00:05 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest1485 00:05 -!- Guest1485 has quit [Killed (sodium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 00:05 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 00:09 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±8] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/35e2064e7847...75544d1859d3 00:09 [EvilHack] k21971 67650bd - Make Saint Michael a slightly tougher opponent. 00:10 [EvilHack] k21971 7831372 - Fix: place trident skill initialization (Tortle) in correct location. 00:10 [EvilHack] k21971 75544d1 - Wearing the Armor of Retribution increases carry cap/max carry cap. 00:12 These goin' live soon, too? 00:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had 17 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2603 (1:05:04) 00:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had 19 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2808 (1:30:17) 00:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had 17 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3180 (1:34:31) 00:49 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:3266 (1:35:17) 00:54 New philosophy: If the God wants to give me gifts instead of giving me FOOD, I'm going to eat meat. :) 01:04 skill issue 01:05 But meat is delicious! 01:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant beetle, on T:4305 (1:52:49) 01:23 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4686 (2:09:08) 01:24 Oh, loadstones are *trivial* to get rid of in evil. 01:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 24929 points, T:4899, zombified by a human zombie 01:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Orcranger (Ran Hob Mal Neu), 903 points, T:1654, killed by a rabid rat 01:39 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1866 (0:27:10) 01:40 -!- dingotron has joined #evilhack 01:42 -!- dingotron has quit [Client Quit] 01:47 I've walked right up to the goblin king, and he's still sitting on his throne? 01:50 Hmm, talking to him sure angers him. :D 01:50 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:888 (0:23:26) 02:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2310 points, T:1576, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 02:01 Likely a result of stealth 02:04 One thing I noticed was that he seemed to have a light source. 02:04 So I probably never triggered the visibilty response. 02:07 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1324 points, T:2632, killed by a giant leech 02:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:9432 (2:53:17) 02:13 I tend to light my way to the Goblin King so I have a navigable route if things go sideways 02:18 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:22 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 02:30 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 384 points, T:1028, killed by a gecko 02:33 I just kill everyone, it's super rare to get blocked. 02:33 Mind you, first thing I do is usually kill the goblin king so I'm generally fairly low power as well. 02:34 So monsters are easy, too. 02:34 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1640 points, T:3111, killed by a rothe, while praying 02:36 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:09 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1313 points, T:1575, killed by a large spider 03:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Orcranger (Tou Hob Fem Neu), 7972 points, T:6107, killed by a bolt of lightning 04:01 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1134 points, T:1189, killed by a jaguar 04:11 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 233 points, T:368, killed by a jumping spider 04:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2729 (1:38:42) 05:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 22 wooden darts on an altar, on T:3291 (2:35:28) 06:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:1256 (0:36:06) 06:28 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 8798 points, T:3820, killed by an owlbear 06:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2827 (0:46:46) 06:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:2863 (0:47:56) 07:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by offering a rock gnome corpse on an altar of Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5236 (1:06:55) 07:16 -!- chao has joined #evilhack 07:18 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:7560 (1:27:04) 07:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 14475 points, T:7668, killed by a wand 07:22 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #evilhack 07:22 -!- chao has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27 -!- d[-_-]b is now known as stenno 07:40 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 07:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2688 (0:10:29) 07:54 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 07:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 3653 points, T:2918, killed by a warg 07:55 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 918 points, T:935, killed by a rock gnome, while sleeping 08:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of cloth gloves entrusted to her by Mog, on T:71708 (22:32:59) 09:08 -!- Graznop_ has joined #evilhack 09:08 -!- Graznop is now known as Guest5313 09:08 -!- Graznop_ is now known as Graznop 09:09 -!- Guest5313 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:923 (0:09:39) 09:20 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2102 points, T:1203, killed by an arrow 10:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3265 (0:13:07) 10:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3985 (0:18:10) 11:35 -!- Graznop has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1340 points, T:1366, poisoned by a rotted human corpse, while praying 11:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 20970 points, T:10373, killed by a gnoll hunter 11:48 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 11:48 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:53 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 12:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:835 (0:04:46) 12:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1111 points, T:1278, killed by a bolt of cold 12:45 k2 -- now that drow make it impossible to keep any part of the dungeon lit, you need to let the non-drow humanoids read scrolls of light when they are in darkness 12:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2981 (0:12:25) 12:52 -!- Dingotron2 has joined #evilhack 12:52 well not impossible. just not ideal 12:52 what i mean is, all non-drow frequently have mobs crush their carefully lit areas 12:53 drow should have non-drow mobs crush their carefully darkened areas 12:53 humanoid with scroll of light hit by something they can't see? read scroll of light 12:53 heh 12:53 humanoid with wand of light fighting drow? use wand 12:53 what was that?? poof light 12:54 did you see my whine about what happened to me earlier? 12:54 no 12:54 had an altar stash in a locked box under a boulder -- came back to level to find it gone and a troll standing there with a wand of polymorph in his hand 12:55 stash had giantslayer, sting, werebane in it along with all the normal good stuff 12:55 of course this was after i repaired the stash with a boulder because just prior a gelcube at my unbouldered stash 12:56 i still don't understand what happened -- why would the troll polymorph my stash when i wasn't on the level? was he polymorphing a zombie or something? 12:56 events cant happen on a level you're not on 12:57 yeah, but i enter the level before i can see the stash room 12:57 it would have happened while you were still on the level 12:57 maybe the troll was fighting a monster ot had a grudge against 12:57 *it 12:57 like a zombie 12:58 most cruel random event i've seen in a loooong time 12:58 this is why crystal chests were created 12:58 so at 70k turns i'm starting again with the shirt on my back 12:58 havent seen one yet of course 12:59 :/ 12:59 i want crystal boulders that giants can't walk through 12:59 hah 13:00 i guess to be safe i should have my chest in a pit and push a boulder into it when i leave 13:02 like a pirate 13:02 buried treasure 13:02 hah that's not a bad idea 13:02 and then engrave X on the spot where it's buried 13:05 it would be 100% safe, but you need a source of boulders for repeat use 13:05 if you are phasing you could drop your chest in solid rock 13:08 k2 -- thief idiosyncracy. wearing iron gloves, steal from peaceful elven npc. they recoil from my gauntlets but don't get angry 13:08 hah weird 13:08 they should probably always get angry 13:08 nice catch 13:08 yeah 13:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 9332 points, T:7625, killed by a blue jelly 13:24 did you see my latest commits krm26? 13:25 i'm in process of correcting any known bugs and adding small tweaks and such before calling 0.8.2 'official' and start working on 0.9.0 13:25 i did not -- and 0.9 is underwater? 13:28 ooh the armor change makes me interested 13:28 still holding out for an artifact gem bag that can only hold gems but holds them weightlessly 13:28 forge from crystal chest + bag of holding! 13:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:1097 (0:04:46) 13:29 + werebane :-) 13:29 that is something that could be done with the junkifacts! 13:32 hah! turn 73,794 -- found first oil lamp 13:32 heh 13:32 i'm not sure i want to make anymore forged artifacts 13:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1718 (0:08:27) 13:32 i dont want to turn evilhack in dnethack and have 8345623285423 artifacts 13:32 yeah i understand wanting to keep it lean. on the other hand, i've always felt bad about the artifacts-in-name-only 13:33 i feel like there's too many as it is (but at least a lot of them dont just randomly appear) 13:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2327 points, T:1852, killed by a warg 13:33 having to forge existing artifacts to make a new one balances that out licely 13:33 *nicely 13:33 but still 13:34 i still wish there were less weapons, more non-weapons 13:34 the ratio is super-weapony 13:34 i dont think i can pull off the underwater side branch the right way until evilhack is running on 3.7 13:34 so 0.9 is not water, is it druid? 13:34 there's a lot you can do in lua that you just cant with existing .des files 13:35 yes. druid :) 13:35 dnd druid, or something-else druid? 13:35 well... you know me. i'll try to adhere to ad&d druid as best I can, but to fit in the nethack scheme of things, some changes will have to happen 13:36 will this include a general spell rejiggering with the addition/incorporation of druid spells? 13:37 there will be druid specific spells 13:37 animal friendship baby! 13:37 goodberry 13:37 i'm debating on sticking with regular spellbooks, or druid spells just enter their minds at a certain exp level 13:37 air bubble! 13:37 oh please please please please regular spell books 13:38 also to consider - should druids be able to use other spells and vice versa 13:38 and take the opportunity to fix the spells-dont-give-a-crap-about-skill-level issue that has always bugged me 13:38 yeah 13:38 that in itself would be a significant undertaking 13:39 imo new spell school for the really unique druid stuff, give druids some minor access to other spell schools (like divination, enchantment), and give rangers basic access to druid spells 13:39 you will be VERY SURPRISED but i have opinions about modifying existing spells to reflect skill level :-) 13:40 plus i would make the spellcasting staffs kick up your "acting spell level" INCLUDING past the maximum otherwise attainable 13:40 oh i hear ya 13:40 healing/attack spells for sure 13:40 so you could get Master Divination as an expert diviner with the staff and it would unlock special spell behaviors 13:41 say healing - heals > 13:41 magic missle - does damage based on skill 13:41 etc etc 13:41 yeah so much you can do that isn't a ton of smop, more just thinking it out and planning according to which roles get which skill levels 13:41 identify - range of objects it could ID is based on skill level 13:41 yup 13:42 we're on the same page 13:42 brb 13:42 excited! 13:45 from my distant recall the most druidy of druid spells that are stuck in my mind are: shapechange, faerie fire, entangle, earthquake, various weather things, wall of thorns, windwalk, insect plague, barkskin/stoneskin, animal friendship/speak with animals, freedom of movement, speak with plants 13:45 some of those would have really cool nethack mechanics, some of those are a bit lame, and definitely there is too many even in that list 13:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:3096 (0:13:29) 13:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) polymorphed her first item, on T:3493 (0:14:58) 13:48 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:4545 (0:19:17) 13:54 yup 13:54 aosdict qt and I worked on this awhile back - https://hardfought.org/etherpad/p/Druid_Design_Discussion 13:54 couple years ago i think 13:55 other people chimed in too 13:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:5915 (0:24:38) 14:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a pair of water walking boots entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:6361 (0:26:53) 14:07 -!- arahael has joined #evilhack 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5462 (0:44:17) 14:42 -!- Dingotron2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) made her first wish - "fixed +3 frost brand", on T:14634 (1:15:01) 14:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a spellbook given to her by Moloch, on T:16151 (1:23:06) 14:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a spellbook of finger of death given to her by Moloch, on T:16283 (1:24:50) 15:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:16777 (1:30:26) 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:19097 (5:07:17) 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hum Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:78559 (1 day, 1:06:01) 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had a copper saber entrusted to him by Kos, on T:19608 (5:20:47) 15:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:21700 (1:58:13) 15:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a spellbook of confuse monster given to her by Moloch, on T:22468 (2:04:32) 15:45 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:23981 (2:14:44) 16:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:29206 (2:42:06) 16:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had a spellbook of turn undead given to her by Moloch, on T:34052 (3:10:30) 16:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 115756 points, T:35703, killed by a sasquatch, while fainted from lack of food 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:23682 (6:37:51) 17:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Oracle, on T:8521 (4:06:43) 17:11 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 194929 points, T:23901, killed by a woolly mammoth 17:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Inf Hum Fem Una), 16690 points, T:8941, killed by a champion of Grumbar 17:30 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:06 -!- Graznop has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1731 (0:29:35) 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1863 points, T:2980, killed by a magic missile, while jumping around 19:26 that's an interesting death msg 19:36 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1161 (1:00:22) 19:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1424 (1:01:46) 19:40 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 630 points, T:835, killed by hitting herself in the face 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 516 points, T:383, killed by a gnome lord 19:48 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3325 points, T:2271, killed by a homunculus, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 477 points, T:359, killed by a ball of cold, while jumping around 20:08 [EvilHack] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/compare/75544d1859d3...ec602a1eaa57 20:08 [EvilHack] k21971 ec602a1 - Allow monsters wielding a digging tool to break boulders. 20:12 That's... Going to be fun in soko. 20:15 monsters typically only break boulders if they're trying to get to you 20:15 as in if you're behind a boulder fort 20:15 its a small list of monsters that can do it 20:16 i wouldnt worry about soko and this 20:17 Ah, interesting. Fair enough. 20:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1258 (0:13:02) 20:26 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1158 points, T:1369, killed by the Goblin King 20:47 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:56 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2945 points, T:3139, killed by a black unicorn 21:08 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:47501 (11:36:44) 21:16 I think it's time for some evilhack (cracks open evil sparkling beverage) 21:35 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2352 (0:17:56) 21:53 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 506 points, T:1693, killed by the Goblin King 21:59 :) 22:00 Hi K2 22:00 hi 22:00 Hello K2, Welcome to #evilhack 22:00 Hack'EM is honestly a blast, decently tough even if it's not quite full Evil 22:19 -!- qt has quit [Server closed connection] 22:55 hack'em is way harder than evilhack imo 23:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5354 (0:52:05) 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible tinklebear's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:5730 (0:55:38) 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible tinklebear's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:5826 (0:56:04) 23:17 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 23:33 bouquet how so? 23:36 i played it during junethack, there's no way. several things from evilhack that make evilhack as difficult as it is was either changed or reverted in hack'em. next version even moreso 23:39 moldiers and dragons come to mind in particular 23:42 i dont buy that. it would take more than a couple monster types to dethrone evilhack as the hardest variant :) 23:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed tinklebear's ghost, the former Gallant, on T:6233 (0:57:45) 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed tinklebear's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:6349 (0:58:37) 23:46 oh I was just citing stuff that makes it hard 23:46 I don't think I'd call it harder than Evil, least not yet 23:50 -!- Dingotron2 has joined #evilhack 23:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:8222 (1:09:59) 23:57 oh christ, speaking of 23:57 Aphrodite's gonna have all those new n and shit