns waiting on Kathryn and Vecna 09:50 while i get dogpiled by untouchable rogues 09:50 did you have mr before and lose it? 09:51 nope, never had any mr 09:51 ugh 09:51 i've been getting by on polymorph control 09:51 (giant) 09:51 maybe you could sac for dramborleg 09:51 i'm lawful and sacrificing my ass off. 09:52 or polypile for an "oMR 09:52 spent 35k turns basically doing nothing else. after mjollnir i've got ogresmasher, angelslayer, and now grayswandir 09:52 i will definitely do that if i can get at least 10 amulets 09:52 (i DO have the wand of wishing -- came with 1 charge) 09:52 but i feel lame wishing for an amulet 09:53 hey MR is MR 09:53 and traditionally i save all my wand wishes to prove that i never get a second artifact 09:53 0 second artifacts in 2023! 09:53 id do the math but that is definitely under 1% probability 09:54 so after finally killing the first rogue as a shadow dragon and retransforming i was nekkid of course and a basilisk spawned next to me (faster than me too) -- almost bit it there, was sooo close 09:55 you're just a bad rng magnet 09:55 that's the only way i can explain it 09:56 i scan your repo every month for namechecks for me but you are clever 09:57 lol 09:57 your build process on hardfought probably has an injection 09:57 seriously tho... gonna develop an anti-theft grease method right now 09:57 so if i drain off like 10 levels, it will NOT reset the @npc difficulty i get, right? 09:57 its unofficially been on my to-do 09:58 it works off max achieved? 09:58 yeah i think so 09:58 yeah me too :-( 09:58 complicating this run even further, my lone ring of poly control is engagement so leprechuans keep stealing it 09:58 and since there are more monsters that can steal shit in evilhack vs vanilla, i think setting up a greased based anti theft method is warranted 09:58 arghghg another @npc...phew, convict 09:59 honestly i think that the rogues theft is far too effective 09:59 well they have normal stealing vs other types 09:59 anything is fair game for them 10:00 cuz they're rogues. its what they do 10:00 if you were a rogue you could steal your stuff back :P 10:00 !whereis krm26 10:00 Umbire: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Val Gia Fem Law) T:72750 The Dungeons of Doom level: 24 10:00 well, probably not, because the npcs always seem to be faster, so you can't catch the buggers 10:00 poly into a nymph 10:00 hm. what's your current weapon + Luck 10:00 you're a giant, of course you're slower 10:01 max luck, +6 expert mjollnir, can't hit the @npc rogues 10:01 well you can, just not every hit 10:01 i'm gonna f up this convict tho 10:01 what's your TH show? 10:01 well, i went through every weapon i had access to and hit 0 times before they were all stolen, then missed with all my ranged weapons and every boulder, and missed with abot 90% of my wands 10:02 TH#9 10:02 TH39 10:02 but you keep throwing like -45ac rogues at me dude 10:03 and this npc of course has access to cursed tp so there he goes 10:04 probably teleported to my stash :-) 10:07 pretty sure monster generation is based on current XL 10:08 I usually get to XL 30 on Valley wraiths and then drain myself to ~19 and i rarely run into problematic npcs 10:08 in any case my pet shadow dragon disappeared so i missed my opportunity 10:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:08 darn 10:09 yeah this run is in the toilet 10:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 10:20 found my shadow dragon on some random level -- no longer my pet. wonder if i should anger him and have him drain me 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law), 964 points, T:2588, killed by a bolt of lightning 10:25 -45 ac on an npc? really? 10:25 they're usually in the -25 to -32 range 10:28 it is weird how i enjoy losing in like every other way but unkillable thieves really hork me off. i think it because the process is so drawn-out and painful and can last thousands of turns 10:31 mithril amulet of mr! at least until it gets stolen 10:33 eeyore :/ 10:35 agh forget that free action is gold 10:42 it is weird, the npc rogue spawning makes me feel real-time time pressure, which i do not like 10:47 alright, drained back down to 19, let's see if that keeps me from decompensating in #evilhack today 10:50 heh 10:50 geno leps? 10:51 i will once i have more than my 1 emergency scroll of genocide, for sure 10:51 and my shamblers aren't gold-happy this game which is nice 10:51 they are the every-damage-type shamblers 10:52 cold, fire, acid, shock, con poison, dex poison 10:52 no vorpal tho 10:52 yeah, happy fuzzy shamblers :-) 10:53 btw giant centipedes should be able to decapitate you once they get you wrapped 10:53 OK! 10:53 :P 10:53 i like all kinds of non-thief sadism 10:56 speaking of luck, this run in early-days minetown i had two chameleons -- master lich, demilich; and the next level another chameleon -- alhoon 10:57 good lord 10:57 seriously... you should be studied 10:58 i was able to boulder my way to safety with the alhoon and then he transformed into a black dragon and i shat myself because i didn't have reflection -- but it was a baby so didn't breathe on me 11:00 heh 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a sewer rat, on T:17178 (2:18:55) 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 49380 points, T:17426, killed by a leocrotta 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 1671 points, T:5796, killed by an orc-captain 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:78256 (1 day, 1:29:55) 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:25988 (8:30:11) 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided energy vortices, on T:26172 (8:32:39) 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:79019 (1 day, 1:56:10) 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2561 (0:37:09) 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2607 (0:38:15) 12:14 !who 12:14 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players 12:16 -!- mode/Hecubus [+Ziw] by Hecubus 12:16 -!- molybdenum.libera.chat changed the topic on #evilhack to: EvilHack: a NetHack variant ¤ https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack ¤ public irc logs available at hardfought.org ¤ version 0.8.2 available for public play on #hardfought ¤ see https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack for gameplay information ¤ Bug tracker and future development ideas - https://www.hardfought.org/etherpad/p/EvilHack ¤ https://redd.it/13564zo 12:16 -!- mode/#evilhack [+v Hecubus] by ChanServ 12:16 !who 12:16 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 12:20 you need me to bounce? 12:24 no 12:24 hdf-au recently got an upgrade, just making sure all services on it are behaving 12:25 OS went from ubuntu 16.04 to 22.04 (whew) 12:25 same RAM/volume size, got an extra cpu core 12:26 every time anyone talks about an os upgrade it reminds me that i need to pick a new os for my poor centos machine 12:27 burying that thought and its associated work down deeeppppp 12:27 heh 12:27 yeah this wasnt just 'upgrade the os' 12:27 had to spin up a new instance and rebuild hdf-au 12:27 i like doing that, its fun 12:28 and in the process, found and fixed a bonesync bug 12:28 a lot of different bones files werent being synced, due to sometimes the file perms when the file was written were off (660 or 640 instead of 644) 12:29 and gnollhack changed their bones file naming format altogether, so none of those were ever being synced, had to modify the script so it'd see them 12:30 they have their own server too i assume? since it seemed like they wanted to be pseudocommercial 12:32 they did? i dunno if they dropped it or what 12:32 it doesnt really get used from what I recall 12:33 mainly because everytime they did an update, they'd wipe out the xlogfile/logfile/record/etc 12:34 so there's a handful of asc that happened on their server that the record is lost i think 12:35 hmm if they are primarily hosted by you i'm surprised they don't let you know when they break crap 12:36 they've been a bit better about that of late 12:36 but i know to check the patchlevel.h file anyways 12:36 'trust but verify' 12:48 alrighty... lets see what we can do with stealing and greased stuff 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of water walking boots entrusted to her by Odin, on T:26427 (7:57:59) 13:03 The hobbit pickpocket's hands slip off of your greased long sword! 13:04 The mountain nymph's hands slip off of your greased long sword! The grease wears off. 13:20 finally a reason to actually do that 13:25 now i'm working on the other way around (player tries to steal from mon) 13:30 You smile at the Mordor orc engagingly. Your hands slip off of the Mordor orc's greased spellbook of cone of cold! The grease wears off. 13:32 You begin robbing monsters with your bare hands. You try to steal from the jackal. Your hands slip off of the jackal's greased food ration! 13:32 hahah 13:35 yeah that wasnt too hard to do 13:36 checking mhitm 13:36 aaaaaand hah 13:37 mon stealing from player calls steal() 13:37 player stealing from mon calls steal_it() 13:37 mon stealing from mon calls nothing, the routine is part of the switch case for ad_ssex/ad_sitm/ad_sedu 13:37 so, one more place to edit 13:49 -!- hackemslashem has joined #evilhack 14:01 does this mean that oilskin sacks and cloaks are unstealable? 14:01 and items with the oilskin oprop 14:01 none of this is 100% unstealable, just that there's a good chance the steal attack will slip 14:02 its modelled off of if a monster tries to grab you and your cloak or armor is greased 14:05 The wood nymph pretends to be friendly to the hill orc. The wood nymph smiles at the hill orc engagingly. The wood nymph's hands slip off of The wood nymph's greased short sword! 14:05 i've actually made the odds slightly better for a greased obj to resist being stolen and for the grease to wear off vs a monsters grab attack 14:13 Shouldn't that be "the hill orc's" (no T, as well as the obvious) 14:13 yup 14:13 copy paste flub 14:16 huh mdef is in there 14:20 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:43 The wood nymph's hands slip off of the hill orc's greased rubber hose! 14:44 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 14:45 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:52 ooh, a minesflayer! haven't seen one in ages 15:00 lucky 15:03 *your* kind of luck, maybe :P 15:14 The Wizard of Yendor's hands slip off of your greased Eyes of the Overworld! 15:14 you're welcome :) 15:15 mmm. now make the grease dissolution chance 14 to 38% less extreme and 30 to 35% less punishing 15:16 i already did 15:16 !@!!! 15:16 what about weapons degreasing themselves when you actually fight with them? 15:16 [14:05] <@K2> i've actually made the odds slightly better for a greased obj to resist being stolen and for the grease to wear off vs a monsters grab attack 15:17 i dont think grease wears off of a weapon when you fight with it does it? 15:17 as i recall (so take with grain of salt), it does. although it isn't impossible i'm thinking about like hitting water elementals and such 15:18 i used to have a habit of greasing everything but weapons just because 15:18 and i didn't do weapons because it wouldn't stick for more than half a second 15:18 as i recall 15:18 it would be neat if it burnt off weapons when hitting a fiery creature 15:20 what if it is high temperature engine grease? 15:20 what if its dielectric grease 15:21 what if instead of greae it was wd40 15:21 *grease 15:23 i just whacked several giant turtles with my greased spear 15:23 grease is still present 15:24 pretty sure grease only wears off if something tries to grab you (greased armor) and now greased objects in general (stealing) 15:24 that is amazeballs, ship it! 15:25 i need that grease STAT 15:25 i got three cans locked and loaded 15:25 cans of grease are about to become a lot more valuable 15:25 we need a grease stat 15:25 now bear in mind, this forthcoming commit doesnt make greased objects steal proof, there's still a chance they can get stolen 15:25 it would be more useful than charisma 15:25 and then a chance the grease can wear off 15:26 just like a greased piece of armor doesnt fully negate a grab attack 15:28 SHIP IT 15:32 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/3beb033895fb...bd4e606d1a37 15:32 [EvilHack] k21971 bd4e606 - Greased objects have a chance to resist being stolen. 15:32 ^ NetSysFire 15:32 heh 15:35 this is now live 15:35 if playing, save/reload to get the change 15:37 DA MAN 15:37 i am gonna be soooo greasy 15:37 lol 15:37 unfortunately it won't help me hit the f*ckers but at least i might be able to run away more easily 15:40 and people called me crazy when i kept greasing the bag of hesperides! 15:41 that's crazy 15:44 oh my 15:44 hmm -- do pets not eat drow for sleep resistance? 15:44 that's a brilliant idea 15:48 krm26 try tossing the drow corpse at your pet 15:48 i did 15:48 That's a great commit 15:48 i suppose it might have already acquired sleep res somehow somewhere 15:48 Reminds me of invisible items lol 15:54 wish there was a better way for non-spellcasters to heal pets than smashing them in the face with a potion 16:00 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 16:00 back in a bit 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a white unicorn), on T:6151 (1:56:31) 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 7603 points, T:6164, killed by a white unicorn 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a spellbook of levitation given to him by Anhur, on T:31654 (9:48:24) 16:18 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 16:20 k2: pets should catch and eat wraiths for gain level 16:28 k2: something weird about dragons being able to swallow clay golems 16:28 they should spit out inorganic monsters 16:31 also, shouldn't engulfing a genetic engineer maybe polymorph the engulfer? 16:47 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 16:52 weee 17:00 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 17:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (leprechauns), on T:86385 (1 day, 4:07:50) 17:15 umm -- 135 aum spellbook? 17:15 gift from my god 17:16 read it 17:16 i did -- repair armor 17:16 but HEAVY 17:16 it should only be 45 aum 17:16 yes, it was 3 times its normal weight 17:17 since it is my class spell maybe there is some weirdness where the spell level of the class spell multiplies the weight of the book 17:17 like when spellbook weight calculations were rectified and that gift thing was missed 17:18 but i'm just talking out my butt 17:18 where's the livelog? 17:19 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 17:20 oh it wasnt a sac gift 17:20 you prayed and got one yeah? 17:20 yup 17:21 sacrifice has given me nothing in 10k turns so just trying to get crowned 17:21 NOOOO my god restored my lost levels god DAMN IT 17:22 was this a crowning gift or just regular prayer 17:23 just regular prayer 17:24 huh 17:24 there's handling for weight of the spellbook in the code 17:25 *phew* good thing i kept my ex-pet shadow dragon trapped somewhere to redrain me 17:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:32443 (10:38:15) 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32445 (10:38:27) 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) refused to give up The Eye of the Aethiopica to Neferet the Green, on T:32724 (10:42:38) 18:00 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 18:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:06 i was just reading the log---i remember i got a 1/3 weight spellbook once as a gift---most books are paper but some are leather which is thrice the weight and gifts aren't always made of the right material 18:17 some random spellbook appearances are leather instead of paper 18:17 so it might be that 18:41 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:51 krm26 that heavy spellbook, what was its description? 18:52 !who 18:52 K2: [hdf-us] dbanethacker [evil] tinklebear [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 18:57 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:1330 (0:07:19) 19:06 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2214 (0:12:52) 19:16 -!- dbanethacker has joined #evilhack 19:19 Hi, I'm somehow on a level with about 100 incubus / succubi and a few vroks / balrogs / pit fiends.  Dungeon level 19 - what gives? 19:21 this is bouquet's bones 19:21 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1688519844.evil.html 19:21 they were trying to summon all the demon lords 19:22 hah have fun with that level 19:23 │ ─┐ │ 19:23 │ &&· & @&& @&& p f@ │ 19:23 │ &&&│ & u & : │ 19:23 │ &&&│ & && & & & │ 19:23 │ │0&& & & && & & & & 19:23 │ │@0&z& & && &&& : && │ 19:23 │ └── & &:&&& & 19:23 │ & & & & &&&@ │ 19:23 │ & & && & & & │ 19:23 │ @&& & : & │ 19:23 │ &&& &@&&&& c@ & & @ & │ 19:23 │ & &&&&& & & & c │ 19:23 │ &&& &&&&&& &&& │ 19:23 │ &&& & & │ 19:23 │ && & │ 19:23 │ && & & && &&&& & & & : │ 19:23 It looks something like that. 19:23 dbanethacker hey fyi, irc etiquette - dont copy/paste like that 19:24 its also a good way for the server to auto kick you for spam 19:24 Sorry - i was trying to show others what it looks like. 19:24 i get it 19:24 we can always view your game 19:24 ^ 19:24 also pastebins are your friends 19:24 Sure - but I'm not on the level at all times. 19:24 pastebins? 19:24 https://controlc.com/ 19:25 example 19:25 Nice - thanks for that! 19:39 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:45 dbanethacker: K2 isn't the one to be wary of for those... It's Ozone. You do *not* want to piss off Ozone. :) 19:46 (One of the various sentient(?) bots that roams the Libera space). 19:50 !who 19:50 K2: [hdf-us] tinklebear [evil] :: [hdf-eu] No current players :: [hdf-au] No current players 19:50 arahael next time you play lemme know how the server feels 19:51 curious if there's any difference in perceived performance 19:55 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:13 i'm pretty sure the spellbook problem is from here: https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/bd4e606d1a37455114c008a3de7632f8bee84746/src/pray.c#L2276 20:13 a book is made, but the type is then changed, while the material remains the same 20:14 so when weight is recalculated, if the original book was leather and the new book is normally paper then it will be thrice the weight 20:15 i don't think material shows up in inventory description for spellbooks since they are supposed to be one material 20:16 huh 20:16 but the weight is recalc after its made yeah? 20:24 terrapin, repeating from earlier: some random spellbook appearances are leather instead of paper 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 195070 points, T:28322, killed by a succubus, while moving through the air 20:28 Alas, now I'm a ghost on bouquet 's level 20:29 hah 20:29 so for example: line 2276 creates a spellbook of knock made of its base material, leather. line 2292 makes it a spellbook of force bolt, which happens to have paper as its base material that game. Then weight() calculates the book as weighing 3583 units 20:29 *35*3 20:30 since it's made of leather still 20:30 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 20:34 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:35 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:45 Oh, K2 20:45 When it comes to the glyphs for artifact, NO_COLOR means it defaults to whatever color the material would display as, yes? 20:47 no 20:47 that's its glow/warning color if it glows 20:48 Ah 20:48 that used to confuse me the same way 20:48 Then what if anything sets glyph color? 20:48 its base object/material 20:49 So Ashmar (article I'm looking to create, full disclosure) would be... 20:49 mithril 20:49 so light gray 20:50 you can verify all of the artifact glyph colors by spinning up a game in wizmode, wishing them up and seeing what they look like on the ground 20:50 brb food 20:51 Coo 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Ixoth, on T:32399 (20:56:44) 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32400 (20:56:51) 21:01 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/The_Magic_Mirror_of_Merlin So the same light gray as this glyph then, K2? 21:03 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 21:07 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1997 points, T:2585, escaped 21:19 yes 22:31 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 22:35 I've been distracted by other responsibilities for the last few hours, but to finally get around to finishing my thought---k2: add otmp->material = objects[otmp->otyp].oc_material; after lines 1393 & 2291 to fix the gifted spellbook weight issue 22:36 (i wiztested and this fixes it) 22:38 (and Umbire yes, the leather/paper thing is the crux of the issue) 22:44 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 22:45 I hate trying to resurrect runs from the dead 22:45 but the build up of resentment makes it oh so satisfying if you win 22:50 K2: GREASE 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1210 (0:11:43) 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1315 (0:13:43) 22:59 oh yay random helm of speed from player monster :) 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:34359 (3:13:54) 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:36649 (3:23:02) 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) genocided green slimes, on T:36650 (3:23:07) 23:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of cloth gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:37380 (3:25:21) 23:13 ooh +5 23:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:18 terrapin thanks o/ 23:21 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 6501 points, T:4405, killed by a wand 23:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:42 -!- arahael_ has joined #evilhack 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:8150 (1:09:10) 23:53 g'night folks