00:47 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1654 (0:13:46) 00:48 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1702 (0:14:48) 00:48 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 1338 points, T:1737, killed by a piranha 00:50 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 01:03 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:09 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:20 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 02:36 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 03:17 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:47 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 04:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 04:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cloth sling on an altar, on T:5357 (2:03:40) 04:12 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 04:12 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 dragonbane", on T:5682 (2:08:12) 04:13 Smokey healing. :( Got a wish :/ 04:20 why so sad? 04:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1760 (0:10:41) 04:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1849 (0:11:45) 04:59 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6175 (2:54:38) 05:02 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 05:02 mobileuser: I only drink healing in times of dire need. 05:02 Luckily, I survived that round. 05:02 ah ok. phew! 05:03 Man, I can't stop thinking about D&D. 05:12 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:23 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 05:26 OOh, interesting, we have additional armour slots! 05:28 additional armour slots? 05:29 Yeah, I've found a bracer and I'm able to wear it. 05:34 but a bracer is just a shield? 05:37 OOh, lets find out. Maybe it's considered a shield in the game. 05:38 It's not really a shield, though - it's basically an arm band. 05:41 Yes, it's considered a shield. 05:41 Still, bracers are good for monks. 06:36 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:18 -!- UnFortuneCookie has joined #evilhack 07:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 484 points, T:1455, killed by Mr. Gomel; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 07:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 07:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 7860 points, T:5421, killed by a piranha 07:47 morning, how goes the evilhack games? 07:50 mine is a slog :-( only got two days before i'm off to barcelona and i'm not sure i have the will to finish it 07:50 a really weird heavily resource-starved game 07:50 -!- malor has joined #evilhack 07:51 i hear ya 07:52 my current xnh game, food had been pretty scarce until i made it to soko 07:52 i'm learning that i think i like orcs least of all the races 07:53 i think if i get to my last demon lord with no chromatic scales i'll forge the armor of throwing away your best weapon, tho 07:53 so i can say i did it 07:54 hah 07:54 i admit it does seem lackluster for the pinnacle of forging 07:55 given how many other potential sources of damage reduction there are, and what you give up for it 07:55 and how much ac you can get 07:56 i'm open to suggestions. been kinda thinking the same thing 07:56 i didnt want to make it too OP tho 07:56 i did have thoughts! here were two: 07:57 no damage reduction, but a cap on how much damage you can take in an event (i.e. max(10,5%maxhp) 07:57 hmm 07:57 the other was, also give unchanging 07:58 although my preference would be this: burn off the light fingers of @npcs who try to steal your shit! 07:58 annihilate those thieving bastard's grubby paws 07:58 lol 08:00 ugh i should stop procrastinating and go see how wrecked i get taking on kathryn without the crutch of scrolls of fire 08:00 or that silly acid resistancce 08:02 you have ashmar right? 08:03 i do 08:03 but i give up a ton of dps for it, and it is mithril, and i'm an orc 08:03 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 08:03 i'll pop it on if i'm getting wasted 08:04 although i just stumbled into a 3 high level npcs on my way so i may have other options shortly 08:06 ashmar gives extrinsic acid res 08:06 (so does the AoR) 08:06 yeah 08:07 the question is, is acid resistance worth taking twice as much time to kill her? 08:07 it is soa/angelslayer vs angelslayer/ashmar 08:08 i'm also assuming as an orc that mithril ashmar prevents me from recovery? 08:08 or do the gloves save me? 08:09 gloves save you I believe 08:09 lame! 08:09 nice? 08:11 it burns your skin equipping it 08:11 but that is it 08:11 must be some transient skin 08:11 gotta try to stop licking everything while equipping 08:13 why not soa/ashmar? 08:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:81479 (1 day, 2:51:09) 08:15 it feels rude to try to disintegrate kathryn 08:17 heh 08:17 plus angelslayer makes a lot of sense 08:17 given she's vulnerable to fire 08:18 angelslayer is such a good weapon 08:18 so so good 08:18 you know so many weapons in evilhack are just so satisfying that it makes me feel REALLY bad about werebane 08:19 it doesnt even get forged into anything decent 08:19 i think werebane is a prime candidate for glomming it on to another item slot, like was done with dragonbane 08:19 which would make it a lot of fun in early/mid game at least 08:19 the AoR was supposed to be my last forged artifact though 08:20 like if it was more gloves, or a ring 08:20 having said that, i'm always open to more sugegstions 08:20 actually werebane as an artifact ring would be decent 08:20 *suggestions 08:21 -- werebane as an artifact ring of protection from shape changers; also lets you cause double damage or sometimes instapoof like with sunsword 08:21 people might even be excited about it and carry it for weredemons 08:23 that's a neat idea, forging an artifact ring 08:24 that would be cool as well, but my simplest suggestion for what i think of as the "werebane issue" is to just make werebane a ring instead of a saber 08:27 ooooh 08:28 that might make archeologists upset. being gifted werebane via altar sac is actually pretty good for them 08:29 isn't werebane a disappointment when you could get grayswandir? 08:29 sure, but at least it is a silver saber 08:30 ^ this 08:30 nevertheless, given how many other good sac gifts for archs there are, including the brands, not sure it matters 08:30 can still fight with it and train up saber skill 08:30 plus its silver 08:30 and don't forget: it's silver 08:30 werebane gets shit on but its a better weapon that a lot of players realize 08:31 i mean, silver sabers are good, and werebane is a silver saber plus a ring of protection from shape changers, which is itself a decent item. so it is not hot garbage like the mitre :-) 08:31 love having werebane with weredemons around 08:31 but it is still i think the least exciting remaining artifact weapon 08:32 better than Cleaver O:3 08:32 ooh, invoke werebane over a werecorpse to raise it as a purified pet human 08:33 slavery 08:33 bad krm26, bad! 08:33 * K2 gets the spray bottle 08:34 mmmmm an artifact spray bottle 08:35 now there were good people on both sides k2 08:35 hah 08:35 i'm sure you've all heard the news by now 08:35 his orangeness has been federally indicted 08:36 yup, waiting for the full analysis to come out on the serious trouble podcast 08:36 that'll occur during arraignment on tuesday 08:36 https://www.serioustrouble.show/p/sup?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email 08:36 full list of charges and details wont happen until tuesday 08:36 until then its all speculation 08:36 i highly recommend ken white as an explainer of federal prosecutions 08:37 if *any* of it has to do with violations of the espionage act, he's fucked 08:37 that's turn big rocks into little rocks kind of jail time 08:38 not if judges or juries decide "well, it would set a bad precedent to do this to a former president" 08:38 i also quite liked roberts trying to pretend that the current court is legitimate by upholding voting rights in alabama 08:38 yeah 08:38 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:38 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 08:38 will be interesting to see how this all plays out 08:38 a lot of our problems here actually go back to the pardon of nixon 08:38 there is quite a through-line 08:41 make no mistake, the next republican president (assuming they aren't trump) will pardon him for any and all offenses he's committed 08:42 federal crimes yes 08:42 if he's convicted in NY or GA, no such luck 08:42 pres cant pardon state crimes 08:43 which is why the stuff happening in GA is such a big deal 08:43 although even in the wettest of wet dreams trump isn't young enough to ever see the inside of a cell, irregardless of basically anything 08:43 i wouldnt be so sure 08:44 i mean yeah, if he does do jail time it'll be cush 08:44 but its still jail 08:44 place him in guantanamo :) 08:44 no, the judge can release him during appeal, and he will be in constant appeal 08:44 cbus my wife and I were actually discussing that spot last night 08:45 guantanamo actually makes sense - it'd be very difficult for his supporters to try and stage a breakout from there 08:45 desantis can visit him while he is being force fed 08:45 and he can be pardoned and still placed three 08:45 s/three/there 08:46 i suspect if he is convicted and does time, the public wont be told where exactly 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:82404 (1 day, 3:43:36) 09:05 THERE we go 09:05 thank you mr. pegasus for taking care of my friendly ogre problem 09:07 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 09:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:30 \o/ 09:33 man now set won't crown me grrrr 09:37 i can't believe i'm JUST NOW thinking of this, but can i camera magic eyes and beholders? 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:84290 (1 day, 4:34:36) 09:58 -!- Noisytoot has joined #evilhack 10:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Set, on T:85222 (1 day, 4:56:57) 10:19 thar she blows 10:19 -!- terrapin has joined #evilhack 10:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +3 oilskin fireproof cloth elven helm", on T:85236 (1 day, 4:59:20) 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:85783 (1 day, 5:11:29) 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:85794 (1 day, 5:11:49) 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 1006 points, T:1852, killed by the Goblin King 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 702 points, T:976, killed by a bolt of cold 11:11 K2 you might want https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/1057 for EvilHack regardless of whether the devteam uses it for vanilla, since it's cool to destroy altars 11:12 extra bonus point if atheist 11:13 actually I bet EvilHack doesn't have that CAN_OVERWRITE_TERRAIN macro but you could just uses "(lev->typ == STAIRS || lev->typ == LADDER)" instead 11:19 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 760 points, T:1848, killed by a wererat 11:20 qt thanks 11:21 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 11:23 IDK if devteam will use that since I reported it by email last year and they didn't do anything, so maybe they decided it's better if altars can't be destroyed at all 11:24 but it seems pretty clear to me that it was actually a mistake/unintended side-effect 11:24 to begin with anyway 11:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:29 maybe they need a reminder 11:29 oh i see you asked already 11:32 asked what? 11:32 I am reminding them (and also making it easier to solve) by opening that PR 11:33 I was reminded of it in turn by this person saying it was a great change that altars can't be destroyed by digging https://nhqdb.alt.org/?4158 11:38 I don't know what version would let a monster destroy an altar just by zapping digging on it though 11:39 it looks like the prevention for that (muse.c:807 in vanilla) predates git 11:39 so that's confusing 11:39 (referring to that nhqdb quote) 11:42 yeah 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:88067 (1 day, 6:47:42) 12:16 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 12:25 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 12:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:88648 (1 day, 7:13:48) 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:89609 (1 day, 7:33:27) 13:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:90299 (1 day, 7:50:46) 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:90355 (1 day, 7:53:22) 13:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3340 (0:32:23) 13:25 -!- Graznop_ has joined #evilhack 13:25 -!- Graznop is now known as Guest6312 13:25 -!- Graznop_ is now known as Graznop 13:26 -!- Guest6312 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:90899 (1 day, 8:04:16) 13:28 -!- Graznop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:29 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 13:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4673 (0:42:57) 13:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5334 (0:55:58) 13:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:5561 (0:58:51) 14:26 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 14:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 15:10 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a spellbook of identify given to him by Anhur, on T:13437 (2:31:51) 15:24 hah awesome 15:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:15231 (2:48:37) 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fireproof master key of thievery", on T:92607 (1 day, 9:13:51) 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Mephistopheles, on T:92877 (1 day, 9:33:32) 16:37 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 16:59 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 17:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a leather alchemy smock entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:16912 (3:22:33) 17:41 krm26 you read the news lately? 17:47 krm26, the federal indictment was unsealed. 37 counts 17:47 one of his lawyers was also charged with a lot of the same 17:48 correction, associate 17:48 'In the federal indictment unsealed on Friday, former President Donald Trump faces a total of 37 counts, including 31 counts of willful retention of national defense information. In addition to the willful retention of national defense information charges, the former president is charged with one count each of conspiracy to obstruct justice, withholding a document or record, corruptly 17:48 concealing a document or record, concealing a document in a federal investigation, scheme to conceal and false statements and representations. Trump associate Walt Nauta is also charged in the indictment.' 17:49 skimming over some of the details... holy crap. talk about being caught red-handed 17:51 a lot of the documents in question were kept in a bathroom (???) that was openly accessible to anyone on the property 17:53 some light reading while on the toilet 17:53 https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/read-trump-indictment-document/index.html <--- indictment in full 17:54 only 49 pages 17:54 pdf - https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23839690/read-trump-indictment-related-to-mishandling-of-classified-documents.pdf 17:56 only 3 pages in and i'm going WTF 17:58 when i was in the military, I held a secret clearance - nothing like top secret or the levels above that. and I still had to jump through hoops to get that clearance, and it was drilled into us what we could and couldnt do, and what would happen if any violations occurred and (more importantly) what would happen if a mistake were made and you tried to cover it up and not notify proper channels 17:59 i've only read down to page 3 so far, and what i'm reading would have landed anyone else ina deep dark hole. you'd never see 'em again 17:59 gdamn 18:00 I wonder if he will try the defense of "as president, I don't actually have a clearance and am not obliged to learn the rules" 18:00 he cant use that anymore. in the indictment, there's more than one instance where he's recorded showing other people without a clearance some of these documents and stating they're classified 18:01 he was bragging 18:01 makes you wonder what he shared with whom while he was pres 18:02 well, the FBI and CIA had an idea already, they were scared to tell him about certain things 18:02 just... wowo 18:02 who keeps documents in a bathroom? 18:03 defendant 1 apparently 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a copper helm of brilliance entrusted to him by Anhur, on T:18328 (4:33:09) 18:26 Grouchy is getting some nice sac gifts 18:27 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:45 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 19:18 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:22 > Your extra attack is ineffective while wearing a dark elven bracer. 19:22 Dang it, seems even bracers aren't good for monks. 19:23 bracer => shield => no good 19:23 no way around it 19:24 Must remind myself: Nethack is not real life. 19:25 I keep forgetting. :D 19:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 43236 points, T:23334, killed by a ball of cold 19:59 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 20:11 yeah, bracer is an unfortunate name, should be buckler 20:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:18 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 20:23 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:9619 (5:20:35) 20:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:10908 (5:26:49) 20:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Tou Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by Kas), on T:43363 (21:52:47) 20:55 bracers take up the shield slot because, even though in real life you could wear both at the same time, the shield would negate the functionality of the one bracer 20:55 ad&d discusses this in the PHB (player handbook) 20:56 and now that I think about it, it should be a pair of bracers, not 'a bracer' 20:57 and technically, you couldnt wear gauntlets over bracers. but we'll let that lil bit of fact slide :) 21:30 K2: Very late but I was browsing Evil commits 21:30 * Medusa can no longer fly (no idea why anyone thought she could). 21:31 I think Gorgons were depicted with wings in ye old classical folklore? 21:31 Oh yep, "winged human females" 21:32 ah, she already has flight again, moot point 6_9 21:35 But I did also wanna ask about the odds of her not averting her eyes from a reflected gaze in time - 1 in 12 still? 21:51 1 in 12 with reflection, 1 in 25 if you apply a mirror at her 21:52 Bet 22:10 -!- cbus has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:10 -!- cbus has joined #evilhack