00:01 alright, step one: permanently convert to lawful. Step two, camp for the following: any long sword, fire brand, frost brand, grayswandir, dragonbane (you already have that), and ogresmasher 00:02 aha 00:03 what is ogresmasher for? 00:03 here's the reasoning behind this mess: fire brand+frost brand gets you the sword of annihilation, which is extremely good. 1d12 extra damage and around 10% chance of instadeath to anything that isn't disint-resistant. The long sword will unlock long sword skill to basic, which combined with the to-hit bonus from drow will make you more than capable 00:03 of hitting most things in the endgame. Grayswandir+dragonbane gets you gauntlets of purity; these are awesome. Death magic resistance, giant strength, faster spell power regen, and reflection. Plus protection from seduction attacks if you're lawful. 00:03 I'm getting to it :) 00:03 oh lol 00:03 my fault my fault 00:04 ogresmasher is invaluable for a drow, with their 16 max Con. It grants 25 Con when wielding. Drain yourself down with stormbringer, pay around 40000 zm to a priest in increments of 400 for max protection, and drink a blessed potion of restore ability while wielding ogresmasher. This has granted me upwards of ninety(!) max HP, plus the protection is 00:04 also really nice 00:05 boom there's my convoluted strategy 00:05 stormbringer is actually pretty badass, I just dual wield it with SoA 00:06 the permanent conversion to lawful is somewhat optional; I only do it because if you're chaotic and wearing the GoPur they'll fall off of your hands every once in a while, causing you to drop your weapons. I have gotten to right before planes without permanently converting, but it's kinda risky 00:06 sorry for wall of text I tried to be as concise as possible :) 00:06 wow thats an impressive strategy 00:06 im on board but 00:07 you can pick parts of it to skip out on, it's not all necessary; all told it usually takes around 90 mins to 2 hours to complete 00:07 cool 00:07 ive killed the minetown priest so the only one i can use is the valley of the dead 00:07 i think that would be kinda dangerous to be at level 1 at :P 00:07 it's fine that's my go-to location 00:07 just put scrolls of scare monster or boulders at the entryways 00:08 okay 00:08 this is so smart 00:09 so if i didnt want to permaconvert id still need opposite alignment? 00:09 yeah. I usually spend a wish on a HooA 00:09 makes it easier to convert 00:10 permaconverting is a surprisingly hard thing to do 00:10 yeah im racking my brains on how id do that 00:11 i dont think i have a lawful altar 00:11 though in theory 00:11 i could use hooa to convert an altar to lawful 00:11 then convert back 00:11 and then permanconvert LOL 00:11 yup 00:11 thats too gigabrain for me 00:11 it can take some finagling but it works 00:12 i dont usually subscribe to such shennanigans 00:12 if i do this im def going all in tho 00:12 hell yeah 00:12 if you do all that you'll be able to coast through most of gehennom 00:13 it would probably work more smoothly next time 00:13 heh 00:13 used wish on dragonbane 00:13 and i nurse danced + healing potioned to my current health 00:14 I also nurse dance, ogresmasher+restore ability should still be worth it, although it's the most optional of all the things 00:14 in evil healing potions are nerfed so diluted ones give a lot less max HP, I tend to save a stack of diluted full healing for lucifer 00:15 whats your method for killing lucifer? 00:15 I whack him with potions of paralysis, grab a stack of full healing potions and pray he gets disintegrated by SoA 00:15 @e?lucifer 00:15 Lucifer (&) | Lvl: 110 | Diff: 66 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire shock poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 99 | Gen: unique | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw wither, 8d8 cast fire, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 00:15 thats p straightforward 00:16 yeah 00:16 probably a safer way would be to boulder fort but I don't get any adrenaline from that 00:16 probably what i will try then 00:16 yeah i dont wanna lamo boulder if its possible without 00:16 tho most likely going to do that for what ever tier 3 i get 00:17 I have fought demogorgon+lucifer as con dro at the same time and won so it should be doable 00:17 oh wow 00:17 id be terrified 00:17 @e?demogorgon 00:17 Demogorgon (&) | Lvl: 106 | Diff: 57 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 95 | Gen: unique | AC: -8 | Atk: 8d6 cast spell, 2d4 sting level drain, 2d6 tentacle disease, 2d6 tentacle disease | Align: -20 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 00:18 I think that was the run I escaped the dungeon on 00:18 the tier 3s aren't so bad 00:18 i guess demogorgon would be not so awful with sickness resistance 00:18 or is that special cased 00:18 nah 00:18 he's still damn scary though :p 00:19 oh i bet 00:19 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:19 :) 00:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:20 tiamat is whatever, asmodeus is whatever, graz'zt is shit but with GoPur+being lawful he's less spooky, demogorgon is spooky but not so bad 00:20 i see graz'zt has weak mr 00:20 graz'zt's probably the most dangerous he's a real piece of work 00:20 i dont know if thats exploitable or not but 00:20 yeah I wonder if polying him would work 00:21 it was done to make him cancellable so you could actually fight him in melee without getting insta-fucked 00:21 his mr was lowered to give the player a shot on cancelling him 00:21 brb 00:21 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 00:22 so boulder fort into cancel into melee maybe 00:22 the other time i met him it was throw mjollnir for 3 hours 00:22 so in this version of evilhack, some monsters can break boulders 00:23 not demon bosses tho 00:23 because they dont actually move (they just tele jump everywhere) its weird, doesnt work for them 00:23 wait really? 00:23 si 00:23 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:24 did i just invent the thought in my head that all of them have a chance to break 00:24 hold on 00:24 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/commit/6eb8f12fd7ac8ca67f2f382d6626fd6073463d40 00:24 and there was a follow up to that commit i think 00:25 okay that makes me feel a lot better 00:26 i think i read one of your reddit comments and interpreted it all wrong 00:26 oh heh 00:26 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 00:27 oh one other question 00:27 well i guess loggers left so allow me to direct it at you k2 00:28 k 00:28 what are your feeling about using shadow dragon scaled armor vs not 00:28 because i kinda like having magic breathing 00:28 drain res plus ultravision as a non drow is pretty cool 00:29 and sleep res 00:29 but being able to swim and breathe underwater is cool too 00:29 tough choice 00:31 hmm what places in gehennom+ are lit/unlit? 00:31 if its a toss up im probably picking sea dragon 00:32 i used a wish on shirt of drain res already bc i didnt realize shadow dragon scales provide it :P 00:32 heh 00:32 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 00:33 use shadow scales they are so cool :( 00:34 i want to but like 00:34 how deal with anxiety of getting strangled 00:34 by what 00:34 cubes? 00:35 wait are those the only things that can do that 00:35 maybe i assumed dragon engulfing was the same mechanic 00:35 well, water elementals can, and sea dragons 00:35 it is 00:35 yeah 00:36 ok thats probably why 00:36 first 3 dragons i ran into were all sea dragons 00:36 ah 00:36 probably the second most dangerous dragon 00:36 okay thats easy decision then 00:37 well but see theres the other argument that im the shadow rider not the shadow ridden 00:37 so... 00:37 lol 00:37 so what you're saying is, you're a top 00:37 pfff 00:37 im just sayin it like it is :)) 00:37 hahaha 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4801 (0:23:12) 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 1038 points, T:5128, killed by a wererat 00:40 does changing gender count against polyself conduct? 00:41 Uhhhhhhhhhh 00:41 * Umbire checks 00:42 seems no? 00:42 K2 can you ocnfirm 00:42 confirm* even 00:42 cool 00:43 well the only way you can change gender is via polymorph 00:43 it's probably true, I think most of my games that show up as polyselfless changed gender at least once 00:43 no amulet of change 00:43 ah right 00:46 whoever left all these empty trapped boxes lying around, I hope you're doing okay in hell where you BELONG 00:46 must be the same joker that rigs tins to explode 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:3905 (0:07:46) 00:54 yusss 00:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3910 (0:07:57) 00:55 run's practically OVER now 00:55 :DD 00:55 back in business 00:56 shadowrider could I perhaps interest you in a 24 hour nap 00:56 :p 00:56 LOL 00:57 no way i finish by tomorrow 00:57 so go crazy 00:57 I'm quoting you on that 00:57 actually theres a way i finish by tomorrow 00:57 by dying 00:57 LOL 00:58 well if we're counting that I'll be done within the hour 00:59 :PP 01:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:00 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 01:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 01:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a mithril knife entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:7556 (0:22:49) 01:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Lolth, on T:7788 (0:23:41) 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:8717 (0:27:00) 01:33 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:11347 (0:40:21) 01:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 12888 points, T:12707, killed by a dark elven watch captain 01:39 oh fuckkk misclick 01:40 damn 01:40 well whatevs I'll get another run 01:49 :c 02:34 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:36 -!- stenno has joined #evilhack 02:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha), 222 points, T:615, killed by a gas spore's explosion 02:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 03:05 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05 -!- 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mistakes made 04:21 should be manageable with stormbringer but it's still a pain 04:22 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:67109 (11:22:48) 04:22 hah 04:22 hah nice start 04:23 ah has stormbringer been healing life this whole time 04:23 if so i never realized 04:23 yes 04:23 i was wondering how i was gaining health in valley 04:24 it's an under-appreciated mechanic but it's actually quite strong 04:24 ^ 04:24 it's what really makes stormy, the life-drain adds surprising longevity 04:25 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:67885 (11:26:19) 04:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1753 (0:36:28) 04:29 I wish drow would start wearing socks so I could wear metallic boots 04:29 okay whats the easiest way to do this 04:29 helm zeroes my alignent 04:29 alignment 04:30 I like to sit on altars 04:30 wait wyd 04:30 does that work if im cross aligned tho? 04:30 umbire shadow's trying to convert to lawful 04:30 umbire its very convoluted 04:30 no it doesn't 04:30 but im trying to permaconvert to lawful 04:31 o 04:31 yeah I usually have a second altar somewhere but if you don't you can use a unicorn 04:31 if you zero your alignment and kill a peaceful and sac it on the altar you want to convert to that could work also, I've done that 04:31 hmm 04:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16506 (0:59:34) 04:38 what if i kill my pet 04:38 would that do it lol 04:38 yeah that's pretty hefty 04:38 just make sure you're at zero alignment first 04:38 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful giant rat, on T:68169 (11:39:31) 04:39 why does my stethoscope not say 04:40 yeah, that is weird... 04:40 maybe you're completely neutral? 04:43 :(( 04:43 first try failed 04:44 yeah idk what to say I just fuck around until I convert I can't even remember how I did it most of the time 04:44 I can tell you I have converted using only an altar and a helm of opposite alignment, if it's any encouragement 04:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Con Hob Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible thelemur's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:2047 (0:30:42) 04:44 can't remember how the hell I did it but it happened 04:44 its okay ill brainstorm a bit more 04:45 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:68375 (11:45:49) 04:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:17876 (1:08:23) 04:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:17887 (1:08:31) 04:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:18036 (1:09:17) 04:48 pff, "You read: Let's face it: this time you're not going to win" 04:49 well, technically it said "_?t's face it:  this ?ime ?ou'r? not g?ing to w??.", but I can read between the lines on that one 04:49 lol tears 04:52 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Cha) permanently converted to lawful, on T:68708 (11:53:30) 04:52 yay 04:52 nice 04:53 the solution was casting healing at peaceful monsters 04:53 ah smart 04:57 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:69594 (11:58:09) 04:59 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:70355 (11:59:54) 04:59 damn back to back gifts 04:59 you only needed one, but that was still surprisingly quick 05:01 @e?beholder 05:01 beholder (e) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 3 | Res: cold shock poison petrification | Confer: poison | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -8 | Atk: 0d0 gaze slow, 2d25 gaze sleep, 0d0 gaze disintegrate, 0d0 gaze petrification, 4d4 gaze cancellation, 8d8 bite physical | Align: -10 | flies, breathless, mindless, nopoly, infravis 05:01 oh do not get behold'd this late 05:01 although if you do that would be a very nice bones :p 05:01 indeed it would 05:01 almost missed stoning message yikes 05:01 do you have any source of warning 05:02 i probably have a ring? 05:02 i trashed the quest artifact lol 05:02 as you should :) 05:02 the oracle's 8 ball has warning when carried, you should go steal it 05:03 otherwise it's more than likely you get beholder'd 05:03 they're always 5 on warning, never show up on telepathy 05:03 steal as in kill...? 05:03 lol 05:03 well if you train thievery skill you can probably just steal it 05:04 just thought that would be preferable to murder as lawful 05:04 yeah good thinking 05:04 i did not know thievery was a thing 05:04 it's been exclusively rogues for a while, convicts just got it a couple weeks ago 05:05 I think at skilled you should be able to steal from the oracle 05:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a leather helm of speed, on T:22099 (1:34:26) 05:11 oh nooooo 05:11 I accidentally got the wrong closet -_- 05:12 I was kinda banking on magic res... 05:13 but hey, at least it's a helm of speed AND poison resistance! real two-for-one deal 05:14 solid! 05:14 was able to steal with basic skill btw 05:15 oh cool 05:15 I don't know much about theft 05:15 it is what it sounds like 05:15 haven't really used it before 05:15 time for me to get a wish from this thing 05:16 THEM has the uh, #borrow command I think and basically anyone can try that 05:17 shadowrider38 I know you're joking but if you want to goblin town is where to do it 05:22 why goblin town specifically? 05:23 you can just sit in the little house in a boulder fort on a scroll of scare monster, since none of the monsters that spawn there phase or break boulders 05:23 adjust the 8 ball to 'a', hold down the a key and you're laughin 05:24 also since all the monsters that spawn are weak there's no worry of being overcome by a horde of monsters 05:24 heh i bet 05:30 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) had a dark elven bracer entrusted to her by Eilistraee, on T:73889 (12:31:28) 05:31 NOOOOO 05:32 i accidentally read a scroll of destroy armor 05:32 and destroyed my cloak of magic resistance 05:32 !!!! 05:32 noooo 05:32 have any extra wishes? 05:33 heh not really 05:33 i got 0:1 wand and made some redundant wishes 05:34 i have one left in wand and technically the ball but im not going to use it 05:34 "0:1 wand" sir that is four guaranteed wishes don't give me that not really crap 05:34 no i used them 05:34 ohhhh 05:34 thought you meant you had that now lol 05:34 might as well use the one left in the wand 05:36 i was gonna save it and see what i need after im done camping 05:36 i have extra cloaks of magic resistance its just not dragonhide 05:36 ah 05:36 yeah just save it then ya never know when something horrible will happen 05:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a dark elven dagger entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:24574 (2:00:26) 05:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] joes (Con Hob Fem Cha), 10650 points, T:5489, crunched in the head by an iron ball 05:40 -!- mobileuser has joined #evilhack 05:48 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:76179 (12:49:18) 05:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:26599 (2:17:31) 05:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26600 (2:17:34) 05:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) returned The Iron Ball of Liberation to Robert the Lifer, completing his quest, on T:26958 (2:20:10) 05:57 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) had a steel helm of brilliance entrusted to her by Eilistraee, on T:77244 (12:57:52) 06:01 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:78289 (13:02:31) 06:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:15 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) had a dark elven cloak entrusted to her by Eilistraee, on T:82734 (13:16:05) 06:15 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:15 im over this 06:15 as cool as the strategy is this is exactly how i hate playing 06:15 whenever i get back on ill just consolidate and move on lol 06:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:16 lol fair 06:16 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 06:16 good luck on your run! looking good 06:16 speedster 06:17 thanks! good luck to you as well 06:17 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:17 time to go die to medusa or the castle or something idk 06:18 should do what i do and wait until vlad's with a perfect ascendable character then walk into the chasm 06:19 you could try doing vlad after wizard again 06:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2045 (1:08:41) 06:21 man I hate getting to medusa with no way to cross the sea... 06:21 maybe I could duck into ice queen's realm and white scale my armor 06:21 actually, that's a great idea 06:24 Agree 06:24 Could dig it but then castle might be next floor 06:24 yeah I'm not a fan of that strat 06:24 it's fucked me over more than once 06:25 aye 06:25 much more dangerous outright too 06:25 especially in evil, since you'll have to come up in melee range of medusa 06:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:30843 (2:51:04) 06:29 shame, no dragons on first two levels 06:30 huh, none on the third either 06:30 guess I'm too low level? 06:31 oh, actually, I know the freeze sphere spell 06:31 that should get me across, even if it's a bit scuffed 06:36 I have totally used this to cross before 06:36 if nothing else it's incredibly funny 06:36 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 226 points, T:476, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:36 yeah lol 06:37 this is super frustrating but very funny 06:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:32496 (3:02:05) 06:40 loggers, you silly, you are a drow 06:40 ride a lizard across 06:40 I have no lizard :( 06:40 I probably couldve gotten one but... stormbringer 06:40 i mean, that is trivially fixable 06:41 weird, a white dragon has spawned but it is peaceful for some reason 06:41 Polytrapped 06:41 is my wager 06:41 I'd bet you're right 06:41 wait where are you 06:41 still on Medusa level? 06:41 damn the thing i really miss as a giant is no oilskin cloak 06:42 umbire yea 06:42 hmm 06:42 can polytraps even happen there 06:43 probably 06:43 suppose peaceful chaotic mon could also luck into poly pot 06:43 damn thing didn't drop scales :( 06:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:63213 (17:35:33) 06:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:33245 (3:08:43) 06:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:33255 (3:08:52) 06:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:33260 (3:08:59) 06:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:33291 (3:09:48) 06:48 finally across this damn pond 06:48 that had no right to be that annoying 06:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a touch of death), on T:33343 (3:10:43) 06:48 oh my god it's dead thank GOD 06:49 castle with no MR is fun 06:53 @e?vorpal jabberwock 06:53 vorpal jabberwock (J) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 50 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Atk: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw behead, 3d10 claw behead | Align: 0 | carnivore, flies, infravis 06:53 I just cannot catch a break today 06:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Loggers' ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:2808 (1:42:34) 06:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:33663 (3:18:03) 06:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:33666 (3:18:28) 06:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:33668 (3:18:40) 06:57 ...just discovered that I do not in fact know how to write charging 06:57 that was last run :p 07:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:33693 (3:22:02) 07:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonbane", on T:3084 (1:49:10) 07:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:33694 (3:22:35) 07:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide striped shirt of excellence named Sergio", on T:33699 (3:23:57) 07:03 why "of excellence" Loggers_VIII ? 07:03 couldn't think of anything else 07:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:33822 (3:25:42) 07:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:33823 (3:25:49) 07:03 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:33830 (3:25:55) 07:03 i kinda think spheres should be exempt from murder 07:03 they like blowing up 07:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:33838 (3:26:05) 07:04 got drain resistance sorted? 07:04 I'm gonna use shadow scales 07:04 plus wielding stormy 07:04 ESP? 07:04 meh 07:04 lol 07:05 if you can get it for free... 07:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:34035 (3:27:17) 07:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful freezing sphere, on T:34039 (3:27:22) 07:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Cha) permanently converted to lawful, on T:34184 (3:28:24) 07:06 thank you freezing spheres 07:06 you are the reason I didn't waste a wish on hooa 07:07 were all the freezing sphere murders intentional? 07:07 yeah I was using them to cross medusa 07:08 then I realized my alignment was shit and saw a great opportunity to convert 07:09 ah, so good thing then that spheres are not exempt from murder! 07:10 yep :) 07:10 nice tactic 07:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:65227 (17:59:36) 07:10 hmm 07:11 wonder if i should do tsurugi+ashmar 07:11 or hold out for tsurugi+soa 07:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had a steel knife entrusted to her by Eilistraee, on T:35116 (3:35:18) 07:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:65414 (18:02:41) 07:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:35260 (3:36:10) 07:16 would be nice if there was some sort of oprop that gave slow digestion 07:17 was gonna say white scales but that's vanilla 3.7 07:17 yeah 07:17 in hackem black dragon scaled armor gives slow digestion 07:18 as if people needed another reason to wear black scales :p 07:18 slow digestion might be my favorite thing in the game tbh 07:18 hunger is so annoying 07:18 like just let me play the video game goddamn why are you always starving loggers 07:18 mmm got ashmar but dont know that i can spare skill slots 07:18 only thing worse is not having a BoH ;-) 07:19 I would take a ring of slow digestion over a bag of holding... some days of the week 07:19 lol 07:19 krm26 what level are you? 07:21 17 07:21 endgame i'll have plenty of slots but this is where i want to sit for a long time and i think i want my shuriken skill 07:22 yeah that's smart 07:22 anyway I'm finally in a tentatively comfortable position in this game so I'm gonna take a nap later o/ 07:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:24 ashmar has all these cool bonuses but in the end i'm not sure they amount to much, especially for a giant sammy -- con25 already got, acid resist i get from dragonbane which i need to use because ashmar doesnt give reflection, hungerless regen giants have, got better mc from tsurugi, giants cant be knocked back, so it is half physical damage but giants have tons of hp and i give up dual wield 07:26 I'd probably get a lot out of it from my current valktaur ironically 07:26 giant sams in particular can get HPD from QA also 07:26 qa? 07:27 quest arti 07:27 Tsurugi gives HPD 07:27 tsurugi gives half damage too? i had no idea 07:27 so worser and worser 07:27 guess it is a 28aum high score item to put in my bag at least 07:27 ashmar and shield buffs give them a much bigger use case by far but barring people stuck in their habits I think giant sams have compelling enough reason as is to not use ashmar 07:28 HPD also does a lot for making Tsurugi actually usable 07:28 (to say nothing of giant two-weaponing) 07:30 i would never consider using the tsurugi without being a giant 07:31 would kinda like to be able to play with tempest 07:31 but all i really really want is grayswandir so i can purity-proof myself to graz'zz'z'z'zt 07:33 -!- Graznop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:34 -!- Graznop has joined #evilhack 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faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 (0:00:01) 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 49 points, T:49, killed by a fox 10:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5064 (2:30:34) 10:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 dragonbane", on T:41741 (18:56:00) 10:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a stone helmet entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:41904 (19:11:05) 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:42125 (19:19:59) 10:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:42161 (19:20:39) 11:03 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 11:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 8961 points, T:5638, killed by a rothe 11:14 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a dagger entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:71494 (19:51:40) 11:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1748 (0:08:43) 11:26 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Lolth, on T:47820 (19:18:28) 11:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:6448 (0:13:15) 11:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5507 points, T:4556, killed by a gnoll witherling, while praying 11:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 792 points, T:1041, diseased by a dwarf zombie, while praying 11:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) performed her first genocide (giant eels), on T:810 (0:02:45) 11:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Inf Ith Fem Una), 9374 points, T:11168, diseased by a drow zombie 11:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had Secespita bestowed upon her by Moloch, on T:1935 (0:07:54) 11:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2875 (0:13:53) 11:53 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) had an aklys entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:4182 (0:21:00) 12:07 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 72 points, T:263, killed by a falling object 12:43 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 12:47 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) performed her first genocide (black dragons), on T:37343 (3:50:04) 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) genocided gelatinous cubes, on T:37343 (3:50:27) 12:53 can crystal chests be polymorphic? 12:53 *polymorphed 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:37673 (3:55:21) 12:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) genocided green slimes, on T:38025 (3:57:37) 12:56 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:39234 (4:07:59) 13:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:39270 (4:10:13) 13:23 Loggers_VIII I vaguely recall K2 protecting them... 13:23 yeah checked the wiki they can't be polyd 13:25 nice 13:33 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:39 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1401 (0:28:19) 13:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:76136 (22:17:33) 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:76175 (22:18:08) 13:41 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:48522 (19:39:32) 13:42 thank god for vecna having a marker 13:42 lesson learned: don't wish for one with a 0:1 wishing wand 13:42 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 13:45 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:48524 (19:43:32) 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:48535 (19:47:25) 13:51 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1926 (0:39:50) 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) used a forge to create the Hammer of the Gods, on T:83807 (13:30:40) 13:54 huh i wonder how the sunsword effect interacts with shadow dragon scales 13:55 darkness sources override light sources 13:55 but you still get hurt wielding it I think 13:56 thanks, thats good to hear 14:12 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) had a pair of dark elven gloves entrusted to her by Eilistraee, on T:86547 (13:49:21) 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) had Dramborleg bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:89146 (13:57:10) 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6252 points, T:4991, poisoned by an orcish arrow 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:95798 (14:26:06) 14:51 lucky! 14:51 so glad for that 14:52 purity is nice 14:52 now would it be better for me to use this as a weapon or forge it 14:52 forge it 14:52 will do 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:96072 (14:32:29) 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:49004 (20:11:16) 15:01 wooop 15:04 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:06 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:49204 (20:19:01) 15:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:78903 (23:46:17) 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:79873 (1 day, 0:00:50) 15:27 -!- elenmirie has joined #evilhack 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:90813 (1 day, 11:45:24) 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:90814 (1 day, 11:45:37) 15:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:90824 (1 day, 11:47:33) 15:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:90846 (1 day, 11:51:17) 15:48 -!- loggers has joined #evilhack 15:48 Graznop I can’t watch your game currently but good luck! 15:48 -!- loggers has quit [Client Quit] 15:48 thanks! 15:50 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1445 (0:10:13) 15:58 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 15:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the dark elven high priest of Moloch, on T:91017 (1 day, 12:02:07) 15:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:91032 (1 day, 12:03:28) 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a balrog, on T:53323 (21:14:03) 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2273 (0:21:05) 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:53336 (21:15:22) 16:02 one-shot 16:03 i spent so much time preparing... 16:03 lmfao what weapon 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +3 dragonhide helm of speed", on T:2313 (0:22:59) 16:03 SoA 16:03 well there you go 16:03 I was dual-wielding with vorpal, too 16:03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiEV4nKj41Q 16:04 lol 16:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Lucifer, on T:91106 (1 day, 12:10:11) 16:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Purgatory, on T:91124 (1 day, 12:13:01) 16:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:91277 (1 day, 12:25:06) 16:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:91279 (1 day, 12:25:29) 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:54314 (21:37:19) 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:54315 (21:37:24) 16:25 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 16:25 !whereis graznop 16:25 Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] Graznop [evil]: (Cav Dwa Mal Law) T:91277 The Elemental Planes level: -1 (with Amulet) 16:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) genocided gray dragons, on T:42096 (4:31:30) 16:31 go Graznop go! 16:32 hmm, i thought veg food would tame woolly mammoths for giants? 16:33 You have to tame them another way, then veggy food counts as treats for them 16:33 they're the only eligible steed for giants 16:34 dammit 16:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:80541 (1 day, 0:15:36) 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) had a wooden scimitar entrusted to her by Odin, on T:54767 (21:50:39) 16:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:91512 (1 day, 12:43:42) 16:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:91513 (1 day, 12:43:57) 16:42 gg! 16:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 5739282 points, T:91543, ascended 16:43 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Graznop/evilhack/dumplog/1684418697.evil.html 16:43 congrats! 16:43 grats! 16:43 how did you like the hotg? 16:43 thanks :) 16:44 HotG is fun, didn't need boulder forts, just bash 'em (except Orcus) 16:44 GG! 16:46 -!- Tangles_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:52 \o/ 16:52 wooohooo congrats Graznop! 16:52 -!- Tangles has joined #evilhack 16:52 graznop, congrats! 16:52 Why can't giants ride dragons? Dragons are gigantic. 16:53 graznop beating our asses with the amount of 0.8.2 ascensions he's getting :p 16:53 thanks all! Now did someone mention it was June? 16:53 noisytoot raises a good point 16:53 giants are fussy---woolly fur is much more comfortable to sit on than scratchy scales 16:54 that's why saddles exist! 16:54 giants' butts are too big to fully fit 16:54 heh 16:55 can't even think of a pedantic counter to that 16:55 dragons fly. hard to fly with a giant on your back 16:55 damn he thinks of everythin 16:55 *everything 16:56 technically giants shouldnt be able to ride anything, but seeing ice giants ride woolly mammoths in game of thrones inspired me 16:57 @e?kathryn the ice queen 16:57 Kathryn the Ice Queen (@) | Lvl: 32 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 15 | Res: cold sleep petrification drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 80 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 3d4 weapon physical, 8d8 touch cold, 3d8 cast clerical, 3d8 cast spell | Align: -128 | omnivore, flies, regen, seeinvis, nopoly 16:57 aw petrification res 16:57 although I guess she could cast stone to flesh anyway 16:58 yeah no cheese for you buddy 16:59 I mean, with 252 HP and -38 AC I could probably kill her but mehhhhhh 16:59 doing it with just stormy sucks 17:01 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 17:04 yay valley wraiths got me to level 30 :) 17:04 258 HP is very comfortable 17:04 nooo loggers, getting to level 30 at the valley is a trap 17:05 no it's not I do it every run it works out fine 17:05 just have to deal with some shithead @s 17:05 the level 30 @npcs are coming for you 17:05 let them come 17:05 who the hell do they think I am 17:06 how does this stuff always happen 17:06 what 17:06 somehow lost +5 crystal plate 17:06 :( 17:07 :c 17:08 id check the ttyrec but too lazy 17:09 oh well 17:09 an easy to find and very nice piece of armor for drow is the dark elven tunic 17:09 that or chain mail 17:09 the chain mail should be same AC as crystal plate with racial bonuses considered, and same MC 17:10 yeah i might switch to elven tunic 17:10 benefit of the tunic is that it's only 10 aum 17:10 yeah silk is liiiiight 17:10 it's a good choice, I usually rock a tunic unless I get a lucky crystal plate 17:10 plus, you can enchant it to +7 17:11 ooh that is a nice perk 17:11 so with that considered it's only 1 less AC than +5 crystal plate, same MC and only weighs 10 aum 17:11 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:11 however, CPM does have some other advantages 17:11 but as a drow a tunic will work nicely 17:11 yeah, can't be deteriorated, won't inhibit spellcasting 17:12 yeah hopefully the armor turns up somewhere lol 17:12 cuz idk how else it would have disappeared... 17:17 yes finally got a ring of slow digestion! 17:25 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:56070 (22:38:28) 17:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:48044 (5:23:29) 17:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:48677 (5:25:27) 17:38 what 17:38 wha 17:38 moloch priest got angry at me all of a sudden 17:38 what'd you do 17:39 i was donating for clairvoyance 17:39 and then he was like i want nothing to do with you 17:39 weird 17:40 Conflict? 17:40 Artifact hate? 17:40 "hey wait a minute... you're one of those moloch-haters!" 17:41 I've had that happen when something scares the priest for some reason 17:41 interesting 17:42 Oh yeah you do not talk to a scared priest if you can manage it 17:42 problem is actually intuiting if you've spooked them 17:42 huh did not know that 17:43 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:43 one time I got killed by a priest cuz I had bad breath from a fountain 17:43 or maybe they just wouldn't talk to me? it's a bit fuzzy in my memory 17:43 Bad breath causes monsters to flee 17:44 fleeing priest would be one of those cases where talking to them - anger 17:44 =* 17:44 hah 17:44 killed for bad breath; that priest was really a hero now that I think about it 17:45 I remember one time my pseudodragon put the mine town priest to sleep and I tried to chat them awake so they wouldn't get killed, and they got super pissed 17:45 priests are wacky 17:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:50267 (5:35:30) 17:46 angelslayer is actually pretty badass 17:46 thinking about using it on astral 17:47 is this news?! :D 17:47 alright I know I know you guys all knew it was good already 17:47 I just remembered the half spell damage 17:47 if I don't get eye of vecna I will definitely be using it on astral 17:48 I've gotten hand the last three times so statistically speaking I should get eye 17:48 right? that's how statistics work 17:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:50662 (5:38:08) 17:49 rapid fire useless gifts, jeez 18:01 -!- elron has joined #evilhack 18:05 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:05 wihispers: that is not how statistics work 18:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:16 -!- Umbire has joined #evilhack 18:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:54 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:02 lawfuls get penalized for using sword of kas against vecna, right? 19:02 Poisoned weapon so yes 19:02 buttttt vecna cantttt be poisoneedddddd k2 whinnnneee 19:03 same as any other poisoned weapon regardless of effectiveness 19:03 buttttttt veccnnaaaaaa 19:07 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 19:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:51784 (5:44:23) 19:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:52086 (5:47:16) 19:14 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:57276 (23:27:21) 19:14 vecna doesn't have any biological functions to poison 19:14 is he going to go "ow my bones sting a bit" 19:15 he's happy to ham it up if it causes his enemies to lose alignment points 19:15 the penalty is for using poisoned weapons to begin with, rather than if you actually poison whatever you hit 19:15 EPI: liches all appear as skeletons (Z) until you see them actually use magic 19:15 lmao 19:16 this includes vecna 19:16 also Kas sword is 3x against him I'd imagine it stings a bit 19:16 vecna's got like a little crown he'd be able to be differentiated 19:17 like xykon! 19:17 remind me why (probably in D&D) vecna keeps the most effective weapon against him in the hands of his trusted servant who he most absolutely trusts not to turn on him, and who he doesn't keep a personal eye on 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:52997 (5:54:01) 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3596 (0:51:32) 19:18 I thought kas made the sword to kill vecna with 19:18 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Vecna#Origin 19:19 answers all that and more :3 19:19 huh 19:19 they had a proper anime fight it seems 19:20 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Kas#Origin 19:20 Loggers_VIII: top ten anime betrayals for sure 19:20 lol 19:20 I guess in nethack you just come in and fuck everything up before anyone's careful betrayals can happen 19:21 not unlike the role of Walter White in the overarching breaking bad+better call saul storyline :B 19:21 -!- elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:22 @e?ki-rin 19:22 ki-rin (A) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 18 | Res: cold sleep shock poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 90 | Gen: dungeons | AC: -5 | Atk: 2d4 kick physical, 2d4 kick physical, 3d6 butt physical, 2d6 cast spell | Align: 15 | flies, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 19:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:55196 (6:03:32) 19:31 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 19:32 there's also the nonzero chance the betrayal was interrupted before Kas actually put it into action 19:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:56759 (6:09:48) 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:83837 (1 day, 2:18:47) 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Dramborleg bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:58310 (6:14:32) 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:61333 (6:24:56) 19:52 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 19:52 one more to go 19:55 dang you got that whole thing down 19:56 @e?geryon 19:56 Geryon (&) | Lvl: 72 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: unique | AC: -3 | Atk: 4d6 weapon physical, 4d6 claw physical, 2d8 sting drain str, 4d6 cast clerical | Align: 15 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, stalker, covetous, silverhate, infravis 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) killed Geryon, on T:98913 (15:26:11) 19:57 shadowrider38 what weapons are you using? 19:57 can start on that page next I figure 19:58 hammer of the gods + frost brand 19:58 i think its probably good enough 19:58 hammer of the gods as drow??? 19:58 you won't be able to hit ANYTHING late game man 19:59 you're TH is locked at 15 with that thing 19:59 *your 19:59 glowing weapons = baaaadddd 19:59 even if the light is overridden by the darkness visually, you still get HP regen penalty and TH penalty 20:00 cursed magic lamp or shadow scales would override? 20:00 it overrides the actual aura of light, but you still get the penalties 20:00 oh 20:00 into the bag of holding it goes 20:00 lol i guess that would be not so good 20:01 yeah... for reference, even with 40+ to-hit I still struggle to hit rodney and other dangerous monsters lategame 20:02 I would also recommend doing vecna before the rest of gehennom so you can get rid of alhoons 20:02 yeah 20:02 this reminding me why i hate them 20:02 they suuuck 20:03 they barely suck 20:03 not like master mind flayers 20:03 lol 20:03 resistant to like everything 20:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a gnome noble corpse, on T:5187 (3:02:56) 20:04 with an oilskin hat they're not a big threat 20:04 just annoying 20:05 yeah but who wants to burn a wish on a hat when you could burn a wish on a marker, permanently get rid of them and also have a marker 20:05 wiztesting suggests you don't get TH penalties from lit weapons if you have a darkness source 20:05 TH might be locked at 15 by being unskilled? 20:06 that seems wrong 20:06 let me test with sunsword real quick 20:07 no he's right! 20:07 ...now I wish I'd been using hotg this whole damn time 20:08 hah okay great 20:08 i did not want to go altar farm again 20:08 why didn't you use it when you forged it for the first time? 20:08 this raises the question of why don't you enhance it to basic skill already shadow :p 20:08 also chromatic dragon scaled armor, glowing like f**k, cursed magic lamp gives you in-dark to-hit :) 20:09 LOL 20:09 i did enhance it 20:09 then i ran into an alhoon 20:09 as you might have seen 20:09 so bad timing i guess 20:09 ahhh I see 20:11 May 06 22:15:10 damn and it isn't even overridden by shadow scales 20:11 so has this changed? 20:11 no 20:11 at that point I didn't know that the darkness TH bonus didn't apply to weapons you were unskilled in, I just assumed the light lowered my TH 20:12 but getting to basic skill will allow you to get the bonus 20:12 although I feel like the hotg' light shouldn't be overridden by something like shadow scales or a cursed magic lamp... since it's so powerful 20:14 I'd bet k2 will change that since if you can just override it with cursed ML/shadow scales it kind of defeats the purpose of the hotg not glowing dark for drow like the sota... but that's a conversation for another time 20:14 lol i think k2 was the on who suggested hotg to me 20:15 and after he made a big thing about why the hotg wouldn't cater to drow... you're on thin ice k2 :p 20:15 it's a top weapon, i've just used it for the first time 20:15 anyway, i've gotta go. good luck shadowrider! go kick some ass 20:15 as a drow no i didnt lol 20:15 hotg as a drow? pfft 20:16 so silly 20:16 nerf it into the ground 20:16 but after shadowrider wins :) 20:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:16 heh 20:16 I'm stuck in this game, it's going ot be interesting. I'm reverting to a meat-eating monk to survive. 20:16 plus its lawful 20:17 Also, someone showed me D&D, and now i'm obsessed. :( I might have to buy the starter kit. 20:18 lol k2 i think i was asking for strategies to kill lucifer in general and you might have mentioned it 20:18 so i was like why not go for it 20:18 bug found :) 20:19 oh 20:19 i forgot you were drow 20:19 make a tame archon and give them the hotg 20:20 arahael \o/ 20:21 K2: Yeah. Unfortunately, the "no friends" joke when people need to find a group is... Uh... 20:22 why would i give it to an archon while it continues to work awesomely for me :) 20:22 Lets just say I've found maybe 3 people in a city of 5 *million* who are possibly interested in the language I want to play it. :D 20:22 make sure to give it a ring of slow digestion too unless you want it to get eaten 20:22 shadowrider38 hahah 20:23 arahael oh wow, only 3? 20:23 there's gotta be more than that 20:23 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:99594 (15:52:31) 20:23 K2: The last census put Auslan users in my country down to 16k "who use it in the home". 20:24 Australia has a population of 26 million. 20:24 I can keep looking, but I am suspecting that the easy path is to just become a DM and start a group. 20:26 K2: regarding Graz'zt, does displacement fool him? 20:27 arahael: do you specifically want to use auslan with people in person, or do you just want to play d&d nonverbally? it can be played over text chat (irc, discord, whatever) 20:27 aosdict: Specifically Auslan. 20:27 I'm interested because someone in VR showed me a short game in VR-ASL, but I'd prefer IRL, and in Auslan. 20:29 your best chance is finding an auslan group and proselytizing them to start playing dnd 20:29 Yeah, that's what i'm thinking. Most of my friends are auslan users. 20:30 D&D can be done with as few as 2 people, apparently, so I might just see if I can get a starter kit and hope my wife is willing to play. 20:31 Umbire I suppose? I dunno 20:31 test it 20:32 what exactly is death magic resistance 20:32 i've played dnd since the dark ages, and i did playtesting for runequest, and i can tell ya that you really want 1 dm + 3 others 20:32 wand of death/death touch/wand of orcus/etc 20:32 you can play 1+1 or 1+2 but those are very different experiences 20:32 okay perfect 20:33 just kidding not perfeect 20:33 you also don't need to buy anything, there are plenty of free dnd-like rules around, the rules aren't the most important bit, the scenario/worldbuilding/campaign/dm is 20:33 summoned lolth 20:33 death resistance is a vanilla thing but also special cased 20:34 krm26: I'm thinking at the very least i need dice. 20:34 google "free osr rpgs" 20:34 you don't really need dice, not if you have a computer 20:34 not all rulesets even use dice although they are very common 20:34 also 20:35 K2: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Baphomet 20:35 what I have so far pending anyone contributing strats 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:100109 (16:04:31) 20:36 krm26: Intriguing, I've landed on https://www.tenkarstavern.com/p/f.html 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:100217 (16:06:41) 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:87033 (1 day, 3:19:22) 20:38 krm26: I'm thinking the quickest way though is to walk up to the local game store, ask for an intro setup, and then by that point I'll know enough to be able to make things up and utilise all these other resources. Remember, I barely have the opportunity to join an existing group and not finding online text-driven interactions that exciting. 20:39 krm26: And I'll probably start with just two people, mostly because uh, my wife is stuck with me and she can't leave... ;) 20:42 most people "of my generation" play now over zoom/etc because we're all remote from where we started playing with each other decades ago. not quite the same as face to face but actually easier to engineer and dramatically increases your pool of potential players 20:45 krm26: Yeah, what do you do about maps, though, though I guess you could just have the DM provide that as needed and move the camera to it where needed. But I think to begin with I prefer in-person. If I knew of auslan players that were more than say, an hour away, I'd consider zoom. 20:49 Umbire looks good 20:50 K2: now about Kas, on the note of all that earlier stuff 20:50 some people like to play with maps and miniatures and etc. but they aren't mandatory either -- lotta different styles of play 20:50 https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/0.8.1/src/makemon.c#L2197 20:50 this generates him with his (cursed) artifact and all the listed armor, correct? 20:51 so what does the hive mind suggest for giant sammy vs vecna: tsurigi/kas or tsurugi/excalibur (or i guess kas/excalibur) 20:52 krm26: Yeah, the game I played (that's getting me into D&D), was just a map, which turned out to be used only to set the scene, and the rest of it was 3D drawing with VR-ASL. 20:53 krm26: But... I was the only deaf, fluent in Auslan. The other two were better at VR-ASL but had never done a signed game. It was very funny. :D 20:56 feelin' tsurugi/Kas 20:56 Umbire yeah 20:57 2201 specifies what then, enchantment range or something similar?> 20:57 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:101608 (16:26:14) 20:57 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:101609 (16:26:17) 20:59 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) genocided black dragons, on T:101652 (16:27:44) 20:59 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:00 grr i hate being unable to uncurse 2h weapons with basic spellcasting 21:02 I'm still trying to recover my godforsaken sack that I threw into water. 21:02 i've never tried -- can a giant have a hand free for uncursing a 2h weapon with basic spellcasting? 21:02 It's full of potions and scrolls and crap. They'll certainly be all soaked. 21:02 I think so, because giants can wield two-handed weapons in one hand 21:02 so there are no two-handed weapons for giants 21:21 second time I've seen this: "You are aware of the presence of Andies because of Vorpal Blade." 21:22 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 21:27 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:59710 (1 day, 1:13:38) 21:28 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:59717 (1 day, 1:14:12) 21:28 go go terrapin! 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:59741 (1 day, 1:16:42) 21:31 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:59745 (1 day, 1:17:28) 21:31 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:59745 (1 day, 1:17:36) 21:35 Doesn't look like Hack'EM changes anything about Baphomet stat wise 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the giant high priestess of Moloch, on T:59904 (1 day, 1:24:34) 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:59909 (1 day, 1:24:46) 21:38 \o/ 21:39 gogogo 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Lucifer, on T:59966 (1 day, 1:29:10) 21:44 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) entered Purgatory, on T:59987 (1 day, 1:30:11) 21:45 "Larog the invisible Malefica drinks a potion of gain level!" 21:45 "Larog the invisible Malefica rises up, through the rock cavern!" 21:51 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Saint Michael, on T:60117 (1 day, 1:37:29) 21:51 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:103582 (16:56:49) 21:54 heh 22:10 -!- Graznop has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:104475 (17:20:08) 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Con Dro Fem Law) genocided alhoons, on T:104478 (17:20:29) 22:18 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:60880 (1 day, 2:02:46) 22:24 wooo go terrapin go 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:61141 (1 day, 2:21:54) 22:37 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the Black Horse, on T:61142 (1 day, 2:22:03) 22:40 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:61196 (1 day, 2:25:20) 22:40 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:61196 (1 day, 2:25:21) 22:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:61235 (1 day, 2:26:41) 22:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:61247 (1 day, 2:27:07) 22:43 lol forgot I was neutral for a sec 22:44 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Val Cen Fem Neu), 6430258 points, T:61277, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/terrapin/evilhack/dumplog/1685577647.evil.html 22:44 gg 22:44 gratz!! 22:45 wow congrats! 22:45 thanks folks! 22:47 pretty interesting run even if it was EZ centaur mode, if only because I had to deal with my various screw-ups 22:48 I managed to find my level-ported shadow dragon and take them all the way to Astral! never brought a pet on the ascension run before 22:49 awesome 22:49 hey first evilhack asc for junethack 22:50 may it be the first of many! 22:50 \o/ 22:51 i'm about to enter the VotD in my gnollhack game 22:52 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:53 cool! 22:54 been mentally taking notes, need to actually write some stuff down here soon 22:54 some things i like 22:54 other things i do not like 22:56 I know absolutely nothing about gnollhack---what's its schtick? 22:56 https://github.com/hyvanmielenpelit/GnollHack/wiki 22:57 there was some controversy when they first came out on the scene. their main focus is mobile/tablet app (android/iphone), and they were going to charge $$$ for it 22:58 i dunno if the devteam had a lil chat with the gnollhack devs or what but they never wound up charging for it 22:58 ooh drama 22:58 there were also some sexist changes, like if you were a female your strength couldnt be as high or some shit 22:58 those were reverted 22:58 yikes 22:59 there's a ton of changes 22:59 -4 STR shit in current year, imagine 22:59 not quite as different as dnethack but its up there 23:00 there are some neat changes, but so far the overall impression i get is that the player can become extremely OP 23:00 always a danger with adding more stuff 23:01 i'm told it gets really tough in the endgame, but if you kit out the right way you can 1-2 shot just about everything 23:02 and then you get nudged by a boa constrictor and lose both your legs 23:02 anyways. there may be some changes to evilhack inspired by what i'm experiencing in gnollhack 23:02 we all saw that coming haha 23:02 heh 23:03 a - 6.2 lbs - the blessed +11 Tsurugi of Muramasa (weapon in hands) 23:03 ^ can go to +15 23:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:13009 (1:46:57) 23:24 [hdf-us] [evil] recuerdo (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 201 points, T:828, killed by a small mimic 23:36 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:14862 (2:00:23) 23:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible joes' ghost, the former Initiate, on T:15238 (2:04:20) 23:43 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #evilhack 23:43 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #evilhack 23:43 23:02 anyways. there may be some changes to evilhack inspired by what i'm experiencing in gnollhack 23:43 like what? 23:43 [hdf-us] [evil] recuerdo (Bar Trt Mal Neu), 271 points, T:1741, died of starvation, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:43 don't know much about gnoll 23:45 add more item slots plssss 23:46 fav part about gnoll 23:46 i dunno yet 23:46 the extra misc/armor slots is part of what makes the player OP 23:47 IF (big if) i were to add some, it wouldnt be like gnollhack 23:47 oooooh i just heard the new mouse trap catch a mouse 23:47 \o/ 23:47 \o/ 23:48 hooray 23:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Eilistraee, on T:63737 (6:47:31) 23:48 ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we are once again balling 23:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:63766 (6:48:29) 23:49 dammit false alarm 23:49 aw :( 23:49 Hm? 23:49 i think it got on top but didnt take the bait 23:49 LOL 23:49 so sad 23:50 Aw 23:50 i set up one of those 5 gallon bucket jobs 23:50 the lid has a trap door, they fall in 23:50 cant get back out 23:50 (this is all in the basement) 23:51 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Fem Law) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:64207 (6:50:09) 23:57 can i used cursed invis potion from stairs on the uniques? 23:57 yes 23:57 not lucifer, not vecna 23:57 everyone else it should work 23:57 got it thanks 23:57 i have exactly one invis potion 23:58 perfect, one for the last demon boss 23:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed thelemur's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:8941 (2:36:05) 23:59 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Nightsorrow's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:8950 (2:36:17)